Stop simping for a dash that's kinda boring to use tbh.
#h1-discussion
manic bobcat
high island
Yes. The pom scaling is still great.
peak zealot
Aphro, dio, and demter dashes are useful for applyign status, and thats it. I'm not claiming they are for damage potato
brisk trail
I dont think nya was arguing that passion dash is better dmg than pos dash she said that it has different uses
ok
crude surge
well your basing your arguement off of posiedon having higher damage it seems
royal thistle
But I mean ram also thought beam > blades
hollow hawk
ive cleared mistral dash only%
royal thistle
👀
hollow hawk
afaik im the only one to have cleared it
brisk trail
beam is ok
peak zealot
The best beam builds are better than blades builds. The typical blades build is better than the typical beam build, but the DPS is pretty comparable
manic bobcat
Poseidon doesn't even have the best damage for certain weapons also.
On Attack bow id rather have hunter dash
And on fists, pos dash makes it awkward to consistently dash strike.
high island
I'd say both Casts suck.
hollow hawk
its the duos that make them good
robust scaffold
whats lodging?
hollow hawk
Each one is unique
hollow hawk
whats lodging?
The cast gets stuck in an enemy
Giving you boiling blood
or abyssal blood (eugh)
manic bobcat
whats lodging?
It's housing, like hotels or rental places.
robust scaffold
haha
hollow hawk
Lol
peak zealot
I wish zeus cast wasn't such a pain to use though
robust scaffold
yea the % dmg boost is significant for some builds
peak zealot
Tracking down casts after they bounce around everywhere is annoying
hollow hawk
Its not though @peak zealot i just throw it out and it hits things
oh yeah that part is hard
But then again im usually on stygian so i dont notice it as much
manic bobcat
That's why you use reloading cast 
hollow hawk
greater recall solves all problems
high island
Tidal Dash being amazing for DPS doesn't mean dashes aren't balanced for damage, anyway. You can't just look at dashes in isolation. They don't exist in isolation. Mistral Dash doesn't have Tidal Dash DPS, but Tidal Dash doesn't slow down bosses at all.
peak zealot
Ya, it just kills them
hollow hawk
tidal dash also doesn't look as cool as mistral
high island
And again, Poseidon's Attack sucks.
crude surge
super soaker 
peak zealot
I'll give you the fact that poseidons attack is kind of mediocre.
high island
Try "just killing" them with Tidal Dash at high heat.
hollow hawk
Thats only good with sea storm @crude surge
manic bobcat
And again, Poseidon's Attack sucks.
Last time I check, it actually repels enemy.
hollow hawk
Which is basically zeus attack with extra steps
peak zealot
@high island whats high heat to you
royal thistle
POS attack sucks outside of super soaker
high island
Last time I check, it actually repels enemy.
Touché.
manic bobcat
Yeah
high island
Yeah.
hollow hawk
POS attack sucks outside of super soaker
I guess you could say its a POS
manic bobcat
32 at the minimum since we are in #h1-discussion
royal thistle
Damn
manic bobcat
But usually 40+ is kinda implied.
hollow hawk
hades discussion for me is anywhere from 0 to 64 heat
manic bobcat
I'm still trying to get past first clear 
royal thistle
Builds is strictly for 35+
hollow hawk
Since it is hades discussion
peak zealot
Sometimes there are even some new players facing the bosses frot he first time
hollow hawk
@manic bobcat fresh file poggies
hollow hawk
Builds is strictly for 35+
uhh no
manic bobcat
I'm new 
royal thistle
So the sweats don't invade this channel
royal thistle
hi new im dad
Hi dad I'm mom
crude surge
hi dad I'm your son here to beat you up again
high island
I'm new <:plumwave:361106723840458752>
You play like that, yeah. I'll believe it.
royal thistle
how dare you call me a sweat
I didn't you chose to make yourself one
brisk trail
too bad all the sweats are already here because they are the most active members
royal thistle
You chose to think you were one
royal thistle
;) my ap2 run is going well
manic bobcat
I count at least 3 sweats
brisk trail
ap2 is def sweaty
high island
Officially, I guess I gotta consider high heat 32+ since I run the leaderboard that's 32+... but 32 is for chill and meme runs for me, personally.
manic bobcat
I don't even bother to dodge.
brisk trail
it means clearing the game with a bad build
royal thistle
Every run is a good run except a spear special run
brisk trail
more often than not
royal thistle
I mean just get lucky
brisk trail
gg ez
royal thistle
Gg
high island
Like, 32 is lets see how stupid I can play and get away with.
brisk trail
mistral dash only time
manic bobcat
Honestly I still sometimes die to 32 if EM4 is on.
hollow hawk
mistral dash only wasnt even bad
Though i did do 0 heat
Like the damage at dad was fine
brisk trail
I cant imagine it being bad just taking long
high island
Or lets get some 32 Heat speedrun WRs because they're easy grabs with no competition.
hollow hawk
It was a 26 minute run
royal thistle
Who thought explosive upper + demeter was a Good idea
brisk trail
thats not too bad
royal thistle
Mmm 400x4
manic bobcat
Who thought explosive upper + demeter was a Good idea
I did.
hollow hawk
I had a perfect dad fight, with acorn charge still left
high island
Honestly I still sometimes die to 32 if EM4 is on.
What's EM4? Pretty sure I don't have that in my game. 
hollow hawk
ask retrash
brisk trail
bring me back to beta
manic bobcat
What's EM4? Pretty sure I don't have that in my game. <:courte5DusaBond:85156835...
2 extreme 4 you
brisk trail
actually dont bc bow was worse
peak zealot
nice. @hollow hawk
manic bobcat
I just want to go all the way back to Nighty Night
When Spreadfire was God tier
No more of this Eris this Eris that
crude surge
what did they do to it
manic bobcat
Real gamer shotgun their enemies ro death
high island
I think I've done like three EM4 clears, and one of them was at 51, and all of them were probably with Epic Greatest Reflex lol.
hollow hawk
ive done 0
manic bobcat
Not this buffing this buffing that, global this global that
royal thistle
Eyo quad shielded enemy kill
hollow hawk
Im fine with just watching thank you
peak zealot
new topic, So the updgrade that adds a side passage to the lounge. How do I unlock access to that?
royal thistle
...
manic bobcat
You see, it's there but it's not.
hollow hawk
Not sure, I just got it after a while
peak zealot
On my current file, I'm 350 runs in and I haven't had the option to buy it
royal thistle
Then why
hollow hawk
I think its after lounge upgrades are done
peak zealot
I have them all. I think
I've been unable to purchase anything at the shop fora while now
manic bobcat
Do you know what it looks like?
twin mauve
wait… which passage
peak zealot
Ya, I bought the side passage on my first file
By on my second file, for whatever reason, I never got the chance to buy it
manic bobcat
wait… which passage
You see, it supposedly cuts the time you get to the lounge by 1s.
Imagine all the free time you can have with that.
royal thistle
The hardest fight is mm giant gorgon
manic bobcat
Literally 2 dashes away
peak zealot
IDK, the hardest fight is a group of 20 skulls all shileding eachother constantly.
manic bobcat
Zag is the type of person who walks on grass around a corner.
high island
F10 in game and ask for help in #h1-tech-support. They can tell you what you're missing if anything.
peak zealot
I'm on switch
high island
Well, can still ask for help there.
high island
The hardest fight is Meg.
manic bobcat
Is this a joke I'm too poor to understand.
peak zealot
I'm pretty sure the boss that has killed me the most ever is Thessius + Minotaur. At least when I was first playing through the game
manic bobcat
Something is so cool about playing while pooing
I'd rather read the back of my shampoo bottle like a normal person tyvm.
royal thistle
;( don't got a mudkip in pokemon
manic bobcat
royal thistle
Anyways croagunk is the best pokemon
crude surge
Shuckle
manic bobcat
manic bobcat
unreal atlas
I'm pretty sure the boss that has killed me the most ever is Thessius + Minotaur...
Theseus still kills me
crude surge
mods are asleep
peak zealot
I'm pretty sure the best pokemon is Gabumon, because he keeps his promises
manic bobcat
crude surge
Hades
peak zealot
honestly, a disney themed overhaul of this game would be amusing
royal thistle
Imma die
peak zealot
thats fine, you get 3 deaths or whatever
crude surge
kinda feel bad for Hades in that movie
royal thistle
thats fine, you get 3 deaths or whatever
But I don't like dying
peak zealot
then don't fight a large group of skulls shielding eachother
royal thistle
Just killed lernie with a Zeus dash
peak zealot
Poor lernie
royal thistle
Yeah he survived on legit 16 hp
peak zealot
that hydra had a family
manic bobcat
that hydra had a family
had
As it should be.
royal thistle
Rng guides my wheel
Ap2 only choose dark foresight weapons
Catholic coin purse
Mom blossom
Lmao draining cutter
peak zealot
well.. looks like this run is turning into meme beams
peak zealot
how many rerolls?
royal thistle
Dunno 7
10?
I got a lot of key rooms
But at the same time my special is stupidly strong
peak zealot
Has anyone figured out the max number of legendary boons its possible to get in a single run?
I think the most I've ever had is 8
peak zealot
was it fun?
royal thistle
This is why explosive upper with demeter shouldn't be a thing
Explosive upper 1 hit move with insane damage
Demeter how about 4
crude surge
big number
royal thistle
Takes 1/3 of thesis with 1 hit
My rng went so well it looks like a normal run
All I need is smoldering for this to get stupider or clean kill
Cool I can oneshot the green shielded beam things
Cool just unlocked priv status
Face tanked hadez
It was cool
To think I'd get epic special sweet surrender heart rend billowing 2nd wind exp upper
peak zealot
this might be victory boasting, but I think I just had one of the best meme beam runs I've ever had. Build was...
Achilles spear
epic lvl4 crystal beam
mirage shot
crystal clarity
common lvl2 glacial glare
heroic arctic blast
greater recall
+1 cast
heroic lvl4 pressure points
...took out half of hades health bar in about 4 seconds during second phase
torpid axle
Crystal beam does too much dmg
royal thistle
this might be victory boasting, but I think I just had one of the best meme beam...
Recall
peak zealot
ya, I didn't go into it planning to do beams
and I generally run 3 casts over recharing casts by default
unreal atlas
Dem Fists with literally any Upper hammer is so good
royal thistle
I mean it's kind balanced with kick and charge upper
But the other 2 are one hots
Hits
So it gets very well op
unreal atlas
Charge Upper should work with Dash-Special, change my mind
royal thistle
Eh.
Too op
It's compatible with explosive
Itd be rocket on steroids
Anyways hazard cluster when
unreal atlas
It's just too easy to accidentally dash-special when you expect a normal
unreal atlas
The window for Dash-special is wider than you'd think
royal thistle
I mean just Don't dash special
The window is small enough
That you can dash then not dash special
Like an 0.5 sec window
unreal atlas
0.5 seconds is honestly a bit too long - how long does a dash itself last?
unreal atlas
It definitely feels like you can hit the special button after the dash ends and still get the one-hit version (or six-hit with Dem)
unreal atlas
I sense we're talking about different things
royal thistle
🪃
🪀 build is so bad yet its funni
There are like 2 builds that actually like posideon
unreal atlas
Wall Slam does so much in tartarus but it loses all luster by elysium
And that's the least of Tempest's problems
stoic flame
lmao i was hunting for flurry jab on spear for so hard but only now i realise i have been playing hades aspect like a tool
high island
Hmm? Wall-slam damage scales with the biome. You do more damage in later biomes.
calm pelican
the sword feels very underwhelming compared to other weapons
the others all have better ranged attacks
brisk trail
fists?
sword is a struggle tho yeah
hidden aspect and piercing wave gets you nice range tho
high island
The Dash-Strike actually has decent range.
It's not an easy weapon to master, certainly.
Nemesis has amazing base DPS, though.
And Poseidon lets you do fun Cast builds.
calm pelican
why dash strike when i can just strike
calm pelican
:v
brisk trail
or you can be cool and delay the attack
to get a bit of invul :)
anyway moving still means not getting hit
dash striking through most enemies does the trick
calm pelican
i can just dash when im about to get hit
brisk trail
yeah
calm pelican
i made it to hades yesterday
couldnt even take him down once
XD
i watched a vid telling me not to get that anvil that gives me 2 random daedalus hammers
but i still did it
ended up with a short range double arrow attack on my bow
calm pelican
its good but i need to get up close
where he could do his spin attack
and destroy me
even with like 300+ health
i was using the 2nd aspect on the bow, the one that makes arrows follow the marked target
brisk trail
attack after he spins because he pauses after that
calm pelican
it needs 3 titan blood to lvl it up more but i think ill only be able to get 1-2 beating the first boss with my remaining weapons
brisk trail
and then anticipate next move
calm pelican
what do the flaming skulls do
brisk trail
they explode into shockwaves
and when you get hit by them you take extra dmg
as long as they are lodged into you
calm pelican
if i dodge the green wave am i safe or do i take damage inside the circle as well
brisk trail
you are safe
dashing into it is a good strat
if you dash away you are more likely to get hit
same for hades spin
calm pelican
if i use all my dashes as fast as i can am i invincible until the last one?
or am i vulnerable in between
for short amounts of time
i got 2 extra dashes but i kept forgetting about them and only used 2
smh
brisk trail
hm you should be invincible till the last one
but I dont remember it super well I dont have that many dashes often
its very safe for sure
calm pelican
whats duo boon rarity?
unreal atlas
I have no idea but you pretty much always want it
brisk trail
it shares the same rarity as legendary I think
unreal atlas
Just usually more accessible
brisk trail
you usually get prerequisites for duos faster ye
calm pelican
prerequisites?
unreal atlas
Since the prereqs for legendaries tend to be tier 2 boons from a single god
brisk trail
duos and legendaries need you to get specific boons to get them
calm pelican
no wonder i dont get legendaries often
my first one was unnatural id say, i had increased boon rarty
rarity*
unreal atlas
Duos are usually just "one each across your five buttons" unless it deals with something specific like a cast, where legendaries pretty much require every single boon from a single god
brisk trail
increased rarity helps them show up yeah
unreal atlas
For example, Ares legend requires both Blade Rift boons, and Artemis legend requires two of her three boons that DON'T directly relate to crits
hollow hawk
@calm pelican you can check the prerequisites for any duo or legendary in the codex
calm pelican
the book right?
hollow hawk
Yep
unreal atlas
Assuming you have the proper contract
unreal atlas
Press the "show boons" button on any god, and scroll
It's select by default on switch
Does having more requirements for a boon than strictly necessary make it more likely to show up?
calm pelican
is it better to spread boons out for attack, special, cast etc or to focus them on just 1 thing
brisk trail
if you get boons take boons
calm pelican
what about chaos boons vs something like daedalus' hammer or some other boon
unreal atlas
Daedalus and Hermes are special cases
You're pretty much guaranteed two of each over an escape attempt - no more, no less
(the final biome can break this rule though)
brisk trail
depends on your weapon and what your goal is I think
some weapons have sick hammers
some dont
chaos makes you skip a room so its good when you wanna go fas
unreal atlas
Is erebus the same?
calm pelican
so basically i could get 2 boons instead of a chaos boon
unreal atlas
I think what Toffel is saying is that Chaos Chambers count for distance the same as other doors
calm pelican
i dont have to fight enemies
hollow hawk
yeah
Thats why chaos is fast
And erebus isnt
erebus does have better rewards though
calm pelican
whats erebus
unreal atlas
Erebus is spoilers
hollow hawk
Better boon rarity, double poms/health/gold
Its something you get after your first clear
calm pelican
o
hollow hawk
as a contract
unreal atlas
Actually you know what if you haven't unlocked erebus you should probably be in #h1-for-new-players
calm pelican
i noticed i cant cancel some projectiles with my attacks
hollow hawk
i think only witches and dracon projectiles can be cancelled
calm pelican
i thought that was for completely new players
hollow hawk
Im sure of witches, not sure about dracon
nah its for anyone who hasn't gotten their first clear yet
Or if you wanna be really safe, anyone who hasn't gotten the true ending yet
unreal atlas
New Players just means anything post-First Clear is spoilers, a restriction that doesn't apply anywhere else
calm pelican
i thought the convos with everyone would be random after the first few but i think they're still unique
unreal atlas
No, they are random after the first few, it's just that there are a LOT in both categories
It takes a lot of runs to dry out a unique dialogue pool, and even then there's a variety
robust scaffold
for the temple of styx, is each chamber in the satyr tunnels considered as one encounter for the purposes of levelling keepsakes?
since i went through one tunnel and it was counted as 5
thinking of 5 sacking my next few runs to level my keepsakes faster haha
high island
Does having more requirements for a boon than strictly necessary make it more li...
No.
high island
for the temple of styx, is each chamber in the satyr tunnels considered as one e...
Yes.
As long as there's an encounter in the chamber.
robust scaffold
all chambers in the satyr tunnels are encounters except for the one with the satyr sack no?
high island
Correct.
robust scaffold
oki thanks
low oriole
Gotta say the exagryph has to be the biggest joke in this game
Like you have all the ancient Greek weapons a Sword, a Spear a Shield, a Bow and then Gun
modern garnet
I love meg's reaction to the rail
jagged wedge
Hmmm, should I pour my diamonds into unlock Erebus or reuniting the musicians?
robust scaffold
erebus isnt that impt unless u wanna go high heat and stuff
if u wanna progress story first go for music
musicians
shell crescent
high island
Third run, yes.
little quail
wow
Hades was ripped off apparently
but with norse gods
and it's for phones, obvi
(this is not a promotion, i just want to share how blatantly similar it is)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg6wA2DoEG8&t=150s
unborn remnant
I'm not surprised
a lot of devs are noting the success of Hades
expecting a mini-surge of roguelikes in the next year or so
Kinda wanna call it a Hadeslike, a heavily narrative focused roguelike
that will not catch on at all but it sounds fun to me
brisk trail
hasnt there always been a surge of rouge likes in the past years
unborn remnant
yeah
but Hades was easily one of the best selling roguelikes of the last couple years
void vigil
It has gacha 😭
unborn remnant
none of the other roguelikes have reached the mainstream like Hades has
brisk trail
hmm there was a time everyone would talk about isaac
brisk trail
since when has goty been a thing
unborn remnant
it doesnt really mean much
but casual fans look at that stuff for recognition
also the online ratings were overwhelmingly positive
manic bobcat
(this is not a promotion, i just want to share how blatantly similar it is)
http...
That's gonna be a yikes for me dawg
brisk trail
and goty will always be new games or whatever
well hades did go pretty well so I'll see what shots triple A devs are going to try to take
robust scaffold
id be surprised if triple A devs make a rougelike game
manic bobcat
Returnal
manic bobcat
Honestly roguelite is ripe for F2P mobile rip off
It's so easy to monetize the gameplay
robust scaffold
there have been roguelites on mobile for a really long time
brisk trail
time for pmd5
manic bobcat
i wouldnt say that is copying hades though
It's funny because there's almost a monthly tradition that people say Hades is a Diablo clone.
On the Steam forum that is.
robust scaffold
hades doesnt require much grinding
brisk trail
does diablo even have rouge like elememts I played that game just once
robust scaffold
i assume diablo has grinding
manic bobcat
does diablo even have rouge like elememts I played that game just once
Nope. It's just an RPG with dungeons you can explore.
brisk trail
but are the dungeons randomly generated
brisk trail
ah ok
manic bobcat
Technically loots can be random
brisk trail
this makes no sense then huh
manic bobcat
But that's loot grind
brisk trail
i guess ppl dont play many action games
manic bobcat
Not random temp power up
manic bobcat
i guess ppl dont play many action games
They see isometric they think Diablo
I mean look at this server. Back in May 2020 when I first joined, there were about 34k members (I think). Now we have 64k.
That's almost x2 in a year
brisk trail
terraria hardcore
if the definition goes to perma death and random generation
well well
high island
Mario Bros. is a roguelike-R, the -R means without random generation.
manic bobcat
I think it also needs a sort of mini stage separation, like "dungeons" (Isaac room, Hades chamber, Into the Breach scenarios, Darkest Dungeon exploration).
But then again who has ever agree on a definition of roguelites
brisk trail
who ever agreed on genre definitions tbh
torpid fox
which weapon is best for dealing with butterfly balls
brisk trail
this is less of a weapon matter
signal aspen
which weapon is best for dealing with butterfly balls
the weapon you are most comfortable with
brisk trail
kill them fast
manic bobcat
which weapon is best for dealing with butterfly balls
Triple Shot Bow or Demeter Fist can have some sick burst.
But yeah, every weapon is viable. But you can start with the above 2.
brisk trail
darkest dungeon isnt rly a rouge like to me but ppl say it is so I guess so
manic bobcat
darkest dungeon isnt rly a rouge like to me but ppl say it is so I guess so
Interesting. It's kinda is to me. But your opinion is as valid as mine.
This is case in point for no one agrees on what rogue means.
torpid fox
i hate this one encounter in elysium where there is butterfly balls with the great shields and strongbow foes
brisk trail
the missing part is player perma death, it has perma death on chars but then would FE be a rougelike?
high island
I don't really care for genres, anyway. For me personally, Hades is in the genre SGG.
brisk trail
the genre amazing 
also DD breaks it up in many mini dungeons instead of one bigger one
manic bobcat
i hate this one encounter in elysium where there is butterfly balls with the gre...
I know it sounds 4head but just burst down the ball. Occasionally you can kill whatever eyes that spawn nearby but don't go hunting for them.
brisk trail
if theres obstacles or the ball is far away enough you can even ignore it for a while
keep dashing through the butterflies and dont walk through them
manic bobcat
I don't really care for genres, anyway. For me personally, Hades is in the genre...
Hades is a beat em up.
It's actually kinda true lul
high island
SGG-defining features are well-polished action gameplay with a large variety of enemies/encounters; a touching story; a thrilling mystery; lovable (and often tragic) characters; outstanding music, voice acting, and sound design; beautiful art design; and a huge dose of wholesomeness and obvious love for every detail in the game that all come together to motivate me to actually play the game to its conclusion. 
And then some people tell me oh since you love Hades, you should play this other roguelike with generic plot and blank characters with no personality and... no thank you. 
manic bobcat
And then some people tell me oh since you love Hades, you should play this other...
Have you tried Myth: Gods of Asgard?
signal aspen
its a great game
high island
low oriole
Guys help
I've been playing continuously for 2 hours and now I can't bend half my fingers
manic bobcat
Just chop it off
signal aspen
good idea
low oriole
Hey what do yall think are the gods with the best boons
For me I'd say Dionysius Ares and Athena
And artemis
signal aspen
well it depends on the aspect
but ive found that artemis and aphro work on all weapons
signal aspen
uh oh
high island
You're not a fan of the highest % Attack and Special that also gives 30% damage reduction?
glass salmon
Sorry for the late reply I didn't check this server but hades just got out of early access, impossible for them to already make a hades 2 already
Just got the achievement that demotivated me turns out it wasn't even hard lmao
Finished it first try
unborn remnant
Zagreus would be such a cool addition to Smash Bros fr
wont happen until the next game but we can hope for a mii costume
glass salmon
Zagreus would be such a cool addition to Smash Bros fr
And than in brawlhalla
stoic flame
what weapons would he have
hmm
i think fait crossover is a good idea
orb and scythe
signal aspen
another jiro crossover?
signal aspen
yes
stoic flame
?????
signal aspen
he got turned into leonardo from tmnt
stoic flame
oh
i didnt see the new one
i think mordex has the most crossovers
a whopping
2
this is straying from hades
signal aspen
yeah it is
glass salmon
Tbh I want hades to have more crossovers
The only crossover ain't all that
It's literally just a soundtrack in csgo
stoic flame
hades god of war crossover when
chrome wharf
I'd totally mod in some hollow knight and undertale bosses if I had the art and tech sense
glass salmon
hades god of war crossover when
Wait, fr?
stoic flame
no i just want it
glass salmon
no i just want it
Someone made a fan edit
But tbh having kratos in the game as a dlc or an update would be pretty cool
stoic flame
yeah i saw
faxx
maybe we can play as kratos and just a new weapon
those blades
they look sick af
glass salmon
Imagine just picking the kratos boom and then he says "boy!"
glass salmon
Oh I feel like it would be good if they make a horizon forbidden west crossover
buoyant valley
Is there any special dialogue for beating the game on max heat
glass salmon
Is there any special dialogue for beating the game on max heat
Watch the vid of someone beating the game at 64 heat to find out
buoyant valley
or I could do it myself 
like that’s ever gonna happen
narrow hemlock
Is there any special dialogue for beating the game on max heat
no. just a couple throwaway lines when you crank up heat a certain point
brisk trail
sadly no vid of that exists rn
narrow hemlock
of 64 heat or the lines 
brisk trail
of 64 heat
robust scaffold
there is, but its seeded right
brisk trail
baj deleted their vid so not anymore
hollow hawk
baj deleted his whole channel i think
And all of his sr.com entries too
Sad stuff, the unseeded 61 heat grind just got to him hard
robust scaffold
thats sad
manic bobcat
baj deleted their vid so not anymore
really? was there a reason why?
im assuming no one bothered to archive those
oak ibex
I can't be the only one who says "I am speed" every time I get a boon that is associated with dashing or even just faster movement
brisk trail
really? was there a reason why?
i wouldnt know why I think someone might have archived the 64 run
digital slate
dude the bow is the best weapon bi far
oak ibex
Random Hades thought of the day: I suddenly want to see Hades reenact the scene from Brooklyn Nine-Nine with Hades as Captain Holt screaming "BOOOOOONE"
digital slate
umm what
oak ibex
You don't know that scene?
royal thistle
ngl I'd pay for a hades dlc with maybe like co op it'd sound fun
forgot td existed
lost a dd to one of the sisters
I feel great shame
manic bobcat
which includes?
unborn remnant
I might start ror2 soon
royal thistle
lmao just learned if you kill a boss with pos call you wave dash as you keep the momentum
cause zag just wave dashed towards the reward
unborn remnant
"Action Roguelike" implies the existence of Turn-Based Roguelikes right?
onyx skiff
huh
onyx skiff
never seen one
royal thistle
like card based ones
manic bobcat
"Action Roguelike" implies the existence of Turn-Based Roguelikes right?
or, like, you know, the original rogue
which is turn based
onyx skiff
big fan of roguelikes, but im probably hardly a proper fan compared to some
onyx skiff
me neither
manic bobcat
I did not play the original rogue
Fair enough. I didn't play it either. But I guess a nice piece of trivia for today
onyx skiff
which includes?
well the ones i reinstalled are: wizard of legend, heroes of hammerwatch, dead cells and children of morta
onyx skiff
its so good
chrome wharf
turn-based roguelike
yeah the best one, pokemon mystery dungeon
royal thistle
it feels wrong to call it one
since when I hear rogue like I just think.. hmm indie game
hollow wave
Artemis having a little fingerling over Achilles is absolutely adorable and reminds me of why Ive always adored her, both because shes a ass kicking lady and out of all the Olympians, her and Dionysus always feel like the ones who are closest to humanity
royal thistle
fingerling??
hollow wave
*fangirling @royal thistle
onyx skiff
fingerling
granite ether
Artemis fangirling over Achilles is incredibly relatible
Also gives off heaps of ace vibes
hollow wave
Hmm?
And personally I more so fangirl over Daedalus and Artemis herself but eh to each to their own
brisk trail
I got ME on my Achilles spear, it’s amazing.
hollow wave
he doesnt even show up 🗿
I mean in mythology in general lol
onyx skiff
🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿 he doesnt even show up
hasty stream
is it a good idea to play with hell mode on for my first playthrough or will i regret it
limpid quartz
I got ME on my Achilles spear, it’s amazing.
ME’s just good
For all weapons
aside from maybe Rail and Bow
brisk trail
But it took a lot of rng to get it
onyx skiff
sorry im a clown
its fine bro i'm with you
unborn remnant
chrome wharf
is it a good idea to play with hell mode on for my first playthrough or will i r...
if you played a lot of real time action games you can give it a try
onyx skiff
lets go
just beat hades finally
feel like this was late coming
coulda done it a while ago if i had just tried harder lmao
chrome wharf
Congrats!
unborn remnant
dub
hasty stream
is the bow better than the sword?
onyx skiff
is it a good idea to play with hell mode on for my first playthrough or will i r...
and no
manic bobcat
is the bow better than the sword?
both are good. there isn't a best weapon, just preferences.
Hell Mode is fine. The game is a bit more punishing, that's about it.
In the end, Hell Mode and Normal Mode are literally 99% similar anyhow
sterile drift
hi
manic bobcat
are there any benifits from doing hell mode?
not really. hell mode is more restrictive. so your first attempt of escape would be a decent amount harder.
end game contents are virtually the same though.
onyx skiff
ah shame
manic bobcat
do it for a sense of pride and achievement
and if you hangout in #h1-high-heat-strategies long enough i guess Hell Mode is better because you get access to Personal Liability. It's a bit niche though
carmine basin
Crossing fingers a store in my country receives the physical edition of Hades, I am so ready to pour another hundreds of hours 
manic bobcat
which platform are you buying it for?
golden spire
hey guys quick question, what’s the max heat number for each weapon, like when do you stop receiving bounties?
golden spire
thank you
robust scaffold
i beat charon yay
dense valley
Nice!
clear python
Gg
marsh bloom
hi guys
where can i ask about the cross save Switch-PS4?
i mean...at least try to ask..
high island
where can i ask about the cross save Switch-PS4?
digital slate
is there a developer in this server
sterile drift
a developer for the game?
brisk trail
they are but they dont usually talk
sterile drift
im not a developer for this game, but i make games for fun in my spare time
digital slate
ok but just wana say that game is amazing
sterile drift
u can see who is who in #readme-first btw
marsh bloom
https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1404158016329453569
Why they say always the same? in my opinion it's the Sony will, because there are already games that has the cross save beetween Switch and ps4, so is not so impossibile, because Hades already has cross save Switch-pc, and many games has cross save pc-ps4, so why not to implement cross save Switch-ps4? it's just because they want to sell much as possible, because they can, if they want
high island
I don't see the point in such speculations.
marsh bloom
I don't see the point in such speculations.
what?
high island
I don't see the point in your assumptions.
They tried and were unable to do it. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but they have limited time and resources and decided to prioritize other things and not try again.
If you want to believe it's a Sony conspiracy when there's no evidence for it and a much simpler explanation, go ahead.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
carmine basin
No Cross save is bit of a bummer, but honestly?
I'm pumped at the idea of 100% all over again lol
zenith crown
Once you've beaten a boss and get darkness instead do you get more darkness for the EM versions?
gleaming nacelle
no
zenith crown
I thought that would be the case. Thanks.
chilly sonnet
Does cosmic egg help your chances of a chaos gate at all?
manic bobcat
No
stiff musk
all cosmic egg does it make you take no dmg upon entering and raise boon rarity
chrome wharf
too scrubby to do EM4 for fathers day so I just bought him the new chair
while he was sitting on it. Of course
high island
Datamined content isn't to be discussed in the server, unfortunately.
chilly sonnet
Ah Fathers Day
A beautiful day to continuously beat the characters father to death
hearty bramble
Datamined content isn't to be discussed in the server, unfortunately.
ooh my bad!
tight saddle
when you get double nova and then get tempest flourish
calm pelican
is there some way to get titans blood after getting it from the first boss using all the weapons?
signal aspen
you can trade for it
and you can get some from prophecies
but the best way to get more titan blood is to kill the final boss
after killing the final boss you will get more titan blood
calm pelican
that guy has three health bars right?
signal aspen
2
oak ibex
Bouncing off of the fanart shown in the announcements channel, I find it funny that Chaos congratulated me when I caught my first projelly
tight saddle
is there some way to get titans blood after getting it from the first boss using...
the wicked broker will sometimes offer it, the final boss drops titan blood the first time, and there's more blood for every heat level so let's say you had a heat level of 10 on a weapon, that weapon would be able to drop 10 more titan bloods until you needed to increase the heat. This also applies to diamonds and ambrosia
calm pelican
ok thanks
robust scaffold
the wicked broker will sometimes offer it, the final boss drops titan blood the ...
reminds me of when i recently swapped 1 titan blood for 200 gems
i felt so dumb since i thought it was the other way round
slim basin
Does hades on xbox support Cross saves with switch?
chrome wharf
Bouncing off of the fanart shown in the announcements channel, I find it funny t...
I actually got a surface fish in forever on my father's day run LOL alas I was too slow to perfect catch
charred hemlock
is there something that locks out flying kick or am i just unlucky?
tight saddle
||I still can't get over how this whole time Zagreus could've just dipped his feet in the water that was rIGHT THERE and been able to keep talking to persephone long enough for it to not take 10 runs||
slim basin
https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1404828854519164928?s=20
That's a shame
unborn remnant
I'm just very excited to see what sgg does next
i didnt expect them to knock it out of the park like they did
crisp fractal
what's the easiest way to farm darkness, poseidon build?
robust scaffold
poseidon and chaos yea
crisp fractal
I need a ton for fated persuasion and authority
robust scaffold
yea it sucks that the darkness requirement is so high for that
if u have any weapons that have cleared all 20 bounties u should use that instead since u get darkness from beating bosses too
crisp fractal
how exactly does persuasion work, it says "each time" I believe, do the rolls refresh each boon?
crisp fractal
if u have any weapons that have cleared all 20 bounties u should use that instea...
do I get more from high heat runs or can I just run through on the basic difficulty?
robust scaffold
heat doesnt affect darkness i think
so if uve cleared all the bounties u can go 0 heat to farm darkness
for fated persusasion im not too sure, i think it rerolls but only 1 boon changes?
someone else in this server might know more
void vigil
all 3 boons change and the cost of rerolling goes up
robust scaffold
oh
onyx skiff
I just got a choice between heroic tempest strike, and huge catch
chrome wharf
you can buy the effect of having key rooms give you 1 reroll point from the contractor
robust scaffold
yea, u should get all of the upgrades that give ur resource rooms extra bonuses
robust scaffold
omg i have hunting blades, engulfing vortex and flurry cast
hopefully i can win this
narrow hemlock
🙏 may ares bring you victory 
high island
is there something that locks out flying kick or am i just unlucky?
Not entirely sure if you mean Flying Cutter or Rush Kick. Regardless, both are incompatible with each other and Kinetic Launcher as well as with the Aspect of Talos.
robust scaffold
🙏 may ares bring you victory <:ares:756733470004215959>
thanks haha i won the run
robust scaffold
my first escape with heat
yea same it is quite cheese
limpid quartz
Just got the ending for Hades let’s goo
charred hemlock
Not entirely sure if you mean Flying Cutter or Rush Kick. Regardless, both are i...
yeah i meant rush kick i guess was just unlucky
wanted to do a rush kick poseidon build
with normal fist
cyan tiger
if i have the ares attack, does the doom stack
or do i need that boon for it to stack
modern garnet
Doom doesn't stack, normally
royal thistle
You need boon
low oriole
Oh wow
Just finished the main story for the first time
That was the most epic boat ride in the universe
Welp
Time to see how high I can slowly turn up the heat till I get bored
frank kite
Just got to Hades for the second time and found out about the second phase the hard way
signal aspen
15 more phases to be exact
frank kite
Was a good run too, had super Demeter casts, auto charging God gauge, and a lot of other good stuff, RIP
crude surge
A phase gets added every time you die
chrome wharf
you'll get him next time
frank kite
3rd time’s the charm hopefully
signal aspen
A phase gets added every time you die
Yeah but it caps at 15
16 phases would be way too hard
crude surge
Only with god mode though
signal aspen
So they kept it at an easy 15
signal aspen
Only with god mode though
No
On normal and god mode it caps at 15
On hell mode it caps at 69
frank kite
The first run I made it to Hades it was the most scuff run with a massive hodgepodge of boons, only reason I had any success was because I had like 400 health and still had a Death Defiance
brisk trail
The first run I made it to Hades it was the most scuff run with a massive hodgep...
Isn’t that how everyones first clear goes?
chrome wharf
first time I got to hades was my second try with the bow, ever. I started it late at night thinking "eh, I've never even made it past champions before, just gonna try filling out some prophecies and farm some stuff"
40 minutes later I'm staring at dad going "uhhhhhh hi??"
limpid quartz
Man
I’m trash with the bow
modern garnet
When you click with the bow you really click
But I guess all weapons are like that
charred hemlock
question does deadly reversal make athena cast crit 🤔
signal aspen
It makes all damage coming from zag have a 20% chance to crit
charred hemlock
ah so it does include the cast cool cuz i was critting for 3557 damage because i had an epic boon of chaos that made me do more damage when i backstab
as well as parting shot
signal aspen
Nice
charred hemlock
though not sure if parting shot counts for shadow slash
signal aspen
Parting shot makes it so your casts can backstab
So your casts get the 50% extra backstab damage from the mirror
And gets a bonus 35% from the boon
charred hemlock
ah ok
signal aspen
It also gets bonus backstab damage from exposed and chaos boons
And it probably gets bonus backstab damage from the well of charon item
rough belfry
haiiii
signal aspen
Hello
quiet arch
Saaame lmao
Try Chiron with Dio boons on special
rough belfry
do i just randomly get the boons back across the story?
is there anyone who hasn't died since the first run
modern garnet
yeah people can win on their first run
crude surge
When you die you lose all of your gold laurels
You don’t get them back later if that’s what you mean
modern garnet
a lot of things reset when you die
earnest ridge
how do i unlock Deluxe Contractor's Desk?
limpid quartz
Try Chiron with Dio boons on special
I’ve tried Chiron Aspect with Artemis Special
limpid quartz
how many times?
Idk
quiet arch
I’ve tried Chiron Aspect with Artemis Special
Artemis special have high damage, but they don't stack like Dio's and Demeter's
modern garnet
i beat hades once, i dont see how to unlock it with 2 diamonds
the contractor desk upgrade has a bunch of prerequisites
earnest ridge
is there anywhere to look at the prereq?
modern garnet
I'm on the wiki
it says this
Fountain Chamber, Elysium Keepsake Collection, Regional Fated List of Minor Prophecies Plunder, Lesser Urns of Wealth, Lesser Court Musician's Sentence
earnest ridge
ah ok thanks
plain rain
Best the final boss and am really sad about ||not being able to actually see and fish at Persephone’s cottage.|| The only thing I’d change about the game. ||The runs seem endless and a bit sad without that breath of fresh air|| 😢
robust scaffold
yea true
its sad that its not accessible at all even though they already made that area
forest ruin
Best the final boss and am really sad about ||not being able to actually see and...
I was able to ||fish at Persephone's cottage|| in the area beside the wheat I think. Could just be imagining it.
Also I've unlocked ||4 non Zagreus aspects of weapons|| and Skelly still ||hasnt asked me for a favor||. Help please
Did I make a mistake along the way?
manic bobcat
Not really. Just keep trying at it.
Talk to him and gifting him every chance you get, of course.
manic bobcat
yeah that's ok. just keep talking. also check your list of prophecy, just in case you have the quest but missed it somehow.
plain rain
its sad that its not accessible at all even though they already made that area
Right? It seems like it wouldn’t be a lot of extra work just to make it accessible again :/
hollow hawk
i think their mentality behind keeping greece locked up after the ending was to make it precious. It wouldn't be as valuable if it was common to just go there every run you clear
or atleast thats how i cope with not having the beautifully sunset available again :(
crude surge
I remember seeing a meme that said.
When you find out their isn’t a mini stardew valley in Persephones garden after the credits
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
signal otter
The only cure is starting new saves
I finally started a second save after basically running out of things I want to do in my first
craggy barn
did i miss the iliad project stream
wooden sorrel
Hi, before buying Hades I wanted to know if there are any plans or rumors to release the game on iPadOS or iOS? If I buy the game on steam and play it on a mac - would the game saves be compatible with a theoretical future iOS version?
brisk trail
I havent heard of an ios version being in the works
wooden sorrel
@brisk trail thank you / danke
brisk trail
np
robust scaffold
yay all achievements done
hollow hawk
did i miss the iliad project stream
yes :( same as me
craggy barn
eternal marlin
well Vod is there to watch for everyone
manic bobcat
Hi, before buying Hades I wanted to know if there are any plans or rumors to rel...
There is no Hades on mobile announcement.
BUT, Hades is announced for Xbox Game Pass. This means that you can probably play Hades on mobile via cloud streaming services.
If Xbox Game Pass steaming works for iOS or iPadOS, you can play Hades on those (with work around).
pulsar ridge
9 more clears and you finish the main story
then you've got the epilogue
and also probably still a bunch of side stuff left
calm pelican
now whats heroic rarity
robust scaffold
its just a rarity higher than epic
hollow hawk
You can only get it if eurydice in asphodel upgrades one of your already epic boons, Rare Crop from demeter hits a boon, or if you get a replacement from another god for an already epic boon
calm pelican
i got hearts for charon to max and i got this chibi charon under his keepsake
what does it do
signal aspen
nothing
once you max hearts with a character you get their bond
and they dont do anything
stoic flame
finally reached the prologue
spent all this time makiing this dope ass build with lucifer only to just ||leave without a fight||
signal aspen
nice
stoic flame
also wtf were u saying
gilga is great
once u get aphro stuff the maim extra damage thing doesnt even make a difference
signal aspen
the explosion from the maim takes way too long to activate
and it makes you take extra damage for some reason
stoic flame
yeah okay maim is cringe bu ti like the main attack
signal aspen
bruh
brisk trail
its largley considered one of the worst weapons alongside zag sword
stoic flame
u can just stand and just hold the attack
brisk trail
but that doesnt stop it from being fun for someone
signal aspen
yeah sure
manic bobcat
but that doesnt stop it from being fun for someone
but this doesn't stop me from making fun of it
brisk trail
same
signal aspen
nice
stoic flame
😔
brisk trail
you can just stand there but that means you're gonna get hit a lot
stoic flame
dodge gang
signal aspen
gilga is great for building god gauge tho
stoic flame
my fav fists are still zag fists
manic bobcat
My favorite fists is Flurry Zag Bow.
signal aspen
same
stoic flame
faxx
manic bobcat
My favorite bow, of course, is Hestia.
signal aspen
my favorite bow is charged skewer guan yu
narrow hemlock
but this doesn't stop me from making fun of it
leave my poor lil meow meow alone, gilg fists is trying its best 
peak orbit
OKAY
So now I'm having a hard time
I tried to jump straight into 16 heat and I am always stuck on dad
signal aspen
whats the highest heat you've done?
stoic flame
try not jumping straight to 16 heat
peak orbit
13
signal aspen
bruh
robust scaffold
lmao
lunar orchid
robust scaffold
EM4