Keep giving nectar to him
#h1-discussion
raw herald
reef zodiac
How about Rip Current Smoldering Air 
heady cypress
Keep giving nectar to him
?
high island
The new Monthly Challenge. 
heady cypress
Never saw him there
reef zodiac
The new Monthly Challenge. <:zfiestPlot:858484676218060811>
Which is? The most recent one seems to be from July
raw herald
I was never pinged
high island
Probably tomorrow.
signal aspen
poggies
reef zodiac
Wym
raw herald
Hades September challenge: beat tight deadline 3 with 15 minutes left on the clock
high island
signal aspen
just route your run lmao
raw herald
Once that mod comes out where you can customise every chamber, I would
reef zodiac
Even routed I’d imagine that takes a pretty good player
high island
WR is sub 3 lol.
reef zodiac
But isn’t routing a run very difficult?
heady cypress
Em4 daddy has 3 health bars right?
signal aspen
yes
heady cypress
dies inside
reef zodiac
Just to check something, are you doing EM4 for fun or become you think it’s a good option for whatever heat you’re at?
high island
Does he have three health bars... or does he have one health bar that he replenishes?
You decide.
heady cypress
Just to check something, are you doing EM4 for fun or become you think it’s a go...
It's a terrible option no matter where I am at least thats how it feels
heady cypress
Did a 10heat run so only em4
slim grail
anyone try the nuzlocke challenge on hades?
reef zodiac
It’s kinda fun at low heat though
signal aspen
how do you do a nuzlocke on hades?
slim grail
how do you do a nuzlocke on hades?
stick to one weapon
signal aspen
oh thats it?
signal aspen
interesting
void vigil
that seems almost impossible without modding since the game throws all kinds of boons at you, but interesting for sure
maybe possible in a fresh file run? you could get all athena or something
reef zodiac
Fresh file is hard enough 
I’ve done at least 50 fresh file attempts and only one has made it to Hades
signal aspen
no
crystal jackal
but you can just go through the door without taking the boon
lol no
heady cypress
I have enough titan blood to buy 2 hidden aspects which ones should I get(or which one should I ignore lol)
Malphon
Varatha
Stygius
oak gull
Depends on what you find fun.
oak gull
fast moving, fast strikes, yeah?
heady cypress
Yes
oak gull
I'd go with fists or gun, then.
high island
You can buy one, test it on Skelly, quit, reload, and buy another one to try it out.
oak gull
That, too.
heady cypress
I'd go with fists or gun, then.
Can't buy the gun
high island
Just don't exit the room after you buy an aspect.
oak gull
I do think you need all three aspects to have a chance at the fourth.
high island
The game saves between chambers.
heady cypress
Interesting
I'll go with stygius malphon then cuz I think I did that with guan yu without knowing
Didn't like it
high island
Keep in mind that 2 Titan Blood aren't too hard to get. You just need to do one run on the next Heat for any aspect.
heady cypress
Aspect?
high island
Weapon, my bad.
high island
In fact, you don't even need to win a run. You can just beat bosses 1 and 3 and if you die after that, you can trade in 1 Ambrosia for 1 Titan Blood.
heady cypress
I should consider doing that
raw herald
62 heat unseeded was just completed
heady cypress
Cuz I have 6 ambrosia but nobody who wants them
heady cypress
62 heat unseeded was just completed
?
high island
By whom?
heady cypress
signal aspen
ykc
high island
Nice.
raw herald
Only missing UC
high island
ykc did RI4 at 62 Heat?
raw herald
No lol
high island
But you said only UC was missing.
signal aspen
high island
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/889178370707968080/unk...
Well done, Muck.
shrewd hatch
that is truly inspiring 
high island
Cuz I have 6 ambrosia but nobody who wants them
Yeah, and by the time you need a lot of Ambrosia, you probably don't need a lot of Nectar anymore.
shrewd hatch
Yeah, and by the time you need a lot of Ambrosia, you probably don't need a lot ...
but Bouldy 
signal aspen
you should always have some nectar for bouldy
heady cypress
Yeah, and by the time you need a lot of Ambrosia, you probably don't need a lot ...
I need a ton of nectar but I still don't give it to anyone in case I see rare npcs
Like Thanatos bouldy or pat
What is Arthur's special doing btw
wise oasis
That and also gives you damage resist
signal aspen
disables ground traps, gives you damage resistance, slows projectiles and enemies
prime lantern
speaking of bouldy, what is ambiguity bonus?
signal aspen
bonus ambiguity
high island
Also lets you walk on magma.
prime lantern
bonus ambiguity
oh
high island
speaking of bouldy, what is ambiguity bonus?
||Nothing||.
crystal jackal
lol
heady cypress
disables ground traps, gives you damage resistance, slows projectiles and enemie...
So it's good?
crystal jackal
yes
signal aspen
yeah its pretty good
prime lantern
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/889178370707968080/unk...
which aspect would that be?
signal aspen
zeus
prime lantern
did they use TD?
signal aspen
everything except for ri is maxed
prime lantern
but it was 20 min
wise oasis
You take 5 damage per second when you run out of time
lone kernel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/889178370707968080/unk...
Based
void vigil
oh wow :0 is that seeded or unseeded?
high island
Unseeded.
wise oasis
Would 63 be possible with lc3? Or is that probably the highest it'll get for a long time
prime lantern
lc3 is sacrilege don't you know?
wise oasis
Well with no stubborn defiance lc4 is super punishing
reef zodiac
Wait someone just did 62 unseeded?
mint coral
Ye
pure karma
Someone said 64 unseeded is impossible. That true?
candid obsidian
Is that wr
signal aspen
Yes
high island
It's both extremely difficult and requires a lot of luck, but it's not impossible.
candid obsidian
Zeus shield?
signal aspen
Yeah
pure karma
Should I start skipping heat? Or will I lose too many bounties?
Should I start skipping heat? Or will I lose too many bounties?
signal aspen
You won't lose any bounties
pure karma
wonder which level should I skip too
I have no max aspects, guess I should max one first
reef zodiac
Someone said 64 unseeded is impossible. That true?
I mean probably not impossible, but you’d probably need RNG on par with a seeded run, which is kinda inconceivable
lone kernel
Should I start skipping heat? Or will I lose too many bounties?
If you’re winning 10ish in a blowout fashion, going up to 15 or so would make it more sweaty and probably more fun and less grindy. Bounties work as follows; get a clear, heat quota for more +1, and if you go way higher than necessary it’ll backfill (so if you’re at 11 for bounties and do 20, those bounties fill out the ones at 11)
lone kernel
Someone said 64 unseeded is impossible. That true?
Not impossible, but I may win the lotto today too
prime lantern
Should I start skipping heat? Or will I lose too many bounties?
after 20 heat you dont get more bounties per weapon, and you would have somewhat enough exp to expect what comes at higher heat
dusky wedge
If I’m using Dio attack on Eris, and I activate Eris damage buff, only subsequent Hangover stacks are going to be affected by the buff, right? Or does the buff immediately affects current stacks as well?
split owl
Wow. That was insane.
I just beat Charon in under 2 minutes without getting hit a single time.
reef zodiac
Under 2 minutes? Hitless is hype, but how could it not be under two minutes?
It would honestly be hard to take more than two minutes in the fight
lone kernel
Wow. That was insane.
I just beat Charon in under 2 minutes without getting hit...
based
lone kernel
Zagreus just told me I won't get any bounties faster with this extra heat
You won’t but if you haven’t gotten all the bounties you’ll still get one of each for this run. It’ll just mark off 11 heat as complete rather than 20 you’re doing (pretending you’ve gotten to 10 and you’re doing 20 now just to make the math easy)
pure karma
But I had 10 heat
reef zodiac
Ohh
lone kernel
Yeah so if you beat 20, game records it as 11 for purpose of bounties
reef zodiac
Well we’ve also been over that
lone kernel
And if you do 20 again you’ll get fresh bounties
reef zodiac
You can’t get 2 bounties by increasing the heat by 2
pure karma
ok then
lone kernel
Lmk if that doesn’t make sense
pure karma
What I wanted to know is if I will get a bunch of bounties from previous heat levels, Which wont happen if I understand correctly
Like if I go 10 heat, and I have cleared none, I wont get 10 bloods from tartarus
or smth like that
lone kernel
You will not get more than one blood per boss fight
In that case game will record it as you’ve gotten the bounties for 0 heat and next time you’ll need 1+ for bounties
reef zodiac
Like if I go 10 heat, and I have cleared none, I wont get 10 bloods from tartaru...
God no. That would break the game’s progression system completely
lone kernel
So if you do 10 twice and win both times, two full sets of bounties
pure karma
So the best course is to do bounties one by one?
reef zodiac
Sure if you want the easiest time
lone kernel
So the best course is to do bounties one by one?
Theoretically yes. But if you’re stringing together blowout wins on single digit heat, you can raise the challenge level for yourself
split owl
I thought for sure I'd make it right to the end of the Hades fight without getting hit. I was sooooo close - He didn't hit me a single time until he fired off his huge fire attack halfway through phase 2.
turbid hull
Someone could help me with something, I want to do the || epilogue || but I don't have any idea of how do it
split owl
Someone could help me with something, I want to do the || epilogue || but I don'...
The simple answer is - Get six Gods (Not Demeter) to full affinity, by gifting them Nectar whenever you see them.
reef zodiac
Just gift to each god
turbid hull
The simple answer is - Get six Gods (Not Demeter) to full affinity, by gifting t...
Just that?
reef zodiac
Basically do exactly what Persephone told you to do. It’s not a hidden ending
void vigil
demeter does count if you get her to the lock
split owl
You need to get them all to full affinity and then some of them have a special quest you need to complete (I believe) before it allows you to fully unlock the Epilogue (unless the quests are seperate), I'm not sure, since I haven't actually gotten there. I just googled spoilers.
turbid hull
Ok, I think I'll try what you guys said
split owl
Interesting tidbit: When you get Hermes' quest to win against Charon twice in a row, it remembers your last battle against him and counts the quest.
turbid hull
Man, I've never won charon, and he wants me to do it twice in row, I'm screwed
reef zodiac
Charon isn’t that bad, especially if you fight him in Elysium
Tartarus Charon can be kinda rough though, since you have so few upgrades
turbid hull
Well, I just need to wait to battle with Charon in Elysium
split owl
Having Artemis's ability that shoots an arrow whenever you attack is great for the fight, imo.
reef zodiac
Having Artemis's ability that shoots an arrow whenever you attack is great for t...
Why specifically support fire? I don’t see why it would be better for Charon than for anything else
split owl
I mean, it's just great all around, but I found it helped with the Charon fight.
reef zodiac
Support Fire is a decent boon for some builds
But like
I see no reason that it’s specifically good for Charon
That just sounds super anecdotal
forest falcon
It's good with rail all around i think
reef zodiac
Sure
But it’s not specifically good for Charon
Just feels like a really weird tip to give someone who’s struggling with the fight
oak gull
support fire with rail or fists is good
reef zodiac
Yeah nobody disagreed with that
lone kernel
Man, I've never won charon, and he wants me to do it twice in row, I'm screwed
If you pass on a Charon fight it won’t count that against you. Pick your spots, don’t take a fight you don’t think you’ll win
chrome wharf
and the game doesn't save your death until the death animation fully plays out, so you can quickly pause and give up if you die
oak gull
What works well depends on what you are running weapon, boon and god-wise. Charon likes to stand still for long periods of time doing his schtick. Summoning those waves, etc. Something like the rail's special with +4 bombs at close range helps. Launching 3 festive fogs at him from afar helps.
turbid hull
and the game doesn't save your death until the death animation fully plays out, ...
I didn't knew that, thanks
chrome wharf
yeah I just found out 2 days ago too
oak gull
You want to focus on not getting hit and bursting him down in windows of opportunity. Or keep chipping away at him from a distance.
Alternatively, you can man-mode him and feel him out, so you can stay close and dodge every attack. He doesn't really switch it up and his tells are obvious.
reef zodiac
“Man mode him and feel him out”
oak gull
get in close, know his patterns, dodge when he strikes and keep hitting when he doesn't
pure karma
Does anything change to a keepsake when you bond with someone? 2 of my keepsakes have a little badge but I can't tell if it's just cosmetic or not
reef zodiac
It’s cosmetic
pure karma
ty
oak gull
Cosmetic, afaik.
high island
You need to forge a bond with Lady Aphrodite and also get the Disciple of Aphrodite run clear message to get the true ending.
lone kernel
I just watched the hades mythology three hour video this weekend, aphro kinda sus starting wars and such
lone kernel
low cradle
Struggling to unlock Sisyphus' companion. Had no dialogue from Nyx at all for the last 5 or 6 runs
No idea what I'm doing wrong
high island
Just do more runs, talk to everyone with a !, keep gifting Nectar.
lone kernel
I think you need to buy something from the contractor idr
lone kernel
if you still get a pb w the barge it would be pretty based
brisk trail
Who's the person who begs for flame wheels release?
reef zodiac
if you still get a pb w the barge it would be pretty based
My 7:30 PB got barge
lone kernel
Based
neat stag
Working on maxing out my keepsakes, and about to try out Shattered Shackle. Any recommended weapons and/or builds? I know I can’t get boons for Attack, Special, or Cast.
twin thistle
well you can just ignore having on shackle
if you get a good boon for attack just slap it on
split owl
Someone mentioned before that people refer to Chaos as "they" and it was because it's non gender specific, is the answer they were given.
I just had a conversation with Nyx - Chaos is her mother and father, so it goes to reason they'd be called "they".
modern garnet
Eh, other people in Greek myth have only 1 parent and that's got nothing to do with the parent's gender
I wanna say some stuff about how chaos is older than gender or whatever
twin thistle
when zeus made a baby from his calf
modern garnet
But the truth is some people don't fit in the gender binary and we shouldn't have to justify that with lore
high island
I was about to say. Master Chaos's pronouns are they/them because that's their pronouns.
If somebody tells you their pronouns are she/her, you don't ask why.
lone kernel
chaos made me noticeably better at not blowing they them pronouns as much ngl
raven thicket
i was super happy to see chaos having they/them pronouns (as a non-binary person)
lone kernel
The game as a whole does such a good job like, “being woke” for lack of a better word
Don’t ask dusa about being a head
Achilles and Patroclus no longer need subtle hints of being gay that get omitted from the modern stories they’re just gay (when patty asked how could he repay me I’m like he’s already done so but show up every run plz)
Like I found out Achilles was gay from this game, and I read a bunch of mythology stuff when I was younger (but almost always the simplified ones)
Serious shoutout to supergiant for like, opening my mind
earnest storm
Hello! I just want to say that I love this game sooo much but Ive died 50 times and I still haven't managed to escape. Am I just bad or is this normal? 
woeful plank
It's pretty normal to take a while
Idk about specific numbers, everyone is different but no one beat it their first try
reef zodiac
I took more than 50 runs
But look at me now! I beat 45 heat with 3 aspects!
Don’t be ashamed if it takes a while
twin thistle
you can always turn on god mode if its too hard
reef zodiac
Everyone plays at their own pace
woeful plank
I think I beat it like my first 5 run on Xbox BUT that's because I played it on PC before. I think it took me a while to beat it there
brisk trail
So 32 heat... I have hard labour +20%, lasting consequences -50%, convenience fee +80%, jury summons +60, extreme measures 3, benefits package +2, middle management underworld customs, damage control 2, approval process -1 and tight deadline 7 minutes
woeful plank
Oh dear
brisk trail
Idk if that's the easiest setup
woeful plank
I can't do the crazy high heats 
I struggle enough with Hades himself
I usually get to him with full or almost full lives then it's like a coin flip if I actually beat him
But I am playing on like 5 heat now?
twin thistle
So 32 heat... I have hard labour +20%, lasting consequences -50%, convenience fe...
id replace jury summons for td3
woeful plank
Jury summons rank 1 isn't bad but anything after becomes too much sometimes
brisk trail
I'm barely making it out of asphodel... The time limit killed me on hydra
twin thistle
what aspect even are you using
brisk trail
Achilles
reef zodiac
I can't do the crazy high heats <:KEKW:755873923035431071>
What’s “crazy high heat” to you?
woeful plank
What’s “crazy high heat” to you?
Like I've seen people do like 30+ or whatever
twin thistle
I'm barely making it out of asphodel... The time limit killed me on hydra
with your current pact or replacing js3 for td3
woeful plank
I can't even do the 8 for the skelly prize
brisk trail
Current
reef zodiac
You’ll get there
twin thistle
I can't even do the 8 for the skelly prize
what pacts are you taking
brisk trail
Oh I also have calisthenics program +30
brisk trail
Pain
woeful plank
I do the one where they can take a couple of hits like the blue hearts. That isn't bad depending on what weapon I'm using.
Jury summons level 1 always cause I feel like it doesn't make a difference
I do the one where armored foes have perks cause they don't seem to affect me much either. And where bosses have extra armored guys or moves
twin thistle
benefits package and hard labor
woeful plank
Oh is that extra health and extra damage from enemie s
twin thistle
damage and modifiers to armored enemies
woeful plank
I'm terrified of giving them extra damage lmfao
Hades himself already does I think like 40 with his spear 
twin thistle
I do the one where they can take a couple of hits like the blue hearts. That isn...
for 8 heat you can take extreme measures 2 and timed deadline 2 and have most of the heat filled for free
woeful plank
I never tried the timeline
But considering I've been trying to level up Hermes's plume and I get the level ups from clearing rooms fast most of the time
I should be fine
twin thistle
how long is your usual clear time
signal aspen
I can't do the crazy high heats <:KEKW:755873923035431071>
Crazy high heats are like 45+ imo
woeful plank
My guess is like 25 min?
twin thistle
then td2 is free
thorny mirage
Y’all got build ideas for guan yu
woeful plank
I'm slower with the sword but I'm usually pretty fast with the gun
Which by the way, the hidden aspects thing is ticking me off... I had all the requirements for them like 2+ weeks ago and none of the characters will give me them
thorny mirage
You have other dialogue basically
woeful plank
Not even
twin thistle
Y’all got build ideas for guan yu
aphro on special, charged skewer hammer, zeus on call with smouldering air
woeful plank
Achilles is like "You got a good heart." and never says anything 
I finished all the storylines with Nyx or that could involve her
thorny mirage
did you fulfill all the requirements for guan yu?
woeful plank
Pretty sure
thorny mirage
since iirc you need that one first
woeful plank
Unless you need Achilles and his BF to be ruinited
twin thistle
Unless you need Achilles and his BF to be ruinited
nah
woeful plank
Okay then yeah
twin thistle
id just double check the requirements in #h1-story-discussion in the pins
woeful plank
I have 10 titan blood invested in the spear, gun, and sword
thorny mirage
Do you have fated list
woeful plank
Is that where you get prophecies?
thorny mirage
in your room, yeah
thorny mirage
Yeah you just gottan wait
woeful plank
It says to unlock 6 aspects I think
I already did that but I'm not 100% sure on it so I can try to double check it
twin thistle
zag aspects dont count
thorny mirage
Let’s go purple artemis in guan yu
thorny mirage
Bruh
I have guan yu hammers
Quick spin, massive spin, and winged serpent
Literally all garbage
twin thistle
guan yu in a shell nut
mint coral
spin builds with guan yu is fun
buoyant canopy
when can i buy the eldest sigil upgrade
modern garnet
Get close with nyx and chaos, buy admin chamber
Then it'll pop up in the work orders and it'll cost a lot of darkness
buoyant canopy
i have the admin chamber unlocked and i've given nyx and chaos the most nectar i can
do i just talk to them when i can now?
thorny mirage
to nyx specifically
modern garnet
Yeah she'll suggest it eventually
thorny mirage
she’ll be the one to suggest it
modern garnet
I think there's also chaos dialogue needed before the eldest sigil conversation?
buoyant canopy
should i buy the erebus gates?
thorny mirage
ye
buoyant canopy
all my diamonds 😔
pure karma
I am about to fight Hades with Guan Yu
pls god
let me win so I never have to use it again
pure karma
it's a scintillating feast/ice wine build
you heard that right
From hammers I have the fast spin and that other that pulses damage as you charge
thorny mirage
Wow the second one is bad
pure karma
ice wine or the pulse thing?
thorny mirage
Have guan yu rn
pure karma
gl
this is the only aspect I legit die before hades
Actually I dont have to win. Just enter I will get the prophecy
so yeah guan yu done
thorny mirage
Done
thorny mirage
beat charon
pure karma
nice
pure karma
hm maybe I have that
lone kernel
ice wine or the pulse thing?
Pulse thing meaning snow burst? Because on cast builds snow burst is super based. I did a Gilgamesh ice wine scintillating just because yesterday snow burst did more than the ice wine
pure karma
No, I mean the hammer that pulsates damage as you charge
lone kernel
Oh. Ice wine then haha
pure karma
I like ice wine cause the cast is instant
lone kernel
Same
pure karma
it doesnt have that trippy shot projectile trajectory
lone kernel
It’s like snap your finger and it explodes over there
lone kernel
If I get forced into Dionysus I’ll usually grab the cast if not doing a cast build and if im using Zeus I find that way more useful than Demeter but having noth is fun
lone kernel
Can someone explain how seeding works? From my own experiment if I get a hammer room 1 I’ll get a hammer on every weapon w same options per weapon, and if I get a god or take a keepsake it’ll give me the same core boon slot and rarity options but how far does it go? Like when will it diverge (I got the same room with chaos in the same spot in room 2, chaos offered different boons the second time, this is small sample size tho like if I get a really good build and blow it because em4, can I quit out before dying and replay same build?
lone kernel
didnt even lose the defiance
based
mint coral
almost everything affects your rng so while is possible to have the same you are probably going out of the first path really quick
things like casting/summoning voice lines when you try/trying to re roll without rolls/etc all affect rng
lone kernel
So basically if I get a start with a hammer and Zeus, I can reasonably expect those two but after that it’s off to the astral winds?
mint coral
pretty much
lone kernel
Word
cunning cradle
Serious shoutout to supergiant for like, opening my mind
on that note, yeah, absolutely, i also very much appreciated the poly representation, i started playing the game when i was in my first poly relationship and i was like "oh so it is a thing" and it felt pretty good
lone kernel
on that note, yeah, absolutely, i also very much appreciated the poly representa...
Literally gave this game to a poly friend as a birthday gift I’m glad to hear it worked for that crowd too 🙂
cunning cradle
you gotta work on it a little bit cuz maxing than is not easy but yeah
lone kernel
Yeah I know the part you’re talking about haha
When meg and than are talking and say give us a minute and it’s like time to face the it’s not about me insecurity
I hope zagreus is in smash
last veldt
mint coral
bouldy is the final smash
brisk trail
So uh Lucifer laser kinda... I'm not sure I like it
modern garnet
It's funky huh
brisk trail
Sorry I think I asked this before but can you use summons on Hades?
brisk trail
I don't mind knowing
mint coral
you can use bouldy and skelly without doing anything else
for the others you need to be given permission by dad
brisk trail
But how do I get permission? I obviously can't use Thanatos
modern garnet
Hades will give you permission, eventually
I think you might need full hearts with him? I don't remember
brisk trail
I maxed out his relationship already
reef zodiac
Then I think you just have to be patient
reef zodiac
brisk trail
Silksong... 😔
brisk trail
When I'm an old man on my death bed
reef zodiac
Exactly
I just did 3 dash-only runs in a row
Any other fun meme runs I should try?
thorny mirage
hades spear beeg spin only
reef zodiac
Hades spear 
thorny mirage
Either that or talos yo yo take your pick
brave portal
on that note, yeah, absolutely, i also very much appreciated the poly representa...
That stuff was common on ancient greece lmao
split owl
Finally made it to Hades with Guan Yu, so that's the final aspect prophecy done. I couldn't beat him, but I got him so close. lol
thorny mirage
Chamber 10 Second Wave <:shadesmile:520447982727069737>
mfw
reef zodiac
I better get a good Razor Shoals and Sea Storm or EM4 is gonna be pretty rough I’m realizing 
high island
Why not both?
lone kernel
Em2 with a chaos curse that turns on heightened security…sweat
high island
I always plan my build for EM4 specifically when I do EM4.
All my decisions are focused on how they will help me with EM Hades.
reef zodiac
Why not both?
I did say and, didn’t I?
I’m just doing casual meme runs with EM4
Ok sea storm secured
And epic jolted
EM4 should be fine
high island
I did say and, didn’t I?
I don't know, m not a scientist.
maiden bane
4th clear !
thorny mirage
nyaa what is your opinion on aphrodite
spare tiger
Sorry I think I asked this before but can you use summons on Hades?
after a minute Hades gives you the go ahead
if you mean calls though, of course
but yeah your friends need authorization before you can spawn em in
and yeah someone beat me to it but Skelly and Bouldy can be used whenever
maiden bane
I am an abuser of chaos shield
high island
You can summon Skelly and Bouldy from the start against him. The others need permission from Hades.
reef zodiac
nyaa what is your opinion on aphrodite
Guess we’ll never know 
brisk trail
Aphrodite is scary
high island
Only a heretic would need to be scared of Lady Aphrodite. 
And also of my sacred crocodiles.
brisk trail
Because they're all lords and ladies of Olympus
Could also be lord in the way that the Christian God is referred to as lord?
thorny mirage
cringe
brisk trail
Okay Redditer
reef zodiac
You associate “cringe” with Reddit?
candid obsidian
UnmolyMancake
reef zodiac
Isn’t that… more of a twitch thing?
brisk trail
It's common on Reddit just to call something cringe
Even when it probably isn't the most appropriate term
candid obsidian
Hello Reid
Hello just doin some 40 heat eris than saying wow what a good speed run seed
reef zodiac
That’s definitely not just a Reddit thing
brisk trail
I mean yeah
reef zodiac
Hello just doin some 40 heat eris than saying wow what a good speed run seed
Yeah you would do that
brisk trail
Not based
reef zodiac
high island
Stay on topic.
high island
reef zodiac
Nyaa what meme run should I do at low heat for fun
Just did Talos YoYo it was more fun than I expected
brisk trail
He had tantrum with his brothers and smacked his parents
high island
If there are Monthly Challenges you haven't done yet, do those.
high island
Otherwise I dunno. Think about what would be the worst combos, then try to make the most of it.
reef zodiac
I’m gonna do Vengeful Mood
What’s a good aspect for Vengeful Mood? Just a shield to turtle? Nah that sounds kinda lame
high island
Like, try to make Freezing Vortex as strong as you can, maybe.
twin thistle
gilgamesh dash build with vengeful
reef zodiac
I can’t do another Gilgamesh dash build today I’ve done too many already
candid obsidian
Wow Gilgamesh is such a good aspect
reef zodiac
high island
Kinda sad that Freezing Vortex doesn't just sound bad in combination with this or that but just bad on its own and on anything. 
reef zodiac
Wow Gilgamesh is such a good aspect
Is it
high island
It's good at having many dashes.
brisk trail
am i only person who want a daedalus keepsake
high island
And good at applying Maim.
reef zodiac
am i only person who want a daedalus keepsake
How would you get it if he doesn’t appear in game? And what would it do?
brisk trail
having a guaranteed daedalus hammer or increasing effect of hammers sounds amazing
modern garnet
Gilg is the best maim weapon for sure
twin thistle
hammers are already basically guaranteed
brisk trail
maybe next update will give daedalus ¯_(ツ)_/¯
reef zodiac
No it will not
high island
Daedalus Hammers are guaranteed, yes.
twin thistle
idk how much damage vengeful mood is even doing here https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/825862916561305643/889295254900064336/ce66214b-dea7-42e9-8492-e9f5b40df81b_001.mp4
maiden bane
Question
high island
Answer is maybe.
reef zodiac
idk how much damage vengeful mood is even doing here https://media.discordapp.ne...
big bolts
maiden bane
In Styx, do the more expensive boons have higher rarity? I see a 150 Aphro and a 450 Aphro
twin thistle
yas
maiden bane
Oh ok thx
brisk trail
How would you get it if he doesn’t appear in game? And what would it do?
perhaps he could be a random encounter in the same vein as sisyphus but available across all regions and with a much less appearance rate
reef zodiac
Yeah they have increased rarity just like miniboss chambers
brisk trail
Still couldn't do heat 32
reef zodiac
perhaps he could be a random encounter in the same vein as sisyphus but availabl...
Mmm I don’t like that personally
brisk trail
I'm not sure I'm good enough tbh
twin thistle
use the power of the meme beam 
twin thistle
aint they working on their next game rn anyways
hollow wave
Yall
Any tips for Aspect of Lucifer?
brisk trail
they said they are done with the game?
reef zodiac
Yes
twin thistle
uh zeus attack
candid obsidian
they said they are done with the game?
Yes and I’m very very sad
twin thistle
then get aphro on something and get zeus call with smouldering air just kill eveything with the call instead
high island
In Styx, do the more expensive boons have higher rarity? I see a 150 Aphro and a...
In the past, all of the boons in the final shop had increased rarity. Both the 150 and the 450 boons. No idea if that's still the case tbh. The more expensive ones usually aren't worth it over the cheaper ones, though, even if there was a difference in rarity.
brisk trail
Speaking of Lucifer aspect is the infinite magazine worth it?
twin thistle
nah
maiden bane
In the past, all of the boons in the final shop had increased rarity. Both the 1...
It’s cool, just got duos from both 😎
candid obsidian
I think a lot of the aspects need to be buffed or redesigned
hollow wave
Lucifer aspect be like: IMA FIRIN' MA LAZER
brisk trail
How the hell does Lucifer fit in with Greek mythology anyway lol
hollow wave
He don't
brisk trail
hell heh
hollow wave
Thats the point of the Hidden Aspects
twin thistle
none of the hidden aspects do
high island
Note that boons of higher rarity like miniboss rewards have slightly reduced chances for duo/legendary, anyway.
brisk trail
how does guan yu fit with greek mythology
But the characters in game directly refer to the aspects
hell he is halfway across the world and a few thousand years too early
lone kernel
Yall
Any tips for Aspect of Lucifer?
Flash fire - I find the delay in startup time so off putting that I pretty much don’t play Lucifer without it
twin thistle
something something future vision stuff 🤷♂️
brisk trail
hell he is halfway across the world and a few thousand years too early
The aspects are pulled from across time
hollow wave
I mean we're playing a game where one of our main allies is creation itself and a skeleton
brisk trail
Sorry, I keep being overly antagonistic
hollow wave
Does Ares comment on every Hidden aspect? So far he's commented on both of mine
reef zodiac
Note that boons of higher rarity like miniboss rewards have slightly reduced cha...
They do?? I thought the chances were increased?
high island
Increased for epic and rare.
reef zodiac
Decreased for legendary or duo?
high island
Yes. Not by much. Practically makes no difference.
brisk trail
What are the different miniboss icons btw? Like the little arrows next to them
reef zodiac
I’ve always taken miniboss doors assuming that it increased my duo odds
high island
Normal boons have a base chance of 12% per tier 3 roll. Miniboss rewards have a 10% chance.
reef zodiac
Nectar and yarn increases my duo odds right?
high island
Yes.
maiden bane
Clear 5 !
high island
+10%.
brisk trail
Thanks!
high island
Why do miniboss doors decrease odds for duos?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
reef zodiac
I’ve always wondered. What does “difficult encounter” actually mean? I don’t really find those rooms harder
maiden bane
I’ve always wondered. What does “difficult encounter” actually mean? I don’t rea...
The pubescent chariots give me HIV
reef zodiac
What
brisk trail
What's an infernal gate challenge?
reef zodiac
Huh
mint coral
I’ve always wondered. What does “difficult encounter” actually mean? I don’t rea...
More armored enemies from what i remember (and slighty better reward)
twin thistle
less enemies total so theyre faster and easier if your build is decent
maiden bane
The chariots are going through puberty?
The explody Bois get bigger and get armor
They give me HIV
maiden bane
DE
high island
I’ve always wondered. What does “difficult encounter” actually mean? I don’t rea...
Elite chambers have a higher difficulty value and remove some enemies that have a lower difficulty rating from the pool.
brisk trail
And an infernal gate is? The Erebus doors?
twin thistle
yes
mint coral
Pretty sure barge is a mini boss
brisk trail
Cool cool
twin thistle
also with mm theres an actual miniboss
buoyant canopy
where do i find the erebus gates at
high island
where do i find the erebus gates at
House Contractor upgrade.
high island
They'll appear occasionally during your run.
You'll need Heat to enter, though.
5 Heat for a Gate in Tartarus, 10 in Asphodel, 15 in Elysium.
modern garnet
They look a bit like chaos doors
brisk trail
What's the benefit of using the gates anyway
high island
Except very fiery.
brisk trail
bonus loot
buoyant canopy
What's the benefit of using the gates anyway
i think you get an item
high island
Better rewards.
buoyant canopy
like an onion or something
brisk trail
I was thinking that
high island
Double rewards or higher rarity boons.
brisk trail
Ah
buoyant canopy
maybe i'm crazy but i'm pretty sure i heard something about an onion if you fail inside it
high island
Same as the miniboss rewards in the Temple of Styx.
high island
maybe i'm crazy but i'm pretty sure i heard something about an onion if you fail...
That's correct.
brisk trail
maybe i'm crazy but i'm pretty sure i heard something about an onion if you fail...
Yeah it grants 1 health
high island
Not exactly.
buoyant canopy
So uh Thanatos... *Wtf he was my boyfriend all along*?
really :D
wait isn't he your cousin in the game
that's greek mythology for you 🤷♀️
high island
They never saw each other as brothers, anyway.
modern garnet
Mm one time I got two erebus centaur hearts in tartarus... didn't have to worry about health for the rest of the run
buoyant canopy
hades tv show when
brisk trail
Since Nyx isn't actually Zag's mother
I wonder what Asterius' origin is in this telling
buoyant canopy
what do you get for finishing nyx's favor
high island
Her gratitude.
brisk trail
I'm not sure if anything other than her icon on her keepsake
buoyant canopy
:(
brisk trail
Doing Skelly's favour requires 5 titan blood lol
And then you get literally a distraction dummy to use
Smh Skelly
Smh
buoyant canopy
skelly is overrated
high island
That's just what somebody made of pure muscle and no skeleton would say.
buoyant canopy
how did you know i was made of pure muscle :0
brisk trail
Doesn't work if you have no skeleton, buddy.
high island
I also know you haven't set your roles in #bot-commands yet.
brisk trail
Neither have I
high island
Maybe I meant you.
brisk trail
Am I supposed to?
brisk trail
Huh I can't see bot commands
Done.
Your gift is much appreciated but don't think I won't return the favour! Here is my keepsake, friend. A frozen tuna.
high island
...what's a vegan supposed to do with a frozen tuna?
dreamy peak
Hi there people. I've defeated hades too quickly and now nice is not offering me the ability to choose skills in the night's mirror. What should I do? Lose on purpose a few runs if I want to unlock the choices?
Btw I don't know if I should move my message to tech support or if it's fine here
high island
You can't defeat him "too quickly". You're not gonna miss out on anything.
void vigil
well, the ability to switch talents is given from nyx. it is given fairly early in the game. first, check that you dont have it for sure because its not very noticeable apparently - its to the left of the talents, and looks like this >|<.
dreamy peak
You can't defeat him "too quickly". You're not gonna miss out on anything.
You can since the dialogues given to nyx after defeating hades have higher priority to the ones that unlock the choices.
dreamy peak
well, the ability to switch talents is given from nyx. it is given fairly early ...
100% sure
void vigil
she might talk about other stuff now that you won, but as nyaanyaa said, you cant miss anything. losing on purpose is also an option if you want to get non-main-story dialogue more quickly like you said
high island
The dialogue will just come up later if something else is taking priority now.
dreamy peak
I mean, I know I will get them eventually but I'm asking if I can get them without defeating hades 13883 times more in a row or suiciding my runs
void vigil
who knows, its dialogue rng
if you really want to get it, you can purposefully lose a few runs and see though. what run did you win on?
dreamy peak
if you really want to get it, you can purposefully lose a few runs and see thoug...
4th if I recall correctly
I guess that's what I will do. Thanks.
chrome wharf
crank the heat up into the 40s and see how far you go
chrome wharf
someone that early on won't get the EMs or RI
rapid forum
ok, fair
rapid forum
...what's a vegan supposed to do with a frozen tuna? <:courte5Wut:85913124467022...
you release it to the sea
chrome wharf
give it to your non-vegan friends
ivory nacelle
you release it to the sea
It’s gives you a 100 percent chance of getting a fish in Greece after the Hades fight
crystal jackal
ayy
rapid forum
yea well
I don't need fishes anymore
alright I'm gonna put it out there
I don't fish anymore
the only time I fish is when the chamber reward is near the fishing point and taking it triggers the animation.
high island
you release it to the sea
Good idea!
idle cargo
Holup I just noticed something
The charging noise of Aspect of Rama sounds exactly like the opening note for No Escape
Like
void cedar
for the max rank all keepsakes do i need to max all the bonds as well?
the achievement*
idle cargo
Guys I need help
Do I choose low tolerance or unhealthy fixation
This game is so evil
Giving me a duo and a legendary boon at the same time
rapid forum
depends on how high your dio boon's level is
idle cargo
Wdym
rapid forum
if your dio boon's level is not high, just get unhealthy fixation
idle cargo
Ohh
It's +3 max hangover stacks against weak enemies
No clue how high level that is
rapid forum
I'm asking for your dionysus boon's level
rapid forum
unhealthy fixation is aphrodite's legendary
idle cargo
My brain is not functioning rn
idle cargo
Rama, yes
rapid forum
you put dionysus on special?
idle cargo
Correct
rapid forum
what's the level?
idle cargo
Rare, haven't pommed it yet
hearty sierra
Fixation
rapid forum
you can't go wrong with either, but I'd pick fixation
hearty sierra
Charm is good
idle cargo
Gotcha
hearty sierra
Interrupts combos too
You have aphro attack, right? @idle cargo
Just pom that to high heaven and use Sharinga to delete enemies
idle cargo
Nope, I got aphro cast cause I wasn't paying attention
idle cargo
Currently in Tartarus
idle cargo
I equipped overflowing cup just so I can get the prophecy for using all keepsakes done ngl
I haven't used like half the keepsakes
hearty sierra
Lmao yeah I haven't used most keepsakes either aside from the god keepsakes and hourglass/purse/acorn
void cedar
"max-rank each standard keepsake" i just finished maxing them all out and it wont give it to me
hearty sierra
force it if you can
to add onto this: Attack/Dash/Special/Cast boons are the first to show up, so just purge your current attack boon and it'll show up the next time you encounter an aphro boon
idle cargo
Also rama + explosive shot makes it take years to fully charge if you don't dash-attack kek
void cedar
nvm it just gave it to me 10 mins after restarting and trying to get it to work
maiden bane
What’s the best weapon to use Than keepsake? Safety wise
idle cargo
I'd say bow or gun
hearty sierra
What’s the best weapon to use Than keepsake? Safety wise
Most shield aspects are pretty safe
Chiron is pretty good, too
mint coral
hestia/chiron/shield/guan yu ig
maiden bane
Bro the rail I cannot deal with
hearty sierra
Play without Tight Deadline for maximum safety
maiden bane
I have no idea how
hearty sierra
I mean
rapid forum
with hestia, you just reload -> dodge -> shoot
hearty sierra
Get zeus boons on eris and pom jolted
rapid forum
repeat
maiden bane
Pew pew
hearty sierra
I don't know what you don't get
The thing I didn't get was the aiming tbh lmao
I couldn't aim on the rail for the life of me
maiden bane
I don't know what you don't get
It feels so weak but everyone I talk to has a hard on for it
mint coral
I couldn't aim on the rail for the life of me
i just let the auto aim do the work
hearty sierra
It feels so weak but everyone I talk to has a hard on for it
If you have the resources, try a maxed hestia with artemis attack
maiden bane
How much base damage at max blood
mint coral
oh yeah, both eris/hestia are way better maxed
hearty sierra
i just let the auto aim do the work
I thought I had auto aim but you also have to turn off "aim at cursor" which suuuuucks
maiden bane
It’s like 50 deafualt
mint coral
150 at max
mint coral
if you dont have it leveled just default to good old zeus + poseidon
hearty sierra
You'll be fine, just finish a few prophecies
maiden bane
Also, how do you get new bounties? I have clears on no heat and 1 heat for most weapons, but turning heat up doesn’t give me new rewards
Can I only get blood by killing hades and from Styx shop now
hearty sierra
Uh you have to beat the game to reset the rewards
maiden bane
Uh you have to beat the game to reset the rewards
Beat like how
I’ve escaped multiple times
hearty sierra
Here's how it works: every time you reach a new heat, you have to get all four rewards (blood, diamond, ambro, blood) for it to "upgrade" to the next heat level
maiden bane
Ah
hearty sierra
So if you beat the game at 0 heat on, say, the spear, you'll have to beat the game with 1 heat with spear to get the bounty rewards
maiden bane
So if I clear all rewards for a single weapon, that one weapon will give rewards for an additional heat
Ok thx
hearty sierra
Yep
So yeah if you want upgraded weapon just beat the game 8 times to max out hestia
Easier said than done, I know
vapid phoenix
How to make a Demeter cast build?
hearty sierra
How to make a Demeter cast build?
Poseidon sword, have her cornucopia for tartarus and look for artemis as your secondary god for the artemis legendary and artemis-dem duo
My preferred third god would be Poseidon for mirage shot
mint coral
Why poseidon sword instead of achilles?
hearty sierra
So keepsakes go cornucopia>adamant arrowhead>conch shell>acorn/hourglass
hearty sierra
Why poseidon sword instead of achilles?
Because I prefer poseidon sword :P
mint coral
Fair
hearty sierra
Pick up dem cast, of course, then look for arctic blast and the boon that makes lasers fire for longer
I believe the pom target is cast damage, then fire time, then arctic blast
mint coral
Il say pom glaciar glare first, and dont forget to check charon wells/chaos for extra casts
Also stygian soul can be better than infernal if you get extra casts
vapid phoenix
Poseidon sword, have her cornucopia for tartarus and look for artemis as your se...
Started run 
And I got a hammer
All bad too
hearty sierra
Nothing much else matters
chrome wharf
after you special and run to the spear, next 4 attacks or casts do lore dmg
hearty sierra
Stygian soul or the other one?
I prefer infernal but as SumeNoob asys
Stygian is objectively better if you get extra casrs
vapid phoenix
Ahh like the Artemis legendary?
reef zodiac
Infernal is advised
Stygian is for weapons that don’t use their cast, and for trippy shot and crystal beam. But there’s an argument to be made that trippy shot is better with infernal depending on if your build has other sources of damage
hearty sierra
Ahh like the Artemis legendary?
yep, or chaos boons
vapid phoenix
Demeter
hearty sierra
Consensus is dem, talos is fun, I like zag
frigid scarab
I want whatever makes it feel faster and more consistent
hearty sierra
I want whatever makes it feel faster and more consistent
Dem, then
frigid scarab
The one beyond my reckoning is bad?
frigid scarab
Though whatever they are would cool
hearty sierra
Demeter fists
hearty sierra
Wow I was killed
DW you'll get used to it
vapid phoenix
It’s been a long long time since I died via non self-kill
reef zodiac
I want whatever makes it feel faster and more consistent
100% Demeter
frigid scarab
Right now the spear is my favorite weapon with the upgrade that makes the spin weaken enemy’s
hearty sierra
Right now the spear is my favorite weapon with the upgrade that makes the spin w...
Aphro?
frigid scarab
Don’t remember the name
reef zodiac
Which aspect
maiden bane
Clear 6 !
frigid scarab
But it makes the spin very fun to utilize
vapid phoenix
Chad hades spear
reef zodiac
I hate Hades spear with a passion
vapid phoenix
Duality of
frigid scarab
It makes enemy’s take more damage I love it
The spin is already fun to use to begin with
frigid scarab
I mean I got an upgrade that made it charge faster and yea it was extremely good after that
reef zodiac
Beating 40 heat with Hades spear was just playing Zag spear but with a slower weaker special
frigid scarab
Like just like that all enemy’s around me take damage and will take MORE damage from there on
vapid phoenix
I do serrated point + fast spin + Artemis hades spear builds
reef zodiac
For 40 heat?
frigid scarab
I bought the aspect of zag actually
reef zodiac
Zag spear also sucks, don’t get me wrong
frigid scarab
When I thought Titan blood was easily acquirable
I have learned since then but yea
I bought hades then upgraded it
reef zodiac
It’s pretty easily acquirable, you just have to win
10 heat is kinda the same as 0 heat tbh
frigid scarab
I kinda feel like I’d be done after I beat this game but turns out people beat this game multiple times a day or something
vapid phoenix
My preferred third god would be Poseidon for mirage shot
With which Poseidon boon?
vapid phoenix
reef zodiac
vapid phoenix
frigid scarab
Yess
hearty sierra
With which Poseidon boon?
POSEIDON DASHHHH
vapid phoenix
I miss the quarrel chaos emote
frigid scarab
I’m in that server too
maiden bane
Do you have a higher chance to catch rare fish the sooner to reel them in?
vapid phoenix
POSEIDON DASHHHH
Lol I gave up my run cuz I realized you meant dash
hearty sierra
Do you have a higher chance to catch rare fish the sooner to reel them in?
yep
within 380ms
hearty sierra
Nah poseidon boons on other things is fine as well
It's been like two weeks since I last touched Hades so I've forgotten the prereqs for a lot of the duos/legendaries
But your target boons are Crystal Clarity, Fully Loaded, Mirage Shot, in that order
If you want you can pick up lightning rod, too
twin thistle
glacial glare and arctic blast
hearty sierra
My optimal set-up would probably be Zeus Attack, Artemis Special, Demeter Cast, Poseidon Dash, Artemis/Zeus/Demeter call
That set-up allows for all of the aforementioned target boons (provided you get pressure points and support fire)
wise totem
vapid phoenix
Stinky
rapid forum
ayyy
hearty sierra
Welcome!
If you're new to the game you might wanna stick to #h1-for-new-players for zero spoilers
hearty sierra
It's fine! Just pointing it out if you're spoiler-averse
vapid phoenix
No worries + Bathe 
hearty sierra
You're welcome here anyday
vapid phoenix
Wait why do you even need Poseidon sword to dislodge casts
hearty sierra
Wait why do you even need Poseidon sword to dislodge casts
You don't
Which is why SomeNoob suggested Achilles for more damage
80%, I think
hearty sierra
But I prefer poseidon because RNG sometimes screws you and you don't get the cast you want, in which case you can still use whichever cast
hearty sierra
Yeah it's purely for cast damage
twin thistle
With achilles you can start with artemis then see if you get a natural ares or demeter then go from there
vapid phoenix
What does it mean by “+1 per rank” in chthonic vitality
vapid phoenix
The “per rank” part
hearty sierra
"Per upgrade"
twin thistle
lvling it with darkness 🤷♂️
hearty sierra
Then you heal 3 hp every time you leave a room
vapid phoenix
I healed dos 
hearty sierra
Do you have guan yu or Lasting Consequences?
hearty sierra
Yep
vapid phoenix
hearty sierra
called it
high island
Adamant Arrowhead.
hearty sierra
yeah go with the keepsake flow
twin thistle
yeah grab arty
high island
Deadly Strike or Deadly Flourish, then get Crystal Clarity and Mirage Shot.
agile torrent
high island
Crystal Clarity would have top priority there.
agile torrent
this is so funny hep
hearty sierra
Interesting that you got Hard Labor 1 and Jury Summons 1 and Calisthenics 1
twin thistle
hell mode
maiden bane
Dread Flight with Chaos Shield= I’m about to go nuclear
hearty sierra
Wait is that High Confidence?
vapid phoenix
Hell mode
maiden bane
Dread= 4 extra bounces
vapid phoenix
twin thistle
if both glacial glare and mirage shot pop up id prolly go glacial glare
twin thistle
well mirage can be picked up from a poseidon boon anyways
rapid forum
I'd pick glacial too. Seeing arctic blast procs is satisfying
vapid phoenix
Found epic deadly strike AND flourish
twin thistle
id go strike
maiden bane
TFW you kill Theseus before Minotaur
vapid phoenix
TFW you kill Barack before Obama 
Welp found crystal clarity time to fight lernie
Found neither mirage shot not glacial glare
buoyant canopy
TFW you finally find an erebus gate for the first time and can't access it because you don't have any heat because you suck at the game
:(
hearty sierra
Nah, you're not missing out on much, don't worry