h1-discussion

[fiery zealot]

ok so dionysus or aphrodite

[potent falcon]

Either

Choose one

[gray apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?size=96

[fiery zealot]

which is better for spear

[potent falcon]

EITHER

BOTH ARE GOOD

[fiery zealot]

OK

IM GOING WITH

[raw herald]

It’s too broad of a question to ask

Depends on what you already have

[thin bramble]

^

[fiery zealot]

cough

i have

tidal dash

ill just pick aphrodite f this

[potent falcon]

Ye

[fiery zealot]

so do i go

crush shot
dying lament
life afirmation

[potent falcon]

ANY OF THEM

[fiery zealot]

r-really

[gray apex]

lmao this is great

[twin thistle]

[potent falcon]

Yes really they are all fine options

[fiery zealot]

is the icon with the exclamation mark good

ive never been there

[twin thistle]

why dont you see what it is then

[potent falcon]

Yes

Observer

[fiery zealot]

because maybe its poop

[thin bramble]

[potent falcon]

It could be! But you gotta play the game to see

[fiery zealot]

did i just find

the emote

you guys are sending all over again

[gray apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766637757726722/835126879341772810/bouldypet.gif

[astral walrus]

life affirmation would be the best option for you actually, knowing you can't keep yourself alive for too long

[twin thistle]

probably to the bouldy part

[fiery zealot]

bruh

totally didnt pick cast

[oak gull]

You have a higher chance of getting gods you already have.

AFAIK.

So you can just roll for it again later.

[fiery zealot]

ok so i have aphrodite and poseidon i can get athena should i?

for that gamer build you said

[astral walrus]

he most likely cannot

rolls are one of the last mirror perks

i'm sure he didn't get there yet

[twin thistle]

by roll again doesnt mean use a fated persuasion

[fiery zealot]

SHOULD I BUY ATHENE BOON OR NOT

[twin thistle]

just have rng 'roll' him a life affirmation

[oak gull]

Well, depends on what you want. Flat damage on the spear is good, but if you want to nope away projectiles, athena is fine.

[twin thistle]

dunno

[oak gull]

Maybe.

[fiery zealot]

i want to kill the final boss

[gray apex]

What chamber is this

[thin bramble]

[gray apex]

It's 12 isnt it

[potent falcon]

OH MY GOD DUDE JUST CHOOSE YOURSELF

[astral walrus]

oh, sorry

[twin thistle]

maybe just midshop

[gray apex]

Oh

[oak gull]

I don't mind. It is RNG every time you pick up a boon and that's what I meant, but re-rolling is indeed a late mirror thing.

[fiery zealot]

ok ill put it this way

[verbal estuary]

Hello, everyone! I did not until now know that Supergiant had a Discord server. Happy to be here.

[potent falcon]

Ye

[fiery zealot]

is it more likely for me to win if i buy athena boon or not

[fiery zealot]

hello

[astral walrus]

yeah, welcome aboard

[gray apex]

Such decisions wont be the reason you win or lose at this point

[potent falcon]

Nobody knows

[fiery zealot]

:(

[brisk trail]

Well I mean

[astral walrus]

ahahah

what the hell man

[brisk trail]

Every boon makes you more likely to win

[oak gull]

Hello there.

[astral walrus]

are you joking

[twin thistle]

how far even have you gone so far

[fiery zealot]

i am just new man

exploring the game and all

[oak gull]

But some boons make you more likely to win than others.

[brisk trail]

This ^^

[astral walrus]

so explore, don't ask stupid questions, please

[gray apex]

You could pick up boons that dilute your pomming pool or duo pool making it less likely to get what you're actually aiming for and instead getting side stuff that doesnt matter too much

[potent falcon]

For that you really have to stop asking about and actually explore yourself man I'm gonna keep saying that.

[oak gull]

@fiery zealot I think you'll just need to do some runs and test things. What you are comfortable with, what you like and what works out for you.

[fiery zealot]

ive done runs but i always feel like im missing out i just like the sword and spear and pick what i think is best

[twin thistle]

dont ask for every decision then

ask for a general build

[fiery zealot]

i asked for a build

[verbal estuary]

Thanks for the welcome. I'm actually doing a lot of research on the reception of Classics (Ancient Greece and Rome) in modern entertainment right now, with Hades as my primary focus.

[potent falcon]

And ppl gave you one

[fiery zealot]

did they tho?

they said poseidon

[brisk trail]

Awesome stuff!

[potent falcon]

oh you would want Hades story discussion for that I think

[astral walrus]

they said ZAP

[fiery zealot]

f this off to youtube it is

[oak gull]

Zeus Attack, Ares Special, Poseidon Dash, add whatever you like the look of to it.

[fiery zealot]

ok

[verbal estuary]

@fiery zealot The best build to play is the one you have the most fun with.

Just play around with stuff until you find builds you like.

[lone kernel]

In the first few runs, it’s best to just yolo it and let the cards fall where they may, but yes, getting athena boons is almost always a good choice. Divine dash will literally double your survivability early on

[brisk trail]

+1 to this ^^

[lone kernel]

Starting every run divine dash is not a bad early game approach at all

[brisk trail]

Ah yes, divine dash, my favourite crutch

[verbal estuary]

Hell, I've got like 150 hours in Hades now and I still take Divine Dash a lot.

[gray apex]

It's fine but you kinda become dependent on it

Eventually you'll drop it

[verbal estuary]

For melee builds, anyway.

[potent falcon]

Yeah legit. Ik people here talk a lot about best and worst builds and weapons and boons but the object of a game is to have fun and if you're focused on completionism then It's not gonna be fun

[brisk trail]

The Hades player arc

[astral walrus]

i'm glad i don't anymore, with 250 hours

well unless it's merciful end

and i'm not playing high heat, so

[brisk trail]

ME my beloved

[astral walrus]

no reason for any more survivability than i already have

[brisk trail]

Been experimenting with hunters and pash dash a lot lately

[astral walrus]

also you don't need need divine dash with zeus shield merciful end

[potent falcon]

Yknow what's something I'm super disappointed by in this game tho?
Not enough Hypnos

[astral walrus]

i don't share your affection unfortunately

[brisk trail]

Try dying more. He has unique dialogue for every possible death

Including death by hazard bomb

[raw herald]

Divine dash is good

[potent falcon]

LMAO I shall attempt

[verbal estuary]

I've been half tempoted for a while now to just make a list of every enemy and have each one of them kill me so I can see more Hypnos dialogue.

*Tempted

[brisk trail]

Do, it's a blast

Hypnos is great

[astral walrus]

second best dash in the game

[brisk trail]

And the enemy hunting can be fun sometimes

[brisk trail]

Yes.

[potent falcon]

I die to like the same couple things a lot cause I have bad habits, so ig I ran dry on him for a while

Also gave him every single Nectar I found in the early game cause I thought he was the coolest

[astral walrus]

i killed myself in magma once right after battling giant gorgon head in asphodel, and he still said that gorgon killed me

[potent falcon]

Also very sad he is not a romance option. I heard they added Dusa as a romance option but idk. Still tho I wish the blue boy was an option as well lol

[twin thistle]

obviously they hypnotized you into standing on that lava

[astral walrus]

yeah i decided to do suicide cause i barely killed that skullcrusher, was disappointed in myself and the rng

and skullcrushers are pain in general with fo2

with slow weapons especially

[potent falcon]

The only times I really consider doing that is when I waste all my death defiances on Charon

[astral walrus]

like beo

calling beo slow, look at me

[twin thistle]

beo slow

[astral walrus]

well it is sometimes

[raw herald]

Dash and slide

[astral walrus]

It is!

[raw herald]

It may be clunky but it is anything but slow

[astral walrus]

it's not fast until you get mirage shot

[twin thistle]

nope

[potent falcon]

Idk why I fight him I really suck at his boss fight but every time I see it I'm just like "ooooo shiny moneez"

[astral walrus]

and with trippy flare it's even slower

[raw herald]

Charged shot or a few poms solves that

And fiery presence

[calm zenith]

Nah lots of ways to make it fast

You can point blank casts directly into groups

[astral walrus]

why fight him?

[potent falcon]

Is charon even worth the fight?

[calm zenith]

You can get fast rush

Charged rush

Sometimes

Best off in Elysium

[twin thistle]

charon is just a win more thing

[potent falcon]

Absolutely no clue. My brain just forces me to

[brisk trail]

Money, and further discounts

[twin thistle]

if you can beat him without losing too many death defiances youll probably already have no problem winning the run

[calm zenith]

Yeah

[thin bramble]

A test of strength I guess...

[calm zenith]

He is harder than the final boss kinda

[astral walrus]

it's not worth it unless you farming high tier resources

[potent falcon]

See that's my problem. I am really bad with his boss fight so I always lose my defiances

[astral walrus]

there's usually enough money

[potent falcon]

So ig I just shouldn't lol

[calm zenith]

Ok

[whole comet]

Well his pattern is easy to read

[calm zenith]

His fight is more of a mess the longer it goes on

Yeah

[brisk trail]

True, but it can help out if youre running low on cash and don't have cthonic coin purse

[calm zenith]

It just adds more stuff to dodge

[whole comet]

But u barely have chance to learn the fight

[calm zenith]

Dad is too. But his adds are messy

[whole comet]

So it could feel hard

[calm zenith]

So messy early

[brisk trail]

I just noticed ur nickname

[whole comet]

At least hades u can keep trying each run

[brisk trail]

I

What

[twin thistle]

most annoying part is how much stuff is on the screen at later charon phases

[astral walrus]

the problem is i think is you get to fight him before your build is ready

[calm zenith]

Charon also has a bunch of hp

[potent falcon]

The oar whack always gets me

Unless I have divine dash ofc lol

[twin thistle]

charon in tart is a pain. but in elysium you can melt him a lot easier though youll get less use of the discount

[calm zenith]

Yeaah

[brisk trail]

Athena dash doesn't really help for that melee attack

[calm zenith]

At least you get it and the gold for styx

[brisk trail]

Just learn the timing or get away very quickly when you see it coming

[calm zenith]

Lets you buy nice stuff and still keep good time

Buying the 420 Hermes is so nice

[brisk trail]

nice

[potent falcon]

OH hey here's a question. If they added dlc or something for a new story or campaign, who would you want as another playable character?

[brisk trail]

Cerberus

[calm zenith]

Gardening minigame as mom

[devout terrace]

Dusa

[calm zenith]

Yes

Destroy dust every pot in Hades as Dusa

[brisk trail]

So what kinda aspects we putting on the feather duster 👁️

[calm zenith]

Some bloons like upgrades

[potent falcon]

I enjoy this idea. Animal crossing with greek characters

[calm zenith]

Upgrade 1 is a feather duster where every feather is a smaller feather duster

2 has spikes and a skull

3 is divine

[potent falcon]

Imagine like growing poms of power to give to people lol

In all honesty I think they would probably use Meg

You could design some cool mechanics around the one-hit kill for Than but ehhhhh

YO imagine the final boss is Zag

[astral walrus]

zag with eris rail

i'd shat my pants

[potent falcon]

Rng, every boss fight he has a different weapon

[astral walrus]

that would be the hardest boss ever

you can't learn his patterns

that's actually something that was pointed out by Minos

[potent falcon]

Well ig you could if you fought him... five or so times lol

[astral walrus]

he said that he's so hard to beat because every time he uses a different weapon

[potent falcon]

Minos?

[astral walrus]

the bull

[potent falcon]

OHHHH

Asterius

[astral walrus]

that's right, why'd i call him minos

[potent falcon]

That's the king

Not Theseus tho

Different king

[astral walrus]

yeah, Minos was his master or something

of Asterius

[potent falcon]

OH it would also be really samey to play as Theseus but I can see him being a playable character

Like a different skin for Zag

[astral walrus]

and he would use both varatha and aegis?

nice

[potent falcon]

Dual wielding is his mechanic, you get two weapons but your dps is halved at base

[whole comet]

Or u could ride the chariot

[potent falcon]

That's his cast lol. Instead of throwing a bloodstone he sends a chariot after you

[calm zenith]

Hades mobile game as Thanatos

It's an idle rpg and you just one shot and collect souls

[potent falcon]

Honestly I would love any other kind of game in this universe I really like it lol

[calm zenith]

You use souls to make more complex attack patterns

[potent falcon]

What would the title be I wonder?

[stuck topaz]

Nyx

[calm zenith]

Thanatos: Child of Nyx

Fight Them Into Hell

[gray apex]

@twin thistle ngl I have no idea what mep is

[twin thistle]

[gray apex]

Your post in #h1-victory-boasting

[twin thistle]

idk

[signal aspen]

mep

[twin thistle]

i bet it means mep

[gray apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/798730231145168926/881175037250531358/884654.gif

[astral walrus]

are you using mods?

if yes, which ones, what do they do, etc?

[gray apex]

I just use the official modpack

[twin thistle]

moi? ze speedrun modpack, basically makes the first boon and hammer guaranteed and guarantees two sacks

[gray apex]

and removes some minibosses

all configurable

[twin thistle]

pretty much just improves run consistency

[gray apex]

guaranteed sub10

[raw herald]

Pretty much

[gray apex]

even on 50 heat

[raw herald]

[astral walrus]

where do you get it?

[raw herald]

Speedrun.com

[twin thistle]

or the speedrun discord. pinned in #self-promotion

[gray apex]

yea either of those

[twin thistle]

speedrun.com has ver 1.1.0 but 1.1.1 is in the discord which has a couple extra features

[astral walrus]

well, it does suck sometimes to waste all your rerolls on first boon pickup just to get something like lightning strike or tidal dash

[twin thistle]

mainly for really high heat

[raw herald]

AP2 zone basically

[twin thistle]

yep

and can toggle hellmode

[raw herald]

Oh nice

I didn’t know that

Welp, back to 52 grind I go

[gray apex]

Is it Special only Beowulf

[raw herald]

🤮

[gray apex]

The disrespect

[raw herald]

I’d prefer level 1 flood flare

[devout terrace]

Flood stinky in high heat

Passion flare priv stat is the way

Just get demeter attack or snow burst

Even dio can work

[gray apex]

I kinda like 1 Cast Dio ngl

[whole comet]

Dio cast with beo?

[gray apex]

Yes

[whole comet]

I try it out, it feels a bit slower since u gotta wait for the cloud to disappear

Not sure if it’s really on par with passion flare

[astral walrus]

it deals a lot more damage than passion flare, believe you me

over 1000 damage with just one cast, i kid you not

[twin thistle]

yeah it has double pom scaling, problem is mainly how much you need to get it to outperform passion

or floodflare more importantly

[astral walrus]

mirage shot + epic rush delivery

easy 1000 thousand damage with one cast

but yeah, the toughest part is one cast

not always can you get you that +1 from chaos

[twin thistle]

yeah with mirage shot and rush delivery and a couple poms you can do similar damage with flood flare except you have three casts you can keep picking up and spamming

[astral walrus]

that's why flood flare is considered to be the best i guess, but trippy has more damage potential still

sometimes you are lucky enough to get +2 casts from chaos

it's inconsistent, but does well for fun factor

[twin thistle]

yeah but with two extra chaos casts, rush delivery, and mirage shot youve already won either way. trippy can be fun though i agree

[astral walrus]

i've done my best times on beo with trippy actually

doesn't matter really since the difference is about 2-3 minutes, but still

and anyway it's not even sub 15

[gray apex]

I think mine is on Flood

[twin thistle]

btw have you rebound cast to a shoulder button for beo?

if youre using controller

[astral walrus]

now i've noticed some more bugs with beo, i remember someone was saying that you shall never sell your attack otherwise it bugs and your aoe is smaller

it happened with me, but i sold boon on special

not only did aoe got decreased, but damage as well

it was some frustrating experience

[twin thistle]

yeah beo is messed up

[astral walrus]

so don't sell not only your attack, but any of boons on core slots

similar happened when i sold a call

[mint coral]

truly the most broken aspect

[astral walrus]

i'm not

[twin thistle]

mhm nvm then

[gray apex]

kbm supremacy

[astral walrus]

in bad ways too unfortunately

i mean what if i NEED to sell that useless boon on special

i need money

i'm poor

[gray apex]

idk if there is anything known about that

Special Call stuff

[astral walrus]

all in all beo is my favorite weapon no more

however sad i am to say that

[abstract shuttle]

damn I defeated Hades 4 times in a row, died once now

sadge

[astral walrus]

don't get me wrong though, bugs get fixed, it's not about them

[gray apex]

I doubt any of those bugs will get fixed, they’ve been known for a long time

[strong ridge]

beo mirage is a feature

[raw herald]

There are about 5 beo bugs that are known about and haven’t been patched in months

They aren’t going anywhere

[twin thistle]

i like that slicing flare exists and doesnt work with anything

[steep elm]

i have no clue why but i don't think i've been offered greatest reflex in, like, 10 runs
even with rerolls, it's crazy

maybe it's a sign i should start taking +1 dash instead of the alt mirror talent

[astral walrus]

ahahah

yeah

if you're using ruthless reflex, i can tell you plain and simple without any signs that it's not worth it

[raw herald]

It’s very strong

Just hard to get used to

I like it on high heat shields

[whole comet]

if u ask me

i think it's just very hard to go back and play single dash lol

once u get spoiled by double dash for too long...

[oak gull]

almost double the I-frames

and imagine having 3, 4 or 5

[dusky wedge]

Oh? What are these bugs? Besides mirage shot?

[raw herald]

Trippy flare poms, slicing flare vicious cycle, selling attack boon affecting flare size, wide block angle

[dusky wedge]

alright

[raw herald]

I don’t think the wide block angle is a bug, but it is interesting

[mint coral]

on one side rare crop picked my aphro flare, on the other side i got the AoE bug

this is pain

oh fixed itself after heroes fight

[clever thicket]

In the room where you have the choice between 2 boons, and then you have to ''fight'' the other god you didn't select, besides fighting a different god, does it matter which you pick?

as in will the first/second one I pick have better chance of higher rarities etc

[calm zenith]

I love beo

But it does kinda feel restricted cast wise

[mint coral]

nothing else outside of who aids the fight

[clever thicket]

thanks

[calm zenith]

Like you can use anything with Achilles or Poseidon

Achilles leaves open other avenues of damage even if you are going for a weird cast duo or just dont have a cast yet

[mint coral]

why is my cast stuck to base AoE again aaaaaaaaa

[calm zenith]

why cant cod work with beowulf huh

[mint coral]

pretty sure you can get it? unless you mean to work like the other casts

[twin thistle]

cod beo

[high island]

Call of Duty Beowulf?

[twin thistle]

curse of drowning smh

[high island]

Smoldering Heir?

[last veldt]

I believe it used to matter and the God you picked first gave better boons, but it's not important now.

[lone kernel]

This is anecdotal but when I don’t pick Artemis and her dialogue indicates she’s still kinda tilted you didn’t pick her, she tends to not show up again

[modern pollen]

i was fighting the hydra and now he's floating

im scared

[twin thistle]

em2 moment

[modern pollen]

wait theres a rank above epic for basic boons bc i just found a red one

[modern garnet]

Yeah heroic boons appear only as replacements for other boons

You can also get them by upgrading an epic boon's rarity

[twin thistle]

yeah from eurydice or rare crop

[modern pollen]

oh i got it for deadly strike replacing lovely strike

[twin thistle]

replacement boons are one rarity above the boon it replaces

actually wonder if heroic boons are offered to be replaced

[mint coral]

once it hits heroic it cant be replaced

[whole comet]

hey, i wanna ask something about Charon Shop

can Charon shop appear a god boon that you never pick up b4?

[grizzled barn]

i have a confession to make

i dont pet cerberus every time i come home anymore 😭

[whole comet]

that's a serious crime...

[slim cove]

Apparently theres another combat ability similar to chthonic companions what is it? And how do i get it?

[modern pollen]

i don't either the animation just take so long

[grizzled barn]

none that im aware of, maybe calls are what you're thinking of?

[pliant cliff]

What companions do y'all use? I just always use the Thanatos one and use it at the beginning of the minotaur and co. boss fight

[high island]

Yeah... that's just you remembering the times she doesn't show up again more prominently than the times she does.

[lone kernel]

Entirely possible. I expect this is just my RNG experience and my primate brain finding patterns where there are none

[chrome wharf]

yes. most prominently Hermes but other gods too.
In fact your first encounter with Demeter can be through a shop if you get too many wins in the first few runs

[whole comet]

then, would Zag use the "first time" quote instead of the Charon one?

[chrome wharf]

iirc no, it's saved for the first time he picks her boon through a room reward

[whole comet]

some people theorize that

well for fresh file run anyway

that if they only pick Ares boon in Tartarus and skip all Dio and Art

they would have a 100% chance of getting Athena and Ares boon from Charon shops

which increases their ME chance

of course, assuming they have Ares atk

[high island]

That's true for first run.

[rapid forum]

man, most of my runs have aphro in it. Time to do one without her.

[chrome wharf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867888481324761108/905326578098110475/2021110301225101-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.mp4

[tropic arrow]

FO2 makes dad quite a bit harder

[rapid forum]

It is

[chrome wharf]

FO2 + EM dad

[rapid forum]

I've done that

Very fun

Highly recommend

[twin thistle]

fo2 em4 is

going into that with 145 max hp is also

[calm zenith]

Anyone else feel like the Cairon fight is almost inspired by the Manus fight in DS1?

In the DLC

Heavy hitting black fire balls that surround you

Massive melee hits and cleaves

[potent falcon]

Guan Yu kinda stinky ngl

Oop sorry, kinda interrupted lol

[calm zenith]

Why do you think that? Its great

Nah that's my thought

I think it just kinda relies on knowing enemy attack speeds and stuff if you want to spin

Otherwise you lose more hp than you gain

But just charged skewer special is ridiculously good and effective and safe

[potent falcon]

Idk the reduction of the range on the sweep isn't something I like very much. Also projectile is ehhhhhh not so good and the slower attack speed I don't mind but it doesn't feel as chunky and cool as Arthur

[calm zenith]

You want to use the dash strike

Serrated point gets really good

But that's a difficult build

Try just the special

[potent falcon]

I'll give it a run or two over to see if I can do okay with it

[calm zenith]

Aphro special Artemis attack. Just use special and hope to get heart rend. Get pressure points and mark

Just shoot it at marked targets and even before heart rend you'll crit for like 2000

Like 3200 vs bosses that you can hit with weak before they just die

People have used it for no hit runs

So in a way its safer than even bow

[twin thistle]

its good with charged skewer

[calm zenith]

Yeah

[twin thistle]

but when you dont get charged skewer the special does like half the damage

[calm zenith]

That's what really makes it feel good

Your 2nd hammer barely matters at least

[twin thistle]

can also just run merciful end or smouldering air on it like every other weapon lol

[calm zenith]

Yeah

I've done silly stuff like full doom attack

So Impending and dire

Athena special

[twin thistle]

dire misfortune

[calm zenith]

And dash

[potent falcon]

Hand feel is also a big thing for me if you couldn't tell lol and tbh I like the hand feel of guan yu, maybe I just had some bad luck with my runs with it and never gave it another chance

[calm zenith]

Guan yu has good hand feel imo

Like spin into special feels good

[twin thistle]

yeah it feels nice to play imo

[tropic arrow]

Any build that centres around spin attacks, no likey

[calm zenith]

It's almost like the zeus aspect of spears

[tropic arrow]

Vulnerable against dad

[calm zenith]

You can just use special

[tropic arrow]

And 3rd boss too

[twin thistle]

thats hades not guan yu

[calm zenith]

And quick spin makes it easier

[twin thistle]

you dont use the spin attack against bosses

only on spawning enemies or bunched up groups with guan yu

[calm zenith]

You can it just depends on heat and openings

Fo2 makes it much much harder

[twin thistle]

using it on bosses is just a waste of time even if you get it off

[potent falcon]

Also, I did talk abt this before but does rail feel kinda gross to use? I'm on switch and maybe the controller is hampering it

[twin thistle]

well other than lernie

[calm zenith]

Depends on its damage output

Like it's as wasteful as using Zeus special

Except it's a bit stronger but leaves you vulnerable

[twin thistle]

like just dash strike dash strike special instead of spin attacking against dad and champs

[calm zenith]

Fair

[twin thistle]

half the spin will just be wasted tbh

rail is kinda easiest to play on controller

like

it aims for you

[calm zenith]

I mean with quick spin you can get one out really fast

Yeah you need to rebind

[abstract forge]

i cant use malphon or else i'll have carpal tunnel

[potent falcon]

YES THAT'S IT. The auto aim is sooo sticky and weird

[calm zenith]

I play on switch and have dash on r reload on zr

Attack y special b cast x

[twin thistle]

eh whats the problem with the auto aim though

like youre still hitting the entire room because of zeus attack

[calm zenith]

Yeah it works fine once you get used time it

It just probably has a higher initial learning curve

[twin thistle]

and you want to shoot whatever enemy is closest to begin with

[twin thistle]

you can hold x to attack btw

[potent falcon]

For me personally it feels like the game flow and fluidity of the movement just kinda halts and you stand there for a bit to shoot

[chrome wharf]

The special is the one that's fiddly on controller

[twin thistle]

you can dash though

[calm zenith]

You can dash strike attack

You can hold attack and dash around

Like the last aspect

[spare tiger]

There's people who DON'T hold attack on Malphon?

[calm zenith]

With infinite ammo you can literally hold it for the entire run basically

And just tap dash

[chrome wharf]

Hestia has a tighter movement loop iff that's better for you

[twin thistle]

that guy apparently

[spare tiger]

Those poor poor souls

[calm zenith]

Yeah Hestia is just reload pop reload pop

[potent falcon]

Well damn. Just beat the game and have yet to figure out you can dash mid-shoot

[calm zenith]

Dash whenever its relevant

I literally didnt know either

Because switch controls

I have like 350 hours

[twin thistle]

might be easier if you put dash on a bumper

[potent falcon]

Tru

[calm zenith]

Yeah. That's why I put it on r

[twin thistle]

i have dash on a trigger because my bumper died

[calm zenith]

Thumb manages offensive buttons index finger manages dash or reload

[twin thistle]

rip left xbox bumper 🙏

[calm zenith]

I actually put call on joystick

[potent falcon]

I like dash on B for most weapons but if I must change for the gun then i shall change

[calm zenith]

It feels better trust me

It's better for dash special and dash cast too

It'll just take a bit to adjust to

[potent falcon]

ALSO have not yet unlocked final aspect for rail but i think it would be funny if it was just a modern assault rifle

[calm zenith]

Dont dash and attack with the same finger

[twin thistle]

lol same. i have call on left stick because i had to move it from trigger when my bumper broke

[calm zenith]

It's still better than default. Which is reload

Because reloading has to be tighter than calling even with smouldering

And that isnt a tight trigger

[potent falcon]

OH BTW what is rail's final aspect? I have all the others and idc about spoilers for this

[twin thistle]

laser beam

[potent falcon]

...who had that?

[calm zenith]

Laser and it shoots fireball mines on special

[twin thistle]

but tbh eris and hestia was just way better

[calm zenith]

Satan

[twin thistle]

lucifer

[potent falcon]

Aspect of Han solo?

AH THAT'S WAY WORSE

[calm zenith]

It's fun honestly

If you want it easy

Get Zeus special

The lightning turns them into proximity mines

To be clear, they are like radiating mines default

You gotta trigger them

[twin thistle]

but like you kinda want zeus on attack first

[calm zenith]

Damage them

Zeus on attack isnt always the way on rail

It just works

[twin thistle]

kinda the best option though

[potent falcon]

It will never be satan in my head for a multitude of reasons, the main one being that satan never used a laser gun. I shall headcanon it as Han

[calm zenith]

Fair

Like I said, you can literally not stop shooting it for entire chambers

With the right hammer

[twin thistle]

the special isnt even any good without triple bomb tbh

[calm zenith]

It's actually not an amazing hammer

But it let's you do some stuff that might be good

Like sea storm

[twin thistle]

eternal chamber kinda sucks outside of the meme yeah

[potent falcon]

"I SEE YOU WAGE A WAR IN THE STARS"
-Waking phrase

[high island]

Lucifer's Special is decent even without Triple Bomb.

Eternal Chamber is pretty good.

The aspect is just really good, all the hammers are good.

[twin thistle]

the lack of ramp up tho

[calm zenith]

It gets better with like, support fire tbh

[twin thistle]

ig

[calm zenith]

Sea storm will actually do some funny stuff with aim assist

[twin thistle]

like without triple bomb youre just getting so much more damage from your attack

[calm zenith]

Like constantly toggle through nearly targets

I've only seen that happen with poseidon and eternal

[twin thistle]

well if youre pushing one away then dashing makes sense

[calm zenith]

Yeah you can push groups into walls

[round turret]

Is it just me or are Zeus and Demeter boons lame

The only Demeter boon I like is the cast crystal

And the only Zeus boon I kinda like is the dash

[twin thistle]

zeus is probably one of the best gods

he synergizes with fast attacking weapons like the rail and fists

and getting static discharge or his legendary increase your dps by a lot

[round turret]

Wtf

Why did a trove just drop a nectar along with gold

[twin thistle]

theres a small chance

[round turret]

ah

[slim cove]

Like being able to use cerberus in battle?

[twin thistle]

not a thing

calls are the ones you get as boons from gods

[slim cove]

Weird... I saw a youtuber called haelian he used a kind of call but it was cerberus during his no boon run

[twin thistle]

that was probably dad doing it

em4 dad summons cerberus phase 2

[slim cove]

I see. So it was em redacted. legit thought it was zag that summoned cerberus

[rapid forum]

you have no idea how gutted I was when I found out I can't summon cerberus

[slim cove]

I think i do probably even worse

[oak granite]

🦵

[tiny flume]

What’s up everybody I’m brand new to Hades I’m about 35 runs in, and i straight up forgot that you could trade jewels at the broker for things that are actually useful. I just spent over 200 jewels on remodeling the lounge area before I finally remembered lmaooo

[rapid forum]

happens to the best of us

[tiny flume]

I may not be leveled up but at least my house looks pretty

[rapid forum]

well you get some lines for remodelling the house so it's cool

[jade lagoon]

I FINALLY DEFEATED HADES

I accidently got like a million lightning bolts when I dashed so I never hit him and only dashed

[rapid forum]

congrats

[gray apex]

Gilgamesh strats

[mental iron]

god the art in hades is so good

i love it so much

[timid mortar]

quick question
if you purge a requirment boon for a duo boon after getting the duo boon
does the duo boon deactivate

[mental iron]

i dont think so

[devout terrace]

Doesn't deactivate

[spice hearth]

It does not deactivate

[timid mortar]

catch me replacing divine flourish with curse the moment i get merciful end

[slim cove]

Is the favor of poseidon RNG? Ive already caught 209 fishes and i still cant unlock his locked heart even though i unlocked it really fast on my first save file

[gray apex]

You have to have a fish on you when talking to him if I'm not mistaken

There is still rng probably, due to the big dialogue pool, but it shouldnt take too long

[north needle]

welp, as the god of the sea, a large dialogue pool is expected

[abstract shuttle]

deepening a relationship with a character = giving more nectar?

[gray apex]

Yes

And eventually doing their quest and giving them Ambrosia

[slim cove]

Its taking long because i always finish my runs, maybe im just unlucky

[brisk trail]

A run only takes 20-30 mins tho

Or like, 8, if you use Eris 😎

[rapid forum]

Ew

[brisk trail]

Eris disrespect 🚨

[rapid forum]

[brisk trail]

Pls don't insult me and my 70% global damage increase

[thin bramble]

Eris gang rise up

[rapid forum]

You can have your 70% global damage, I'll stick with my dakka dakka boomstick

[full nexus]

75

[silent arch]

I've gotten to the final boss 6 times, got him about halfway down the second health bar, but have yet to beat him.

I'll be doing run 52 this afternoon

[rapid forum]

I believe in you

[thin bramble]

Good luck gamer

[brisk trail]

Keep at it! There is no escape

[thin bramble]

It took me about 60 attempts to beat him so keep your chin up

[brisk trail]

Damn for real?

[silent arch]

this game has me hooked

[brisk trail]

I got him on my 18th

[dusky wedge]

I took more than 60 lol

[silent arch]

I'm pushing 40, so my reflexes aren't what they used to be 😄

[thin bramble]

After that first win you will most likely beat him every time you reach him

[slim cove]

Never tried Eris tho

[brisk trail]

+1 to this

[slim cove]

Legit havent spent a single titan blood on it

[brisk trail]

Definitely pick up some blood and try it

It may be the most busted aspect

Maybe

A lot of the speedruns rn are eris

[slim cove]

Should i max it?

[brisk trail]

Nah, it's functional even at lvl 1, but I recommend going to at least 3

[fast willow]

8 min RTA

[thin bramble]

Even at level one it’s better than zag

[silent arch]

And ya'll lost me

[thin bramble]

I think Eris has the most documentation on it for guides because of how busted it is in general

[brisk trail]

Oop sorry

Flow of the conversation

[silent arch]

all good

[brisk trail]

Do you have all 3 death defiance?

[thin bramble]

Oh that’s a big thing.

I used to rely on stubborn and using lucky tooth in Styx until I realized that wow... 3 death defiances in one fight is pretty useful

[silent arch]

LOL, I've been relying on stuborn

[thin bramble]

If you notice you stop needing it for normal chambers then I’d switch to death

Using stubborn also lets you get into the mindset that you can always play risky which will hurt your skill in the long run

[silent arch]

I'll try it out

[mint coral]

if you want to keep using stubborn have an useful thing, if you lost your SD then pick up one of the death defiance refills from athena (deathless/last stand) you will gain a death defiance then next chamber your stubborn regenerates

[silent arch]

good to know. TY

[gray apex]

Let me introduce you to bosses

[devout terrace]

lmao

Guan yu just kinda dies in 3 hits on high heat

Its pretty funny

You have to take acorn basically

[manic bobcat]

Very ironic that in the ultra long run (40+ heat), you'd better learn to play with Stubborn or suffer.

[high island]

I don't think that hypothesis would hold up, anyway.

[full nexus]

Sometimes less

[bright dome]

Guys, do i need to befriend all olympians for the epilogue? Or just some of them

[mint coral]

6 of them (demeter counts when you reach the heart lock)

[bright dome]

Thanks

[potent falcon]

Yknow I thought the eye thing on Zagreus was a shading effect for the longest time. But nah his eye is just like that

[devout terrace]

HC lv1 aspect HL5 doesnt count

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?v=1

[stable dagger]

its that time of day again

Daily reminder that Artemis is best girl and cutest Goddess

[polar marsh]

Aphrodite is the main character of this story

[lone kernel]

It’s obviously the new secret spear aspect of Shaq

[lone kernel]

fist aspect of chuck norris

roundhouse kick special

[brisk trail]

Actually good rush kick

Maybe that's too much to ask

[smoky vigil]

YESSSSS

Precious salad hobo girl

[high island]

It's true! https://clips.twitch.tv/PeppyCloudySnoodDoggo-1SiN8wRSl3hsg9j8

[polar marsh]

[brisk trail]

True!!

[fast willow]

I love trying to roll for Athenas dd boons on lc4 stubborn and getting useless parting shot instead

[brisk trail]

Everyone's favourite duo boon!!

Parting shot yay!!1

Thanks Athena!111one

[fast willow]

but then when I play phalanx hera partingshot won't show up until styx

well atleast green boon= 450gold for UC

[vital nacelle]

hello

[brisk trail]

heya!

welcome to the house of hades

glory in death!

[vital nacelle]

thx

i have a question

[brisk trail]

ye

[potent falcon]

And that was the end of that

[devout terrace]

[twin thistle]

when will we know the question

[vital nacelle]

sorry lol

my internet is kinda bad

[charred hemlock]

Is there a rank above gamma warden

nvm there is

heck 1 titan blood and 3000 darkness time to grind the darkness again 🙂

[potent falcon]

OH btw is there any point to resetting the mirror? Like what benefits does that give me?

[gray apex]

If your mirror is already maxed there are no benefits

[potent falcon]

Oh okay

That IS what the cthonic key icon on the bottom does right?

[charred hemlock]

you do it for enabling nyx to go see chaos if u dont want to grind the darkness

yes it resets it

[vital nacelle]

lol

i didnt know that

[twin thistle]

wait you still havent asked a question....

[gray apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?size=96

Everyone is waiting to know the question

[whole comet]

Well then, I wanna ask about dio and ares boon

How’s dio stacking work if u have atk special and call all can hangover?

Same for ares if u have dire misfortune

[mint coral]

new stacks override the older stacks of hangover

so, dont do it

[whole comet]

Ic

Dire misfortune the same?

[twin thistle]

dire doesnt override

[mint coral]

dire misfortune just lets you stack until doom procs

[twin thistle]

it just adds to the damage of the current doom effect

[whole comet]

So chiron bow if I have lvl5 atk and lvl1 special

I hit enemy with atk then special

[modern garnet]

Both are ares?

[whole comet]

I would get a stack of lvl 5 atk doom?

Yes

Just an example

[modern garnet]

You'd get 1 level 5 doom, and 4 stacks of dire misfortune

The level of dire misfortune matters and the level of the special doesn't, in this example

[whole comet]

Hmmm ic

[modern garnet]

And by level of dire misfortune I mean rarity

[whole comet]

There’s no stack limit, right?

[modern garnet]

Probably not on dire misfortune

[twin thistle]

nope

[whole comet]

Ok

[twin thistle]

https://imgur.com/a/SSMYFEF

for example

[whole comet]

Lol lvl 100

[twin thistle]

this is obviously unmodded

[gray apex]

lv2 skull earring

Looks totally achievable

[whole comet]

I forgot what’s the highest lvl u could get for a boon to in a run

Realistically speaking

[twin thistle]

hmm think ive seen up to like the 50s? unmodded/seeded

over 20 isnt that hard if youre specifically doing a run to get a boon as high as possible

[whole comet]

Not a bad idea for Chiron with Zeus special lol

[twin thistle]

tbh youd want to spread the lvls between the special, jolted, and double strike

https://youtu.be/Rat74Uw2IAs

a cast makes a lot of sense since they have the best pom scaling

[whole comet]

But I thought at the point u reach 50

The scale would already got slowdown

[twin thistle]

yep. by a lot

but like ig casts slow down in scaling slower

[raw herald]

Hangover?

Not as easy to get sweet nectar but the Pom scaling is linear

[gray apex]

Sounds fun

[whole comet]

I dunno, hangover lvl 50 on its own?

[gray apex]

lv50 Dio Special doing 59dmg per tick lol

[whole comet]

Oh well

In Zeus special case

[potent falcon]

HANGOVER IS SO COOL

[whole comet]

Each hit will do dmg

[potent falcon]

Sorry just gotta give some props to my fave boon-giver lol

[whole comet]

But hangover still only applies 5 stacks

So not sure if hangover works as well

[potent falcon]

You can get a boon that let's it do more but ye it doesn't do it normally

[whole comet]

Well the other boon cannot have lvl

Or mom keepsake might hit that

At least, if u try to go for lvl 50 boon

[mint coral]

just use eris

free global dmg

[twin thistle]

that actually sounds kinda stonks

[potent falcon]

Hey can I get past the first heart lock on Hades or nah?

[mint coral]

yup

[potent falcon]

Oh how I do that

[full nexus]

Takes a while iirc

[mint coral]

keep escaping and it will open itself

[potent falcon]

Ohhh okay

I can repair my daddy issues

WAIT okay I hit a heart lock with Hypnos, is there a way to get past that?

[mint coral]

keep talking with him and thanatos

idk if than needs nectar tho

(also all favors are on the wiki)

[potent falcon]

Oh oki

Wait so I got Than in my big ole polycule already and I got to the point where Hypnos is like "Hey you're my bestie" did I just hit the end there?

[twin thistle]

well should be where the heart unlocks so if it did yeah

[potent falcon]

I gotta look at my console again lol

[modern garnet]

All heart locks require more conversation to unlock. Some of them require that you do stuff other than talk to them

[potent falcon]

Aha, so just like everything with Hypnos it relates to dying. And HE'S not even the god of death

[fiery zealot]

is smoldering air good

the duo boon

[gray apex]

yes

It can depend on the call you have, it's bad on like Artemis

[fiery zealot]

i have zeus

[gray apex]

It's one of the best calls for it if not the best

So that's good

[fiery zealot]

oh thats great

thx

[twin thistle]

smouldering air is probably one of the strongest boons in the game

[high island]

"Probably"?

[twin thistle]

is*

[gray apex]

Looks at Ares call

[high island]

That's better, you were about to be fed to my sacred crocodiles.

[twin thistle]

good idea imma do smouldering beyblade

[high island]

Lord Ares doesn't have a Call.

[gray apex]

He has a panic button

[fiery zealot]

whats best hamer for rail
triple bomb
explsive fire
or hazard bomb

[gray apex]

Hazard

Unless it's Eris

[twin thistle]

eris rail then triple

[fiery zealot]

i have the normal rail

[mint coral]

*specially if eris

[twin thistle]

hazard then

[fiery zealot]

but it can hurt me

[twin thistle]

also best hammer combo for eris is spread fire hazard dont @ me

[gray apex]

That's the good part

[fiery zealot]

😳

[twin thistle]

it does like 5 damage

[fiery zealot]

oh ok lol

[twin thistle]

its slow to land so it should be easy staying out of the radius

[fiery zealot]

also is aphrodite dash good

[twin thistle]

yeah its pretty good damage and good as a weak applicator for melee weapon

tidal dash or athena's are usually better tho

ares dash actually is probably better damage and stunlock too

[gray apex]

Does it really

[fiery zealot]

never got the chance to get them

[twin thistle]

or zeus dash with a bunch of tier twos

[gray apex]

If you have Aphro does it apply weak to you

[potent falcon]

I've never been afflicted with weak before. I don't even remember Theseus using it. I might have ig

Actually yeah I do remember theseus using aphrodite. so ig he must have inflicted weak

[mint coral]

Unless you have artemis and crits you for 15

[gray apex]

What if I have Poseidon and it slams me onto some wall

[fiery zealot]

is crystal beam good

[chrome wharf]

not on its own, but pretty powerful if you get Glacial Glare and Crystal Clarity and + casts on Stygian Soul

[fiery zealot]

uhuh

[chrome wharf]

a lot of ifs.

would highly recommend trying it at least once

[twin thistle]

best with achilles spear

[fiery zealot]

finally

i won for the first time

[abstract shuttle]

nice

[chrome wharf]

been watching Chinese high heat vods and the word for having a build really come together is the one for winning in mahjong

which coming to think is pretty fitting imo

[patent brook]

Does anyone else feel like they go a million years without running into Than? Is he avoiding me??

https://tenor.com/view/mr-beam-waiting-where-are-you-youre-late-gif-13909121

[remote lily]

Kill less monsters, he will have less work hehe 😎

[cerulean bough]

holy crap
I just got this game and it's so good, everything I loved from Dead Cells, Enter the Gungeon, and a few other games in one tremendous bundle

[twin thistle]

i have too many hours in this game

[rapid forum]

My friends constantly try to stop me from playing this game

[lone kernel]

just don’t have friends ez

[rapid forum]

they got me to hades

it's just they didn't anticipate how much time I'd pour on it

[lone kernel]

Aphrodite is your friend

[full nexus]

is so good

[rapid forum]

I would never betray Lady Artemis

[full nexus]

Yes but the emote

[verbal estuary]

Finished getting every Hades achievement. First time I've ever done that in any Steam game.

[high island]

She is! How did you know?

[lone kernel]

[calm zenith]

I only did that for boi afterbirth+

I haven't played repentence yet

I dont play Hades on pc anyway. No achievements for me.

[plush eagle]

Omg guys you gotta see this lmaoooo my reaction was priceless

https://youtu.be/d3jvluvmFqQ

Run #28

I’m slowly getting better

But that fight took me off guard

[rapid forum]

well

you prob should've expected that

good attempt tho

[plush eagle]

Ikr lmao he was only kneeling but for some reason I had expected it wasn’t possible to actually slay Hades and he would submit to defeat or something

Those green things though…

I was so dumb running straight into them over and over

It was my first time encountering anything like it

[chrome wharf]

yeah they can be hard to dodge

[plush eagle]

Ty 🙂

I shoulda just used my special then dash strike to retrieve it and rinse / repeat

I might have had a cast too

Whoops

Dionysus call is OP*

What’s the easiest way to farm Titan’s Blood after beating the first boss with every weapon?

[chrome wharf]

beat the last boss with every weapon

Save 15 keys on you and look out for the broker's deal

or save up money to shop at Styx

the most consistent way gets unlocked after you get a full clear

[twin thistle]

by the way you can press the attack button to retrieve the spear without dashing to it and when dad does his 360 lasers you wont take damage if youre close enough to him

[plush eagle]

That last part is what I thought

Thats why I said “what? I thought you’re supposed to hug him???”

Because I remembered hearing “hug your daddy” as a rule of thumb for the 360 lasers

But I still took dmg

I guess I wasn’t close enough to the middle??

[twin thistle]

you were initially in the right spot then you dashed away into the pillar and ended up too far

[plush eagle]

Is Divine Flourish any good for spear?

[plush eagle]

Rip, I was slick panicking so my position was awful the whole fight

[twin thistle]

achilles doesnt care about the special much

[plush eagle]

I have the option between divine flourish and holy shield rn

[twin thistle]

better than holy

[plush eagle]

I use my special all the time like it’s a third dash without iframes

It’s generally my gap closer

[twin thistle]

mightve been using it too much

[plush eagle]

I just wasn’t sure if it would be better to try to get a different special boon

The other option is sure footing, and like, if I’m not trash, I’ll take 0 damage from traps anyway

I think of the options flourish is best

[twin thistle]

generally you want to special into raging rush to get the buff then use your attack/cast till it runs out before using it against

[plush eagle]

I already have athena’s dash so this run is shaping up to have potential

[twin thistle]

with divine flourish you can get doom attack and do merciful end

also dad's pots count as traps btw

[plush eagle]

Oh you’re genius

But wait

I already have crit attacks

So it’s unlikely Ares will give me an attack boon, no?

Until I fill out my other boons

[twin thistle]

yeah. artemis attack is good on achilles though

[plush eagle]

I’ve noticed I tend to get boons for slots I haven’t filled first

[twin thistle]

and deadly reversal is decent

which is the arty/athena duo

[plush eagle]

Yeah

I think I’ll shoot for that

I’ve wanted a merciful end run for a while, but mainly for sword.

Glad to know it’s viable on spear too tho since it’s prob my favorite weapon

Just got an arty+athena chamber

Let’s gooo

Which one should I take first? I’m lacking the cast and the lightning bolt thingy below dash

[twin thistle]

artemis i guess

[plush eagle]

I don’t think I’ve used her cast much

Is it viable?

[twin thistle]

guessing you dont have much titan blood in achilles so your cast wont matter as much

[plush eagle]

Honestly I think I’d rather have clean kill

[twin thistle]

but athena cast is better

[plush eagle]

No I only have it upgraded like maybe once or twice at most

[twin thistle]

artemis has stuff like hunter's mark and support fire which should be useful

[plush eagle]

Is it really? I hate her cast. Trying to deflect with it feels clunky and it’s kinda slow

[twin thistle]

its good aoe damage

[plush eagle]

It’s like my last resort if I don’t have a deflect yet

[twin thistle]

usually you want to use it closer up

its more for the damage than deflect

[plush eagle]

Although, the last time I used it I was pretty poor at the game and still wasn’t using casts efficiently

I’ll give it another shot sometime

I def prefer Demeter and Ares casts as my favorites atm

But I’d like to learn to use trippy shot since it seems like a cool mechanic, albeit maybe a bit gimmicky

[twin thistle]

trippy you usually want to pair with demeter

[plush eagle]

I don’t think I swore there

[twin thistle]

their duo boon makes it not lob and just instantly detonate where you aim it

[tender pelican]

I consider Dionysus to be the weakest call in the game except for Artemis

[twin thistle]

ever heard of ares call

or demeter

[tender pelican]

His isn't great either but I'd rather be immortal for 5+ seconds and kill things than a call that does similar damage while not doing that

[twin thistle]

guess zeus call must suck then

[tender pelican]

Zeus does his damage quickly so that edges him ahead of the others like it for me

I put it as:

Aphrodite
Poseidon
Athena
Demeter
Ares
Zeus
Artemis

[plush eagle]

Idk I was absolutely melting Hades with that hangover. It was upgraded a good amount tho. Doing like 25 dmg per tick or something ridiculous

[potent falcon]

Ares call is okay

[plush eagle]

I’ve never gotten Ares call but it looks so cool

[twin thistle]

its really only decent if you have vicious cycle

[potent falcon]

It's not the best but It's okay

[tender pelican]

Ares call is also one of the only ones that can be boosted with his other boons

[plush eagle]

Anyway I got Athena cast so I’ll give it another shot

[potent falcon]

My favorite is actually Aphrodite cause it literally does nothing other than a butt ton of damage to bosses

[tender pelican]

Oh I forgot athena call

[twin thistle]

calls that are only any good at full gauge are just a waste tbh

[potent falcon]

Fair

[twin thistle]

unless your build has no dps then half the call ends up wasted to immunity phases

[tender pelican]

I mean, I never fill it up worth anything in normal fights to begin with

[potent falcon]

For me most of the time I kinda forget the gauge is there so I'm like "oh hey I have my ultimate"

[plush eagle]

Zeus’ aid, Heaven’s Vengeance, or Lightning Reflexes?

[twin thistle]

aid

[plush eagle]

Sorry I should be in beginner chat lmao

[twin thistle]

nah here is fine

anyways cant really talk about the hades fight there

[plush eagle]

True

Onto asphodel

PAUPER’S LUNGE

This is it boys

This is the run

[brisk trail]

does Hell make the game harder in any other way than making the game start on Heat 5?

[plush eagle]

Oh boy, breaching skewer or serrated point? On the one hand, I’d love to be able to shred through armor, but on the other hand, I literally have pauper’s lunge….

And dash range doesn’t even matter anyway because my special is a longer dash

Serrated point it is

Okay, this damage is broken

And I haven’t even gotten my pauper’s lunge yet

[rapid forum]

There's a pact exclusive to hell mode which is personal liability, in which you minimalized recovery iframe when you get hit

By minimalized

I mean just gone

Reduced to ashes

Just like you when you get hit by that big ball from the witch

[plush eagle]

DEADY REVERSAL LET’S GOOOO

[twin thistle]

its just the shield you get from being hit a ton at once aint it

[plush eagle]

THIS IS THE RUN

First time taking cyclops jerky

[modern pollen]

Is there anyway to get artemis to talk about callisto