#h1-discussion
lunar crane
mint coral
Take Heightened security and regret your choices 5 seconds later
signal aspen
Well stop doing that
mint coral
Thanks hypnos
terse finch
what the max level for boon i tho was 4 but i got my common at 5
thorn marsh
there's no max level for a boon
unless u mean rarity then the max rarity for a normal boon would be heroic
terse finch
so can i keep upgrading them?
thorn marsh
so can i keep upgrading them?
ye
thorn marsh
well there's sort of a limit
terse finch
But there is any reason to go up with lo rarity?
thorn marsh
the amount of poms/upgrades u can get in a run
thorn marsh
But there is any reason to go up with lo rarity?
absolutely if the boon is good
if the boon is insignificant and doesnt do much dont waste a pom on it though
terse finch
so normal pom increase of 1 (half is just random ) but there is double pom too right or that got removed?
i didn't get one ever only hear of the legned of the double pom
lost ermine
There is double pom, you can get it from erebus gates and styx
mint coral
Erebus gates, expensive poms and sweet nectar duo
thorn marsh
sweet nectar also allows +2 poms
lost ermine
If you have Sweet Nectar the double poms become triple poms
thorn marsh
the miniboss poms in styx are double poms
mint coral
Imagine if sweet nectar afected the pom keepsake (wich name i never remember) 
thorn marsh
if only
thorn marsh
Imagine if sweet nectar afected the pom keepsake (wich name i never remember) <:...
it is le pom blossom
terse finch
IF i want have a run with no boons I tried to start with the keepsake of the dude with the rock but evry time i get a god boon and the keepsake is usless anyway to avoide those?
Or the only possibilty is to spend Darkness at the mirror
mint coral
For total boonless run you want the fated authority to re roll boon rewards
mint coral
Tho you cant avoid mini boss boons
thorn marsh
so what u do
mint coral
(maybe with luck of erebus/chaos)
thorn marsh
is u unbind the ability that the boon affects and not use that ability until u sell the boon
terse finch
its wierd that u cannot sell them immidialty but if you try to upgrade boons that cannoot be upgrade with the pom you get only 115 gold
mint coral
Is a random amount of gold i think
thorn marsh
its wierd that u cannot sell them immidialty but if you try to upgrade boons tha...
poms are regularly 100 gold
so thats profit
unless they are expansive poms in styx
terse finch
how much is the discount for the loyalty card?
mint coral
20%
terse finch
is the only way to get discount?
mint coral
Ye
terse finch
there is no keepsake that increase your money gain by doing a challenge ?
Plutus or something like that. I know there isn't
mint coral
Hermes boon gives a bit of money by each chamber
dry mauve
there's a mirror talent that gives you more money at the end of each biome
cunning moon
yo im ab to get the game any tips
modern garnet
"Dont get hit lmao'
terse finch
you can try luck with the giving the drink to the rock you get 6% more coin if am not wrong
cunning moon
ok so what r boons
terse finch
i have no idea what is the mini tunnel
mint coral
Those small chambers before the last chamber with the reward
terse finch
I thought you need to do all of them
modern garnet
Once you get the bag you can leave
mint coral
Styx work this way
You pick a tunnel then kill any rats until the last chamber for your reward then go back to the shop
After that any other tunnel will have a chance to have a sack and a fountain
Once you get it you can just give it to cerb then styx is done
You can still do other tunnels but they wont have fountains
kind swan
ok so what r boons
Boons are the abilities you get from the various Gods
onyx leaf
Only took visiting Chaos like 20 times but I finally got the voiceline to come up again
Hopefully my game doesn't bug out a 2nd time
terse finch
I got the pc to crash only 1 time proably was some audio memory leack issue
onyx leaf
It didn't even crash I was just stuck in place and couldn't move at all
terse finch
you got cliped inside an object?
cunning moon
Boons are the abilities you get from the various Gods
do they reset each run
gloomy mantle
do they reset each run
Yes
thorn marsh
do they reset each run
well the boons are random
u can have a set god pool of 4 excluding hermes
cunning moon
im so wxcited to get home from work to play
onyx leaf
you got cliped inside an object?
Yeah, one of the little boats in Asphodel
Or whatever you would call them
terse finch
rafts, but yeah those are kinda wierd the balls for the level are solid objects too so there could happend wierd intectation with the moving platfrom
onyx leaf
Yeah and of course it happens the 1 time I'm trying to get an aspect and it takes it away lol
white leaf
Any tips for getting ||Thanatos|| spawns? Need to max their hearts for one of my last achievements
onyx leaf
I'll finally have it after this run though
onyx leaf
Any tips for getting ||Thanatos|| spawns? Need to max their hearts for one of my...
It's just random
As far as I know there's no real way to get him to show up more or less often in runs
thorn marsh
yeah its random
white leaf
Ah well, I'm only halfway through maxing the keepsakes so it'll come eventually
Just wanted to know if there was a method to get him to appear more
terse finch
assuming you did all the dialoge in Tartarus with the guy with the rock?
terse finch
there should be one without him with the guy with the rock that says he shouldn't re appear again for a while.
near dune
I’ve talked to Achilles like 15 times and he still won’t let me gift to him
It’s locked
thorn marsh
there should be one without him with the guy with the rock that says he shouldn'...
what are u talking about?
white leaf
Sisyphus I presume
terse finch
@thorn marsh no idea. I just wanted to figure out at what dialogue he was
thorn marsh
that has nothing to do with the rng of than showing up iirc
terse finch
idk since then i got him evry times in my run in the frist room of tatarus and asfa thing there with the red staff. more rare occation at the eli thing
thorn marsh
its rng
terse finch
I must have a super seed
shut vale
gentle mason
I’ve talked to Achilles like 15 times and he still won’t let me gift to him
What is the status of Patroclus?
wet frigate
Eris Rail with Apro Special, I had Triple Bomb and Rocket Bomb on it
I also used a than at the start of the fight
near dune
What is the status of Patroclus?
Like 2 hearts
fiery bramble
Arthur's has been really underwhelming for me
near dune
Can someone help me
fiery bramble
Doesn't seem to be too useful if you're not getting hit too much, and without an attack speed upgrade it just feels weak
near dune
How do you complete dark reflections?
fiery bramble
You have to beat Hades with both sides of the mirror filled, so one run with the red side filled, one run with the green side filled. I believe, I may be off
Idk if it needs to be one point in each side of the mirror, or maxed
wet frigate
You dont have to do the entire side, just make sure you use each one, so if you want you can set it to the mirror you usually use and then just swap one
You dont have to do each side all at once
fiery bramble
Ah ok
Is there a way to track which mirror bonuses were used and which weren't?
I think there may be a prophecy for that I'll check after this run
near dune
Gotcha
twin thistle
wait a sec. so you can use the acorn to save scum boss fights huh 
jade kraken
does anybody know of a mod that lets you add whatever boons/daedulus buffs you want?
i cant find one on nexus
thorn marsh
or just the start?
jade kraken
and start a new world
thorn marsh
u could codex mod
jade kraken
oh thx
gentle mason
Like 2 hearts
Give him more Nectar
wet frigate
Yeah
twin thistle
clear usually means getting all the way to the end and beating the end boss
cunning moon
oh damn wtf go off
wet frigate
Beat the game
cunning moon
im just waiti g to get off work then imma start my first runs! so hype
i let it download while im at work it should be done when i get home
wet frigate
Have fun! Its a great game
Just note that this is a spoiler welcome chat #h1-for-new-players is the non spoiler 
tulip ridge
can you take chaos portals with <22 hp if you aren’t holding the egg?
tulip ridge
Shame
short glen
Dang, I wish it just killed you mid animation, would be hilarious
fiery bramble
Theseus just called me out for hiding behind pillars lmfao
modern garnet
In asphodel and elysium you could activate enough traps to activate a defiance so you'd have enough health
tulip ridge
I was gonna run guan yu, which took my health down to 15, and was wondering what would happen
Kinda sad it doesn’t kill you in the animation
fiery bramble
Just lost a 13 win streak, forgot what it felt like
wise oasis
Dang, I wish it just killed you mid animation, would be hilarious
I wish it did, and that chaos would laugh at you for it
gentle mason
I was gonna run guan yu, which took my health down to 15, and was wondering what...
Running Guan Yu Level 1 without Thick Skin is pretty tough, good luck.
short glen
Theseus just called me out for hiding behind pillars lmfao
if hiding behind pillars wasn't allowed, there wouldn't be pillars here, suck it theseus
that's me when he says those things
tulip ridge
Running Guan Yu Level 1 without Thick Skin is pretty tough, good luck.
ya, I’m in elysium with 30 max hp lol
gentle mason
ya, I’m in elysium with 30 max hp lol
making it to elysium with that little max health is solid. 🙂
tulip ridge
:)
hollow magnet
On a great run
3 defiances in the Styx
Shield of chaos +2 shields thrown after a bullrush, +200% special damage after a dash, +48% special damage from chaos, attacks and bullrush inflict doom, dash leaves a blade rift, battle rage
This might be the run
opaque heron
What boon did your shield throw get?
opaque heron
Niiiice. Did you get the Duo Boon?
opaque heron
Yeah, that little boon does so much lol
hollow magnet
Dionysus build on shield is OP as fudgesickles
opaque heron
Just keep in mind, even walking into the Final Boss w/ 3 DDs can still go poorly.
gentle mason
Curse of Nausea while throwing multiple shields is pretty great.
opaque heron
Not gonna lie I had a case where I walked in with 4 DDs (Thanks Chaos) and still lost
wise oasis
Just stay calm and you got this
hollow magnet
And +10% special speed
wise oasis
Don't get excited and take your time
opaque heron
Oh, I also have + 4 bounces on the shield
Too bad the extra bounces don’t apply to the multi-throw :/
hollow magnet
Just a question, is it just me or do the bonus shields from Chaos just come back to you immediately ?
Yeah I thought so
It would be broke as [REDACTED] otherwise
opaque heron
The bonus shields effectively don’t matter for getting your attack back if that’s what you mean.
hollow magnet
No I mean they just hit an enemy once then go away
They don't bounce between enemies
Anyway
opaque heron
They don't bounce between enemies
Yes, iirc.
hollow magnet
Should I do the skull rooms first in Styx ?
gentle mason
Should I do the skull rooms first in Styx ?
Also, they give better stuff as well.
signal aspen
Poggers
lime garnet
These are all commands to improve performance?: /DrawBlendMax=8 /DrawLights=false /DrawColorGrading=false /DrawBloom=false /UseSwapEffectDiscard=true /UseLowResAssets=true
thorn marsh
These are all commands to improve performance?: /DrawBlendMax=8 /DrawLights=fals...
wat?
lime garnet
advanced options on steam
thorn marsh
oh i got no idea
gentle mason
These are all commands to improve performance?: /DrawBlendMax=8 /DrawLights=fals...
feels like a question for #h1-tech-support channel
hollow magnet
Second Phase
3 Defiances
225 health
YES
YESYESYESYESYESYESYES
First victory !
signal aspen
Nice
whole ridge
Just a quick lesson for people struggling on Hades.
Don't get greedy
That is all.
I poked in and messages were a little ways back.
whole ridge
Yeah, the spin attack especially. He goes far enough with it that just dodging into him causes it to whiff more often than not.
What gets me more often than not in his fight is when he summons the adds on phase 1, as if I don't have armor break stuff usually they can take a second as Hades gives them rather bulky armor
His lasers if you have the time are best just dodged into to hug up dad because they miss if you're right on him, first half of second phase he can't get them turned around fast enough if you get behind him, free damage both cases. And if ya can't close the gap in time just hide behind the pillars
The pots can be rough if you don't take care of them though, as Hades can break them too
short glen
just use arthur, pots can't hurt you in holy ground
mint coral
Or if you have any damage dealing dash, just dash through them
short glen
shhh, I'm advertising for arthur, I'm getting paid to do this
raw herald
Or do both, damaging dash on Arthur
whole ridge
Arthur is amazing I agree, but for those that haven't had a clear yet can be a little hard to get.
Because it at bare minimum costs 12 Blood to get, 5 blood used to unlock at least 5 second aspects on weapons, 4 more blood put into the sword, and then another 3 to unlock it.
And if ya haven't beat Hades yet, you can only get 6 from bounties
Well, until you beat Hades for the first time, then doors really open up
I just need 6 more blood to have unlocked every aspect. Then I'm gonna set up all the hidden aspects on display and probably drop the game for a while xD
I also need to get to Asterius to get the awakening words for Gilgamesh too
gentle mason
I also need to get to Asterius to get the awakening words for Gilgamesh too
You mean unlock every aspect then not fully upgrade every aspect.
whole ridge
Yes
I don't have the time or life to grind out a total of 306 Titan Blood
So having them all available is enough for me
I already completed the story anywho
fiery bramble
I can't wait to grind out 306 Titan blood
whole ridge
Paperwork with Meg? Don't think so. I did a bit of tumbling with her in the bedroom though.
ripe rapids
Paperwork with Meg? Don't think so. I did a bit of tumbling with her in the bed...
look up the vid, hilarious
ripe rapids
Drunken Rail is sus
whole ridge
Ooo~ neat
ripe rapids
consent is important
hollow magnet
My best runs have been with him and the Shield
I almost beat Hades' first phase on like my 5th run with a crazy hangover build
whole ridge
His call is better than I gave it credit for prior. Don't even need to use the full call.
mint coral
His call is better than I gave it credit for prior. Don't even need to use the ...
most call dont need full tbf
raw herald
A lot of people think cast is useless, and I strongly disagree
ripe rapids
Dio cast? or in general
ripe rapids
cast is free ranged dmg
gentle mason
Is it me or is Cast completely useless
casts are awesome, you just have to think differently for cast builds
raw herald
Well, it's another damage source, what's not to like
ripe rapids
unless you want close range casts like a weirdo?
raw herald
Even with no boon, it still does 50 damage and can cancel attack/special animations and be cancelled itself
mint coral
unless you want close range casts like a weirdo?
hera moment
gentle mason
Is it me or is Cast completely useless
also Boiling Blood damage bonus is great for big health enemies.
raw herald
Current anyheat speedrun wr uses a cast build, they are ridiculously strong when built correctly
thorn marsh
His call is better than I gave it credit for prior. Don't even need to use the ...
most calls dont full call lul
whole ridge
I'm used to Artemis' where saving for full gives you double the arrows anyways xD
But yeah, I noticed.
thorn marsh
oh
gentle mason
And the top of leaderboard for anyheat is pretty much all cast aspects with a little bit of Eris Rail sprinkled.
thorn marsh
And the top of leaderboard for anyheat is pretty much all cast aspects with a li...
it use to just be eris
raw herald
Then people realised that Eris is pretty stinky
mint coral
"oops, all eris"
whole ridge
Poseidon's is good, especially if ya get the boon that adds an extra second or more, then you can use it like, whenever ya want
thorn marsh
eris suffers in sub 6 consistency because of its needs for clockets and u can only hit that top end until as late as first room in elysium
while achilles can hit there top end way sooner
and so can beo
mint coral
eris needs poseidon dash, jolted, cluster rockets
(unless im forgetting somthing else)
well not need but wants
raw herald
Hermes
thorn marsh
the only problem is clockets imo
whole ridge
I am rather curious what using the greater call in the trial of gods thing would do though, as I never get to it before finishing the room
And there's an achievement for it
thorn marsh
it just acts like a regular call
mint coral
the god just comments on it iirc
whole ridge
Ah
mint coral
i used asphodel for that even if i play on switch
gentle mason
And there's an achievement for it
It is pretty easy to do in Elysium by just letting the enemies respawn until the full call is ready.
thorn marsh
i think its easier in asphodel and faster if u fine with taking a dd or two just for an achievement
hollow magnet
Just a question, the Aspect of Eris buff doesn't stack right ?
thorn marsh
no
thorn marsh
which is exactly why it doesnt stack
gentle mason
Just a question, the Aspect of Eris buff doesn't stack right ?
but it does apply to all damage that you do which is still great.
hollow magnet
After having tried all the weapons, right now my tierlist is
Aegis >> Rail >= Fists > Bow > Spear >>> Sword
I really think the sword is useless, even though people have told me it has crazy damage if you use Nemesis and do DS > DS > Special repeat
lament night
I am rather curious what using the greater call in the trial of gods thing would...
Does like nothing lol I gave up a decent run to use defiance’s and take enough damage to use the greater call
Achievements pretty cool tho
weary jackal
You ever just backflip on someone so hard they die
Rush Kick is a really weird hammer
Fun with the aspect of Demeter though
daring saddle
Hello guys,
I know this probably has been asked multiple times... but as a small streamer who love playing Hades on stream, I'd like to also play the Hades soundtracks (which I love) while I'm in the just chatting section of Twitch. I've tried to reach the Supergiant team through this link a few weeks ago, but I didn't get any answer 😦 https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/policy-on-lets-play-videos/
Is there any other way to get an approval ?
(oh and, I'm an affiliate, which means I can receive money from my viewers for my work as a streamer. Which means my stream is monetised)
manic bobcat
How do you die fishing o.o
short glen
lava
mint coral
tried to pick reward, zag decides to fish
manic river
Just beat father for the first time
weary jackal
Do it again 
high island
Hello guys,
I know this probably has been asked multiple times... but as a smal...
The team was mostly on vacation during that time, so maybe just wait a little longer for a reply.
weary jackal
The pact of punishment adds modifiers to a run in exchange for extra boss rewards (blood, diamonds, Ambrosia)
modern garnet
it's got an explanation when you click the question mark
weary jackal
Yeah
high island
Just try it out.
daring saddle
The team was mostly on vacation during that time, so maybe just wait a little lo...
Oh I hadn't thought about the vacation ! You're right I'll wait a little longer 🙂
weary jackal
Whatever you do, don’t turn all of them on unless you wish for a swift and painful death
soft echo
^
modern garnet
usually when you try to get a reward you already using a weapon, you get darkness instead
but if you raise the pact by 1 heat every time, you get the regular boss rewards again
soft echo
I have 165 hours in Hades and I still can't do EM4 and sometimes even EM3 with certain other pacts on
modern garnet
pacts make other pacts harder
soft echo
EM3 is hard with +40% enemy attacks and +20% speed and attack speed
modern garnet
EM3 and nothin else is a breeze once you learn it
weary jackal
EM4’s music is incredible tho
weary jackal
I’m so glad I chose to buy it
5 diamonds is steep though
soft echo
I'm in the faze of grinding for the themes at this point
All my weapons are maxed, bonds, companions
weary jackal
I’m still pretty early game tbh
soft echo
How?
soft echo
What game..?
weary jackal
Warframe
soft echo
Neat
limber fossil
If I use eris rail and get the hammer upgrade that lets me rapid fire more specials, does the damage buff stack?
weary jackal
No
limber fossil
Damn
weary jackal
I’ve had The Unseen Ones stuck in my head for hours
Really boils my blood
proper mirage
In Hades, yes. In actual Greek mythology, he's her dad apparently.
plucky latch
yes
fiery bramble
I was reading in to Zagreus earlier, a lot I didn't know about him. The stuff about Dionysus was crazy
Dio skin please
granite ether
In *Hades,* yes. In actual Greek mythology, he's her dad apparently.
Yes, but this is hades we're talking about and on top of this there's very many differant interpretations of greek mythology
proper mirage
Yes, but this is hades we're talking about and on top of this there's very many ...
True, but that seems to be the foremost result when I was reading about it; Hades got me into Greek mythology again since GOW 2018.
weary jackal
I was reading in to Zagreus earlier, a lot I didn't know about him. The stuff ab...
Isn’t there a bit where Zagreus and Dionysus play a prank on Orpheus by making him think they’re the same person or something to that effect?
winter zealot
Dio skin please
that would be beautiful. i feel like drawing that now
granite ether
Isn’t there a bit where Zagreus and Dionysus play a prank on Orpheus by making h...
Yep , there is
fiery bramble
Isn’t there a bit where Zagreus and Dionysus play a prank on Orpheus by making h...
Bruh, not a prank necessarily. It ties in to actual Greek Mythology, essentially Dionysus is derived from/combined with Zagreus in a lot of ways. It's a lot to get into but really cool
gentle mason
Isn’t there a bit where Zagreus and Dionysus play a prank on Orpheus by making h...
Yes, Zag even tries to take it back later in the game.
weary jackal
I have read nothing of actual Greek myth
And so I shall take Hades’ word as gospel
granite ether
I would say, don't take any single telling of greek myth as gospel
fiery bramble
Don't take any myth as gospel lol
granite ether
Basically lol
fiery bramble
Regardless of the interpretation, there are standardized beliefs of a lot of different stories. Greek mythology isn't really a lost form of storytelling
weary jackal
I’m just now reminded of that one Alan Watt speech from Everything
Everything is a weird game
worthy vault
everytime i try to gift someone it just opens a menu how do i actually gift them
weary jackal
Are you pressing the right button?
granite ether
Are you using kbm or controller @worthy vault
worthy vault
controller
granite ether
R2 is the button to press to gift people
It should come up as a prompt when you're about to talk to them
Something like, R2; -1 
: gift
weary jackal
It’s always somewhat upsetting when Than or Dusa just vanish after you gift them something even when they had dialogue otherwise
fiery bramble
Or when you talk to them first and forget to gift
Though I guess both scenarios are still rewarding
worthy vault
for some reason it doesnt work on controller but i just used keyboard for it and it worked
weary jackal
Weird
azure surge
I'm beating the game by just dashing and omg dashing with ares blad rift, why is it so powerful lol
kind swan
...has that Tiny Rat boss always been a thing, or was that added in the patch that dropped a few days ago?
weary jackal
The tiny rat boss has been in the game for a while yeah
He’s just weirdly uncommon compared to the dire satyr and giant vermin
kind swan
And the giant snakestone
weary jackal
I forgot it existed
Also, what modifiers does hell mode put on? ‘Cause I assume it’s Hard Labour 1, Callisthenics 1 and Forced Overtime 1
brave portal
Isn’t there a bit where Zagreus and Dionysus play a prank on Orpheus by making h...
I mean in the myths zagreus is an avatar of dionysus
chrome wharf
Also, what modifiers does hell mode put on? ‘Cause I assume it’s Hard Labour 1, ...
HL1 LC1 CP1 JS1 PL
fiery bramble
I'm just not gonna use the sword anymore
weary jackal
Arthur is the only sword aspect I like
Glad I got Rama and Arthur literally immediately after Guan Yu
ember cypress
Just got my first victory FeelsGoodMan, hands were shaking
weary jackal
Do it again
ember cypress
Of course of course, feels like a huge load off though now Ima just mess around, farm and try to get Titan's blood and all that
short glen
He’s just weirdly uncommon compared to the dire satyr and giant vermin
Probably because he's not nearly as funny if he shows up frequently
south lagoon
^ he's gotta be unexpected
pliant walrus
uh, what is the method to reroll the first boon/hammer you get when you start a run? I forgot
not using the dice
fiery bramble
I just beat Charon with no boons except Poseidons fishing one, no hammers, and using Zags Sword Aspect, first time ever fighting him lol what a mess
chrome wharf
uh, what is the method to reroll the first boon/hammer you get when you start a ...
If you get a boon first, you can get another by using a keepsake. Don't think you can reroll if the first is a hammer
except dying
hearty sierra
The god pool is restricted to 4~5 gods, max
Resets by dying/winning
I don't think purging the boon works to expand the pool
hearty sierra
I just beat Charon with no boons except Poseidons fishing one, no hammers, and u...
Well done - not an easy fight for beginners!
His attacks are easy to read but hit wide and hurt like hell
fiery bramble
It was super easy, it just took forever. Well, not super easy, I did go through two DDs at only a hundred health. I was just planning to die on the run, but I saw a chance to get the achievement
I can see him getting annihilated with an actual build
hearty sierra
Yeah, again - easy read after several tries for me, but the damage output is painful
I shudder to imagine charon on FO2
keen raven
thanks @wise oasis
wet frigate
I did my first no dmg hades fight
i didnt use the acorn i promise
But still a 5 hit hades fight isnt bad it’s definitely improvement
hearty sierra
Well done!
It's exceptionally hard to dodge everything
The screen gets chaotic after a while
surreal adder
anyone know if you use mods does it disable cross save?
vapid narwhal
mods have nothing to do with cross save
cross save is a Steam/Switch system level function
as long as your mods dont tamper with save file in any way it should be fine
hearty sierra
Yep, modding the game doesn't mess with cross save
Gave myself several hundred blood with the god codex in my hell mode save and it worked fine
surreal adder
Ok, thanks
I just need some free purchases from the shops but didn't want to buy a copy on steam until I knew it would work
hearty sierra
@ember cypress I'll explain here
whole ridge
I just wish the loyalty card worked for the diamond/Titan Blood in the Styx shop
But if the price raising pact doesn't, only fair the discount doesn't
hearty sierra
As you might've gathered, Shady is a companion - a keepsake of sorts for when you max out ||Sisyphus'|| heart gauge
If you activate it, it deals large damage to a target, and provides resources (gems and darkness)
whole ridge
For whatever reason sisyphus is now more rare than the other two for me
hearty sierra
So in doing that, you can gain more resources each run, allowing you to trade them in for more precious resources
whole ridge
I come across him like, once for every 5 times I come across Eurydice and Patroclus
whole ridge
Although on resource farms, I just wish that I could get any other trove than the health one when I buy the item that forces a treasure trove
hearty sierra
The trick with resource runs is to always check wells, always fish, and never buy anything other than resources from charon
Also forcing poseidon, too
whole ridge
Ye
Because Poseidon both has one that just gives resources and one that boosts resources
hearty sierra
And FISHING
whole ridge
Fishing is always fun foe me
How many different fish are in Chaos's realm by the way? I've only gotten a Projelly there (two times total)
hearty sierra
How many different fish are in Chaos's realm by the way? I've only gotten a Pro...
3
3 every biome, 18 total
whole ridge
Ah, so every biome except Erebus
hearty sierra
There's mati, projelly and I forget rhe legendary
hearty sierra
Ah, so every biome except Erebus
To be fair, the game doesn't exactly let you into erebus often, and if you do it's often really hostile
whole ridge
I have gotten two from all but Chaos and Greece. Gotten only 1 from Greece
hearty sierra
Don't think any fish will be there
I love greece fish
Ambrosia minimum, sturgeon grants blood
whole ridge
I mean, there's the river styx in the boss room for Charon
hearty sierra
Great fish
hearty sierra
Bass, sturgeon and I forget what else
ember cypress
First time Flood Shot Hera Bow, what's the best duo boon?
whole ridge
I got the bass I think
brisk trail
mirage shot
ember cypress
I was thinking of getting either Aphrodite or Ares on my attack (i have nothing on it atm), would Curse of Drowning be better than Flood shot on Hera bow
if not maybe I'll just get Aphrodite for protection
hearty sierra
Uh I have no experience with curse of drowning on hera but I don't think it'd be really good?
brisk trail
idk if curse of drowning even works with the shot
ember cypress
oki
brisk trail
but in any way its not as good as mirage
whole ridge
It sucks trying to get the Greece fish by the way, because there's what, only two rooms they can spawn? As far as I'm aware they can't spawn in Persephone's garden
hearty sierra
They can, actually
whole ridge
Ah, so three rooms they can spawn
hearty sierra
Still
hearty sierra
Later on, the arena is the only place where they spawn
Have you completed the game yet?
whole ridge
Yeah, past 10 runs
hearty sierra
Yep
whole ridge
Yes, but Persephone said to check up on the garden while you're at it to make sure it's tended to :o
hearty sierra
Yeah why would zag visit an empty cottage - the only reason you could, in the past, was for story progression
So yeah
The only place greece fish spawn now is one room
Hades arena
whole ridge
That sucks even more them xD
hearty sierra
Honestly, though, the spawn rate is pretty frequent
I get a greece fish every 2/3 runs
whole ridge
They must boost it after the 10th run, because all the runs I got, I've only had 2 fishing spots, one in a failed run where I died to Hades explicitly due to low DPS, and I had Poseidon's legendary boon that boosts odds of a fishing spot that run, and one in one of the 10 successful runs
tulip cradle
this might seem stupid but is there a way to check what weapons you beat what boss with
tulip cradle
no i havent
whole ridge
Then you are rolling only on memory for now.
hearty sierra
For bounties, there's a way to check; but no way to see how many times you beat a specifc boss
Unless you write it down
whole ridge
After you finish your first run they tell you on the pact of punishment
tulip cradle
man
whole ridge
At least which bounties you have gotten
tulip cradle
dang
whole ridge
No way to get the numbers
hearty sierra
Lmao the pact is just "YA THOUGHT THIS GAME WASN'T HARD ENOUGH? YA THOUGHT WRONG"
Maxed pact is quite impossible
granite ether
You can check your past runs in the admin chamber if you've got that unlocked
whole ridge
And as far as I'm aware, the record room only tells you whether you complete a run or not
And 59 heat is extremely reliant on RNG or RNG manipulation to get anywhere yes
granite ether
And as far as I'm aware, the record room only tells you whether you complete a r...
It tells you what kills you too,
So you can gauge where you died :3
short glen
Max all heat and just play until you get the ultimate perfect RNG of all epic boons of the best variety and don't have to purge the important ones and don't take too much damage and get good rooms and bosses
hearty sierra
But nowhere to explicitly check what they asked for, yeah?
whole ridge
It has been done before though
hearty sierra
Lmao imagine HL20
whole ridge
64 heat?
hearty sierra
Everyone one shots you
whole ridge
Does Hell Mode give 5 heat?
granite ether
It's been done, the run was seeded but it doesn't make it any less impressive
short glen
em54, 6 copies of all bosses at once in each boss room
hearty sierra
Zero mirror upgrades is IMPRESSIVE as hell imo
granite ether
Hell mode has 1 heat exclusive to it in personal liability
hearty sierra
Fresh file run is one I'd hate to do
I get that ME is a valid strat, but... Single dash and 50 health still sucks
whole ridge
Sorry I forgot I don't have EM4 unlocked yet xD
hearty sierra
EM4 is fun as hell
Love when people play it
Dragoon was doing it the other day and I laughed my arse off
whole ridge
I haven't messed with it but I heard final phase EM4 has the biggest banger track in the game
hearty sierra
Oh, yeah, if you want to listen to it ahead of time, it's called The Unseen Ones
void vigil
Lmao imagine HL20
well vicious torment which is old hard labor went up to 500% damage
tulip cradle
i hate thesus so much
granite ether
Didn't what was forced overtime also go to +100%?
hearty sierra
i hate thesus so much
You'll get used to it
tulip cradle
naw he just be blockin everything btuh
hearty sierra
Didn't what was forced overtime also go to +100%?
100% forced overtime is cursed
void vigil
yeah, whipped frenzy was 100%
short glen
Timer with 1 second per region
granite ether
Timer used to not adf the remaining time between regions
So td2 used to be quite cruel
hearty sierra
I prefer it the way it is rn though
void vigil
i think timer got added after the pact rework though
hearty sierra
If you get to hades and you're at 1min left... That feeling must suck
granite ether
Yeah think so
hearty sierra
Like, you did everything right, but just was a tad slow
granite ether
How td works now is great :3
TD3 can still be quite stressful
hearty sierra
TD3 is still a challenge if I'm not tryharding
Heck, TD2 I struggled with when I got back into the game after two months of not playing
granite ether
One of the scariest thing I've seen result from the pact in early access is bruiser elite snakestones
Holy heck they had yes much armour (even more effective hp than some bosses even)
chrome wharf
Timer with 1 second per region
short glen
I saw that, but the timer doesn't actually seem to end the run, so it doesn't really seem to do anything??? At least not the part I watched
granite ether
You take 5 irreducable dps once the timer hits 0 though
rapid forum
when the timer hits zero, your health goes down by the second
short glen
Huh. Didn't notice it going down
Then again, I didn't know it did that, so why would I be checking
dusky wedge
Timer won’t kill you, it will just eventually reduce your hp to 1
whole ridge
I'm tempted to turn on God Mode to speed up grinding Heat relevant things, but at the same time as a Dark Souls vet, it feels like throwing away my honor
hearty sierra
I'm tempted to turn on God Mode to speed up grinding Heat relevant things, but a...
No worries, it's just slightly easier at first
You can just facetank more
whole ridge
I know, starts at 20% damage reduction, and if I recall, raises by 2% every death up to 80%?
hearty sierra
And then when you get to 80% resistance like mine, I just turn it on when I lose all my defiances
Yeah if you want it to not go up, just pause and turn it off on the last second
And yes, TD has made Charon bring me home more than once
dusky wedge
Timer can kill you lol
Huh, I thought it just reduce your hp to 1
whole ridge
Now that sounds dishonorable xD I feel like it is a bit cheap toggling it mid run personally
hearty sierra
The toll of the bell strikes fear into me bones
dusky wedge
And then you died from 1 hit
hearty sierra
Now that sounds dishonorable xD I feel like it is a bit cheap toggling it mid ru...
Lmao I'm dishonorable as hell, then
chrome wharf
Nah Hypnos has a special line if you die by timer
whole ridge
But yeah, I'll probably turn it on for my Heat runs specifically to get Skelly's useless trinkets
hearty sierra
My comfort build is God Mode + Stubborn Roots
whole ridge
I'll probably kill myself by timer like planned a little whole ago to get his line xD
hearty sierra
Unless you face tank EVERY shot from hades, nothing will kill you
chrome wharf
Add in Vengeful mood to win without doing anything
hearty sierra
Regen happens faster than DPS
whole ridge
I've exhausted a ton of Hypnos's dialogue to where he now just says "you're on the list!"
chrome wharf
try superhigh heat
granite ether
Huh, I thought it just reduce your hp to 1
Yeah, timer at 0 means you take 5 irreducable damage every second
whole ridge
How does one get stubborn roots?
hearty sierra
I mean, you get a specific line for getting killed by every possible enemy, I think
chrome wharf
Finally got the line for the dudes with clubs from playing 64 heat
whole ridge
Assuming it's the regen one
hearty sierra
How does one get stubborn roots?
Demeter and athena
chrome wharf
Athena/Demeter duo
hearty sierra
Its not a good duo but it's a nice fallback
whole ridge
I'm very bad at getting duos, does it require specific boons from said gods or just having boons from said gods?
hearty sierra
I'm very bad at getting duos, does it require specific boons from said gods or j...
Check the codex entry!
whole ridge
Ah gotcha xD
hearty sierra
There's prerequisites to get each duo boon
whole ridge
I forget that boons are in there a lot
hearty sierra
Legendary boons too
chrome wharf
I had stubborn roots for my first ever clear and ended up not needing it
hearty sierra
I generally just get stubborn roots because I'm doing a crystal build and happened to have Divine dash
whole ridge
Legs have prereqs?
hearty sierra
It just happens
hearty sierra
Legs have prereqs?
They do, yeah
whole ridge
I assume excepting Chaos's?
hearty sierra
Chaos also has prerequisites, actually
whole ridge
Ahh
whole ridge
So I just met it for his and didn't know it when I got Pauper's Defiance xD
hearty sierra
The prereq I remember the most is hermes' and artemis'
Thankfully the prereqs for artemis's legendary actually are good boons
Support fire is good and pressure points works well
Exit wounds is just alright if you're not playing a cast-oriented build (or if you're playing with Blades/Lazer/Dio cast)
granite ether
I assume excepting Chaos's?
The chaos legendary prereq is having another chaos boon
whole ridge
Ah
So literally only able to get it on second chaos gate onwards xD
I imagine Hermes is similar given he's limited in availability?
granite ether
Yes and no
Having the hermes keepsake equipped is one of the prereqs for the legendaries
whole ridge
Oh wow xD
Poseidon is likely the first most see I assume given he forces the fishing leg on you as a starting boon after catching X amount of fish
hearty sierra
Also plume allows access to the best hermes boon in the game - RD when you first get your Hermes Boon
It's a good idea to have plume on
Well... Poseidon is special
The dude has two legendary boons
whole ridge
I assumed, one is the fishing one and the second probably does something actually useful for runs
Also himbo poseidon is best poseidon
raw herald
Second wave is pretty bad, it only does more damage if you have sea storm
And knocking enemies back twice often is a hindrance
whole ridge
Ah xD
hearty sierra
Chad "Poseidon is the himbo" stance versus Thad "Zagreus is the himbo"
kind swan
what's the stance on "dio is the himbo"?
hearty sierra
Dio is the frat boy and that's final
The prereq for a himbo is dumb, kind and handsome
Everyone in this game fits the "handsome" criteria
But Dio ain't dumb
Zagreus has "walking into a rake" and "greeting a venomous snake" as causes of death
If that doesn't qualify as dumb, I've no idea what does
short glen
You can't hold the snake thing against him
He's never run into a venomous snake before afaik
hearty sierra
Honourable mention to "Walking into a wall painted like the exit", then
kind swan
They add humorous causes of deaths down the line?
hearty sierra
They add humorous causes of deaths down the line?
After Persephone returns to the underworld, you just die after you defeat hades
With varying causes of death
So in short, yes
short glen
Pretty sure that the old man is making them up ngl
kind swan
I'll keep that in mind, as I think I'm close to getting her back, then.
short glen
He sounds extremely like he's being forced to improv a situation some times
hearty sierra
The gods have no canon recollection of the narrator so I'd assume he's just narrating as he dees fit
Only zag responds to the narrator
Maybe Zag is narrator?
:0
kind swan
He sounds extremely like he's being forced to improv a situation some times
please tell me one of the deaths is "thinking I can't think of anything else" in that case.
short glen
No idea
hearty sierra
please tell me one of the deaths is "thinking I can't think of anything else" in...
IT IS
kind swan
WAIT, REALLY!?
hearty sierra
He runs out of ideas in the end
kind swan
I was joking!
hearty sierra
It's hilarious
At the end there's like old age, and there's one where he just goes "Lord Hades claims that there is no escape. There is considerable credence to his claim."
And that's just that
kind swan
old age, yet I assume he still looks young b/c god.
raw herald
Yes
hearty sierra
What’s this anvil thing at the end stage do?
Removes one of your hammer boons and replaces it with two more random hammer boons
modern garnet
correct, but you dont get to pick
hearty sierra
Removes randomly, btw
junior terrace
Do I choose which gets removed
raw herald
No
junior terrace
Nvm
hearty sierra
It's bad if you've got good boons but good if you have bad boons
modern garnet
anvil is really funny because it's part of a very short list of things that can instantly destroy your run
raw herald
And it's bad on sword full stop
junior terrace
I couldn’t get heart rend to save my life
kind swan
iirc, you can save scum of you haven't gotten the sack yet (just reset if it gives you bad)
hearty sierra
Yeah then don't
modern garnet
it COULD work for the better
raw herald
You could get dash nova cursed slash or something
hearty sierra
Dash nova ain't bad on Poseidon
raw herald
But you could also get triple shot point blank flurry shot, which would be OP
hearty sierra
But cursed slash is... Cursed
modern garnet
also if you already have dash nova cursed slash, it literally can't give you dash nova cursed slash, right?
plucky latch
Yeah Dash Nova is the only bad one just because of its bug
raw herald
Correct
raw herald
Those are both decent
modern garnet
oh yeah ranged one can clear pots
hearty sierra
Yeah just leave it and use your gold elsewhere
raw herald
The only ones that are better are double edge and breaching slash
And all the others are much worse
kind swan
good luck
modern garnet
If only you had taken that anvil... damn
hearty sierra
Lmao there's a lot more than just "if only I got better hammers"
plucky latch
Nah that's all there is to it
soft echo
Hammers are all that matter
whole ridge
Is the anvil able to be worthwhile?
raw herald
There's a lot more than hammers
modern garnet
Bad hammer = just go jump in spikes in tartarus
plucky latch
Yeah. Nothing more than hammers
raw herald
I play modded now, can't relate
hearty sierra
Lmao y'all trolling
modern garnet
Anvil can save your run but for it to do that, you'd have to be having a pretty bad run
plucky latch
Yeah, Anvil is only worthwhile if you don't like your current build
hearty sierra
There's only 1/2 hammers that meaningfully affect each weapon
3 for the spear IMO but that's just me
modern garnet
Sometimes you want it to replace your bad hammer but instead it replaces your good hammer
junior terrace
Mmm well
raw herald
Different depending on the weapon, bow has 4-5 but sword has 1
junior terrace
I couldn’t get heart rend
plucky latch
Yeah. Life isn't fun without risks
hearty sierra
Heart rend is awesome! Maxing out the mirror will help with getting duos/legendaries
junior terrace
I had so many Artemis and aphro but man
Not a single one same with my previous runs
Well back to it ig, I hate the sword
raw herald
Are you using gods legacy/dark foresight/god keepsakes?
And buying yarn/taking nectar from Eurydice to increase rarity chance?
junior terrace
Yea I did all that except I don’t have gods legacy
raw herald
That's the main one then
junior terrace
Yea trying to unlock it atm
dusky wedge
What’s the maximum encounter times we can have in an entire run? As in, how high can a fully upgraded Than keepsake can go?
dusky wedge
So, 34 encounters. That’s not including Hades itself, right?
dusky wedge
So, it’s 33?
raw herald
I'm going to calculate it
Yep, 34 chambers that you are able to lose health from enemies, which includes all boss/miniboss chambers
hearty sierra
Divide that by 2, multiply by 1.2... about 40% max dodge chance from this?
Hm
Heroic hermes boon grants 40% dodge chance, zag fists grant 15
95% dodge chance ftw
Just facetank everything
raw herald
You can get 100% dodge chance on every aspect, just not full uptime
dusky wedge
Isn’t dodge chance multiplicative though? Or so I’ve heard
raw herald
It's additive
hearty sierra
Yeah but this is full uptime!
You don't even have to do everything
Just get vengeful mood and stand there
raw herald
True, but without the plume as well
hearty sierra
Be ghostly
Fair enough, you do need plume, means that you can't reliably get your build
dusky wedge
At 100%, that just mean full dodge? Can’t be hit at all?
whole ridge
With the Himbo stuff I'd argue Zag is a little too quick to piece things together to be a himbo
modern garnet
you just have to yell every 10 seconds and youre invincible
hearty sierra
you just have to yell every 10 seconds and youre invincible
Not very challenging with both smouldering air and hermes' boon
modern garnet
you gotta get the hermes boons to heroic
hearty sierra
With the Himbo stuff I'd argue Zag is a little too quick to piece things togethe...
Emotionally smart doesn't mean not dumb!
modern garnet
is he emotionally smart?
brisk trail
zag doesn't give me himbo vibes no
hearty sierra
At the very least, he has enough awareness to apologize to Orphy when he realizes he was overly nosy
modern garnet
I dunno how to interpret the thing where he always just tells other people's secrets to the person the secret is about
he does that over and over again
hearty sierra
Zag is objectively the himbo in this game
modern garnet
and it always works out for him I guess
hearty sierra
No one fits better
modern garnet
not every game has a himbo
hearty sierra
I dunno how to interpret the thing where he always just tells other people's sec...
Where does he do that?
soft echo
zag doesn't give me himbo vibes no
The heck is a himbo?
fathom moth
i brought skelly to tartarus viewpoint and he says stuff lol
modern garnet
the orpheus story, the achilles story
short glen
Sisyphus is a himbo
hearty sierra
The heck is a himbo?
The quintessential himbo is Kronk from the Emperor's New Groove
A dumb, kind, handsome man
modern garnet
originally it was a male bimbo but people have made it a lot more complicated than that for no reason
and now there's something called a herbo
hearty sierra
the orpheus story, the achilles story
I agree on orphy but pat was asking about achilles and he just answers pat
hearty sierra
and now there's something called a herbo
Lmaowot
Somehow they realized bimbo was derogatory
whole ridge
How does Poseidon not fit Himbo better than Zag? Even Hades says he's probably the most unaware of everything
short glen
and now there's something called a herbo
If it's a female himbo, it makes sense, since himbo is no longer just male bimbo, thus a new female companion was needed
soft echo
and now there's something called a herbo
That's just a hera bow
Ecks dee
short glen
Words have only as much, and what, meaning we assign them
brisk trail
True
whole ridge
Bimbo had always been derogatory due to being associated with being sexual with multiple partners, so making herbo as an alternative to himbo is fair in my book
brisk trail
How does Poseidon not fit Himbo better than Zag? Even Hades says he's probably ...
I feel like Dionysius is very much a himbo
hearty sierra
Fair enough
whole ridge
Chaos is eldritch entity tho
hearty sierra
Semantics ain't my strong suit
whole ridge
I feel like Dionysius is very much a himbo
Too smart. He's a party animal and drunk all the time, but he is smart
hearty sierra
Chaos is your five year old nephew personified into an undying god older than the universe
whole ridge
I like how Chaos doesn't like being given direct answers just due to how imagining the many possibilities is more enjoyable for him
Or them rather
brisk trail
Chaos is super cool ye
whole ridge
Hades's boss music goes hard AF and I love it though
brisk trail
I think zag might be bi but that's just my speculation
whole ridge
Character not game
whole ridge
I think zag might be bi but that's just my speculation
No speculation, fact. You can romance than and meg
hearty sierra
Good thing we're in discussions
brisk trail
No speculation, fact. You can romance than and meg
Oh yay that's pog
hearty sierra
Yes, both meg and than are romance options
whole ridge
Spoilers allowed xD
plucky latch
I think zag might be bi but that's just my speculation
Nah, that's not my experience. But he might be asexual
hearty sierra
Dusa too :')
whole ridge
Technically Dusa too, but you get friend zoned hard xD
brisk trail
One time I have hypnos too many nectars and he said he died just to see him it was so cute
whole ridge
And then Nyx starts being mean to Dusa
hearty sierra
Yeah hypnos is adorable
granite ether
platonic relationships be just as valid as every other
brisk trail
I haven't finished the game but I don't mind spoilers
hearty sierra
platonic relationships be just as valid as every other
PREACH
soft echo
Nah, that's not my experience. But he might be asexual
But you canonically... have a fun time... with meg
whole ridge
Why is Nyx mean to Dusa?
brisk trail
And then Nyx starts being mean to Dusa
Wtf why that sucks
hearty sierra
I've accepted every relationship in both my saves, though
granite ether
sorry, but saying Dusa 'friendzoned' Zag really irratates me for multiple reasons
whole ridge
"You are invisible to Zagreus, do not speak unless spoken to"
soft echo
Why is Nyx mean to Dusa?
Because Dusa is a low class gorgon among heroes, gods and primordial beings
brisk trail
"You are invisible to Zagreus, do not speak unless spoken to"
Ong?
hearty sierra
Because Dusa is a low class gorgon among heroes, gods and primordial beings
Lmao
Dusa is shorthand for medusa
whole ridge
I mean, she maybe, but she is like, the most polite person in the house.
hearty sierra
One of the most feared and known monsters in greek history
hearty sierra
It's wordplay on maid dusa
plucky latch
Most polite person is Achilles
soft echo
^
plucky latch
Dusa is just vermin tbh
whole ridge
Dusa is a super close second tho
In death she wanted to escape what she was in life :v
hearty sierra
You mean BOI isn't an appropriate way to address your rebellious son??
whole ridge
I mean, it worked for Kratos
brisk trail
You mean BOI isn't an appropriate way to address your rebellious son??
Lmao
whole ridge
He gets scolded for calling Zag boi tho
indigo oxide
hearty sierra
#theblockbuttonexists
soft echo
I wont tolerate Dusa slander.
You're going to learn to 
boreal pier
Dusa is bae
Dusa hurts head
hearty sierra
Remove the dusa haters with one easy trick!
indigo oxide
indigo oxide
I cant argue with that
whole ridge
Only ones I tend to not like is Nyx now and Thesius
Thesius because he's characterized right
hearty sierra
Nyx?? Nyx is best mom
whole ridge
And Nyx because she seems to be a tad inconsistent from my view
plucky latch
Nyx is boring. Persephone is best mom
hearty sierra
And theseus is just doing his job, man
whole ridge
She lost my favor with her treatment of Dusa
soft echo
I wish there was a Minotaur bond :/
whole ridge
Thesius is doing it for the glory
hearty sierra
How would he get approval ratings with his crowd otherwise
granite ether
she definitely treats Hypnos poorly too
whole ridge
Yeah
hearty sierra
gasp
soft echo
Ok but Hypnos is Hypnos
hearty sierra
Nyx slander
indigo oxide
Tisiphone tho
hearty sierra
From a mod
granite ether
so do many people in the house 😭
hearty sierra
Well I never
whole ridge
I remember when Persephone came back he was like "Wow! Your mom actually talks with you?"
plucky latch
Dusa was treated fairly. Hypnos is a punk, so he deserved it too probably
whole ridge
Because he never got any attention from Nyx
soft echo
I still simp for Nyx even if she's the canonical step-mom because I'm not Zag 
plucky latch
Maybe Zag really is Nyx's son...considering all her children turned into punks
whole ridge
Like, I feel bad for the guy, he just likes to be social and mama Darkness does everything short of disowning him
indigo oxide
Okay but can we talk about how well written tisiphone’s character is
hearty sierra
Says zagreus at the end
whole ridge
Murder!
hearty sierra
10/10 character development
She learns to say zagreus btw
You have to turn off EM for it
whole ridge
Sweet!
She's still not at that point yet
I really like Alecto though. She's a total bish, but she is fun
whole ridge
Eventually
hearty sierra
Yeah she learns to say zagreus over time
Doesn't happen if you always have EM on, though
soft echo
Am I the only Asterius fan..?
hearty sierra
Have to be alone for the character development
brisk trail
Am I the only Asterius fan..?
hypnos is with you
hearty sierra
Am I the only Asterius fan..?
SHORT ONE IS SLANDER AGAINST ZAGREUS
plucky latch
I think Asterius is cool, but I'm not a fan
whole ridge
Am I the only Asterius fan..?
Asterius is great, just wasn't a subject of current convo was all
hearty sierra
Theseus is equally short without chariot!
whole ridge
I just feel bad for him being stuck with the king as a friend
soft echo
His stupid Macedonian
plucky latch
Theseus is a king? I must have missed that
hearty sierra
Lmao
soft echo
King of Athens
hearty sierra
Theseus is one of the more famous kings of greece
plucky latch
No wonder he sucks
whole ridge
Yeah, King of Athens, the worst part of Greece that also was super powerful
Like, he is literally Athens personified xD
plucky latch
I either forgot or just tuned out his dialogue when he talked
He just sounds like a guy who has nothing important to say
modern garnet
headcanon that hades put all the awful proud self centered clowns in elysium so they'd be as far away as possible from him
plucky latch
Patroclus the clown
soft echo
Patroclus the sadboi
modern garnet
well patroclus is only there because of a deal achilles did, right?
soft echo
Is he?
whole ridge
Ye
whole ridge
Yep, because part of the contract was to not speak about the contract
soft echo
Off-topic: I think if they added another god ever, I think Apollo might be cool
whole ridge
Ye
soft echo
Where you get a curse that makes them blinded for a sec and run in a circle lol
rocky aurora
genuinly think ||thesius ||is harder then ||hades||
soft echo
You don't have to spoiler but I agree
rocky aurora
i just dont understand if im doing something wrong or not can play one handed asleep 1000 times to thesius kill the bull fight thesisus die instantly
whole ridge
Legit, I love how when Zag asks why Hades never elaborated on what happened with Persephone and he meeting, he just reacts in actual confusion like "I thought your mother told you what happened"