#h1-discussion
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no swearing on my christian.. wait
makes sence
heck im a kid
It’s in the rules
not used to it
Didn’t you read them?
It’s literally called “read me first”
running around with the shield following you and killing stuff is quite fun actually
alright that's it
I'm sick of this game
just give me the most broken weapon/boon combination
so I can kill hades and be done with it
get all athena's deflects
athena keepstake
how i got my first win
you just mash buttons and block everything
I swear 2 of my deaths on hades were mid dodge
at this point it feels like I'm playing ds2
Can I backup my save?
And then revert back to it?
I wanna try something that I'm not sure about.
I don't think you can
wow...
giving up makes it so everything you earned during that run is nul
that's kinda dumb
shoudl've just killed myself then
Giving up sends you back to the last time you saved in the house of hades
So you go back in time
You can just kill yourself
The amount of dialogue in this game is just unreal
Yeah there are a lot of words
AND its all voiced
I keep doing new things and hearing new lines, I keep thinking I have to start hearing lines get repeated, but nope, almost never
too much
you can "cheat" win streak that way
not that you should or that win streak is that meaningful in the game
imagine winning
that said at least the game doesn't record lose streak lmao
unlike isaac
which shamed me back in the days for a 96 lose streak
Good job
it was a dark time 
Trying to beat Delirium as The Lost?
nope, just good old normal isaac lol
don't ask why, i was just super tilted for that entire lose streak lmao
by normal i mean hard mode, but playing "normally"
anyway, Hades
Hades good
is it though

Mostly yes
You can use them to trade for nectar and for a theme
yeah that\s what I was gonna do
does any of the decorations have practical uses?
honestly it's quite random to have in this game
No
Well you can buy fountains and when you interact with them they tell you how many fountains you've used
And you can buy a sundial that always says it's 7:48
But that's it
Everything else is useless
Except for the lounge upgrades
adds more replay value
They help you get dusas bond
*required to get Dusas bond
Yes
I honestly wouldn't mind dying to the garbage hades fight if the bosses weren't so underwhelming
game would've been an easy 10/10 if it had more than 4 bosses
that you kill over and over and over
it has 7 bosses
5
hydra, 3 sisters, bull and chad, hades and ||charon||
Oh
oh yeah
Yeah
Forgot about the sisters
well he sure acts like it
charon?
Yes
I forgot his name lol
HOW IS THESEUS A CHAD
Call him an idiot
HE IS TRASH
is charron /s or fr?
He is the true trash god
He's a boss
theseus aint a god
Wait tiny vermin is technically a boss
He is the god of trash
Vermin is a miniboss
He has the boss health bar so he a boss
hydra's 3 forms and the 3 sisters aren't six bosses lol, they're 2 bosses with 2 reskins each
The sisters are diferent people
with diferent names
Meg, tis, alecto, hydra, Theseus, asterius, hades, charon
and more than one unique attack
They all have different attack patterns
and arenas
theseus can barely be considered a boss on his own
Ok
You can say the same for Meg :P
at least she does something
theseus has 2 whole attacks
slow ass attacks
and the rest is just the gods throwing easy to dodge s-.....tuff at you
a boss being easy doesn't not make him a boss
^
Yup
.
game is 10/10
an optional boss is still a boss 
duiscussion over
Yay
not if you never fight him
I mean you legit have no reason to
other than for the sake of it
wait
i was saying "sure" to go into another sentence, I still consider the sisters just reskins
He gives you a discount to his shop for the rest of the run
And some money
And a steam achievement
what is lastest game version?
Idk
can someone check pls
2 roguelikes I've played before(among others) are lost castle and EtG, the former having around 10+ bosses, and the latter having over 15
so coming into here and fighting the same ones 15 times
yeah
If you're wondering why the wiki says 10% but the game says 8% it has nothing to do with the updates
Having the bosses switch out wouldn't make sense in the story
why not? there are supposedly tons of heroes in elisium
why not have multiple of them available to fight?
Because its specifically those two that are special
The furies make sense because there are canonically three
the whole point is that duo is the best of the best
I mean the furies sure I can see that
yeah, no other fighter can cover half the arena in one swing
No other person can be that salty
league players in elysium
I mean if you count EM variations and minibosses, there are some variety in term of bossfights.
minibosses in this game are literally just buffed normal enemeis
gorgon,witches,bombers...?
i mean many enemies in isaac are the same, just with different move sets
what's your point
never played isaac
the gemstone thing, the teleporting thing that throws stuff at you, Asterius, Tiny Vermin
people really hype up tiny vermin but is it that much harder than other styx minibosses
No but its a meanie
WeLL It's JuST BuffED up RaTs, bEAMS stonES, and WitcHES
theeere it is
depending on my build I'd much rather see tiny vermin than biggest snakestone
I do agree about the game lacking abit of content
an extra stage in olympus would be sick
I would agree on the biome basis
Snake stone loses half of its health to Meg
I might just start timing how long it takes for people to lose their composure each time I say something negative in a games discord lmaooo
Maybe its a you problem not a everyone else problem 
I'm saying how I feel about the game and I'm not surprised that's the point lol
I might just count how many times people post provocative opinions on Discord because le funny to see people's reactions.
it's not my fault my opinions are 'provocative' 🤷♂️
wait this is the same person who think that hades is a sponge because they couldn't kill him on the 10th run
it'd be even better than
people going ham on me in the dark souls discord was amazing
don't think I've seen that many swear words in one place before
anyway, Extreme Measures variations does change the bosses around abit, especially the latter two.
and I count minibosses as bosses so ¯_(ツ)_/¯ to me Hades has enough variations in term of bosses
i do agree that in term of biomes or "secret" zones, the game is lacking compared to some other roguelites.
I mean I'd still recommend hades to anyone who likes roguelites
best character interaction I've seen so far, most varied build options, tons of replayability
I really dont think theres that many builds
well not that
but the boons are all the same just with each god's ability
there are like 8 gods with 10 boons each
Yeah but there are a lot of ways to combine the boons
What
you know, i kinda agree somewhat, but the thing is we have 24 aspects, each with mostly different one or two builds each. so even if you succumb to the meta builds, you still have some variety
and i guess hades lets you reroll and manip rng more than others
so you miss out on the accidentally great synergies like in isaac. on the flip side, it saves you the pain of going through a no damage bad rng run
the game is honestly pretty damn well made, the 2 things that keep me from enjoying it as much as I could are asterius and hades' healthbar(IMO to emphasize)
I think that's how a roguelike should be tho
having played a decent amount of isaac, i just want to end myself if I get 0 damage item by mom tbh
haven't played much isaac yet
my fave roguelike has to be risk of rain 2
its quite similar in terms of items
to isaac
I have complaints about this game but it's still a couple universes better than nuclear throne lmao
i really tried to get into nt but i couldn't
if anything, hades just controls better
nt is by far the worst game I have ever played
speaking of which, i think hades does well in term of control.
whats wrong with nt
everything
never played it just wondering
The controls for hades are pretty good
the control to me is a bit clunky, and you can get one shotted easily later on on environmental hazard
also, the game is just dark, like, literally, it's just dark, some area I couldn't see crap.
the camera is also too close to the character imo, so you can't see the overall battlefield, which to me is kinda problematic for a bullet hell game.
everything kills you in 2/3 hits, you are constantly fighting in a shoebox, last stage is literally insta kill plasma ball spam with teleporting enemies-essentially game throws you into a bullet hell with a hitbox 3x larger than the gaps between the shots
if you can get it for like super cheap, you can check it out still
i got it from the BLM bundle
anyway, hades
ic
well I maxed the aspect of zag on the bow
we'll see how my next run goes
tmrw that is
try to dash strike a lot
it looks like normal strike but it charges faster
it's just rather dissapointing that usually when I dislike something about a game it's desregarded as mad cuz bad
It would probably help if you didn't sound so angry
i mean, you went in here calling the champions and hades bullet sponge while not knowing how to better optimize your runs
how do I sound angry though?
it strikes me as... callous i guess
a brand new word I don't know! lemme look this up
you literally say that Hades or something like that has bs health bar
and went on a tiny rant about how the hp bar in the game is inflated
while being on 10th run and not knowing that much about optimization
just my 2 cent on where things went wrong
maybe we started off on the wrong foot
well the health difference between bosses and mobs is huge in this game
way more than most roguelikes
hey I got nothing against y'all
be angry with me as much as you like
or you could consider that an invitation to start over?
start over how?
by stop saying things like this or that is bs, or that the game doesn't have boss variations (i honestly dont think you know about EM yet)
as for me, I can stop being passive aggressive or overtly sarcastic
now if you have seen everything in the game and have an "informed" opinion on it and still think the same then erm all the power to you. we can agree to disagree i guess
being new to a game and not liking it, then blaming it on the game is hella annoying
might not wanna do that
if you're saying the game is bad yeah I agree but I never said that
just to make sure, what heat do I have to beat to be informed?
once I get tired of dying to hades and look up "how to optimize builds" I'll try out heat
just seeing stuff like EM and the pact in general (post Hades), know some synergies to make Hades a joke, seeing some aspects
just like play the game more I suppose
all of which aren't that in depth, trust me
i don't know anything about the modifiers or how they work though, so I'm looking forward to seeing if it's touhou hard/lunatic type of hard or EtG challenge mode type of hard
the latter being very unwelcome
I won't stray off topic again, I'll just say that I'm tempted to try lunatic on EoSD since I've gotten a hard 1cc already
sheesh
it's neither i think. you will see. i think the pact is one of the most brilliant mechanics done in recent years.
that is quite the claim
of course i speak as a Hades fan, but i do think it's a smart way to adjust difficulty
SGG have been doing that sort of difficulty since bastion
yeah fair
personalized difficulty is cool
More things like the pact need to exist in games tbh
what is the pact exactly?
it's how you choose your heat
that doesn't help lmao
The pact has heat modifiers that make your runs harder
Its also where you choose your heat
oh so the pact is just the name of the heat system?
you were making it sound so complicated
So basically the pact has some buttons that add heat and also make enemies and bosses hurt more
so basically the last few genshin boss events
Uh
alright then I'm familiar with the system
Yes
How does delta chamber work with aspect of hestia
Seeking fire bad
What's the third hammer?
Spread fire
that’s wack
The normal bullets also act weird imo
how often are the updates in here? 
not that often anymore. it's just bug fixes from now
the devs said they were happy with the game
noice
Okay, I just have a quick question about the dialogue.
Sometimes: I see a character with the "!" over their head and I can gift them something.
I talk to them, the option to give a gift goes away.
Or
I give a gift, but then I can't talk to them anymore and miss out on new dialogue...
Is this intentional or something?
no that's normal. ! means something happened, but it doesn't always involve gifting
good sign still
from what i can remember, this only happens with dusa
she's too skittish to recieve a gift and have a conversation
Yeah, I know.
But why I can't I talk and give them a gift afterwards.
Dusa flies away.
The option just doesn't appear anymore with Meg.
It's not that big a deal, I just hope it doesn't affect story progress when I choose Gift over the Talk option.
eh generally you won't miss much
if it's important then the (!) is all jagged and you can't gift
My sister as she watches me play Hades and give everyone I love nectar: Are you bribing people?
Me, sweating: M-Maybe
you’re just turning in contraband 
^
It’s kinda weird how Zagreus gets nectar as a chamber reward though
Doesn’t Hades decide the chamber rewards? Or is it all random for the rewards, and Daedalus just changes up the actual structure of the underworld
If Hades chose them why would Zag get anything good
They're just resources scattered across the depths of the underworld
Ithink chaos decides them if anything
you're collecting smuggled goods
how
oh
and then i threw a second one
that might be why
I Wish there was a Daedalus upgrade that made it that you can throw two shields
That would slay with the zues shield
that would be too busted tbh
yeah
if they added that into the game they would restrict it when you are using chaos or zeus shield
maybe not chaos
but definitely zeus
Has there been any talks of big content patches coming soon?
no
the devs are taking a break
and hades is a very complete game so they probably wont add anything new to it
Thats omega sad, so much potential for new content
But thats just an assumption i guess, so we can keep hoping
The lounge is now fully equipped
My hell mode file progress is eerily parallel to my first regular file's back then
Second-try Meg, second-try Hydra, switched to bow and got all the way to die at the last boss
is this ok for my first 8heat run? http://i.prntscr.com/X5DVDx_uTEOZ_IIYph4B6g.png
any recommendations?
take off cf and use em2
DC isnt that good depending on ur aspect
also how fast are your runs normally?
also JS slows u down depending on aspect too
pretty fast
no, thanks xD
I wouldnt use it for heat under 10

it's easy cuz all they do is spawn faster and move & attack but if you kill them as they spawn then no biggie
heh
just dont get hit
its good to try it early so u get used to it
it's one of the easiest heats now I've gotten used to it
I can barely play without it cuz everything is so sloooooow
ikr
How going fast really be
yeah
shut
If I have a dollar for every 4head advice this server gives
slow people smh
I would be able to fund Hades 2
yea
thats a lot of money
Watch it
it can probably fund hades 2

I play dash-only faster than you do 32 heat 
cuz I'm a slow player
Anyhow, what are people up to
but at least I don't step on traps all the time
Dash only 32?
both of you are bad, end of discussion
yes
i went FO

HAHA

sorry :((
DO NOT HECKING SWEAR
D:
you foul mouth rat ass
FO fun
xDD
Imagine FO5

There must be a mod for it
laughs in pcmr







Why not now
arm hurts so
Is it the vaccine? Cause I'm also dying from it.
imagine using your arms to play hades
kinda?
more that I slept at it at a weird angle cuz it hurt from the vaccine 
will prolly be fine by tonight or tomorrow 
Actually dashless run would be more difficult than dash only run
Now that I think of it
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wow
Tfw Charge Shot F tier
http://i.prntscr.com/HiZoy8WSRd2nb0-1t8GtcA.png what is this D:
i think i did some on the mirror and that appeared
it's a fated dice
it's either a fated dice of persuasion or of the other one
persuasion will allow you to reroll boons offered, well items offered & boons in the pool of purging
authority is the one i have
the other one - authority? - will allow you to reroll rewards offered
so, if you see a god on a door you can reroll to a different one
you can reroll the door rewards before you enter them
persuasion is the better one imo
You can also reroll rewards that aren’t boons, like darkness and keys, but you can’t reroll those into boons
ye, I just didn't type them all out & changed it to door rewards instead 
unless you get the key upgrade from contractor you can't get more dice then the ones from the mirror upgrade afaik
that's a D20
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png
Here is a nifty room reward guide so you know what rerolls into what
http://i.prntscr.com/SYoR3wu8Q9CIKqq68ydPuw.png aight, i think i just won the run
Nice
thanks 
Demeter is busted
i love it
ye
I enjoy her cast a lot
Speaking of duo boons, how odd is to get 5 of them in the same run? 
on higher heat it's kinda bad, actually if you are enjoying it, that's great.
not that bad tbh, probably takes some planning and luck, but getting 5 of any kind isn't that bad
its possible to get 8 duos in one run

That's pretty good
nice
whats with hidden aspects and slow heavy attacks
I had 5 duos & 2 legendaries some runs ago
istg every bsingle hidden aspect
fun run
is just heavy attack
I think I literally cancelled 1 of the duos out by taking another 
lucifer isnt slow
dont you wish there is a victory lap mode in the game?
sometimes yes
I got sea storm, but my only poseidon boon was my flood shot, and then I got curse of drowning 
I'm not sure if they worked together
it was a fun run either way & curse of drowning worked really well with melee
explosive shot?
it makes the bow painfully slower and shot becomes explosive instead of piercing
a s s
you can say ass
or donkey if you wanna be like me
nvm, im not gonna win 
rough
but don't limit test the bot please
because I did that and got muted xD

good job
rip
on topic please
did we go off topic?
ok
still not sure I went off topic, but ok
did you believe in yourself onion?
did you win?
7 minutes to kill Hades... my behind is clenching.
so you did it?
sorry i saw ass conversation and a gif and i just assumed so nvm you're all fine, my bad
im on styx, getting on it
imagine beating hades in less than 30 mins 😎

couldn't be me
2 sack + Hades = 4 mins
but gl with your run!
I believe in you!
sack rng is rigged
😎
can u even get sack first try
brb xD
idts
smh
50% to get 2 sack
no
you can breeze through styx!
and unless you got no cast & no call then Hades is 2 mins

maybe have the other boons too unless you're doing boonless
what

no no you need to go fast
sanic


only pokemon servers smh
whats a server
anyways you gotta go faster!
SACK ON THE SECOND ROOM
WOO
nice
Now go kill daddy!

see, 2 sack + Hades = 4 mins
only pokemon servers smh
ooh, didn't know they had one, just a sec
gamer time
you have 3 mins to get water
imagine drinking water

i died
stop dying and win
im trying 
try harder
bully time. imagine losing
mods, help
Try not to die next time
adds a couple more to 4head advice counter
have you tried not getting destroyed?
yeah but still
ugh when you find a hammer at the shop and you have 199
borrow from charon and then buy it
dont do that 
Just dodge his attacks, simple as that
charon barely offers me loans
are you going to cook onions?
cooking is good.
go get one
Imagine hating cutting unions
Instead of wearing swimming goggles LMAO
LOL
nice
Watching Hades videos while playing Hades, so I can have more Hades per Hades

nice
nice

gaming time
its weird watching the moderators with a color that isn't green

mine is usually a deep dark purple
we have colour roles 
anyways, Good luck 🧅 !
thx 


I want a pet channel
can't post pics u.u
you can post image links - just have breaks between each link
it worked 
Can I Please Have A Monkey Rank
ok
monke?
Walrus monkey?
whats the weapon that shoots lasers?
lucifer
its an aspect?
yeah
rail hidden
no
Beowolf supremacy
beowulf good
beowoflf is fun
zeus better
splashy lightning
I cant play Zeus
what made it so broken
i dont think ive ever used the one that throws the spinny shield
it had better spread, range, and tracking that what we had now
bounce
sure you can
yes you can
why do complicated weird baylabe
git
gud :
when I can make Beowulf go boom
when you git
gud :
beyblade fun
but seriously, just get dio cast and you can make most things go boom
don't overthink it
Just do Athena for everything lmao
what ew
no
Zeus is too big brained for me
yes this is what I mean
one braincell
kaboom
perfect
That is a lot of cast
pp man using abyssal blood 😳
i use it because on beowulf the casts dont lodge
what the heck
so it becomes useless
still, for consistency sake
WHAT
did you have the sword aspect that drops em?
how
with that the exit wounds is wild
no
@manic bobcat He said it bad so I joke
using abyssal is no joke man
it's a sign of a psychopath
ambiguity bonus
lol

pp man, my favorite psycopath
PsychoPath man
says the one using abyssal
boonless mirrorless guan yu
boonless mirrorless gilgamesh
you have to rotate your moves. So like after you attack your next move has to be special, then cast, then attack again
in that order
idk if it would actually be, ya know, fun
my two brain cells probably can't handle that
but
but we will see
maybe
whats the ME build with the fist?
i can see how the 5x special could be awesome
im using talos with doomy attack
you can sell special after you get ME if you want to
I never use the special so I just keep it
Acron is reaaaaally good. thanks for the recommendation
yep
i built a lil doomcopter
that's the build
you can also get artemis cast or call for deadly reversal
impending doom is also good
dire too
Deadly reversal=ME at home
if you can actually get some extra dooms in before you deflect it away
with a boon
with a T2 boon
yes
what else would it be
i walked into styx with the ares keepsake
https://prnt.sc/153avun i like those three D:
idk
what why
maybe they forgot to swap?
Meanwhile me, who likes ME+DR as a combo
They are good ttogether
its a really good combo
I just think its kinda funny how they do a very similar thing
nice
the erebus thingy is like a new zone?
yeah
its hard?
yeah it can be hard
when can i upgrade the book?
em4 dumb
em4 fun
em4 hard
EM4 easy
Shadow wrong
Shadow right
Shadowrong
wrong
em4 easy
exactly
no
yes


you just bad
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jokes on you i dont know how to read

i have a question
what
i don't have answer
why is meg in my room
to play a board game
what else
"oh uhh uhhh i was just picking up some of my stuff"
she's your ex lol
bruh
she's my ex
she is?
yes
yeah
bruh
and then ||you can get together again if you want||
i know that part
yeah
he do be saying blast
I just ||rejected her||
Damn
nice
you did what most could not



i couldn't say no to meg
i mean
how can you say no to that voice


bouldys voice is better
agreed




yall are dead to me

who
love you too fox
||but we all know how dusa goes||
skellys voice is great
yeah
Are there any updates planned for Hades?
im sure they are prepping for more platform lol.
they said they are on break since... September xD
or I guess they can take a really long break, too
Don't get me wrong, I love the game. I'm not done yet. Would be cool to see new boons/gods/duos etc. Just more really lol
I dun need more
Supergiant doesn't feel like a developer who makes sequels either.
this would be their first, if they decide to do it
though this is also a lot of their "first"
first EA game
first game to get this kind of attention
first roguelite (though they experiment with new genre for every new game tbf)
so if I beat for example heat 5 do I get the rewards from all previous heats or is it just increased rewards or w/e?
just 5
and then you wont get rewards for one
but you will for 2, 3, 4, and 5 again
It just uses the lowest bounty on the wepon
if that makes sense
so wait. why 5 again?
It'll give the rewards for 1 heat first










