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thorn marsh
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yeah lol

native field
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Internet is back yey

kind pagoda
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so uhm, I advanced the lyre quest

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like orpheus told me to continue practicing

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is it 210 twangs each time?

native field
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No, just 210 in total

kind pagoda
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I did 210 total

native field
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Then you need to start a few new runs I think

kind pagoda
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quest advanced, so I now only need to keep talking to him

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aight

crisp fractal
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i didn't know dusa gave you back her ambrosia that's sick

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saves me a ton of grinding

elfin star
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Hello

native field
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So uh

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I didint know something happenned if you cleared all the satyr tunnels

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i'm now questioning my sanity

kind pagoda
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wait does something happen?

native field
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Lets say, uh

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unique miniboss

kind pagoda
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you mean ||the tiny vermin||?

hollow hawk
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That's not for clearing all of them

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That's just a miniboss that can sometimes appear

rapid forum
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tbh

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I prefer that over big boi remy

river vigil
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thats just a miniboss doe

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depends on ur luck

river vigil
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big boi remy is way faster imo

void vigil
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i always lose a very significant amount of health to tiny vermin, so i hate when i encounter it

rapid forum
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because it's not spouting poison everywhere

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I prefer the rat just attack me

void vigil
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except once, when i did the encounter with no damage, but i cant repeat that

river vigil
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and its a bit annoying

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so i prefer anything but vermin

void vigil
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no, it just summons a million rats that spout poison everywhere dusa

rapid forum
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the area is bigger

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ok maybe I got stockholm syndrome

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cause I did like

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6 runs in the afternoon

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and all of them

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and I mean ALL OF THEM

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have tiny vermin

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so now that I fought big boi remy

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I feel like something's missing....

dusky wedge
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rawr

steep bobcat
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any tips for beating hades with the bow for someone who is bad at range?

river vigil
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two words, dash strikes

rapid forum
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ah yes

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my fav bow hammer

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where I shoot HECKING SWORDS

rapid forum
shadow kernel
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What is considered a fast time

manic bobcat
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Sub 10?

thorn marsh
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fast times are subjective imo

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but the best goal is probably sub 10

brisk trail
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I think you get hermes would be jealous for sub 12

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as an ingame pointer

river vigil
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really?

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i got that at sub 13

thorn marsh
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then i think u got swiftness of hermes

river vigil
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oh nvm its sub 15

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i also got it at 14.55

vapid narwhal
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for most people anything under 15 is very fast

thorn marsh
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im pretty sure thats swiftness

vapid narwhal
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hell even sub 20 isnt a slouch

thorn marsh
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anything under 15 is SWIFTNESS of hermes

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and anything under 12 is hermes would be JEALOUS

frozen granite
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artemis still havent give me my hidden bow ๐Ÿ˜

river vigil
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gotta get sub 12 then haha

steep bobcat
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what keepsake is the best with the bow?

brisk trail
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Either Adamant Arrowhead (Artemis) or Eternal Rose (Aphrodite).

thorn marsh
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i mean

steep bobcat
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and later on i should swap it with skelly's for the extra revive or smth?

brisk trail
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Generally god Keepsakes get shuffled per biome so you get the guaranteed appearance.

thorn marsh
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normally u could probably force god god whatever whatever so u can get a good build plus some survivability if u so choose

brisk trail
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You want Olympians for Tartarus/Asphodel, Elysium if you're feeling froggy/aren't pushing for time or high Heat, then something to help with the final boss in Styx.

jolly laurel
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does blood frenzy stack?

signal aspen
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no

jolly laurel
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aw

frozen granite
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"Parry this you filthy casual!" - I shouted as i threw my entire collection of beyblades at Theseus

sick ridge
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beyblades with hunting blades is kinda broken

ivory iris
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umm guyz how take a titans blood if i already kill 1st boss wit all weapons?

plush dock
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have you gotten the pact of punishment?

stoic flame
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how does one achieve hypnos bond

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whats his favour

brisk trail
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Keep talking to all of Nyx, Than, and Hypnos.

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Part of his storyline ||is Nyx and Than learning to be less harsh on Hypnos, because he does good work, he just needs a nudge in the right direction every once in a while.||

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Once that progress is made, you should open up options for his bond.

manic bobcat
high island
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You can buy Titan Blood sometimes in the shop in the 4th biome, and the Wretched Broker sometimes offers 1 Titan Blood for 15 Chthonic Keys

native field
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Ok I can now consistently do a perfect catch for fishing

signal aspen
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Nice

native field
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I've got 2 main tricks

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First, tie you reaction to holding E instead of pressing E (just now realising you guys are probably using a controller)

signal aspen
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I press j

native field
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I'm pretty sure the same principle would apply though

high island
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My trick is I just react really fast because I have amazing reactions.

signal aspen
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Nice

high island
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Thanks.

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Hope this helps others who are struggling.

signal aspen
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It does

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I struggle with catching fish

native field
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You only need to hold the button down, so instead of pressing and unpressing the button, you have a simpler action tied to the reaction

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My second trick is constantly screaming in my mind "wait for the flash wait for the flash wait for the flash wait for the flash"

high island
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Next time you struggle catching fish, remember I was probably reading chat while fishing to make getting a perfect catch more of a challenge and still probably got a perfect catch.

thorn marsh
high island
unborn remnant
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"just be faster lol"

high island
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I practiced my reactions a lot in fighting games before I was any good.

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Gotta keep practicing to stay sharp.

signal aspen
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I don't even react to things

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I just get hit and die

cerulean ferry
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That's the best strat

native field
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No tehe best strat is getting hit in each room with pinned butterfly

native field
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Oh man the mortal realm is really in a bad situation

royal thistle
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I've got built in 6 frames of lag from being used to smash plus playing on TV on switch so all the lag is mine

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So basically I never get the perfect catch

stoic flame
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rough

hollow hawk
high island
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I've no idea where you got that from, but peripheral vision reaction time is way slower.

signal aspen
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paper built different

kind pagoda
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how can i advance the story to the epilogue?

signal aspen
kind pagoda
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all of them?

signal aspen
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yeah

kind pagoda
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like fill to 5

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hearts

signal aspen
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max

kind pagoda
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ambrosia and such?

signal aspen
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yeah

kind pagoda
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that's brutal

signal aspen
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yeah

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but its worth it

kind pagoda
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ikr

royal thistle
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Less then 20 ms of input delay what's that: genshin players

kind pagoda
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what zag's weapon is worth investing blood in for skelly's quest?

signal aspen
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it has to be zag sword

kind pagoda
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oh

modern garnet
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Yeah unfortunately you have to put a bunch of blood into a weak aspect

kind pagoda
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by "renovate the lounge" in dusa's quest, how many "renovations" exactly must I have?

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do i have to buy the shortcut?

signal aspen
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Purchase the following Lounge items:
Service, Deep Cleaning: 15 Gemstone

Service, Detailing: 25 Gemstone

any rug

Any other items x 10

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this is what the wiki says

kind pagoda
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thanks

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oh and btw zeus atk, any high % special or merciful end on demeter?

signal aspen
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yeah

kind pagoda
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gotchu

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oh btw do i have do give chaos nectar?

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for anything

signal aspen
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for nyx's bond

kind pagoda
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k

radiant storm
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does the key for fated reroll give u persuasion even if you havent spent any points on it?

mint coral
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last time i did that i think it did

modern garnet
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Yeah you can get dice from keys without spending any darkness on dice

stable glen
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is drunken strike good on malphon?

signal aspen
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Yeah it's good

versed wasp
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Hello everyone

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I have little problem with Thanatos

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I don't understand how to unlock his locked heart

glossy remnant
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Man

versed wasp
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I gave him 6 nectars and I killed more enemies than him after it few times, I have his gift fully upgraded and I have all Informations in codex about him

glossy remnant
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I love this game so much c:

versed wasp
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Me too

glossy remnant
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||The queen just returned||

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I should probably go to sleep because I am ill af

modern garnet
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You just gotta keep talking to him and wait for him to get over himself

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Probably nothing more you can do

versed wasp
modern garnet
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Just gotta keep playing

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You're not missing anything

versed wasp
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Oki

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Thank you

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I really want see Hades and Thanatos togetherzagluv

steep bobcat
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I wanna play hades but its almost 1 am and i have work tomorrow

versed wasp
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Zagreus*

steep bobcat
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๐Ÿ˜”

primal tartan
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I can't seem to get Artemis to say that line which lead me to unlock the hidden weapon. I've discovered the spear, spent 5 blood on the bow, and have Aspect of Hera equipped. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to meet her in the first room of the run?

signal aspen
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Do you have the aspect of guan Yu discovered?

primal tartan
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Yeah, I do

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Have *

signal aspen
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Then it's just rng

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Just keep talking to her

primal tartan
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Aha, so it's not certain that she will have that conversation with you? RNG, damn you

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!

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Now on this run, she doesn't want to speak to much at all D:

native field
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Post credits goals can be summarised in two words really

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more nectar

primal tartan
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Given away one so far.

native field
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Like, in total

primal tartan
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oops

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I meant Ambrosia

native field
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Ah ok thats diffrent

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1 ambrosia makes sense

primal tartan
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Gave it to my Boyo

native field
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I've given it to 2 people so far

primal tartan
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Oh, cool.

I'm pretty new to Hades, just started to play a few days ago, but I've played many hours already

native field
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Nice

native field
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You know there is something I dont get

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Well tbh there are multiple things I dont get but

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Aphrodite's and Athena's duo boon

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why

modern garnet
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Actually I'm not really sure how that one works

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Does the 25% bonus backstab only apply to casts, or does it apply to all backstabs

signal aspen
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It gives casts the ability to backstab

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And gives casts an extra 35% extra backstab damage

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So casts deal 85% extra damage when they backstab

modern garnet
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Can aoe casts like poseidon backstab?

signal aspen
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Idk

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I don't think they can

modern garnet
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It's a really unique duo

native field
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yeah, and imo, kinda useless

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plus I'm not getting much vibes why this is the result of Athena & Aphrodite

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Like sure athena does have backstab bonuses with exposed

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But like I dont see the overlap

signal aspen
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It's used on phalanx shot hera since the casts backstab from the front

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But other than that it's kinda useless

native field
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UUGH

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why is the game choosing the same weapons to be thirsty

stable glen
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yo guys

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how do hermes boons work

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and what are the chances of getting them

manic bobcat
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100%

stable glen
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I bought hyper sprint in tartarus

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and now the asphodel 1st room hermes is offering me rare rush delivery

signal aspen
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You're guaranteed 2 hermes boons

manic bobcat
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you are guaranteed 2* Hermes boons per run

stable glen
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what are my chances of getting another hermes boon

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to get a permanent speed boost

manic bobcat
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zero

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well

signal aspen
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50%

manic bobcat
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technically

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you might get another one in Styx shop

stable glen
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Doing the omega zeus build

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with zeus sheild

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swift flourish?

manic bobcat
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Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery

signal aspen
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No

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Yeah

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Rush

manic bobcat
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is one of the strongest combo in the game

signal aspen
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Swift flourish on zeus shield stinky

manic bobcat
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always rush

stable glen
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wait how does rush work

manic bobcat
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after dash you get bonus damage

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damage big

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brain happy

stable glen
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it's a solid 75% or 75% of the bonus speed

signal aspen
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75% of bonus speed

stable glen
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OHHHHHHHH

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oh yeah

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I thought it was solid 75%

manic bobcat
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but bonus speed is 100% post dash

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so like

stable glen
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aight thanks gamers

manic bobcat
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it's 75%

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xD

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tomato tomato situation

signal aspen
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So with hyper sprint you get an extra 75% global damage boost

stable glen
manic bobcat
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.75 * 1 = .75 quik maf

stable glen
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thanks

native field
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Are youo guys sleppin on attack sped

signal aspen
manic bobcat
native field
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Idk, I like being able to attack fasted

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Faster*

signal aspen
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Swift flourish does nothing to zeus shield

native field
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though tbh Hermes boons are so good sp eh

manic bobcat
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you can cast and recall slightly faster meowtheh

signal aspen
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A global damage boost is way better

stable glen
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BOOM

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Legendary

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miniboss in asphodel

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now all I'm missing is double strike

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I was offered a common one but common is for peasants

native field
native field
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though if your running the kind of mixed build I really have trouble with I can kinda see that

stable glen
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and how combos work

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attack speed on fast weapons is great

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like the rail or malphon

manic bobcat
native field
stable glen
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especially since with those weapons, you're probably running something like lightning strike and support fire

stable glen
manic bobcat
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and the game is kinda badly balance around the attack stuff ngl

stable glen
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but on slower weapons like the sheild or spear, it doesn't do that much

native field
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I mean I like getting it for Arthur

stable glen
native field
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I actually dont take infinite ammo lucifer because I feel its damage scaling is really kinda important

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Though I guess later on in a run it could work with lightning & arrows

stable glen
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*late-run

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you can just dash around and non stop laser beam

native field
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That does sound pretty dope

stable glen
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got myself an epic aphro attacl

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not gonna use my attack to much

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but sweet surrender is one of the top tier "bonus" boons

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that's what I call the boons gods offer to scale their core boons

pliant sparrow
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pom blossom is pretty bad

native field
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So like

pliant sparrow
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you only get like 1 random pom per region

native field
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What to use if the weapon is too slow to Plume and Too unrelieable to Butterfly

pliant sparrow
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usually the keepsake order is: god -> god -> acorn/purse -> acorn

native field
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Acorn?

stable glen
native field
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Why acorn

stable glen
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Acorn, boss tanks

pliant sparrow
stable glen
pliant sparrow
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you're gonna clear out every single room in styx for 3-4 random poms?

stable glen
pliant sparrow
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and then face hades with no protection?

stable glen
slow wraith
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Well lads

stable glen
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It works pretty well

pliant sparrow
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i mean if ur low heat ig but if you dont have enough damage by styx id say the run is kinda doomed

stable glen
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If I'm 20 plus, then yeah, acorn

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but I'm working on bounties rn

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and tryna farm resources

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so if I'ma full clear styx, why not get poms for it

pliant sparrow
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id say hades keepsake adds more to damage than poms

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plus it clears poison

pliant sparrow
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yah

stable glen
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I usually have a call by then

pliant sparrow
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ah ok

stable glen
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I don't really run high heat

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I beat 32

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a day after 13

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and it wasn't an enjoyable
experience

native field
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But anyways- Is acorn really worth it over Lucky tooth

pliant sparrow
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if you have 3 dd yes

stable glen
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that's 5 whole hits

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which for hades, is usually more than acorn provides

native field
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You mean tooth

pliant sparrow
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under 3 dd then there could be an argument made for collar

native field
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Or SD

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Dont forget SD

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I think I use SD on malphon

pliant sparrow
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ah yah i feel like thats more for if you struggle with getting to hades tho

native field
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More like "I cant be bothered to dodge allk this frakin poison"

pliant sparrow
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Tooth: 100 hp
Acorn: ~200 hp without any heat

stable glen
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well, hades isn't a difficult fight

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EM4 is

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but I chose not to run it most of the time

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as it's such a long battle it's not really fun

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EM3 is a nice challenge

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But I didn't enjoy EM4

native field
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EM 1 & 2 are more or less free heat imo

stable glen
pliant sparrow
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nah i usually die once to em2

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headbangs are a real pain

stable glen
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EM2 is only difficult with heightened security

pliant sparrow
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especially so close together

native field
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Just git in and give em all the dakka

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Any notes on my progression btw

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I like that ive got a nice spreadsheet

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You know what

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I should probably add my fav mirror loadouts too

stable glen
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No zeus call, but still pretty damn good

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took an extra tunnel in styx by accident so no sub 15 but idk about speed

native field
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Ay das a pretty good speed

stable glen
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Honestly, do you guys use ares boons?

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Like do you ever try to go for an ares build?

native field
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Actually my first win was ares

stable glen
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I usually don't, idk, I've never found a situation where they work for me except his special on aspect of chaos and the bow aspects that aren't chiron and rama

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his revenge boons are good, but I don't usually aim for em

pliant sparrow
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me is op af

stable glen
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It is

thorn marsh
stable glen
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I've seen it, but I haven't used it myself

pliant sparrow
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also ive heard his cast is decent

stable glen
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what's the best weapon for it

pliant sparrow
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no idea

thorn marsh
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ME?

pliant sparrow
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achilles maybe

thorn marsh
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or slicing shot?

stoic flame
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I use ares boons

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they're pretty neat

native field
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Ares is a peculiar fellow, But in the right situation can be extremely good

thorn marsh
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ares cast or merciful end

native field
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Ares has two general mechanics, Doom and Blade Rifts

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In general, Doom is the more balanced one, while Blade Rifts....

pliant sparrow
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ME can be used in basically any melee weapon

native field
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Blade Rifts.

stoic flame
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there was a tike when I didn't know much about the game and almost always used the ares dash with fists because epic stun

thorn marsh
native field
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Blade rifts can get insane

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whats ME

pliant sparrow
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merciful end

stable glen
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Merciful end

thorn marsh
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merciful end

native field
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Oh

stable glen
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Athena and ares duo

native field
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Is that uh

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Oh.

pliant sparrow
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everytime you dash ares gets procced

native field
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I<m more of a fan of the Aphrodite one

stable glen
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when you dash into someone, your doom effects trigger

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wait

native field
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ME dosent make too much sense to me

stable glen
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does it work by applying the doom, then dashing

native field
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Aphrodite Ares tho

stable glen
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or does dashing apply

thorn marsh
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when u deflect and have doom on an opponent instantly procs

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dashing doesnt applu

pliant sparrow
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athena dash applies

thorn marsh
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ares attack athena special athena dash + impending is the core build for ME

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u need special for a prereq and dash to trigger the doom fast

stable glen
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or actually deflecting

river vigil
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dashing through them

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you dont have to deflect

thorn marsh
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dashing through them with athena dash and ME will proc doom

river vigil
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yep

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thats why its so op

native field
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Right thats what im thinking of

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CL

pliant sparrow
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if OP is based on how universally good a boon is, ME is right up there with heartrend

native field
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Curse of Longing

native field
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I like Curse of Longing

stable glen
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Heartrend is OP af

thorn marsh
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eh

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heart rend depends on the weapon

stable glen
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on nemesis sword?

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OP af

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Chiron too

thorn marsh
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fastest nemesis sword build is ME KEKW

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serrated point dire misfortune achilles

river vigil
native field
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Something I have to ask is if anyone likes hangover

river vigil
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whats also fun is ares with artemis duo boon, on ares cast

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for achilles

native field
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Like I love Dyonysus for like everything else

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But not his hangover

stable glen
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This one as well, chiron blow aphro and sweet surrender is just build diff

native field
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Which tbh now that I say it

stable glen
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it did like 1k damage per special

native field
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thats pretty symbolic

stable glen
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i like dionysus for his "hey don't die boons"

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but I don't really use hangover

thorn marsh
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hangover isnt used much

native field
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Cloud hera bow

thorn marsh
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dio hera?

thorn marsh
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its just dio beo but worse

river vigil
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i use aphro hera,ion think dio hera is that good

native field
thorn marsh
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dio beo does everything that dio hera does but better

native field
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Boom offscreen, butterfly go thunk

stable glen
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I usually lean towards aphro boons for high %s and sweet surrender, artemis for crit builds, zeus for zeus sheild, rail, and fists, and athena for DD, death defiance restores, and % boons here and there

native field
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there is advantage in not ramming yourself into a foe

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Advantage being not dying

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Internet probs cutting out any second now tho

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So gnight while I can?

stable glen
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Ya internet cuts out?

royal thistle
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Heavy knuckle demeter fists tidal dash

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Ravenous will

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I'm in so much pain

thorn marsh
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Sadge

royal thistle
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At least it does decent against bosses??

steep elm
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dang
was having a fun fists run at 27 heat, and i would've gotten em4 without using a single DD (only done it once before)
except that i lost one on the same frame i killed him

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just a matter of time before my first 32 win

royal thistle
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At least I got smoldering air..

thorn marsh
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smoldering is gud

royal thistle
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E

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Carry me common Athena aid

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At least my luck is picking up

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Not fea

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Really

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Parting shot when I never use cast

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P a I n

broken spear
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Yay

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I just beat meg

thorn marsh
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nice nice

broken spear
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Bit then Achilles wasn't there so I couldn't give titan blood

royal thistle
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E

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Don't forget new players channel exists

stoic flame
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wait what

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achilles wasnt there so you couldnt give titan blood????

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what does that mean

thorn marsh
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achilles sometimes disappears from the house

stoic flame
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whats that to do with blood

thorn marsh
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i think they meant nectar

royal thistle
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No more kenetic

steep elm
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playing rama bow with arty attack + aphro special
first hammer gives me repluse shot, chain shot, and relentless volley

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thoughts?

royal thistle
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Chain is cool

steep elm
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epic

royal thistle
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How did I get consistent dps..

thorn marsh
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relentless probably

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nah u definitely take relentless

royal thistle
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Ew

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Chain is cool

thorn marsh
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relentless is beeger number

royal thistle
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I mean he has arty attack

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So crit chain

thorn marsh
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sharanga literally does that anyway

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chain shot kinda uselss because u literally just have sharanga to do that anyway imo

royal thistle
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Yes but m o r e

thorn marsh
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but

royal thistle
#

Shared suffering

#

They suffer 3x more

thorn marsh
#

but

royal thistle
#

If it chains 3x

thorn marsh
#

they dont

royal thistle
#

But yes

thorn marsh
#

pls explain mr.enor

royal thistle
#

More suffering

thorn marsh
#

but

#

no

#

they suffer the same amount

royal thistle
#

But yes

thorn marsh
#

but absolutely no

royal thistle
#

Arti attack I see

#

So attack hammer

thorn marsh
#

but

#

TWIN SHOT TRIPLE are just way bettah

royal thistle
#

He didn't have those

thorn marsh
#

right

royal thistle
#

And you can stack chain and triple

#

And double

#

As well

steep elm
#

29 heat done

#

almost there

river vigil
#

nice

languid wolf
#

ah yes

#

died to the bone hydra then killed my first doomstone

river vigil
#

Doomstone?

crystal jackal
#

mini-boss in tartarus

river vigil
#

Oh the laser one

#

I forget enemy names smtms

languid wolf
#

f doomstones

all my homies hate doomstones

stoic flame
#

doomstones ez

#

screw sneak

#

all my homies hate sneak

river vigil
#

Sneak can sod off bruh, ruins my butterfly runs

#

When will hades be on gamepass again)

lucid quarry
void vigil
languid wolf
#

are sneaks in asphodel or have i not encountered them yet

stoic flame
#

no

crystal jackal
#

only in tartarus as a ||miniboss||

stoic flame
#

it's a taturus miniboss

honest elk
#

I had a sick setup with the spear yesterday and a bunch of buff boons

#

Then came the bull boss fight in Elysium I was prepared to take him but he brought his friend

#

F

hollow hawk
#

sneaks can also appear at the ||final boss if you have EM4 on||

frozen granite
#

aspect of talon good ?

brisk trail
#

its worse than zag and demeter and better than hidden aspect fists

frozen granite
#

dang, i threw 6 titan bloods into it already

thorn marsh
#

talos is mediocre at best

rapid forum
#

Curse of drowning is pretty good with talos

unborn remnant
stable glen
#

guys

#

do dash strike boons

#

apply to the special

#

chiron special

#

to be precise

#

like hunters dash

quartz garden
#

only if the special animation changes when you dash beforehand. Fists come to my mind. I know the dash upper of any fist aspect gets buffed by dash strike increases like the one from chaos or artemis hunter dash

stable glen
#

ah okay

brisk trail
#

I think it only works for fists ye

signal aspen
#

It works for dashing flight on shield and fists dash upper

floral ledge
#

Hey, I have a little spoilerino question. I would prefer if you wouldn't spoil me any details, just a yes or no answer would suffice: I just gave nectar to ||Bouldy||, I can't find this character in the codex so IDK if I will get anything from it. So the question is whether I should still give nectar to this character, meaning will I get anything out of it aside from wasting juice?

rapid forum
#

you get random buff for that run

glossy remnant
#

I still can not gift hades
help?

floral ledge
void vigil
#

You get a small, temporary boon for that run only, and you can infinitely gift bouldy nectar, so donโ€™t waste it!

floral ledge
rapid forum
#

all of my nectars are for bouldy now bouldy

glossy remnant
#

But

#

I got the queen back

#

more?

#

:c

void vigil
#

Keep talking to him, itโ€™s not instantaneous

river vigil
#

wait until he thanks you for it, keep talkin to him

stoic flame
#

there is literally nothing else to do

#

with da nectar

void vigil
#

I actually save them to trade them for ambrosiaโ€ฆ even though Iโ€™ll never need it againโ€ฆโ€ฆ.

stoic flame
glossy remnant
#

I mean

void vigil
#

To be fair I still have all the ranks to advance

glossy remnant
#

how many runs

void vigil
#

But I have nowhere near enough darkness

stoic flame
glossy remnant
#

till I can gift to father hades?

#

how many runs after ending?

thorn marsh
#

thats rng

glossy remnant
#

:c

#

ok thx

floral ledge
#

I mean, the buff is rather worthless, but still better than nothing when you're stuck with Sissy-puss

stoic flame
#

rough

thorn marsh
#

because its a certain dialogue u need

brisk trail
#

you get money

stoic flame
#

bouldy buffs are game changing

glossy remnant
#

wha

#

what?

#

bouldy?

stoic flame
#

/s

floral ledge
#

yeah but I'll take most things over overly-attached-to-boulder-boy-dude-man

stoic flame
#

true

#

but thicc money

thorn marsh
#

sometimes bouldy give u ambiguity and u cry

#

but other times he gives u +10% cast damage on a cast weapon and we S T O N K

stoic flame
rapid forum
#

every successful EM4 run I've had are thanks to bouldy

plush dock
#

i just gave dusa FOUR AMBROSIA BOTTLES and i didn't get a cute chibi of her

#

is it bcs she's already a cute chibi

signal aspen
#

are you a dusa stan now?

plush dock
#

i have always been

#

she's the best girl fight me

brisk trail
#

What would be the best kind of boons for sheild? Direct damage buff ones? Perecent damage buff?

thorn marsh
#

whats the aspect?

floral ledge
#

for standard shield I like attack and dash attack

#

haven't played the others

#

I mean Zag's shield

thorn marsh
#

i mean the boons u want on shield vary from aspect to aspect

floral ledge
#

wow demeter's boon to upgrade several boons to heroic over time

#

got it at first styx room, now I have my important boons up and ready for the final battle

#

nerf pls

rapid forum
#

Climbing the high heats

#

You don't want any nerf

#

At all

high onyx
#

How many times I can make a gift to smb

signal aspen
#

i think that most people max out at 8 hearts

#

and for bouldy you can give him as much nectar as you want

high onyx
#

What can I get from dat

#

If I will give 8 for example

#

I just gave 3 times and got item only for 1st heard

#

is it better to give everybody at least once, to get all items ๐Ÿค”

signal aspen
#

giving characters more than 1 nectar is mostly for the story

high onyx
#

lgtm, I like this story (doesnt matter that I already know Greek mythology )

signal aspen
#

there are some characters that will give you a companion

floral ledge
#

I have 10 bloods sitting comfortably in my storage, now wondering what to get

#

it's probably either a new shield or fists

#

both of them I have Zag's

#

actually that might be the bow

#

because crits are boring

#

chiron maybe

#

sounds like a fun build

#

but shield dash strike isn't fun either

#

maybe hidden shield?

signal aspen
#

hidden shield is good

floral ledge
#

hahaha wtf it explodes now

#

10/10

#

dafuq I grab poseidon's keepsake, first item is daedalus, second is a key?!

signal aspen
#

yeah it be like that

bright comet
#

forced overtime 1 wasnt fun throughout the run, gonna try hades now, em4 btw

covert zenith
#

Have fun

signal aspen
#

oof

floral ledge
#

this shield is

covert zenith
#

I have ||MomPom|| on, and I'm offered Sweet Nectar, which increases any Pom of Power levels by one. I don't think it works for ||MomPom||?

crystal wind
#

Hello

signal aspen
crystal wind
covert zenith
#

Yeah I'm just wanting it to work

#

Oh well

crystal wind
#

@signal aspen

signal aspen
#

what

#

what do you want

crystal wind
#

I reported a game that copied hades via technical support hades - pc, is there another place to report it or I did well to report it for this topic

signal aspen
#

uh

#

idk

crystal wind
glossy remnant
#

Man

void vigil
#

if its myth gods of asgard, i think supergiant are already aware of it

glossy remnant
#

the weekend you need to help me complete the game heat 1 with gunne

#

because I tried and failed agian and again to get a sub 36 run with it

#

Why

signal aspen
#

go faster

glossy remnant
#

With every other weapon I got it sub 29 :(

void vigil
#

if you dont buy anything in shops, convenience fee is basically no heat at all

glossy remnant
signal aspen
#

zeus attack, artemis special, poseidon dash

#

easy sub 6

glossy remnant
thorn marsh
#

nah

glossy remnant
#

:c

thorn marsh
#

the build pp man suggested is just the most solid build for gun

#

particularly eris

void vigil
#

for gun? dont use aphrodite attack, use zeus. athena dash is fine, i did all my gun runs with athena dash

bright comet
#

well i got a bit unlucky with the beams

brisk trail
bright comet
#

better run next time

brisk trail
#

i still dont have the blood for the aspects of shield

glossy remnant
#

my favorite build for all of them is athena dash + aphro ult. Because it is broken, you don't dodge, you just zoom arround. and ult, with the fully charged bonus it is really just op 2k dammage instant.

thorn marsh
brisk trail
void vigil
#

i did aphrodite attack with hestia though iirc. was kinda fun

bright comet
#

faster charge of bull rush is the best

brisk trail
#

and what would you recommend for chaos shield?

thorn marsh
bright comet
#

the rest is whatever

thorn marsh
#

chaos isnt very good imo

brisk trail
#

okay, i wanted the dragon rush but idk how to get it

glossy remnant
#

whaaaat?

thorn marsh
#

thats the hidden aspect

brisk trail
#

how do you get that?

bright comet
glossy remnant
#

if you need attack or special strenght chaos is pretty important

bright comet
#

chaos is king

glossy remnant
#

^

signal aspen
#

they talking about chaos aspect

thorn marsh
#

chaos is terrible

glossy remnant
#

Imma got some food, brb

bright comet
#

no u

thorn marsh
#

im talking about the shield aspect

bright comet
#

yes

#

same

brisk trail
#

lmao

signal aspen
#

aspect of chaos is not that good tbh

void vigil
thorn marsh
#

its kinda really bad imo

brisk trail
#

i only wanted to try chaos shield because moist said it was pretty epic

thorn marsh
#

it doesnt really do anything exceptional

#

doesnt do alot of damage like at all

brisk trail
#

dragon rush is way cooler ive played with the hammer rush damage upgrade its awesome

bright comet
#

aspect of chaos is magnum opus

thorn marsh
#

but its simply just not

void vigil
#

i invested all my blood into chaos aspect because people said it was good... and then it got nerfed into the ground

thorn marsh
#

all the shield aspects do more damage than chaos shield

signal aspen
#

zeus and beowulf are way better

#

even zag aspect

thorn marsh
#

hell even zag shield is just a tiny bit better

signal aspen
#

its way better

void vigil
#

its fine :) i like zag aspect

thorn marsh
#

zag shield can do heart rend while chaos shield just exists with zeus flourish

south lagoon
#

hey the only hammers I'm missing for prophecies now are Charged Flight on the shield and Exploding Launcher on the spear. do those go with specific aspects or something or have i just been unlucky finding them

thorn marsh
#

charged flight is locked and unavailable on zeus and chaos shield and u cant get exploding launcher on guan yu or achilles

south lagoon
#

thank u ๐Ÿ™

#

that would explain it

glossy remnant
#

I can not finish a run with the gun sub 36.

limpid quartz
#

I once got Heroic Aphro attack level 6. It was glorious

daring shoal
glossy remnant
#

I do not have any hidden aspects

daring shoal
#

Ah I see

glossy remnant
#

even less. I do not have the basic ones unlocked

daring shoal
#

Oof

#

Which attack boon were u using before

glossy remnant
#

attack?

#

ah

#

Hmm, what I got

daring shoal
#

With exagryph Zeus attack is thr best

glossy remnant
#

main thing for me was 100% or more dmg bonus

daring shoal
#

Or Artemis

high island
glossy remnant
#

yes

#

just the basic 9 min heat level 1

high island
#

That might help you go faster.

primal tartan
#

The RNG is pretty low to get Artemis to speak to me so I unlock the secret aspect? I've sยดdone all previous requisites. I never get the right dialoge.

brisk trail
#

so uhh i was stuck on ||asterius and theseus|| first but i somehow did that and ||styx temple|| so any tips for fighting ||hades||?

turbid quest
#

the strat ive got is to use call (one that can grant impervious effect) whenever he slashes that large area attack

#

i dont know how to call this attack he does...

brisk trail
#

aries?

turbid quest
#

for example ares' call, but some other gods grant impervious effect too

brisk trail
#

ah

turbid quest
#

i do that because this large area attack deals masive damage and is real difficult to dodge

brisk trail
#

makes sense

turbid quest
#

and uh... i died during his boss battle and i dont know why

brisk trail
#

god im so unprepared rn

#

i have one extra life and 200 hp

signal aspen
#

and if you get hit by boiling blood just run away

turbid quest
#

in my opinion the only difficult thing is that one attack

#

also ive got a question about the ||second phase||

#

why did i die instantly? i had like 50hp there and just dashed away

signal aspen
#

because you got hit

#

duh

turbid quest
#

i didnt see an attack

signal aspen
#

idk

turbid quest
#

on the first second of the ||phase||

signal aspen
#

well when he gets up from his second phase theres a shock wave that does damage

turbid quest
#

hmm okay

brisk trail
#

i got him to about 1/4 hp before i died

#

he didnt seem too difficult i just gotta get there more

turbid quest
#

imo the heroes are the hardest

brisk trail
#

i also wasnt doing quite enough dps imo but thats debatable

#

like his hp was dropping pretty quick

signal aspen
#

what was your build

thorn marsh
#

the satisfaction of phasing dad with beowulf is unreal

brisk trail
#

the aspect of zag with aphro attack, cast, and i think special

#

fists

primal tartan
crystal wind
signal aspen
crystal wind
#

I wanted to know how to get it too

primal tartan
primal tartan
signal aspen
#

ok then you have a severe case of bad rng

primal tartan
#

On this run I am on now, I've spoken to her 3 times. Still not getting the "Talk".

#

I've unlocked the ||secret aspect of the spear||, ||spent 5 blood on bow aspects.|| Am I missing something?

signal aspen
#

no

primal tartan
#

Guess you're right then. Severe case of the RNG. It doesn't matter which ||bow I have equipped?|| And the ||dialog can happen anywhere or only in the first chamber||?

signal aspen
#

i think you need the bow for the first dialogue

#

i dont think you need it for the second one

#

and it can happen anywhere

primal tartan
#

Oh, there are more than one dialog that needs to happen?

signal aspen
#

yeah

primal tartan
#

I see. Well, now she isn't even speaking to me, I'm just choosing boons from her

thorn marsh
#

artemis needs to say something about the bow being cool first

high island
#

She'll only say something the first time you see her on a run, unless that first time is in a shop, then she'll say something the second time you see her.

#

Just use the opportunity to get some bow bounties while you look for the dialogue.

primal tartan
#

I guess I'll try a third run after this. I think she mentioned somthing about my bow my previous run, or this one.

chrome yoke
#

i got some Ares buffs and i realized that Doom is really, really good

azure wraith
#

oh yeah, for sure @chrome yoke

chrome yoke
#

like i am absolute destroying everything rn

azure wraith
#

I really like when I get upgraded boons of doom and rupture going at the same time

chrome yoke
#

so far i have the doom attack and the ares dash

azure wraith
#

oo love the ares dash!

chrome yoke
#

i also just got the boon that makes ares dash better, this is a ares run at this point

#

i just absoluted DESTROYED a fury

azure wraith
#

Isn't that always so satisfying? ๐Ÿ™‚

chrome yoke
#

yes! Ares is my favorite god/boon giver now

south lagoon
#

ares rocks

signal aspen
#

yeah ares is pretty good

#

i dont use doom that much tho

stoic flame
#

doom is okay but blades are fun

#

ME tho

chrome yoke
#

doom is very cool imo

stoic flame
azure wraith
#

nothing wrong with that ooga ๐Ÿ™‚

stoic flame
#

its not bad

south lagoon
#

i love doom i haven't gotten the hang of blades yet

chrome yoke
#

i like how hades has default custom discord statuses, like ''Battling out of Asphodel''

stoic flame
#

yeah its pretty neat

south lagoon
#

yesss

signal aspen
#

its cool

rapid agate
#

hey

#

something got me wondering

#

are the styx doors references to auryn

#

from the neverending story

#

damn

#

i'll send the other link later

#

or you could always check the imgur link

primal tartan
#

Does it have any benefit to max out the hearts with someone? I just did it with Skelly. Last Ambrosia given.

signal aspen
#

no

primal tartan
#

Oh well, got a nice icon at least.

south lagoon
#

you get a cute lil icon over their keepsake and the satisfaction of a friend well earned

rapid agate
#

wish me luck boys

sharp dome
#

i may or may not have been dumping all of my stuff into cerberus thinking i would get a better health keepsake

rapid agate
#

i'm going into em4 hades

primal tartan
#

Good luck!

signal aspen
#

good luck

rapid agate
#

for the first time

sharp dome
#

em4?

rapid agate
#

god i'm gonna get destroyed but the music is gonna rock

stoic flame
#

gl

signal aspen
sharp dome
#

oh does that give them the new attacks

#

and stuff

south lagoon
#

yep

stoic flame
#

yeah

signal aspen
#

yeah

sharp dome
#

he gets a third phase right

signal aspen
#

yeah

chrome yoke
#

i feel like doom is very OP, i am absolutely shreddign thru bosses and rooms

rapid agate
#

i'm one life down

#

he's one life down

primal tartan
#

Hope you get him!

I'm just endlessly unlucky with Artemis dialog D:

stoic flame
#

rough

rapid agate
#

my discord formatting :(

#

anyway ya get the point

#

i'mma die

#

welp i died instantly

primal tartan
#

D:

signal aspen
#

F

rapid agate
#

but hey i'm employee of the day

#

or night

#

also that was my 123rd escape

primal tartan
#

Well,|| I got Arthur,|| no problem /:

signal aspen
#

nice

south lagoon
#

hey how many chambers each in tartarus + asphodel + elysium

signal aspen
#

14 in Tartarus
10 in Asphodel
12 in Elysium
Depends in Styx

south lagoon
#

thank u

stoic flame
#

whats a good build with beo

thorn marsh
#

cast build

signal aspen
#

aphro cast, mirage shot

thorn marsh
#

mirage shot can either do flood flare or aphro cast

#

if u want mirage aka beeg beeg number sooner do flood flare but if u even beeger number but less consistent mirage do aphro cast

stoic flame
#

aphro cast it is

thorn marsh
#

put arty on attack and poseidon ideally on dash or special

#

if u see cshot take it

steep elm
#

good general build options for nemesis sword? i usually take artemis attack and aphro special but idk if that's optimal

thorn marsh
#

heart rend and ME

hollow kettle
#

I just realized Theseusโ€™ tunic goes over the opposite shoulder on his portrait than it does on his sprite lmao

steep elm
#

went into styx missing 3 DDs and none of the THREE wells i found offered a kiss of styx

#

skelly save my soul

modern garnet
#

I feel like styx wells are rigged

steep elm
#

yeah.

modern garnet
#

Kissy styx pops up most of the time in other wells

steep elm
#

also, as for how i lost 3 DDs before styx: i hate greatshields i hate greatshields i hate greatshields

#

rama bow's one weakness ๐Ÿ˜”

chrome wharf
#

shields, the big butterfly and lava can burn in hell

steep elm
#

oh yeah. butterfly ball is normally easy but you just can't charge up rama shots

#

hate it

modern garnet
#

Imagine if a blue crystal had a shield...

steep elm
#

imagine if em4 got a shield

signal aspen
native field
#

Ok so, whats he opinion on the Little rib as a companion

teal belfry
#

I have it, but I've never used it. I only really use Mort and Battie.

native field
#

I like him mainly for 1 reason

#

Theseus

#

Hes really good at distracting theseus

#

idk if the others would damage more tho

versed wasp
#

When romance is avaible, I will be able to choose to be lovers or be friends?

teal belfry
#

You can chose either or.

versed wasp
#

Or I should stop giving ambrosia.

#

?

teal belfry
#

You can chose to stay friends and still finish the bond.

versed wasp
#

Thank you

teal belfry
#

No problem.

versed wasp
#

I'm waiting for Thanatos dialogue to unlock his Hearts zagluv
But I only have avaible Megaerashadedisgruntled

teal belfry
#

I have both Than and Megaera right now, and I can tell you that Than's was harder for me to get to than Meg's was.

versed wasp
#

I know

#

I didn't even wanted Megaera

#

And I really try to get Than

mint coral
#

started with common dio cast, got exclusive access so i sold the cast to get it in epic again SuiDerpy

native field
#

I love that

#

in the arena with the theseus fight there is one guy thats colored red and rolled down a Zag banner

#

And you have unique dialogue when you get close to him after the fight

kind pagoda
#

what to build on achilles?

thorn marsh
#

flurry jab splash dash start arty attack or zeus attack whichever u see first if u see zeus attack and dont have jolted by asphodel force zeus into asphodel for jolted

#

probably force arty again into asphodel if u dont have hunters mark by asphodel as well

#

but u start poseidon keepsake for splash dash

kind pagoda
#

aight

steep elm
#

good attack boons for guan yu? i've heard demeter can be nice

river vigil
#

hmm i usually use, arty or aphro, smtms athena

stable glen
#

Guys.

#

I think it might just be me

#

But asphodel is way harder than elysium on like 15 heat

signal aspen
#

That's just you

#

Probably

stable glen
#

unless I have divine dash

#

but at this point I stopped trying to get it 1st boon

#

elysium ain't too bad tho

#

minus the chariots

signal aspen
#

Interesting

chrome yoke
#

Asphodels lava is not fun

stable glen
#

Wave makers

#

those bomb mfs

#

lava

#

with divine dash

#

asphodel is easy af

#

hey guys

#

how good would would a merciful end be on nemesis sword?

#

I feel like I accidentally got there

#

thinking of an ares special with athena attack and dash

#

or should I go the other way around

#

never done it before

#

so I have no idea how it works

teal belfry
#

I would say go Ares atk and Athena special.

#

Divine Dash still works here obv.

stable glen
#

also, do you need to actually deflect to trigger it

#

or just use an ability with deflect

#

on the enemy