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#h1-discussion
tender oyster
how do you guys get more of that blood to unlock different aspects?
signal aspen
you will get more after you beat the final boss
high island
Furies and Hades drop Titan Blood.
tender oyster
but once you beat the furies w/ each weapon once they dont drop more blood
signal aspen
you can get more after you beat the final boss
high island
Right. Need to win a run once before you can get more from the Furies.
You can also get Titan Blood from the Wretched Broker for 1 Ambrosia and sometimes for 15 Chthonic Keys, and the shop in Styx sometimes offers Titan Blood.
thorn marsh
15 keys aint that much
tender oyster
okay im turning the game back on lol
high island
Chthonic Keys are useless very fast.
tender oyster
I just opened all the mirror upgrades im pretty sure thats the last thing i needed those keys for
dusky wedge
If you really need a lot of blood and you can’t beat final boss yet, do the prophecies, some of it gives lots of blood
keen lichen
holy mother, so proud of myself.
beowulf.
no hits ||extreme measures|| ||theseus&bull|| confirmed by ||butterfly|| keepsake
thorn marsh
now u gotta one shot em into phase 2
keen lichen
there was luck involved. at least twice i was sure i was hit by his maniacal passby.
the butterfly doesn't lie though.
keen lichen
now u gotta one shot em into phase 2
well, with the right boons and enough luck i expect that to be possible.
thorn marsh
honestly u dont need much from beowulf to phase heroes
beowulf can phase dad but it obviously need a bit more to phase dad
keen lichen
i almost phased dad with each shot just now.
don't seems like it requires too much luck (epic boons and poms)
dad is down already
thorn marsh
well all u need is mirage shot plus some stones and braids and then boom ur phasing dad
keen lichen
extreme measures is a labor of love by the devs by the way
as well as the other options from ||the pact of punishment||
they give the game the necessary longevity.
i mean if they weren't there (and the statue, even if only cosmetic), there probably wouldn't be much more reasons to keep playing
and i thought this run was lost
bad luck more or less. all white boons.
the few epics were useless.
no additional dashes at all.
i guess i got a little too dependent on extra dashes
still the hitless elysium was the best part of this run
thorn marsh
beowulf doesnt need extra dashes at all
keen lichen
must've had the shield up without noticing (fractions of seconds while "attacking" with the dragon charge)
i still haven't gotten used to being able to block
i never rely on blocking
thorn marsh
if u really wanna stonk u always go for RD
keen lichen
RD?
signal aspen
Rush delivery
thorn marsh
its just two boons from hermes
thorn marsh
hyper sprint + rush delivery
thorn marsh
u mean tight deadline?
keen lichen
i had those two with some weapon i don't remember, probably sword or fists, and i had a ME build
dude. ME powered up by rush delivery and the hyper sprint
holy mother of all that is holy
i also had +3 dashes i think
something interesting. i usually get hit a lot more often with a ME build, because i'm using the dashes to "attack" and often have none left to dodge lol
i usually get hit way less often when i'm not dashing to attack
like bow
glossy remnant
Okay... one thing was lazily done. Resources director? Really?
keen lichen
Why are you not dash attacking with bow
i am, but i don't use all my dashes. there's always one or more dashes available (since i take long enough to charge up the shots so the dashes "recharge")
signal aspen
Oh ok
keen lichen
with sword/fists i'm always dashing until i have none left
signal aspen
Yeah that's the problem with those weapons
keen lichen
with bow fights are much more "surgical"
with fists/swords it's like i just dash in and keep dashing hoping knockbacks or whatever will prevent me from getting hit.
in bow fights the fights are different. cooler in a "surgical precision" way.
fists are a different kind of fun. a wrecking ball kind.
rama, on the other hand, feels like cheating lol
the extra blue hearts are basically free ||heat|| with rama except for the damned little rats in styx
they never do real damage, but they're annoying as hell
hera might be faster, but it didn't captivate me yet. rama was love at first sight.
should've been named aspect of aphrodite
high island
except for the damned little rats in styx
They have 1 HP, Rama's Special does 3 hits, so one Special still kills them just like before.
keen lichen
ah but it's way more "work" to aim at the closest little rat while at the same time estimating which other ones the ricochet will hit.
not saying it's actually hard, but they get more annoying when they need 3 hits to go down as opposed to just one dash through and they go poof
any builds/weapons that use poseidon in core skills?
high island
Chiron.
thorn marsh
sword splash dash is now becoming a thing
high island
Tidal Dash > Tempest Flourish > Sea Storm. Electric Shot or Zeus' Aid to unlock Sea Storm.
glossy remnant
Damn
watching some runs
and a dev accidentaly said "voice of zagrius and hades"
my jaw dropped for a sec xD
thorn marsh
zagreus and skelly have the same voice actor
high island
Maybe Darren does the singing voice of Hades in a song you haven't unlocked yet.
shadow kernel
What sword aspect is best
thorn marsh
nemesis is really good
high island
Not Zag Sword.
shadow kernel
So nemesis is best?
shadow kernel
I guess I’ll invest in nemesis
I want something fast but I’m not used to cast builds
I’m guessing aphro special + Artemis attack + heart rend is the best build?
thorn marsh
I’m guessing aphro special + Artemis attack + heart rend is the best build?
speed wise?
shadow kernel
Yeah
thorn marsh
speed wise ME is faster
speed wise heart rend need alot like smoldering heart rend and good chaos
brisk trail
you take aphro or artemis atk on arthur and gilgamesh is either dash build, merciful end or aphro atk spam and hope you dont die
kind pagoda
gotchu
lunar orchid
the sword that makes the casts drop is a beast
get exit wounds leveld up and extra casts
each casts can do like 400 in damage especially with artemis cast with increased crit%
im playing a run with that set too
its wild and I have the +2 extra casts so 5x180 5x160
each salvo does like 1600 in damage and thats not including the critical hit chances with artemis
hollow hawk
Yeah poseidon is quite fun especially with exit wounds
lunar orchid
it can be hard tho cause it makes you get real close
shadow kernel
Ok I have come to the conclusion that I suck with the sword and I’m never touching it again
stoic flame
sad
south lagoon
living and learning 😔 ✌️
glossy remnant
Man
the last 5 days I had the worst cold of my life
Without hades I would have been miserable :D
Thank you Hades <3
tender oyster
I took a chaos buff at the wrong time and wound up aagainst one of the furies right after it
south lagoon
i had to go thru meg just using the zag bow special once lol it was awful
tender oyster
how would you even get to the next levels? just dashing them over traps?
south lagoon
you usually have one or two out of attack/special/cast free if you're using the "can't xyz" chaos boons so you do have more options than JUST dashing
high island
I did that with a "you can't attack buff"
You can still attack, though. The curse won't kill you, you'll just drop to 1 HP.
kind pagoda
all the gods have nectar up to the lock and I have a bond with zeus
how do I progress the story?
also do I just have to keep talking to Sisyphus to progress his questline?
kind pagoda
how do I progress the story?
I mean how can I unlock their bonds
I've completed Hermes' fate and Poseidon's fate
high island
Just keep talking to everyone and doing runs, pretty much.
kind pagoda
aight
is it viable to just spam the god with their keepsake and keep dying in first room?
also I have problem progressing achilles' questline
royal thistle
It's not fun but..
high island
I guess for some of them, that would work. I never bothered doing anything like that, though. You'll unlock things quite naturally if you just keep doing more runs.
royal thistle
^
kind pagoda
like I keep talking to him and Patroclus but none seem to speak about the quest anymore
it's been like 6 times encountering Patroclus
high island
Well, they have other things to tell you, too. I wouldn't worry about it.
kind pagoda
uhm can you max bouldy btw
high island
No.
high island
Bouldy will give you a boon if you give him Nectar.
kind pagoda
oh
thorn marsh
obviously u should because bouldy is just the most amazing thing to ever exist
kind pagoda
crystal wind
frozen granite
||Did my protagonist just got frienzoned by a gorgon?||
royal thistle
Perhaps
modern garnet
well, that's a bit reductive
shadow kernel
Is it just me or does the sword have problems with autoaim
modern garnet
Like what
shadow kernel
It keeps just straight up missing enemies
royal thistle
Wt u mean by that
prisma rivet
Hi there, today I've been wanting to play some more Hades to progress the story, but I'm getting a little too.. bored (I guess?) with the combat. I keep going for the optimal builds, Heart Rend, Mirage Shot, Merciful End... Do you guys have fun, unorthodox build/playstyles you'd like to share? I'm thinking of going without mirror upgrades or boonless, but I'm not sure difficulty = fun in this case
crisp fractal
random builds with whatever weapon has dark thirst so its fully randomised
crisp fractal
random builds with whatever weapon has dark thirst so its fully randomised
it makes it so you dont have to keep going for the same busted duos and legendaries you like to use and you have to get to the end with whatever the game gives you
prisma rivet
Yeah, I can try that
prisma rivet
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/659820450297282585/852263609798361158/S...
Also, holy cow!!! 8 casts???
brisk trail
what keeps the game fresh for me personally is heat
and you totally can just go for unoptimal builds and explore
I really like demeter shield for some reason
thorn marsh
👀
prisma rivet
Pretty fun, can confirm
prisma rivet
or like demeter rail
Especially if you pair with Dio slow boon and/or targeting system
brisk trail
I also just like going for the casts that usually never end up being used like drowning or blizzard shot
blade dash build w drowning 🥺
prisma rivet
blade dash build w drowning 🥺
Ooooh, sounds interesting
prisma rivet
u can try CoD on beowulf
I don't have Beowulf yet 😫
brisk trail
its wierd but it does do dmg I guess
brisk trail
if only CoD didnt feel so bad
prisma rivet
Wow
I mean ME anything is peak LOL
Hmmmmm... I've got an interesting sorta "thematic" build, if you will
thorn marsh
👀
prisma rivet
Dem Aspect fists with Demeter/Ares duos
mint coral
doing zeus dash build with gilga, surprisingly fun
river vigil
I usually combo it wirh hunting blades, sure its still bad but chonky damage and its kinda fun, i did it for the prohpechy just once lmao
Esp if you get artemis legendary
prisma rivet
doing zeus dash build with gilga, surprisingly fun
Ooooooh, yeah. Low heat Gilga is fun not gonna lie
river vigil
More casts
wicked smelt
After 155 hours has finally find the Charon sack, but i was defeated
@stable glen yes he hit hard :/
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704403235422863520/864633349402394654/unknown.png?width=1214&height=683
river vigil
Ooooooh, yeah. Low heat Gilga is fun not gonna lie
High heat gilga is annoying ive tried a run with it, it can still be optimal ofc but the maim dmg aint even worth it the proc is super late man
prisma rivet
Yeah, and you give enemies a buff against you :\
thorn marsh
I usually combo it wirh hunting blades, sure its still bad but chonky damage and...
but u cant get freezing vortex and hunting blades Sadge
prisma rivet
That's gotta be scary with max hard labour
river vigil
but u cant get freezing vortex and hunting blades Sadge
What a truly sad world we live in
prisma rivet
Yep.. just read the wiki on that 😔
river vigil
Hmm i wanted to try smtjn real dumb, ares on beo
I don't use shields so idk if that's even gonna work haha
thorn marsh
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844342694562103308/860146426469679124/Had...
_ _
its not good LOL
prisma rivet
I don't use shields so idk if that's even gonna work haha
Ares special on Zeus Aspect is pretty good, but I'm not sure about Ares on Beo
river vigil
Lmao sadge
prisma rivet
Well, I meant his cast 😆
thorn marsh
so
disappointing feature
u cant get hunting blades on beowulf
flare isnt a prereq
stable glen
After 155 hours has finally find the Charon sack, but i was defeated
<@!5254600...
Don't take it in tartarus, unless you got an OP early start or are just a gamer god, espeically not with stubborn defiance
stable glen
Ares special on Zeus Aspect is pretty good, but I'm not sure about Ares on Beo
It is. I'll link my ME zeus sheild build
if I can find it...
can anyone explain how the hera cast thing works?
when I test it on skelly, it seems similar to beowulf, but clearly it isn't since it uses the normal boons
high island
That's pretty much it.
river vigil
Hera is basically just a worse beowulf
stable glen
That's pretty much it.
I don't get it
what's the difference?
between hera cast and beowful
high island
You just said it.
high island
Yup.
stable glen
so... why does it use different boons, do they have the same effect?
high island
Well, Trippy Shot becomes Trippy Flare, though.
The Casts just do what they normally do.
stable glen
Any good build ideas?
high island
Any good build ideas?
river vigil
Just get mirage shot
high island
A lot of interest in Hera, lately.
high island
Black Out? That would mean you need to get Hangover from somewhere, and it doesn't add any damage to your first Cast. 
high island
Nah it's okay. Spelling things out and discussing ideas is one of the best ways to learn to make better builds.
honest elk
I cleared my first run
signal aspen
Nice
lament gale
With my tired mind I just imagined how crazy it would be to have a comic book adaptation of the game with the same graphic charter and art style (the sets and the color range, everything will work so well) just to imagine the quality of the boards ..xD
sorry for this sudden interruption, good night x)
sly salmon
can I just say that being able to dash -5- times and having zeus's dash powerup is really fun
I'm just running around dash attacking and the passive is doing so much damage
granite plinth
i can't believe i thought
heightened security was a free heat to take
i was so naive
manic bobcat
TurboTax
granite ether
It definitely be free* heat
*iff you don't get hit by any traps (including the pots in the hades fight)
manic bobcat
Last time I took HS, it was so free Charon showed up and gave me two Valued Customer cards.
rapid forum
It is if you got sure footing
Last time I took HS was for diogenes run
It was... pain
manic bobcat
That boon surely gives you a foot in the door to beat the game with HS.
hollow kettle
Diogenes?
hollow hawk
its a challenge
Where, iirc, you have to do a boonless and mirrorless run with a zag aspect
Theres some more stuff to it as well that im forgetting, but that's the gist of it
polar root
languid wolf
entered asphodel with 100 life and two death defiances let's go
uncut dagger
Meg no stinky :(
languid wolf
your profile has such blursed chaotic energy
spare turret
Just completed the codex earlier. Finally got that last voidskate.
craggy barn
It definitely be free* heat
*iff you don't get hit by any traps (including the p...
heightened security is free heat if you just don't get hit by traps 
tranquil gull
||Oh my Lords I was so close to beating Hades first time I met him||
river vigil
god i cant ever get used to arthur
river vigil
wait how do you even actually play atrhur dash strikes?
thorn marsh
arthur has a dash strike
but u can also dash while charging up the big big swin animation and itll come out at the end of ur dashes
stoic flame
yes
river vigil
i see
chrome yoke
How do i get ||Cthonic Companions||?
stoic flame
give ambrosia to certain people
stable glen
How do i get ||Cthonic Companions||?
||Keep giving nectar to certain people until you can eventually give them ambrosia||
thorn marsh
How do i get ||Cthonic Companions||?
||megaera thanatos sisyphus achilles dusa and skelly are the certain individuals u need to keep gifting nectar to in order to get a cthonic companion||
stable glen
^^^ those are the people
thorn marsh
fixed it
little dragon
is that good???
like it sounds like you have to hit an enemy with it, then wait for it to pop out, then stay far away from it so it can damage enemies as it just sits on the ground before returning
or i guess you could miss on purpose and just hit a wall
isnt that pretty slow for most enemies though? who would just move away from it
i can see it mostly just being for the hydra
or against hades you could hit those little obstacles in the arena, and its small enough to get decent coverage
missing on purpose but still having it close enough to do damage takes precision i dont think i could manage on switch joycons
i guess its just that the damage is high enough to make up for those issues
thorn marsh
r o d is nice yeah
granite plinth
is rod actually good
stoic flame
its fine
granite plinth
i've never taken it
frozen granite
would love a farming and fishing game of hades :v
stoic flame
i dont actively search for it
granite plinth
seems too hard to use
frozen granite
the upper garden should be a mini game tho :v
frozen granite
i want to grow broccoli
craggy barn
is rod actually good
speedrun meta ((kind of)) not really
stable glen
what's lightning rod
craggy barn
i'd send the message link here but i don't think you guys are in the speedrunning server
stable glen
Lemme check
stable glen
You can't get it
stoic flame
sad
stable glen
Disappointed duo tbh
I wish it was like "every time you crit enemies get zapped by a bolt"
stoic flame
that would be op
bright jasper
? you will either have infernal or stygian. It's the mirror choice. Infernal is the "default".
bright jasper
Ah. Then it isn't available, yes. Sorry.
stable glen
That's what I have rn
stoic flame
nice
void vigil
I wish it was like "every time you crit enemies get zapped by a bolt"
this is what their previous duo, freak accident, was. it did 20 lightning damage per crit
hardy gale
Does the final boss count as an "encounter"? I'm looking at the Blood Frenzy boon from Ares, when using death defiance deal more damage that encounter
void vigil
yes
rapid forum
this is what their previous duo, freak accident, was. it did 20 lightning damage...
I mean lighting rod is fun when you wanna do a meme run
river vigil
ooh i now i wanna do a lightning rod run
river vigil
how did it go lol
rapid forum
but zeus legendary pulled it through
stable glen
Honestly
I tried heart rend chiron multiple times
and the damage just isn't that strong
I had a rare deadly flourish level 6
and epic heartbreak strike level 3
and died on theseus and asterius cuz the damage wasn't that strong
even with my tidal dash
idk, maybe I'm just bad
No sweet surrender or clean kill that run, but idk
I've seen some really strong runs with it but the bosses don't seem to melt for me like they did in those runs
high island
You didn't die because of the build. But anyway, crits scale with bonus damage, so you want to get Flourish boons from Master Chaos and ideally Relentless + Concentrated Volley to make the most of it.
Chimaera Jerkies are good, too.
stable glen
You didn't die because of the build. But anyway, crits scale with bonus damage, ...
I had the + 4 arrows and the piercing volley one
relentless is +4, right
stable glen
I think it really wasn't doing much damage for me tho, I got lost all DDs on the heroes
maybe unlucky crits, I'll give it another shot
so far though, I've had better luck with dionysus, although getting a good dionysus build is harder cuz two duos
high island
Well yeah but getting hit wasn't because of your build is my point.
stable glen
btw, what's the best attack to put on Achilles spear
high island
You only need Low Tolerance for a decent Drunken Flourish build.
rapid forum
Zeus or artemis
stable glen
You only need Low Tolerance for a decent Drunken Flourish build.
well, I guess, but curse of nausea makes the whole thing so much better
high island
btw, what's the best attack to put on Achilles spear
Deadly Strike + Hunter's Mark or Lightning Strike + Static Discharge.
rapid forum
zeus is popular choice
stable glen
I think I'll give lightning strike a chance then
do people ever do ME achillies builds
rapid forum
get flurry jab if you can
high island
People do ME on everything.
hollow hawk
MEchilles is cursed
rapid forum
it's a versatile build
hollow hawk
Do not run it
high island
Most consistent strat is Tidal Dash start and picking up whichever you see first between Deadly Strike and Lightning Strike.
hollow hawk
or else you'll never be blessed by the RNGods ever again
rapid forum
or else you'll never be blessed by the RNGods ever again
speaking from experience?
stable glen
Lol
stable glen
I had a really good heart rend nemesis build, but idk, was barely doing any damage on the heroes
ME fists is fun
But I still prefer zeus fists
zeus stuff and support fire
rapid forum
I did my 32 heat fist with ME
hollow hawk
speaking from experience?
No, from observation
rapid forum
lol
hollow hawk
Fists with ME is nice
rapid forum
though picking zag fist for 32 heat was a bit... rough 
stable glen
I did my 32 heat fist with ME
eris + zeus + support fire = gg ez
rapid forum
especially cause... I can't use fist properly
rapid forum
eris + zeus + support fire = gg ez
I've done that
I've done all weapon in 32 heat
it's enough
I don't wanna climb further
I flexed on my friends so it's enough
stable glen
I didn't enjoy my 32 heat run
Coming from a dead cells player, the difficulty feels artificial
high island
Artificial?
stable glen
everything just gets faster and hits harder, instead of introducing new enemies or new challenges
I like benefits package, that one is interesting
but just adding a bunch more of the same enemies, making em tankier, and making em faster, doesn't really add to the experience, at least not for me
high island
How is that more or less artificial than new enemy types?
stable glen
Have you played dead cells?
This entire explanation would make a lot more sense in that case
high island
I don't think it would. It's not more or less artificial in any objective sense. But I understand that you prefer new challenges rather than seemingly just the same challenges but faster/more damaging/tankier/etc.
stable glen
Cuz like, when you first start the game, you face a lot of very basic enemies to teach you the mechanics of the game, and as you progress through BC difficulties, most of those enemies get replaced with new ones with more difficult attack patterns, it brings something fresh to each difficulty level and makes the player feel like they're doing something new rather than doing the same thing but in a more difficult manner. DC also rewards the player for playing at higher difficulties as each BC difficulty unlocks more reward doors and increase the amount of cells you can collect
Hades is clearly balanced around 0 heat being the base game and higher heats are just challenges while DC as a game, is intended to be played at 5BC and treats 0BC as a tutorial difficulty
primal torrent
5BC didn’t come until later in a free dlc
stable glen
5BC didn’t come until later in a free dlc
the game in its early phases was very different, 4bc and 5bc are pretty much the same, minus malaise being 5bc only now and the final boss
mint coral
I enjoyed my 32 heat first time with eris, but i screamed of joy when i did it with beo, eris is fun but beo was amazing for me
primal torrent
I admit 32 Heat can be pretty suck, but it has a level of customization where you can at least change the modifiers to suit whatever attempt you want
stable glen
As a game, I think hades is way more fun, but I still think DC has better difficulty design
primal torrent
I agree
stable glen
beating 32 heat was relieving, I'm probably not gonna do it again for a while
high island
0 Heat is more of a casual difficulty. The attacks are fine-tuned for EM + BP2 + FO2, and BP2 is fine-tuned for various combos like BP2 + DC2 etc.
primal torrent
Though I hated the old malaise mechanic where you get hit for 1/10th of a malaise meter
stable glen
Old malaise was pure pain
primal torrent
A full 10/10 meant you would have 10% of your health until you found a way to lower the bar
stable glen
0 Heat is more of a casual difficulty. The attacks are fine-tuned for EM + BP2 +...
BP2 is interesting but FO2 is pretty intense
primal torrent
If you don’t like 0 Heat, Hell Mode is essentially the same but with a forced 5 heat
Also a lack of after-hit invincibility frames
But I’m not here for this, I have my own question based on an observation
rapid forum
I can only run FO1 nowadays, no FO is too slow lol
primal torrent
I noticed during my fight with Miniboss Asterius that I can hit him after his Invuln Shield when he’s walking to the center or out of the arena.
Is it possible to lower his health to 0 during this moment when you’re not in control?
stable glen
I beat 32 heat with FO1, TD3 was a pain sometimes
rapid forum
I don't think you can
high island
You can kill him in that time with DOT.
He'll just appear in the boss fight anyway, though.
primal torrent
It’d be funny if you can skip Asterius in the Theseus fight by killing him before he could make it to the arena
high island
I think it was @vast junco who had a clip of him doing that. Maybe I misremember.
Some chunky Hangover + Killing Freeze + Winter Harvest.
primal torrent
Cruel, dishonorable, but effective at escaping the underworld.
Also it’d be a very hard task because you only have a few seconds to kill him in a moment where you can’t move or press buttons. You’d have to be very strong beforehand or have set up a lot of traps in his pathway
granite plinth
dead cells is so lit
i can only beat 2bc
i don't think any other rougelite has combat as fun as dead cells
void vigil
heres a clip of it
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/exzme8/i_managed_to_kill_asterius_mid_cutscene_due_to/
dense mist
https://imgur.com/a/Ld2CZkS | what
bright jasper
Have you drunk from a fountain yet?
bright jasper
The hover-over in your loadout is tracking how much total bonus damage you've accumulated thus far.
chrome yoke
How do i open my boon menu where it shows all the boons during an attempt
split rock
I need to catch the Mati twice more to complete its entry as well as the entire Codex. I have been to the Chaos realm plenty of times where a fishing spot was eligible to show up but to no avail. Any tips?
mellow tide
I wish similar to how after a number of encounters the Lernaean Hydra is optionally nicknamed - after enough conditions are met "Hades, God of the Dead" could read "Hades, Father" or "Hades, dad". It would be kind of cool as you see their relationship repair.
signal aspen
I need to catch the Mati twice more to complete its entry as well as the entire ...
check wells for fishing lures and chaos gates
split rock
check wells for fishing lures and chaos gates
Yeah I do so but I've only had luck once where both showed in a well mid-biome. All the other times both would show in the well between biomes where the fishing spot would definitely show up in the first chamber at the start of the biome. I think I'll probably need Fated Persuasion to reroll for them.
brisk trail
I need to catch the Mati twice more to complete its entry as well as the entire ...
Basically just keep entering chaos, get skeletal fishing lures, and go for Poseidon’s legendary boon that increases the chance of a fishing spot
chrome wharf
Chaos fish is notoriously hard to get
brisk trail
You’ll need two of either the conch sunken treasure or oceans bounty
And yea
It feels like chaos fish have a reduced spawn chance
chrome wharf
gacha, basically
brisk trail
gacha, basically
Except for the fact it’s a really good game that you don’t need to blow money to do anything
stoic flame
imagine p2w hades
brisk trail
Oh god
15 dollars for a pack of 12 titans blood
20 dollars for 15 diamonds
✨numbers✨
hollow hawk
p2w in single player games doesnt make sense because most of them can be broken easily/saves can be edited
Whereas in a multiplayer game you can make it server side
though idk paying 20$ for a 2 sack sounds good to me
thorn marsh
paying 100$ for no barge ever i would take that deal tbh
thorn marsh
i would pay 10 million for flurry jab every hammer
brisk trail
Anyway back to trying to reach 600-700HP with sword hidden aspect
lunar orchid
How do i open my boon menu where it shows all the boons during an attempt
select
chrome yoke
B
chrome wharf
went back to my hell mode file to try getting some dialogue I missed on the other file
instantly reminded of how much pain there is without rerolls
lavish gyro
Rip sub 16
bold birch
How rng is it to get the antos companion? And when does dusa decides to give fidi?
stoic flame
none at all
just give them abrosia once
and u get it
ig completing the favour and waiting for the hearts to unlock is very rng dependant
signal aspen
Double edge
stable glen
how would a curse of longing build work with nemesis
ares on special and aphro on attack
stable glen
In too deep with the aphro build
signal aspen
Just do heartrend
stable glen
artemis on special?
stable glen
I did an ME nemesis build before with athena on special
but tbh I think ares would be better
mass inflict the doom and then just hit everything
stable glen
that's what I had, it was kinda annoying triggering it tho
i forgot heart rend works on nemesis without the artemis attack
so dumb
signal aspen
Bruh
mint coral
piercing wave is nice
breaching if you hate armor ig
stable glen
FINALLY MAXED OUT ALL WEAPON ASPECTS WOOT WOOT
mint coral
, nice
dark vector
how hard is em1 Lennie supposed to be BC I defeated him p easily
modern garnet
Em1?
Each em level affects 1 boss
Lernie doesn't change until em2
Em1 lernie is just regular lernie
And tbh em2 lernie isn't thaaaat much harder
dark vector
oooh
little dragon
isnt like
half of every enemies HP armor
300% damage against the first half of their bar, and instantly getting them to the point where you can stun lock them
is a pretty big deal
little dragon
pretty much every non boss enemy that matters tbh
depends on what weapon youre using though
fists you dashstrike constantly to get the double uppercut
bow you pretty much never do
sly salmon
I've gone through -4- runs now without seeing zeus once
and I don't have his keepsake
but I need to get aspect :(
stable glen
so many builds work with it, and it's just super fun
sly salmon
never had nectar and now I have too much
stable glen
well, good luck
stable glen
Pretty sure your god pool resets if you "give up"
sly salmon
oh?
stable glen
The boons offered don't, not early on at least, but you might get different gods
if you don't start with a god keepsake
a handy trick Ik
is to start my build with a good keepsake, let's say I'm doing chiron so I'm looking for special but artemis offers an epic attack
I give up and go aphro keepsake to get her epic attack
need some advice here
how much is it worth pomming something like this?
so I keep piling on thunder flourish, or add to static discharge a bit and balance em out
signal aspen
Jolted
stable glen
Muck, general advice tho
how much is it worth pomming something like that, as in a core boon
signal aspen
Yeah sorry I didn't read the whole thing
Pomming a core boon like thunder flourish is good but pomming a boon like jolted that has really good pom scaling is better
stable glen
Pomming a core boon like thunder flourish is good but pomming a boon like jolted...
so, try to balance em out?
signal aspen
Yeah
signal aspen
Yeah get tidal dash
stable glen
or aphro for her attack, and hopefully the aphro zeus duo
signal aspen
But you won't get sea storm with it
signal aspen
or aphro for her attack, and hopefully the aphro zeus duo
Yeah
stable glen
it's insane if you can get zeus' call
double strike
and then all the other zeus stuff
just piles on
signal aspen
stable glen
the legendary, the bonus damage
signal aspen
Get something like that
stable glen
I had a zeus build with smoldering air, epic zeus cast, epic billowing strength plus poms, and proud bearing
it was insane
signal aspen
Nice
stable glen
how good is quick recovery?
sly salmon
can zeus spawn on starting boon without keepsake?
stable glen
can zeus spawn on starting boon without keepsake?
I think so
gaunt geyser
I havent played any game in 2 weeks and all i want to do is play hades...
gaunt geyser
can zeus spawn on starting boon without keepsake?
all gods par hermes and chaos can i believe.
as long as you dont have any other keep sake
stable glen
how does empowering flight work on zeus aspect
is it that the first time it hits after you send it out, then it triggers, or is for every hit of the special?
signal aspen
What does empowering flight do?
stable glen
next two attacks +80% after special hits
signal aspen
Oh
When you hit an enemy with your special and then recall it, the moment the shield lands in your hand you get the buff
stable glen
Ik charged shot is OP and all, but on zeus aspect I mainly use bull rush for mobility and getting my sheild back
so I'd send out the sheild, smacky smack, bull rush into the sheild, repeat
signal aspen
Take charged shot
stable glen
aight
the attack hits twice one I got earlier is so OP on zeus
lightning rod any good?
signal aspen
What's your build like rn?
stable glen
I got double strike, idk if that applies to it
signal aspen
It does
stable glen
signal aspen
Take the rod
stable glen
Honestly
one of the most satisfying feelings
is if you're running a 3 god build
and you get all 3 duos
I had the chance to get smoldering air in my last build, but went with the zeus legendary just to DPS on hades\
stable glen
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/846096254768775198/S...
Duo digger damn, I once had 4 and a legendary
That's a nutty ass chiron
signal aspen
Yeah
signal aspen
But I forgot to change to infernal soul so I couldn't get the 8th duo
stable glen
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/846096254768775198/S...
this combines the two popular chiron builds
oof
pearl stag
Does anyone else think there should be more weapons and gods in hades? Like a hammer or axe it would be a slower weapon with an area of attack and the special could be where zagarus slammes the axe down and knocks back enemies while damaging. For another God they could do Odin or appolo
stable glen
Does anyone else think there should be more weapons and gods in hades? Like a ha...
If they were to add more gods, they'd have to change the story
completely
signal aspen
They probably won't add anything new to hades
stable glen
a lot of other gods are mentioned in the game, but aren't in the main cast
river vigil
yep
stable glen
Demeter's sisters, helios, etc.
I think the current weapons cover a very broad span of playstyles
river vigil
hephaestus was also name dropped
stable glen
Does anyone else think there should be more weapons and gods in hades? Like a ha...
the hammer/axe you described, the hidden aspect of stygius does exactly that, ||slow AOE attack with massive damage, AOE special with knowckback ||
sly salmon
this game is teasing me so hard. after like 5 runs of not coming across zeus, I've found him twice in the same run, but both times in shops
aka no dialogue to get keepsake/aspect
stable glen
F
sly salmon
:(
pearl stag
That was just a suggestion but it would be cool to get more weapons
last cradle
think hades might have the best fanwork community ive ever seen
log onto twitter everyday and just get amazed by a new artist/cosplayer every time
steep elm
tried to go for a demeter cast build with achilles but the game was mean to me :(
i managed to get the arty-demeter boon early, and flurry jab
but nothing from chaos for extra stones, no arty legendary, no hermes cast bonuses, and no chill on cast
which cast mirror talent do y'all recommend for that one
thorn marsh
well styian is u wanna pray for an extra cast from chaos
royal thistle
E
thorn marsh
unshakeable mettle is just a better bronze skin
stable glen
I went brilliant reposte lol
stable glen
best offense is a good defense and the best defense is athena's legendary
stable glen
I'm looking for the ares doom boost and support fire
both of those boons are OP af
athena's legendary is decent
thorn marsh
should i do some late night achilles👀
stable glen
Support fire on fists
royal thistle
Athena leg just wins runs
stable glen
ridiculously OP
14 extra damage for everything you do
and the base fist damage is 15
I'm actually running pressure points with hunter's mark as well
both epic
only works on a few weapons and malphon is one of em
BOOM
Epic support fire
royal thistle
Chamber 8 fuo
Duo
LMAO
The hard choice splitting headache or trippy shot
Pog 2 duos now
3 duos
stable glen
Nice
steep elm
is it just me or does cold embrace suck
south lagoon
it's hard to use but can be very powerful
stable glen
royal thistle
P h a l a x
rapid forum
that is thicc blinding flash
thorn marsh
p h a l a n x
steep elm
i just wish cold embrace let the beam pierce you
stable glen
how does exposed work
thorn marsh
when u back stab it does more damage
royal thistle
Took world splitter as a meme
stable glen
i mean how is it applied
thorn marsh
if u hit them with an ability that can deflect
stable glen
do I have to deflect an attack into an enemy
thorn marsh
no
south lagoon
it doesnt have to hit a projectile or anything
rapid forum
you use deflect boons on enemy
stable glen
you use deflect boons on enemy
So if I dash through em, they become exposed
royal thistle
Why Is it doing 200+ crits on my drunken attack
rapid forum
yes
thorn marsh
So if I dash through em, they become exposed
yeah
stable glen
GG EZ on chiron
that thing backstabs for u
it's okay y'all I got a rare phalanx next room
I don't use cast much in this build except bosses and tanky enemies
sly salmon
oh my god
royal thistle
NOO
modern garnet
Hehehehe
sly salmon
chain lightning
modern garnet
Hell yeah
sly salmon
mmm
modern garnet
Electric lazer
royal thistle
I hate how lightning phalax bounces a bunch on two enemies
I never saw the king die so quickly
stable glen
royal thistle
D r u n k
stable glen
I have +61% attack from chaos
royal thistle
Fine
royal thistle
wait does chain lightning bounce between two targets multiple times?
No
sly salmon
I hate how lightning phalax bounces a bunch on two enemies
but
mint coral
my controller just died in the middle of lernie fight 
directly into lava
royal thistle
AHH
royal thistle
My controller dief
stable glen
I used all my rerolls for low tolerance
royal thistle
Ahh
rapid forum
I mean
royal thistle
NOOO
stable glen
but BI is so OP sometimes
rapid forum
low tolerance is better lol
royal thistle
My controller you betrayed me
stable glen
and calculated risk is absolutely useless
stable glen
Plan is
ares in elysium
get curse of vengance
pray for the duo
I GOT IT
LET'S GO
royal thistle
Lmao Zeus shield
thorn marsh
no hyper sprint or + dashes?
stable glen
no hyper sprint or + dashes?
dashes
swift loom
is hades a game you cant "beat"? or is there an ending?
thorn marsh
there's an ending but u can keep playing after that ending
swift loom
been playing for a while and im trying not to look it up in case some dumb youtuber makes a video with a thumbnail that shows some spoilery stuff
river vigil
is hades a game you cant "beat"? or is there an ending?
there is an ending but syou can play over and over again after said ending
swift loom
gotcha
oak ibex
Extremely tempted to make a "Make Up a Hades Player" twitter account if there isn't already one lol
swift loom
send me it if you do hsdfaagks
oak ibex
Bet lmao
hollow hawk
been playing for a while and im trying not to look it up in case some dumb youtu...
how many clears do you have?
swift loom
how many clears do you have?
clears?
hollow hawk
Have you beaten the final boss yet?
swift loom
no
hollow hawk
then you've not even began on the ending lol
swift loom
hollow hawk
How far have you gotten?
Id recommend staying in #h1-for-new-players since there might be spoilers for you here
swift loom
a tad
hollow hawk
What biome
swift loom
forget the name, lava everywhere
hollow hawk
asphodel
Yeah you should probably stay in #h1-for-new-players
unless you dont mind heavy spoilers for story
thorn marsh
i thought it was just finish with full health?
hollow hawk
the clear messages dont have priority
stable glen
UGH
hollow hawk
so its random
stable glen
perfect clear should have priority over everything else
rapid forum
I got perfect clear with acorn once
mossy lily
then it is useless
hollow hawk
yeah perfect clear does count with acorn
rapid forum
it was complete accidental
stable glen
What an insane build tho, posted it in #h1-victory-boasting
I finished with full health before
hollow hawk
then it is useless
Whats useless?
mossy lily
clear meaning that you didnt get hit?
therefore accorn not giving any value for saving your hp
stable glen
I usually don't take acorn, go for pom blossom unless it's high heat and I lost DDs
I did my 32 heat run with SD instead of DD
but at 20 heat I still run DD
mossy lily
tbh always used bracer
stable glen
just works for me
hollow hawk
clear meaning that you didnt get hit?
therefore accorn not giving any value for ...
I dont understand what you mean honestly, are you saying that acorn is useless because it blocks the clear message (it does not, if thats what you're saying)
hollow hawk
I did my 32 heat run with SD instead of DD
Yeah sd is generally recommended when you run lasting consequences 4
mossy lily
aight
hollow hawk
Which is typical to take on 32 heat
hollow hawk
thought "clear" as in damage
Clear means victory
A run in which you beat the final boss
sly salmon
32 heat o.o
stable glen
Yeah sd is generally recommended when you run lasting consequences 4
yeah, I ran LQ and the one that makes foes hit harder at 100%
sly salmon
highest I've cleared was 8
hollow hawk
cool cool
stable glen
I took my SD off by the last enemy
mossy lily
just dont get hit lol
hollow hawk
yeah thats what you're supposed to do with sd
hollow hawk
Get your health back to 30% each room if its low enough
hollow hawk
i think 40 heat personally for me is the sweet spot
Maybe even 45
after that its pain
stable glen
I think the greatest pleasure for me comes from getting good boons
mossy lily
i find all heat modifiers fair
stable glen
like exactly what you wanted
mossy lily
except the mirror restricting one
hollow hawk
yeah no
stable glen
How is there not a heat modifier that only disable fountains
I thought that would be the most obvious thing
hollow hawk
approval process + routine inspection makes you not have a build
stable glen
when I first got the pact of punishment
hollow hawk
jury summons + tight deadline 3 makes timer scary
stable glen
AP was a pain
stable glen
I was told to run TD3
hollow hawk
Yes
stable glen
but i got screwed
hollow hawk
or even td2 honestly
hollow hawk
Check the pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies for a good 32 pact guide
stable glen
as the damage was so high and I kept my distance
stable glen
Check the pins in <#725021448426749993> for a good 32 pact guide
Yeah, i saw it
Nyanyaa guided me through it
beat it the day after I beat 13 heat
hollow hawk
nice nice
stable glen
For fun, I like to stick around 15 heat for the gates
hollow hawk
I think i jumped from 16 to 32
stable glen
Erebus can be really good sometimes
hollow hawk
but it was a while ago so idk
erebus is only really viable in tartarus, sometimes asphodel
stable glen
I think the two biggest things I learned recently is to be aware of your god pool
hollow hawk
never in elysium
stable glen
and B. Abuse run seeds
stable glen
elysium erebus can have butterfly ball and gorgon head
The butterfly balls are really a pain
hollow hawk
ive took an erebus in ely once
stable glen
also the flame wheels in tartarus gates
stable glen
Butterfly balls
hollow hawk
flamewheels are fine, just run around
hollow hawk
and they'll die on walls and stuff
hollow hawk
Yeah its just that you get an onion instead of anything of use
stable glen
Yeah its just that you get an onion instead of anything of use
I mean, I wasn't going to get anything either way
It was right before the last chambers
so when I got out
hollow hawk
Ah
stable glen
I still got a last chamber pom for free
hollow hawk
Right right
hollow hawk
rerolling is not consistent by the way
Even on the same seed
Unless you clear out all the shades in the starting chamber
hollow hawk
you might get different boons sometimes
hollow hawk
core boons are gonna be the same
stable glen
That's what I usually start with
most of my builds involve using duo boons, or piling on zeus stuff
south lagoon
I'm still working through giving the last of the gods Nectar - I'm just curious cuz they are basically stating what the last unlock needed but i think i missed it on a couple.
like Poseidon mentioned catching enough fish, Dionysis mentioned giving enough ambrosia ? but i unlocked Zeus and Artemis without catching what it actually was they wanted me to do first
what was the last requirement for them
mint coral
talk(tm)
jokes aside for artemis i think it was hearing convo about certain character (pls someone remind me lol)
south lagoon
callisto?
modern garnet
zeus wants you to talk about him to other gods, artemis wants you to listen to her talk about callisto a lot
modern garnet
they're chatty
calm pelican
i think i still havent done poseidon's fish quest
south lagoon
at least artemis is sweet abt it
calm pelican
cant get a legendary fish