It’s got more class tho
#h1-discussion
crimson palm
inner field
I know it's distinct with supergiant but it's looks dope on the switch
I felt like a kid again reading the incredible spiderman reboot
inner field
That's why I referenced spiderman
carmine ravine
Hades is cel-shaded, very different than a comic book imo
carmine ravine
Spiderman into the spider verse is strictly hand drawn, thus its very comic book like
crimson palm
I thought it was 3D animated
carmine ravine
Just in case if you dont notice the frame rate, its hand drawn in a 3d world
crimson palm
Ooh
inner field
I think all there games are hand drawn
crimson palm
Yeah def
inner field
Anyways I can't wait for their next game, also Im excited by Landfall games
I hope they continue to make exciting stuff too
Alright I'm out
crimson palm
bye
crimson palm
The later you get in the game it becomes increasingly special gifts to give to the characters, like upgraded nectar
||If given to some characters they’ll give you more powerful keepsakes called cthonic companions||
Pretty helpful
modern garnet
Trading it for titan blood is pretty useful too
crimson palm
Ooh yeah for sure
delicate heron
you also use it for upgrading the companion fable things
twilit marsh
gray apex
You gotta up the heat or change the weapon
Because that means you've done bounties for that weapon/heat
carmine ravine
I think all there games are hand drawn
I dont think you understand what hand drawn is
craggy barn
i like how building dionysus is pretty much the opposite of building zeus in that instead of t2s you wanna get duos for hangover
hollow hawk
yeah, you dont really wanna get more dio boons after you get one of his core boons
unless you've unlocked a duo boon
manic moat
what about the one that makes you do more damage if more than 3 hangover effected enemies
craggy barn
honestly it's probably only good with chaos shield lmao
it seems to be the one aspect than can reliably tag multiple enemies with hangover and actually do good damage at the same time
manic moat
rama bow special spam?
spring valve
accidently equipped a keepsake that doesnt help my run in the slightest :/
modern garnet
Imagine accidentally equipping purse in styx lmao
spring valve
nah harpy feather duster but i have max lasting consequences on lol
gray apex
lol
perfection
If you are still in the transition room you can go to your menu and quit
Then enter that save file again
high island
Bad Influence is one of the potentially most broken boons in the game. It's right up there with Rush Delivery in the right builds.
craggy barn
except rush delivery is consistently good
bad influence is great for room clears but i don't think many weapons can apply it very well
high island
It's better than Rush Delivery on Rama.
craggy barn
drunken flourish 
rush delivery is definitely terrible on rama unless you're doing a thunder flourish build or something
high island
Drunken Flourish is potentially BiS on Rama.
craggy barn
bowser's inside story? 
craggy barn
😳
high island
@craggy barn best in slot. 
bright comet
idk going zeus with dio is really good
festive bog lightning with stones lightning the whole map
craggy barn
scint feast is great but not something i'd ever prioritize unless i'm doing a trippy shot build
it doesn't even apply hangover so /shrug
woven nacelle
Lucifer aspect is so underrated
modern garnet
People too busy with the cast gun to shoot lasers i guess
rapid forum
brisk trail
Just watched this video, incredible. If you like the Hades soundtrack (so if you are a human being) you should watch this!
fast laurel
what does ambiguity bonus mean? (bouldy buff)
fast laurel
rip
granite ether
it gives you the power of knowing Bouldy believes in you It does nothing
signal aspen
it gives you +5 confidence
rare hull
The power of friendship
fast laurel
thank you bouldy
high island
Yeah, that's decent for sure.
signal aspen
nice
unborn remnant
gaming
signal aspen
no not again
unborn remnant
but gaming
signal aspen
no
unborn remnant
:(
craggy barn
best part about being able to do quick runs is i can just sit down and play hades for a bit without having to really worry about spending like half an hour on a single run
signal aspen
if a hades run takes 15 min then irl it will take 20+ min
craggy barn
silence 🐊
gray apex
it looks cute
high island
if a hades run takes 15 min then irl it will take 20+ min
More like 30 RTA.
gray apex
Prove it
high island
20m RTA would be around 10m IGT.
high island
Damn, well it can't be helped, then.
I know from reliable sources that cats don't lie.
signal aspen
yes
high island
That source is me.
gray apex
high island
I have no conflicts of interest to report.
craggy barn
only way to find out
numbers checks out
i'm just gonna continue to live in the fantasy that my runs take ~15 minutes when they probably take about 25 minutes in real time ✨
high island
lol
bright comet
i mean yea doesnt it count like the time of the encounters specifically
craggy barn
doesn't help that i tend to just hang around in npc chambers and mid-biome chambers because the timer isn't breathing down my neck in those specific instances
signal aspen
or you can just pause
craggy barn
that doesn't change the fact that my runs take 25 MINUTES in real-time
bright comet
pausing makes the music go "in the distance" when tabbing out so you cant just pause
signal aspen
that doesn't change the fact that my runs take 25 MINUTES in real-time
pause irl dummy
bright comet
i like standing around asking friends like yooo which boon do i take and stuff
craggy barn
ah yes. just stop time
pretend that i'm playing transistor even though i've never played transistor. genius!
high island
It's approximately a 1:2 ratio until you get into sub 10 IGT.
bright comet
also something i noticed when i started literally stopping playing in between runs is that there are region themes playing when you come back
signal aspen
yeah the game can tell when you come back from your breaks
bright comet
first time i was like wow i havent heard that one before and had to stay and listen
the attention to detail is amazing like if you just stop touching the controls and the UI goes away and gives you this landscape to look at
brisk trail
is there a way to only see the amount of time youve actually actively spent playign hades? rather than just the steam time which also shows afk time
bright comet
im not really a person to quit runs midway the first 60 hrs i would always finish a run even if its a fail. they really nailed the whole "i cant heal, but i can fight" feeling
bro hades is amazing like
this couple of years in terms of gaming i was enjoying like a couple of niche games over time and like 1 or 2 triple a titles but overall was thinking yeah man games department is kinda dead
and then i hades 1.0 came out (never ever heard about it prior) and hit me like a train
craggy barn
you definitely get that "i can't heal, but i can fight" feeling at high heat where you straight up cannot heal
bright comet
i never spent so much time behind a game for a good 1.5 year before hades
next step is to learn guitar and play scourge of the furies
speaking of, anywhere i could find the lyre sounds? would be cool to set some of em as a ringtone or something
manic moat
you can listen to the soundtrack on most music platforms
bright comet
nah i mean the specific sounds lyre plays when you interact with it
bright comet
since there are mere seconds before i pick up the phone i really like the scourge part it plays
digital python
I finally beat 8 heat and got the first statue and skelly insists the other two statues will be different but something tells me they're just all going to be statues of skelly lmao
signal aspen
nice
hollow kettle
in my game Than said "Are you alright?" as Zag approached him in the house and my heart just freaking melted lmao
I'm way too invested in these fictional boys I think I need real human connection /lh
wispy fossil
I just wanna say, Hades is my favorite roguelike and I think i know why. Unlike a lot of other games, no matter how bad you are at the game, every run is progress.
rare gust
There are games that also have progression every run, it isn't that uncommon
The biggest factor for what hooked me is the story and writing
signal aspen
yeah, its a rogue-lite
rare gust
Incentive to push hard back into it
wispy fossil
I know, but even in games like Dead Cells or Rogue Legacy there will be runs where you die before you do anything.
rare gust
And, few games actually do this, but even the resources are thoroughly acknowledged through the world of the game itself
wispy fossil
In Hades you're always going to collect gems or essence or something to help you, even if its just a little bit.
rare gust
It's also really polished, every dialogue line and interaction almost feels planned and thought out
signal aspen
gems dont help you
signal aspen
those cost diamonds
rare gust
Wait
wispy fossil
Gems do help a lot. Theyre the main currency for the Constructor and you can trade them for keys or other items.
wispy fossil
They do cost gemstones.
rare gust
Infernal Troves as well
signal aspen
infernal troves are not that good
rare gust
In a sinch the one with darkness and healing can help quite a bit
signal aspen
i think i have only used 1 in my 300 runs
wispy fossil
It can still help out though.
rare gust
Then it boils down to ruthless speedy murder
That's just you man
I've used them every chance I get
Maxed them out too
wispy fossil
The other big thing in Hades I like is the aspect of choice.
rare gust
My yields are often 80-100 of Darkness, Gemstones, or Obol
wispy fossil
The boons and Daedelus upgrades you get are still random, but you nearly always get a choice when choosing. Not a lot of roguelikes do that.
rare gust
I'm liking Aspect of Zeus a little too much and I'm wondering if it is a flat out buff
signal aspen
The boons and Daedelus upgrades you get are still random, but you nearly always ...
when you are choosing the boons you want, you get a choice
crazy man
wispy fossil
Thats what I'm saying.
signal aspen
yeah
rare gust
Well with anything that involves alteration of game mechanics
signal aspen
the way you phrased that was kinda weird though
rare gust
Game design for Synergy is important
Lead the players on, have them imagine what a perfect run would be like
That will bring them back to experiment and research
wispy fossil
Not a lot of roguelikes give you so many chances to choose what you want. And I think that's what I like best about the game.
rare gust
Think about it this way, the objective of the game is to get from point A to point B
The obstacles are stuff you need to beat up
What's available to you? 6 Weapons, each with 4 alterations total
signal aspen
The obstacles are stuff you need to beat up
i dont think you can beat up cerberus
rare gust
You beat up stuff to get Cerberus out of the way
You do NOT beat up Cerberus
But let me lay it out real quick
rare gust
6 weapons, 4 alterations, each having a Special with is a unique way of dealing damage
And then there's Cast with all the gods altering it in one way shape or form
And sometimes they synergize too
There's also Deflecting, Trap Killing, Wall Bashing,
A lot of ways to kill your enemies
Room for creativity is always welcome
If there's only one right way to do things, then it becomes a chore
wispy fossil
I know.
coarse marten
If I use lambent plum for the tartarus and asphodel then unequip it later will I keep my speed and doge chance?
signal aspen
no
coarse marten
is it just me or does charged shot feel extremely op you cna just sit in a corner immune to damage then hit them after they attack you
signal aspen
it feels op because it is op
coarse marten
what would the best call be rn I like the aphrodite one a lot
signal aspen
hades, poseidon, athena, max artemis, max aphrodite, and zeus
coarse marten
are zues boons the worst cause they sure feel like it
signal aspen
no
demeter is probably the worst goddess
she still has good boons
but she is the weakest out of all the gods
coarse marten
what affects the boons you get cause like 4 runs in a row I havent seen like a single dio one
coarse marten
oh so there isnt any specific things that make you see on god boon more or less
signal aspen
there is also a mirror upgrade for that
but it does not change the chances of seeing a specific god
coarse marten
yeah I think I got that one.
I fyou are going for a specific build is it better to use the one that rerolls chamber rewards or the boons.
coarse marten
is Aegis the best weapon?
signal aspen
you are going to get many different answers with a question like that
gray apex
The best weapon is the one you're most comfortable with
coarse marten
the blocking damage and the dash just feel so good. I dont like the special though
cedar briar
Hello I hope I'm in the right channel
But I just wanted to ask
Since I only have herme left and his heart is still locked, is there is a way to talk to unlock it or should I just keep talking to him?
Hope that makes sense 😅
signal aspen
max his keepsake and then talk to him
cedar briar
Oh ok thank you
coarse marten
What does cornered mean like do you do bonus dmg?
signal aspen
it means that your enemy is knocked into the corner
its like hitting an enemy into the wall, except this time they are in a corner
so technically bonus damage
so technically bonus damage
coarse marten
oh so its not like oyu do actual extra damage its just a wall slam.
signal aspen
yeah
coarse marten
how rare is the hidden aspect dialouge cause I have had the sword and rail at 5 for quite a whil and nyx and zues dont seem to want to say the line
modern garnet
you have GY?
signal aspen
you have to get hidden spear first
coarse marten
damn i kinda hate the spear and dont want to waste titan blood on it lol
signal aspen
"unlock the aspect of guan yu"
coarse marten
on the wiki it says it just need to be revealed
signal aspen
do a couple more runs
if you dont get it then you have to unlock it
or maybe you just have really really really really really bad rng
coarse marten
like how many more runs cause I probably done like 10 since i got enough for the sword. But I think it might be cause nyx keeps telling me story things so maybe that overrides my chances,. I still dont get why zues wont say the rail on
modern garnet
turns out all the people who give hidden aspects also say other important things
i think zeus has to see you with the rail once
signal aspen
yeah do you have the rail equipped while talking to zeus?
modern garnet
you don't have to have it equipped for him to give it to you, but he has to see it at least once, or somethin
coarse marten
yeah do you have the rail equipped while talking to zeus?
oh wait you actually have to have it equiped
signal aspen
yeah
coarse marten
damn cause its like my lewast favourite weapon lol
god dammit I thought nyx would finally shut up about the story last time but now she is going on about the flowers ughhh
signal aspen
lmao rip
coarse marten
is there a way to get megera to come to the house more. I really want to start working on getting her companion but she is like never in the house
signal aspen
once you make it to asphodel she is most likely gonna appear in the house
coarse marten
I am so stupid.
I didnt actually reveal guan yu cause I quit the game afterwards and it saves from the chamber not the weapon room
signal aspen
bruh
coarse marten
this whole time it was because guan yu wasnt actually revealed
cause I didnt save revealing it
signal aspen
rip
coarse marten
well hey now I can start getting the rest of the hidden aspects lol
first bloody boon I get the aspect of lucifer lmao
signal aspen
nice
coarse marten
doesnt benefits not afect minibosses?
coarse marten
the benefits package pact
signal aspen
they dont
only middle management, forced overtime, damage control, hard labor, and calisthenics problem
coarse marten
tbh i find it shocking how much harder tisiphone is compared to like the other 2 furies. she is much worse than hydra too
modern garnet
of the three furies, she's the one where it's most important to remember her attack patterns
coarse marten
yeah like she is still easy just most of the time the last part with like no room to dodge just feels like can you kill her before she kills you/do you have the shield
modern garnet
you mean the 3 big green circles she draws?
that's one of her most telegraphed attacks imo
it's a test of your reflexes, not a dps test
coarse marten
no just like her final phase when the room is tiny
like her whipe covers half the room lol
chuck in meg and the other one and its like impossbile to dodge anything for me
modern garnet
if you have a chaos curse that reduces your dashes or speed, the furies will tear you apart, but otherwise I haven't had the trouble you've had
coarse marten
yeah I dont struggle with them just it seem weird the other two are so easy and then tis feels stronger than asterius
i like how stealing a little bit of mone yfrom charon just makes him a boss harder than hades lol
cedar briar
max his keepsake and then talk to him
Ok i did and now one more ambrosia and I would max everyone friendship \o/
coarse marten
is there a way to turn off the aim assit
paper hill
yup in control settings
signal aspen
yeah
coarse marten
nice
with the aspect of luciefer how does it work with like artemis thing since it does damage pretty fast does it mean it will crit often
modern garnet
crits often, but not for much
with luci you can go artemis atk, but you'd also want to invest in attack hammers
coarse marten
yeah i got the faster firing and more range
would using support fire mean you just have a ton of arrows all the time going all over the place
coarse marten
yeah I got the thing to escape with aspect of lucifer and I realised i never did the rail on 0 heat lol
how would athena attack and lucifer work would i just be able to deflect everything
deep oasis
I'm still waiting for that Hades soundtrack with just the bass lines of all the songs
coarse marten
honesly there feels like the beam can mess with so many boons lol
modern garnet
one day im gonna build a serious knockback atk build with luci
slam everyone into walls, and get the typhoon flurry, breaking wave
coarse marten
i wonder how the attack speed works with luci from hermes. does it just increase how ofter the beam damages
or does it not show up at all
luci with chill and explode at 10 stacks sounds stong
modern garnet
i know you can increase attack speed but i dont know.. what it does
coarse marten
time to get my second hammer woo
i wish i was using the sword with hoarding stash thouhg Im stitting at like 1000 coins
i got support fire. Its pretty awful damage but looks really funny
oh cmon meg shows up the one time I dont have nectar
modern garnet
buy nectar!
coarse marten
buy nectar!
i spent my gems on a rug and when the camera panned over I realised my mistake
modern garnet
rug more important than gf i guess
gray apex
lol
coarse marten
rug more important than gf i guess
yes
gotta do that dusa favour lol
i got infinite ammo and athena attack.
nooo
the beam doesnt deflect
whyyyy
rare gust
LMAOOO
If you pull a Greater Call at the same god who is pissed at you
They actually retort
I pissed off Zeus by picking Poseidon and when I used his greater call
"I ought to strike YOU down!"
coarse marten
no
thank god I have athena dash lol
well i have anew thing. get legendary aphrodite
wait actually I think the start of the beam deflects maybe
coarse marten
I have so many aphrodite boons please just give me attack
i got 6 different boons and 2 more i purged
i went thourgh 8 aphrodites and she just wont gimme my attack
brisk trail
its important to fill up your other core slots to get one you want
coarse marten
they are all filled aphrodite just refuses to offer me to swap my athena attack to her one
modern garnet
Boon swaps are kinda rare, you'd have more chance if you purged the atk
coarse marten
i know every oppurtunity the attasck wont come up to pure
ughh now I gotta deal with theseus
rare gust
I like how the Aspect of Lucifer implies Satan went down guns blazing
There's a DooM joke in there somewhere
brisk trail
could have tried to purge the attack then
coarse marten
could have tried to purge the attack then
i tried but the 3 boons are never attack maybe temple of styx will gimme some luck]
brisk trail
rip
coarse marten
theseus is the biggest pain in the ass to fight tbh
he just sits behind is shield spewing insults
well time to cry it offered me 2 different duo boons instead of letting me just swap my attack
while clearing out the rest of the tunnels I find another boon purge... take a wild guess what I could purge
what does the hidden coronacht do again?
brisk trail
bigger dmg but slower charge, special isnt spread but small concentrated arrows that bounce and marks enemies
modern garnet
Marked enemies take % damage whenever you deal damage with attack
coarse marten
ahh ok
modern garnet
The trick with hidden bow is to mark many enemies and then hit many enemies with an attack
If you fire an attack into a crowd it will shred anyone marked
coarse marten
is the celestial sharange attack the special or normal?
coarse marten
yeah it was
coarse marten
no its just the attack
deft shell
Celestial Sharanga is the name of the bow 🏹
karmic dome
Is the hydra similar to a destiny raid boss?
rare gust
Ayy I did it
I got the final ending
I think
I don't know if this game has more, always something around the corner I swear
modern garnet
There's something called an "epilogue"?
hybrid elm
Can I have more than 1 duo boon per escape?
brisk trail
Yes.
hybrid elm
nice, tks
modern garnet
You can get so many duo boons.... its great
simple blaze
congrats
modern garnet
Boonless runs are cute but what about single boon run with pom flower
I guess you don't get the shackle buff then :/
brisk trail
sounds easier than boonless
modern garnet
Yeah but big number funny
simple moat
why do i do this to myself https://streamable.com/yb6phj
modern garnet
?
manic moat
they missed the gold pot
they got merciful end tho so I think it
is fair
balanced like all things should be
modern garnet
Who needs 20 coin when you can ME everything
manic moat
fists players be so self absorbed coz they're always talking about ME
simple moat
That was during my pb run too so extra sad
It's funny you would think ME would be op enough on its own to get good times but it's weird how much it relies on support boons
but yeah missed gold pot and wasted 3 seconds so that was frustrating
craggy barn
explain to me why i thought stella's pfp was astolfo
i have this really weird habit of mistaking people's pfps with completely different things at a glance, i thought tailesque's pfp was some artemis fanart for the longest time because of the lighting
carmine ravine
maybe bcoz its a smol circle
modest geode
Boonless runs are cute but what about single boon run with pom flower
Yesterday I saw a level 5 to level 8 pom upgrade, and it was very lackluster. I don't remember the numbers, but the percentile increase in damage was ridiculously small. And we're talking a straight 3 levels jump in a boon.
high island
Some boons scale better than others.
modern garnet
Haha yeah diminishing returns
It's special boons that scale good, right?
Or like, better
abstract forge
thesus makes me die inside
modest geode
Theseus is such a dumbass
I wonder if he ever gets to chill like Asterius, or if he's doomed to be a dumbass for eternity
modern garnet
Just don't get hit ;-)
modern garnet
Idk it's hard to answer that without knowing what you've already tried
modest geode
PROTIP: To defeat Hades, shoot at him until he dies.
modern garnet
Big damage dad
modest geode
Step 1: Be OP
Step 2: Beat Hades
modern garnet
Acorn good.... it blocks 5 hits, which is like... 2 death defiances
abstract forge
phase two with one revive? poggers?
i lost the reveive immedietly
i just died
im sad
high island
It's special boons that scale good, right?
Heartbreak Strike and Flourish scale very well. Tempest Flourish scaling is fine, too. But it's mostly anything with flat damage that has good pom scaling.
modest geode
phase two with one revive? poggers?
In phase two he does those green things and lasers. The lasers could be avoided by hiding behind the structures, the green things can be disposed of by hitting them and dashing away or by shooting them from afar. I don't know what else there is there. Take the time, keep your distance when possible.
abstract forge
tank you
manic moat
same dude I couldn't leave hades in my first two weeks
sinful reef
Today was my first day without hades
sinful reef
It's a slow but good recovery
opaque radish
What's Skelly's third prize? I'm close to a 16 heat run so I'll be uncovering the second, but if the third prize takes 32 heat I'd rather just know now
craggy barn
i'll give you a clue; absolutely useless trinket
rapid forum
excuse you, it's an ornament
rare gust
Did you folks know you can manipulate the special offers of the Wretched Broker?
craggy barn
absolutely useless ornament
rare gust
I found it by accident, but if enter your Chambers before even seeing the deal
You save there, and every time you reload that save the offer is different
Of course if you saved after examining the deal, it's fixed and won't change
Apparently it is decided upon your first viewing
Can get stuff for gemstones this way
rapid forum
something's not right with your statements....
rare gust
From what I can tell what he offers is fixed, but what he is taking is different every load
rapid forum
oh my brain is slow
abstract forge
poggy doggy
cunning cradle
how does targeting system work with rocket bomb?
novel radish
searched all over the web, wiki, guides etc. but none actually answer the predicament I have. I got the steam achievement for completing the story. the hearts for "hades" were also unlocked past the first yet I still can't give him any gifts at all despite also beating him few times past the base story and higher heats. every source says to complete the game 10 times/beat the story/unlock his hearts all with how to and such. yet, I've done more than this and still can't give him a second gift with the hearts unlocked telling me I can. even times when he has nothing to say or things to say, still can't. anyone know more to why?
abstract forge
thats very long
hollow hawk
how does targeting system work with rocket bomb?
it applies the debuff to whatever enemy the rocket is headed towards
cunning cradle
oh ok, thanks
vapid narwhal
searched all over the web, wiki, guides etc. but none actually answer the predic...
Get to credits, and talk to the couple. There is some RNG involved. If there were something important you havent triggered, they will always have to be played first.
novel radish
credits already roled. been talking to Persephone and Hades in the house. at the point where they don't even have things to say at the house for last couple attempts. the game showed hades having the hearts unlocked and the codex shows I can gift him. not even receiving that option. just a talk where he says couple varying lines that imply there is nothing to say. what kind of rng could there be?
cunning cradle
did you already go into a new run and either completed it or died?
novel radish
several to both
cunning cradle
idk, contanct the developers or file a report
signal aspen
restart the game
even if it works after you restart the game hit f10 and report the bug
novel radish
restarting didn't work yet I did discover that dashing out of the pool when you respawn back in the house is the cause of several bugs such as back earlier in the game it caused issues with making loading take longer and prevent me from using the instrument in the chambers. figured maybe it was the cause for this too and decided for once to not dash into the house and well, yeah. resolved and noted. dashing out of the pool definitely breaks things
novel radish
currently filing it yeah
novel radish
idk if it's just the dashing out of the pool for animation skipping causing it or if the fact i use the M+KB to play while having an xbox 360 controller plugged in at the same time when I use spacebar to dash out. also unsure if it originally triggers the bug when I hit w or s on keyboard during boon selection because that makes my controller take over the controls as well and causes it to vibrate. many possibilities but well, it's resolved at least. no more animation skipping for now lol
tight cave
restarting didn't work yet I did discover that dashing out of the pool when you ...
Interesting. I pretty much always dash out of the pool, just makes the camera go funny for me.
signal aspen
i always dash out of the pool and nothing happens
novel radish
I added some notes to the report. could be many reasons why it occurs right down to even my computer rather than what i have plugged in or even both etc. something about my sessions, something potentially 3rd party from the game could influence how it runs. maybe they will find something maybe not enough to work with yet. either way, im all good and hopefully just uniquely an issue only i encounter like a rare few bazaar game glitches that have existed over the many years of games.
high island
@novel radish aside from bug reports, you can ask for help in #h1-tech-support.
unborn remnant
zagreus
sturdy sphinx
Okay I finally got to the point where I saw credits so I should be safe now 🙂
Poseidon sword pretty good
signal aspen
poseidon sword is great
sturdy sphinx
It requires a lot but yeah exit wounds with artie cast was hittin
I just used an artemis special and it worked okay. Wondering what would be best. Also the hammer upgrades are all kinda eh except for the double special
The one that converts your attack to a big chop actually ruined a run for me
sturdy sphinx
The prophecy has foretold such things
signal aspen
the special?
sturdy sphinx
For special yeah
signal aspen
if you are using artemis cast i would use aphro special for heart rend
sturdy sphinx
Yeah I was thinking that
Weak is actually really clutch for priority status (I think that's the name) and the damage scaling is great and it's funny seeing people hit you for such smol damage
signal aspen
privileged status
and yeah weak is great
weak can also increase the damage your summons do
sturdy sphinx
Oh nice. I know there's some perks that increase damage to weak as well
I feel like I don't run into aphrodite that much actually
signal aspen
there is a mirror upgrade that increases the chance of running into a god
sturdy sphinx
I feel like I'm still very early into Hades actually. I just figured out to swap the mirror abilities you just click the button 😅
I was waiting for the mirror to flip or something
signal aspen
lmao
sturdy sphinx
Are there additional unlocks on there then?
signal aspen
the mirror?
whoops
did not mean to give you an L
the mirror has a purple and yellow side and some more tiers you unlock with keys
sturdy sphinx
Yeah. I have it unlocked all the way down as far as I know
Have uh, fated authority on the bottom or whatever which one
sturdy sphinx
Give more mirror
signal aspen
ok
sturdy sphinx
Thanks
signal aspen
if you give nyx enough nectar then she will give you another mirror
signal aspen
yeah
sturdy sphinx
I know it is
sturdy sphinx
Nice
signal aspen
all of the upgrades are the opposite of the mirror in your chambers
sturdy sphinx
Seems fair. -10% chance to get a legendary or duo boon is so clutch
signal aspen
thats what it does normally
coarse marten
any tips for getting rare fish
signal aspen
this time the mirror behind achilles actually gives you +10% legendary or duo chance
signal aspen
any tips for getting rare fish
not really, you just have to get better at timing it
signal aspen
Is trout rare?
no
sturdy sphinx
Ah
Oh wait the timing matters? Man I thought so long as I caught the thing it was what it was
signal aspen
nah
coarse marten
not really, you just have to get better at timing it
wait timing actually matters?
signal aspen
yeah
coarse marten
how are you meant to time it I just do it the second it goes fully under
coarse marten
wait should I be doing it like earlier or later
signal aspen
when the thing goes into the water
coarse marten
yeah
signal aspen
you are asking the wrong person
^^^^^
i have gotten 1 rare fish
i think
and i dont even fish anymore
i dont have a use for the materials
red gust
but....visiting the chef
coarse marten
cheft best character
aspect of rana feels so clunky to use
like it takes so long to charge a shot
it makes so many easy bosses into an abosulte pain
high island
@coarse marten if you press the button within 340 msec, you get a Perfect Catch. Perfect Catches have a 50% chance to get a legendary and 50% chance to catch a rare fish. Normal catches have a 50% chance to catch a rare fish and 50% chance to get a common. The 50% was initially a bug, but by the time they discovered it, they liked how fishing results were working, so they kept it as is.
So ironically, rare fish are the most common, because you always have a 50% chance of catching one lol.
coarse marten
tnks I checked the wiki.
high island
There's a very distinct white flash just above the bobber when a fish is catching on. Just look for that and ignore the bobber.
sturdy sphinx
Ooh thanks for the tips
pallid raptor
guys, what does it mean to launch hades (dirextX / Vulkan / 32-bit) and what's better?
signal aspen
Im pretty sure they just change the appearance of the game
toxic bear
Ok, the last aspect of the spear is easily the worst weapon imo
The life loss is just too much
On the bright side, Ive beat the game with every weapon now,
Rail took a while but figured a good build
signal aspen
hidden spear and hidden fists are tied for the worst weapon in my opinion
toxic bear
I knew it! I havent got the hidden Fists yet but spear just feels awful
Excalibur is op though
Tank for days
modern garnet
When you level up hidden spear you increase the amount of health you have
signal aspen
No, decrease the amount of health you lose
that is literally the same thing
toxic bear
The problem is the healing is tied to the very bad charge mechanic
modern garnet
The charge mechanic is good especially when you have boons
Gy is stressful in tartarus and aspho, but halfway through elysium it becomes a breeze ime
toxic bear
Actually.. do you get any healing from dot boons like dionysious?
If the charge applies its status onto the enemy
signal aspen
healing from dot boons?
toxic bear
Or is it only the initial charged up attack (Spinning disk)
toxic bear
Ah k. Yeah knew that one.
signal aspen
the healing only comes from the damage from the spinny thing
toxic bear
Is there a certain strategy to getting certain boons? (Duo / Legendary
toxic bear
I see.
modern garnet
Do you mean for gy specifically
toxic bear
No just in general
modern garnet
Duo and leg boons have requirements
The sooner you get the requirements the sooner you'll get offered the boon
toxic bear
Yeah, but does it increase the chances if I say stick with only 2 gods for their boons
Instead of getting mulitple god boons
brisk trail
you make their pools smaller by picking more of their boons so yeah, kinda
brisk trail
also fill up your core slots it helps
toxic bear
Havent tried them all, but some Duos are really damn good
modern garnet
What's your favorite so far
toxic bear
The artemis / Zues combined with Stygious that drops the Casts
Now that was a fun build
Obliterated bosses without even attacking
signal aspen
for some reason i didnt like that boon
toxic bear
It multiples for each Cast on the ground
So each second with 3 or 4 out its dealing 300-400
So nuts
Combos great with Artemis cast because it instantly goes to the Boss so you can just dash in and drop them all with the special
Hades Call is tricky to figure out. Im sur ethere is a nuts God gauge build
signal aspen
hades call is great
its athena call with a speed and damage boost
but it can only be used at 50% and 100%
and runs out fast
toxic bear
Question. If you go invisible, does the enemy stop trying to attack you?
toxic bear
Oh wait.. Like your invincible?
signal aspen
if you are at 50% then if you attack then you will be seen again
toxic bear
You could stand in their way of the attack and not get hit?
toxic bear
Oh damn that is good. Ok defintley gonna have to give that another try
What happens if you get the duo boon to cap it at 25% but it recharges automatically
signal aspen
it will cap at 25% and recharges automatically
toxic bear
can you use it..
toxic bear
Ah i had a feeling
Am I correct in assuming that Divine dash is just staple.
Literally no other dash is on its level for me
toxic bear
There is better?
toxic bear
Poisdon on ranged though works
signal aspen
because the damage boost applies to the dash
toxic bear
Yeah, knockback on melee weapons (Except sheild) was pretty bad
Shield it actually turned out pretty good
Especially with the double hit upgrade
toxic bear
Charged shot was great. I like it much more than ramming
coarse marten
any tips for the aspect of rama?
toxic bear
Oh, curious. The stygian hammer to deal damage dealing to your gold..Is that worth it if you can save a ludicrous amount in the end?
signal aspen
any tips for the aspect of rama?
dash strike
signal aspen
Oh, curious. The stygian hammer to deal damage dealing to your gold..Is that wor...
yeah
toxic bear
Lol makes sense. Defintely gonna have to try a run with it
coarse marten
dash strike
you still have to chrage it for like 12 years though dont you
signal aspen
its faster when you dash strike
calm eagle
Question: Is it possible to swap up your mirror things without going back into your room? I end up goign back and forth between the courtyard and my room a lot
signal aspen
no
calm eagle
aw.
calm eagle
I tend to go with wahtever weapon has the darkness bonus so I have to kinda leave my room, check the weapon, then go back to the room to alter the mirror, then change the keepsake
serene marsh
Whoa, I just used the bats in the lounge for the first time, the view of the whole house is gorgeous
calm eagle
Yeah!
raven lava
i was just thinking
imagine if ||EM4|| buffed the Tiny Vermin
dusky wedge
i was just thinking
imagine if ||EM4|| buffed the Tiny Vermin
3/10, unplayable
coarse marten
what are teh best gods to use with beowolf
raven lava
Aphro, Poseidon, maybe Dio
You want to pick a cast that synergizes well with Beo’s thing
coarse marten
whats the general strat of using beo.
simple moat
Boonless runs are cute but what about single boon run with pom flower
I know im super late but thats actually a thing that has been done before a lot to try and get the highest possible boon level
I think the world record was a level 51 aphrodite cast
coarse marten
how much dmg?
simple moat
665
simple moat
whats the general strat of using beo.
From what i've seen typically you want to do a cast build with either dionysus cast (less consistent) or poseidon cast (more consistent)
rare gust
I discovered another jank
simple moat
For dio scintillating feast is really the name of the game
rare gust
If Skelly dies with the Boiling Blood tag
He drops them as collectible Bloodstones
Not that it actually does anything, but I wonder if they'd work with the Lightning Rod boon
ornate dragon
Poseidon
Is literally op
I thought he was the worst god
Until I played more and got up to heat 32
All the gods can pretty much be OP
hollow kettle
on my second playthrough it just so happened to line up perfectly where I got the post-clear 10 dialogue with Meg about "making things more official" right as I was able to give her the last ambrosia :D
late tiger
god i finally got merciful end in a build where i could use it well
i now see why everyone likes it so much
literally deleted health from the bosses
brisk trail
how come i dont have a bond with dusa even though i have all hearts with her
untold geyser
best builds for Chaos Shield?
steady sierra
Bruh there’s a kid called Hermes at this track meet, how perfect
sturdy sphinx
@untold geyser ares on special worked well for me but I'm not doing any high heat runs or anything. Something to proc privileged status on cast or attack. Maybe aphrodite attack. Shoot for the aphro / ares duo boon that makes doom hit repeatedly on weak people
wispy fossil
I'm doing pretty well in Hades i think. Around run thirty and I can reliably kill the fury sisters and have a good chance to kill the Hydra. Ive unlocked all the Mirror of Night upgrades and am currently trying to unlock the advisory room or whatever it is. Also, can you get access to the room to the right of where Nyx usually stands?
Other than escaping, gaining access to the room, and maxing out the Mirror of night, what should my current goal be?
echo garden
You’ve beat final boss?
Otherwise do heats
Buy all contractor upgrades that give an advantage
Like all diamond ones
Also grind prophecy book if you don’t know what to do
deft shell
Wait, the room to the right of Nyx is your bedroom
Maybe he means the ||garden/courtyard thing||
sturdy sphinx
Yeah def just try and beat final boss
red gust
spoiler
sturdy sphinx
My first clear was with shield
wispy fossil
Im assuming the final boss is gonna be Hades or Thanatos. Maybe Cerberus, but I dont know how I feel about fighting the best boy.
sturdy sphinx
The final boss is the friends you made along the way
wispy fossil
Also, i love the shield. It has a decent close range attack, a good long ranged attack, and an improved dash, as well as being able to defend yourself from attacks.
sturdy sphinx
Yeah being able to defend yourself is great
wispy fossil
Definately helps against Megs spray and pray attack.
compact badger
First clear with shield too. Nearly escaped with bow while derping a little, so I went full serious next time 😤
signal aspen
how come i dont have a bond with dusa even though i have all hearts with her
She needs to talk to you in your chambers, just keep talking to her until she wants to talk to you somewhere private
carmine ravine
Shield is fine, i like how safe it is, but i dont feel as fast as other wep with shield
craggy barn
it can be used defensively to protect yourself from damage and offensively to just destroy everything in your path
i like how versatile the shield is
carmine ravine
Nah i mean like for ranged weapons ill feel like ill have more room for movement while possibly having higher damage so im not sure how throwing shields, charged shot or bull rush can top that
snow reef
somehow managed to first-try a run with guan yu spear lvl 1, needless to say 30 health with a spin attack that heals like 2 hp max isn't my cup of tea
hollow hawk
they're just hard to use correctly
hollow hawk
somehow managed to first-try a run with guan yu spear lvl 1, needless to say 30 ...
dont use guan yu at lvl 1 Lol
It'll make you hate it
snow reef
fair enough, i just had 0 titan blood and needed to get the prophecy out of the way
hollow hawk
But congrats on the first try win eitherway
snow reef
i'll try it again at like lvl 3, maybe i'll have more fun
hollow hawk
Try it at lvl 5
And try to use the special on it more
And dont use its attack as often, just special and dash strike
snow reef
i honestly don't know how to properly use its special, i don't see a difference from any other aspect
hollow hawk
a decent guan yu build can one shot almost every enemy in the game, except for bosses
You don't have to recover its special
Unlike other spears
So you can use it special as a ranged weapon
snow reef
ah, fair, i guess i just never noticed since i tend to spam attack and spin on hades aspect lol
should probably not judge a weapon on its lvl 1 stats i suppose
hollow hawk
Yep
hollow kettle
if I ever get the inspiration I wanna write a fic about how the future wielders who give you the waking phrases end up getting their infernal arms
like Artemis getting Coronacht or Asterius getting Malphon
lethal hawk
clicking on a boon has a registering effect. what's the purpose of that ?
hollow kettle
wym a registering effect
lethal hawk
hollow kettle
oh, it only shows the description of a few boons at a time so that's like selecting which ones you want to show up
lethal hawk
ah understood
modern garnet
It's mostly for the end screen, so you can select which boons were most useful
And show off
craggy barn
does anyone have images of charged skewer, breaching skewer and quick spin as hammer choices? send it/them to me in dms
nevermind
manic moat
do I smell a meme being made?
craggy barn
not really
cobalt mist
should i get hades on switch or pc
my pc barely meets the reccomended spec
hollow hawk
id recommend to get it on switch if thats the case
though even switch struggles a bit with the game when theres lots of stuff on screen (which isnt often, but still just something to note)
karmic hare
I have it on switch and have had no problems in my 100 hours of playing (yea I know rookie numbers)
vapid narwhal
depending on spec
lower end PCs might still be better than the switch version
unless you need it for portability
abstract forge
pog i killed thesus with full revives thats a first
modern garnet
To many more! 
abstract forge
modern garnet
Going into styx with 3 DDs consistently was a real turning point in my progression
abstract forge
i hope i dont die to hades for the 6th damn time again
poison in styx makes my life pain
why does poison exist
modern garnet
That spitting sound haunts my dreams
abstract forge
yes
modern garnet
I wonder who voiced the satyrs...
abstract forge
YES I FOUND THE SACK POGGER POGGER POGGER
modern garnet
GL out there, in the cold
abstract forge
yoooo im gonna fight hades with 4 revives less go
modern garnet
So... howd it gooo
tight cave
My friend is struggling against Hades
Has he tried not dying?
brisk trail
Not sure about that
brisk trail
Yeah, actually possible not to die on the way there.
abstract forge
i am in a long pause
craggy barn
how do i make this not look like it's saying to alternatively start with acorn and not alternatively take acorn into elysium
this is horrific formatting even for a first time lmao
abstract forge
i love skelly
craggy barn
oh wait big brain
manic moat
what is this for if I may ask
brisk trail
nice
tardy vessel
Is Spammy making a trinket guide? Neato
craggy barn
i finally finished the guide and i can't make it public because i'm a limited account
pain
i have no idea how any of this works so
"error"
ok then
craggy barn
i can't put funds into my steam account because i legitimately don't know how to
unless someone gives me a $5 steam wallet code or something this guide will never see the light of day
i could at least post screenshots of the sections here but that would 100% flood the channel
and i can't go living up to my own name in this server now
vapid narwhal
i can't put funds into my steam account because i legitimately don't know how to
why? I thought Steam lifts the limit once you bought like 10 bucks worth of things on Steam?
tardy vessel
i can't put funds into my steam account because i legitimately don't know how to
User (Top right) -> Account details
tho yeah kinda bad on steam's part
you shouldn't have to do this
craggy barn
why? I thought Steam lifts the limit once you bought like 10 bucks worth of thin...
about 5 dollars, that's just as cheap as it gets and guess who's cheaper
vapid narwhal
buy SGG's older games when it's on sale then!
craggy barn
i friend gifted me hades for christmas and i don't wanna have to ask him for 5 dollars for this
rapid agate
it's in the blood is so damn good
signal aspen
yeah its great
rapid agate
i pity my friend
he beat the game once and doesn't wanna do it again
i tried to convince him
signal aspen
yeah
tardy cypress
he beat the game once and doesn't wanna do it again
manic moat
tardy vessel
A question from the nontechnical side: While trying to look up Hermes' favor, I noticed the Fandom wiki having changed some key pages to a mobile-default layout that not at all works on desktop.
Can anyone replicate this, or is this due to my cookies? And if this is their new direction, do we have any alternative resources I can use instead?
The wiki also doesn't list Charm as a status curse, despite the game treating it as one, as far as I know
signal aspen
i dont know how to fix that, but for the hermes favor you have to max his keepsake and talk to him
signal aspen
np
signal aspen
~~Wiki does note charm, apparently doesn't count?~~
i think that the game ignores charm and uses weak as a curse
tardy vessel
Strange. Codex does note Charm as a status curse, though.
I can believe it doesn't count, since that interpretation matches the "1 curse per god" pattern, but it's a bit contradictory.
I'll test if I can activate the Punished conditional with Aphrodite
coarse marten
anyone else think a DLC where you fight the Roman gods would be cool. Imo Janus should be the first and final boss in it.
rare gust
So it's been noted that if you fight Hades without any olympian boons he has hidden dialogue
My question is, is the same applicable for without Nyx's mirror?
vale kite
meg has lines for if you get to her/beat her without any mirror upgrades
signal aspen
anyone else think a DLC where you fight the Roman gods would be cool. Imo Janus ...
have you noticed that most of the roman gods are the same as greek gods
vale kite
there is also a title for if you clear a run without the mirror's help
brisk trail
how do i learn to play the lyre?
craggy barn
practice, patience, persistence
brisk trail
and that means what exactly?
craggy barn
keyword: persistence
signal aspen
slap it until you learn to play
brisk trail
thats all? damn ok
coarse marten
have you noticed that most of the roman gods are the same as greek gods
Yeah I kinda always wanted a real bossfight with the greek gods but the whole boons system would not make sense then so makin git the romans seemed like an easy solution
exotic delta
Is there a guide somewhere that tells you what you need to do for each god to get to gifting them ambrosia?
brisk trail
the wiki
you can look at their pages and under the "favor" tab thats what unlocks them
brisk trail
i swear how long does this lyre thing take
ive been sitting here pressing my keyboard forl ike 10 minutes straight now
dusky wedge
Pretty long
dusky wedge
Just remember to play it once during each run and you’ll get it eventually
Not even sure if spamming it helps tbh, can’t remember
brisk trail
does it ahve to be with runs in between or can i do it in one sitting
signal aspen
ive been sitting here pressing my keyboard forl ike 10 minutes straight now
200 more times dude
brisk trail
no way it only counts 1 time per minute
grave bloom
Hello
brisk trail
yeah ok but like does it not work in one sitting
signal aspen
hello
it does
it will take you an hour or two
for some reason there is a long delay as you get closer to learning it
tardy vessel
hades lyre any%
grave bloom
How many levels does hades have?
signal aspen
you play the same thing over and over again
modern garnet
how many rooms?
grave bloom
Yup
modern garnet
there's 70-75 rooms
dusky wedge
You can get as much as 79 I guess
grave bloom
So after elysium there's only place to clear right?
dusky wedge
79 is farthest I’ve got
grave bloom
Oh ok
signal aspen
wait does erebus and chaos count as chambers
grave bloom
I'm playing for 3 days and already cleared 37 floors tho lost at elysium boss
signal aspen
so probably 80 rooms
signal aspen
I'm playing for 3 days and already cleared 37 floors tho lost at elysium boss
one floor per day
nice
grave bloom
@signal aspen why one floor per day?
signal aspen
3 days 3 floors
dusky wedge
He meant one biome per day
grave bloom
Oh
signal aspen
yeah
grave bloom
But still new
dusky wedge
Pretty good stuffs, took me longer to get to the heroes
This game slaps me hard at first until I learn to dash strike
dusky wedge
These days, my go-to is the fists
grave bloom
Melee is a bit risky
dusky wedge
Dash striking all day long
grave bloom
Especially at second floor
signal aspen
fists are great
signal aspen
nope
no more
hades is done
nah jk
the devs have not confirmed anything though
signal aspen
yeah same
dusky wedge
How often does the updates come in the past?
signal aspen
well i think they came out often in the past
but that was because it was early access and they were adding things for the full game
now most updates are bug fixes
dusky wedge
I’ve played this game since early this year and I’ve got one update I think
dusky wedge
There’s one update that haven’t come in on consoles yet, right?
signal aspen
i dont think so
dusky wedge
Saw the latest patch notes in #hades-patch-notes
modern garnet
the consoles might be a few bug fixes behind
toxic bear
I really like how the "loop" is solidly under half an hour (Not counting time outside of choosing boons and shops)
Never past 27 min
Most of the time I will finish a run, look at my clock and say "Yeah, i got time" and go again
signal aspen
I really like how the "loop" is solidly under half an hour (Not counting time ou...
if a run takes 15 min then it will be about 25 min irl
dusky wedge
Yeah, hades is crazy fast, makes speedrunning more fun
toxic bear
Havent tried a speedrun yet, Still having fun just progressing the story with the olympians
Im pretty sure im gonna 100% the game
After story I plan to then turn up the heat. Literally
signal aspen
After story I plan to then turn up the heat. Literally
literally
you mean you gonna turn up the heat in your house
dusky wedge
Gotta run it at 250fps
signal aspen
nice
toxic bear
But IM gonna try and see how far I can get it to before it becomes a difficult challenge
dusky wedge
The heats are pretty variable there’s going to be occasions where some lower heat setups can be harder than some higher heat setups
signal aspen
The heats are pretty variable there’s going to be occasions where some lower hea...
no mirror is harder than 32 heat
dusky wedge
I tried doing a fresh file hell mode run some few weeks ago and the game stomps me hard
No mirror is hell
toxic bear
Also Bosses from Hardest to Weakest
- Charron - Hits like a truck and very minimal movment space. Really hard if I dont have a divine dash. Tend to avoid.
- Hades - Still havent mastered and ocasionally die if Im not thinking straight. About 75% winrate now. (Higher with a good build)
- Asterious and Thesus. - Ive got used to this fight so I can now beat the non heat version about 90% of the time. Heat version is a bit trickier but a good challenge.
- Meg / Fury sisters - Though the first boss, they can hit hard sometimes if Im not careful due to the amount of hit boxes being thrown about and so early in the game.
- Lernie. - Actually never died after my 3rd try. Very easy .
signal aspen
bosses hardest to weakest
charon>em2 lernie because of the lava>hades>furies>heroes
dusky wedge
I never once died to Lernie, she’s that easy. Of course, the heroes have stomp my backside more times than I can remember though 
toxic bear
Lernie with the lava just takes more thinking of placement.
toxic bear
Heros I seperate The two behind the pillars, so taht the spears never hit
dusky wedge
Of course if we’re counting lost DD’s, then yes, I’ve lost some DD’s to lernie