#h1-discussion

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half zephyr
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I fail then

robust hound
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when im with a new aspect y try to get some extra hp

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just to be safe and try the weapon

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i just enter Elysium with 242

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i almost got no boons

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sadge

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on the other hand... wtf is wrong with my english today.

half zephyr
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well, have you been choosing boon rooms?

robust hound
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yep

half zephyr
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all the time?

robust hound
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except for the chaos one

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yea

half zephyr
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do you have uhm.. whatitscalled again

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the mirror upgrade

robust scaffold
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dark foresight

half zephyr
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green - instead of rare boost

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yes

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that

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foresight

robust hound
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yea

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i have that

half zephyr
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weird

robust hound
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for the hammer thing mostly

half zephyr
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you still only get 2

signal aspen
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well it increases the chance of getting the first hammer in tart

half zephyr
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just makes them appear more often until you choose them

robust hound
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hmmm

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yea, could be that

half zephyr
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I use foresight to get moar boons

manic bobcat
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Yeah that sounds about right by the end of the game. 200 to 300 range. Anything below that is danger zone, at least for me.

robust hound
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only i get the tooth trinket against hades?

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lol

manic bobcat
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Acorn better, generally

half zephyr
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acorn \0/

manic bobcat
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Tooth isn't bad either

half zephyr
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I haven't used either in aaaaages

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plume forever

robust hound
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what's acorn

manic bobcat
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O.o

robust hound
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the bottom thingys?

manic bobcat
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Acorn deez...

half zephyr
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eurydice keepsake

signal aspen
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acorn is better than tooth

half zephyr
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at rank 1 you can tank 3 boss hits

manic bobcat
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Just kidding Acorn is Eurydice keepsake

half zephyr
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rank 2 > 4 hits
rank 3 > 5 hits

robust hound
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aaaaaa

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yea

manic bobcat
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It's more effective HP on later bosses and higher heat

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Basically

half zephyr
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but who needs acorn when you can dodge!

manic bobcat
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I would love to love plume

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But it's just so inflexible

half zephyr
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it's fun though

manic bobcat
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Once you out it on you need to stick with it 5ever

half zephyr
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just

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and

brisk trail
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plume is just sad

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butterfly too

manic bobcat
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Oof

half zephyr
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I beat 32 with plume!

brisk trail
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their bonus should be higher

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yeah I beat 45 with it

half zephyr
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is fun

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plume is my reason for playing by now hehe

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just speeeeed

brisk trail
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its like when you get more dodge with other things

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why bother with the dodge keepsake

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;(

half zephyr
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cuz extra speed

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and dodge

brisk trail
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it is fun tho yeah

half zephyr
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I use max plume + max zag fist + ruthless hehe

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it makes winning easy

brisk trail
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im just sad that its rly not good

half zephyr
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it's fun & that's all that matters!

manic bobcat
half zephyr
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I used to use greater

manic bobcat
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Until you take an arrow to the knee?

half zephyr
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but then I tried ruthless on baby since I was already used to 1 dash

half zephyr
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yuck

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shudder

manic bobcat
half zephyr
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that's what it means..

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taking an arrow to the knee means getting married

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it's from skyrim

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that's what it's always meant

robust hound
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im not liking the gun that much ):

half zephyr
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gun will get better

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use Eris

manic bobcat
signal aspen
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rail is great

half zephyr
manic bobcat
unborn remnant
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any dusa fans in the chat

half zephyr
unborn remnant
half zephyr
signal aspen
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who is dusa

half zephyr
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medusa

signal aspen
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who is medusa

half zephyr
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a cursed victim

signal aspen
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oh nice

manic bobcat
signal aspen
robust scaffold
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wow zeus shield doing so much dmg...

half zephyr
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zeus shield w zeus & support fire

manic bobcat
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Zeus shield with ME

signal aspen
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zeus with zeus is better

half zephyr
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zeus shield was made for zeus

robust scaffold
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i have support fire lol

signal aspen
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thats why its aspect of zeus

half zephyr
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yess

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support fire on beyblade OP

signal aspen
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yeah its great

half zephyr
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arrows forever

robust hound
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zeus shield was so fun

manic bobcat
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Anyway, I need to get my government micro chip planted so I can travel again.

robust scaffold
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yay epic call, epic jolted and epic double lightning effects

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this is good

manic bobcat
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That's so epic

half zephyr
signal aspen
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bow good

half zephyr
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and me disliking bow doesn't have to mean I hate arrows

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artemis is arrow

manic bobcat
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¹

signal aspen
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¹

half zephyr
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now I think I need to lie down a bit cuz my head is starting to hurt some

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ttyl

manic bobcat
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How did that happen

manic bobcat
robust hound
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well i won with the aspect of Eris

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but 40 minutes

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lol

torpid axle
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damn

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first time I've gotten a 3 way choice

robust hound
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aight. the 3 fury at once was easier than only one?

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🤔

signal aspen
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em1 is just easy in general

manic bobcat
torpid axle
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3 fury at once? -_-

robust hound
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oh, spoilers

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monkaS

robust scaffold
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its not as bad as it sounds

torpid axle
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0-0

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this is amazing

manic bobcat
manic bobcat
torpid axle
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I have tried twin before

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haven't seen triple tho

manic bobcat
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Those two are the best hammers you can get on bow

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The next tier is perfect or point blank

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The special hammer is meh unless you are playing a specific aspect.

torpid axle
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the bows special is honestly garbage

signal aspen
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bruh

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its not garbage lol

manic bobcat
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Correct xD

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It kinda is doe

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I mean we are not talking Chiron here

signal aspen
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no weapon is garbage

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except for gilgamesh

manic bobcat
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Yeah, but bow special is on Zag and Hera

torpid axle
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my 2nd heroic drop

signal aspen
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still less damage than splash dash residentzag

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idk if thats true

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i just assumed it was

torpid axle
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bull and theseus round 55

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incoming

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I hate this boss so much

signal aspen
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you should kill them

torpid axle
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I just killed these 2 idiots without a single death

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bow is legit the best weapon

signal aspen
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wait i just realized that you said that the special is garbage

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dont look

torpid axle
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are you blind

signal aspen
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yes

torpid axle
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2nd time reaching temple of styx

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is there any way for me to know where the bag is?

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or is it completely random

signal aspen
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its not predetermined

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its never in the first tunnel

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and there is a 50% chance that it is in the second tunnel

torpid axle
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these tiny rats are a bit annoying

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I'ma sell my heroic boon

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so I could buy a bunch of stuff from charron

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I don't think dodge dmg is gonna do much for hades

half zephyr
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dodge dmg?

torpid axle
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blast upon dodging

half zephyr
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you mean dash boon?
or the zeus near miss boon?

torpid axle
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aphrodite heroic dash boon

half zephyr
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dodging is enemy hits you, you dodged & took no dmg

signal aspen
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bruh

half zephyr
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it's automatic

half zephyr
torpid axle
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I have weak on my primary

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and my cast

half zephyr
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why did you get so much aphro on bow?

torpid axle
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I kept running into her

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got some crit from artemis

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and call from hades

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ares**

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🤦‍♂️

half zephyr
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ye, hades call is it's own keepsake

signal aspen
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yeah

half zephyr
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can't get from boons

torpid axle
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ye I know

signal aspen
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ares call isnt that good

torpid axle
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it's the only one I got

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during the whole run

half zephyr
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aphro call would be better

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or artie

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big dmg

manic bobcat
torpid axle
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no bag in 2nd room

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damn iiiit

signal aspen
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nice

manic bobcat
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5sack incoming

signal aspen
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6 sack incoming

torpid axle
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please no

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I've come this far with all 3 revives

signal aspen
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a 6 sack is where cerberus already ate the sack but he wont let you go

torpid axle
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I don't want to lose all 3 before hades

half zephyr
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you lost a dd?

torpid axle
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nope

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I don't have the 3rd dd bought

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I got 2 and the tooth

half zephyr
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just don't get hit

torpid axle
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thanks

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unfortunately this'll have to wait till tonight

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I CAN'T QUIT

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OMG

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NOOO

half zephyr
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heh

signal aspen
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no you can quit when you go to the next chamber

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but you cant quit a chamber if you have taken damage

manic bobcat
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So you have joined the 4head advice club

signal aspen
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ok

torpid axle
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phew

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I was in the lobby

manic bobcat
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Just alt f4 works too

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I'm p sure

torpid axle
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yeah sure

signal aspen
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it works

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you know how when you press f10 it brings the bug report screen? yeah, alt f4 will let you quit the game

torpid axle
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gotta leave for training in like 10mins and I sure wasn't going to leave my pc running for the next 5 hours

manic bobcat
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The game had a 2 save files, one for the run, one for the house before the run.
They also have a backup save.
And a backup for that backup.

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So unless you messed up majorly, your run is likely safe.

torpid axle
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I reallly don't want to screw this run up

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nah nah I entered the next chamber cleared it and quit

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safely

signal aspen
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nice

manic bobcat
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What kind of run should I do now?

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Open to suggestion

signal aspen
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guan yu with high confidence

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it works better if guan yu is at level 1

manic bobcat
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Pass

torpid axle
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quick question

signal aspen
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dash only gilgamesh

torpid axle
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how do I even unlock aspects

manic bobcat
signal aspen
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unlock all weapons

torpid axle
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I have a bunch of titan blood and can't do anything with it

half zephyr
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you have to unlock all weapons

manic bobcat
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Unlock all weapons then do one more run. Talk to Skelly, then walk to one of the weapon.

half zephyr
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register in codex

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then it's just interact twice with a weapon

brave thicket
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How do you play Aspect of Eris. What boons?

signal aspen
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zap

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zeus attack, artemis special, poseidon dash

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for hammers you should get cluster rocket and rocket bomb

manic bobcat
brave thicket
signal aspen
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well yeah

torpid axle
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thx

signal aspen
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but eris is better because of the 75% global damage increase

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so the lightning and the dash damage is increased

manic bobcat
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The 5head move is Hazard Bomb Eris

signal aspen
brave thicket
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How does rocket help with that when you need to shoot yourself?

manic bobcat
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Exactly

signal aspen
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yeah

manic bobcat
brave thicket
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Hazard bomb eris is the build I tried, p fun

signal aspen
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if you dont want that you can skip rocket bomb and just take cluster bomb

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but clockets is much better

manic bobcat
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It boosts you if you do point blank, and big damage if you have cluster

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Just try it

brave thicket
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What about Hera bow?

manic bobcat
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Cluster rocket, dash to melee range and unleash

signal aspen
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aphro cast and mirage shot

manic bobcat
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And yeah mirage

signal aspen
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athena also works if you get parting shot

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athena cast backstabs from the front

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so its great with parting shot

manic bobcat
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god bless, here we go

signal aspen
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nice

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wait dont use ares dash

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use splash dash

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way more damage

manic bobcat
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ares better?

signal aspen
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no

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splash dash better

manic bobcat
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too late

signal aspen
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bruh

manic bobcat
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i dont see how tidal is better tbh

signal aspen
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big damage

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and i feel like doing dash only with blade dash will be awkward

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since the blade spawns at the start of the dash and not the end

manic bobcat
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but if you put eveything on dash

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with ares legendary black rift, heavy metal (?)

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we have higher potential on blade?

ruby sparrow
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thats a huge boon investment you're not even guaranteed to get

signal aspen
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what

manic bobcat
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and tidal is safe?

ruby sparrow
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yes

manic bobcat
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when you kinda need seastorm too?

ruby sparrow
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you absolutely do not

manic bobcat
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yeah you kinda do xD

ruby sparrow
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disagree

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the lightning off sea storm is only substantial with investment in zeus

manic bobcat
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fine, agree to disagree then

manic bobcat
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but ok

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should I say hi to charon?

signal aspen
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uh

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yeah

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its gonna take a while with the low dps

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but sure

robust scaffold
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omg that build

half zephyr
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Have fun 🦊

manic bobcat
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though i skipped because i dont want to die to timer

robust scaffold
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im not judging that

craggy vapor
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I am hehe

robust scaffold
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but it is questionable to take TD if ur scared of the timer

manic bobcat
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its fine xD

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easy win

signal aspen
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nice

craggy vapor
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Goodluck FoxHope

manic bobcat
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it is done

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in 23:14

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didn't take as long as I expected

craggy vapor
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Good job!

manic bobcat
lunar orchid
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i like the athena dash more than the tidal

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especially if you can level it up

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being able to catch things and throw em around is alot of funb

signal aspen
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leveling up divine dash adds like 3 damage

lunar orchid
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no

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theres a boon that can add like 200%

signal aspen
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what

lunar orchid
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and then brillian repost or whatever

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oh i dont mean the dash damage specifically

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i mean the deflecting damage

signal aspen
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yeah

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the dash deals no damage

lunar orchid
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yeah but the deflecting things do

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=]

signal aspen
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i dont use divine dash anymore

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except for ME

lunar orchid
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ME?

signal aspen
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merciful end

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duo boon between ares and athena

lunar orchid
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oh yeah

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i did that yesterday for first time

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it was pretty gnarly

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especially with the spear and the triple dash attack

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i dont really play ares much

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cept for battlerage

signal aspen
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its not bad on spear

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i mainly use it on fists

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i will sometimes use it on zeus shield

lunar orchid
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how many different benefits can they have from the package pact

signal aspen
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2

lunar orchid
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its fun discovering new enemy attacks

signal aspen
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wait wrong answer

lunar orchid
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the witches have tracking balls

signal aspen
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they can have 2 at a time

lunar orchid
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yeah but how many different things

signal aspen
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lemme check

lunar orchid
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like they can teleport

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they have the chain things

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the blue one hit shields

signal aspen
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there are 11 buffs that the enemies can get

lunar orchid
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like what are the purple circles do

signal aspen
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1 of them is asphodel only

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and 1 is elysium only

lunar orchid
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do the

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where they have the links between them?

signal aspen
signal aspen
lunar orchid
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maybe thats two different things

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sometimes they have purple lines connecting them

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is that the same as the purple circle shields

signal aspen
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those are different buffs

lunar orchid
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whats the links do?

signal aspen
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they damage you

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when they touch you

lunar orchid
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the lines ?

signal aspen
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yes

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the purple lines between two enemies

lunar orchid
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is there a list of their buffs some place?

signal aspen
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yeah

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https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Pact_of_Punishment

Hades Wiki
Pact of Punishment

The Pact of Punishment is a contract provided by Hades for the purpose of making Zagreus' escape attempts even more difficult while earning valuable rewards. In a regular playthrough (save file), the Pact will only appear after the Final Boss is defeated at least once, and Zagreus has claimed victory. When he inevitably returns to the House of H...

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scroll down

lunar orchid
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thx

unborn remnant
lunar orchid
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is the targeting system hammer good on the rail?

signal aspen
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yes

lunar orchid
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or explosive fire?

signal aspen
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explosive fire is fine

brisk trail
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What's the rest of your kit?

lunar orchid
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5shot on the rail and watery special

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going for sea storm

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splashy lightning is fun

brisk trail
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Targetting System.

lunar orchid
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yeah thats what i did

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def nice

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its 86 in my room this game makes me sweat so much

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im losing weight just playing this

warm panther
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side hustle doesn't work the the chaos' +70% charron gold

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....

half zephyr
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nope

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it's not a reward

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it's a hustle

half zephyr
warm panther
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Any obols you find is worth +70%

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any

half zephyr
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you don't find them

dusky wedge
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Just wondering, how many of you guys consistently get sub 10m runs?

half zephyr
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not me

warm panther
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still think it's inconsistent

manic bobcat
dusky wedge
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Just now, Zagreus MOCKS me by saying “I wonder if I can go faster”. Dude, even getting 10m 5s is a once in a lifetime achievement for me lmao

manic bobcat
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but i don't think sub 10 can be consistent

warm panther
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why wouldn't it be "all obol is worth 70% more"

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maybe balancing

manic bobcat
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probably sub 12 is more realistic

half zephyr
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it's the obols you find - you don't find the side hustle obols, it's a boon effect that you get them

dusky wedge
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Yeah, 13m something is consistent for me

craggy vapor
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@signal aspen We have questions regarding sub 10 runs please

lunar orchid
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wow merciful end is wild with a divine dash and a 3x spear with doooom

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doom em up and dash right threw em

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and they vanish

dusky wedge
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Try fist with ME

manic bobcat
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that's why nerfed divine dash when the game was relesed

lunar orchid
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yeah i bet

dusky wedge
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That’s the premier ME weapon, maybe

half zephyr
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ME fist is the only way I can enjoy that duo

lunar orchid
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i love the divine dash

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esp with the upgraded deflect boo

dusky wedge
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Even today, I’m still having a hard time when not using divine dash, ngl

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I think I can count the runs I win without divine dash

half zephyr
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I never pick divine dash unless I have to

signal aspen
warm panther
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playing with the bow hurts my right hand

manic bobcat
dusky wedge
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It’s either divine dash or Poseidon dash for me

half zephyr
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I like a lot of dashes, but I just rather not take divine

dusky wedge
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Oh right, the dash strike dash

craggy vapor
# signal aspen What

@dusky wedge Had questions regarding if sub 10 was consistent and if there are people who can make that happen regularly. I've seen your times and called for you.

lunar orchid
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oo and i got an epic battle rage

half zephyr
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you should build up your doom if you got ME

signal aspen
dusky wedge
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You mean, a lot on YouTube or a big portion of the playerbase? zaglol

manic bobcat
half zephyr
dusky wedge
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I mean, the best I get is 10m 5s and I can’t even repeat it ever since

manic bobcat
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i mean sub 10 isn't that hard to get, but getting it consistently I doubt because RNG can screw you

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there is no fighting that, no matter how good you are

dusky wedge
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I don’t even know how I got that lol

signal aspen
manic bobcat
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i don't doubt people have done crazy time

signal aspen
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Uh probably not

dusky wedge
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Ok, maybe 70% of the time? 50% maybe?

signal aspen
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On a 5 sack probably less than 50% lol

manic bobcat
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well overall i think over 50% easy

signal aspen
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You need insane rng everywhere but styx to get a sub 10 5 sack

manic bobcat
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but im not sure how high because it's been a while since I followed the speedrunning scene

dusky wedge
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Statistically, getting a 5 sack is more rare than often though, right? 2 sack is probably the most common, based on my own experience

manic bobcat
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yeah

signal aspen
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Yeah 2 sacks are common

dusky wedge
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I think I get 2 sack most of the time

manic bobcat
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it's weighted toward your favor

signal aspen
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You have a 50% chance to get one

lunar orchid
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iu gotta take a break from this game

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im getting all slippery

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too sweaty

signal aspen
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How do you become slippery

lunar orchid
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its hot in this room

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sweat

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heh

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this game is a work out sometimes

signal aspen
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How

lunar orchid
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have you never sweated?

dusky wedge
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Sweaty controller hands, been there, done that

signal aspen
craggy vapor
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He commented earlier that it was incredibly hot in his room and the game was making him sweat as he was trying to be good. Thus lots of sweaty goodness.

signal aspen
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Oh

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I don't sweat from playing games lol

lunar orchid
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im skinny with a high metabnolism

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i sweat alot

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its almost 90 in here

craggy vapor
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Wow. I envy you. I tend to sweat when I'm really getting into it or am stressed. Especially during comp games.

signal aspen
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Well I don't get too nervous when I'm playing hades

dusky wedge
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I usually sweat my controllers when I’m playing in AC rooms

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Don’t know how that happen

signal aspen
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I'll only get nervous at high heats, which I don't really do that often

dusky wedge
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I hate it

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My controller gets all sticky and I have to chill after some time and take time to clean it

stiff musk
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sweat less

manic bobcat
signal aspen
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Just stop existing

dusky wedge
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Rip

warm panther
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the bow is unplayable with a controller

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right hand gets way too sore after asphodel

austere jacinth
signal aspen
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There are lots of controller players that can play bow well

lunar orchid
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what

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the bow is ok with a controller

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it sucks early seems like

warm panther
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spamming X+A and having to hold it in everytime

lunar orchid
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althought i havent played alot with it but ive cleared a bunch

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usually using the stone one or the shared suffer

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wow i got sea storm before leaving the first level

warm panther
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and kiting with the rigth thumbstick just makes it really painfull on the muscles after a while

austere jacinth
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I love shotgun spamming the bow-it's my second fave playstyle/weapon-and always use a controller.

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I can do a few runs without anything starting to hurt.

manic bobcat
austere jacinth
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Both is fun. The special is possibly more fun though

signal aspen
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What

manic bobcat
austere jacinth
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IT'S SO FUN THOUGH

signal aspen
#

No

manic bobcat
#

just kidding play however you like :D

austere jacinth
#

xDD

manic bobcat
#

you are still dead to me though

signal aspen
#

It's fun if you like doing 30 damage to your enemies

warm panther
#

^

austere jacinth
#

That's fine. Everything else is dead the moment I look at it

warm panther
#

bow special sucks

#

even on large enemies im pretty sure its less dps than just attacking

signal aspen
#

Yeah

#

Don't use the special unless you are using rama or chiron

austere jacinth
#

Shotgun bow special was initially a little bit OP. It's taken a bit of a nerf, but you can still run it really well if you stack damage debuffs.

warm panther
#

give me back my thumb muscle

#

man I need a bigger controller

#

xbox controller not ergonomic at all

#

literally had to give up my run cause I cant use right thumb

austere jacinth
#

I use the XBox controller for Hades on the PC. No issues with it myself. Maybe my hands are just smaller -shrugs-

manic bobcat
lunar orchid
#

the fusion a elite is pretty nice

manic bobcat
#

I swap the Dash to B and Attack to A

#

I prefer it that way instead of reaching for X

#

or you can do the Dark Souls treatment and put attack on trigger lol

austere jacinth
#

I use the PS4 controller for more... idk, for a different kind of action game (Dark Souls, DMC, MHW). Xbox works fine for Hades though.

warm panther
#

yeah might need to rebind

#

but that would confuse me

#

until I get used to it again

lunar orchid
#

sea storm with high voltage is so fun

#

splashy lighting!

manic bobcat
signal aspen
#

Why use high voltage when you can use double strike

lunar orchid
#

why not both

manic bobcat
#

but have you thought of taking a break?

warm panther
#

no

#

aint no casual

lunar orchid
#

im a go fishing in SCUM after this round

signal aspen
warm panther
#

is there any good reason not to start with athena's keepstake?

#

deflect is just too op

manic bobcat
brisk trail
#

Maybe if you're looking for a different build.

manic bobcat
#

for example, on rail, you kinda want lightning strike or your clear would be kinda meh

#

that said, athena second for extra DD, deflect is also ok

warm panther
#

artemis' extra arrows and hangover does that too

#

never got lightning strike on rail yet

#

but got the other 2 and it was hella strong

manic bobcat
#

you should try it

warm panther
#

if I find it

#

on hit is super good with rail

manic bobcat
#

yeah, but i also mean like forcing it with zeus keepsake

warm panther
#

wait

#

thight deadline is basically one free heat if you dont need more

#

my first win was 32 mins and I didnt go fast by any means

#

at one heat you get 36 minutes

manic bobcat
#

correct

#

thigh deadline is good

warm panther
#

kinda makes dusa's keepstake obsolete tho

#

its quite usefull sometimes

#

wait, are duo boons guaranteed if you have both preriquisites or do they just get added to the possible boon pool

manic bobcat
#

not guaranteed

lunar orchid
#

how you get the dusa thing ive been hitting on here forever

#

and she doesnt want my wine

manic bobcat
#

you need to fix the lounge

#

and then some other event should happen

#

and then you can talk more to her

warm panther
#

ero scene when

manic bobcat
#

at the end of the road, it's real hot i tell you

warm panther
#

need.... more..... nectar...

manic bobcat
#

it is very hot

warm panther
#

wheres my nectar irl

#

if only

lunar orchid
#

whats the max heat rank?

manic bobcat
#

63 on normal, 64 on hell mode

warm panther
#

@lunar orchid lots of info like that on the wiki

#

wow time issn't paused in shops o.O

#

lost like 1 minute

modern garnet
#

Gotta shop fast

lunar orchid
#

omg the rail with 5x missiles with seastorm

#

i just killed hades in 4 specials point blank

#

omg

modern garnet
#

Hehehehehe

#

One of the most fun hammers

hearty patio
#

im so nervous

lunar orchid
#

it was a like 2-1 iron at the end

hearty patio
#

about to face Hades for the 4th time but i have the shield and 4 lives

lunar orchid
#

lucky**

#

got both 5x and missile

half zephyr
#

I wonder when I stopped being nervous about exceeding the heat gauge

lunar orchid
#

i had the shotgun too but didnt even need it

manic bobcat
#

You beat 32

half zephyr
#

And stopped being too worried about facing EM4 without a proper build ia_think_thonk

manic bobcat
#

What's left to fear?

half zephyr
lunar orchid
#

dbox the shield is the easiest to beat hades

#

just block his laserbeams and smackl him around

half zephyr
lunar orchid
#

i just spent like 4500 gems sexing up my hall and lounge

half zephyr
#

I decided to add FO2 & BP1 to me EM4+TD1 (and FO1) mix

lunar orchid
#

i have a disco ball and meat racks and sexy fireplace

half zephyr
#

More fun, but still had 2 dd left after Hades

#

Will try BP2 next ia_think_thonk

#

I did get another Than encounter though!

#

Maybe today is the day pleadcry

manic bobcat
#

bp2 isnt that bad

#

only a few of the combos are bad

half zephyr
#

Oh come on

half zephyr
half zephyr
#

Well

#

I unlocked the resource sink

hearty patio
#

yay! I finally beat hades

#

is the 48th attempt bad compared to everyone else?

half zephyr
#

Everyone plays at their own speed

hearty patio
manic bobcat
#

people play at different speed and style

half zephyr
manic bobcat
#

some more suicidal than others

half zephyr
#

For some this is their first roguelite - or even first game - and for others it’s a genre they’re very used to & know how to play easily

#

There’s also the whole thing with kbm vs controller vs joy cons & pc vs switch akashrug

lusty stump
#

Going in here for a bit to mention Hades music is being performed at Gamefest rn!

half zephyr
#

Cool

#

I need to decide if I should make another attempt at finding Than or if I should visit one of my other games ia_think_thonk

slim flicker
#

Will Hermes attack speed affect spear charge rate?

manic bobcat
#

no

slim flicker
#

aight thanks

#

Reaching hades with extreme measures with 40 max hp with Guan Yu

#

very concerned

signal aspen
#

Don't get hit

manic bobcat
#

ty pp man

crude surge
#

Thats good wisdom

half zephyr
#

I have power enough for one more run so I’ll do one more run to try & get Than

slim flicker
#

the power of acorn carried me

half zephyr
#

Why does zag keep tempting the fates?
“What’s the worst that could happen?” Seriously, why ask this PikachuFacePalm

torpid axle
#

my 2 choices for the next room are shining

#

what does that mean?

#

actually

#

one is shining and sparkling

half zephyr
#

Is there a skull?

torpid axle
#

ye

half zephyr
#

Mini boss or stronger encounter

#

Get better reward tho

half zephyr
uncut dagger
lunar orchid
#

wow i just went 64 and 5 with than

#

do you get a bonus for him having zero?

half zephyr
#

Nope

crude surge
#

you get a victory screen title

#

but thats it

manic bobcat
half zephyr
#

I think this is the fastest I’ve been out of asphodel ia_think_thonk
6:50.53

manic bobcat
#

not bad

signal aspen
#

Imagine not getting a sub 4 asphodel

manic bobcat
#

imagine not sub 5 the entire run

signal aspen
#

Sub 5 runs are easy

half zephyr
chrome wharf
#

*pride and accomplishment noises

signal aspen
#

But I've never done one

manic bobcat
half zephyr
manic bobcat
signal aspen
#

What is happening

crude surge
#

it's a standoff

signal aspen
#

Oh nice

half zephyr
signal aspen
#

The horse holding a toilet is back

manic bobcat
#

inb4 mods yell at us

crude surge
half zephyr
manic bobcat
#

did you clear your run?

signal aspen
half zephyr
#

No, I melted Asterius

#

Then I had to run after Theseus

crude surge
half zephyr
#

On my way to styx now

signal aspen
signal aspen
half zephyr
#

I got Zeus atk + heroic jolted + splitting bolt + legendary

signal aspen
#

Splitting bolt plus zeus legendary is great

half zephyr
#

So I got Zeus dash just before boss fight just to have a dash & it was what was offered

#

And then my special is hangover so there’s my PS

#

1 special & then just melt with lightning

manic bobcat
half zephyr
crude surge
#

Splitting is the legendary

signal aspen
#

Yeah

half zephyr
#

Aaah

#

It was something before that

#

I don’t register the legendary names

#

Just that they have the orange colour

signal aspen
#

Bruh

manic bobcat
crude surge
#

Splitting bolt? Na

half zephyr
#

Lemme check

crude surge
#

Orange Zeus thing: Ya

manic bobcat
half zephyr
#

Storm lightning

#

That’s the one

#

It started with an S

#

That’s about all I could remember about that boon

#

It was needed for legendary & started with an S hehe

manic bobcat
#

I bet none of you can get on to my level

#

level 2 splitting bolt

signal aspen
#

Yo that's pog af

warm panther
#

wait stygian soul is better than infernal in general right?

half zephyr
#

I usually go with high voltage ia_think_thonk

signal aspen
warm panther
#

hell even with cast builds it looks kinda equal

manic bobcat
signal aspen
#

But I like stygian

crude surge
#

You can pom legends?

signal aspen
#

...yes

crude surge
#

I

#

it

#

never

manic bobcat
#

no you can't

#

it's a bug that i encountered in EA

signal aspen
#

Nice

manic bobcat
#

or at least that's what amir told me

half zephyr
#

I’m gonna prolly do all 5 tunnels.. I got way too much time left

manic bobcat
#

pog, get that styx luxury item

half zephyr
#

I don’t need 20+ minutes against daddy dearest

#

He’s dead in less then 2

signal aspen
#

Or you can just get a 5 sack

manic bobcat
#

if you have an offensive dash

half zephyr
crude surge
#

I did a dash only run once

#

72 minutes and carried by stubborn roots

#

never again

signal aspen
#

Nice

lunar orchid
#

llol

half zephyr
#

I’d like for my first dash only to not be em4

lunar orchid
#

you can make some crazy dash runs

#

with ares

warm panther
#

wait is dark regeneration more healing than vitality?

manic bobcat
#

not bragging or anything squirtdevious

half zephyr
#

And preferably with Gilgamesh

warm panther
#

+3 per room is around 180 hp

signal aspen
crude surge
#

I got no buffs to my blade rifts

manic bobcat
#

i prefer dark regen

#

but vitality is not bad if you know when to use it

half zephyr
#

Tbh the only reason I’m still using vitality is cuz I only changed 1 thing from my 32 setup & that’s going from sd to dd ia_think_thonk

signal aspen
#

I always use vitality

manic bobcat
#

I think every mirror has its use, except for the debuff cast and to some extent favor (still good though)

warm panther
#

also I dont see you run ruthless, I know this one depends alot on the weapon and build

#

but +50% dmg is hard to pass

signal aspen
#

I only use dark Regen on lc4
To make the mirror pretty

half zephyr
#

Ruthless fun

manic bobcat
signal aspen
half zephyr
#

Great when combo with max zag fist & plume ir_evil_devil_laugh

manic bobcat
#

and mobility means you can be more agressive

oak fox
#

wait i may be late but

#

is it possible to Pom duo boons?

signal aspen
#

No

manic bobcat
oak fox
#

ok im not that lost

crude surge
#

Ruthless is fine for Gilg

manic bobcat
#

if you can it's likely a bug

half zephyr
#

Ugh

manic bobcat
#

duo and legendaries are not supposed to be more than one level

half zephyr
#

This is the worst hammer selection

#

Heavy knuckle, rush kick & explosive upper

manic bobcat
#

on zag fist?

crude surge
#

Explosive upper is good!

half zephyr
#

Mhmm

manic bobcat
#

what do you have on attack?

signal aspen
#

Explosive upper good, but not on zag fist

crude surge
#

why not?

half zephyr
manic bobcat
#

i guess explosive is your best bet here, at least it doesn't hurt.

half zephyr
manic bobcat
#

yeah just click upper

#

it's the best out of the bunch

half zephyr
#

Ye was going to

#

This was a sad hammer

crude surge
#

Is heavy ever good?

signal aspen
#

No

half zephyr
#

It’s good for getting the prophecy

crude surge
#

lol

manic bobcat
#

I don't want to say no but it's always been so meh when I pick it

#

let's just say there are better options

crude surge
#

Just thought maybe there is some obscure instance where its good

manic bobcat
warm panther
#

skelly stopped spawning in his room unless I switch weapons o.O

signal aspen
#

Yeah he does that sometimes

manic bobcat
warm panther
#

its fine

#

he's paid

crude surge
#

||I love how Zag threatens to stop beating him if he doesn't say who hired him||

half zephyr
#

He likes it

warm panther
#

lmao

wheat anvil
#

lmao

warm panther
#

you get 2 zeus shield

manic bobcat
warm panther
#

with the upgrade

wheat anvil
#

So who did hire him?

signal aspen
#

Charon

wheat anvil
#

Does he even exist?

#

Or is it just Zagreu's imagiantion

#

oh

signal aspen
#

Yeah charon and hermes

wheat anvil
#

Nice

crude surge
signal aspen
#

No

manic bobcat
#

we don't have a name for the only zag fan

wheat anvil
#

It's a manifestation Zagreus' inner struggles with his dad and mom

manic bobcat
#

we need a name for them

warm panther
#

aspect of zeus seems very weak compared to normal special

signal aspen
#

What

crude surge
#

The only stan I respect

signal aspen
warm panther
#

less dps

signal aspen
#

Oh

manic bobcat
crude surge
#

pp man is now angy

warm panther
#

by quite alot

signal aspen
#

Just level it up

#

Duh

half zephyr
#

Beyblade is best shield

#

So good

#

Get Zeus on & some support fire

warm panther
#

dont got enough titan blood obviously

crude surge
#

Show us the pew emotes dusa

warm panther
#

but 8 dmg per tick is just worse than normal special

half zephyr
manic bobcat
half zephyr
manic bobcat
#

I need to join more emote servers

#

can't compete

half zephyr
#

I’ve got over 2k emotes

crude surge
#

big number

lunar orchid
#

emootes

manic bobcat
lunar orchid
#

whats that even mean 2k emootes

#

are you collecting them?

half zephyr
#

I have over 2000 emoji I can use

#

From different servers

#

Thx to nitro

lunar orchid
#

ok..

half zephyr
lunar orchid
#

ima take a break and play SCUM and go fishing

lethal island
lunar orchid
#

anyone wanna join

lethal island
#

doing a straight number comparison between it and the regular shield special is ignoring one of Zeus's biggest strengths: It's safety

manic bobcat
lethal island
#

^ that too

half zephyr
#

You can use your shield while you use special

manic bobcat
#

not to mention it's the only aspect that can use ME consistently

lethal island
#

Or Drunken Flourish if you're cool

half zephyr
#

You can attack while using special

manic bobcat
#

not even fists can use ME as consistently.

half zephyr
#

That alone makes it worth it

manic bobcat
lethal island
#

Zeus was theorized to be the optimal aspect for ME

#

Like in early days

half zephyr
#

Is boss time

lethal island
#

Since it doesn't need Divine Dash to function properly

half zephyr
manic bobcat
half zephyr
#

I’m at the dialogue you git

manic bobcat
#

it would be better if you start fighting

half zephyr
#

There

manic bobcat
#

smh orly

warm panther
half zephyr
#

Done

manic bobcat
#

that's .... 3 mins

half zephyr
#

Wish I had a call

manic bobcat
#

liar

half zephyr
#

I had no cast or call

#

And I can’t use my summon yet

manic bobcat
half zephyr
#

I forgot I needed daddy’s approval

warm panther
#

ah right

manic bobcat
#

or send the special to a place while you attack other things

warm panther
#

ill try it out before saying its bad

#

fair enough

manic bobcat
#

you can google zeus shield speedrun to get some ideas

warm panther
#

damage just seems really low at one level

manic bobcat
#

speedrunners use zeus well, it might help to visualize some of the combos

half zephyr
#

This turned into a Zeus heavy run

#

And yet

warm panther
#

I haven't used his boons in a really long time

half zephyr
#

I’m the disciple of Hermes

warm panther
#

is there any advantages for zeus?

half zephyr
#

Bounce

#

And jolted

warm panther
#

jolted that good?

manic bobcat
warm panther
#

never used it

half zephyr
#

Jolted is great

manic bobcat
half zephyr
#

Very nice when you need status for PS tho

#

The worst part though of this run

#

I didn’t see Than ir_cry_sob

manic bobcat
half zephyr
warm panther
#

WAIT

half zephyr
#

I’m still trying to unlock his heart ia_sad_cry_shy

warm panther
#

the default call seeks enemies

#

wut

half zephyr
#

Yes

warm panther
#

I never f realised

manic bobcat
half zephyr
#

It’s not very good at it

#

But it tries

warm panther
#

it just autoaims with controller so I never realised

manic bobcat
#

do you mean cast?

#

because there is no default call

warm panther
#

yes

#

typo

manic bobcat
#

it's a bit curvy yeah

half zephyr
#

I didn’t even read it as call hehe

manic bobcat
warm panther
#

this guy as dyslexic as me

#

heh

half zephyr
#

No

#

It’s just that you said it was default & there’s no default call

#

Figured it had to be cast

warm panther
#

wait a minute... special deflec with zeus shield

half zephyr
#

No

warm panther
#

sound super strong

half zephyr
#

Do Zeus on Zeus

warm panther
#

wouldn't delfect on special with zeus shield make you invincible while you stand near it

half zephyr
#

You eventually absorb it & it’d be so sloooow

#

Plus Athena

warm panther
#

you can just rethrow it

half zephyr
#

And then you have to dash over to go into it again

manic bobcat
half zephyr
#

It’s not worth it

#

Do Zeus or Artemis

#

And get support fire

#

Support fire on Zeus shield is a thing of beauty