#h1-discussion

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half zephyr
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my list is fist>sword>shield/rail>spear>bow

and the only reason sword is high on that list is cuz I have a lot of fun with arthur hehe
once I get over that it'll drop down

brisk trail
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for me it's probably: sword > rail > shield > fists > bow > spear

signal aspen
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shield > rail > bow > fists > sword > spear

half zephyr
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beyblade \0/

brisk trail
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but thats only for nemesis really, even zag sword you dont always do the dash strike stuff

young wedge
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shield is great

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shield can block everything bro

half zephyr
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I never block

brisk trail
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i only bull rush on beo

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and i never play chaos

half zephyr
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I can't even use beo properly cuz I'm so unused to bull/dragon rush

young wedge
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I bull rush with zeus

half zephyr
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why

signal aspen
young wedge
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I don't know how to use beo

half zephyr
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knock them into the beyblade

young wedge
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any tips?

half zephyr
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don't just block on zeus

brisk trail
signal aspen
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its still too slow

brisk trail
signal aspen
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dont waste all your casts on weak enemies

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you should load one cast when you see a weak enemy and use your dash strike to start your bullrush

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if you see an armored enemy you should use all your casts and do the same thing

young wedge
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what boon do you guys use for beo?

signal aspen
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most of the time i will use aphro cast or poseidon cast

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with both of those i will get mirage shot

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and thats pretty much it

brisk trail
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mirage shot beo is literally busted

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mirage shot does full damage with beo casts

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not 30%

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literally doubles your cast damage

young wedge
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what happened to the boss fights???

signal aspen
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you have em on right?

young wedge
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there's three fury sisters and hydra had a different place

signal aspen
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yeah

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em

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thats what em does

young wedge
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that's what it does??

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oh god

signal aspen
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yeah

young wedge
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what happens with theseus and asterius

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also hades

signal aspen
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theseus gets a chariot with a machine gun and rockets

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asterius gets a suit of armor and a rocket axe

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its cool

half zephyr
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and theseus gets the best laugh

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and outfit hehe

young wedge
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oh god

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does anything different happen with hades?

signal aspen
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oh

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yes

half zephyr
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with em4

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should you tell tho

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or leave to surprise

young wedge
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nooo

half zephyr
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cuz em4 is an experience

signal aspen
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he gets double spin, he throws his spear at you, he spawns mini bosses, he can self heal, he spawns cerberus to kill you, his laser attack pushes you away, he has a third phase,

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whoops

half zephyr
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oopsie

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the music makes it worth it

signal aspen
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yes

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i play with music off

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but it is worth it

young wedge
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same

half zephyr
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nice duos

young wedge
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for some reason I don't trust you @signal aspen \

signal aspen
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but you need 7 duos to beat it

signal aspen
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im crazy like that

young wedge
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200 win streak

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do you play in god mode?

signal aspen
half zephyr
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it's gone

signal aspen
young wedge
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wth

half zephyr
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he's just that great

signal aspen
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yeah

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im so good i could beat 5 heat like 100 times in a row

half zephyr
brisk trail
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damn

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5 heat

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thats insane

signal aspen
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yeah man

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but i still havent beat 0 heat

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its too hard

young wedge
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how long have you been playing @signal aspen

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?

signal aspen
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i started playing jan 1st

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and now i have 300 hours

young wedge
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damn

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I started playing like 5 days ago

signal aspen
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thats a long time

young wedge
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I have school

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I only play like 4-5 hours

brisk trail
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dang, 5 hours and already working on 8 heat?

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thats crazy

signal aspen
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yes

young wedge
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I used shield at first then switched to sword then bow

brisk trail
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and you realized sword is supreme, i like it

young wedge
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exactly

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I disliked the sword at first then I discovered arthur

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I'm not sure which is the superior aspect for bow tho, Rama or Chiron?

signal aspen
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rama is better than chiron imo

young wedge
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I agree

brisk trail
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yeah, rama is both more fun and more viable imo

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chiron damage just feels really low

signal aspen
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chiron damage isnt low

brisk trail
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but im a personal fan of hera over rama, hera is what i did 32 heat bow with

brisk trail
young wedge
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I wonder why Hera and Apollo isn't in the game

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so does Hephaestus

signal aspen
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hera is technically in the game

young wedge
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her bow yes

brisk trail
young wedge
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I'm pretty sure Aphrodite also mentioned that she's married

brisk trail
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plus, what kind of boons would they even give?

brisk trail
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theres dialogue about how she wouldnt mind cheating

young wedge
brisk trail
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ye

young wedge
brisk trail
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yeah

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because love and war are very similar or smth poetic like that

young wedge
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yepp

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also I want Hestia in the game

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not just the rail

signal aspen
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well

young wedge
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the god

signal aspen
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ok

young wedge
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she could have health boons or smnth

half zephyr
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she wouldn't fit in

signal aspen
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also i want zeus in the game, not the aspect

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wait

young wedge
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oh fire

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she could have fire boons

half zephyr
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if you go by the mythology then she gave up her place amongst the olympians so dionysus could be there

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well, some of the mythology ia_think_thonk

there's quite a bit of it

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but she was phased out

young wedge
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Is zeus fricking women left and right canon in the game?

half zephyr
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no avoiding the filter

young wedge
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yupp

half zephyr
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that's against the rules

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what you did

young wedge
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sorry about that

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fricking

half zephyr
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idk, I don't pay too much attention when stuff is being said about zeus in the game in general

unborn remnant
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We dont really learn much of the olympians extended family

young wedge
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Zeus being an accomplice with hades kidnapping Persephone was mentioned tho

half zephyr
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I really only pay attention to some of the minor mythological differences they've added since I'm already familiar with greek mythology

young wedge
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same

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I would really like a sisyphus boss battle actually

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since sisyphus was actually a bad person

unborn remnant
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hes a friend in this game though

half zephyr
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he's "redeemed"

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I still hold a grudge, but that's cuz I love than

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but I'm fine being his friend too

young wedge
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or how about a heracles boss battle

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to replace theseus

half zephyr
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no

young wedge
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sometimes

half zephyr
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no

unborn remnant
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They already talked about that

young wedge
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yup

half zephyr
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it's already an in game explanation for why

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and I love theseus

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I never wanna let him go

unborn remnant
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I understand where they're coming from though

half zephyr
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we wouldn't get asterius either if we had heracles

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cuz asterius fights with theseus cuz he's "the king"

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they got that whole "saved me from erebus" thing going on

stiff musk
young wedge
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which other characters would be fun tho

signal aspen
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what about Hercules

half zephyr
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he's got a great laugh & I love listening to him make a fool of himself

young wedge
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I really wanna see hercules as well

stiff musk
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hes dumb

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and mean

signal aspen
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yes

half zephyr
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and?

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being dumb doesn't mean you can't be loved

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and if we ruled out being mean then what about meg

signal aspen
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true

half zephyr
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what about the extended family

stiff musk
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meg can be mean bc shes hot

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theseus ugly

signal aspen
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lmao

young wedge
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Every greek god is selfish (except for a few exceptions)

half zephyr
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that's such a stupid reason

young wedge
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how dare you

half zephyr
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I love theseus cuz he makes me laugh when he laughs

signal aspen
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what about bouldy

young wedge
stiff musk
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asterius is an ox

unborn remnant
half zephyr
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no

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asterius is a minotaur

signal aspen
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asterius is bullman

stiff musk
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still an animal!

half zephyr
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his mother was a human tyvm

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he's not an animal

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he's technically a monster

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but not an animal

signal aspen
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well theres a certain part of the internet

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that really likes animals

young wedge
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exactly

signal aspen
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and monsters

young wedge
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and dragon x cars

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was it trucks?

half zephyr
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anyways, I love theseus cuz he makes me laugh, I love Than cuz he's than and I loved that deity long before the game existed hehe
Meg I like cuz she's fun to fight & her dialogue is cool~

And Dusa is my platonic soul mate with the best hair ever

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🐍

signal aspen
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bouldy has better hair

half zephyr
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bouldy judges you to see if you're worthy of his praise

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and either way he'll accept your offering

young wedge
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I just realized dusa is short for Medusa

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I

half zephyr
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ye

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Maid Dusa

young wedge
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I'm dumb

karmic hare
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Bouldys friendship once earned is rock solid

half zephyr
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don't worry - a lot of people took time to get there

unborn remnant
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like at least 30 hours

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so dw

signal aspen
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it didnt take me that long because i have an iq of 204

young wedge
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I want a side quest now where we get dusa a body

half zephyr
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I knew with the first interaction hehe

karmic hare
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I'm over 100 hours in and just learnt that

young wedge
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then we ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

half zephyr
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"oh, cool, they named her Dusa? aah MAID DUSA NeekoEhehe cute"

karmic hare
half zephyr
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mostly it was cuz I didn't know there were other gorgons in the game at the time & I just saw the hair

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and the name Dusa

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so, gorgon head named dusa being a maid

karmic hare
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Witch

half zephyr
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maid dusa

signal aspen
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guys i just realized that the name of the game, hades, is also the name of the greek god, hades

half zephyr
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omfg

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you're right

karmic hare
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Wait what for real

half zephyr
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🤯

karmic hare
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Best Easter egg ever

signal aspen
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yeah

young wedge
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I want a dusa side quest which we give her a body

half zephyr
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she doesn't want that though

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respect her wishes

young wedge
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I do tho

half zephyr
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her past is her past & she wants it to stay there

karmic hare
half zephyr
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she's happy as she is now

karmic hare
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Go dusadusa

half zephyr
signal aspen
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i dont have nitro

half zephyr
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are those nitro?

young wedge
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same

signal aspen
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you need nitro to use animated emojis

sleek pebble
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dusa cute!

half zephyr
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huh

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learn something new every day!

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ty for letting me know hehe

karmic hare
signal aspen
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nah its fine

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its my chinese name

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yuan zhi hong

half zephyr
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yuan zhi hong

unborn remnant
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no nitro gang

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roll out

young wedge
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it's your real name?

karmic hare
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Cool

signal aspen
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but nobody calls me by it

young wedge
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that's a cool name damn

signal aspen
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bruh its chinese

young wedge
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yes

signal aspen
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yeah man its crazy

young wedge
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It sounds like a badass villain name

half zephyr
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..

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how

signal aspen
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what

young wedge
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yuan zhi hong

karmic hare
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7"-/

signal aspen
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its a normal name

young wedge
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damn

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my name is stupid

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I want a name like Yuan zhi hong

signal aspen
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this guy just learned that chinese people have chinese names

half zephyr
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I know I'm amazed

young wedge
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I'm young ok?

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I don't know much

signal aspen
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i have changed my name to pp boy

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i think its a badass villain name

half zephyr
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I sad now

young wedge
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._.

half zephyr
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I liked looking at the Hanzi

brisk trail
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looks like i cam eback at a good time

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pp boy has finally embraced their true calling

young wedge
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exactly

signal aspen
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lmao

young wedge
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he has to undergo training to become pp man

karmic hare
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I am side kick

signal aspen
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nice

young wedge
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how do you change names?

karmic hare
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Wait one needs to be mab

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Man

signal aspen
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i will be man

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wait i messed up

karmic hare
signal aspen
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then give me your social security number

karmic hare
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Up at the top is a nickname that will be for this server only

karmic hare
signal aspen
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thank you

karmic hare
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Anything for pp man

young wedge
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I don't have*

signal aspen
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thats because i took it

karmic hare
young wedge
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ohhhh

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I don't know what's my Social Security number

signal aspen
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its on the back of the router

karmic hare
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Or underneath mine is underneath

young wedge
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I died

unborn remnant
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then the name you want

karmic hare
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/nick nick

young wedge
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ohhh I see

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halloo

signal aspen
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bro nothing changed

young wedge
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yep

signal aspen
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oh cool

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nice nickname

karmic hare
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That's really original

unborn remnant
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i like it

young wedge
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there

unborn remnant
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what is that

young wedge
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Cool name

stiff musk
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artemis my beloved

unborn remnant
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you changed your whole discord tag?

young wedge
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yep

unborn remnant
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i see

signal aspen
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thats a great name

unborn remnant
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what does it mean

signal aspen
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great name

unborn remnant
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am i getting a little trolled

signal aspen
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this is no longer hades discussion

young wedge
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switch to general right?

stiff musk
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make it hades again

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tiny vermin is a chthonic god

young wedge
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artemis is like a F tier waifu

unborn remnant
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woah there

signal aspen
stiff musk
young wedge
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Asterius is a much better waifu

stiff musk
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1 blocked message

young wedge
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I'm just kidding

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artemis is like an S at least

stiff musk
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good

signal aspen
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but dionysus has thicker thighs

young wedge
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yea

stiff musk
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dionysus pr has chicken legs

brave thicket
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resetting a run means resetting a chaos boon. and cuz i chose the wrong artifact i lost an epic strike...

stoic flame
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chaos boons are mid

golden kayak
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Finally made it past Elysium and I got immediately dunked on by hades

stoic flame
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rip

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im in the same boat

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i keep making it past elysium

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then i die

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and by keep making it i mean

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5 times

golden kayak
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Oof

vapid narwhal
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@young wedgenice name

brisk trail
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rail doesnt need anyone to advocate for it

vapid narwhal
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at a time it definitely need

buoyant merlin
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If kratos ended up in a PlayStation version of the game how would his boons work

signal aspen
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since hes the god of war im thinking about something called "doom" where your attacks that infilct the "doom" effect will cause enemies to take extra damage after 1 second

unborn remnant
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yeah

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maybe youd get an attack buff

brisk trail
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i was thinking he could give you something like a spin attack, sorta like guan yu but a bit different

buoyant merlin
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Some sort of risk reward mechanic would be fitting I think

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There could be neat dialogue with him and ares of course

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With ares just being cool and collected while kratos is yelling at him

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“I don’t even know who you are”

brave thicket
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||Is there another ending after the reunion of the three?||

static stirrup
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I had an epiphany this morning:
Zagerus is the child of the god of death and ||the goddess of growing things||. He has blood based powers. Zag is clearly the ||god of menstruation||.

cerulean ferry
stiff musk
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@static stirrup

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do not speak

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😊

brisk trail
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i agree

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to be clear, i agree with you not speaking

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not the original statement

unreal atlas
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Is there an achievement for dying in every possible way?

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Also, Achievements on Console Version.

brave thicket
cerulean ferry
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|| Yeah that's the epilogue ||

brave thicket
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how do you get that epilogue? ||Hades phase 3?||

cerulean ferry
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|| Nope. Gotta max out at least 6 of the Gods (if you get Demeter to the lock that counts towards that as well), max out your bond with Persephone and I think Hades as well ||

brave thicket
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oh, i still need maxed out Persephone bond

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180 hours and still no max perse

quiet lily
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you know what hurt?

signal aspen
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what

quiet lily
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||I got epilogue not expecting to just be let go and I had enough Obols to buy the diamond from Charon in the Styx and I chose not to, since I felt like I needed the damage boost for Hades granted from the Hammer for having alot of Obols||

signal aspen
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epilogue?

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also yeah that hurts

quiet lily
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||so my Obols were hoarded for nothing in the end, I could have bought the diamond and proceeded.||

signal aspen
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rip

quiet lily
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also, what are the odds of getting 3 duo boons to choose from at once?

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the perk that increases those odds was not active at the time.

signal aspen
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idk

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you can read this

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it tells you how the game determines what boons you get

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and this

brisk trail
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Have they announced any planned updates yet?

signal aspen
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the devs are taking a break so there wont be any new content for the game for a while

wild rivet
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man i wish there was an artbook for the game like. i'm going into concept design (haven't decided whether i wanna do environments or characters yet) and like. all the environments and character designs in hades are just chefs_kiss

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(i know artbooks take a lot of time to put together and all that i am just. Looking Respectfully at even just the possibility of one)

astral swift
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The closest is the individual artists' twitter pages and the character art book that comes with the physical release as far as I know

fast wind
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I wish my job just let me have a break lol

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Nope, we’re working on stuff for 2022 already 😭

waxen solstice
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Whether I'm at work or not, I'm a shut-in workaholic.

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I take breaks from working to work on other stuff, but it's always work

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I can't even play Stardew Valley or Minecraft without min-maxing everything and turning it into an art/engineering project 👀

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I think that's why Hades is so good for me. I can put in all the planning and meta strats and intense effort I want, but it's over in half an hour and it makes me start over

half zephyr
signal aspen
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No

crude surge
chilly sonnet
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In your opinions what are like the top 3 voice performances

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In no particular order I gotta pick Zagreus Hades (of course) and Dionysus

quaint wind
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hypnos hermes and meg

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though yeah dionysus is also pretty good

brisk trail
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meg is really good

unreal atlas
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Dusa, Artemis, and Alecto are also very good

brisk trail
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Courtney Vineys had Cyrus on her stream once and he sounds nothing like any of his three characters.

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dusa and meg for sure, as for the third idk

unreal atlas
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Dusa Meg Than

brisk trail
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the trio

unreal atlas
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(No reason)

signal aspen
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Hmm

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im still amazed that the voice actor for chaos made all of those effects with their voice

unreal atlas
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Asterius and Theseus really work too

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I'd be hard pressed to find a VA I didn't like in this game

signal aspen
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What about bouldy

unreal atlas
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Okay, final three: Bouldy, Charon and Cerberus

compact badger
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Is it weird that I like Nyx? failbag
Also Poseidon and Achilles

signal aspen
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No

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The voice acting for all the characters are great

unreal atlas
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At this rate we're just going to name every character in the game, and rightly so

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Patroclus

delicate ember
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NGL zagreus voice actor should read audiobooks

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It's a very clean nice sounding voice and the accent is perfect for an audio book

signal aspen
brisk trail
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"It was the best of times, and let me tell you, it was also the worst of times, boyo."

uncut dagger
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"Call me Ishmael, boyo"

signal aspen
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Lmao

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I would do anything to hear skelly read moby richard

delicate ember
uncut dagger
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commission Darren to read the entirety of Moby Johnson as Skelly

delicate ember
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Can't even say Moby D*ick

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Lmao

ashen nova
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Too lewd

uncut dagger
signal aspen
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😳

unreal atlas
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ASMR: Nyx reads you a bedtime story

ashen nova
astral swift
unreal atlas
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It was a cold summer night, or day, and the sundials were striking thirteen.

signal aspen
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The sundials were what

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The last time I checked it was 7:48

desert tangle
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hi guys, ive got about 100 hours in hades atm and i found myself burnt out of the game feeling like there was just not enough content. can anyone give me some on advice on what i can do in the game to help get back into it?

quiet lily
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Increase the heat for your runs

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or speedrun a fresh file

modern garnet
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or hellmode

desert tangle
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is hellmode harder than max heat?

crude surge
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no

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Only one person has done max heat and that was routed

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but technically you do need hellmode to do max heat because it has a bonus heat thing

quiet lily
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do the icons for maxing out bonds with characters do anything to buff the keepsakes or no?

modern garnet
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nop

crude surge
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it does in spirit squirtyay

delicate rivet
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I guess technically you cannot get “max heat” without hell mode on. But the hell mode thing that turns off brief immunity makes things a lot harder

chrome wharf
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Aphrodite just offered me a 69% damage buff

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thank you

uncut dagger
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from the goddess of the funny number

pulsar bloom
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hey guys how tall is zagreus

brisk trail
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About as tall as Theseus.

uncut dagger
pulsar bloom
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damn

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ur probably right

uncut dagger
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I'm always right, I have 15 Subscribers on YouTube

buoyant merlin
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does anyone know if hangover damage stacks with chaos boons?

hollow hawk
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stacks with chaos? @buoyant merlin what do you mean

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It doesn't increase with the chaos attack% boons, if thats what you're saying

crude surge
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If you have hangover, lightning, doom, etc, on your attack it will not get buffed by attack boosts like cyclops jerky or chaos

buoyant merlin
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damn

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It doesn't stack just the normal attack?

young wedge
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hey guys

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is a 19 min run good?

uncut dagger
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well it's better than my record

young wedge
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18:59.35

uncut dagger
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so in my standards I'll go with a resounding yes

young wedge
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yeaa

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Arthur with Aphro is OP

peak zealot
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Ok chat.... Zag sword + 30% attack + flurry hammer + gold hammer + athena attack + athena dash...... This build is so dumb

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heading into styx with 4K gold

young wedge
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how do you do the Queen's plan?

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just give nectar to the olympians?

uncut dagger
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yeah pretty much

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something about forming bonds with 6 of them

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I dunno

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I just formed bonds until it all worked out

young wedge
#

which 6 tho?

peak zealot
#

You have to form bonds with every god you can do so with

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so, the 6 you can manage

young wedge
#

ohh I see

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Imma just trade all my keys for nectar

uncut dagger
#

fair

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I did that too

young wedge
#

do you have to give ambrosia to unlock the last heart thing

peak zealot
#

yes

#

you will need 6 ambrosia for the gods

uncut dagger
#

yeah

young wedge
#

should I use 2 diamonds for ambrosia then

buoyant merlin
#

to progress hearts yes, if there's a lock you need to trigger certain dialogue or something

young wedge
#

I used all my ambrosia for meg and dusa

uncut dagger
#

if you want to

peak zealot
#

you should be able to get back the ambrosia you gave to dusa

uncut dagger
#

I recommend raising heat to get Ambrosia naturally but whatever floats your boat

young wedge
peak zealot
#

ya, start doing heat runs. The first 10 heat is basically free anyway

uncut dagger
#

don't you dare take that offer from Dusa I will resent you forever /j

young wedge
#

there's no drawbacks tho right?

peak zealot
#

EM3 + TD2 is free

uncut dagger
#

no drawbacks

peak zealot
#

Like, 10 heat is easier than 0 heat

young wedge
uncut dagger
#

0 Heat is too easy

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I get sloppy

peak zealot
#

TD2 is 28 minutes for the run. Its way more than enough time. Keep in mind that the timer stops whenever you are in menus or between floors.

young wedge
peak zealot
#

And EM3 makes the first couple bosses harder but it makes the third boss easier to kill. so on net, I think it makes the run slightly easier

#

since the first 2 bosses are so much easier than third boss to begin with

#

I like all the weapons. They are all good. Use what you like

uncut dagger
#

yeah whatever makes you comfortable

peak zealot
#

If you want aspects that work at low level, Aspect of poseidon does what you need it to at lvl 1

young wedge
#

I normally use arthur or rama

uncut dagger
#

do that

peak zealot
#

Arthur is great too. I can't remember rama off the top of my head

void vigil
#

EM3 is super hard for me, I don’t know what you’re talking about... but maybe it’s because I played a lot with the fists when I tried it

uncut dagger
void vigil
#

I only use EM2 in my 20 heat runs

peak zealot
#

EM3 turns thesius into a push over that you can completely ignore. It makes the minotaur hit harder but he is just as predictable. IDK, EM3 has always felt easier than EM2 to me

uncut dagger
#

easier than EM2? nah
better for Heat? yeah I think so

young wedge
#

I just got skelly's statue

uncut dagger
#

ooh

#

the first one?

young wedge
#

yep

#

wait

#

you can learn how to play lyre?

uncut dagger
#

yeah

young wedge
#

how do you get one?

peak zealot
#

yes, just interact with the lyre 10 times or so between runs until you "learn the lyre"

#

it isn't super interesting. Just kind of happens eventually

young wedge
#

what lyre??

peak zealot
#

buy the lyre from the contractor

young wedge
#

is it in the work orders?

uncut dagger
#

yeah

#

I think it's about 2 Diamonds?

young wedge
#

I don't have it

#

It's all decorative themmes

#

themes*

uncut dagger
#

oh it's in the bedroom

#

bedroom orders

young wedge
#

yep

#

it's one diamond

#

I have 11

uncut dagger
#

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuy it

young wedge
#

just interact with it 10 times right?

uncut dagger
#

10 times between runs

#

that's what Ramona said

peak zealot
#

for 20-30 runs or something

#

it takes along time

#

its a really lame quest honestly

young wedge
#

does the house decors do something?

uncut dagger
#

yeah...

young wedge
#

the ones that costs diamonds

uncut dagger
#

well they're just decor

#

I think the bats give you a zoomed out view of the House

peak zealot
#

some of the cosmetics do 'stuff' but none of it really affects your runs

young wedge
#

oh should I buy it or not then?

peak zealot
#

what is it?

young wedge
#

the disco thing

peak zealot
#

If it does something, I can't remember what

young wedge
#

and the paintings

peak zealot
#

Just get my second ever perfect hades fight. No damage.

#

Turns out, flurry hammer + money hammer + zag aspect + 30% attack speed + athena attack + athena dash is pretty stronk

#

Unrelated. My lounge seems to be broken. I was never given the chance to buy the secret lounge entrance on this file. I'm not sure why. Is there something I need to do to unlock it?

young wedge
#

is aspect of gilga bad?

peak zealot
#

I don't think it is. It is unique in that it enables dash builds.

unreal atlas
#

maim is generally considered bad, but having the extra dashes is what really makes it shine

#

it's just Hermes' single best boon for free

young wedge
#

what boons is good for gilga?

#

I'm thinking of doing Ares+athena

#

not sure tho

unreal atlas
#

the Dash you take reaaaaaally matters since you'll be using it a lot more than any other weapon

modern garnet
#

which is to say, use poseidon dash

peak zealot
#

Poseidon dash is the strongest dash

#

if you want to build around your dash, you can take poseidon, zeus or ares

unreal atlas
#

Blade Dash can be good too - Anything but Divine or Hunter really (Athena or Artemis)

peak zealot
#

blade dash = ares dash

unreal atlas
#

Posiedon is just raw damage though

#

That being said, you'll want Dash-Strike damage from Chaos if you can get it

peak zealot
#

poseidon dash is insane raw damage and a potent status effect. Its very strong in general, especially on aspect of gilga

unreal atlas
#

Rupture is just good in general

peak zealot
#

I don't think dash -striking is all that important. it doesn't add that much damage compared to just poseidon dash and you lose all your invul frames

unreal atlas
#

probably my second favourite status after Marked

#

I'm not saying take Artemis Dash, just Chaos Lunge

peak zealot
#

ya, and I'm saying you are better off with health, money, or rarity from chaos when it comes to aspect of gilgamesh runs

unreal atlas
#

it's better on Enkidu than most other weapons

unreal atlas
#

does Dash-Strike damage affect Maim damage? It should.

peak zealot
#

it affects your dash uppercut, but nothing affects maim damage. (other than the switch bug)

#

I really hope the game gets a DLC patch at some point and a balance patch for the dashes

unreal atlas
#

as a single-player game, I doubt balance is that much of a concern

#

there are always going to be some strats that are better than others, and the amount of control you have over your environment means you can make them happen with some reliability

peak zealot
#

I get that, and I think balance is mostly fine. I just don't like how imballanced the dashes are. Poseidon is OP and caries a run by itself. Ares and zeus dash can get there with support. Athena dash is solid utility. Artemis dash is fine on some weapons. The rest of the dashes are trash

#

And this is a primary slot boon. Having half the gods have a trash primary slot seems like a bad thing to me

#

Like, special and attack buffs aren't this varied.

#

The game wouldn't be made worse by giving demeter, dionysis, and aphrodite dashes a buff

unreal atlas
#

Drunk Dash is just a harder-to-use version of Blade Dash with less payout

peak zealot
#

Yep, and it has anti synergy with all of dio's other drunk effects

#

though maybe that is an issue that should be resolved seperately

unreal atlas
#

but it's honestly the only Primary Dio boon I'd take on a heavy weapon like Excalibur, except maybe Call

#

how does it actively make other Hangover boons worse?

peak zealot
#

I think its totally ok for a gods boons to be bad on some weapons and good on other weapons. Arthur is also bad with zeus boons, this doesn't make zues boons bad

unreal atlas
#

I feel like Dionysus as a whole needs a bit of a rework.

peak zealot
#

It is anti synergy with hangover boons because hangover effects overwrite previous effects. So if you put 5 special stacks on an enemy and then hit them with dash, the dash hangover overwrites the special hangover

#

and usually the dash hangover is lower damage

unreal atlas
#

I figured the highest damage took priority

#

that's how Doom works

peak zealot
#

Nope, its most recent

unreal atlas
#

why

peak zealot
#

I don't know

unreal atlas
#

does the most recent overwrite higher-damage stacks?

peak zealot
#

yes

unreal atlas
#

I feel like lower damage overwriting higher is actually a glitch - as I said, Doom doesn't do that

peak zealot
#

OVerall, I think dio is fine. Primary boons work on some weapons, are bad on others which, I think is fine. And dio has the best supporting boons in the game.

#

But I think dio dash needs work

unreal atlas
#

or maybe it is just the most recent for Doom too

peak zealot
#

I'm not sure for doom

#

Doom might be 'oldest takes priority' since it would mean more triggers

versed zinc
#

still waiting for update residentzag

unreal atlas
#

since there's not that many circumstances under which you'd take two different Doom appliers, it doesn't matter that much

#

Reapplying it overwrites the damage but keeps the same timer (source: a recent Curse of Longing run)

peak zealot
#

honestly, dio dash should probably just make a festive fog and deal some damage.

#

Even though that feels like copying ares kind of, I'd be ok with it

unreal atlas
#

I support this idea

#

even if Fog boons are few and far between

#

it'd make Fog a more common take, since Trippy Shot is so hard to use effectively for most players

peak zealot
#

Aphro dash just should deal more damage. Demeter dash should make a bigger projectile to be easier to hit with (and maybe deal more damage)

#

or alternatively, make aphrodash trigger at start and end of dash to make it more unique

void vigil
#

aphrodite's dash used to be the most powerful dash in the game in early access, iirc it used to deal damage both at the start of the dash and at the end of it and i think it used to deal more damage too

unreal atlas
#

Make Aphro do damage in the same pattern as Athena

peak zealot
#

well, at the moment, it applies status and that is it. Its damage might as well be 0

unreal atlas
peak zealot
#

Yes, which is why they need to be buffed or redesigned

unreal atlas
peak zealot
#

cursed attacks?

unreal atlas
#

Ares strike/special

#

Dio's entire pool deserves a major rework tbh (Passives aside)

peak zealot
#

I strongly disagree on ares. Doom deals more damage than you think and merciful end makes doom effects insane. If demeter/dio/aphro dashes had boons available that made them function effectively, I'd be fine with them. As is, they deal basically no damage and get basically no support from other boons

unreal atlas
#

Doom shouldn't need Merciful End specifically to be good

peak zealot
#

It doesn't need merciful end.

unreal atlas
#

it's just very situational without it, really.

peak zealot
#

I agree that doom kind of feels bad to use. But it just objectively isn't bad. It provides similar damage increases to other attack/special boons on most weapons when people do tests with mods to track damage

unreal atlas
#

yeah, the amount it feels like it does can be very different from the amount it does

peak zealot
#

It just feels bad to have to wait for damage.

#

it is good damage though

#

and merficul end makes it insane damage

unreal atlas
#

even so, there's very few weapons where I'd go for it unprompted and without already having Athena

peak zealot
#

IDK, I personally think the Attack/specials are all in a fine place. I could see an argument for buffing hangover effects slightly, but even that doesn't feel super necessary to me. The dashes are the only primary slot where it seems like some gods have vastly better boons than other gods, across all weapons.

unreal atlas
#

Dashes are just such an integral part of gameplay that any power differences are magnified tenfold

#

Casts and Calls are different enough from each other that they're useful in different situations and none are that much more powerful than any other

peak zealot
#

Ya, and then there are dashes. Posiedon dash and Aphro dash have the same damage pattern, but posiedon dash deals twice as much damage, has way more supporting boons, and has a larger damage radius. Its crazy imbalanced compared to attack/special/cast/call variance

unreal atlas
#

there's not that much difference between dashes in terms of how they work, so the power difference becomes that much more apparent

peak zealot
#

attacks/specials alson't don't have that much difference in how they work, but the variance is a lot smaller too.

unreal atlas
#

the variance in Strike and Flourish boons comes from the Infernal Arms themselves.

#

there's still some that are almost objectively better for certain weapons (such as, again, Posei giving so much more raw damage than anyone else), but the spread of weapons gives each a place where it shines

peak zealot
#

Poseidon special gives a good %damage buff. Poseidon attack is a realtively bad attack buff. And even then, it still has a roll on some builds because knockback is unique

unreal atlas
#

oh, Tempest actually gives a smaller buff than Heartbreak. I don't know why I thought it was the largest.

#

actually, between the four damage-scaling strike/special gods, there's not that much variance.

peak zealot
#

5 gods you mean? and ya, not much variance at all

unreal atlas
#

ah, skipped over Artemis. Artemis' buff seems really small but Crits really make it shine, especially since... they do multiply all other damage buffs, right?

#

Also, Hunter's Mark. Best Boon in the entire game.

peak zealot
#

ya. Artemis buffs are midling without other damage buffs. With other damage buffs, artemis is the highest expected damage, followed by aphro, followed by the rest in varying order, but things get pushed around depending on supporting boons and stuff

#

and then dio, zeus and ares have a different pattern all together and aren't easily comparable

unreal atlas
#

Artemis would probably be the single best for Hades Spear, since it multiplies the 250% damage rather than the 100%

peak zealot
#

Its also good on attack with achilles spear though achilles spear tends to be cast based. Of course, artemis attack (and poseidon dash) opens up a potent duo boon for cast builds

#

so it all synergizes nicely

brisk trail
#

doom depends on the weapon but it can be rly good on its own

#

poseidon attack is terribad unless you slap seastorm on it

unreal atlas
#

The "stay the hell away from me" powers can be nice, as well as the Wall Slam damage in earlier chambers

#

Also Body Slam, whatever that means

brisk trail
#

splashing can be fun but the dmg is just so bad

ashen nova
#

Splashing is fun until you get to a boss

unreal atlas
#

I guess there's a reason there's a boon specifically for "knockback is better against Bosses"

stoic flame
#

the poseidon special with zeus shield is bussin

half zephyr
#

That’s one of the worst combos

#

You want Zeus shield with Zeus or Artemis or so

#

Not something that knocks the enemies away

#

Poseidon attack is neat though - can knock enemies into the beyblade of doom

half zephyr
#

Normally on beyblade it makes support fire shoot out arrows all the time cuz the disc is always hitting enemies hehe

stoic flame
#

i had a good build that run so maybe thats why i was liking it

#

i had the rupture boon as well

#

and on attack i had the dio attack

signal aspen
#

on zeus shield you should just do zeus squared

#

its a lot better than that

stoic flame
#

i see

#

i like zeus shield better than chaos tho

#

maybe because my chaos is just level 1 so i cant really tell the difference bw it and normal

signal aspen
#

yeah

#

chaos doesnt work well at a low level

stoic flame
#

spear is fun to play but i suck at it

#

those self exploding small cart things end me in elysium

#

with a spear

signal aspen
#

rip

half zephyr
#

They explode on their own

#

Or use the spear special if you really want to attack them (normal special) as that’ll just be a ranged attack & they’ll be dead before they can reach you bunnygirlroll

stoic flame
#

they explode on their own yes

#

but when they are on me

signal aspen
#

they explode when they hit something

#

so dash through some stuff

stoic flame
#

ah

#

okay

half zephyr
#

Dash dash dash away~

#

Watch them go boom

stoic flame
#

should i use the extra dash buff from the mirror instead of the dodge one?

#

im using the dodge one rn

signal aspen
#

yes

stoic flame
#

okay

tame bluff
#

how many clears until persephone is back at the house?

signal aspen
#

10

young wedge
#

wait you can play without heat???

signal aspen
#

???

#

yes

#

you didnt know that

young wedge
#

I didn't know that

signal aspen
#

how

young wedge
#

I thought you have to always play with heat

signal aspen
#

thats only on hell mode

young wedge
#

I was researching about the themes and one of the comments was playing the game with no heat

#

You can't get titan blood without heat tho right?

signal aspen
#

you can get titan blood with no heat

#

only once per weapon tho

young wedge
#

oh

#

I think I've played no heat once but didn't notice or smnth

#

I can't get titan blood with the sword

signal aspen
#

bruh

young wedge
#

dionysus boon is good with beo right?

signal aspen
#

the cast yeah

tame bluff
#

does Lasting Consequences scale up the demerit on Cthonic Vitality?

young wedge
#

can you still do the task with beo (the one where you reach hades fight with beo) without heat?

signal aspen
#

yes

young wedge
#

ohhhh

signal aspen
#

you have to make it to the hades fight

young wedge
#

yoooo

#

I love dionysus broo

#

he gave me purple cast right at the beginning

signal aspen
#

his cast is always purple

young wedge
#

wait really?

signal aspen
#

yeah

young wedge
#

I mean the common, rare, epic thing

signal aspen
#

yeah i know

#

im just saying

#

his cast is always purple

young wedge
#

ohhh I see

signal aspen
#

i havent seen a red festive fog

young wedge
#

I don't use cast

signal aspen
#

what

young wedge
#

I almost never use my cast

signal aspen
#

why

young wedge
#

I always forget to use it

signal aspen
#

why

young wedge
#

I just spam attack

signal aspen
#

why

young wedge
#

and sometimes special

signal aspen
#

what weapons do you play

young wedge
#

sword, bow, shield

signal aspen
#

you should use your casts with those weapons

young wedge
#

I always forget to use it

signal aspen
#

what aspects do you like

young wedge
#

arthur with sword, rama with bow, zeus with shield

signal aspen
#

arthur and rama both benefit from boiling blood

#

idk why you wouldnt use it

young wedge
#

Idk I think it's useless ig

signal aspen
#

bruh

#

its 50% extra damage

young wedge
#

ohhh

#

really?

signal aspen
#

...

young wedge
#

I thought it was just like a long ranged attack

signal aspen
#

no

#

there is a mirror upgrade

young wedge
#

there is?

signal aspen
#

that makes enemies take 50% extra damage from your attack and special when they have a cast in them

#

its the second thing you unlock

#

when you use keys for the mirror

young wedge
#

ohhh

#

I just click things

signal aspen
#

bruh

#

what

#

what does your mirror look like

young wedge
#

I just copied the mirror I found on google

signal aspen
#

what

#

so what does that mirror look like

young wedge
#

wait I'm doing a run

signal aspen
#

bruh

tame bluff
#

wtf

#

why does charon have a light saber

signal aspen
#

thats his oar

#

the devs made it purple so you could see it i guess

young wedge
#

is it even worth it to fight charon?

signal aspen
#

no

cerulean ferry
#

Not really lol

signal aspen
#

i only fight charon in elysium if he gives me bad stuff

tame bluff
#

does he always have the same hp?

signal aspen
#

yes

worn tulip
#

Will i have to fight every boss ive defeated again if i die

signal aspen
#

yes

#

its a roguelite

worn tulip
#

But then how come i dont see the skeleton guys anymore

cerulean ferry
#

Random

#

Minibosses are random

young wedge
#

It's random

worn tulip
#

Oh

#

Oof

stoic flame
#

u can see if the next room is a mini boss if there is a small skull below the reward thing

young wedge
#

hey guys should I get broken resolve or empty inside?

signal aspen
#

whats the third option

young wedge
#

heartbreak strike

#

I already have aphro special

signal aspen
#

oh

#

empty inside

tame bluff
#

how do you guys remember the boon names thanthink

signal aspen
#

big brain

stoic flame
#

10k hours on the game ez

tame bluff
#

massive

young wedge
#

galaxy brain

#

observable universe brain

hallow gate
#

I only have 100 hours and I got the game in January

young wedge
#

aphro in the trial of gods is so annoying

signal aspen
#

yeah

young wedge
#

My ranking for the fury sisters is Meg > Tisiphone > Alecto

#

Alecto's rage is annoying

#

I can easily deal with meg and tisiphone

signal aspen
#

kill her

tame bluff
#

alecto > tisiphone for me

signal aspen
#

same

young wedge
#

I always accidentally step on the traps

signal aspen
#

but i dont like the small room

#

the only thing i hate about alecto is her beyblades

#

thats it

young wedge
#

I actually likes the small room

#

maybe because I always use the sword

#

I can easily kill tisiphone with a few hits

stoic flame
#

tisiphone is the easiest one

simple blaze
#

alecto is hardest and meg is easiest

stoic flame
#

bro how is tisiphone harder than meg

#

the last stage is just focus on dodging because the attack will always hit

simple blaze
#

idk i’ve just always found meg to be easiest

stoic flame
#

understandable

#

alecto's room sucks

#

half the damage is those traps

young wedge
#

fricking theseus

tame bluff
#

is meg's companion the only one that doesn't cost extra materials?

young wedge
#

he insulted achilles

tame bluff
#

6 nectar 1 ambrosia?

signal aspen
#

yeah

#

thats what you need to get the companion

tame bluff
#

like all the other ones cost extra stuff for the favour right

signal aspen
#

most of them

true quartz
#

so im trying to fill out my codex and one of the things missing are those chaos gate fish.
any advice on how to get them a bit quicker? ive only caught 2 matis so far

signal aspen
#

get good rng

#

and take every chaos gate you see

void vigil
#

If you see the skeletal lure in a well in a room with a chaos gate, buy it before going in, it will spawn a fishing spot

#

You could also reroll for a lure in rooms with chaos gates and wells

#

Good luck with filling out the codex!

true quartz
waxen sedge
signal aspen
#

nice

stiff musk
#

not even close

waxen solstice
#

So, does anyone have any honest complaints about the game? I've been thinking about it for a few days now, and.. I'm not sure I can't really think of any, and that's not even true of any of my other favorite games.

chrome wharf
#

Chinese font too small

waxen solstice
#

I can name just a couple minor things that I think could be improved

chrome wharf
#

and a lot of the short lines during room transitions weren't translated well

signal aspen
chrome wharf
#

Like, whoever did them either didn't get the context or didn't speak English conversationally

waxen solstice
# chrome wharf Chinese font too small

This is actually one of them. I'm playing on my Switch, in handheld. The UI elements are way too small in some cases, like the armored enemies additional perks from the Pact

#

I won't fault the developers for localization errors, at least in terms of flawed design

brisk trail
#

my main complaint is that its too grindy in the beginning

#

getting to the meat of the gameplay takes a while

chrome wharf
#

yeah for these games I just go "they're indie"
The Chinese boon names are great tho imo

#

yeah and once you're good enough to get stuck on the last 2 bosses, the front bit gets a bit repetitive

waxen solstice
#

Was it grindy? I didn't feel that, I didn't even mind dying because of how much there was to do between each run. Maybe I'll replay it from the beginning and think it over again.

chrome wharf
#

I jokingly call it "hollow knight pantheon with extra steps"

brisk trail
#

personally I wasnt a fan of ending and epilogue I expected more, but maybe that came from having played through early acess long before the game finished

#

getting darkness for the mirror and blood for weaps def takes rly long

#

I did not enjoy the first few hours of gameplay at all for how limited your kit was

signal aspen
#

my honest complaint is that there is too much dialogue in the game, i would like to see something other than words

waxen solstice
#

Early access I think can alter an opinion of the final product. I started a couple months ago, and I'm on run 128 now? I'm surprised there's still story content left for me, this game had more post-credits content for me than not.

chrome wharf
#

yeah the fourth wall breaking can do with some spacing out

brisk trail
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yeah the rest of the story just ended up being a tacked on extra to me

tame bluff
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area transition not skippable

brisk trail
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oh well whatever

waxen solstice
brisk trail
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hades dialouge when you start a run not being skippable

tame bluff
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yea what's with that

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M E S S

brisk trail
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it does get annoying with many runs in

tame bluff
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who cares

waxen solstice
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I assume the the unskippable portions mask load times, especially for weak hardware like the Switch. Maybe it's unskippable across the board for consistency?

brisk trail
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idk what you mean by area transition tho

waxen solstice
tame bluff
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like moving from tartarus to asphodel

waxen solstice
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The map screen dotted line animation

brisk trail
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but the transition areas are important

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for gameplay

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also about masking load times, I wouldn't say so since it doesnt always trigger

polar gazelle
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Hey all, I have an interactive website for tracking boons. Which channel would be good to post it in?

waxen solstice
chrome wharf
brisk trail
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that has to be switch

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on pc thats def not the case

tame bluff
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im pretty sure the narrator is zeus

brisk trail
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if they wanted to mask the load times they would put the hades dialouge in front of every run, no?

signal aspen
chrome wharf
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The load times aren't that long on switch, at least on my later model

tame bluff
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then is it hades?

brisk trail
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its a mystery

signal aspen
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yeah the narrator is a different character

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"character"

tame bluff
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oh i assumed it was zeus because zagreus always says "old man"

polar gazelle
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Sounds good thanks!

waxen solstice
# brisk trail on pc thats def not the case

That's true, but if it's decided to be unskippable on PC, it's a change they don't have to account for when they port it. I think they tried to make every version as similar as possible to make porting as automatic as they could. Even the menu button with the red arrow, like you see in charon's wells or other menus is present on Switch even though you can't use it, you just press B to back out of shops

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I do agree it would be better if they accounted for those differences between versions. I'm not excusing it, just explaining what I think happened

brisk trail
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I mean its not a mystery to me why x thing is not here: because it takes a lot of time and effort to make a game

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other than that I have some irks with high heat stuff but well most of the playerbase doesnt go through that anyway

waxen solstice
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But I know I'm in the minority of people, being determined to hear everything

half zephyr
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It tends to just happen on its own

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When you play enough

brisk trail
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I think I just enjoyed the story through and then kept playing for gameplay so it wasnt an issue for me

half zephyr
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My problem is that I read too fast & I’m very impatient by nature so having to wait to listen to the dialogue gets annoying since I’ve already read it by that point ia_think_thonk

void vigil
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once you get good at the game, hypnos is a character who you wont see a lot of dialogue from because a lot of his dialogue is when you die to enemies. i recently died to an enemy i havent died to before and got new dialogue

half zephyr
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But that’s very much a me problem

void vigil
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but i dont want to go around dying to every enemy just to see it all... shadegrief

brisk trail
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honestly I skipped out on all the 1.0 exclusive dialouges bc I didnt care anymore

chrome wharf
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I have the reading too fast problem too which is why I initially played in chinese, to make myself listen to the dialogue in full

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but ended up being too impatient anyway

tame bluff
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is it weird if you never beat hades and just keep farming bounties 1-3 on heat?

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or something like that

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just hypothetically

quartz garden
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you can do that with every weapon for 0 heat and 1 heat. When going for 2 heat whilst 1 heat bounties aren‘t completed you will get darkness instead of the bounties you already got until you get the last bounty and fully complete 1 heat bounties

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I hope this somehow makes sense to you, non-native speaker here

buoyant merlin
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Lots of these Zagreus aspects need buffs

signal aspen
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which ones

buoyant merlin
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Spear, sword, shield

signal aspen
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i agree with spear and sword

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but zag aspect shield is good

buoyant merlin
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It’s ok but I feel like spinning yellow shield is just so much better

signal aspen
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yeah

buoyant merlin
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Especially against a stationary boss like hydra

signal aspen
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yeah aspect of zeus is my favorite shield aspect

stoic flame
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same