h1-discussion

[rapid forum]

Asterius however

[whole comet]

and most people would go for Asterius first

yeah, gl if u melee him...

even range sometimes could be annoying

[crude oxide]

is lucifer good?

[modern garnet]

It's weird

But in a good way

[whole comet]

it really must just me that i dun run TD O_O

[rapid forum]

TD 1 is fine

[whole comet]

hate it too

i just dun like time limit

or for that matter

pause and decide

[modern garnet]

TD1 is a psychological pact, like AP

[chrome wharf]

it's fine if you don't do really high heat

and even high ish is fine on some weapons

join the TD0 AP2 society

[whole comet]

high heat seems to mean too much different though,, between 32 40 50 60

i mean, 32 heat is still easy to me on shield and bow

[chrome wharf]

32 is the start of high according to the leaderboards

[modern garnet]

32 is the highest that the game will reward you for doing

[whole comet]

yeah i beat it pretty early

well, haven't tried all weapon yet

would hate to use the fist

but feels like i should do it on all

[chrome wharf]

people who do all aspects 32 impress me

[whole comet]

lol all aspect i think i'm just too lazy

just gonna do the zag fist and be done

[chrome wharf]

I'd rather do 40 on stuff I like than 32 on everything

[whole comet]

that's why i just plan to do all 32 on all weapon

some just once

[modern garnet]

I might do 32 all weapon but ill never 32 all aspect

[chrome wharf]

admittedly I prob did 32 Nem just to have a column of all 32s

tried Arthur for a bit and decided I don't like it enough to do 32

[rapid forum]

already did 32 heat all weapon

[whole comet]

ur least favorite?

[rapid forum]

let me think

sword

the fist was a bit of a bumpy ride but I got ME

[whole comet]

as i thought

it's usually melee 😄

sword/fist, just usually the worst

[rapid forum]

spear was great, shield was ok, rail was fabulous

[chrome wharf]

Fists aren't that bad

yeah I yoloed a 37 on Eris and got it 2nd try

Probably took a week off my Switch graphics card's life span

[rapid forum]

I got a PB on my 32 heat rail

[chrome wharf]

yup same

[whole comet]

question

if i post a SS on victory tab

is there a way to find it?

assuming it was still there

[chrome wharf]

it's always up there but you might have to scroll

[rapid forum]

you can search for it in search bar

[chrome wharf]

you can filter it to posts only by you, in that channel

[rapid forum]

yes

[whole comet]

does not seem to show up

oh well

still really happy with my 33 boonless 😄

[chrome wharf]

if you recall a unique enough text post around the same time, you can search for that

[narrow hemlock]

#h1-victory-boasting message ?

[lone kernel]

Arthur 32 was super hard and I have yet to solve nemesis at 32

[narrow hemlock]

assuming that was what you were searching for

[whole comet]

ah yeah that one

[narrow hemlock]

its the only thing in the channel

[high island]

Smoldering Air, Heart Rend, lots of Chaos boons.

[whole comet]

at that time i thought Charon is easy, but doing him no damage is quite rough...

[high island]

Nemesis shines when everything dies quickly and weeps when they don't.

[rapid forum]

idk which one is the best thing out of that SS, actual boonless, chiron, 33 heats or unmaxed shackle

[whole comet]

u could definitely say the worst is the time 😄

[rapid forum]

or won against charon

[chrome wharf]

What weapon doesn't?

[rapid forum]

that is negligible at that point

[whole comet]

but that's what all people do in high heat, TD

u prolly would have a hard time to do 100% free

with a timer

[reef zodiac]

I didn’t

My run was 17:15 and I played extremely cautious

[whole comet]

still,

if i have unlocked mirror at that point

would prolly even easier

[reef zodiac]

Probably wouldn’t save you 34 minutes though

[lone kernel]

I’d recommend doing a few runs with TD3 LC4 and stubborn - it takes practice and you’ll need to pass on boons for free rooms sometimes, but it is doable

[whole comet]

no thz

i never like to play games that got forced to play fast

well, i guess depends

if it's build in like ghost and goblin, that's a different story

but if u let me choose, i prolly won't want to

[chrome wharf]

you don't have to play TD3 but past a certain point, the heat you save is going into stuff that makes enemies harder to kill, so the time pressure is still there

[whole comet]

but i never aim to beat Hades max 64 or 60

[reef zodiac]

LMAO

[whole comet]

tbh, i'm happy to beat a certain heat 38 set up

[chrome wharf]

^there

[whole comet]

at least, i enjoy it that way

i tried TD2 on some weapons b4, and hate it

like, even picking 2 chest is already gonna screw up the time

and sometimes if u use melee

those medusa head fly in corner

sure, some weapons can do it

but definitely not all

[reef zodiac]

Every weapon can do sub 10 minutes

So they can definitely do sub 20

[rapid forum]

FO is a good way to get faster time

cause they respawn faster

in turn die faster

[reef zodiac]

Yep

FO2 makes a big difference

[whole comet]

btw, i wanna ask about this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6ko8lIaYD0

[white merlin]

whats the strat for EM3? on fists?

[whole comet]

how come he didn't get the boonless message?

[reef zodiac]

Another message probably overrode it

[whole comet]

i thought chaos boon shouldn't affect it

but when i youtube, seems like those people didn't get 100 free message

tends to have chaos boon

[reef zodiac]

Chaos doesn’t affect it

[whole comet]

wiki said u can

[reef zodiac]

Really? Eh maybe. But Chaos isn’t Olympian

[high island]

100% Olympian-Free doesn't have priority.

[whole comet]

lol i was lucky, if i die 1 more time, Death defiler might've taken over

[chrome wharf]

from my trial and error experience, same as the regular fight, except mind Asterius' shockwaves, and when he does the super spin, go hit Theseus. Follow closely behind him and mind the bombs. Don't get in front of him.

[whole comet]

then i gotta redo it 😦

[high island]

Tailesque was eligible for more than one run clear message, so the game picked one at random.

[whole comet]

Used 6 Death Defiances

yeah, i prolly would redo if that happens

[whole comet]

about Asterius, the worst part is prolly his jump slam also aoe around him

[white merlin]

yeah

i always get hit by that

[high island]

If you have Divine Dash and dash just before he hits the ground, you'll deflect the ground slam, which will also negate the damage from the shockwave.

[white merlin]

ill give this a try

[whole comet]

did u do TD?

or just EM3?

[high island]

If you're doing EM3 on Malphon, definitely get Divine Dash until you have a lot more experience in the fight or unless you have very high DPS with, say, Lightning Strike + Splitting Bolt etc.

[white merlin]

I tend to always go for Zeus on fists, I guess I didn't have enough juice this time....

[white merlin]

I was doing em3, td2, and convenience fee 1

[whole comet]

i see

[chrome wharf]

Get Static Discharge asap for Zeus fists

[reef zodiac]

Why is that relevant? Were you gonna suggest a strategy that takes 6 minutes or something

[white merlin]

I was also messing around with uh.... Demeter aspect?

Blows Talos out of the water tbh

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

[twin thistle]

other fist aspects be kinda eh smh

[white merlin]

I was legit doing 900+ crits on the special

Kinda feel like a dumdum for playing Talos all this time

[whole comet]

RI4 lol

now i can understand why people will save that one as last for High heat

[reef zodiac]

Wouldn’t you already know that? I thought you beat fresh file?

[whole comet]

it's just like

people that get very high speed clear

[reef zodiac]

How fast do you consider “very high speed”?

[whole comet]

their screen has lots of boons

dark foresight

and that was taken away lol

can they even get back to powerless mode O_o

[reef zodiac]

Right but shouldn’t you be used to not having DF if you did First Win and a lot of runs on Hell Mode First Win?

[whole comet]

once they beat 56 heat with no RI

then, gl lol

[reef zodiac]

56 RI0 is quite uncommon I’d guess. Most 56 heat runs use RI2 at least I’m pretty sure

I did RI2 for 50 heat

[dull niche]

RI bad

[whole comet]

those who did unseed 60+

prolly very dedicated to the game to do that

[devout terrace]

Very hihg speed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?v=1

[dull niche]

zoom

[fast willow]

i love and hate rare crop

sometimes it hits exactly the boons i need it to

and other times it hits my epic special and cast when i have a common attack and dash

[steady geyser]

Does exagryph hammer “explosive fire” (area dmg + slows) stack with chill?

[brisk trail]

Maybe

[steady geyser]

Is there some puzzle to do with the 3 statues in the west hall?

[whole comet]

the one with the old man, skull and the clock thing?

[rapid forum]

it's 7:48

[brisk trail]

i remember reading somewhere that if you interact with the old man enough times the narrator will react to it? never happened for me tho

[last veldt]

Yeah, poking the statue illicits responses from the narrator (and some of the responses imply that ||the statue is the narrator||).

It's very meta.

[steady geyser]

Oh, hm

[brisk trail]

i just looked at my clears

only 1 with shield 🥲

ironically the first time i ever won

[devout terrace]

[whole comet]

someone actually has more sword than the shield!

i prolly could never do that 😦

fist too

[brisk trail]

i owe it all to demeter

i dont like gilga tho

[whole comet]

which sword u like?

[brisk trail]

unironically zag sword

getting epic haste and flurry slash is just to must fun i've ever had

[whole comet]

lol zag sword

also the one i seem to use a lot recently cause of fresh run hell 😦

bow's still the best, right?

[fast willow]

what are some good attack and special boons for aphro cast beowulf run?

i want to get mirage shot so poseidon and arty right?

[whole comet]

dio is good too for cast

[rapid forum]

Aphro cast is pretty good, athena cast also

Avoid zeus cast

Also avoid ares and demeter

[fast willow]

lmao i just killed meg in like 8 seconds with 3 triple cast beo charges

[rapid forum]

Sounds about right

[fast willow]

i thought ares on special might be not too bad for this?

[brisk trail]

man i wanna try beo so bad

[fast willow]

though tbf i probably never click spec

[rapid forum]

Yea sorry

I meant ares and dem cast

You can go for doom special if you want

A bit slow tho

[fast willow]

also i got demeter on spec since i didnt have any other choice, is it worth selling her boon to make space for something that would enable better duos

i know mirage shot is very good on beo, is there anything else noteworthy?

[rapid forum]

Charged shot

Dem's snow burst is great

[whole comet]

btw, demeter mirage shot, wouldn't u need the auto lock duo too?

[fast willow]

isnt that only after applying 10stack though?

[rapid forum]

No

The one that burst an AOE damage when you load a cast

[fast willow]

oh

[rapid forum]

Ez 120 dmg

[fast willow]

alright ill keep demeter in the pool to try for that one

also i find beo very good for bosses but hard to clear normal rooms with

[strong ridge]

cast harder

[fast willow]

alright just 1 keepsake left to get

btw how many times do i have to gift meg to get her summon item

[rapid forum]

Until you give her ambrosia iirc

[zealous tapir]

I gotta ask

does anyone use Stubborn Defiance

it feels like just walmart version of the 3 death defiance perk

[gray apex]

We all use it at high heat

Because it’s your only way to heal reliably when LC4 is on

[zealous tapir]

Makes sense

[gray apex]

You can manage LC4 with DDs but it’s a lot more of a pain, and SD is actually really comfortable to use when you’re more familiar with your weapons/enemies

[whole comet]

when will high heat start ask u to do LC4?

[rapid forum]

I do that on my 32 heat runs

[whole comet]

first 32 heat run? or more like when you're used to heat 32?

[rapid forum]

it's right after my first 32 heat run

[mint coral]

i started with lc4 and sd after the first 32 too

[rapid forum]

I was thinking to just play outside of my comfort zone by playing SD

[mint coral]

just more comfy than to mess with other pacts

[whole comet]

i see

[devout terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/875858876942151682.gif?v=1

[rapid forum]

my first 32 heat run was brutal

lol

I just checked the heat

[mint coral]

what did you take lmao

[whole comet]

i dun remember mine, other than no TD and EM3

[devout terrace]

no TD

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?v=1

[mint coral]

bouldy rolling

[devout terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835125168341778463.gif?v=1

he sphere

[rapid forum]

#h1-victory-boasting message

that

[mint coral]

CP2 JS2 moment

gotta love that "robbed thanatos" tho

[devout terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864281763526344705/884402892021325854/852565414092865547.gif

[rapid forum]

strong drink save my life

I got epic strong drink

and got all optional fountain

in every biome

so that's like... 25%?

prob more

wait

where's strong drink?

[devout terrace]

quite a bit lol

[rapid forum]

I DIDN'T HAVE STRONG DRINK WHEN FIGHTING DAD?

[devout terrace]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766637757726722/835126879341772810/bouldypet.gif

give it to bouldy

[whole comet]

enjoy 😄

[rapid forum]

oh well

I still won

[devout terrace]

's thirst is everlasting

[gray apex]

My first 32 was ME cheese

[devout terrace]

is ME really cheese if its a nightmare to get

[whole comet]

i certainly dun see it a lot at fresh file hell even with just 4 gods...

[rapid forum]

is it even a nightmare to get?

[gray apex]

It kinda is

[devout terrace]

consistently before lernie atleast

[whole comet]

in fact, i stll think the duo boons are different appearance rate

[devout terrace]

athena resets

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523774570394681344/871832332095602728/zagSnoozePat.gif

[mint coral]

just checked my first 32 lmao
HL3, JS3, em3, CP1, BP2, MM, UC, FO2, dc1 and TD2

eris moment

[whole comet]

sighhh... when the day i need to 32 heat fist 😦

[devout terrace]

you can do zeus attack with DC2

and pivot for jolted and athena dash, a good special mb

shouldnt be too bad

[whole comet]

i see,

[gray apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/821457274023313428/unknown.png

This was mine

[rapid forum]

I did a demeter fist on 31 heat run. And for some reason I used zag for 32

[whole comet]

i might as well just do zag fist and get it done, planning to zag weapon all 32

[mint coral]

huh, i used bouldy for the first 32 lol

[devout terrace]

just remember to pick up breaching cross

to make those BP enemies a lot easier

without its just kinda miserable

[gray apex]

And don’t die

[rapid forum]

I considered it for a bit, but I came to a conclusion "just kill them faster"

either they die or I die

[gray apex]

I didnt use him because I had LC4 on so no healing from that, the 1K dmg was too tedious for me and idk I guess I don’t care much about the gold

[devout terrace]

also

[mint coral]

i probably didnt have meg or permission to use it against dad

[whole comet]

i thought meg doll is considered the best, right?

[mint coral]

no clue why not meg

[devout terrace]

calculated risk kinda bad

just makes everything a bullet hell

[brisk trail]

Getting spammed with witch clones and the orb also seeks

pure bullet hell

[whole comet]

calculated risk, the one that slows projectile

i was starting to like it a lot

works well with deflect

[rapid forum]

Oh yea no

I have bad experience with calculated risk

I had it with arthur once

[thorny mirage]

how

Even better

[rapid forum]

It was poseidon trial, I put the seal down.

THE WAVE DRIFTED

ON THE SEAL

Wish I recorded it

[whole comet]

i think trial projectile, the love goddess one too, can't be deflected

[rapid forum]

Yea can't

[whole comet]

they were gods' wrath after all

[rapid forum]

You can iframe into it

[brisk trail]

What is the hardest god's trial attack?

[reef zodiac]

Probably Aphrodite

Or Poseidon

[brisk trail]

I kinda struggle alot on zeus one

[zealous tapir]

I dislike Artemis' one since its randomised and the targeters move around, and my square brain can't process where they will actually deal damage

but idk for sure

[mint coral]

poseidon in elysium is pain, i lost the projectile a lot more than i like to admit

[rapid forum]

Aphro creeps up on you

Gives me a lot of trouble

[mint coral]

demeter if you are using a melee weapon too

[reef zodiac]

Athena’s can be bad in Elysium and/or with Tight Deadline

[devout terrace]

Nah Athena's good

Since you can get her death defiances

By picking against her

[mint coral]

talos is fun against athena trials/than lol

just pull the enemies outside of the AoE

[devout terrace]

(atleast on SD, you need to die before claiming the dd)

[robust sail]

hello yall any one else having difficulty against ||hades||

[brisk trail]

Against what

[robust sail]

spoilers are ok?

[brisk trail]

Oh my brightness is Down I didn't see it lmao

[robust sail]

no worries happens 🙂

[chrome wharf]

Spoilers are fine here

[robust sail]

oh coool

[brisk trail]

I'm not having trouble tho

[gray apex]

Anything specific you're struggling with? Or just in general

[robust sail]

those skulls with the circle attacks?

dunno what to call it

[chrome wharf]

if you can kill them safely, do it asap

you can dash through the circles

try not to get hit twice like me

[robust sail]

you can dash through them

idk that

[robust sail]

why not?

[thorny mirage]

because

more damage

[robust sail]

cool

do any of you know how to get those diamonds real quick?

[chrome wharf]

kill the hydra with different weapons

once you win against hades once, the game will tell you how to earn more

[robust sail]

how do I check if i did it with a weapon?

[reef zodiac]

There might be situations where you can’t safely kill the heads and that’s ok. As long as you keep an eye on the countdown above their heads and make sure to dash through the shockwave and not away from it (don’t attack during the dash though, or you will lose invincibility)

[robust sail]

oh i didnt know any of that

there is a count down on heads?

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

What weapon do you use right now btw?

[robust sail]

anything with the purple glow

[wanton chasm]

Based

[marsh rivet]

The bounties at the door will show you which ones you've earned at a particular heat level

(before you start a run, when you select pacts)

[robust sail]

ohh allright idk know that you could do that

[obtuse whale]

you need to beat daddy before you can do that

[reef zodiac]

A big tip for Hades if your starting out and are having trouble with the boss is that all of his attacks (beside the beams) can be avoided by dashing at the right time. During the duration, you have full invincibility (unless you dash-strike. You will lose i-frames as soon as you attack during a dash). You can use this to dash through attacks like the spin or the stab.

[robust sail]

i had no idea that the dash had i frames

[reef zodiac]

Yeah it’s amazing

It will also be worth your time to learn the optimal attack combos for each weapon, assuming you care about that kind of thing

[marsh rivet]

Idk about all that lol. "Optimal" is a long way from "effective"

And one of those makes sense to learn when you're new

[reef zodiac]

I just mean like dash-strike dash-strike special with sword

Stuff like that

[marsh rivet]

Yeah I get you

It's arguing semantics though lol, because, say, you're Nemesis, against a Greatshield. If you use both dashes to dash strike, you're likely going to get hit. So all of a sudden, your optimal combo is nonsense

[reef zodiac]

The shield is a lot better when you know how to bull rush out of dash strikes and such

Yeah that’s true

[fast willow]

fun builds suggestion?

[reef zodiac]

Trippy shot Beowulf

Stygian soul

[marsh rivet]

Kinetic Launcher Demeter

[reef zodiac]

Go for mirage shot and scintillating feast

[fast willow]

i just did a beowulf

[reef zodiac]

Pom that cast as much as possible

[gray apex]

Charged Flight Beowulf

[reef zodiac]

You can insta-phase Hades

[marsh rivet]

Super Soaker Lucifer

[fast willow]

also trippy shot stygian requires you to reroll chaos for the cast and i only have 1 reroll currently

[reef zodiac]

Ooh Super Soaker is fun

[reef zodiac]

Ah alright very fair

[fast willow]

didnt get the lucifer dialogue yet sadly

[reef zodiac]

Crystal Beam Achilles

Or Hunting Blades if you’d prefer

[fast willow]

just did crystal meme achilles not too long ago

is hera bow different enough from beowulf?

[marsh rivet]

Dire Misfortune Chiron

[fast willow]

because id be down to try that

[reef zodiac]

Dude I’m still in shock from my PB last night. I don’t even know what to do now, I got an insane PB that I’ll probably never beat, I did 40 24/24, I did 50 heat. What do I even do now?

[gray apex]

sub 8 all weapons

[marsh rivet]

Get 50 on the other aspects you like?

[gray apex]

[reef zodiac]

I’ve only gotten two sub 8s ever. So no thanks, I’m not Magnil

[mint coral]

chill a while and trash em4 dad?

[gray apex]

Lol

[reef zodiac]

Nah I think I’m done with 50 heat, one was enough

[vapid narwhal]

EM4 and chill arent some word you usually see together all the time

[marsh rivet]

Fair

[mint coral]

em4 dad alone isnt that bad

[reef zodiac]

I do 12 heat (EM4 MM) runs for fun

[marsh rivet]

...Wtf that pact lmao

[reef zodiac]

Those are the fun ones to me lmao

It’s not like I care about the heat number

I just do pacts that make the game more fun for my stupid jank runs

[marsh rivet]

You can do the other aspects Fresh File

[reef zodiac]

I never did Fresh File

I gave up

[marsh rivet]

Stygius is miserable though

[mint coral]

i like playing with at least 15 heat, even if i never enter an elysium erebus w

[marsh rivet]

It's a lot more fun on other aspects (modded obv)

[reef zodiac]

I’m on switch

[marsh rivet]

oof

[reef zodiac]

Yeah that’s fair. I’ve been considering adding FO1 to my casual pact

Or BP1 TD1

[mint coral]

i need to play with fo2 again, played too much without it and muscle memory is gone

[reef zodiac]

But if I have TD1 I’ll feel foolish because it could obviously be TD3

[marsh rivet]

Eh, different strokes for different folks. I don't bother with TD3 until past 50 lol

usually anyway

[reef zodiac]

TD3 is kinda free in my experience, unless it’s EM4

Without JS, CP, or EM4, TD3 is basically free for me tbh

[marsh rivet]

I don't like runs ending with sack RNG, so my copium is dealing with JS3 CP2 TD2

[reef zodiac]

[mint coral]

just play modded so is always 2 sack /j

[marsh rivet]

I'm not gunning for any records anymore lol, so yeah that's tempting. Though I play mostly on the Switch nowadays

[reef zodiac]

I’m just thinking about the 40something% chance that my 6:45 run got 3-sacked and became 7:25

Thank god it didn’t

But it absolutely could have

[fast willow]

is ME better for talos or demeter fists

[marsh rivet]

Or longer, if you get like multiple rooms with elite armored rats

[marsh rivet]

Yes

[reef zodiac]

Demeter is always gonna be better than Talos tbh

[mint coral]

unmodded is fun until you meet barge/asterius/tiny all in a row

[reef zodiac]

Well I had a 32 second Hades fight so as long as it wasn’t a 4+ sack, I would handle it pretty fast still

[pure karma]

I can't beat fresh file hell mode 😦

[reef zodiac]

It was a pretty busted build

[reef zodiac]

Yeah ofc not, it’s insanely hard

[marsh rivet]

You can pretty easily tell speedrunners from challenge runners depending on their attitude towards Barge lmfao. Heat -> "Oh thank god, it's not Power Couple". Speed -> "Where's the lava?"

[pure karma]

I die in styx all the time

[reef zodiac]

I think I got Barge lmao

Also Power Couple isn’t that hard imo

Just Meg at the right time

I used to struggle with it tbf

[marsh rivet]

It's highly variant because of Gorgon poofing

[mint coral]

MM barge kinda comfy

[marsh rivet]

And depends on aspect. It's really execution dependent for Rama for instance. If you mess up you could be in there for a minute instead of 10 seconds

[reef zodiac]

That is true actually

[marsh rivet]

I still screw up all the time on Rama lol. A lot can go wrong and it's always a teeny bit different

[pure karma]

Rama is such a fun aspect

Can I beat Hades with 1 defiance left you think?

[mint coral]

ye

dont get hit

[rapid forum]

On my first ever 32 heat run, I didn't have DD on hades

I did no hit on him

Don't get hit

[pure karma]

You guys are brilliant!

"Don't get hit" is the best advice ever!

[mint coral]

thanks hypnos for those wonderful tips

[pure karma]

I died

To hades

At 20 heat

Well, it was fun you all. It;s time to uninstall.

Farewell

[reef zodiac]

[marsh rivet]

lmfao I remember when I started my hell mode account, I was grinding through bounties, at flat 25 heat, and got crushed my first three Stygius attempts

[thorny mirage]

dragon uninstall

[brisk trail]

Damn, hazard bomb so op

600 damage each shot is pog

[marsh rivet]

You can also iframe the hazard bomb with Eris and still get the buff :3

There's also a small window where you can dash out of the radius and still get the buff as well

[brisk trail]

Imagine if hazard bomb and 3 bomb combined

how op will it be

[mint coral]

cluster hazard when

[brisk trail]

a boss wouldnt even have a chance to breath once

[mint coral]

if only it was possible

at the same time it makes sense lol

[brisk trail]

Its basically free win most of the time if you get that 600 damage bomb

I killed the hydra too quickly with it

[reef zodiac]

Hazard is really good, yeah

[reef zodiac]

Hazard Rocket

[mint coral]

anvil into hazard clockets

[heady cypress]

Is there a way to activate the teleporter in the room with the working shades(sorry I still don't know the name lmao)

[twin thistle]

you wont be able to use it but if you progress nyx's and chaos' storyline its a part of that

[heady cypress]

Oh good to know

I think im close to finishing nyx's quest

Btw have you ever thought about the fact that chaos looks like james Charles?

[pure karma]

That thing was 8888 darkness once

insane

[twin thistle]

aint it more like 4-5k

[heady cypress]

Saw that in a comment under a hades video and I can't stop thinking about it

[twin thistle]

but yeah save some darkness

[pure karma]

It's 3ksmth iirc

[mint coral]

i sure love that one aspho room that hides all of the enemies in a corner and they refuse to move

[heady cypress]

You have to upgrade your rank right?

[pure karma]

Rank?

[twin thistle]

no

[heady cypress]

Whu-

[mint coral]

rank is just cosmetic

[pure karma]

You mean in Hades' room?

[heady cypress]

Yes

[pure karma]

That is just cosmetic

[heady cypress]

I kept buying it cuz I thought you need it for the quest lmao

Rip +5k darkness

[pure karma]

lol

[twin thistle]

yeah thats not related to any of the other storylines lmao

[pure karma]

rip darkness

The last rank costs like, 300k right?

[twin thistle]

buying enough ranks will get you some dad dialogue i think but its a crazy amount of resources

[heady cypress]

4,5k*

[twin thistle]

that or 500k lol idk

[lunar orchid]

dam i had no idea there were mods

what are some fun mods?

[pure karma]

last rank is 12k

[heady cypress]

12k is the last upgrade idk how much it is in total

[pure karma]

total of all ranks 325k

[heady cypress]

325k

[heady cypress]

Exactly

[lunar orchid]

do they actually end?

[heady cypress]

Yes

[lunar orchid]

it seems like they cycle or something, I swear ive seen some sometimes before

[heady cypress]

Unseen one is the last one

[heady cypress]

The names Dont Change that much

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Resource_Director

[lunar orchid]

ah ok

that makes more sense

[pure karma]

I like how they avoided putting a Beta rank lol

[lunar orchid]

heh

[marsh rivet]

There's a mod to allow you to Fresh File any aspect, a mod for a "new" aspect that was half finished in the code, that people refer to as BowBeam, if you like seeding runs without suicide there a mod for that as well

[mint coral]

this trippy flare beo is going painful, im gambling on getting artemis legendary bc chaos decided to not show up

[pure karma]

New weapon mod?

oh my god

I mmight not unistall

[marsh rivet]

It's actually a pretty fun aspect lol

I got 50 on it for memes

[lunar orchid]

what is freshfile?

like a new game?

[marsh rivet]

Your very first run

[lunar orchid]

o

[pure karma]

starting a new file and winning your first run

[heady cypress]

Dying to meg

[lunar orchid]

whats the point of that

[pure karma]

way harder than iut sounds trust me

[marsh rivet]

Its' a completely different style of run

You're locked to 4 gods, don't have call, mirror, etc.

[lunar orchid]

cant y ou just make a new game file in game?

[marsh rivet]

Only on base Stygius

[lunar orchid]

o i see so all the weapons are unlocked?

[marsh rivet]

The mod allows you to do it on the 23 other aspects

[lunar orchid]

ahh i get it

[heady cypress]

How do you play lucifer

[marsh rivet]

Triple Bomb and prayers

[pure karma]

You press the fire button

[heady cypress]

:(

[lunar orchid]

heh

just keep spamming orbs around

and dashing into them making pew

[marsh rivet]

Anyways, re: mods, you can find out a lot more in either the speedrun discord or the modding discord

[lunar orchid]

deflecting special is fun

[pure karma]

You get flash fire and triple bomb and build for zeus/aphro so you can get smoldering air and ignore lucifer

[lunar orchid]

or splashy lightning

[heady cypress]

That is making them go boom too?

[lunar orchid]

ya

whats smoldering air?

[pure karma]

I cannot find that mod on nexus

[heady cypress]

Can't do it on skelly do I need a hammer or a boon for that?

[marsh rivet]

They won't be on nexus, likely. You'll have to ask people for links

[mint coral]

dash that does damage

[lunar orchid]

ya you need an upgraded dash of some sort tsukasa

[marsh rivet]

The bowbeam one in particular is like, the teeny tiniest mod that I think @pulsar crater made or at the very least I got it from him.

[heady cypress]

Oh it's a daddy cast? (in a way)

[pure karma]

Huh?

[heady cypress]

Daddy cast explodes/creates a Shockwave when you don't destroy it, luficer special does the opposite

[lunar orchid]

bowbeam?

daddy cast?

[heady cypress]

Luficer?

[marsh rivet]

It's a half finished bow aspect left behind the code lol. Shoots laser beams for a primary fire and like... a cluster straight line mortar volley thing on special. Very fun and memey

[heady cypress]

That's the skull thing

Isn't it

[lunar orchid]

skull thing?

[heady cypress]

The cast dad uses

To create shockwaves

It also gives you a debuff when you get hit

[marsh rivet]

Extra daddy damage

[reef zodiac]

Boiling blood?

[mint coral]

got the 3rd hermes to hope for either rush delivery or bad news
got offered both

[reef zodiac]

Love to see it

[mint coral]

took RD bc it was rare

[reef zodiac]

What weapon?

[mint coral]

Trippy beo

[reef zodiac]

Oh I love trippy Beo

[thorny mirage]

beowulf is trippin

[reef zodiac]

It’s one of my favorite meme builds (yes I know it’s also amazing for highrolling in speedruns)

[heady cypress]

I just figured out that the zag in Greek mythology was op he was basically a transformer with the ability to become any animal

[brisk trail]

Imagine that ingame

[mint coral]

get insta phased dad lets gooo

[fast willow]

also btw not to clog up the victory channel if i use dark foresight i wont get as much darkness to upgrade the rest of my mirror right @reef zodiac

[reef zodiac]

Worth

[pure karma]

I like how there is a mod that is straight up 100x damage

[lunar orchid]

lol

[reef zodiac]

Dark Foresight is so insanely good it’s actually unbelievable

[mint coral]

most of your darkness will come from killing bosses again tbh

[marsh rivet]

Huh... Actually I'm not sure, how easy is it to actually get the RD bonus on Beo casts?

[reef zodiac]

I would have taken Bad News personally

[heady cypress]

"becomes skelly and respawns 5 times during an em4 fight"

[fast willow]

i just usually move on to the next heat when i beat the previous one so i dont get those since its blood and stuff first time

[brisk trail]

Here random question
Does rejected shades become the foes in Hades?

[marsh rivet]

If you dash strike after released the dragon rush I assume that probably counts but not sure

[mint coral]

yup that counts

[thorny mirage]

ehhh, any god could do that

[reef zodiac]

I just want to be EM3 Asterius

[heady cypress]

Oh didn't sound like that on Wikipedia good to know

[brisk trail]

imagine a mod that can turn you into any character ingame

[heady cypress]

But I'd also like to know W H Y imagine an assembly of the gods where they just try out new forms lmao

[twin thistle]

darkness rooms give pretty pitiful amounts. a lot of darkness can be earned by stacking chaos/poseidon darkness/gem boons then defeating bosses on low heat/doing darkness troves

[marsh rivet]

Most of your darkness will come from bounties once you get the Contractor upgrade for that, and converting extra Ambrosia into 500 darkness at the Broker

[thorny mirage]

Darkness rooms kinda suck

[marsh rivet]

Darkness rooms are worthless

[reef zodiac]

10 darkness

[brisk trail]

noice

[fast willow]

wait what contractor upgrade

[marsh rivet]

Oh nvm I might be thinking of the contactor upgrade that gives you gems as well

[jade zenith]

the contractor upgrade gives you gems, not darkness

[heady cypress]

Oh mb

[jade zenith]

darkness is only for if you aren't doing your bounties

[marsh rivet]

Or if you finish them

[fast willow]

im quite far from finishing them lol

[reef zodiac]

Also always catch Chaos fish if you need darkness

[fast willow]

im only upto 3 heat

[twin thistle]

you can just do a 0 heat run

[fast willow]

ive only seen fish in chaos 1 time

[marsh rivet]

But yeah if you want to grind for Unseen One you're best off completing the Rail bounties then doing Eris speedruns with Poseidon start lol

[lunar orchid]

i forgot i had god mode on hehe

i cant even get sub ten with god mode on

[reef zodiac]

Really? I see them all the time

[marsh rivet]

It's like 1/10 or something so they actually are pretty rare

[twin thistle]

rng

[reef zodiac]

God mode shouldn’t really affect your speed

[mint coral]

chaos fish are a myth

[reef zodiac]

That’s not that rare that’s like one every 5 runs. That’s like 3 a day

[marsh rivet]

I like that if you try to zoomie through the Chaos room fast enough you can pick a boon, then a door, then hear the fish ding noise as you leave

[pure karma]

I have all the Chaos fish. I am only missing the rare one one the surface.

[reef zodiac]

Yeah I rarely actually bother to catch Chaos fish lol

[jade zenith]

well that is assuming you actually take chaos every time

and you might not even get chaos every run, let alone twice

[twin thistle]

when you go into the next chanber and see the fish as you leave

[jade zenith]

there isn't that much of a requirement to take chaos when you aren't under tight deadline

[mint coral]

or that one gold pot that is definitively gonna haunt you when you miss 10 gold for a boon

[marsh rivet]

If you're on a crit build or whatever Chaos has a huge upside

[heady cypress]

Does merciful end work well with infinite lucifer beams?

[twin thistle]

nah?

[pure karma]

Or cast build

[marsh rivet]

Not... really? You're still capped on your Divine Dashes lol

[heady cypress]

But I just took the infinite beam idk what to do now-

[twin thistle]

uh

[pure karma]

Build zeus

[twin thistle]

get that boom that increases stacked doom damage

[heady cypress]

Perfect

I still need 2 of his duoboons

[marsh rivet]

Yeah you want Dire Misfortune to complete the meme dream

Keep in mind that Triple Beam doesn't shotgun because Lucifer is awful

[reef zodiac]

Wait why would someone not take chaos 19 out of 20 times?

Chaos is really good

[mint coral]

memes mostly ig

[reef zodiac]

But Chaos is so good for memes

[marsh rivet]

It does damage, it isn't a boon or heart or whatever, if you don't have rerolls it can be incredibly risky

[reef zodiac]

Eh

[marsh rivet]

Asphodel Chaos rooms in particular are pretty likely to leave you facing lernie with -dash or -move speed, which is probably a death sentence

[reef zodiac]

I pretty much always take Chaos except for some very specific situations (like Patroclus in a high heat run)

[marsh rivet]

Your opinion is stilted by TD3 lol

[reef zodiac]

Or Eris. Eris doesn’t need Chaos

[reef zodiac]

Nah time is rarely an issue for me

[heady cypress]

I did em2 Learnie without my normal attack(lucifer)

Barely made it

[pure karma]

Normal Lucifer attack sucks so not a huge thing

[heady cypress]

How do you use it properly then

[reef zodiac]

👩‍🏫 Learnie

[marsh rivet]

I mean I take Chaos a lot but I'm not taking it over a good boon, or if it's on chamber 12/22/34

[jade zenith]

if there wasn't any TD then there would definitely be situations where I would take a high priority god over chaos

[heady cypress]

I can't use the explosions cuz I'm always missing the special

[pure karma]

You hope for triple bomb, build zeus, hope for flash fire etc

[heady cypress]

Oh bruh

[marsh rivet]

Nvm, 12 chaos is free. 22 and 34 are liabilities lol

[reef zodiac]

2 12 chaos

[obtuse whale]

what are some good pact options except for deadline, traps

[mint coral]

decided to test hunter flare and god, the pom scaling is painful

lvl 7 rare boon and is only 160 dmg

[obtuse whale]

Ive been using jury summons and hard labor for my heat

(Im in early game so its for bounties)

[reef zodiac]

Jury Summons

[marsh rivet]

Middle Management and the first rank of Benefits Package make the game more fun without being... overwhelmingly more difficult

Same with EM2

[reef zodiac]

Middle Management, EM1&2, Underworld Customs, Benefits Package

[obtuse whale]

Was it a bad idea 💀

[reef zodiac]

Jury Summons sucks

It just makes rooms drag on

And are a lot more annoying

[obtuse whale]

Oooh package

[mint coral]

alone is not thatttt bad
once you start combining with other pacts is just pure pain

[marsh rivet]

It's one of the harder pacts, for sure, but it's not insanely noticeable until you start stacking FO2, BP2 that kind of thing

[reef zodiac]

I don’t do JS until 37 heat

[obtuse whale]

EM?? I thought the EMs made the game significantly harder

[reef zodiac]

Eh

[marsh rivet]

EM3 and 4 are extremely difficult yes

[reef zodiac]

Mainly just EM4

[marsh rivet]

But 1 and 2 are whatever

[obtuse whale]

Oh

[reef zodiac]

EM3 isn’t that bad tbh, just requires practice

[marsh rivet]

EM3 is actually more or less okay until you turn on FO2

That's usually one of the biggest early walls for heat pushers

[mint coral]

fo2 is scary in general

[reef zodiac]

I did HL3 FO2 EM3 for my first 32 heat runs

Like a fool

And kept dying to Champions and acting like there was nothing I could do about that

[marsh rivet]

Yeah EM3 FO2 is incredibly frustrating for a lot of people

[twin thistle]

asterius bullrushes

[marsh rivet]

Also depends on aspect. Hestia, Chiron, shields can kinda yoloswag it

[twin thistle]

also theseus smacking into you with his chariot while youre tryna avoid asterius

[marsh rivet]

Theseus simps for acorn charges

[twin thistle]

yep...

[marsh rivet]

It's pretty hard to deterministically avoid, which is why I tend to use Acorn charges aggressively to get free DPS time on Bull-sempai when he's charging

[twin thistle]

theseus on chariot is more annoying to me than non em3 cuz he always steals those acorn charges

[marsh rivet]

I die... an embarassing amount of time to losing patience on solo chariot-less Theseus

[reef zodiac]

Champions are free on Beowulf tbh

[zealous tapir]

Elysium Heroes are my least favourite part of runs tbh

Asterius can pull janky moves sometimes, leaping half the distance or swinging with no animation

[marsh rivet]

I like the heroes fight. It's chaotic but manageable

[reef zodiac]

I love the champions fight, especially EM3. Probably my second or third favorite fight in the game

[zealous tapir]

Theseus is just annoying with his shield, and some of the god-assistances are bs

especially Demeter

[twin thistle]

thats why you always insta kill him

[zealous tapir]

Aphro call is rad, yes

[reef zodiac]

I can’t decide if I find normal Hades or EM4 more fun. If it’s a casual low heat run I always do EM4 because normal Hades is too easy and is over too quickly. But for high heat runs EM4 is the bane of my existence because he just kills me out of nowhere for no reason

[twin thistle]

fo2 hl5 em4 dad with sd is fun

[reef zodiac]

I lost five 50 heat runs to that fight in one day

On Beowulf

Although tbf it was charged shot Beowulf

aka best Beo

[mint coral]

lvl 10 heroic hunter flare and is only 194 dmg

[reef zodiac]

Yeah Hunter flare is really bad

Same with icy and phalanx flare

Thunder and slicing are also bad but in a different way

[mint coral]

thunder at least is fun (kinda)

[reef zodiac]

Eh

It just feels bad to play tbh

No big AOE, just little low damage bolts

Can blade rifts crit?

Or crystal beams?

[lunar orchid]

what hunter flair is beasty

especially if you upgrade your crit chance

[reef zodiac]

No

Also you can’t upgrade your crit chance

[lunar orchid]

especially with the sword that makes the stones pop out

mix that with exit wounds

[reef zodiac]

HUNTER FLARE

Flare

[lunar orchid]

idkw hat that is

[reef zodiac]

Beowulf

[lunar orchid]

i thought you were talking about the cast

[heady cypress]

Is there still a channel to report typos(saw one on this discord)

[reef zodiac]

Nah I don’t think so

[reef zodiac]

The cast, yes. For Beowulf

Hunter flare

[heady cypress]

The German version has a couple of typos but I never thought about reporting them

[reef zodiac]

You’re thinking of True Shot

[mint coral]

yes to both

[reef zodiac]

Ok cool

Pressure Points is such a neat boon

[mint coral]

only things that dont crit are maim/explosive return/shared suffering

[heady cypress]

Just bought a key hoping it would give me a reroll

Got disappointed

[reef zodiac]

Yeah doesn’t work like that

[reef zodiac]

And shared suffering still benefits from crits so it wouldn’t even make sense if it could crit

[lunar orchid]

i wish the demeter dash would freeze the lava infront of you

stupid lava

[mint coral]

just play arthur sword

[reef zodiac]

I was gonna say that

[mint coral]

random but has anyone else playing beo has gotten a bug were you cant interact? (like picking door rewards/go to next chamber) until you pick up your cast again

[heady cypress]

Help my keepsake is broken

[reef zodiac]

How

[heady cypress]

Used Athenas keepsake in asphodel and didn't get her

[reef zodiac]

Is there still a 1 under it?

[heady cypress]

Yup

Its still working

[reef zodiac]

Did you take any boon doors?

[heady cypress]

I was just complaining about the rng

[heady cypress]

Yes iirc

[mint coral]

i swear is always aspho the one that manages to make you skip your keepsake god

[heady cypress]

Btw i also got 3 or 4 hearts in a row in tartarus( I already have 240hp lol)

[reef zodiac]

Ok then it’s bugged. Because I’m pretty sure it’s possible to take a god keepsake and then just not get any boon doors, but your first boon door (beside Hermes) should be that god

[heady cypress]

I guess I just have to accept it

[reef zodiac]

Did you just take multiple Chaos doors?

[heady cypress]

1

[reef zodiac]

Yeah idk

If you took an Olympian boon door that wasn’t Hermes, then it’s a bug. If not, then it’s just bad luck

[mint coral]

hunter flare run finished "not bad, you just need to get every boon to make it work"

im never running this one again ww

[reef zodiac]

Yeah it’s bad and uninteresting

[heady cypress]

Accidentally skipped a chest and chaos for Obolus

[reef zodiac]

What’s a “chest”?

[heady cypress]

The infernal chests

[marsh rivet]

The Troves

[heady cypress]

Ig thats the English name

[reef zodiac]

Those are almost always useless anyway

[marsh rivet]

People don't check them enough

If you have spare time, it's like a hundred gold sometimes

[heady cypress]

The time challenges/your main darkness source while doing your bounties

[reef zodiac]

I’ll occasionally take it if it’s gold

[marsh rivet]

Or if you're on casual/practice runs, it could be a ton of darkness too

[reef zodiac]

I guess

[marsh rivet]

Also galaxy brain strats where you use troves to refresh your SD before leaving for the next room lol (didn't know you could leave the room during a Trove encounter)

Until fairly recently lol

[reef zodiac]

Yeah I do that sometimes

It’s good to have a trove or an egg in Elysium so I don’t have to worry about my SD

[marsh rivet]

Lol, EM4 runs be like, "Do I take Epic Sure Footing in Asphodel because of urns, or not because I'd like to be able to actually get DDs in Elysium"

[reef zodiac]

Pfft 10 seconds is not a big deal

Assuming you have HS

Without HS, then yeah it’s just not gonna happen

That’s like 2 damage per trap

[heady cypress]

The game hates me I'm going for the athena/Zeus boon

Athena, Zeus, athena/Zeus

[reef zodiac]

Any build that wants lightning phalanx doesn’t need lightning phalanx

[heady cypress]

Got 4 chances in a row

[reef zodiac]

You’ll be fine

LP is pretty decent but it’s never necessary

[heady cypress]

Didn't get it and I have the choice between zeus' legendary, his call and big bolts

[reef zodiac]

Zeus legendary best legendary

[heady cypress]

Oh

Lol it really is

Didn't Read it

[marsh rivet]

It's not particularly close lol

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

[heady cypress]

But i want the duo for the prophecy

[reef zodiac]

What’s second place? Artemis? Demeter?

Dionysus?

[marsh rivet]

Artemis would be if it were actually possible to get

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

[lunar orchid]

ooo i got some crazy lightning going on

[marsh rivet]

But I would personally put Unhealthy Fixation second because it's easy to get and does enough, depending on build

[mint coral]

is possible, just dont make a cast build lmao

[marsh rivet]

Yeah that's true, then it's guaranteed

[reef zodiac]

Nah I don’t like that boon at all

It often will mess me up much more than help

[marsh rivet]

Yeah I could see that, I don't think I've run into that issue personally though.

Shrug, they're all pretty meh. Artemis definitely second by power level

[trail wedge]

Hey y'all 👋 I'm new here. I've put about 50ish hours into the game and am enjoying it immensely. I do have a question that I hope the community can help with.

In the Armaments room are those 3 spots to the west of the exit door meant for anything in particular?

[mint coral]

huge catch best legendary

[reef zodiac]

I mean it does almost nothing in normal rooms and is an active hinderance in bossfights

I guess Bad News

[marsh rivet]

I like it a lot in boss fights. Resets their current animations.

[reef zodiac]

They can just do attacks with no windup

Especially Hades

[marsh rivet]

Yes, you'll find out what they do if you just keep adding heat and playing the game normally :3

[reef zodiac]

And Asterius will just keep spinning for the entire fight if you charm him each time, so you literally have to stop attacking him

[lunar orchid]

yea they do

you gotta earn em

[reef zodiac]

Charm is kinda terrible in this game imo

[heady cypress]

Idk why you don't like lucifers attack

[reef zodiac]

Even smoldering aphro call is kinda meh

[marsh rivet]

I really haven't run into your issues with it lol, though I know that each of them is technically possible

The only reason aphro call is meh is because other calls exist

[reef zodiac]

Hades does spins with no windup all the time with UH

[marsh rivet]

It's actually pretty good

[reef zodiac]

I don’t agree

[heady cypress]

My dps is so high That I almost killed theseus by accident while asterius was still alive

[marsh rivet]

It appears we're at an impasse then :3

[trail wedge]

Is it possible to elaborate further? I don't mind spoilers and I would like to know what I should be aiming for.

[marsh rivet]

8, 16, 32 heat

[lunar orchid]

its cosmetic

just trophies

[marsh rivet]

They're basically in game achievements

[trail wedge]

Ahh. Alright then. Thank you guys! Much appreciated!

[craggy pumice]

ive never gotten athena legendary

[reef zodiac]

Oh I forgot about Divine Protection

[craggy pumice]

am i right in thinking its basically a one use acorn on a 20 second cooldown?

[reef zodiac]

That boon is quite good, but it falls off at high heat

[craggy pumice]

sounds pretty strong vs hades

[marsh rivet]

Wuh, lol, hard disagree, it's insane at high heat

[reef zodiac]

When you have to clear room very quickly and use SD

It’s great for EM4

[marsh rivet]

Even if you use it exactly once each room, you're getting free acorn charges

And Acorn is already the best defensive keepsake

[reef zodiac]

Yeah but I use my SD anyway

Eh I could be wrong

[marsh rivet]

It's free. I'd take DDs over Divine Protection but basically nothing else

[reef zodiac]

Alright fair

Is that the real second best legendary?

[marsh rivet]

I forgot it existed lol, yeah I think so, by a lot

[reef zodiac]

I forgot too

[marsh rivet]

Hermes good for casters but it's impossible to get without Plume lmao

[reef zodiac]

It’s not that hard with God’s Legacy and Styx Hermes

I mean 11% chance is still quite low actually

[marsh rivet]

Yeah, but e.g. you're not going to roll off of Greatest Reflexes or Hyper Sprint at high heat even with a cast build, so your odds of getting the pre-req are lower than normal

[reef zodiac]

But without God’s Legacy you’re just not gonna get it

Well without yarn or nectar

Those make it possible

[marsh rivet]

I still don't think I have Dio's on my hell mode save lol... Requiring Trippy Shot is so brutal

[reef zodiac]

Yeah but it’s 60% global damage

It’s good for specifically trippy shot builds that randomly have a hangover source

[marsh rivet]

Provided they stay within the Trippy Shot :\ It's a good legendary, but yeah not many builds would actually like to sacrifice Boiling Blood for it

[white merlin]

Quick question

Is there an achievement for maxing all keepsakes and companions,?

[marsh rivet]

Is the satisfaction of having given your friends and family your companionship and support not enough?

(I don't actually know, I'm like 900 hours in my Steam save and I still don't have all the achievements)

This is out of lack of effort, not difficulty lol. SGG pretty generous

[heady cypress]

The first three fish in the codex are from Chaos right?

[marsh rivet]

free fish?

[heady cypress]

Excuse me

My brain

It hurts

Read it again

[marsh rivet]

:3. I don't remember. If you have empty spots it's likely Chaos, or ||Greece||

[heady cypress]

||Nah I have the ones in greece ||

Except for the rare one

Should i sell the legendary of Zeus for the achievement ? I'm somewhat sure That I can beat daddy without it

[mint coral]

why not

[mint coral]

checked and yeah, chaos fish are the first 3

[heady cypress]

Thanks

[heady cypress]

Because it's fun to use it?

[stable dagger]

Daily reminder Artemis is best girl

and should have wife dlc

[heady cypress]

Thanks

I agree

[heady cypress]

Decided to not sell it and got one of hermes legendary boons:3 I can sell that one now

[stable dagger]

Supergiant needs to step up and make a dating game

I also loved the Massive demon woman in pyre

[heady cypress]

I'll buy pyre now

Idek the game I just saw a channel with that Name im assuming that's another supergiant game?

[mint coral]

yup

<- this dude come from pyre

[marsh rivet]

The colors of names here also typically correspond to which of the SGG games you've played

Yellow is all of them

[stable dagger]

She is the besssst

pyre gameplay kind of eh though

not bad but is not very intersting other then the important bits

[mint coral]

wizard basketball is fun, and the story is top tier

[marsh rivet]

Narrative heavy magical basketball was such a bold choice though. I commend them for trying.

[stable dagger]

it sure was not bad

just experimental

[marsh rivet]

But yeah it's my least favorite by a lot. The story is great but the gameplay was less gripping than I expected

Music is amazing too obviously

[stable dagger]

worst super giant game is stil like a 7/10 to me lmao

I can never decide between whether I think transistor or pyre are the worst

since the story in transistor takes a weird back seat even though it is very intersting

[marsh rivet]

Lol yeah not even coming close to saying Pyre is bad.

I think Transistor's main problem for me is that it didn't really leave me... caring about any of the side characters

[stable dagger]

Yeah it had so much potential but it did like nothing with it

other then the music being imo the best theyve ever made

[marsh rivet]

"Best" is a weird concept when you're comparing like 9.8/10, 10/10, 9.9/10, and 9.7 lol

All 4 soundtracks are kind of like... perfect honestly

[heady cypress]

Did anyone record a true meme beam run with infinite lucifer X op meme beam?

[marsh rivet]

meme beam usually refers to Crystal Beam. lucifer meme beam usually called Super Soaker lol

unless you're referring to a different meme. Lucy not lacking for memes

Arctic Blast, Dire Misfortune, Hangover...

(lol, low key, crit attack is also kind of a meme on Lucifer, hot take)

[heady cypress]

I was playing that tho-

Basically full Zeus with some artemis the rest wasn't that important iirc

[marsh rivet]

that's probably the least memey possible build on Lucy :3

[heady cypress]

Good to know

But the infinite beam really was a meme

Didn't have the meme beam tho was using the athena cast

[marsh rivet]

I mean, you're not wrong. Eternal Chamber is definitely a meme hammer. It's nice to turn your brain off and BZZZZT but as long as Eternal Chamber is running you don't have iframes on dashes and you still have to deal with Lucifer's ungodly long startup animation (I like Flash Fire a lot more because of this)

[heady cypress]

Oh so that's why dashing in attacks was a bad idea lol

[gray apex]

Imagine needing iframes anyway

[heady cypress]

Almost died to dad due to that and I also forgot to use Meg lol

[marsh rivet]

Lol, Lucy needs all the help it can get. Can't do anything about projectiles on that aspect. Even if you get divine strike, the deflect box is literally just on the gun, not the laser

(not that you'd want divine strike anyway lol, but it's still funny)

[gray apex]

Lucifer is good for memeing

[marsh rivet]

Triple Bomb is legitimately good

And... that's about all the nice things I have to say

[heady cypress]

Imagine an infinite deflecting laser lol

Rip theseus

[mint coral]

how well would lucy with aphro attack + her legendary

[gray apex]

I'm gonna do a Lucifer run

Been a while