h1-discussion

[uncut dagger]

eh, not really

[tribal mulch]

man, this game is really sad when you think about it

pers can never return to the underworld or else there would be no game

theres no happy ending

and zag cant stay on the surface

also no game

[mossy finch]

moobie how many times have u beaten hades?

[tribal mulch]

like 8 now

[mossy finch]

get to 10

[tribal mulch]

oh?

[signal aspen]

persephone cant return to the underworld?

[mossy finch]

10 is happy ending :)

[tribal mulch]

well at least from what she just told me, she doesnt want to

but also if she did

[signal aspen]

oh

[tribal mulch]

there would be no game to play

zag would have no reason to leave

[signal aspen]

hmm

[cerulean ferry]

So who's gonna tell em

[tribal mulch]

wow thanatos is kinda mean

[mossy finch]

thanatos is best boyf

[tribal mulch]

maybe its because im doing his job better than him when we meet?

[mossy finch]

just give him lots of nectar

you will make him happy

[tribal mulch]

eh

the only two people i want to get to 100% on are dusa and charon

charon was my first

love that guy

[mossy finch]

ive forged a bond with orpheus and skelly so far

[cerulean ferry]

As you should lol

[tribal mulch]

Orpheus needs it

[void vigil]

gotta forge a bond with everyone for that sweet 100% completion

[mossy finch]

tru tru

ive mostly been trying to average out every's relationships rn

[uncut dagger]

dat sweet seet 100%

[mossy finch]

get them to nearly completion then just complete them 1 by 1

[tribal mulch]

skelly is like the most mysterious person in the game right?

i cant think of anyone else i know less about

[mossy finch]

nah not near the end of the game

well "end"

[void vigil]

ill never have true 100% because i struggle with 20 heat on some weapons

[uncut dagger]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
yeah I think you got it right there

[tribal mulch]

the only two hiddens im missing is fists and shields

[void vigil]

so i drop the game and when i come back im bad at it again LOL

[signal aspen]

for now

[tribal mulch]

uh oh

i think so far excalibur is my favorite hidden aspect

[signal aspen]

guan yu best aspect

[mossy finch]

im unlocking excalibur rn, looks cool

[tribal mulch]

since i can get stupid damage and 200 hp right off the bat

[void vigil]

excalibur is sooo good and so fun

[tribal mulch]

excalibur is broken

[mossy finch]

getting the satyr sack on one of ur first rooms always makes me sad, i dont want to enter any other rooms incase i lose a lot of hp, but then i lose rewards lmao

[tribal mulch]

saaaamee

[void vigil]

i got all the sword bounties with artemis on it, i dont think i can play regular swords now

[mossy finch]

i just got it on my 2nd room haha

[tribal mulch]

so what does the aspect of gilgamesh and beowulf actually do?

[signal aspen]

beowulf can load your casts into your bullrush, and at the end of your bullrush the casts explode

[tribal mulch]

oooo

[mossy finch]

oh so its like the bow aspect?

[tribal mulch]

like hera?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[void vigil]

but you take 10% more damage, right?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[void vigil]

worth it. its pretty fun

[signal aspen]

gilgamesh can maim enemies with its dash upper, maimed enemies deal 50% more damage to you but take 25% extra damage

[tribal mulch]

LMAO i havent beaten the game with fists at 0 heat but i have at 1

[signal aspen]

nice

0 heat too hard

[tribal mulch]

that seems like not that useful

[signal aspen]

ye its bad

[void vigil]

it has an extra dash though, doesnt it

[signal aspen]

2+ dashes

it also makes your attack slower but deal more damage, and your dash attacks extremely weak

[void vigil]

i havent really played a lot of it because i like zag aspect too much

[tribal mulch]

hm

the base one?

[void vigil]

yep!

[signal aspen]

zag aspect is a lot better than gilgamesh

[tribal mulch]

really?

why is that?

[void vigil]

cant go wrong with dodge chance

[tribal mulch]

ah

i was really hoping i could get the 3-burst infinite ammo on the gun on lucifer

i was disappointed

[signal aspen]

you can still get an infinite ammo hammer on lucifer

[tribal mulch]

yeah but no ramp

[signal aspen]

ye

[tribal mulch]

the best part of lucifer

what does extreme measures do to Lernie and the duo?

[modern garnet]

Lernie's neck no longer binds him, he can float around and bite you

[signal aspen]

for lernie it changes the map and brings the heads closer together

[tribal mulch]

whaaaa

thats actually kinda cool

[modern garnet]

And asterius gets a rocket hammer

[signal aspen]

and for the duo theseus gets a chariot with rockets and a machine gun and runs around the map shooting you

[tribal mulch]

...

he what

that just seem so stupid

[cerulean ferry]

Asterius becomes a beyblade

[tribal mulch]

THAT DOESNT EVEN SOUND FAIR

[signal aspen]

his slam attacks hit you in an aoe

[modern garnet]

It's 2 against 1, it was never fair

[tribal mulch]

well

tbf Zag is a god(?)

[signal aspen]

ye

[tribal mulch]

with the help of olympius

WAIT

[cerulean ferry]

And he gets support from like 4 Gods in a run

[tribal mulch]

IS THE BLACKSMITH ONE ON THE GAME?

i forget his name

[signal aspen]

daedalus isnt a god

[void vigil]

nope, just mentioned

[tribal mulch]

ohh him

i forgot his name

[void vigil]

hephaestus is mentioned once, but its pretty much at the "endgame"

if you can call it that

[tribal mulch]

i remember i had a total god run once

heh

god run

oh does recognize how broken aretmis's call is?

at max

[signal aspen]

arty call is great

[mossy finch]

i just got hit by the megaera x zag conversation

[signal aspen]

epic

[tribal mulch]

is it normal to have "beaten" the game like 8 times in 40 hours?

or am i just slow

[signal aspen]

yeah

everybody beats the game at different times

[brisk trail]

theres no normal ye

[cerulean ferry]

Don't compare yourself to others, just have fun

[tribal mulch]

it took me like around 31 attempts to beat it once

[mossy finch]

im on 57 attempts rn and beaten it 9 times, its different for everyone

[tribal mulch]

damn nice

[cerulean ferry]

On my first save it took me over 120 runs to get my first clear so

[mossy finch]

some are new to the genre some arent, so theres a pretty wide gap of skill

[tribal mulch]

i think im on like 80 or 90 by now

[cerulean ferry]

Istg my typos

[signal aspen]

im on run 400

[mossy finch]

ooo i just unlocked aspect of rama, it seems cool

[tribal mulch]

NOOOO I MISSED THE CHAOS GATE

[signal aspen]

rama is great

[tribal mulch]

DAMNIT

THE ONLY REASON I WENT ON THIS RUN WAS FOR THE ASPECT

[signal aspen]

rip

hit give up and get the chaos gate

[tribal mulch]

i feel like if you're gonna do darkness = healing, you have to use the darkness thirsty weapons

[signal aspen]

you dont need to get dark thirst on that but it helps a lot

[mossy finch]

it tells you if u have bonds with people in keepsakes, does that change anything?

[signal aspen]

no

[mossy finch]

o ok

[hazy ravine]

No information about latest steam paches? i was looking about it but found nothing

[signal aspen]

its most likely bug fixes

[tribal mulch]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[signal aspen]

what

[tribal mulch]

IT DIDNT EVEN SAY THE LINE

I FOUND A SECOND GATE

[signal aspen]

nice

[tribal mulch]

this cannot be on purpose

[signal aspen]

getting the correct dialogue for hidden aspects is really hard

[tribal mulch]

so i just got the chaos boon that gives a boost to gem and darkness gain

[signal aspen]

its all rng

[tribal mulch]

and the choices for next chambers are darkness and gems

what are the odds

[crude surge]

Depends on how many options are in the dialogue pool

[tribal mulch]

would chaos troll

[iron loom]

oh my god

there's no achievement for getting all achievements

[tribal mulch]

well

[iron loom]

what's worse is

[tribal mulch]

that would be a paradox no?

[iron loom]

it would be a perfect 50 achievement

[signal aspen]

ye lmao

[iron loom]

lots of games have one, wouldn't be the first

[mossy finch]

playstation has one on basically every game

[iron loom]

i ge the "uselessness" of it but

cmon man 50 achievements

[tribal mulch]

platinum right?

[mossy finch]

yup

[crude surge]

Probably the same reason there’s no achievement for 32 heat

[tribal mulch]

maybe theyre saving it for something in the future~

[tribal mulch]

is that max?

[crude surge]

Too hard for a good amount of people to clear

[iron loom]

49/49 just doesn't feel the same

[signal aspen]

nah 64 is

[crude surge]

No you just get an in game reward

It’s halfway though

[tribal mulch]

god this game's music is f$(&@)(% awesome

[cerulean ferry]

Sure is

[tribal mulch]

oh yeah what is the reward for 8🔥

other than like 3 diamonds

[cerulean ferry]

You'll see

[signal aspen]

an extremely cool statue

[tribal mulch]

thats it

[uncut dagger]

there's another hting you get in the courtyard

[mossy finch]

@tribal mulch have you brutally murdered skelly yet?

to the point of no return

[iron loom]

also only on like my 7th fight with charon i realised his fight's theme is the main theme but a trap-ish remix?

darn i guess lmao

thing bops too

[signal aspen]

well i have the music volume on 0 so probably

[tribal mulch]

wait what

[iron loom]

keep giving gifts to him and talking to him, you'll see

[mossy finch]

yes

[tribal mulch]

also does chaos appear anywhere outside of tarland or should i kill myself?

[iron loom]

honestly one of the things that made me laugh out loud the most in the whole game lmao

[mossy finch]

chaos appears everywhere except for styx

[signal aspen]

he can appear in tart, asphodel, and elysium

[iron loom]

been trying to get chaos's legendary boon but freaking thing doesn't exist apparently

[mossy finch]

skelly's pranks make the game 10/10

[iron loom]

been trying since yesterday

[signal aspen]

try harder

[cerulean ferry]

Same

[tribal mulch]

whats it do?

[signal aspen]

+1 death defiance

[iron loom]

using the egg, rerolling charons thing to try and find the thing that guarantees they spawn but its so rare omg

[tribal mulch]

._.

[mossy finch]

ooh i think i got chaos legendary boon, im checking the codex and it doesnt have the prophecy icon

[void vigil]

you should save your rerolls for your second chaos, imo

[mossy finch]

looks like i only have 2 boons left for chaos

[void vigil]

that’s how I got it iirc

[iron loom]

runs where i find chaos twice are SUPER rare like 1 in 5, 6 runs

[tribal mulch]

does quick recovery get higher than like 100% on max level?

[iron loom]

even rerolling the well

[signal aspen]

lmao no

[tribal mulch]

bruh

useless boon

[signal aspen]

its 60%

[iron loom]

imagine the possibilities tho hahahaha

[signal aspen]

and you cant pom it

[iron loom]

would be great

[narrow hemlock]

doesn't chaos legendary require you already having a chaos boon?

[iron loom]

yes

[signal aspen]

yes

[iron loom]

at least 1

[narrow hemlock]

so re rolling the first is useless anyway

[iron loom]

nah i reroll charons well

to try and guarantee chaos

[void vigil]

once you get the second one though, that’s where you should reroll

[iron loom]

but i rarely get 2 chaos's in 1 run anyway so rip

[signal aspen]

i reroll the pool of purging so i can purge all my boons

[void vigil]

To get a higher chance at a legendary

[narrow hemlock]

chaos would like to play with you a bit longer

[iron loom]

chaos's legendary boon and 3 duo boons

are all i have left, prophecy-wise

almost there

[void vigil]

rerolling a shop seems kind of useless since there are so many items it could give you

[iron loom]

merciful end / hunting blades and ice wine are SO hard to get my god

[signal aspen]

i reroll the pool of purging so i can purge all my boons

[iron loom]

the hugest brain play right here

[void vigil]

I did the duo boon prophecy when there were less duo boons... but I got less ambrosia for it so rip

Not like I’m not swimming in it now

[signal aspen]

indeed

[narrow hemlock]

i think i was like 250 hours in before i ever saw chaos legendary

[iron loom]

102 hours in rn, hope to all that's holy that i get it very soon

[void vigil]

if you’re fishing for it you’ll probably get it soon 🙏

[signal aspen]

ye it took me a while to get the legendary boon, but after i got it i started seeing it a lot more

[hollow hawk]

I dont think ive ever gotten the chaos dd

I picked it once

But then died

[signal aspen]

nice

[hollow hawk]

Because the curse was like +80% foes or something

[signal aspen]

you should just go to the item shop in hades and buy the boon

[mossy finch]

does god mode increase chance of legendary boons?

[narrow hemlock]

No

[signal aspen]

no

[hollow hawk]

No

Lol those no's

[void vigil]

It only gives you damage resistance

[mossy finch]

oh nice, like the first time i activated it i got hella legendary boons

[narrow hemlock]

god mode only increases your damage reduction, it has no affect on anything else

[iron loom]

had a really good odds run to get some of the duo boons just now

missclicked give up instead of quit

heckin -> rip

[signal aspen]

one time i got 3 duo boons in a row

[hollow hawk]

Oof

That sucks

[iron loom]

biggest f for this brain

[iron loom]

had some like this too

on styx's shop

[brisk trail]

Are you immortal in God mode?

[signal aspen]

no

[hollow hawk]

Just gives you +20% dmg reduction, and it increases by +2% every time you die, to a maximum of 80%

[brisk trail]

Oh

Cool

[iron loom]

is it possible for a "trial of the gods" boon to be duo?

[signal aspen]

no

[iron loom]

if so, is it possible for it to be a duo of the two gods present in the trial?

oh

well f then

HUNTING BLADES

FINALLY

2 duos to go

[signal aspen]

nice

[void vigil]

You’re missing merciful end, right? I find it’s pretty easy to get, just remember that athena dash is not a requirement anymore

[iron loom]

missing merciful end and ice wine still just these two

yeah only divine strike and divine flourish

got a notepad with the specifics so i dont choose the wrong ones during runs lol

[void vigil]

That’s dedication, haha

[iron loom]

3 prophecies left, got to go for it

[void vigil]

I was pretty proud of it when I managed to clear all prophecies

[signal aspen]

i currently have a build that can get you 8 duos

[void vigil]

Though, one prophecy still doesn’t appear, it’s a bug...

[iron loom]

which one?

[void vigil]

the game treated it as if I got them all though. I got the dialogue for it and all

[iron loom]

~oh my god theres dialogue for that?~

looking forward to it

[half zephyr]

there's so much dialogue in this game

[iron loom]

true

for such specific things too

yakko's video said it best

[void vigil]

the reluctant musician

it’s for freeing orpheus, but I’ve been playing since before freeing orpheus was required, so I think it’s bugged and will not appear

[iron loom]

"so many dialogue options make me feel like I've discovered some secret line of dialogue only I know about, because of how specific some of them seem to be, even though I know that lots of people have also seen it"

[void vigil]

there’s also dialogue for completing the codex

[half zephyr]

isn't there dialogue for if you get a clear on your first ever run too

[signal aspen]

and dialogue for fulfilling all prophecies

[void vigil]

I think it’s very slightly different from the usual one, yeah

[mossy finch]

i just caught a scyllascion and they look cool

[void vigil]

there’s also dialogue for maxing all bonds

[half zephyr]

and for using certain keepsakes

[void vigil]

basically, any 100% thing you do in this game is rewarded with dialogue

I don’t know about maxing all bounties because I haven’t done it yet but I’m sure there is for that

[iron loom]

just heard that one from aphrodite

also all the hades dialogue once you max extreme measures is just chef's kiss

[stiff musk]

what are the reqs for *merciful end

[signal aspen]

Nothing

It's a dash boon

[stiff musk]

i mean

merciful end

shut up

[signal aspen]

Ares attack or special and athena attack or special

[mossy finch]

using rare crop can a boon get legendary?

[brisk trail]

No.

It will reach Heroic.

[mossy finch]

aight

[brisk trail]

Duo and Legendary are outside the scaling rarity system.

[iron loom]

got ice wine just merciful end to go on the duo boons

the hugest w

also got merciful end 3 rooms later what is this luck

[mossy finch]

i finally finished the story and mmmmmm the credits song was so good

[half zephyr]

it was my fave song until em4

though that one is more of an instrumental

[mossy finch]

is em4 song the rock version

[signal aspen]

Nah it's a separate song

[half zephyr]

The Unseen Ones speaks to my soul

so to speak

[void vigil]

Almost got the onion dialogue from eurydice but orpheus was there so I got nothing 😭 😭 😭

[half zephyr]

lol

[signal aspen]

Nice

[void vigil]

pls I wanna see it

[half zephyr]

better luck next time

[signal aspen]

"ogres are like onions"

[iron loom]

laughed so much on that dialogue lmao

so good

[south comet]

why does everyone flame zag for having red blood?

every boss erupts in red blood when they die too

[uncut dagger]

except for Meg

and Theseus

I don't think the Bone Hydra has blood

also Hades

[south comet]

Hades does erupt in red blood

Pretty sure Meg does too

[uncut dagger]

I think that's an effect of the Styx

the Styx has a similar color to blood

easy to make the mistake

[south comet]

all of the fury sisters have red blood

actually idk about alecto

I barely even see her

[uncut dagger]

I don't think they do

[south comet]

they have the exact same death effect as zag

[uncut dagger]

yeah

when he gets taken by the Styx

again

similar color

[uncut dagger]

it's because I'm pretty sure he's the only God with red blood

[half zephyr]

gods blood is normally golden

that's why

they have golden ichor so zag having red blood is different

[halcyon oriole]

it's just a bit visually confusing because the styx looks like it's their blood

[stiff musk]

why does zag have red blood

[half zephyr]

possibly because of his grandfather on his mothers side (in the game at least)

idk

[stiff musk]

what grandfather

[uncut dagger]

maybe Persephone has recessive mortal genes, I dunno

[half zephyr]

ze mortal one

in the game dem has persephone w a mortal farmer or smth

[uncut dagger]

he is supposed to be the God of Life, right?
seems apt to have mortal features if you're the God of something that represents mortality

[iron loom]

just had a dialogue with hades about that he mentions the possibility of it being related to the conditions which he was born under, as well as his grandfather (human side)

[stiff musk]

i see

ok dont tell me

[half zephyr]

in the game achilles thinks he's a god of blood

[iron loom]

i dont think there is an answer? that dialogue was just hades's guess

[half zephyr]

so there's many options, up to & including "the devs wanted it that way"

[uncut dagger]

https://imgur.com/BhM3veU

this is what I found out from a Google search

[half zephyr]

ye

[unborn remnant]

oh

[half zephyr]

rebirth

[unborn remnant]

its zagreus from hades

[half zephyr]

hunting

[unborn remnant]

cant believe it

[uncut dagger]

also I think it is incredible that whenever you look up Zagreus now, you get art from Hades

[half zephyr]

mysteries too

[iron loom]

oh my god thats why there are all those lines about him joking with dio about them being the same dude hahahaha thats amazing

[half zephyr]

well, there wasn't much on Zagreus to begin with

[uncut dagger]

hunting might explain why him and Artemis have a lot of similarities

in the game, at least

[uncut dagger]

true, still admirable

[unborn remnant]

They arent that similar

[uncut dagger]

in the game?

I think they share a couple similarities

[half zephyr]

ye, in the game the myth is literally Zag & Dio pranking Orpheus & then Orphy taking it seriously

[iron loom]

yeah, and it was hilarious lmao

[uncut dagger]

they seem like they're more down-to earth and less quick to anger than their Olympic/Cthonic counterparts
they both have a distaste for their families and yearn to escape from them

[half zephyr]

they're family too

woo

hunting cousins

[uncut dagger]

hunting cousins

👍

[unborn remnant]

Yeah I guess

[iron loom]

zagreus and artemis, sitting in a tree, hunting s-a-t-y-r-s

[half zephyr]

hmmm

doesn't rhyme

[unborn remnant]

zag will never hunt on the surface

[uncut dagger]

Zagreus and Artemis, sitting in a tree
h-u-n-t-i-n-g

[half zephyr]

satyrs can be found underground at least

[unborn remnant]

if he does itll be for a very short amount of time

[half zephyr]

but trees are a bit rarer

[uncut dagger]

are trees in Elysium?

[half zephyr]

ok, I need to go sleep - still on babysitting duty & it's getting late & I just know my baby nephew will wake me up before 6 am again

[uncut dagger]

bye!

[unborn remnant]

I dont think so

elyisum is made of moss

[uncut dagger]

yeah

[unborn remnant]

at least the river is consistent

the ending makes me smile

its simply goated

[iron loom]

can you get more than one legendary boon in one run?

please say yes for all that is holy

[unborn remnant]

"Run all you like from the place you belong" pretty much sums up the whole game

[silent pumice]

Yeah, you can.

[iron loom]

oh thank god

[silent pumice]

I've gotten both Artemis' and Ares' in the same run.

Now that was a storm of swords.

[iron loom]

blade rifts all around, nice

[south comet]

does the increased damage from traps heat modifier increase the damage dealt by the green urns in the hades fight?

[iron loom]

yes

[south comet]

because I got hit by one and it did 150 damage

[iron loom]

lost a run for not knowing that lmao

[south comet]

same

[iron loom]

yeah thats what it was

[brisk trail]

Aphrodite sings that when Zag finally visits Olympus and Artemis still gets flustered.

[unborn remnant]

How do you go to Olympus?

completion bonus?

[iron loom]

you really wanna know?

big spoiler here

[brisk trail]

Oh, sorry, you don't visit Olympus.

[narrow hemlock]

it was just a joke about the topic lol the regions you see in game are all you ever visit, as zag's goal was never about getting to olympus

[uncut dagger]

now THAT'S the ending I wanted

[unborn remnant]

oh

[chilly sonnet]

On a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being base maegara and 10 being em4, how hard is em3

[simple blaze]

8

[chilly sonnet]

really? dang

[signal aspen]

It's a 7

[chilly sonnet]

dang i want that extra 3 heat for my later runs but i dont even like base theseus

[signal aspen]

Em3 Theseus is easy

Bull gets annoying

[chilly sonnet]

how is 7 easy tho

[narrow hemlock]

its mostly learning how they attack. theseus does still do his own thing for the most part, occasionally zipping through the arena

[modern garnet]

When the bull jumps at you, you gotta dodge before he lands

But in em3, you have to start dodging before he's in the air

Because his slams deal a massive aoe

[lament night]

what does em stand for

[modern garnet]

Extreme measures

Post win stuff

You gotta win to unlock it

[chilly sonnet]

Okay this is actually getting ridiculous now

I’ve ben keeping track and dark thirst lands on the shield literally every other run

Without fail

[modern garnet]

Thirsty shield

[crude surge]

thorst

[wraith ginkgo]

I defeated the final boss!

time to do that 9 more times

[crude surge]

nice

[sturdy sphinx]

gg

at least 9 more times

[livid canyon]

does Achillies spear only use for cast build

is there a good attack build for this spear

[wraith ginkgo]

what is the highest amount of hp you've had in a run. mine currently is 416

[inland shell]

Cast get the most out of singular impact uses - since the buff only lasts 4 uses of attack or cast. Lots of great Casts, but Attacks scale off speed more, unless you want to try a charge build

[livid canyon]

charge build ?

[brisk trail]

Achilles speedruns with Flurry Jab and Deadly Strike.

[livid canyon]

im listening//

[brisk trail]

You Raging Rush, hold down Attack and mash Dash a few times, then repeat.

Most of the footage I've seen only sporadically uses Raging Rush, but I feel like it could be done a little more aggressively.

[signal aspen]

The wr is like 920 hp

I've gotten 500 hp

[wraith ginkgo]

wow

[livid canyon]

um is ther eany reason my number keys doesnt work anymore in Hades

• and + still work

ah nvm it worked

[peak zealot]

ugh... why doesn't rare crop affect hermes boons?

[chilly sonnet]

Tried em3 for the first time

[peak zealot]

how did it go

[chilly sonnet]

Beat it without dying but I’m also using chaos shield with a really good build so

[peak zealot]

I generally find EM3 to be easier than runs without EM3

[chilly sonnet]

Definitely worth it. Theseus was less annoying than I thought and the constant laughing was hysterical

[south comet]

am I the only one that thinks that hades is less annoying than theseus and asterius

[chilly sonnet]

Idk how long it took to get those laughs just right but they’re amazing

[peak zealot]

Theseus gets way easier to deal with. Asterius gets a minor buff. All in all, boss fight gets easier

[chilly sonnet]

Asterius tho... I definitely would’ve gotten pounded into oblivion if I didn’t have the shield

Big meaty hits

[south comet]

asterius isn't really that hard to deal with imo

[peak zealot]

His hits are still super slow and easy to just kite

[south comet]

theseus is more annoying than asterius to me

[peak zealot]

agreed, but EM3 theseus is a push over. base theseus is much more of a threat

[south comet]

EM3?

[chilly sonnet]

Em3 Theseus is frankly easier most of the time

[south comet]

is that the modifier that buffs the bosses

[peak zealot]

ya

[chilly sonnet]

Em3 asterius seems pretty hard to 1v1

[south comet]

I haven't tried it yet

I'm still only at heat 1

[chilly sonnet]

Base Theseus is wayyyyy easier than base asterius cause he has literally two moves that are both easy to dodge

Sometimes his second phase can be annoying depending on what god he gets but most of the time it’s more than manageable

[south comet]

the only annoying thing with theseus is in his 2nd phase

by himself he's fine

but if you didn't kill the bull first then it's a really annoying fight

[peak zealot]

His second phase sucks and base theseus does a really good job of covering asterius' vulnerabilities. Base theseus snipes from off screen so much

[chilly sonnet]

I think Theseus/asterius is the boss that every beginner player despises and calls@unfair until you get better and realize that they’re not that bad

That’s how it was for me anyway

[chilly sonnet]

The 6(?) pillars make that pretty easy to avoid tho

[south comet]

I die on Hades more than I do with Theseus/Asterius

but I like the hades bossfight more

[chilly sonnet]

I don’t like hades summons

[peak zealot]

@chilly sonnet I'm aware, it is just another annoying thing to have to constantly track though. Hence "theseus is annoying"

Em3 theseus is much less annoying by comparison

[chilly sonnet]

Hades is challenging but when you have to fight longbows or the chariots on top of that, with armor, it’s really annoying

[south comet]

I died to the green vases earlier

[chilly sonnet]

Especially when hades just starts going RANDOM BULLSH*T GO!

[south comet]

because I had the trap damage modifer

[peak zealot]

EM4 hades summons get kind of ridiculous. You haven't seen annoying summons yet

[chilly sonnet]

I’m not doing em4 hades lmao

[half zephyr]

he has the best laugh

[chilly sonnet]

Maybe after I do everything else in the game I’ll just do pure extreme measures but it does not sound fun

[south comet]

which weapon should I kill hades with next

I've legit only done shield

[half zephyr]

dark thirst one

[south comet]

and shield is boring

[half zephyr]

follow the darkness!

[thin socket]

do you get autograph for hypnos while you dying ?

[chilly sonnet]

With a good zag aspect malphon build it shouldn’t be too bad though cause that trivializes half the game

[peak zealot]

IDK, I personally like grinding at 16 heat. Admittedly without EM4, but I did grind EM4 to complete all the bounties

[half zephyr]

if you use zag fist, try using it with plume

[chilly sonnet]

Yeah I do

[half zephyr]

much dodge so speed

[chilly sonnet]

Zag fist + plume + ruthless reflex + pray for greater evasion

[peak zealot]

An alternative fist build is gilgamesh blade dash

[chilly sonnet]

And if you get lightning strike or support fire?? Yeah the games over

[half zephyr]

[south comet]

I usually run lucky tooth in styx but I'm starting to think that plume is stronger overall if I use it from tartarus

[peak zealot]

As far as I know, it has higher DPS than any other fist build

[half zephyr]

how's that going for you Ramora?

[peak zealot]

at least, potentionally

@half zephyr I've gotten one hermes boon away from optimal several times now. As is, I've had to settle for about 2000 DPS in the final boss fight instead of 4000

[half zephyr]

you have to have plume on all the time for best effect

and ofc if you want to keep the effect

[half zephyr]

[south comet]

yeah that's why I said if I use it from tartarus

[half zephyr]

I only use it from tart if I do plume

[south comet]

I had over 30% dodge with it + greater evasion last run

[peak zealot]

I did some plume runs starting from second floor when I was fishing for hermes legendaries to complete prophecies. Ignoring that, start from first floor

[south comet]

I need to use more keepsakes though

I only use tooth and plume

it gets boring to only use the same 2

[half zephyr]

then do some collection runs w other keepsakes

get some more darkness & stuff on lower heat or no heat & upgrade/try out keepsakes

[peak zealot]

Grinding keepsakes was the worst

[half zephyr]

or you could try for certain builds

I still have 1 keepsake left to max..

I just never want to use the stupid featherduster

[peak zealot]

@south comet all the god boons that force an encounter are very useful once you learn which duo boons are good

[half zephyr]

it's such a waste

I don't need hp chance from urns >.<

[peak zealot]

It takes something like 2-3 runs to max a keepsake, if you only have one left.... it isn't that bad right?

[half zephyr]

it's just that I feel like I could use better keepsakes then that one

and so it's just sad

[peak zealot]

I mean, it is definitely terrible

[half zephyr]

I don't even break urns unless I see gold

it's just a placeholder keepsake

[peak zealot]

On the topic of keepsakes, I really really wish the shattered shackle turned off the increased drop rate of primary slot boons. It feels so bad to use shattered shackle right now

[half zephyr]

shackle was easy to lvl at least

it did something useful for a while!

[half zephyr]

that would be a nice bonus indeed

[peak zealot]

It just feels really bad to be trying to do a shackle run and get constantly forced to take primary slot boons that disable my keepsake

I know it only disables it for the affected move slot, but still

[half zephyr]

at least you gets moneys

obols everywhere

[peak zealot]

kind of. Sometimes you are forced to take more boons than you can sell

[half zephyr]

true I guess

[peak zealot]

I agree that its rare

[half zephyr]

I only ran shackle until I filled the core slots then swapped

I have yet to do boonless

[peak zealot]

broken spear point is another basiclaly useless keepsake IMO

[half zephyr]

ye

the cooldown is so long

I mean I get it, but

[peak zealot]

cosmic egg also feels bad to equip.

[half zephyr]

I like the look of it, but I've reached that point where the hp drop doesn't matter much anymore :/

[peak zealot]

I mean, it just feels bad to equip a keepsake that only MIGHT be relevant in the run

[half zephyr]

I wish it increased fishing spot odds too

if cosmic egg increased the chance of a chaos fishing spot spawning

I'd be using it again

[south comet]

Am I seeing things, or does the rail have a higher fire rate when it shoots the last few bullets

[peak zealot]

I'd prefer it if it forced a chaos encounter but made the rarity worse or something to compensate

[half zephyr]

I just want chaos fishies for darkness

[peak zealot]

I've never noticed that with rail. But I use aspect of hestia so I only ever fire 1 shot between reloads @south comet

[half zephyr]

I don't pay attention to firing rate on rail when I use it

I just point & shoot

[peak zealot]

I'm on switch. I don't even point

[half zephyr]

and dash

[half zephyr]

ye, I'm on switch too

I still point tho

I move the joystick around a bit "pointing"

[peak zealot]

I suppose

[half zephyr]

I don't aim

but I do point in the general direction

[peak zealot]

Have you ever been doing a rail run with BP2 and encountered the shileded skull swarm..... that is a miserable fight

[half zephyr]

heh

it's a fun fight

just boomboomboom

specials all around

I usually run Eris or Lucifer

no

[peak zealot]

its probalby not as bad with lucifer

[half zephyr]

sorry, it's early

[peak zealot]

Or eris

With hestia, it is really miserable

[half zephyr]

late?
early?

it's 4:57 am

[south comet]

my current goal is to get aspect of arthur but I need to beat the game again to get it

[peak zealot]

probably the hardest encounter in the game

[half zephyr]

I woke up at 2:37 am

[south comet]

hopefully I can finish another run tonight

[peak zealot]

if you want runs to go faster, turn on TD1

[south comet]

which one is that

[peak zealot]

it isn't a huge benefit, but you do get to skip the time trial rooms

[half zephyr]

timing

9 mins pr region

leftover time rolls over

[peak zealot]

9 mins is super easy

[half zephyr]

mhmm

I usually end up w at least 16 on Hades

which is overkill

[peak zealot]

I usually use TD2 and enter hades fights with about 9 minutes on clock (which translates to 17 on TD1)

[half zephyr]

I don't wanna do TD2 yet

[south comet]

I don't really care about how long runs are

I usually take my time during runs

I ain't trying to rush it

[half zephyr]

I don't feel confident enough in the heats yet

[peak zealot]

Just saying, it is basically a free way to increase heat

[half zephyr]

it's why I'm doing a hell mode file on the side

heat training!

[peak zealot]

between EM3 and TD2, the first ten heat are so smooth

[half zephyr]

it's forcing me to get good fast

I just need 4 keys & I'll be able to buy the rail!

and that means aspects

[south comet]

I've been running the trap damage modifier honestly

I'm on heat 1 lmao

[half zephyr]

that's the worst one

[peak zealot]

Trap damage modifier seems like it should be good to choose. But it makes the final hades fight WAY harder

[half zephyr]

the urns at hades fight are traps

[south comet]

I know I died to one earlier

[half zephyr]

it's a more difficult heat

[south comet]

I don't mind

[modern garnet]

trap damage increase is the only heat that can instantly end your run

[half zephyr]

easiest heats are arguably TD1 & EM1

[peak zealot]

It also just means random deaths in styx and elsium

[south comet]

I'll just have to be more careful in the hades fight

I almost killed him twice with it on

[dapper gull]

which weapon are you guys using ?

[half zephyr]

maybe BP1 & MM?

idk about those 2, but I find them easy fun

[south comet]

I can do it for sure

[modern garnet]

yeah of course you can do it

[half zephyr]

the thirsty one

[modern garnet]

but if you were running jury summons you would've beat him twice already

[peak zealot]

I generally grind with EM3, BP2, MM, and TD2

[half zephyr]

BP2 is so much fun

so much random

[south comet]

I'll try another heat if I lose this run too

[modern garnet]

MM makes the minibosses not boring

[half zephyr]

the shield guys are more annoying though... and the flame wheels.. and witches

but even they are fun!

[south comet]

but I'm sure I can beat hades

[peak zealot]

the hell did I say

[half zephyr]

something bad

[dapper gull]

bot got bad at ya XD

[peak zealot]

BP2 and MM are pretty significant difficulty increases, but they make runs way more fun

[south comet]

the spear has nice range, I can probably break the urns with the spear without taking damage

[peak zealot]

that was the message I was trying to type. I'm not sure what I typo-ed to infuraite the bot

[half zephyr]

who knows

[south comet]

last time I died from the urns is because my athena dash broke one

[half zephyr]

I dash through them to break them

[modern garnet]

if you really wanna avoid dying to pots, purge your dash boon in elysium

[half zephyr]

double dashing~

[south comet]

or I just don't pick a dash boon

[dapper gull]

this is my I like Drunken Dash

[peak zealot]

splash dash is way too good to purge

[half zephyr]

agreed

[south comet]

I have splash cast, didn't get splash dash this run

sadge

[half zephyr]

also good

if it splash it good

[south comet]

ye

[peak zealot]

all of posiedons boons are good

[south comet]

I don't like poseidon attacks though

[half zephyr]

hmmm

all

I don't agree

[south comet]

at least not on melee weapons

[half zephyr]

I don't like the legendary

the combat one

[dapper gull]

posiedons boons are good at melee combat

[south comet]

only poseidon legendary I got was the fishing one

[half zephyr]

I might still be salty about not getting it for the longest time when it was the last one I needed

but it's so underwhelming

[peak zealot]

I mean, the legendary is overkill for sure, but it isn't bad.

[south comet]

I don't like how I push them away from me when I attack them with the spear for example

[half zephyr]

it's so bad

[south comet]

but I'm running achilles spear so it wouldn't be too bad

[wraith ginkgo]

last run I realized zues special and jolted is great for chaos shield

[half zephyr]

compared to others

[south comet]

I love achilles spear so much

[peak zealot]

Compared to other legendaries? maybe.... Compared to boons in general, its fine

[dapper gull]

posiedons boons are also great, on small rooms like in styx,

[half zephyr]

but it's not a general boon

it is a legendary

I'd have loved it as a general boon thing

[peak zealot]

still better than aphrodites legendary

[half zephyr]

no

that legendary is great

cuz it can make you stun Hades with regular attacks

if you get charm to trigger he gets stunned

[dapper gull]

aphrodites boons have highest percentage damage, right ?

[peak zealot]

I'm aware. I just don't think there is much value in randomly stunning hades for a quarter of a second

You can't rely on it

[half zephyr]

it is when you need just a tiny bit of extra time

[modern garnet]

welll you can do it when he does an attack thats about to hit you

[dapper gull]

that randomness has saved me so many times from the final boss

[modern garnet]

it's like an extra acorn charge if you use it right

[half zephyr]

it's hard to time it correctly for that tho

[peak zealot]

You should dodge when he is about to hit you. Hoping for a trigger is worse than dodging

[half zephyr]

I don't wait for the trigger

I say thank you when it happens

it's better then the poseidon one

[peak zealot]

it is a purely incidental buff that barely helps against bosses and does essentially nothing against normal enemies. At least posiedon legendary makes normal enemies die in half the time

[half zephyr]

but normal enemies do that anyways

I build for Hades

not for normal enemies

and since I do a lot of aphro anyways, the legendary is always a nice bonus

[peak zealot]

Agreed, poseidons legendary is overkill. But its fun overkill that at least combos with a duo boon. Aphro boon just does nothing strategically

[dapper gull]

@half zephyr , you using hera's bow ?

[half zephyr]

I don't use bow unless I have to

[modern garnet]

oh my bad i thought we were talking about aphro call

that's the one you can use like acorn

[peak zealot]

And poseidons legendary does make mini bosses and hades summons die a lto faster too

[dapper gull]

aphro's cast on hera is OP

[peak zealot]

aphro primary boons are great in general. Except for the dash of course

[half zephyr]

I just don't feel like a 2nd knockaway effect is worth legendary status I guess

[peak zealot]

I don't know why the dashes are so Imbalanced

[dapper gull]

i'll say, its about playstyle, if you can make the dash work, then it would be worth having that boon

[half zephyr]

I love splash dash

but the legendary is still meh

[dapper gull]

lol, you hate that legendary

[peak zealot]

Splash dash is S tier. Athena and Ares dash are A teir. Zeus is C tier. The rest are only useful for applying status if you couldn't get a good dash

[half zephyr]

it took me like 15 runs to get it for the prophecy - I carry a grudge

and poseidon is one of my fave gods in general mythology too

I love the Ocean

[dapper gull]

I honestly don't care about ranking boon in tier,
I mean, we all have different play-style, so the boon's ranking would differ for everyone

[half zephyr]

Athena is still boring though, but I do agree it's good

[peak zealot]

I don't think the rankings would vary much. Peoples play styles aren't that different, and the dashes are super imbalanced

[half zephyr]

mhm

[dapper gull]

how many times have your escaped so far ?

[peak zealot]

The rankings for ares would probably be all over the place. The rest of the dash boons would be consistent

[modern garnet]

it's ok for boons to be better than other boons

[half zephyr]

uhm... ok, saw you changed that

not that many really - 86+ or so

I'm at around 118+ runs total

I haven't had much time to play cuz babysitting

[dapper gull]

yeah, earlier statement wasnt making any sense.
wow, that's great man

[peak zealot]

@modern garnet I agree. I just think the gaps are a bit too large for the dash slot

[half zephyr]

and then I'm doing my hell mode file

which is not fine

it's the worst feeling

[peak zealot]

I should really start a hell mode file. At this point I'm just grinding rank on my main file

[half zephyr]

dying to theseus of all people

gonna feel so good when I can kill him again

[dapper gull]

damn , why must you torture yourself ?

[half zephyr]

heat training

and it's fun

it's not easy getting to heroes on 1 dd tho

I'd forgotten the feeling

[peak zealot]

does hell mode limit to 1 DD?

[half zephyr]

no aspects, not fully maxed mirror

[peak zealot]

or are you just super early in progression

just super early

[half zephyr]

I'm only on run like.. 10? 13?

[dapper gull]

I started hell mode, but realized I had one goal pending, and thus returned to normal mode

I have completed 2-3 run with no mirror upgrade

it was fun

[half zephyr]

I haven't gotten enough darkness yet

I haven't even been to chaos yet

[peak zealot]

@half zephyr FYI, if you do a 32 heat run on the tenth hades fight, you get to skip the fight and meat the criteria for the statue easier

[half zephyr]

but I did finally get to see eurydice so yay acorn

[modern garnet]

yaycorn

[half zephyr]

fun, still not gonna do that I feel cuz I can't even survive 5 heat on hell mode

I've never even done 32 on my main file

[peak zealot]

You have time. Have to beat hades 9 times before you make the decision

[half zephyr]

I've only gone up to 13?

I haven't even beaten him once!

theseus keeps killing me

it's so sad

[peak zealot]

Maybe try EM3?

[half zephyr]

I take out asterius & then theseus snipes me in the back

[peak zealot]

EM2 on hell mode probably sucks though

[half zephyr]

I can barely survive furies & hydra as is

NO ASPECTS

this is basic weapons

[peak zealot]

soon aspects

[half zephyr]

I can't even access the menu

so sad

just need 4 keys

and a rail run

[peak zealot]

I was so confused about titan blood on my first play through. Took me forever to find the aspect menu

[half zephyr]

[dapper gull]

aspect starts from spear, right ?

[half zephyr]

no

[dapper gull]

then only you can unlock others

[half zephyr]

that's hidden aspects

I'm talking getting aspects in general - you need to unlock all weapons for that

[dapper gull]

ok

ohh, my bad

[half zephyr]

well, it's been fun talking but now I've got to go again

[peak zealot]

so many keys

[dapper gull]

so little time

[half zephyr]

my nephew will be waking up in 30-60 mins

so I gotta be prepared for that

[peak zealot]

Its like 150 keys to unlock mirror and weapons?

[half zephyr]

[peak zealot]

audios

[dapper gull]

may the fates favor ya

[south comet]

did it

completed my 2nd run

finally I can unlock the aspect of arthur

I also only used up 1 DD in the entire run

and it was because I was mindlessly hitting hades at the end because there was no way I could lose

is there a way that I can switch the flowers next to nyx back to purple?

[compact badger]

Ask the contractor for other flowers you've purchased. You'll have to scroll down a bit

Also congratz on the strong escape. Arthur is fun 🚚

[south comet]

ty

I really like how the purple flowers look next to nyx lol

[compact badger]

Same. But I switch to red every now and then. One has to imagine that new flowers have a stronger scent

[peak zealot]

Hard to say. They are underworld flowers so they must be just as dead as anything else. Do flowers still have strong scents in the afterlife?

[compact badger]

That's a fair point, but aren't there bushes in Elysium?
Also, fishies are alive in the river, so it's not much of a stretch that special kinds of plants would be alive in Tartarus

[peak zealot]

I assumed the fish were all dead too. Hence why they are often on fire or ghostly or whatever. Its underworld. Everything is in the afterlife right?

well, except for the fish in the overworld that is. those are just normal fish

[hollow hawk]

yeah i always assumed the fish are like the enemies

though idk what bad deed that knucklehead did to deserve life in tartarus

[compact badger]

I thought they were all created by Chaos? At least those that live in its domain.
Also, some Styx fishies' Codex entry say things like "When alive, we thought these fishes were mythical" IIRC

[south comet]

does level EM1 only buff meg?

[modern garnet]

It only makes the first boss harder

[peak zealot]

It will make the first boss harder regardless of which sister you face. It doesn't only buff meg

[south comet]

I might get my 3rd clear

4 DD's and full hp at hades

with 390hp LMAO

yep

hades dead

[eager patrol]

Does cast effects stack?

Cause it really doesnt feel like it

[modern garnet]

What effect?

[void vigil]

If you’re talking about boiling blood, it does not

[south comet]

wait, to have the aspect of arthur, do I need 5 titan blood invested in 1 aspect, or 5 titan blood invested in stygius total

[modern garnet]

total

but apparently investing in zag aspects doesn't count? I've heard mixed info on that

[craggy barn]

it doesn't count for guan yu specifically

should be fine for the other hidden aspects

[peak zealot]

weird

but guan yu is weird I guess

[south comet]

I already have guan yu

[eager patrol]

Ye that, ty (and sadge)

[radiant estuary]

So odd question, but is there anywhere where I can see the full image of the picture that's used at the top of the game's page when it's in your library?

[dapper gull]

you mean, something like this :
https://images.ctfassets.net/5owu3y35gz1g/66Ay8RSCIZ8aIOqPSyFQuw/d39b9ceeb1812a52ffffc9b923372fae/Hades_Launch.png?w=1920&q=80

[radiant estuary]

Yeah, that one

Thanks

[dapper gull]

well, i found this one on steamgrid

https://cdn2.steamgriddb.com/file/sgdb-cdn/grid/9ea6a76568f749f117172eaf365d7b21.png

[signal aspen]

what

[half zephyr]

What?

[signal aspen]

bp2 is not fun

[half zephyr]

Is so

[signal aspen]

weird

[half zephyr]

I like the random

[signal aspen]

what heat do you normally play on?

[half zephyr]

Not much

The highest I’ve gone is 13 I think?

[signal aspen]

oh

bp2 ruined my 40 heat runs

[half zephyr]

That’s why I’m doing the hell mode heat training

[half zephyr]

Ye, I’m not sure I’ll ever do that heat

[signal aspen]

i dont need enemies that deal extra damage if i already have hl5

[livid canyon]

hmm can u use gem stone on anything else beside house decoration

i need to spend 5k

[signal aspen]

you can trade with it

[livid canyon]

ah aight

[signal aspen]

but thats it

[livid canyon]

also isnt the main menu suppose to show ur total darkness since started playing right

why does it show my current darkness only

[signal aspen]

are you looking at the darkness counter on the save file?

[livid canyon]

well it said i ned to accumulate 15k darkness

i have full mirror upgrade

but since the Charon thing i doubt it ognna bug again

[signal aspen]

is that an achievement?

[livid canyon]

no im trying to unlock theme

[signal aspen]

you need 25k darkness for the theme

[livid canyon]

wait wat

no no

i need to do some requirement

so the house contractor will review all the theme

im not talking about chaos theme

[signal aspen]

you need to get the chaos bond

[signal aspen]

"no im trying to unlock theme"

[livid canyon]

themes

[void vigil]

do you need to accumulate a total of 15k or do you need to have 15k on you at the moment to unlock the theme?

[livid canyon]

uh

man

[void vigil]

like, not in the mirror

[livid canyon]

IDKkk

the guide said so im just following it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2236312424

here check

[signal aspen]

it says you need to purchase all ingame upgrades, spend 5k gemstones, spend 30 titan blood, and accumulate 15k darkness

i have never heard of that

[livid canyon]

then idk

[void vigil]

the wiki says you simply need to have all non-theme items in the work orders tab. and for woodland you also need 3000 unspent darkness

[livid canyon]

im following that

it why i came here to confirm

wa

woodland ?

im so confuse rn

[signal aspen]

its a theme

[void vigil]

the woodland theme

you can see its image in the guide

[livid canyon]

yee but how do i reveal all of them

i cant purchase if they aren't even in the house contractor

[void vigil]

did you buy everything in the "work orders" tab

[signal aspen]

im pretty sure you need to get bonds with certain characters

[livid canyon]

yes i did

[signal aspen]

whos bonds do you have?

[livid canyon]

i bond with everyone

[signal aspen]

and you bought all the work orders?

[void vigil]

do you have extremer measures as well?

[livid canyon]

YES

Yes

dde pls i already played this game for 400 hours+

i finished everything

[signal aspen]

bro your save file is broken

[livid canyon]

urgh

[void vigil]

you could try writing in #h1-tech-support

[livid canyon]

wow i cant even send imge here

is there a way to check how many of resource i have

in save file

[signal aspen]

if you go to the save file menu you can see the total amount of darkness you got, and you can see how many resources you have by looking in the bottom right (you can only see it if you are not in battle)

[livid canyon]

aight nvm i got it to work,i verify files on steam

[void vigil]

and they showed up?

[livid canyon]

yee

[void vigil]

yay!

[signal aspen]

oh

nice

[livid canyon]

it said 1 file was missing

weird

[signal aspen]

explains a lot

[livid canyon]

but jc 25k for Chaos theme tho-

[void vigil]

it used to be 50k

[livid canyon]

my god-

[void vigil]

honestly, when it was released, i had that amount lying around

[livid canyon]

wow

how much hours were u in at that point

[void vigil]

probably in the 300s

[livid canyon]

also Woodland is 100 nectar now

[void vigil]

i could buy every theme pretty much immediately, but the most painful one to buy was stygian, because i need that titan blood for weapons...

[livid canyon]

oof

[signal aspen]

i bought every theme pretty quickly, but i used most of them once

[void vigil]

i use the lovely theme the most

i like it

[signal aspen]

im using the most expensive theme i have rn

it used to be lovely

now its the chaos one

[void vigil]

i used that one for a good while, its very pretty as well

[iron loom]

good morning everyone

[signal aspen]

good morning

[iron loom]

day 3 of trying to get chaos's legendary boon todays the day im feeling it

[void vigil]

but i renovated the house again a while ago and changed every decoration i could to be red or pink so i switched back to the lovely theme

you got this. today is the day

[craggy barn]

make sure to reroll every well for chaos gates

[iron loom]

i try to save at least 2 rerolls for the second chaos encounter

but yeah I'm also rerolling wells from time to time

[craggy barn]

probably best to reroll each well once

[signal aspen]

put on cosmic egg