h1-discussion

[plucky latch]

I like killing him because he is a cheapskate

[brave portal]

Having to go trough that for a little coin ain't worth it that much

[slim grail]

doesnt make sense either because charon wasnt suppose to be stronger than hades

[manic bobcat]

yeah it's a weird fight. tartarus he is hard because you are not strong. he's a bit of a pushover in elysium imo

he's a secret boss so the difficult spike is all over the place

which is also why he is optional ig

[slim grail]

ahh i see

[twin thistle]

fighting charon with hl5 and fo2 sounds uh not fun so i dont need that gold

[brave portal]

Makes sense, he uses the sheer wrath of capitalism

[plucky latch]

Most secret bosses scaling dont make sense in games. They are ALWAYS stronger than final bosses lol

[manic bobcat]

i disagree tbh

[heavy wigeon]

secr

[marble kettle]

Ok so I just discorvered how to upgrade the weapons lol I’m slow. But do u only get to use on upgrade at a time ?

[brave portal]

And i bet hades doesn't really fight at full strenght, he could defeat titans after all

[slim grail]

kinda true. dark souls can back u up on this

[plucky latch]

I'm glad you were honest.

[heavy wigeon]

yeah it's a "different" weapon

[brisk trail]

i dont think charon is harder than hades

harder to learn maybe

[heavy wigeon]

so you can only have one trait at a time active

[marble kettle]

Ahh makes sense

[brisk trail]

but once youve got it down you take less damage from charon than hades usually

[manic bobcat]

wdym one at a time?

[brisk trail]

at least for me

[twin thistle]

charons difficultly is mainly the lack of practice you get

[brisk trail]

yeah

[slim grail]

oh ya. there's a theory saying hades give zag a chance actually

[plucky latch]

I dunno if damage = difficulty tho

[twin thistle]

also having crappy damage depending on where you fight him

[manic bobcat]

https://www.speedrun.com/hades_ce#Loyalty_Card

[marble kettle]

For example the spear. When u use titans blood to upgrade a weapon, do u only get to use one of the abilities at a time?

[twin thistle]

yeah

[heavy wigeon]

i already answered your question.

[manic bobcat]

If you want to see charon fight only, here is a whole host.

[manic bobcat]

yeah. they are different weapons as someone said

[tall lotus]

that mod fox? not good for being in the rules

[brave portal]

You can only use one aspect at a time, and depending on what aspect you use they have unique hablities that only that specific aspect can use

[slim grail]

supergiant should make more secret bosses! please... there's so many greek mythology can be put as secret bosses! put them as an expansion! like medusa, perseus, krakken, so many iconic greek myth

[brave portal]

....medusa is already in the game

[slim grail]

?

[heavy wigeon]

do u mean duse

[brave portal]

It's just dusa

[manic bobcat]

maid dusa

[heavy wigeon]

yeah

[slim grail]

that's medusa??? why????

[heavy wigeon]

she is kinda annoiyng

[tall lotus]

it duse? he got in game from olden time lore from greekens lol

[twin thistle]

imagine if you could have all shield aspects on at the same time

thatd be balanced

[manic bobcat]

not confirmed, but that's the general theory i think

[slim grail]

she's the most iconic fiercesome villain in greek. pls make her a secret boss

[brave portal]

Oh my god it just snapped for me it makes so much sense now

[manic bobcat]

well we already have gorgons in the game?

[slim grail]

HUH? WHERE?

[twin thistle]

asphodel

[heavy wigeon]

2nd zone

[slim grail]

which level?

ohhh that big head one?

[tall lotus]

well watermelon, it not for confirm since he not called medusa, onlin dusa so it not greeken for sure

[manic bobcat]

but i do agree that hades is a bit light on optional secret stuff

[twin thistle]

the ones that you know turn you to stone

[brave portal]

I'm pretty sure dusa is medusa

[heavy wigeon]

i think apple and watermelon should be friends haha

[tall lotus]

who say that rod?

[twin thistle]

[slim grail]

ahh ok so medusa checks out

[brisk trail]

maid-dusa

snakes for hair

your dont really have to read into it

[tall lotus]

that not true, he call dusa not that lol

[slim grail]

but krakken... cmon that is the most iconic greek myth too! he should be in secret boss! and dont tell me that 2nd boss fight is krakken =.=

[twin thistle]

'dusa' 'medusa'

[brave portal]

I mean medusa, dusa, a gorgon, a decaptitated head

Checks up

[twin thistle]

yep doesnt ring a bell

[manic bobcat]

and the goddamn pun

too perfect to not be true

[heavy wigeon]

2nd boss fight is hydra lol

hydra and kraken different beasts

[brave portal]

And doesn't want to talk about the time she was decaptitated because "she was a different person back then"

[brisk trail]

kraken lotta legs

hydra lotta heads

[tall lotus]

ok, in this i asking for difine answer for sure, he call dusa and not modusa, so it not modusa? that for sure to me

[brave portal]

It's a nickname

Like zag or tan

[manic bobcat]

it is implied

[tall lotus]

say who? hadee dad not say it

[brisk trail]

read above lol

[slim grail]

is supergiant games working on expension of hades? is it too late if i want to request more secret boss?

i know this is stupid

but i could try

[heavy wigeon]

how can u say its implied when nowhere in the lore is it explicitly implied

[brisk trail]

DLC would do really well in Hades but afaik nothing is in works

[slim grail]

aww man

[manic bobcat]

explicitly implied

[heavy wigeon]

they makeing a new game my friend

[tall lotus]

if hadees dad not say it modusa, then it dusa, that what he want ot be called, it rude to call and assume he different

[brave portal]

I don't think they really need to point out something that obvious

[slim grail]

YOU'RE SERIOUS?

[brisk trail]

that's not DLC

[slim grail]

alright!!!

[plucky latch]

TRUE

TRUE

[slim grail]

i hope supergiant game continue to grow as an indie dev

pls dont turn into AAA

[plucky latch]

Don't you find it pretty ODD that Medusa has an entirely different personality in the game?

[slim grail]

make more awesome game

[brave portal]

Maybe her full name reminds her of the days when she was a monster before dying

[plucky latch]

IF it really is Medujsa

[slim grail]

this medusa discussion is funny hahaha

[brave portal]

She did say she was a different person back when she was alive and doesn't want to talk about it

[manic bobcat]

is there an official dusa personality book somewhere?

also how would you consider Theseus

[slim grail]

OHH wait! is that a reference of when she was evil????

[manic bobcat]

he seems different than the myth, is he not the same person?

[slim grail]

so medusa is cannon in this game

[heavy wigeon]

evil reference

[tall lotus]

rod, not listening for sure this time? dusa say not for sure taht modusa him, but hadee dad not sayin it for sure too and no one say modusa, only dusa, let dusa be dusa ok?

[plucky latch]

What do you mean by that

Theseus is a king

he is deserving of respect

[manic bobcat]

my point is the devs definitely took liberty with the source materials

[slim grail]

so far there's so many cannon greek characters in the myth too. but so far, there's no nyx and that skeleton guy in the myth lore

[manic bobcat]

so the fact that dusa personality isn't exactly the same with what you expect from the myth says nothing.

[slim grail]

i think those two are made up characters

[manic bobcat]

the same way with theseus

in fact theseus was supposed to be the main character in hades preconception

[brave portal]

Nyx is one of the most important characters in greek myths bruh

[tall lotus]

fox, this in the timeing for dalseyhoods ? it saying for taht the great lore it good from, not real though

[brave portal]

Skelly doesn't exist tho

[twin thistle]

uh yeah nyx is actually in greek mythology

[brisk trail]

skelly is supposed to be the ghost of odysseus

iirc

[slim grail]

oh really? crap .. ok i gotta research and read up nyx then

[brave portal]

Wha

[slim grail]

but skelly... aww hope he is real

[brave portal]

Fr?

[plucky latch]

Dusa is also not ugly. She can't be Medusa

Just makes sense to not assume

imo

[brisk trail]

yeah it's not confirmed but it's there

[heavy wigeon]

she is ugly

[brisk trail]

up to you if you like to believe it or not, i do :^)

[tall lotus]

why say that dusa is modusa? be causing they have long hair? it snakes, cmon !

[slim grail]

omg i just read up0 nyx

[brave portal]

No one is ugly in hades tbh

[slim grail]

it said even zeus feared her

fear her*

[manic bobcat]

please dont assume medusa to be ugly

[little dragon]

medusa is never ugly

[manic bobcat]

thanks

imo

[carmine ravine]

Dusa is pretty annoying in personality

[tall lotus]

@still cove Morphious is ugly, she have greasy hair lol

[slim grail]

guys read up nyx pls! it says gods fear her

i didnt know nyx is that powerful

[brave portal]

Besides, medusa was half god and half human turned into a gorgon by athena, might make sense she isn't as dumb as the other gorgons and doesn't feel any appreciation towards them

[plucky latch]

Aphrodite, Meg, Tisephone, Hades, Sysuphus

[slim grail]

WAIT I GOT SOMETHING INTERESTING

[brave portal]

They're all beautiful you're trippin

[brisk trail]

how are aphrodite or meg ugly lol

[slim grail]

charon is a child of nyx!

[twin thistle]

[plucky latch]

Lol so true

[little dragon]

compared to skelly theyre all ugly

every one

[brisk trail]

nah charon is hottest character

[manic bobcat]

and somehow thinking alecto is not ugly but meg is

[slim grail]

aphrodite isnt ugly. she is the goddess of beauty

according to greek tho

[manic bobcat]

not judging your taste but yeah

[carmine ravine]

Charon is pretty ugly, fite me

[slim grail]

im only a simp towards artemis

[brave portal]

Bouldy is the hottest character, obviously

[manic bobcat]

not everyone has to agree

[twin thistle]

subjectivity

[brisk trail]

i think many people are a simp to artemis lol

[plucky latch]

Alecto ugly too

[little dragon]

tissy is pretty much a mummy though

[twin thistle]

what even has this chat become

[carmine ravine]

Alecto is hot tho

[brisk trail]

meg and alecto are both hot

[slim grail]

really? aww. Artemis got that tsudere character

[manic bobcat]

ironic given what she stands for (though i do like artemis)

[carmine ravine]

Smh no arty romance path

[slim grail]

what does she stands for? pls tell me. im really interestd

[tall lotus]

rod, that in propriate, cmon dude!

[manic bobcat]

Artemis, in Greek religion, the goddess of wild animals, the hunt, and vegetation and of chastity and childbirth

[plucky latch]

Yeah. Artemis is such a BABE

[brave portal]

Artemis is pretty cute ngl

[tall lotus]

kind weird that it only childbirth and not adult birht lol

[slim grail]

chasitity? what???

[manic bobcat]

She is often interpreted as an asexual character

[tall lotus]

greekens weird too

[manic bobcat]

Well she literally asked Zeus to never let her marry, or lose her purity

[brave portal]

Oh yeah, because you are born as an adult

[slim grail]

artemis got that "baka" kinda thing going on

[manic bobcat]

greek myth is weird

we can agree on that

[carmine ravine]

Ye especially with arty-aphro interaction

[twin thistle]

this chat is weird too

[little dragon]

🦢

[plucky latch]

What does this mean

[manic bobcat]

that's norse myth, which is another pantheon, but point taken.

[twin thistle]

why are we talking about norse mythology now

[brisk trail]

think theyve watched 2 anime and know what baka means

[tall lotus]

rod, this in propriate too, this not good, mod get mad at s*x talk cmon

[carmine ravine]

Its a weeb thing, you wont understand

[slim grail]

oh wait that's norse

[carmine ravine]

In fact arty is a very efficient killer

[slim grail]

hmm there's should be a show or a game where norse and greek combine universe

[manic bobcat]

are you trolling?

[slim grail]

that will make so much money

[twin thistle]

why is chat degenerating faster

[brave portal]

It's not my fault everyone is so hot in this game

[slim grail]

im not. why am i? =/

i dont get it

[manic bobcat]

there is such a game and yes it did make a lot of money

[slim grail]

what game is it?? pls tell me

[carmine ravine]

||probably a child||

[slim grail]

i am

[manic bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE-4GvjKcfs

[slim grail]

huh?

[plucky latch]

DUIDE

[slim grail]

that's the game?

[brave portal]

Seeing how it talks most likely

[plucky latch]

YOU CAN'T POST THAT HERE

[tall lotus]

that not ok that off topic

[slim grail]

erm ok...

[tall lotus]

this hadee not god war

[slim grail]

im sorry. is it ok? 😦

[brave portal]

Anyway, as i was sayin

[tall lotus]

rod, melon not it, he watermelon

[slim grail]

im just got really excited over greek myth

[tall lotus]

rod this rude talk no good for this in here, i might be tell that at aggy

[slim grail]

and norse

[brave portal]

This game turned me bisexual and i'm not even upset

Know what i mean

[tall lotus]

that not hadee discussing

stop

[plucky latch]

Gonna side with Jacob on that one

[slim grail]

so i should talk sexually on game characters to make me not look like a kid?

[carmine ravine]

Jacob, chill out, its still the game

[slim grail]

ok noted

[plucky latch]

No. nono

Nonono

[tall lotus]

they just troll sometime watermelon, they play hadee too much

[slim grail]

rod did it. he seems like an adult i assume

[slim grail]

oh 😦

[tall lotus]

it in saying for the mean thing, but let us get to hadee discutalking!

[plucky latch]

You don't have to be an adult. Just be yourself my friend

[brave portal]

I'm old enough to vote i mean

[tall lotus]

rod, that not on topic, let talk about for to hadee please

it un conformtable in this for sure

let talk about boon and shield buff!

[carmine ravine]

I cant read these

[brave portal]

I'm talking about hades

[tall lotus]

what shield for strongest against hadee dad?

[brave portal]

Talking about how the characters are damn pretty

[tall lotus]

that not topic, let stay for it ok?

[plucky latch]

I wouldn't take the shield. I'd take the Sword

[tall lotus]

so, shiled can be for stronger than spear?

[carmine ravine]

Thats pretty on topic dw

[plucky latch]

Every man needs a sword

[slim grail]

HAHAHAHA

[brave portal]

Props to the designer cause gawd dayum

[tall lotus]

hmm, i thinking it time for the healing?

@granite ether

this making me feeling like not talk to hadee in discussion, say too many s*x thing this one

[manic bobcat]

you can say sex, it's fine

[brave portal]

I ain't saying nothing bad

[carmine ravine]

Why this dude is so repressed in speech

[tall lotus]

i am lithua, that rude

[plucky latch]

I think he's from Lithuania

[tall lotus]

in this in talking for to how you type? that not making sense to me

[elfin granite]

You're going to make him feel bad bro

[brave portal]

I'm just simping for fictional characters a little nothing wrong with that

[tall lotus]

i guessing it not ok for lithua to be in here for it then? that not ok

[plucky latch]

Much wrong with simping

[tall lotus]

this hadee discussion, not hadee simp? what you tri?

[carmine ravine]

Nah, a lot of ppl here likes the characters

[brave portal]

Just expressing my love for the characters shown

Peace

[tall lotus]

in lithua, we have time for the funs outside and talking, it not possible to marry cartton in lithua? can you in from your place?

[carmine ravine]

[slim grail]

honestly speaking, none of the characters in hades annoys me haha. they're all likable in their own way. props to SGG

[plucky latch]

Actually, I think so. We can marry pillows

[tall lotus]

that weird haha it in making the no sense

[plucky latch]

Rod will get a Hades body pillow...

[carmine ravine]

For me skelly a little and dusa is mostly pretty annoying

[manic bobcat]

look fam, no one says anything about you being Lithuanian, please don't pull the nationality card out of nowhere.

[plucky latch]

Yeah. Dusa is EXTREMELY annoying

[brave portal]

Don't tempt me

[manic bobcat]

anyway, also need for personal attacks in general

[slim grail]

WHAT? skelly is so lovable ❤️ hahaha its ok everyone have their views

[plucky latch]

I genuinely hate Dusa.

[elfin granite]

I think he was justifying his bad english

[tall lotus]

? this hadee topic fox, this not good for to talk, let us hadee discuss

[slim grail]

wow i didnt know dusa is unlikeable

[tall lotus]

i thinking inlazer gun can be strongest of all times! what boon for this sure i wonder?

[manic bobcat]

everyone can have their own opinion ig

[plucky latch]

Honestly, it makes sense for you to like Dusa Melon. It just makes sense

[manic bobcat]

zeus attack

[slim grail]

i know what u mean. and my feelings got hurt 😦

[plucky latch]

She seems made for younger audience

[carmine ravine]

Probably the high pitch and the stereotypical "ultra shy crush" theme onnndusa makes it annoying for some people

[plucky latch]

Nothing mean my friend

[manic bobcat]

bruh lmao

[slim grail]

what about skelly? he's soo awesome actually

[tall lotus]

rod, that not ok, taht s*x talk, stop

against rules for sure

that not ok

[slim grail]

rasyiqa?

[plucky latch]

what

[carmine ravine]

Skelly is funny, weird accent tho

[manic bobcat]

rayquaza?

[tall lotus]

that pokemon, not hadee for sure

[slim grail]

sharigan on zeus ay?

[slim grail]

yea! but i can tell your fav character is.... poseidon

[plucky latch]

what

[carmine ravine]

How is this chat gets worse over time, havent visited here for like 10 month@manic bobcat

[brave portal]

Would let zeus use me to make a new greek demigod know what i mean

[carmine ravine]

Nah, i like artemis

[manic bobcat]

not really, just tonight.

[plucky latch]

enough

[marsh ore]

Update

Everything went normally

[manic bobcat]

yay

did you win?

[marsh ore]

Acted like I saw it

[manic bobcat]

xD

[tall lotus]

taht cheating

[brave portal]

I'm on a roll cmon

[heavy wigeon]

what

[plucky latch]

Plot hole time

[marsh ore]

Mhm my first 5 heat clear too

[marsh ore]

Just the update to an earlier question

[manic bobcat]

did you get to the ending yet?

[twin thistle]

yay the game works

[carmine ravine]

5 heat is cool

[marsh ore]

Not yet but I'm close

[manic bobcat]

neato

[marsh ore]

Mhm

Thx for the support in my hour of need

[marsh ore]

Ofc I was using the bow

[twin thistle]

bow supremacy

[manic bobcat]

^

[marsh ore]

Mhm

Wasn't even the best build

[plucky latch]

Medusa is on my hitlist

Believe that

[narrow hemlock]

think you should probably tone down your hostility against a fictional character, it's a bit off putting to see any time dusa gets brought up.

[tall lotus]

Henlo all and rest, I return and back!

[granite ether]

☝️

[tall lotus]

oh, Hello Aggy! how to do in this day for you?

[heavy wigeon]

i wish u could fight her tho it would be cool

[granite ether]

Hi hi, I'm doing alright thanks

[plucky latch]

I would understand, but it isn't every time Medusa is brought up. I guess it just stays in your mind often

But I'll tone it down for you my friend.

[tall lotus]

that in that for sure prince, it makin the sense for that my friend

[narrow hemlock]

would appreciate it actually. there's nothing wrong with disliking characters but lets still try and keep it respectful ✌️

[glacial adder]

war is not peaceful my friend

[heavy wigeon]

i respect it when people have anthor opinion but it cool to be able to say my own

[tall lotus]

it fine in the time for it to be in rash, but it true on that war is strong and hurt

[plucky latch]

[heavy wigeon]

yeah @tall lotus my dad and incle both fought in war but they ok now

[tall lotus]

that good, hadee like your dad, in they strong too

maybe your dad and incle use shield too?

[heavy wigeon]

in a methaphor type of way yeah

[tall lotus]

I wonder this in for some time, why not able for to update loaded image in hadee discuss? i have mad funny mp4 hadee joke to tell

[heavy wigeon]

u can post link

[tall lotus]

@rough token in taht maybe you know answer? i think funny hadee mp4 is for to hadee discussion

[plucky latch]

Yeah, I wanna see it

[glacial adder]

hmmmmm. Jacob Ian maybe right, but it best to be alert for hadee when he come around in darknes

[tall lotus]

darkness for sure bad this time, they saying it long time in hadee lore

[plucky latch]

Who is the voice actress for Medusa?

@narrow hemlock

[narrow hemlock]

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[tall lotus]

uummm, i thinking that it for aphrodite, voice acting for the dusa head if is kate higgin

[plucky latch]

Thanks my friend. I didn't even realize she also voices Aphrodite. That makes a lot of sense

[tall lotus]

this making the not sense for sure this time, i thiking that in for dusa head voice acting is that for to kate higgins person voice, for sure

[modern garnet]

dusa's voice is pitched up I think

maybe there's a more complex effect idk

[glacial adder]

censorship allow on discor now?

[tall lotus]

waiting for that one this time, that what i thinking for sure riddler

[heavy wigeon]

I guess it's not ok to be complimenting a real person at the expense of a fictional character

my bad 😁

[tall lotus]

i guessing for the someon who from the eastarn place, they likeing in that fake character for this one, but in lithua we like for the real life too so taht ok

[smoky kiln]

Does anyone know if pulverizing blow will proc status effects twice?

[manic bobcat]

it's two hits, so it would stack stuff like hangover, but not doom

it acts just like two separate but fast attacks

[smoky kiln]

Nice

Ty

[hoary schooner]

wazaaaaaaaa

[brisk trail]

whats a good aspect+hammer for zeus

i never take zeus unless going for sea storm im realising

[rapid forum]

achilles + flurry jab
eris + delta chamber

[hushed belfry]

I've heard rail is pr good

yeah what fluffy bun said

[rapid forum]

zeus shield + any hammer? idk whether pulverizing blow procs zeus

[raw herald]

Assuming you mean aspect of Zeus (shield), then explosive return and charged shot are great

But after rereading what you said, my assumption was wrong

[little dragon]

zeus is good for anything that hits fast and does low damage per hit.

same as dio

which means rail is the ultimate match

bow you dont really want it on any. maybe put it on the special for zag or rama

[brisk trail]

explosive return seems counter intuitive on a shield you want to stay out

actually so does charged shot, how does that even work with zeus?

[brisk trail]

ty

any suggestions for other boons with eris+delta

[vapid narwhal]

same as other shields

just... not super useful with Zeus

[brisk trail]

oh nvm im dumb lol

was thinking charged shot was special fsr

[vapid narwhal]

you are thinking about charged flight

[brisk trail]

ye

[vapid narwhal]

you cant get charge flight with zeus

[raw herald]

It just means you have to change your playstyle with it. But it's the best hammer on Zeus for both speedruns and high heat

According to Baj

[reef zodiac]

Really? Better than charged shot?

[raw herald]

Yep

[reef zodiac]

But don’t you want Zeus special? Meaning ER doesn’t do a ton

[brisk trail]

i just thought the whole point of zeus was to keep the shield out with zeus flourish

[raw herald]

Still spreads jolted and has double strike

[brisk trail]

making ER a bit weird

[reef zodiac]

Hmm

Alright makes sense

[raw herald]

And scales better with global damage

[reef zodiac]

No you don’t want to “keep it out”. You want to use it, but if you just keep it out then it will be doing less damage than if you use it tactically

[brisk trail]

huh

would be nice if the 2 best hammers that look the nicest for zeus actually worked with it lol

[reef zodiac]

Wym?

[raw herald]

From watching Baj, he seems to throw it at an enemy, and when it goes past the enemy, bull rush to it and catch it

[brisk trail]

dashing flight and charged flight both dont work with it

the dps increase would be immense

[raw herald]

Id just watch his 64 heat routed VOD

[reef zodiac]

They’re also both bad hammers

So… not missing much

[brisk trail]

if they worked with zeus i think they'd be bis

[raw herald]

Just imagine a combination of chaos shield and Zeus shield

[reef zodiac]

Well maybe but idk

[brisk trail]

whats the worst hammer for shield

dread flight?

[reef zodiac]

That’s like saying exploding launcher should work with Guan Yu. It doesn’t really make sense so it’s hard to imagine how good it would be

[raw herald]

Probably dread flight yeah

[brisk trail]

i don't think that's really comparable

exploding launcher basically does what guan yu's special does with 5 more base damage

dashing/charged flights increase the specials base damage by 200%

[raw herald]

I think dashing flight is additive

Not sure though

[brisk trail]

oh sorry dashing is 200% damage not base

youre right

[reef zodiac]

Right but I can’t really imagine charged Zeus shield. Like I don’t know how that would work. And dashing flight would not make any sense because would it move faster? I literally can’t imagine it

[brisk trail]

it'd just make the base damage 90 instead of 30 no?

for charged flight

[reef zodiac]

Well you’d have to charge it

[brisk trail]

i don't see how that's very hard to imagine though

just hold right click for a second before releasing

[reef zodiac]

[brisk trail]

or q or w/e your keybind is

[reef zodiac]

I’m not arguing about this

[reef zodiac]

X on my controller

I just think it’s stupid to be upset about a hammer no being eligible when we can’t really even know how it would feel to use

[brisk trail]

i'm not upset about it i just said it would be nice

[reef zodiac]

Well I don’t think it would be.

[brisk trail]

and to be fair you started any "argument" by questioning rmacinty lol

[reef zodiac]

Huh??

What are you talking about

[pure karma]

Help me out here guys cause I can't tell. Does Bull Rush from the shield have a similar mechanic to the Charged Shot from the bow? As in, if you release it with perfect timing you deal more damage?

[reef zodiac]

You mean Perfect Shot?

And no, it doesn’t

To my knowledge, the only other thing with a perfect shot is Kinetic Launcher

And Minotaur Rush ofc

[pure karma]

Because there is some kind of flash when I bull rush. No mino upgrade

[rapid forum]

without the hammer it doesn't have perfect shot

[pure karma]

I see

Also, does anyone ever use Stubborn Roots lol

[brisk trail]

maybe on a cursed slash stubborn defiance build lol

otherwise dont think so

[pure karma]

isnt there some heat option that removed mirror upgrades?

I assume if you juice it enough it will remove them all right?

[brisk trail]

yeah but you only do that if youre going over 40 usually

[pure karma]

yeah, in that case roots seem insane

[reef zodiac]

Yes, Routine Inspection

[vapid narwhal]

RI is something you only take at hyper high heat

like, 50+

[reef zodiac]

It’s not at all, remember that you’re gonna only have 5 minutes per region at that point, and will be facing 60% more enemies who have 30% more health

[reef zodiac]

*50

[vapid narwhal]

not even 40 heat will take them

[reef zodiac]

God no

RI sucks

[jade zenith]

by the time you take RI4 you will have LC4 enabled

and so it won't do anything

[pure karma]

how much is max heat?

[reef zodiac]

Yeah also that

[raw herald]

RI4 is the last pact that you'd ever take

[reef zodiac]

64

[raw herald]

64

[brisk trail]

ive seen 40 heat but i think it was RI2 not 3/4

[raw herald]

If you take RI at 40 heat, you're going to have an easier time doing something else

[reef zodiac]

Well that’s a stupid mistake. RI2 at 40 heat is a terrible terrible bad idea

[pure karma]

I assume the game is actual hell at 64

[vapid narwhal]

god no dont take RI at 40

64 is currently unbeatable

highest is 63 but seeded (perfect RNG)

unseeded is 61

[jade zenith]

seeded did 64

[reef zodiac]

Yeah I’m pretty sure Zeus shield did seeded 64

[pure karma]

you can seed runs?

[vapid narwhal]

save file manipulation

[reef zodiac]

Kinda

[vapid narwhal]

#h1-high-heat-strategies message

[jade zenith]

if you aren't super dependent boons then I do find that RI2 or AP2 is easier than the equivalent amount of hard labour

[reef zodiac]

What?? Nooo never

[jade zenith]

there are worse things to be doing at 40 heat

[reef zodiac]

No no no there kinda are not

That’s insane

You do what you find fun, but respectfully I think that’s an insane idea and you’re making things incredibly hard on yourself

[jade zenith]

HL5 is literally making the game twice as hard, if you only need 2 or 3 boons then RI isn't going to double the difficulty

[reef zodiac]

I wouldn’t even take AP1 below 43 heat, let alone AP2

[reef zodiac]

What’s your heat PB?

[jade zenith]

45

[wise oasis]

Why do you keep trying to gatekeep opinions

[reef zodiac]

Because I did 40 heat with all but 7 aspects, and 45 heat twice

[wise oasis]

If it works for them it works for them

[reef zodiac]

Yes, I said this already

[wise oasis]

might not be the "best" but it works for them

[reef zodiac]

I just think that RI2 or AP2 over Hard Labor is suicidal

[jade zenith]

I wouldn't be running on it a build that needs 5 different zeus boons to be good but if all I need is an attack, special and dash core boon then I find it easier

[raw herald]

RI2 is basically half health as well

And fewer boons/poms

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

[raw herald]

And no money

[jade zenith]

half health earlier on

[reef zodiac]

No

Half health

You get offered half as many centaur hearts

[raw herald]

Because you get fewer centaur hearts and have no gold

And no rerolls

[reef zodiac]

It’s like so much worse. HL10 would be easier than HL0 RI2

[jade zenith]

by the time you get to the end it isn't half health

[reef zodiac]

It really is

[jade zenith]

70 isn't double 50

[raw herald]

All depends on styx

[jade zenith]

it isn't changing the offerings in styx

[reef zodiac]

And if it’s not, it’s because you picked health over boons at every opportunity, which means your build is way weaker

[jade zenith]

100 gold is worth about 10 health with CF

[reef zodiac]

First of all that’s objectively false

[jade zenith]

if a heart costs 225 and gives 25 health then 100 gold is somewhere inbetween 10 and 15

[reef zodiac]

But more importantly, you’re getting offered a lot less gold doors

And assuming you’re taking health over those gold doors when possible, you’re rarely gonna actually have enough health to buy more than one thing per region (if that)

And this is all easier than taking 80% more damage?

You’d be better off with EM4 replacing those HL levels

If you really are so scared of HL

[jade zenith]

em4 would definitely be first

[reef zodiac]

You’re telling me you take EM4 RI2 AP2 before HL5?

[vapid narwhal]

no reroll for combating RNG, less gold rooms and I think you lose God's Favor/Legacy as well with RI1?

those 3 are already pretty damn huge in itself

not mentioning RI2

[reef zodiac]

Yeah it’s super super brutal

[jade zenith]

I wouldn't be taking both RI2 and AP2 at the same time because that just makes the game too reset heavy

[reef zodiac]

So you go EM4 RI2 before HL5?

[jade zenith]

maybe

or at the very least that is what I would be trying

[reef zodiac]

That’s harder than my 50 heat pact

Unironically

So damn good luck out there

Because you’re gonna need it

[plucky latch]

Just beat heat 64

[raw kiln]

sup guys

[rain relic]

sup

[raw kiln]

any way to remove the zagreus aspect from a weapon?

i used titan blood to upgrade other things but I just can't get rid of it

[rain relic]

i'm currently malding over dumb AI in Pokemon games rn

[raw kiln]

it's stuck to the weak af weapon

[rain relic]

you can't remove titan blood from weapons, so you'll need to get more of it to use it on other weapons

[raw kiln]

I mean

I don't want the titan blood

I want the weapon like it was before

I am using the bow and I could put my cast on my attack

but I bought the zagreus aspect and now I can't do any of those

[rain relic]

then click on that aspect when you select the Bow

[raw kiln]

uhm..

well that worked

thank you so much

you're a life saver

[rain relic]

you're welcome

now if you will excuse me, i need to go back to being upset over dumb AI in pokemon

[pure karma]

Is there ever a situation where Smoldering Air is even remotely worth? I don't get it.

[high island]

Smoldering Air is one of the most powerful boons in the game.

[brisk trail]

minor call spam>greater call for most calls

its more dmg

[pure karma]

hm

I have athena's call

lol...

[brisk trail]

yeah thats good

you get to be invincible every few seconds

[last meadow]

what about artemis call? is SA still worth on it? bc the greater call damage looks spicy

[high island]

You get i-frames any time you activate any Call.

So yeah it can definitely be worth it.

But I wouldn't prioritize trying to get Smoldering Air if I had Artemis' Aid.

[last meadow]

oh okay okay thanks

didn't think about the iframes

[high island]

Nor trying to get Artemis' Aid if I already have boons from Lady Aphrodite and Lord Zeus.

[last meadow]

fair

[high island]

You also can get Billowing Strength and Second Wind, which activate any time you use a Call.

So with Smoldering Air, you can have them up permanently.

Well, except for the first few seconds of any encounter.

[vapid narwhal]

there are a few calls I'd rather saving up for a greater but yeah SA+Billowing is always good

[reef zodiac]

Yes #h1-victory-boasting message

[reef zodiac]

That ends up being a panic button for a second and a half of invincibility every 4 or so seconds. It’s literally hard to get hit if you use that correctly. It’s nuts

[brisk trail]

I don't really know how to use calls

like, when

things often get too chaotic for me to keep track

[rain relic]

press F when the gauge on the bottom left hand side of your screen is full

[brisk trail]

that's been a problem with fighting Hades

oh, right

my bad

[jade zenith]

for athenas call you basically just hit the button whenever you don't think you can dodge

[brisk trail]

but yeah, what's hitting me like 90% of time?

also, I've come to a bit of a conclusion

cursed slash kind of feels like a crutch

being able to heal kind of makes dodging not so important

you just tank through everything especially with high attack speed

[raw herald]

It gets worse as you increase the heat

[brisk trail]

I beg your pardon?

what's that mean?

[raw herald]

Have you beat the final boss yet?

[reef zodiac]

Cursed Slash is very bad

[pure karma]

I still have no idea what ||Hades'|| Boiling Blood debuff does.

[reef zodiac]

You take double damage

[pure karma]

oh...

hmm

I should avoid getting hit by that then

[reef zodiac]

Probably

It also does damage when you get hit by it

[split owl]

My best run so far - Just below 19 minutes. Not better by much, but still better.

[reef zodiac]

I bet if you did a single Eris speedrun right now you could beat that by 5 minutes easy

[brisk trail]

Time to interrupt this conversation to bring you an important message:

Zeus Aspect best Aspect

[reef zodiac]

It’s definitely really really good

I’d say it’s in my top 5

Beowulf, Rama, Zeus, Eris, Hestia is probably my top 5? Idk, maybe not Hestia but I’m not sure what I’d replace it with

[slim grail]

im just curious abt the lore in this game

erm.. .all these characters are "dead" right?

like in-game i mean

[burnt breach]

who?

[slim grail]

all of them

[burnt breach]

every character in the game?

[pure karma]

How do you build Beowulf. Feels so clunky

[slim grail]

yep

they're all dead right?

[burnt breach]

flood flare mirage shot

[slim grail]

i mean in-game

[burnt breach]

not at all, what makes you think that?

[pure karma]

flood flare is poseidon's special right? I have that

Which one is mirage shot?

[burnt breach]

cast not special

[pure karma]

yeah cast

[burnt breach]

mirage is poseidon artemis duo

[pure karma]

mb I have that

[slim grail]

because they're in the underworld...

[thorny mirage]

some of them, like achilles and eurydice are

some are not

[slim grail]

u mean they're alive?

[thorny mirage]

like nyx, hades and zag

[slim grail]

wow ok im so confused now

[thorny mirage]

the gods aren’t dead

[slim grail]

hold up

[thorny mirage]

the ghosts you see around/most of the enemies are

[slim grail]

so underworld isnt the "other side"?

[thorny mirage]

What?

[slim grail]

other side

[thorny mirage]

other side of what

[slim grail]

like the spirit world. you said achiless is alive

so....

hmmm

[thorny mirage]

I never said achilles is alive what

[reef zodiac]

It takes some practice to play well. If you’re playing on controller, I suggest remapping cast to a shoulder button

[slim grail]

so achiless is alive in hell?

[thorny mirage]

I replied to “they’re all dead”

[slim grail]

like literally alive?

[thorny mirage]

He’s a shade

A ghost

[slim grail]

oh so he is dead?

[burnt breach]

the gods are immortal melon

[thorny mirage]

I said some are dead, some are alive

[lone kernel]

Flood flare replaces flood shot as your cast on beo and hera

[thorny mirage]

the gods are not dead

[slim grail]

the gods arent dead? so zeus in heaven is like alive?

omg.. im really confused hahaha

[thorny mirage]

Not heaven

[slim grail]

sorry guys

[lone kernel]

And to play beo - the main thing is loading casts while rushing best achieved by a remap like pancake suggested

[reef zodiac]

Flood flare is better for speedruns but passion flare is better for high heat

[thorny mirage]

Olympus doesn’t equal heaven

[slim grail]

waittt

[thorny mirage]

just where a lot of the godly pantheon lives

[reef zodiac]

Is this the first time you’re learning about anything related to Greek mythology?

[lone kernel]

Mirage shot on beowulf is double cast damage due to bugs lol

[slim grail]

so netherealm and olympus arent hell and heaven??

[stoic flame]

no

[thorny mirage]

Nope

Everyone goes to the underworld

No one goes to olympus after death

[slim grail]

im rly sorry! i only know abt medusa and that maze thing

[stoic flame]

afterlife is all hell in greek mythology. Its just that there is a good hell and then there is a "hell" hell

[thorny mirage]

Underworld isn’t only fire and brimstone either

[stoic flame]

olympus is the god's crib

[thorny mirage]

only place that’s bad bad is tartarus

Asphodel is just kinda in the middle

Elysium is for the heroes and stuff

[lone kernel]

This is an oversimplification but you can think of Tartarus as hell, asphodel as purgatory and elysium as heaven (for mortals)

[thorny mirage]

and styx is near the surface

[slim grail]

tartarus? that 2nd level of the game?

[thorny mirage]

First

[lone kernel]

Olympus is not heaven in this canon lol

[slim grail]

ok so....

olympus and that hades place, is just like a living thing?

like a living place?

[lone kernel]

Not sure I follow

[slim grail]

sorry!!!

[stoic flame]

olympus is just where gods live. it has nothing to do with hell

or heaven

[thorny mirage]

Olympus is where the gods dwell

[slim grail]

ya ya ok. soo like olympus is not a spirit world. It is a literal living place?

right?

[stoic flame]

yes

[slim grail]

AHHH

[stoic flame]

da hous

[slim grail]

wow... ok

[lone kernel]

@slim grail https://youtu.be/Zu7c3Uv366M

This will get you started on the Greek myth rabbit hole

[thorny mirage]

the underworld is where all the dead go

[lone kernel]

That channel has a ton of videos

[stoic flame]

https://tenor.com/view/stroke-brain-dead-die-dumb-gif-20796254

[thorny mirage]

it’s segmented

not all of it is for the bad people, not all is for the good people

[slim grail]

ty! i will check into that later

[slim grail]

OHH so it is hell then?

underworld i mean.. kinda since the name hahaha

[thorny mirage]

well no

Hell is punishment

[slim grail]

wait so hell and heaven do exist in greek mythology right?

[thorny mirage]

underworld has places for the people who did well in life as well

[lone kernel]

Not exactly. If looking through the lens of Christianity, the analogy is Tartarus is hell that’s where the goons go to get tortured by the furies (Sisyphus)

And elysium is heaven for all the great warriors

[slim grail]

OHH

[lone kernel]

Theseus sucks now but he had a good run before he died

Patroclus died a great warrior too

[thorny mirage]

it’s like heaven and hell are all in one place really

[slim grail]

those 3 sisters? oh so they the punishers. ok this is interesting

[lone kernel]

Yeah, Sisyphus pushes Bouldy up the hill while the furies whip him

[slim grail]

ahh i see

[lone kernel]

Typically asphodel is portrayed as a boring meadow where everything is like, neutral

[slim grail]

wait.. that kind guy with the boulder has a lore too??? i thought he is just a normal npc

[lone kernel]

The lava is new for this game

[thorny mirage]

Yeah

we don’t get told his lore in game

[stoic flame]

"kind" guy

[lone kernel]

Yep. Sisyphus has been a character for thousands of years lol

[stoic flame]

he was a horrible king lol

[slim grail]

he is!! =.=

[slim grail]

oh hahaha... sorry

[slim grail]

i will look into him

[reef zodiac]

Every character has lore. Also, have you really never heard of Sisyphus? His story is kinda… well known generally

[lone kernel]

Yeah fam, SG went through great pains to make sure this story fit into the canon of Greek myth

[slim grail]

omg this game is just one uncharted lore waiting to be explore!!! this is awesome

[stoic flame]

yeah most of them are real dudes in the greek mythos

[burnt breach]

ah yes ancient greek hamburgers and fries

[lone kernel]

Check out that video I posted it’ll get u started but literally you can just google any character that intrigues you

[stoic flame]

🗿

[lone kernel]

yeah man, the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast

[stoic flame]

a man's gotta have his burger and fries

[burnt breach]

👍

[lone kernel]

and then his machine gun

[stoic flame]

[lone kernel]

[slim grail]

idk if its the same guy but back then i heard of this story where a guy keep pushing up the boulder only to see it get roll down for eternity but he is still smiling. SO IT IS THIS GUY? OMG

[reef zodiac]

Yes

[lone kernel]

It is that guy yes

[slim grail]

wow... srsly guys... this is mind blowing for me

[lone kernel]

Hahaha get to YouTube

https://youtu.be/2y4aGe0Y-K0

[slim grail]

i will. First i wanna learn about this achilless like what is he doing in the underworld. I mean there's a movie about him

[reef zodiac]

Wait Hades has lore?

[slim grail]

saved

[lone kernel]

He was a badass warrior but he died

Then hades recruited him to work in the house and train his kid

[burnt breach]

Yes. The lore is :
-Thanatos is hot
-Megaera is hot

[lone kernel]

You forgot Bouldy

[slim grail]

3 hours! hahaha it is gonna be worth it

[slim grail]

ahhh ok...

hmmm

[burnt breach]

bouldy is bouldy

[slim grail]

so underworld does serve as a "spirit world"

[lone kernel]

It’ll be more like 6 with all the pause and google it’ll make you do haha

[slim grail]

WAIT

there's another one iconic greek mythology

i didnt see in this game

did i missed it?

he has his own movie too

something titans

clash of the titans yes

[pure karma]

Everytime I watch a video with someone doing a speedrun or smth, they always show a death before they start. If this some kind of way to prove their run was not tampered with?

[slim grail]

is he that guy where we have to fight?

with the bull guy?

[lone kernel]

Correct

[jade zenith]

it shows that they don't know the seed beforehand

[reef zodiac]

It’s to prove its unseeded

[pure karma]

I see now

[jade zenith]

since if you were to hit give up instead of dying then you would play the same seed as before

[pure karma]

what

the run in predetermined from the start?

[burnt breach]

the seed is

[lone kernel]

That’s Theseus - he was a king of Athens and he killed the Minotaur when he was alive (it’s a long story)

[pure karma]

everything is exactly the same?

[burnt breach]

no, almost anything you do will change the seed

[lone kernel]

Then in death, Theseus brought the Minotaur to elysium with him

[slim grail]

ty i will look into it. ok will check his lore after i check achiless ones

[lone kernel]

Since Theseus is famous because of the asterius fight haha

Him being a loudmouth dingus is new to the game

[slim grail]

ahh. the good ol rival becomes friend thing

[lone kernel]

Like in the old stories Theseus is this glorious hero and the Minotaur is a monster

[jade zenith]

most stuff will change the rng but if you do the same things every time and start from the same seed then you will get the same outcome

[split owl]

When I'm fighting those two, it quite often looks like Asterius is turning on Theseus and helping me. lol

[slim grail]

ahhh i see. minotaur in this game is soo chill though. hahaha

[pure karma]

So, if you constantly give up before a room, the next rooms will change or not?

[burnt breach]

@lone kernel naughty naughty

[lone kernel]

Haven’t had my coffee yet and I’m a New Yorker let me live lol

[burnt breach]

ah yeah it must be hard fighting rats everytime you take the subway

[slim grail]

is zag a new character or is he really part of the myth?

[lone kernel]

Yep. The characters here have largely grown and are different than they’re portrayed in the myths

He’s referenced, but he’s like, just a background character who exists

[slim grail]

that explains the medusa hahaha

[pure karma]

In actual mythology Zagreus was the son of Zeus and Persephone, not Hades

[slim grail]

zag? ahh .. so he isnt popular

[jade zenith]

in order to change which rooms appear you need to do something differently between attempts such as using your summon or breaking some pots

[lone kernel]

He was a blank enough slate that he was perfect to be the protagonist of a new story

[jade zenith]

you can certainly manipulate it throughout the entire run but some people just find it easier to do the first room only

[lone kernel]

Ngl I’ve started a run saw id get a common attack and dash and an epic cast, I reset and grab Beowulf or Achilles and start again lol

[thorny mirage]

Actually varies upon myths

[pure karma]

Also, Persephone was the daughter of Zeus and Demeter, and she was abducted by Hades with the blessing of Zeus

[thorny mirage]

Some of them are hades and persephone

It’s weird

[pure karma]

The game makes things much more romantic

[thorny mirage]

you know, regional variations

[thorny mirage]

That still sorta happens in game

Instead zeus made her a gift

[pure karma]

Yeah but from what I understand Hades didnt abduct her.

[thorny mirage]

yeah

[pure karma]

And in the game she doesn't seem mistreated

[lone kernel]

He outright says “I took her” in one of the first ten hades fights

[pure karma]

But

[lone kernel]

She didn’t resist tho

[pure karma]

later we find out this was a lie

[lone kernel]

And implied she had a crush on hades

Idr

[pure karma]

He just accepted the "gift"

[lone kernel]

Been a while

[pure karma]

In actual mythology Hades wanted to take her regardless of her wishes

And I assume zeus said "yeah whatever take her who cares lol"

Greek mythology is really tragic

[low hare]

And confusing

[pure karma]

Agreed

[thorny mirage]

And again, greek mythology isn’t entirely static

[pure karma]

What I am going to say is sacrilege because I am Greek, but I prefer norse mythology.

[thorny mirage]

in some myths, the whole pomegranate thing was intentional on persephone’s part

[lone kernel]

Sisyphus hadn’t been portrayed as a kind wise old man before afaik

I took that to mean it was totally BS

when they discuss it

Mom dad and zag

The Pom thing

[rain relic]

in all fairness, excluding the kidnapping and pomegranate seed things, Hades and Presphone have the most stable relationship in the entire pantheon

[thorny mirage]

and that one fling with minthe

[lone kernel]

How many of those myths start with “Zeus got horny”

[rain relic]

90% of them at bare minimum

[thorny mirage]

uh

a lot

[wise oasis]

yes

[lone kernel]

[slim grail]

what's a pantheon? google didnt really give me the answer

[rain relic]

a group of gods

[reef zodiac]

Pantheon

[slim grail]

oh? u mean like artemis, zeus, poseidon, theseus etc?

[rain relic]

That moth haunts my nightmares and the day i beat it is the day i will know true peace

[reef zodiac]

Imagine playing Hollow Knight

[rain relic]

imagine not playing HK

[pure karma]

Anyway, I like what they have done with the Mythology in this game. It's well written and satisfying

I also found out that the VA of Zagreus is also a wicked good Hades player

How talented can you be

[slim grail]

yea! and it is unexpected too!

wait is this spoiler free?

[pure karma]

He also voices Orpheus too right? Does he sing?

[mint coral]

he does the singing voice ye

[pure karma]

wow

[thorny mirage]

this has no limits to spoilers

[lone kernel]

No this ones ok

[thorny mirage]

so like you can spoil here

[low hare]

Yeah I’m pretty sure he got like a 25 min run

[slim grail]

oh because i wanna say something though

[slim grail]

yay

[pure karma]

uuhh

sub 12

I think

[lone kernel]

based

[low hare]

Oh

[raw herald]

I thought the fastest SGG Dev was ~15 mins

[slim grail]

ok... story was unexpected because i thought zeus eventually finds out that persphone was hiding!

but he didnt, instead she goes back to hades

feels satisfying

[lone kernel]

Game’s not over haha

[slim grail]

??

no it is my 10th run

she goes bback with me

on the boat

[lone kernel]

yeah, that’s the credits. Now there’s an epilogue

[pure karma]

you found out she goes back in 10 runs?

[thorny mirage]

there is an epilogue

[pure karma]

you literally won your first 10 runs?

[lone kernel]

10 wins

[split owl]

^_^ 25 isn't even that good. My first win against Hades was 21 minutes, most speed runners can do it in 12.

[thorny mirage]

the feast right?

[lone kernel]

Not necessarily 10 runs

[jade zenith]

20 minutes is the baseline for TD3

[low hare]

My ooga booga caveman brain is so smart

[pure karma]

I float constantly 24-26

[slim grail]

epilogue?

[pure karma]

and I am a noob

[raw herald]

Speedrunning the game and beating the game quickly are completely different lol

[slim grail]

u mean the game is long than over?

[thorny mirage]

It never is completely over over

it is a roguelike

[lone kernel]

There’s plenty of stuff to do. I just finished the prophecy list on Tuesday and I’ve had the game since launch with 350 runs

[slim grail]

huh wait wait.. like the dialogue or whatever when you finish the game after your 10 wins, not gonna be repetitive?

[mint coral]

im still missing the lyre prophecy lol

[slim grail]

there are new stories after those?

[raw herald]

I've not even done the epilogue

Lmao

1000+ runs in

[slim grail]

wtf

[reef zodiac]

Reid moment

[lone kernel]

Correct. It’ll slow down, but there’s still like half the story to go

[split owl]

I do a little bit with the Lyre whenever I get back to my room. It will take me forever, but I play it until Zag says something.

[lone kernel]

After credits

[low hare]

I remember getting 2 duo boons in a single run, on top of already having one

[slim grail]

oh man.... hmm.... i have this feeling hades will be helping me

[thorny mirage]

Im missing 2 prophecies

[lone kernel]

You’ll see haha

[thorny mirage]

Successive charon and spread fire

[lone kernel]

I had a mandatory two hour training thing for work, literally just pressed the button for two hours during that meeting lol

[thorny mirage]

Hammer refuses to show ip

[lone kernel]

You don’t need to take the Charon fight every time to get the prophecy

[thorny mirage]

I know that

but charon hard and I haven’t played in a while

Still rusty

[lone kernel]

I’m still kinda sad about my room 6 Lucifer splitting bolt then getting waxed by Charon anyway lol

[slim grail]

just want to make it clear, hades is basically a "satan" right?

[thorny mirage]

no

Dude’s a nice enough guy

He’s just bad at

parenting

[split owl]

Hades is a horrible father, but he's amazing otherwise.

[thorny mirage]

and again, makes sense he was a bad dad

[slim grail]

yea. in this game, he looks kinda chill. I was like "why is this guy potray as a devil? he is cool"

[thorny mirage]

His own dad ate him

[slim grail]

wtf

[thorny mirage]

He’s usually chill in general

[lone kernel]

Nope. He’s a dude who does his job and is a bad dad, but he isn’t a direct analogy to Satan

[slim grail]

that was unexpected

[split owl]

I still prefer Hades from Descendants though. Cheyenne Jackson is bae.

[thorny mirage]

It’s just christianization correlating underworld with hell, which is inaccurate

and popular media often using him as the “bad guy”

[lone kernel]

He was the bad guy in Hercules

[thorny mirage]

And the disney hercules movie which I don’t talk about

[lone kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/amirite-hadesdisney-hades-gif-5584633

[slim grail]

ahh ok so it is just misunderstanding guy

since u guys helped me clear that up that hades isn't portray as satan

means zeus isn't god then

i mean like

literal god... u know

u guys know what i mean

[lone kernel]

Also correct. Christian god does everything, where Greek gods all have their own areas

Zeus is in charge and there is a semi analogy to Christian god

[thorny mirage]

moreso analogy as a “sky father” esque deity

[lone kernel]

But he isn’t like, the creator of everything

[thorny mirage]

yknow, up in the clouds, presides over most of eberythin

But he’s not omnipotent

[pure karma]

I just completely ruined my beowulf build

I took thge wrong duo

sigh

[mint coral]

you can always take it again, well depending on the duo you took

[pure karma]

THe problem is that the playstyle changed completely and it sucks

I took the Ares/Poseidon duo

that pulses your cast around you

[mint coral]

oh yeah, rip

try to sell that asap

[pure karma]

no worries, I wont get out of elysium with this