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Level 2 Splitting Bolt
a zeus boon
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help
what
im forced to take a zeus boon
you can level up splitting..
you can't haha. it was a bug i found. it was fixed at release though
so rip
poseidon is insane with zeus
absolutely insane
if you get artemis poseidon and zeus in one run youve seen it all
fun fact: zeus special/attack has a cd but sea storm doesn't
use this knowledge well
only the special
add dionysis and its complete
for zeus
attack also has a bit of an cd
very short but it exists
which gets in the way for lucifer and like only lucifer
fair enough
nice
Just had my first run with triple arrow thingy and explosive arrows
damn this was fun
I didn't enjoy the bow much but that upgrade was nice
finally unlocked all weapons now, the final reload gun thingy seems to do low dmg on it
will have to do a run with it
the damage from the rail is really good
when will I unlock the ability to use all these diamonds and blood thingies
I've not been able to get any now, just get darkness from bosses
; . ;
if I use weapons I previously beat them with
for blood you have to unlock all the weapons
and after that you will unlock weapon aspects
and weapon aspects need blood
and for diamonds you can use them for work orders from the house contractor
i dont fish anymore
you can use it everywhere
you can fish in tartarus, asphodel, elysium, styx, surface, and chaos
o.O
I thought I beat hades within 10 runs when I got him down for the first time
Soon realised that well he is my father and he can do tricks like me as well
; . ;
haha yeah...same
Ok now I was happy that I was facing meg
these other fate sisters are kinda cracked

the hardest is the one who doesn't know how to speak
anyways hades gets harder with that one trap heat thing
cause taking 100 damage from the pots
yeah
is scary
hs is really bad
e
its not worth the 1 heat
one trap heat ?
post hades stuff
yup
Oh
btw
here you can get spoiled
^
yeah
Oh
if you didnt beat the Hades yet
spoilers are allowed in here
yup
go to #h1-for-new-players
spoilers are allowed everywhere but here
I see
so yeah
anyways double approval process makes it feel like every good boon is a blessing from the lord
when you get a duo/legendary with double ap
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are you by any chance using stubborn defiance?
yes
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yeah you need to git gud
tbh
no
I thought it'd be better than DD, turns out not so much
i
git gud
LOL
u died to the WAVE
how..
understandable, have a good day
:D
yes
Did Nyx just fired Dusa?
yes
I just made the Night and Darkness achievement
Thats what I call an ungrateful situation, Nyx
except for gilgamesh
whenever i try to make a specefic build i just dont get boons
gilgamesh is actually bad
like any boons at all
Really?
gilgamesh is risk vs reward
just the currencies and stuff
I liked Gilgamesh ngl
Gilgamesh is risk vs less reward than any other fists aspect
lmao
a lot worse than pp man
UHH NO
no
in return for taking more damage
its way too slow and clunky
Also. Im one achievement away from 100%. I just have to max every keepsake
gilgamesh is so slow and clunky
and the doom effect from maim takes way too long to activate
and the damage buff from it is super low
it's not that slow..
and gilgs is being bad
the attack is too slow so enemies can easily hit you
it is not an all rounder
it 100% is
the only thing it has going for it is the extra dashes
which is ruined by the terrible dash attack
extra dashes that are shortened for some reason
and doesn't have the stun lock combo that makes the fits so good
but for WHY
BECAUSE IT WASN'T BAD ENOUGH?
talos focuses on: cast and attack
demeter: special
zag: all rounder but no risk
gilga: all rounder but risk
yeah
what
gilga may be the worst fists
yeah
but it's still better then rama
no
and zag spear
whats a good build for excalibur
attack build
artemis attack, aphro dash, heartrend
alright
get your attack to hit like a truck
rama is way better than gilgamesh
lol no
rama great wdym

how is rama bad
itt people calling things bad because they don't know how o use them
slow attack speed (like really slow)
just use your dash attack
you can't even mitigate the slowness in ANY WAY
just use attack like special and special like attack
I spam dash attack with bow it's just s l o w
exept for when I say its bad because I know everything π€ π€ π€
thats how i play it
but the damage from rama is insane
im here so im included
oh yeah it's good with triple shot
though i don't think i called anything bad
you need to use shared suffering to make rama work well
twin shot is the next best thing
the worst thing i called is "mediocre" for rolling knuckle
twin shot/triple shot with point blank shot can get you insane damage
anyways charged volley is one of if not the worst hammer
since anything you'd want charge volley with can't get it
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nah theres worse
what is worse
like heavy knuckle on fists
everything has a use
^ also has a use
whats it good for
all of them can do good
cursed slash hoarding slash :)
world splitter got the good base damage
sniper shot on bow
decent damage boost
but it's still better then charged volley
cause it CAN do something
to help your dps
i guess
just use the sword dash strike combo
wait wrong message
i tried to reply to this
dash nova isnt that good
chain skewer is, fine
everytime i unlock a new weapon im like "yeah this my fav"
the chad dash kick vs the virgin dash nova
flaring spin is also fine
maybe that's not true
how can the devs design all the weapons to be so fun?
nah
eternal chamber isnt that good
draining cutter isnt that good
rolling knuckle isnt that good
rush kick isnt good
quake cutter isnt good
colossus knuckle isnt good
e
and rending claws is bad because it is gilgamesh exclusive
I mean anything out of the "meta" is sub optimal
you're just REALLY used to canceling it
its not as good as the others
but this for fun just use whatever you want
it's got hella good damage
why use normal upper when you can use dash upper
or on high enough heat not like AP2 gives you any choice anyway
it's not bad doe
i guess
since the base damage is 30 x2
and now it's 40x2
with homing SPEED
it's also faster too
explosive upper literally doubles your dash upper damage
true
explosive upper is always better
unless.. you are using special just to proc something
yeah
or you wanna have more fun
It only doubles your Dash-Upper damage if you've taken no other boons or upgrades.
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Poseidon marry me pls
It seems less detailed than the rest of his body
Probably wasn't a design priority since it'd be out of view
Im sad. tried searching for a hammer/axe mod (slow melee with chonky damage) and theres just nothing
modding an entire new weapon into the game seems extremely difficuly, but the swords hidden aspect sounds like what youre looking for
ah. might be. somehow havent gotten the dialogue for that yet
with how long the games been out and modding has been a thing (from what I can tell) Im just surprised theres no weapons modded in yet like at all
maybe ur right and its just way too hard
There is a weapon mod
On nexusmods
of like nunchuks or something i think. But idk if it even functions lol i just saw the thumbnail of it a while ago
omg i have 6 casts with heroic artemis and the aspect of gimme my casts back sword
mrrrddrrr
i have epic exit wounds
with the sword that gives your casts back
its a beast combo
honestly its a fast and more crazy combo than anything with the rail or anything else
185 cast x6 with artemis and high chance for crit and 180 exit wounds x6
thats wild
i took half of hades in one volly
nice
Who gives exit wounds?
artemis
ok apparently the nexus doesnt let u search for words in the description? yikes
yeah you want it epic and level it up as high as you can
its basically two hits in one
omg i just died
lol
he had like 10percent
i got distracted
F
F
question.
no
ok
:D
lol
whats your question
how much stronger would hades be if he didnt use spear. the worst weapon in the videogame
i dont think he would be stronger if he used a different weapon
idk man. I think if hades used rail or shield Id be done for for a while
o if hades did
i like the image of hades holding a gun lol
lol exactly
well he trained with his spear for a while
or imagine he just pummels u with knuckles monkaS
what if he just walked up and slapped you with a sandal
I mean I get why he use spear for story related reasons. just saying I thought itd be funny if he used something that wasnt the literal worst
He has 6 different variations 
if only
What if he could use another wepon for ||last phase of EM4||
I mean I havent played the harder hades fight or w/e but variation is cool
ah yis. just got point blank, explosive shot and triple shot all while using the hidden aspect bow
so now it charges slow af
400 damage uncharged on hades and then got wombo combo'd
Whatβs the best spear aspect?
all except zag are pretty good
Dude Iβm so excited that this game is coming to Xbox
I have it pre installed and everything
I canβt wait

SNOM
the spear is great
Same
I personally like Hades aspect the best, the damage buff on spin is nice especially if you get Big Spin or fast charge hammer upgrades
Speak of the devil, I bought aspect of hades and instantly got a run where I got both big spin and fast charge...
I could charge for half a second and cover the entire screen with an attack which did 200
That's how I got my first clear
Iβve never had so much fun
poseidon hates me and zeus gave me a 3 volt battery
I was connecting with spins behind the pillars in the final fight
You need Daedalus hammer upgrades to make it charge quicker
Fast Charge Daedalus Hammer upgrade is what you're after
keep it to spend on story stuff and advanced upgrades
oh ok
that sounds so rng though
and once i kill meg i can keep on using the weapon that i used to kill her rightΒΏ
yeah you can't change weapon during a run
nono
You can unlock music tracks for them later on, as well as trade them for I want to say Ambrosia from the guy in the lounge
i mean when i get home
cause skelly said that i need to use another weapon in order to get more elder blood
or smth like that
oh yeah you can, but the reward gets changed to darkness
oh alright thank you
and if i use a different weapon i get blood?
yeah once per weapon
To get blood with the same weapon, you need to fully clear a run first
You can unlock bounties for them later on after your first clear, I think
Once you unlock all the weapons you can spend blood to make them stronger
The blood is to upgrade the weapons and their aspects
yeah once you finish a full clear, the extra reward system sort of explains itself
Welcome! Such a good game
oh ok
tbh its amazing
and ive played like 2 hours
and i can say its awesome
the characters,combat everything
YMMV but you might want to stick with one weapon and learn it well before using another
And you made it past the Hydra, nice!
Extra darkness is more useful than blood in early game
i almost gave up when i was fighting meg but then poseidon gave me a crazy dash power and i beat her very easily
Yeah those mirror upgrades are great stat increases
ill keep that in mind
ty
Athena Dash is best dash for sure
Reflect projectiles on dashes makes the game ez mode
It's usually my first boon every run
athena dash for if you hate projectiles, tidal dash for sheer damage and also getting enemies out of your face
at some point projectiles become a lot less of a problem
It's habit for me at this point, I'll admit. I've dashed into so many projectiles without Divine Dash lol
i just got sucked in the floor for 25 of my health
wha
who is this guy and why are his upgrades so bad
oh, did a green pot explode in front of you?
thats chaos, and their boons are actually quite good, if you can live through the curses
oh i misunderstood hehe
chaos boons can seem underwhelming but they're unique and they have nice synergies
like, once you have an attack boon you can't really increase your attack damage significantly, except for with chaos
I find chaos boon quite fun bc they make you change fighting style on the fly
for chaos boons, I first check to see if there's any boons that would do anything for my build at all, and of those I pick the one with the least bad downside
Yeah I always end up getting the movement speed curses just before mini bosses and get rekt lol
*flashbacks to all the times I took chaos too late and fought furies with nerfed dash
though one time that was with Achilles Spear so rofl
Lotta times I'll take the ones that damage on specials or casts, if their bonuses after are good. Just gotta remember to not special or cast though lol
ohh the dash curses are the WORST
@cold tiger also i saw you are new to the game i advise you stay in #h1-for-new-players because in the other channels you might get spoiled, in this channel there's a special anti spoil rule
Oh didn't realize or think of that
yeah me too
thats why i tell it to new people
so they dont get spoiled into infinity
hi people, anyone know how i can find an enemy with the burner perk? got 2 pact of punishment points into it, but cant find one?
that seems like the one that everyone gets stuck on
burner only appears in asphodel iirc
yh thats all the information I have /:
keep going I guess, you'll find one eventually
I see
Ooh it that for the fated list? I never seemed to need to seek out specific enemies, weird
Yeah it's a prophecy that needs you to find enemies with a specific buff
yup thats the one
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What's the trigger to unlock the uh...room with bunch of shades doing paperwork
I'm halfway through the story on hellmode and still haven't gotten the prompt for it
If Iβm not wrong, you need to buy the key at the thingy right to hades, where you do the remodulation, forgot the name π
Oh I mean the trigger to open up that option in the first place
i literally got the worst tunnel rng ever
i was in the second last tunnel with no bag and then tiny vermin decides to show up when im at 30hp
5 sack 
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practice rng 

Guys do you think that I should get hades because it looks really fun
i just noticed hades store page on steam still has screenshots from pre-launch
like an outdated patroclus 3d model / chaos boon symbol
yeahh i agree its super fun and so easy to get hooked!! the story/art/gameplay/music/ everything is perfect imo, i highly recommend it :D
Thank you
that's the charm of roguelites
i love games that make replayability its core identity
Is there any way to make Orpheus sing that song called Good Riddance? the song that Eurydice sings, and the song "Lament of Orpheus"?
idk if I should mark it with spoiler
please let me know
For good riddance you might need to get the score from Eurydice which may or may not involve giving her (or both of them) enough nectar, but you definitely need to talk with them a decent amount
I have a rule that whenever Orpheus sings good riddance I have to stay and harmonize with him for the entire song :)
ohh I have heard Orpheus sing one time Good Riddance but not anymore, anyways I neet to talk them a little bit more to complete the entry
I love seeing Orpheus singing, is like another person
Can confirm music helps the mood
those 2 songs are half the reason why I bought this game
also I figured out that the VA of Zagreus is the one singing Good Riddance
I bought the game with no clue of what it was, I just saw it was nominated or something for GOTY and bought it, but I kept playing it because of Orpheus character improvement
He being happy it's just
amazing
In my regular file I maxed him and Eurydice before anyone else lol
lmao I'll do that rn
You can trade them at the broker for nectar
ooooo nice
Alrighty
I have 3 revives, 213 hp and a good build
time to clear the game for the first time >: )
Good luck!!
Ooo
After that, winning more times doesn't progress the story whatsoever I don't think
.< Is there any ending cutscene or epilogue
But you've still got the epilogue and side stuff to do
Oh nice
I managed to get a doom boon on my basic attack to level 4 then got the attack bounce upgrade from hammer boy
Carried me throughout
I feel like if I attack my fellow shopkeeper too many times, he might retaliate 
You're fine, just don't "borrow" from him 
Is it possible to defeat Theseus before the Minotaur, has anyone done it 
ive done it many times
mainly during speedruns
because i just try to kill them as fast as possible
and theseus has less health
so sometimes he will die first


glad you understood
is daedalus a time traveler from the future?/j
oh shoot
i forgot
i have to spend my things
to make the game prettier
i always forget
well he has made the chariot thing that theseus rides in
yeah
just like how zag has a gun
in mythology he's just a guy who loves doing maze
he knows how to make guns if he upgraded the chariot
since*
ik he's not a timetraveler in actual mythology but in the game
tbh i didnt even know that daedalus made the chariot
the chariot?
the chariot in em3
heat
yea achilles mentions that he made the chariot
oh cool
i mean its basically a reflavoured "shh its magic it makes sense"
yea
just slap it on to everything
its just the pact of punishment
that apollo/helios rides
F
yeah
you should take it if you have a lot of gem stones
if you have nothing to do with your gem stones
more blood is always good
i currently have... 14.
blood for the blood god
i have 14 blood
i have 63 blood
soon i'll get the cheese
holy sh- 63?
just need 5 more
yeah
6 more
i'm new to this game, where else do you get blood?
my bad
yeah
you can get blood from the first and last boss
and you can trade for it
win win win win
i knew someone would say that eventually
the objective of the game is to win
what is the canonical motivation for zag to keep doing the escape over and over
just cuz he feels like it?
i guess
later in the game he finds out that ||nyx isnt his mom so he tries to get to the surface to find his real mom||
tbh i forgot most of the story
yeah i've gotten that far
i played the game for 10 hours straight yesterday
this is hades discussion
you can spoil at will
we arent in #h1-for-new-players
well i dont know how far they are in the game
and i dont want to spoil the game for them
if they didnt wanted to get spoiled they should have stayed in #h1-for-new-players :dies:
but seriously
yes
i get what you mean
just saying being here and expecting to not get spoiled is a bet
mainly at the start he's just doing it cuz he feels like he doesn't belong there
also dad annoying
god i love the entire cast of this game
To find his Mom. There is a flashback sequence explaining that.
we already explained it
yeah, but what about post game?
Oh ok
That's explained, too. But it's spoiler, unless you want that, too.
Did you get it on Epic?
yessir
I beat the game for the first time today
total 12 runs so far into the game, felt I had it much easier than most people

nice
i dare you
now make the game harder
Definitely
yeah
I guess most noobs here like me is doing it with God Mode even
lmao only 10? amature
i think its a good thing to add this mode for people who physically cant beat the game due to a condition. its really nice to see devs think about things like this
Lol the first run I did with the gun weapon I managed to beat the game
nice
praise the lord for getting the auto-attack doom boon and the RNG of it getting buffed everytime
Gun is strong, probably the strongest so far for most people. Of course it depends on play style and βevery weapon can be goodβ, but gun is really good to be fair
I thought it would be quite weak, considering the damage numbers on the basic attack
and the reload mechanic
somehow i won 2 runs with the gun even tho i hate it
i hate using the gun but i always do good with it
I've enjoyed the spear and fists, though I'm not very good with them
Me happy with fists
Enters room with witch coven who unleash 5 million orbs at me
pain
you dont need divine dash
with fist its a must have
just git gud
Need to become good at dodging
Idk I could just hold bull rush and all attacks will just deflect
The gist with every melee weapon, you have to get close to hit
No need to move
you know your dash is fully invincible
Yeah
Itβs what on the mind of less experienced players
little wagon crash on the walls if you dash enough
Of course, the right way to play with shield is bull rush your way to winning π
just dash through something
Yeah I realised I can dash straight through walls
you
you
thats a good think to know
I figured it out after my first encounter with theseus
with the minotaur chasing me
yesyes
you can dash in the bull
if you have 2 dash
you can keep going
cant hit you
just kill him
tru
haha
just have enough bonus so your backtstab do 1000000%
ooo
nice
i like both of them
great guy
theseus is cool
bull man is cool
Is there a different boss in arena 3 other than the 2
theseus is dumb
no
well technically there are 3
Well technically if you count variations of Theseus calls
and there is also the em3 versions
You have as many variations as there are gods
Though that's being generous in term of counting
lol
ares and aphrodite are pretty much the same
Yeah I'm being half facetious
Be me
Gifts charon nectar 4-5 times
Always get hmmmm ghhshhmmm rhhmmm as a response
Profit
give him more
nice
Eventually you get to this dialogue
Zag: Can you say anything else?
Karen: Yes.
Zag: What??!
Karen: And no one will ever believe you.
Karen
reminds me of this
Exactly where i stole it from
also you get the same dialogue with Lernie
good job
what's the test branch?
its a branch you test on
just noticed it in my epic library
you test
thank you, all my questions have been answered sufficiently
yes
i will now leave and do nothing in particular
π
read #test-branch-readme
It's a relic from Early Access. Don't worry about it.
i dont even know what to do
play hades
ig beat Hades over and over
Play a new game
start a new save file
fun
Beat the game dash only
beat the game without attacking
attack the game
study while playing hades
then study
why
fun
why did you do that
fun
it doesnt sound fun
but it actually is fun
to fail your finals?
no to play hades
both
hades is a fun game
i thought you didnt like it
no its fun
nah
dont tempt me
what if
you there was a weapon aspect
for every NPC
take less damage
or
its a shield aspect
and when you do the bul charge
you cant get hit at all
you become a boulder
thats like
not just the front
ok
im telling you
he gives the best advice
yeah but like hes cool
its funny cause its like that in game too
he is inneficient
and sleeps all the time
but for some reason
Hades lets him be there
because hypnos is cool
do you think hypnos could beat zag
easily
easily
he just puts everything to sleep 2 op
Do you think Hypnos could beat Meg?
easily
Damn, and I thought he had something going on with Meg lmao
aspect of Hypnos when
next update
yup
holy
i love this game
i saw something unusual
and now i have a quest for something to beat on heat 8
nice
i could have easily missed it
lmao i managed to get a new fastest time with excalibur
nice
is there something i need to do to achieve the epilogue? anyone know
you need to get past the end credit
then you will receive the assignment for the epilogue
check your prophecy list?
you need to talk to every god at least once to invite them to a party
yh i literally just did that, i guess im close then
yeah. i think there is a checklist in the prophecy, too
at least that's how i remember it
hmm, ill have a look after my run, cheers
yeah you need to talk to every Olympian
eugh... xD
And I got all 8 across 2 runs (4+4)
ill do dat then, im just trying to fget given the prophecy, i havent got it yet
bc I like yelling at the last boss
nice
oh yeah 100% damage and 12 reflection ( :
grinding these level 3 charms when they have 1 - 5 rooms
Mmmm
got 2 left, been grinding my buttocks off
oh and does anybody know how to consistantly find thanatos? hes literally never at the house i got him on 3 or 4 hearts after 90 hours
nice
which should i take
poison ennemy get crit more
or
all the boons are superior quality
im at the 3rd floor
so i dont really know
well
well
chaos shield?
