I don’t have nitro but if I did I would say :tamershrug:
#h1-discussion
reef zodiac
lone kernel
chrome wharf
one time I had a janky control issue, I resetted the binding and it resolved itself, then changed the bindings back no problem
latent vine
guys, I really like this game
dim flower
welcome to the club
brisk trail
It's pretty good, hades and sts are the only games I've double dipped on ever
remote pebble
STS ?
brisk trail
Outside of dota2, hades and sts are two of my top three played games, tw3 and xpacs being the other top of the top three
Slay the spire
Slay the spire is a crown jewel, as is hades, I'm glad they've both received the praise and adoption they have
Once every 20 hours or so in StS you get the most broken deck and it's so deeply satisfying, same way getting a nice hunting blades run is in hades (although getting the really OP run in hades is more common in my experience)
severe pelican
good job man congrats
brisk trail
thanks
I was attempting to clear at heat 63. I got to the temple of styx
But the timer thing just messed me up
granite ether
I cleared at heat 57
nice, have you got any victory screen screenshots to show off, I'd love to see em 
lone kernel
brisk trail
I will have to take a picture cuz I only have it on switch
granite ether
that also works :3
dim flower
quick question; if i have long knuckle on Malphon, does it change the animation for the dash strike?
because currently its using the gilgamesh dash strike anim rather than the regular one
as in it looks like slashing claws instead of a swinging fist
brisk trail
how do i put in pictures?
narrow hemlock
link embed
direct image uploads are disabled for all but two channels, but uploading elsewhere and linking the image will embed it
dim flower
same for videos?
narrow hemlock
yes
dim flower
pog ok
narrow hemlock
we do it this way because it adds extra steps for people who want to spam, and the bot will auto nuke links posted in rapid succession :v
manic bobcat
brisk trail
are you able to crop pictures
twin thistle
phone recording of laptop 
narrow hemlock
are you able to crop pictures
not via discord
twin thistle
pretty sure long knuckle doesnt affect dash attack
also here is beeg damage i just got https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/825862916561305643/883916632227991612/c92cbbcd-b115-4266-a677-4c0af77a7c18_001.mp4
dim flower
phone recording of laptop <:ron:459075377906712586>
dont have a recording software, sry. not to mention this ol thing would probably incinerate itself
manic bobcat
pretty sure long knuckle doesnt affect dash attack
no but long knuckle is still decent, not like the best, but it provides decent damage and utility
dim flower
just asking about animations
twin thistle
yeah the range is quite nice still
dim flower
doesnt affect my run just something i noticed
long knuckle + lightning strike is one of my favorites, feels like i’m throwing out spells
reef zodiac
Long knuckle + Lightning strike almost makes me feel like I’m playing flurry jab lmao
Not quite though, because my dash strikes still have terrible range
dim flower
oh i also got swift strike from hermes so i’m zoomin now
reef zodiac
Hades spear is the worst aspect in the game and I’ll defend that take
Yes I think it’s worse than Zag sword and yes I think it’s worse Zag spear
leaden geyser
i mean
reef zodiac
At least Zag spear can get flurry jab
leaden geyser
do you have hidden spear aspect?
leaden geyser
bruh
modern garnet
Hidden spear is the best spear
dim flower
i’m a big advocate for hades spear tbh
reef zodiac
Achilles is best spear
dim flower
hidden spear is tough for me personally
leaden geyser
hades is just poor man achilles but i can't advocate for guan yu
reef zodiac
At least Zag sword can do Merciful End well
Hades is definitely worse than Guan Yu
At least Guan Yu has chunky special damage with charged skewer
leaden geyser
i mean that's the point
leaden geyser
gilgamesh is worse
reef zodiac
I don’t agree
modern garnet
Guan yu has cool stuff to do with it, it's got thoughtful playstyle, it's got high intensity gameplay... hades spear has nuffin
reef zodiac
At least Gilgamesh can do Merciful End pretty decently
leaden geyser
what can't do merciful end in this game
reef zodiac
what can't do merciful end in this game
And Hades spear can technically do it but it does so very badly
manic bobcat
but there are better things on them
modern garnet
ME is a bad way to judge whether a weapon sucks or not
leaden geyser
yes
reef zodiac
ME is a bad way to judge whether a weapon sucks or not
I’m just saying that it’s a viable build for Zag sword, where Hades spear has like 0 viable builds
dim flower
love it when you piss off an olympian and they give you an entire room of armored greatshields
leaden geyser
i mean the reason gilgamesh is so disliked is because it's slow as hell and the special is actual turbo sus
reef zodiac
Gilgamesh sucks for sure
leaden geyser
extra dashes are cool and all but
reef zodiac
But it has a few viable mediocre builds
Or at least it can do ME
Which is something
Hades spear has nothing
dim flower
if you get lots of bonus damage on gilgamesh dash strike it has really nice potential
modern garnet
I will say that gilgamesh is more fun than hades
reef zodiac
For sure
reef zodiac
if you get lots of bonus damage on gilgamesh dash strike it has really nice pote...
Except that the dash strike has 20 base damage while the attack has 60 base damage
dim flower
also true
reef zodiac
Still better than Hades spear
leaden geyser
it's more a problem of spear feeling like you are swinging a grandma without flurry jab
brisk trail
dang sorry guys it is taking so long
leaden geyser
and you can't get flurry with hades
reef zodiac
Exactly
leaden geyser
since we are talking about weird aspects
talos should pull every single visible enemy
reef zodiac
I’m so frustrated with this stupid aspect
leaden geyser
🦗
reef zodiac
talos should pull every single visible enemy
Lmaoo yeah idk about that
leaden geyser
imagine
leaden geyser
press special now you are dead because you pulled every single elysium shieldman
brisk trail
Does anyone know how to get hades on steam less than 93 cents?
wise oasis
You mean like 95% off?
manic bobcat
lol i don't think that's possible. the cheapest i have seen Hades is like 10 or 15 bucks on Epic last summer
well you can get someone to gift it to you, i guess
brisk trail
I have no mons
man
I tried taking a picture with my phone and the quality is so crappy
manic bobcat
can you not record screen on a switch?
i thought that's one of the things they advertise, no?
brisk trail
dunno
mint coral
Yoi can record on switch ye
Hold the screenshot button and it records the last 30 seconds only tho
reef zodiac
I. HATE. HADES. SPEAR.
It’s literally the only thing between me and getting every aspect to 32 heat
And this stupid stupid aspect is so incredibly terrible
With zero viable builds
Zero interesting builds
Absolutely worthless aspect
manic bobcat
xD
brisk trail
you can have a super potato pc and it will still run better than the switch
i have an i5-2500k and a gtx670 on my htpc and play hades on the couch and it runs fine
manic bobcat
you can have a potato and it would still taste better than the switch
dim flower
tru
manic bobcat
i have an i5-2500k and a gtx670 on my htpc and play hades on the couch and it ru...
i mean that would run 95% of indie games just fine, it's not that bad of a PC
brisk trail
Ehh
buoyant canopy
how do i give more nectar to people
i know i have to do like a quest or something
but it's locked
manic bobcat
if you can't anymore then talk to them. sometimes you need to do quests which is listed in the prophecy list.
modern garnet
Not all favors for people are in the prophecies
buoyant canopy
i'm trying to give more to meg and nyx because i heard they gave companions
modern garnet
They have something they want from you. Sometimes you talk to them a lot, sometimes you talk to them and someone else a lot, sometimes its gameplay
Meg is just talking with her
Nyx is her and chaos
manic bobcat
Meg does, Nyx doesn't, just FYI, though you kinda need Nyx for other stuff as well
so might as well
buoyant canopy
what do i need to do to give more nectar for the gods?
manic bobcat
nothing in particular
buoyant canopy
oh
manic bobcat
well, not until very late into the game where it is abundantly clear what you have to do
but it sounds like you are not there yet
modern garnet
The olympian favors are themed, ares wants you to kill, aphrodite wants you to be in relationships, posiedon wants you to fish
manic bobcat
I got to elysium at 63 heat and died to a cart
You got out of Tartarus without timing out? That's impressive.
brisk trail
ungus bungus
wise oasis
You got to Elysium taking less than 50 damage?
polar marsh
Speeeeed booooost
brisk trail
game with Zeus shield is not so bad
brisk trail
Lots of crying tho
severe pelican
Welp I'm.bored of my other games so back to Hades to learn Zeus shield 😎
void vigil
It’s literally the only thing between me and getting every aspect to 32 heat
Doesn’t tailesque have some old hades spear high heat clears on youtube? You could look at those and try to get the same boons or something
brisk trail
I am done with attempts for now
by the way the zeus shield is a smart thing to get
get
severe pelican
For sure
wise oasis
Tony you sure you can't get a pic? Even a low quality one would be good, I'm really interested
void vigil
#h1-victory-boasting has image posting permissions if you’re trying to post a victory screen or something related to it
manic bobcat
I wonder if people have reached 1000 escape attempt
Easily. In fact I probably do, or at least p damn close.
void vigil
A resource director rank
severe pelican
Ah
void vigil
it’s just cosmetic
severe pelican
Thanks :)
dim flower
👍
twin thistle
dim flower
NICE
reef zodiac
Doesn’t tailesque have some old hades spear high heat clears on youtube? You cou...
That’s actually a great idea. Thank you Alma
wispy vessel
Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I’m trying to complete the slashed benefits prophecy but I’m only missing “popper”. Is there a requirement for that? It’s the only thing keeping me from finally getting the platinum on PS4
polar marsh
Zag be catching all the fish
twin thistle
popper is the elysium guys one 
twin thistle
lmao
twin thistle
getting chaos fishes is pretty rare to begin with
void vigil
chaos fish are just pretty rare in general
severe pelican
Got it 👍
wispy vessel
Ok thanks everyone 
void vigil
Good luck with the platinum!
severe pelican
I need to start playing non ranged weapons 0.0
Gonna screw myself when I want to 32 heat on. Everything
void vigil
I think you can do that with every weapon
reef zodiac
Gonna screw myself when I want to 32 heat on. Everything
Hey I’m going for that right now!
void vigil
oh I misread
polar marsh
Lol
reef zodiac
And I’m having a terrible time with Hades spear which is all I have left
severe pelican
I need the rail
reef zodiac
I looked at Tailesque’s run and it really looks like he won because he’s insane at the game and not because of any kind of build
severe pelican
Time to get insane at the game then
polar marsh
I'm only using the rail for prophecy completion
void vigil
doing 32 heat once was enough for me thank you LOL 20 is the number I feel comfy at but I’ve been just doing no heat runs do grind darkness and streak
reef zodiac
He even said that he got terrible luck on boons and hammers
severe pelican
I'm feeling very confident at 16 now
brisk trail
this pic is gonna be in boasting
severe pelican
I've been training myself.on em3 and fo2
lone kernel
Hades spear is basically 4 heat by itself
severe pelican
Scared to try em4 though
void vigil
I looked at Tailesque’s run and it really looks like he won because he’s insane ...
Lol probably, doing 40 heat boonless with hades spear is kinda…
polar marsh
Boneless
lone kernel
I've been training myself.on em3 and fo2
Highly recommend adding td3 to your practice runs. Em4 not necessary for 32 but hey, go nuts if you want
reef zodiac
Lol probably, doing 40 heat boonless with hades spear is kinda… <:bouldy:5233291...
Eww who would do that
lone kernel
Ok word
severe pelican
Realised I average around 15 mins every run so nothing to be afraid of
reef zodiac
Hades spear is basically 4 heat by itself
Yeah, it’s way harder than Guan Yu for me (which I see as the second hardest 32 heat aspect)
severe pelican
I wanna get into speedrunning but I doubt I'm gonna drop below 10 for a while
Atleast not until I get battie
One day
void vigil
that is really fast. I feel like td2 is where it’s at
reef zodiac
Realised I average around 15 mins every run so nothing to be afraid of
Yeah same. I got a sub-15 minute 5-sack at 32 heat with Zag spear lol
Like two runs ago
void vigil
Good god
severe pelican
Damn that's really hype
severe pelican
Mines 10:12 😔
reef zodiac
Well don’t worry, I got stupid RNG on my run
polar marsh
I wanna see a fresh file no death run so i can see the special dialogue but theres bearly a vid on those as they just died in there previous attempts only 1 guy did it on that ign vid
reef zodiac
Well don’t worry, I got stupid RNG on my run
Right, @candid obsidian ?
wise oasis
I wanna see a fresh file no death run so i can see the special dialogue but ther...
Check the fresh file catagory on Speedrun.com
severe pelican
I keep not getting sea storm
reef zodiac
Right, <@702342819670523934> ?
It’s funny because I beat his PB in only 3 runs when he has been working at it for months lmao
void vigil
They usually skip the dialogue
severe pelican
I think I'm not understanding the prereqs
candid obsidian
Right, <@702342819670523934> ?
Literally perfect elysium
reef zodiac
Lmao true
wise oasis
They usually skip the dialogue
True but I can't think of anywhere else theyd get it
severe pelican
Also how do you use the Zeus shield, do you set it to return and then just sprint away from it ?
Or just let it do its thing
void vigil
But you can see the dialogue in the ign vid if you pause it
wise oasis
Oh wait there's that Tumblr post with all the dialogue
candid obsidian
Chaos
Fountain
Patty
Butterfly ball
Good rooms
reef zodiac
Also how do you use the Zeus shield, do you set it to return and then just sprin...
Nah, throw it out, then bull rush enemies into it kinda. It takes practice
severe pelican
Ah I see
candid obsidian
Ig you could have gotten Thanatos
brisk trail
da picture is in boasting
wise oasis
Ngl makes it seem like you're hiding something, you resent that picture and made what you can see even smaller
reef zodiac
Yeah it’s a little weird
severe pelican
You said in that chat you had done 9 clears earlier
Unless I'm missing some.contezt
wise oasis
I wanna see a fresh file no death run so i can see the special dialogue but ther...
https://hades-dialogue.tumblr.com/
If you can't find a run it should be in here somewhere, although it'd probably be easier to find a video
dim flower
did it not fully release in 2020
tepid plover
Fully yes
Wait now im confused, was the initial release on 2018 or 2019?
Time been so confusing the past 2 years
dim flower
i just think its kinda funny to consider a game as “out” when its still in beta
honestly
like i wouldn’t say baldur’s gate 3 is out because they’re very definitely still working on it
tepid plover
i just think its kinda funny to consider a game as “out” when its still in beta
it's still good to keep in mind the early access release since that's when the game became playable
dim flower
true
tepid plover
You cant just delete the early access data from the internet
dim flower
yea i know lol
tepid plover
But I see your point
void vigil
It was 2018 yeah, but it was december so end of the year
tepid plover
It was 2018 yeah, but it was december so end of the year
Thansk for clarifying my 2020 existential crisis 🥳
I cant believe in 4 months it will be 2022, I still haven't gotten over 2020
severe pelican
hades time woooooooooooooooooooooooo
south lagoon
woohoo hades time
tepid plover
tepid plover
No joke
void vigil
wait, everything in that blog was posted within one month, and they haven’t posted since. Wow
dim flower
holy crap
narrow hemlock
that blog hasnt been updated since before nighty night update
so its still missing several updates worth of content
void vigil
wow I didn’t realize the date
wise oasis
Nice find on the vid alma, ty
Checked it and he was hiding the lack of a mirror bar @reef zodiac
void vigil
why, couldnt you take RI at current 57?
void vigil
ohh does the mirror bar still show up when you do RI
wise oasis
Normally grays them out iirc, gonna go double check
void vigil
man i dont remember anything from blood price
i do seem to remember when not every mirror thing had a symbol? so yeah maybe there just wasnt a mirror bar and youre right
wise oasis
Oh it doesn't show up normally
If you max ri
Double checked rn in a newer vid
Oh figured out why he cropped it so weird, top right has the version
reef zodiac
Checked it and he was hiding the lack of a mirror bar <@738544446747967599>
Ah, I see
wise oasis
Says 0.3
Black bars cuz mobile and my phone is long
Also the timer is before TD would give additive time, it was resetting to 7 mins so he ran out of time at 20 mins on td2
void vigil
also werent pact costs adjusted or something? a 57 pact would look different now, no? 57 used to be max pact
there are a lot of reasons to crop that if youre trying to use it, in short
ocean oyster
Should I trade ambrosia for titan blood?
wise oasis
also werent pact costs adjusted or something? a 57 pact would look different now...
Yeah you're right, its 56 heat on current patch
AP is 2 for level one not 3
void vigil
trading a little ambrosia is fine if you really need it, but ambrosia is still important
ocean oyster
trading a little ambrosia is fine if you really need it, but ambrosia is still i...
I’m not sure how to use it
I’m pretty new rn
void vigil
its like super nectar, youll find out eventually
ocean oyster
Although I actually beat Hades today haha
void vigil
congrats!
ocean oyster
Thanks!
Okay so honestly in that one run, it was pretty easy because I had this upgrade on my shield where it shoots this powerful projectile instead of bull rushing
And that really helped me out
void vigil
you need way less ambrosia than you do titan blood and you can get all of the ambrosia you need from bounties and prophecies so thats nice
ambrosia is still important though
it just comes into play a little bit later depends on how you play
ocean oyster
@void vigil Oooh, well for Artemis, I got all hearts except for the last one where there is a lock heart. I can’t gift anymore nectar to her so I thought maybe Ambrosia. But it doesn’t seem to let me do that either
void vigil
you have to unlock the heart now, yeah
every character has something different you need to do in order to do that
ocean oyster
every character has something different you need to do in order to do that
Do you know Artemis’s?
void vigil
yes, you just need to talk to her a lot. equip her keepsake and eventually youll get all the dialogue necessary for it
ocean oyster
yes, you just need to talk to her a lot. equip her keepsake and eventually youll...
Damn I see
I want to try to get the Aspect of Beowulf but I checked the wiki and it seems like quite a long process
modern garnet
Well it's stuff you end up doing anyway
Chatting with chaos and achilles, spending blood, nbd
lone kernel
I want to try to get the Aspect of Beowulf but I checked the wiki and it seems l...
pretty much everything in the game opens up eventually, just keep doing runs and talking to everyone
modern garnet
I think if you keep in mind all the stuff you're waiting to unlock it makes the game more miserable
You'll get it when you get it
ocean oyster
I think if you keep in mind all the stuff you're waiting to unlock it makes the ...
Yeah I get you
Thanks guys!
severe pelican
lol womp womp
my first 32 heat attempt on chaos shield
slain by a dapper looking asterius ;-;
lone kernel
slain by a dapper looking asterius ;-;
Em3 takes practice - you can do it!
weary jackal
rapid forum
slain by a dapper looking asterius ;-;
EM3 on 32 heat is quite a wall, so it's ok. PERSEVERE.
raw herald
So many people say that EM3 is easier than non-EM3 and I just can't agree 🙁
reef zodiac
So many people say that EM3 is easier than non-EM3 and I just can't agree 🙁
That’s so so wrong lmao
Especially with the Asterius AOE when he lands
narrow hemlock
i think it may also just depend on how often someone runs em3 and if they enjoy the fight or not. some people may legitimately find it easier
severe pelican
When not on 32 heat I found em3 ..interesting ?
I think it can be easier in some ways
reef zodiac
The Asterius AOE is still really hard for me
reef zodiac
I think it can be easier in some ways
Why, because Theseus doesn’t get in your way as much? Because I used to think that but I don’t anymore
severe pelican
Anyways when I wake up I'm gonna push 32 heat some more but with my stronger weapons, I went chaos shield on a whim
reef zodiac
The Asterius AOE is *still* really hard for me
It’s hard to get the exact balance of dashing in right as the hitbox ends
twin thistle
em3 definitely more of a pain
in regular theseus isnt really much of a threat either
then asterius becomes way more annoying buffed up
twin thistle
also pretty much the easiest attack from him though
rapid forum
So many people say that EM3 is easier than non-EM3 and I just can't agree 🙁
Theseus is easier, Asterius fights like you're wearing red.... wait a min.
raw herald
I find Theseus really hard to aim at with FO2
twin thistle
lol yeah with him running around everywhere bow shots miss alot
rapid forum
I guess with some builds like hunting blades, but at the very least he doesn't block
high island
Zagreus:
Out of nowhere: ratatatata
Zagreus: "No more Acorn."
raw herald
Tis but a scratch
twin thistle
yeah kinda weapon dependent with high burst bow like builds like hera its pretty simple to do tons of damage after baiting a spear throw
also with him running around throwing bombs everywhere it makes avoiding shiny asterius harder imo
twin thistle
be nice if the blast indicator for your own bombs were a different color from theseus' lol
twin thistle
uh i mean the deflected ones
cyan jolt
Ugh I hate the fists
They require skill
I just used 1 death defiance at the hyrdra
In a 2 heat run 🤣
cyan jolt
But I got super op chaos boons
100% extra backstab damage
And I have weak in attack plus dyonisus dash
So that's also extra damage with the mirror
I just need the duo boon for ares and Aphrodite
The one that applies doom you know
stoic flame
that boon sucks
if you have an ares attack
it just keeps resetting
it doesnt even work
maiden bane
What does Guan Yu (Chinese deity) have to do with Hades
I don’t understand why they have other mythology in the game
cyan jolt
it doesnt even work
Ooooooh that explains a lot
cyan jolt
I don’t understand why they have other mythology in the game
Have you ever read Percy Jackson 
oblique mirage
I feel super unlucky, while being super lucky
had run where i got 3x times chaos got for more dash attack dmg
twin shot, 150% more dmg on the charged shot
with crit on attack on bow
raw herald
What does Guan Yu (Chinese deity) have to do with Hades
All of the hidden aspects are named after non-greek people I believe
oblique mirage
and i couldnt fight the hades
oblique mirage
cuz well, 10th fight
maiden bane
Or are there just not enough gods to fill their aspects
oblique mirage
so lucky run wher ei couldnt use it at the end 
forest falcon
Doing a run with ares rn and I can't get an attack or special boon from him
Even got his legendary
Amazing
oblique mirage
beowulf?
stoic flame
its the shield hidden aspect
oblique mirage
welp, aint playing much shield, kinda boring tbh :V but i would take either first or last
stoic flame
yeah i went with blood frenzy
welp i lost to the furies
this heat jumping isnt the smartest idea
raw herald
What's the highest heat you've cleared with beowulf
stoic flame
16 lol
raw herald
Wait hang on
You're in Tartarus with conch shell and you don't have flood flare, did you get vorimed?
(not offered the boon you want after all rerolls)
stoic flame
hmm
raw herald
It's very detrimental
stoic flame
it truly is
oblique mirage
whats orpheus favor?
stoic flame
nullify his deal or whatever
versed vessel
twin thistle
just get plume to three stars and talk to him
hearty sierra
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755615612599926844/884010691562962944/unk...
For future reference, the best boon here is either Blood Frenzy or Ares' Aid
polar marsh
Had the final boss on low health with the rail gun but the green vases stopped me
errant root
I know that feeling
polar marsh
I got angy but atleast i got 2 last hammer upgrades for the rail then i'm switching it for the bow
polar marsh
Yah i noticed on some vids
errant root
You do you
wise oasis
if you just need 1, tight deadline 1 is very lenient
gives you 9 mins per biome, 36 mins total
polar marsh
I did it i beat the final boss with rail
hearty sierra
hmmmmmmmmm splitting headache with low tolerance is +12% crit chance
craggy pumice
rapid agate
I SWEAR
the game has got to be trolling me
this is a completely different run
and on both i bought light of ixion
and the hammer gave me bad choices
spice flame
xd
void cedar
is there no achievement for skelly's third prize?
signal aspen
theres no achievement
void cedar
thank god
raw herald
Speedy
boreal gale
Is there something I'm missing?
signal aspen
boreal gale
Or is it just inexperience
signal aspen
bruh
raw herald
Pretty much
boreal gale
Triple Special on Eris is great.
signal aspen
How are you beating Tart on under 2m ehat
than in tart
boreal gale
I got than in tart
signal aspen
How are you beating Tart on under 2m ehat
than in tart, survival room, chaos chamber, good room rng, level 5 epic cast
boreal gale
Greatest Reflex is probably the best Hermes Boon
wise oasis
But rush delivery
signal aspen
RD is poggers
lone kernel
I've only had one hammer and I'm in Elysium what is this
Second hammer I think won’t spawn until elysium if u already have one
lone kernel
you have eris, you win
boreal gale
I'm sorry but having jolted, Ares special and Dio call deals so much damage
It's unfair
mint coral
Ares special on eris?
signal aspen
boreal gale
Also starting every encounter with 30% God gauge
Is Ares special not good on Eris I take it?
signal aspen
its not
boreal gale
Dem cast as well
mint coral
Rail special has good base damage so a % special gives you big numbers 
mint coral
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659820450297282585/884093016258773002/Scr...
Get ready for 5 sack and tiny rat
signal aspen
ok
lone kernel
signal aspen
probably not gonna get a pb this run so idc
boreal gale
I won't pick up ares special anymore then ig
boreal gale
Proud Bearing Clouded Judgement oh god
lone kernel
Eris go brr
boreal gale
The poor enemies
boreal gale
Sure you can
signal aspen
ok thanks
boreal gale
Can I beat the remainder of Elysium and all of Styx in 2m 28s for a pb?
Definietly
I think my game just glitched
There was the skull explosion effect from the hades fight in the Champions fight?
signal aspen
nah they do that
signal aspen
Can I get through all of Styx in 20s
if you get a 2 sack then yes
stoic flame
4 even
signal aspen
5 seconds per tunnel
boreal gale
like 3 mins
Thats slow?
signal aspen
10 second hades fight
stoic flame
10 seconds hades fight 🥸
boreal gale
I also just hit my 50th run
stoic flame
nice
lone kernel
I also just hit my 50th run
you’re newer to the game than some of us - no shame necessary my dude! If you wanna go fast, start with getting comfortable with FO2 TD3, that’ll go a long way towards future high heat attempts
signal aspen
bruh what is this hammer rng
i just got pulv blow, dashing flight, and explosive return
on beowulf
boreal gale
I won't be running out of dds so at this point I don't need it
signal aspen
just purge it for money
signal aspen
oh
boreal gale
Going into Hades fight with 40% God gauge
Killed dad without dying how very pog
Just over 20m too
If I just go out on a max heat run and die can Meg appear in the house?
signal aspen
if you kill meg then yes
signal aspen
you have to kill her
signal aspen
just turn on HS and kill meg and die in the first chamber of asphodel
boreal gale
HS?
signal aspen
And even then she isn't guaranteed to apepar
i think so
heightened security
makes traps deal more damage
including lava
boreal gale
And don't step on any spikes along the way
manic bobcat
Did you know that when you log into Hades, there is a chance you see a reference to Hollow Knight main menu?
This is a subtle nod to the fact that I likely opened the wrong game.
signal aspen
good job
boreal gale
Well done
signal aspen
wait you can get hollow knight for free?
boreal gale
Why can't I send images in this channel?
manic bobcat
you need to post an embeded link
signal aspen
have you beaten 50 heat?
boreal gale
wait you can get hollow knight for free? <:ron:459075377906712586>
Yeah. I already have it
Oh okay
manic bobcat
so just paste link from imgur
or post in another server that allows image and copy link (not copy image)
signal aspen
yeah thats how you get a girlfriend
boreal gale
Cool I'll use this in the future
Time to go abuse someone with my fists
The lava does so much damage now what
Thats absurdly high
signal aspen
yeah thats why HS sucks
and the pots during the hades fight deal a bunch of damage too
boreal gale
I got Meg and Than to appear in Tart
Why can't I give her ambrosia
She needs 1 ambrosia to max her out and I can't give her it
boreal gale
Why won't this idiot take the drink
boreal gale
No
She needs one ambrosia to max out her cupid arrow hearts and there's no option to give her the ambrosua
boreal gale
No because I spoke to her before
And the option was there
Then once the conversation was done
stoic flame
welp
boreal gale
The option disappeared
stoic flame
f
void vigil
the game saves when you move between rooms
its fine, youll see meg again plenty of times
lone kernel
Not necessarily
void vigil
if im not wrong meg can show up at the house no matter which fury you fight but i could be wrong
well the dialogue is relevant to sisyphus' plotline
boreal gale
Woah did Tisiphones vocabulary just expand a whole letter?
lone kernel
She won’t show up if she beats you until you kill her again
boreal gale
OK time to die and try again ig
Time to bathe in Asphodel!
WAIT ORPHEUS IS SINGING?
brisk trail
Such sadge singing voice
ocean oyster
Is there a good/strong duo boon for Trippy Shot
raw herald
Is there a good/strong duo boon for Trippy Shot
Ice wine, scintillating feast and mirage shot are all good
ocean oyster
I see, thanks!
ocean oyster
Ice wine, scintillating feast and mirage shot are all good
What’s Mirage Shot? I don’t see it in Dionysus’ codex
raw herald
Artemis + poseidon
It makes every cast also fire out another cast that is 30% of the power of the original cast
So 1.3× cast damage
raw herald
However, it's bugged on the hidden shield aspect and is 2× damage on that
So its even more busted
ocean oyster
Oh Lol
@raw herald Is there a way to increase my chances of getting the boons I want?
Like the keepsakes work at the beginning of the first map, but that’s really it
raw herald
Unlocking the full mirror
The stuff at the bottom makes getting good builds way more consistent
vapid narwhal
you can swap keepsake in between
god keepsake for the first two biomes is a common strategy
ocean oyster
god keepsake for the first two biomes is a common strategy
What keepsake is that?
ocean oyster
The stuff at the bottom makes getting good builds way more consistent
30 keys to unlock?
vapid narwhal
any keepsake from god
raw herald
I think so
brisk trail
so how do i get to gift skelly more
vapid narwhal
you need a contractor upgrade to be able to swap between biomes
ocean oyster
god keepsake for the first two biomes is a common strategy
Oh yeah but the thing is, when I switch my keep sake out before I head into the second or third biome, it never seems to work
My next boon is usually not what it’s supposed to be
ocean oyster
You mean it's Hermes?
Hmm, well in the first map, the first boon is just there at the beginning laying around. For the other biomes, I never see that boon or even gates that are the same as my god keepsake
ocean oyster
you need a contractor upgrade to be able to swap between biomes
Oh that might be it
vapid narwhal
the guaranteed god only works one single time
ocean oyster
Actually wait, I can swap keepsakes in between
vapid narwhal
you can see a number below the keepsake
warm kite
Hmm, well in the first map, the first boon is just there at the beginning laying...
mmm. the first boob
ocean oyster
So I don’t think that
vapid narwhal
once it's used up, it no longer guarantees
ocean oyster
mmm. the first boob
😳
vapid narwhal
which is why people swap to a different god keepsake they want
ocean oyster
which is why people swap to a different god keepsake they want
I see, but when I switch god keepsakes between biomes, why doesn’t it guarantee those new gods?
vapid narwhal
because rooms are not guaranteed to be a "god room"
jade zenith
if you switch between biomes then the next non hermes boon will be the one you selected
vapid narwhal
the keepsake only guarantees that if a room RNGed into a god room, it will be the one from the keepsake
the room has to RNG into a god room in the first place
warm kite
i keep dying from the bull or theusus and its really annoying
jade zenith
the game can still spawn hermes, gold, poms or hammers and the other currencies before you get your god
vapid narwhal
which is why you want Dark Foresight
ocean oyster
which is why you want Dark Foresight
Mirror upgrade?
ocean oyster
Is that the 30 key upgrade
boreal gale
You don't need to kill Meg for Meg to appear in the house whooooo
vapid narwhal
Dark Foresight, God's Legacy/God's Favor, Fated Persuasion/Authority
boreal gale
Max hearts with Meg
vapid narwhal
(I cant remember the other one because I havent used it for forever lmao)
warm kite
is it just me or the murrrrdeeerrrrr sister so much easier to beat
boreal gale
For me, Tis is the easiest until EM is put on
warm kite
cause if you have divine dash its so easy
vapid narwhal
Alecto is the hardest, Tis and Meg are both pretty easy (this is on EM)
EM Alecto can be quite annoying
ocean oyster
For me, Tis is the easiest until EM is put on
Tis and the murder sister are the same person Lol
brisk trail
what is EM
warm kite
yeah…
boreal gale
Extreme Measures
brisk trail
oh
boreal gale
Tis and the murder sister are the same person Lol
I know. I was just referring to her by name lol
Wait how come there was no relationship option when maxing Megs hearts?
ocean oyster
I know. I was just referring to her by name lol
Oh haha
vapid narwhal
wait till you see it 
warm kite
muurrrrddderrr
boreal gale
Tisiphone has evolved her Vocabulary by a whole word
She can now say Zah and Zag
But still defaults to murderer
warm kite
cant she say murderer
warm kite
4 whole word im proud
warm kite
have you seen the new suicide squad
boreal gale
Yes
boreal gale
BAD
warm kite
theres no way we said the same thing
warm kite
ight see ya
is it bad that i have like 40 hours in this game and i got it last thursday
olive goblet
untold oak
One message removed from a suspended account.
warm kite
hades
void vigil
what do you mean by "here"?
untold oak
One message removed from a suspended account.
void vigil
i think theyre all really good and worth playing
but theyre much shorter than hades for starters
void vigil
maybe we could move this conversation to #supergiant-games if were going to talk about all games :]
torn geyser
Hey all. Any reason to suspect an expansion or additional content for Hades? I completed it earlier this year and have been holding out hope for a reason to return. Tweaked weapon aspects would be cool to.
raw herald
Basically no chance of that happening tbh
There's still a lot to do in the base game, I'm still finding new stuff to do with ~350 hours in the game
torn geyser
Sure, but most of the weapon aspects are sort of bad in my opinion. Like Zag Sword. Would love to see them re-worked, or a Hammer/Axe type weapon added. Hades was so succesful I think it would merit a Game of the Year type re-launch with new content.
raw herald
Yeah, but tbf the zag aspects cost way less, so making them way better than the others doesn't make sense
Zag sword at least works with rush delivery, and since movement speed is multiplicative, it's a decent amount of extra damage
torn geyser
I don't think it should be better, I think it could have more merit. Some of the aspects are just exponentially better than others, which hurts replay value to me somewhat. Half of the aspects are really strong and the other half are questionable at best.
raw herald
Yeah fair enough
I think almost every aspect has its place, zag sword is not one of those
void vigil
ofc it has its place, how else would you get rib 
raw herald
I genuinely didn't unlock that until a few days ago
void vigil
raw herald
I also haven't done the feast
reef zodiac
Sure, but most of the weapon aspects are sort of bad in my opinion. Like Zag Swo...
Don’t even get me started on Hades spear
raw herald
All this, but I've beat 50 heat
narrow hemlock
the supergiant team only recently got their playstation/xbox ports out, i highly doubt things like a game of the year edition or something has been remotely on their mind
polar marsh
Can u go through the dungeon chambers without having to put in heat or are u forced to put in heat
mint coral
Only forced to use heat in hell mode
polar marsh
Oof
mint coral
But you will only receive darkness if you keep playing in 0 heat
polar marsh
Glad i'm on normal
void vigil
i was really scared of playing with heat on for a good while, but its actually fun as long as you dont go too high and dont choose the most difficult modifiers
well. some people enjoy high heat though
mint coral
I somehow was more scared of things like HL than FO/MM/EM at the start ww
But same, didnt touch much in the heat for a while
polar marsh
Imagine max heat in hell mode u have to be insane and have balls of steel to be able to handle that kind of challenge
torn geyser
I'm doing 20 heat and its not too bad right now. EM4 is the only thing that really gets me. I think darking out the screen is overkill
But if you have a good build you just melt Hades regardless so
brisk trail
Hi I just wanted to say I have never played with a game that I enjoyed that much as Hades. Amazing gameplay, artwork, story, music. It's just an incredible experience overall, and I'm happy to have this game.
void vigil
max heat in hell mode has only been done once and it was "routed" - meaning the run was manipulated so every reward and room was planned in advance and the run was basically perfect. its pretty much impossible otherwise
polar marsh
Dam
mint coral
What were the pacts left out for the 61 heat?
ocean oyster
I’ve beaten Hades for the second time with my heat gauge full but I’m not sure where the bounties are
void vigil
i dont know, probably RI
signal aspen
What were the pacts left out for the 61 heat?
ri4 and cp2 i think
mint coral
I’ve beaten Hades for the second time with my heat gauge full but I’m not sure w...
The bounties are the titan blood x 2 the diamond and ambrosia
polar marsh
They're on the left side of the screen you'll see the bounties there
signal aspen
raw herald
Such a lean build
polar marsh
Shield for 61 heat dam
boreal gale
So do I just need to do a run and then the Meg thing will happen?
proud shuttle
Just started a new save file and it's been a while since I played last. To unlock aspects I just need to buy minor list of prophs and then reach end boss right?
signal aspen
you need to unlock all weapons to unlock aspects
signal aspen
So do I just need to do a run and then the Meg thing will happen?
hopefully
proud shuttle
So no need to reach bad man?
void vigil
I'm doing 20 heat and its not too bad right now. EM4 is the only thing that real...
em4 on 20 heat
polar marsh
Get codex and prophecys early
signal aspen
So no need to reach bad man?
yeah you dont have to
boreal gale
you need to unlock all weapons to unlock aspects
And you need to have access to at least one titan blood iirc
raw herald
Shield for 61 heat dam
Both Zeus shield and Beowulf are top tier for high heat, blocking and doing damage at the same time is OP
ocean oyster
Does conditions such as hard labor and calisthenics program affect bosses?
signal aspen
yes
raw herald
Yep
polar marsh
Its like captain america on ambrosia
ocean oyster
Lol damn
polar marsh
Mix those 2 with extreme conditions and you'll see a hard fight
ocean oyster
And does in game time still go on when you are checking your codex/on the boon selection page
void vigil
nope
it does when youre checking your boons in the little side menu though
that doesnt pause the game
polar marsh
Kinda dumb aint it
void vigil
i never thought about it. it doesnt pause the game so it makes sense to me that it doesnt pause the time
ocean oyster
Hmmm should I use fated authority or fated persuasion
astral panther
I prefer authority
signal aspen
persuasion
ocean oyster
I never used either so idk much about them
astral panther
I always reroll keys and gems
raw herald
You can force gods in with keepsakes anyway, authority is only really the best for max gold runs
And keys are good to get rerolls
astral panther
Granted my goal is the platinum
So close just need to finished the Patroclus quest
void vigil
remember when persuasion wasnt in the game and max authority was 10
polar marsh
And hammer runs when trying to get prophecys done
south lagoon
i never actually finished unlocking authority in the mirror cuz i never use it and i wanted the. the fancy title more
void vigil
when it got reduced to 8 and the prices were adjusted down i got refunded back so much darkness
the fancy title is so much darkness... the grind is neverending
polar marsh
Nice
astral panther
Oh than I only need the 2250 for max Authority
Thought the 2k was going to be the last and was like good LORD
ocean oyster
Aight what about Dark Regeneration or Chtonic Vitality
signal aspen
i like chthonic vitality
mint coral
Chtonic bc dsrk foresight makes darkness poof (not entirely but whatever)
- no darkness in styx
lost ermine
Yeah cthonic really pops off in styx
raw herald
And the healing at the end of bosses is usually overkill with fountains
ocean oyster
I see yeah, also what does Dark Foresight do exactly?
raw herald
You get more gold laurel doors
jade zenith
you get more of the run specific rewards and less of the permanent ones
raw herald
Gold laurel doors are ones that affect the current run, blue laurel doors are meta-currencies
polar marsh
More hammers, boons etc
raw herald
Usually they appear 50:50, with dark foresight the ratio is 30:70 of blue:gold
So it's a huge increase
ocean oyster
Between Olympian favor and that, what should I prioritize
raw herald
You'll generally see about 6-7 more boons when you turn it on, and you'll get more gold which you'll be able to spend in shops
Definitely dark foresight
jade zenith
foresight is better
ocean oyster
Okay thanks guys for the help
I used the reset thing and now I’m trying to spread out my darkness the best I can
jade zenith
you might want to pick favour if you are still looking for nectar or something
ocean oyster
I have 5000 to spend but damn, persuasion is so expensive
ocean oyster
you might want to pick favour if you are still looking for nectar or something
Oh ye
polar marsh
The chamber switching one is good for prophecy runs you're trying to get done
lone kernel
Aight what about Dark Regeneration or Chtonic Vitality
Also an important note here is once you get the bonuses for in game runs for the currency, you literally would always have a reroll from a key over 5 health and 6 healing
boreal gale
Does having the Megaera symbol buff her keepsake at all?
signal aspen
no
stoic flame
bruh
brisk trail
WTF
signal aspen
bruh
brisk trail
I did note beat heat 57
reef zodiac
Yeah we know
signal aspen
lmao
brisk trail
The highest I got is heat 43
stoic flame
._.
reef zodiac
Meg: “I don’t know if I can stop you anymore, but I can slow you down.”
Me with 130 health and 5 seconds on the clock: ….
stoic flame
🗿
signal aspen
speedrun the meg fight
reef zodiac
The highest I got is heat 43
Mmm hmm
brisk trail
I hate my brother
reef zodiac
Sorry man but I don’t think anyone is gonna believe that was your brother
There’s really no point
brisk trail
Welp
reef zodiac
Breaching Cross is strong
Very true
void vigil
yep, its the best
signal aspen
i remember getting a 1 second butterfly ball fight with eris
well not 1 second but very fast
signal aspen
what did you use?
raw herald
Dio beo infernal soul
stoic flame
beo trash ez
signal aspen
oh nice
signal aspen
just route your run to get mirage shot
void vigil
i get it so often.... when im playing arthur and have no cast
stoic flame
yes
raw herald
Just get it in Tartarus miniboss smh
signal aspen
stoic flame
🥴
raw herald
Holy, I'm looking back at the vod and each cast did 1400 damage, pre mirage shot
stoic flame
balls
reef zodiac
Lol butterfly ball in under 10s
Let me know when you kill it without any ads spawning
stoic flame
i hate when ur going in with ur fully loaded beo
boreal gale
Theseus doesn't even get to use his second stage its funny
stoic flame
and it TPs
boreal gale
Artemis Call just murders bosses
reef zodiac
Fully Loaded isn’t real
reef zodiac
Artemis Call just murders bosses
and does almost nothing in normal rooms
signal aspen
~~and does almost nothing in normal rooms~~
it can easily kill the tiny rats in styx
boreal gale
~~and does almost nothing in normal rooms~~
Yeah but Breaching Cross ME
reef zodiac
Oh actually true
boreal gale
So ordinary rooms are a cakewalk
reef zodiac
it can easily kill the tiny rats in styx
raw herald
10 arrows equals 10 rats, think about it
reef zodiac
So ordinary rooms are a cakewalk
Tbh that actually makes a lot of sense. Are you looking for DR?
reef zodiac
Deadly Reversal
boreal gale
Is that Artemis Athena?
stoic flame
is that the duo
signal aspen
duo boon for artemis and athena
stoic flame
its so
signal aspen
its very good with ME
reef zodiac
insignificant
Nah, it’s super strong with ME that’s just not true
boreal gale
No. I just bring Arty Call with me all the time
reef zodiac
No. I just bring Arty Call with me all the time
That’s questionable but whatever you enjoy
boreal gale
I've never even come across DR