h1-discussion

[severe dust]

Ditto

[barren ocean]

As much as I love the game not sure I should by a physical as well lol

[weary lantern]

How you guys feel about a dlc you think it will become reality?

[barren ocean]

Possibly there's tons of poasibilites

[toxic perch]

FOR DLC

PLS

[signal aspen]

wait

[toxic perch]

thanatos and zagreus

[signal aspen]

i just realized what that is

[barren ocean]

Lol

[brisk trail]

no physical in be/ne

[barren ocean]

This isnt a dating sim so I doubt

[toxic perch]

say sike now

[barren ocean]

I would like to see stages in like Olympus possibly

Or like Gods as bosses

[signal aspen]

i hope they add olympus into the game

[weary lantern]

Yea, be easy to narrate a storry where olympus finds out what is going on and now you got to go kick their ass

[barren ocean]

Have you gotten to the epilogue of the game

Cause I doubt that is gonna happen

[weary lantern]

Epilogue is a hard word, what does that even mean 😛 ? I just beat the game like 3 rounds and now i keep doing runs to keep the facade up

if thats what you mean

[acoustic quartz]

epilogue is like

[barren ocean]

No there like story ending

[acoustic quartz]

the after story

[barren ocean]

You get a cutscene

After the credits theres more story

[weary lantern]

ah

[barren ocean]

Keep playing:)))

[signal aspen]

post ending

[barren ocean]

But for that reason ima say no to like having to beat up the gods

Unless it's like for sport lol

[weary lantern]

Yea im still going hard 😄 I was abit suprised when I got to the "end" since Im still not very far into the game but then there is more story to come

[barren ocean]

I think it too me 130ish runs to get to the epilogue

[weary lantern]

Okay

[barren ocean]

That varies a lot tho

Between players

[weary lantern]

Then everyone should say so 😄

[signal aspen]

it will take 20-30 clears to get the epilogue

if you focus on it

[barren ocean]

Mm its luck based tho

[signal aspen]

yeah kinda

a little bit of luck

[rapid agate]

time to buy hades

phys edition

[barren ocean]

Also at that point I was like 50 clears in

[weary lantern]

Right now my focus is just clearing game with every weapon to get some extra bloods and focus on a "main" weapon and try to get high heat

[rapid agate]

i knew i wanted it on switch eventually

[weary lantern]

athena dash must be one of the strongest single boons in the game? Like if you got the rng it makes lernie useless, helps well with all bosses neglect so much damage

[acoustic quartz]

yea thats why athena dash is recommended for starting players to get their first few wins

[hybrid summit]

the silence before the storm

[weary lantern]

Yea i can really see why

[weak spruce]

lol I finished my 100th run, nyx is only just now saying that I have pact of punishment

dialogues in this game sometimes make zero sense cuz of the rng

[half zephyr]

It’s priority

That line is low

[weak spruce]

very low

[weary lantern]

Can you use keepsake in two realms? For instance I used athena in second and did not get what i wanted can i keep it in third too and it still works ?

[manic bobcat]

Hades physical?

[signal aspen]

technically

[manic bobcat]

Hmmm

[signal aspen]

if you dont change it

but gods keepsakes dont work twice

[weary lantern]

Okay, yea that i noticed

[signal aspen]

you can look right below the keepsake

and see an arrow with a number

thats how many times you can use it

if there is no number then you either already used it or it is infinite

[weary lantern]

I see no arrow with number hmm

[manic bobcat]

Depends on the keepsake.
Note that for God keepsake the "forcing" works only once, but the rarity is on as long as you have it.

[weary lantern]

so maybe its used up

[signal aspen]

what keepsake are you using

if athena then yes

[weary lantern]

Athenas

[signal aspen]

yeah

[weary lantern]

okay the forcing I want

[signal aspen]

you can only force multiple gods

but not the same god twice

[weary lantern]

Yea okay, then I go for acorne instead

[manic bobcat]

Yeah

Acorn does refresh

Fortunately. You can hold on to it for as long as you need

[weary lantern]

Yea that i always use in 3th and 4th realm

[manic bobcat]

Good choice

[weary lantern]

I hope i get hades keepsake soon because apparently that is also good

[signal aspen]

yeah

i think its the best call in the game

but it runs out fast

[manic moat]

I don't think acorn is viable for ||EM4||

[manic bobcat]

Depends, it can be.

[grand crystal]

i mean it also depends on heat :/

[toxic perch]

dionysus thighs are just... gorgeous

[signal aspen]

what

[grand crystal]

yep

[quartz garden]

Is it possible to have full hearts with a character, dusa in my case, but not being „bonded“ to them? I do not have Dusa‘s little face on her keepsake even though it’s 3 stars and I have full hearts with her 😦

[signal aspen]

yes

you have to unlock them

also for dusa you need to talk to her in your chambers

[quartz garden]

more talking I guess?

[signal aspen]

yep

and a lot of rng

[quartz garden]

thank you

[signal aspen]

i think you will get the correct dialogue when she is right outside your chambers

like next to the locked(?) gate

[toxic perch]

why would you want to marry dusa

ew

[signal aspen]

what

[toxic perch]

she is just a head

[signal aspen]

no

[toxic perch]

and probably 14 yo

[signal aspen]

she is a head with more heads

[quartz garden]

a head has its use

[signal aspen]

snake heads

[signal aspen]

this is greek mythology

doesnt really matter what happens

crazy stuff happens

[half zephyr]

Dusa is Medusa

She’s not 14

[quartz garden]

and it‘s all okay since zagreus is a god and gods do crazy stuff.

iirc that’s the explanation in the story

[signal aspen]

also dont kink shame

you think i didnt see what you said

[half zephyr]

Seriously -_-

[toxic perch]

i deleted incase a mod sees

lol

[signal aspen]

https://youtu.be/OnjCC8UqY7E

warning spoilers

[toxic perch]

i was hoping vermin would give me 2 hearts

not 200 gold

[signal aspen]

what

look at chamber rewards

[toxic perch]

im talking about death defiance

not centaur hearts

[signal aspen]

why would vermin give you 2 DDs

[toxic perch]

because its hella hard and soul consuming

[signal aspen]

like every boss you just need to learn attack patterns

then you will realize that the vermin isnt that hard

[toxic perch]

its harder than hades tho

[signal aspen]

how?

[oblique sun]

how

[signal aspen]

no second phase

[oblique sun]

10k hp

[signal aspen]

"second phase"

[toxic perch]

i fought hades with no heart and 125 hp

[oblique sun]

hades has more than 20k hp in just one phase

[toxic perch]

and at second phase i left him at %5

but vermin took both of my hearts

[signal aspen]

then you just dont know how to fight vermin

[oblique sun]

that's because you just need to learn the patterns??

that doesn't mean it's harder it's just that you're less experienced with it

[toxic perch]

what pattern you expect me to see...

[signal aspen]

he charges at you

spawns other vermin

[half zephyr]

Vermin is super easy after the first couple times

[signal aspen]

digs underground and relocates

[oblique sun]

it teleports so you need to learn to chase it, it can charge or do aoe damage,

yeah that's a bit like tp'ing

[toxic perch]

vermin is a troll boss to bamboozle newbies

[half zephyr]

Just don’t underestimate him

[signal aspen]

yeah

[oblique sun]

i'm just wondering how he keeps coming back

[half zephyr]

The giant satyr is more annoying imo

[signal aspen]

yeah

[oblique sun]

yeah because it can instakill you in a lot of situations

[signal aspen]

stupid poison

[oblique sun]

7 stacks of poison before you even know it and "DEATH DEFIED"

[half zephyr]

Even the giant snakestone is more annoying then King Vermin

[oblique sun]

idk i don't get it often

the dire bother is the easier

[half zephyr]

I always seem to get it on melee

[signal aspen]

yeah

[oblique sun]

i only ever use melee~~

[half zephyr]

I follow the darkness

I can’t control what I get to use

[toxic perch]

im fighting hades with no heart 245 hp and chiron bow with 8 arrows and dioynisous poison

im screwed

[signal aspen]

nah

[oblique sun]

oh fair enough shadow lol

[signal aspen]

thats a great build

just play safe

[half zephyr]

But with Vermin it’s just - take out big rats when they pop up & target the glowing target at all other times

[toxic perch]

also i guess dioynious and aphro doesnt combine

[signal aspen]

they do

[half zephyr]

They do

[toxic perch]

why i didnt get that then... wtf

i literally choose only them

[signal aspen]

what aphro boons do you have

[half zephyr]

You need the right boons

[toxic perch]

lmao

nvm im in fight

bb

[half zephyr]

And you are not guaranteed a duo

[indigo canopy]

has there been anything major besides bug fixes added since 1.0?

[half zephyr]

Nope

Just a physical release & a hades music kit in csgo afaik

Nothing in the core game itself

[indigo canopy]

ah i see, i do hope it continues to receive love

[oblique sun]

it's probably hard to add lore given that it's pretty full story

[half zephyr]

Mhmm

Can’t really add much more without breaking it

[indigo canopy]

it didn’t start off as the full game it was in early access being built piece by piece

[half zephyr]

Yes, that is what EA is

But 1.0 is the full release

[oblique sun]

well, piece by piece they built a full story, i don't think i understand what you mean..?

[half zephyr]

With everything added as they imagined it

And more

[oblique sun]

puzzles aren't infinite you build them piece by piece to complete it--

[indigo canopy]

they could always add more pieces

[half zephyr]

Not really

[toxic perch]

12 hp

[half zephyr]

Not anymore

[toxic perch]

going into 2nd stage

oh no

[oblique sun]

it's pretty hard adding pieces on a border

shira just stay very far away from him

[toxic perch]

LMAO

[half zephyr]

There’s a whole ending & epilogue now

[toxic perch]

I DIED TO THE DAMN SECOND PHse explosion

wtf

[oblique sun]

yeah uh as i was saying

[indigo canopy]

there’s so much more that could be done if they wanted to

[toxic perch]

i was in the edge

of the river

lol

[oblique sun]

it's hard to add lore without breaking the current story, same as it is hard to add a piece without cutting the puzzle to stick in there

[toxic perch]

just make thanzag series

[half zephyr]

Not everyone is interested in that though

But I’m sure you can find some fan art artists who either will do it or have already done it

[oblique sun]

shira i think we understand you like yaoi

[signal aspen]

i hate that i know what that means

[half zephyr]

[toxic perch]

no you dont

[narrow hemlock]

supergiant has gone on record in a reddit ama that they put everything they had into the 1.0 release.

[remote lily]

Hades is biggest SGG game, I think they never expected that it will be so popular. 1M copies in one week after release (including Early Access) is huge. I would not be surprised if the number already exceed 3M

[sonic acorn]

chances of dlc / updates?

[remote lily]

Only thing that we know is planned is Japan release.

and knowing that Switch sells in japan like crazy (over 15M switches, only 2020) will give them quite huge boost in sales.

Also, now, physical release. Its first worldwide premiere for them, its huge too.

Its first time you will find their game in retail stores. Not only digital, or Limited run edition

[sonic acorn]

asking because this seems to be their biggest game ever (the contradicting thing is that they have not ever created a dlc before)

[glad dagger]

Grats on the CSGO cross promotion, SG!

[sonic acorn]

ohhhh

thats why i got one today

its fricking amazing

my first ever music track

[fickle thicket]

He hey, does someone know why i didn't get the music kit from hades (i recently got the 5 hours and i am playing Hades using family share system) ?

[coarse island]

hey folks, what do i get if i max affinity with Skelly?

[half zephyr]

I only know you need 5h logged on steam

[fickle thicket]

Ye, i got it, but i didn't get the music kit

[cerulean ferry]

You get his companion after the lock and just his bond maxed if you max him iirc

[coarse island]

alright, then i'll save the ambrosia

[wary hollow]

Soooooo.... cough when is hades getting an artbook so I can spend more money? 👀👀👀

XD

[narrow hemlock]

theres no word on further merch, as of current

[velvet gale]

Anyone got the physical version? Just wondering how it runs compared to digital if anyone knows.

[toxic perch]

i am prepared asf for hades

and vermin

and charon

[velvet gale]

I m not ordered my copy with local retainer (in this case probably resaller) will take likely until 29/30(another item releasing 26/3) before I can play on switch. Still curious how long will loadings bte.

[toxic perch]

wtf

[bronze mortar]

i want them to make more gods in hades with more boons and more weapons and abilities

[surreal condor]

I'm surprised there isnt a thing in the fated list for when you unlock all hidden aspects

[weary lantern]

Watched a video on hades where it was explained that you get 4 gods each run and two of these you can affect with keepsakes, if you however get a god you dont want and sell it you are eligiable for a new one. Is this correct?

[manic bobcat]

No. Selling a God (even with every boons from that God) doesn't remove them from the pool.

The only way to force new ones in to the pool (if already full) is by using keepsake.

[tight cave]

Just had my first death in at least 14 runs. Tiny vermin took 2 of my DDs.

[glossy socket]

Wow, I have to say I am disappointing with the Hades physical booklet. I thought it would be at least a little larger than this. I really hope a limited physical release or standalone artbook comes out in the future.

[manic bobcat]

Did you get the physical copy already?

[glossy socket]

I received it today yea. I wanted to buy it again and support the project anyways. I was just excited about getting a little something out of it and, well it is little.

[weary lantern]

So If i were to choose from a god room and a coin room i go with coin room im safe from the actual god adding to the pool? I need collect it right?

[oblique sun]

i mean there is a prophecy for each individual aspect so that's close enough

[oblique sun]

the god will only disappear if you fill all 4 slots with keepsakes iirc

[surreal condor]

I guess it is, although is is just a little frustrating

[glossy socket]

The book is about 3.25" wide and 4.5" tall. Fit above the game cart rather than on the left side of the case where a typical manual might go.

[weary lantern]

Yea but lets say i see a Aphro room but decide to go with the other room choice is she still forced into the pool

[manic bobcat]

That yes. Unless you already have them. But if you see them for the first time, you can skip.

[weary lantern]

Okay cool

[manic bobcat]

She is not forced into the pool if you skip the first time you see them.

[weary lantern]

Okay great I made big misstakes in all my runs actually thinking i rather just take a god room instead of coin etc because whatever it cant hurt

not knowing it actually affects rooms in the future

so this is good to know

[manic bobcat]

Yeah if you want to optimize your runs it's better to be picky of who you let in

Sometimes people even refuse certain boons because it dilutes their options.

[weary lantern]

Can you actually refuse boons?

Also you know if... lets say i take a zeuz dash just because It's the best boon to choose from at the moment but i actually want a posedion later

do they game know i already have a dash boon and try to give me other options

I had the chance to trade boons several times, so It does not feel like it but who knows

[manic bobcat]

By refuse I mean pick other options

[weary lantern]

Oh right

[manic bobcat]

For example, if yoy want ME and you see Aphrodite, you don't want weak boons because that enables Curse of Longings. You go for non-weak options instead

[weary lantern]

Had no idea and I just started playing ME or atleast trying to

[manic bobcat]

It's just playing the odds. Usually you don't need to min max to that extreme

[hardy arrow]

I believe the game prioritizes empty slots. So if you leave your dash empty Poseidon is more likely to offer you a dash than he is to offer you a trade.

[weary lantern]

Oka but still good to know

[velvet gale]

From my experiecnes if you have empty attack/special/cast or dash you get at least one offered, though no more than 2 unless very first boon.

[manic bobcat]

Yup, that's why some people think that drunken dash is sometimes worse than just having no dash

[weary lantern]

Okay, thats also really helpfull because i sometimes filled slots i actually want other gods for with random stuff just to get better damage

[manic bobcat]

Because druken dash blocks other dash oons from getting in

[weary lantern]

it's more to building than i ever could imagine but that is also good because that mean I can improve

[manic bobcat]

The reverse is also true. If you really want Lightning Strike for some reason, it's smart to fill cast dash special with some other stuff. So when you see Zeus you are more likely to be offered light strike because it's prioritized.

[weary lantern]

I had some really bad runs but i now understand I am probably a big reason for it

[weary lantern]

Yea true

[cunning cradle]

i'm trying to romance than but he keeps talking with other people

[oblique sun]

he's shy

[brisk trail]

So basically, I have to beat Megara with all weapons for Titan blood.

[unborn remnant]

yes

[oblique sun]

yeah, but you should probably move to #h1-for-new-players

[unborn remnant]

you get used to it

[cunning cradle]

also finishing a run gets you titan blood

[brisk trail]

Finishing my first run would be ages away lol

Forgot to say I don’t mind spoilers

[oblique sun]

Hamelin i know this is not #h1-for-new-players but yeah player's clearly early game so i guess let's not spoil ;P

okay okay

you win lol

[cunning cradle]

@brisk trail try using the shield

being able to block anything is wow

very good to finish your first run

[brisk trail]

Oh sure, I’ll give it a try.

[cunning cradle]

@oblique sun my bad, didn't think that a material could be spoiler

[oblique sun]

it's not really a big deal i was just trying to play it safe but i guess they don't care

[cunning cradle]

kk

[hushed charm]

just got the csgo music kit

feeling pog

[solid shell]

I'm trying to learn no escape on bass guitar (that i just got today)

[trail pendant]

I remember that once I nearly defeated Dad boss on EM4

so close

[manic bobcat]

👋

[brisk trail]

i got the physical of the game!

[manic bobcat]

Do you own a digital copy also or?

[brisk trail]

oh yeah!

anyway: -flips the switch cover art so the outside art displays-

i also...got a code for a shiny toxicity for pokemon sword/shield

thanks eb games?

[hushed charm]

pog

[stoic geyser]

Same, my physical arrived

[timid vine]

greg got that gameing chaer

[quiet mortar]

im trying to get the 20% lambent plume achievement and i'm at 19.9% with 1 styx room left

this is pain

[hushed charm]

oof

[rustic oasis]

cerberus petting hours

[lusty crane]

It is now legal requirement to make videogame dogs pettable

[hushed charm]

yes

[unborn remnant]

its true

[rustic oasis]

indeed

[unborn remnant]

anybody do any good runs today?

[hushed charm]

had an alright one

i nearly completed the second area

but health went bye bye

[unborn remnant]

thats tough

have you not had a clear yet

[hushed charm]

nope

got the game 2 days ago

plus i've got school

so i can't really playthrough the game during class lol

[narrow hemlock]

it gets easier as you keep playing

[lusty crane]

You eventually get to the point where nothing scares you anymore

[unborn remnant]

true

[lusty crane]

Except for the later bosses which i will not name to not spoil

[unborn remnant]

good idea

[craggy barn]

i'm surprised the final boss is still a big deal, the dude is so prominent throughout the whole game that it's just like "guess who the final boss is??? :))))" as if there aren't like several arrows pointing toward them

[modern temple]

even so, it's a popular game and new players are constantly joining

ig in my opinion, since we can say 'final boss' and everyone who knows gets what we mean, there's no reason to spoil newcomers

[timber dove]

YESSS! just got back elysium for the first time

[hushed charm]

nice

[timber dove]

I've got cluster bombs and in these small rooms I am just unloading

dided to a boss satyre 😦

[midnight garnet]

will the art book be available outside the physical release of the game?

[narrow hemlock]

its not really an art book, its a printed version of all the character portraits you see ingame. but as far as we know, no, its a bonus specifically for the physical copy of the game

[remote vector]

Hi I’m obsessed

Anyone know if there will be dlc or expansion updates

[quaint wind]

they've said nothing on the matter thus far

[remote vector]

Ah man

I’m getting towards the final boss and was wondering

[winter zinc]

are we allowed to discuss mods?

and if so, are there any good hades mods that aren't for making the game easier?

[blissful mica]

cool to see the game get a physical release

supergiant has earned it

game is fantastic

[winter zinc]

yea :D

[rocky patrol]

I didn’t know there was romance in hades, interesting

[narrow hemlock]

@winter zinc the hades modding server is pinned in #self-promotion, you might want to check that out

mods arent generally discussed here as it could confuse players, you might have better luck asking the modding server

[winter zinc]

i see - thank you!

[rocky patrol]

What’s the best bow aspect

[covert mason]

I like Chiron :)

[rocky patrol]

Chiron seems like a cool one

[acoustic quartz]

chiron is the one i use most

rama is pretty good too

[rocky patrol]

I already chose Chiron

Chiron seems neat

[acoustic quartz]

yea chiron is the easiest one to use imo

[rocky patrol]

I started off with some good boons and a good hammer

Not a god run but a pretty good one for me

[rocky patrol]

Wish me luck I got to hades

I lost

[surreal condor]

A story in one part

[acoustic quartz]

my god heightened security is so punishing

almost beat hades but i ran into an urn and it dealt 150 damage 😔

[restive cave]

heart rend or mirage shot on hestia build?

[brisk trail]

Heart Rend.

[winter zinc]

i love hera personally

[novel citrus]

hey guys, if i get a duo boon and then sell a prerequisite for that said duo boon, will it become invalid or does it still act normally

[acoustic quartz]

it still acts normally iirc

i think ive done that before but cant remember for sure

[novel citrus]

welp.. i guess i'll find out in the next 2 encounters i'll help you remeber lol

[acoustic quartz]

lmao

i mean the duo boon will still be there so should still work

[novel citrus]

ok... uhh test invalid.. i completely goofed. it was for dyonisis cast with zeus lightning... and i sold the cast part of it LOLOLOL

[acoustic quartz]

bruh if its like that of course it would stop working lmao

[novel citrus]

yea...... didnt think that one through...

[acoustic quartz]

i thought you were talking about smth like merciful end then selling athena flourish or smth

[novel citrus]

i mean, in that regard.... it /should/ still work right?

[acoustic quartz]

if you have another athena boon

it should yea

[novel citrus]

note to self : dont sell the activation part of the boon

[hardy thistle]

on the talk above

i think rama is the best

very good versatile special builds
insane damage on attack

[stoic bronze]

Is there a way to get certain boons other then keepsakes

Wanting to get 2 specific boons from Athens and a few from Zeus and Poseideon but the boons I need for the list never show up

[acoustic quartz]

i dont think there is a way to make them show up other than the keepsakes

but the boons you have on you have higher chance of spawning iirc

if you have dark foresight it also makes the chances of boon rooms spawning higher so yea

[stoic bronze]

What's dark foresight?

[acoustic quartz]

mirror upgrade

its in the final section of the mirror

[stoic bronze]

The one with 30 keys?

[acoustic quartz]

yes

[stoic bronze]

Oh ok thanks

For info

[acoustic quartz]

yea np

[distant quiver]

I just had the most OP run ever.

Aspect of Poseidon, fully loaded, greater Recall, purple flurry Cast, purple artemis Cast, 2 purple Chaos boons for cast bonus +148%, exit wounds, you name it, for that type of build I had it. Never seen so many arrows, you'd think I was using Chiron.

Actually the only boon I was missing would have been Mirage Shot

for a crit caster build

[silk river]

big oof

Just picked up my 2nd curse of chaos, 1 gives 59% more foes, the second gives +48% more foes... thank god for aoe!

[hollow hawk]

i literally never pick roiling

unless its like insanely good and the others are just very very bad

[silk river]

I was doing naegling's board full dionysus build... the others had damage on cast, or damage on attack...

The two cost me 2 DD across 4 rooms

[craggy barn]

td3 taught me that roiling is horrible and you should never take it

[silk river]

TD3?

[oblique sun]

tight deadline

[silk river]

oh, duh lol

[oblique sun]

what does roiling do again

i don't have chaos curses memorized

oh more foes

[silk river]

increases the amount of enemies you face in regular encounters

[oblique sun]

yeah you should never take that lmao

especially with jury summons, it becmoes just stupid

[opal oar]

So like, if the staff are in the discord are they seeing the nonsense I'm typing?

They're not paying attention to us right

Like if I call the main character "zigzag" half the time they don't know right they're above this

[tight cave]

I mean, Zigzag is such low-hanging fruit I doubt it isn't the Zagreus nickname of choice of at least someone at Supergiant.

In all seriousness though, based on their messages they seem to stick to relevant channels and ask-supergiant. Doesn't prove or disprove that they do/don't check out other channels from time to time though.

[half zephyr]

you never know if they might peek at the chats, but at the same time, why should it matter

they might get a laugh at some of the things we write

[opal oar]

It's probably like, statistically unlikely that they'll see anything I say. Like an eclipse

[half zephyr]

eclipses happen quite often though

[opal oar]

... Wait no I mean a transit

[half zephyr]

total eclipses are a different matter, but even then some places have them more often

[opal oar]

Like when venus goes in front of the sun??

[half zephyr]

ye, not an eclipse then

[opal oar]

Whatever I will continue my nonsense regardless and hope nobody at supergiant sees me slag off their main for theoretically drinking sketchy river water

[tight cave]

Some "unlikely" things happen quite often thanks to the internet. If I can tag one of the most famous YouTubers out there in fanart on Twitter and get a like from them literally a second later (actually happened with Jacksepticeye fanart of mine), you might be able to get secretly noticed by someone at Supergiant 😆

[silk river]

How about when our solar system makes a full orbit around the milky way?

[half zephyr]

when does he drink it tho?

[opal oar]

Idk on the surface? 🤷‍♀️ The water up there is probably more sketch

[half zephyr]

but zag doesn't drink anything but the blood of gods for speed

and maybe some nectar with his buddies

[opal oar]

Like nobody's alive in the underworld to have their cities drain into the Styx

[tight cave]

Kiss of Styx tho.

[half zephyr]

he refuses to drink from the water cooler

[half zephyr]

I always saw that as him getting a kiss from the Godess Styx

[opal oar]

I saw it as an ancient, magic, cherry flavour Capri sun

[half zephyr]

I don't go around saying I kissed my drinks when I had them

or touched them

or was touched by them

[opal oar]

There's drinks called an "xyz kiss" tho

[half zephyr]

I wouldn't know

never heard of it

[opal oar]

There's a drink called a French kiss

[half zephyr]

shudder

sounds disgusting

[opal oar]

Dracula's kiss, Russian kiss

[half zephyr]

ye, no kisses for me please

[oblique sun]

i know i'm fairly young but every eclipse that i know would have been happening during my waking times was at night where i live so i basically could not attend a single eclipse that has happened since i was born, or i guess since i learnt about sun eclipses--

[opal oar]

They're mixed drinks named after the alcohol in them I think like a Russian kiss has vodka

[oblique sun]

idk why i felt like adding that

[half zephyr]

coctails don't count >.>

they're just weird names to sell drinks

though it is fun to order a virgin cuba libre

[opal oar]

Ooh a blushing kiss has pink grapefruit!

Yum

[half zephyr]

yes, I'd like a rum & coke without rum please

[opal oar]

That's fair

[silk river]

I used to go to this bar nearby before the pandemic. They had the best drink they called an A.M.F. (short for Adios MF)

[opal oar]

Oooh

[half zephyr]

anyways, I leaves chat

gots to watch movie

bai

[opal oar]

Have fun!

[silk river]

Have fun w/ your movie!

Yeah hey are great, nice and fruity, barely taste the booze, and hit like a truck

[oblique sun]

have fun shadow

[tight cave]

Looked it up. Vodka, rum, tequila and gin. Oh my.

[opal oar]

Gad damn

[silk river]

Huh, I didn't know I could look it up. I only ever really went to pretty much that bar because other bars would be too dangerous.

[opal oar]

I'm not really a fancy mixed drink person bc I'm cheap too manly for that

[silk river]

I drink to get a good feeling going, and I've found that mixed drinks help facilitate that for less money. Plus I can't stand the taste of some drinks.

[tidal geyser]

question, is Athena's dash boon the best reflect to take? I've found it is.

[brisk trail]

Potentially

[oblique sun]

probably, in terms of being safe i suppose

[tidal geyser]

i can consistently get clears with divine dash but literally every other reflector i struggle

[silk river]

imho, if you can only seem to get clears while having divine dash, you should try to get to the point where you don't need it.

[fringe elbow]

fav shield aspect?

[tidal geyser]

oh i've done plenty of clears without it.
Just they're a bit more of a struggle than with it. which i mean is pretty fair haha

[oblique sun]

what do you mainly use

[brisk trail]

@tidal geyser divine dash is absolutely amazing in elysium though really isn't all that much useful afterwards I've found unless you have the expose on it too, if so, then it's still absolutely amazing

[hollow hawk]

zeus or beo, probably

[hollow hawk]

its useful in dad fight too, to deflect boiling blood orbs or the spin

or any of his attacks, really

deflecting isnt about dmging the enemy as much as it is about protection

[fringe elbow]

ah, i was gonna try zeus aspect but played it safe & stuck with chaos lol

[brisk trail]

Man I just don't enjoy using the shield, I honestly don't know if I'll be able to clear using beowolf

[fringe elbow]

i found beo fun but not as efficient as chaos had been for me

Loading the shield with trippy shot gives a great aoe rush

[brisk trail]

I do like the proc power of Zeus though

[silk river]

God, sword is hot garbage anytime you need to take Forced Overtime

[acoustic quartz]

looks like someone doesnt have max zag aspect sword

wait is forced overtime the faster opponents or timer

[brazen lagoon]

Opponents

[acoustic quartz]

sh wrong one then

still tho max zag aspect sword pog

might be bad for arthur tho

[weak spruce]

arthur and fo bad

[hollow hawk]

only arthur though

every other sword is fine

[silk river]

Well I was trying nemesis with big chop

[hollow hawk]

even arthur is fine with fo1 if you know how to play it

big chop on nemesis is bad lol

you want piercing wave or, preferably, double edge

and you want to be dash striking

[craggy barn]

does arthur prevent you from taking damage from the pots in the hades fight?

[hollow hawk]

wdym

i dont think it affects traps by 40% dmg reduction, if thats what you mean

those pots count as traps

[craggy barn]

if i destroy a pot using arthur special while standing in its aoe, do i take the damage or does the ring protect me

[carmine ravine]

I think any trap/ lava is immune with the circle

Not sure tho

[craggy barn]

i know it protects you from magma

[silk river]

Gods above and below, just finished a talos run with merciful end, doom fists, athena dash, aphro special and duo... sad I didn't get impending doom

[craggy barn]

so i'd figure it protects you from pots too

[acoustic quartz]

just did an arthur run but didnt check that lmao

[carmine ravine]

Oh thats cool

[hollow hawk]

how did you get ME with aphro special tho

did you do replacement shenanigans

[silk river]

I got athena special first, purged it, and then aphro special

[hollow hawk]

lol why even bother purging it

your special doesnt count for any dmg on talos if you have ME

but oh well

[acoustic quartz]

i get it with slow specials

[craggy barn]

impending doom is the key to merciful end, attempting to do 32 heat with demeter fists taught me that the hard way

[acoustic quartz]

but why with talos

[hollow hawk]

nah

its pretty decent without impending

if you have like 3-4 poms on your doom

[craggy barn]

not really

it sucks for bosses

especially hades

[silk river]

Because it's more likely to get the aphro special if I have nothing in there. and getting that ares aphro boon makes it so you can trigger it more often

[oblique sun]

so you're saying things become easier to do when you practice them?? sounds wild-

[silk river]

especially if you get some dashes

[hollow hawk]

curse of longing literally doesnt do anything

if you have ME already

[hollow hawk]

maybe

[acoustic quartz]

yea no real point in having both ME and curse of longing tbh

[hollow hawk]

its not that bad, you can survive without it. but i guess im not the one to speak since i didnt dare attempt ME at 32 heat

or 40 heat, for that matter

[silk river]

Really? I'm gonna check

[gray apex]

Maybe I try 32 no Impending Doom

I was attempting Boonless earlier today and I misclicked and picked Rare crop

Feelsbadman

Wanted to take demeter special

[silk river]

So if curse of longing is worthless with ME, once you got the me, attack curse, and impending doom, what else should you go for instead?

[carmine ravine]

Athena legend

Idk, im not an avid me user

[craggy barn]

divine dash depending on your weapon/aspect and exposed from athena if you have priv. status on

[brisk trail]

I wouldn't even qualify Divine Dash, it's easily the best and most efficient detonater.

If you've got Merciful End and your Dash slot open, or if it's not open and you've got a Keepsake charge to burn before Styx, go for Divine Dash.

[hollow hawk]

after divine dash, you can go for pp and hunters mark from arty

and zeus call for dmg

because fists build call really fast

[weary lantern]

what would be some good boons and gods to aim for when play fist ME?

Demeter has a cood cast imo anyone you really should aim for?

[raw herald]

Ares: dire misfortune, impending doom. Hermes: hyper sprint+rush delivery. Don’t go for Demeter cast unless that’s the focus of the build

[weary lantern]

Okay but what would be two good gods to get into pool other than ares and athena? Or it does not matter?

[craggy barn]

crystal beam really is not good unless the whole build is centered around it

and even then hunting blades alone would outclass it by far

[silk river]

Thinking smart, I might go for zeus and artemis for the pressure points, call, and billowing strength

[craggy barn]

i wouldn't expect that to actually be likely to happen when i'm going for fists ME myself

[silk river]

But ideally

[weary lantern]

well then I have something to aim for

First time I got me now and hoping to get athena dash in second realm now

[tight cave]

Respectfully disagree. Might just be my playstyle but I tend to do far more damage with crystal beam than blades.

[silk river]

Gotta say I love crystal beams, and it's weird, but I actually really like them on the cast bow

Which fists would y'all reccomend for me

[weary lantern]

i dont know how but i once got them where they actually aimed for enemies

then they were really good

[silk river]

Artemis/Demeter duo boon

[high island]

Demeter Aspect.

They're easily the strongest.

[craggy barn]

gilga is also good if you can get a handle on it or so i've heard

[oblique sun]

gilga is the hardest to use, probably worse than zag aspect overall-

[half zephyr]

Gilga is meh

A wrongly timed Maim is just

Zag fist is fun to use

[high island]

Gilgamesh is the only Malphon aspect that's giving me trouble getting sub 10.

[half zephyr]

But not the most effective

[opal oar]

sub 10?

[half zephyr]

Mins

[opal oar]

[looks at 20 minute best clear] jesus

[half zephyr]

I can’t even get below 16 on anything

But goals for the future!

[high island]

It's a lot more risky than the others, and the DPS seems to be noticeably worse, too.

[opal oar]

wait i think my best is like 19 min 50s now 😂 I'm so scared of the speedrun timer

[half zephyr]

You gotta time the maims right I guess

[raw herald]

Gilga has a terrible dash attack

[half zephyr]

But I only survived my gilga run by barely using maim at all

[half zephyr]

You can easily clear TD1 at least

It’s 9 mins pr area & any time you have remaining gets added to the next one

[opal oar]

yeah thats how i found out!

lemme go check my admin thingyo actually

[half zephyr]

9, 7, 5

If I remember correctly

Possibly 9, 7, 5, 3?

[restive cave]

how can i stop the game from pausing when i tab out

[opal oar]

yeah my best is 20:44:20

[silk river]

@opal oar change it to borderless fullscreen

[opal oar]

which i thiiiiink was with TD2?

[half zephyr]

Haven’t done TD2 yet

[opal oar]

I did an 9 heat run bc i wanted the stupid skelly statue

[half zephyr]

I take too long when I have other stuff going on

[opal oar]

(it was supposed to be 8 but i accidentally did cp twice)

[high island]

TD is 9 > 7 > 5, yeah.

[half zephyr]

Took me forever when I did JS2

But I also ended up with a chaos curse that did +67% enemies so

Maybe not that surprising really

JS2 +67% more enemies + BP = chaotic fun

[craggy barn]

pain

i once had to fight off waves of slam dancers with roiling while artemis was trying to shoot me

you wouldn't believe me if i told you i didn't get hit

[opal oar]

after looking at my stats in admin... do i really know how to play this game

[half zephyr]

Does anyone?

[opal oar]

i've cleared with bow & fists twice each , rail & spear 3x, sheild 4x, and then the rest just SORD

[tight cave]

Honestly, Artemis is an easy win for trials and when she's summoned by Theseus. You'd expect more from the literal goddess of the hunt.

[half zephyr]

She’s used to hunting animals tho

Not family

[half zephyr]

SORD?

[opal oar]

Arthur aspect

it's just. big slow hard hit stick

[tight cave]

I haven't gotten a clear with anything other than the bow. Chiron for life.

[half zephyr]

How did you get SORD from Arthur?

[restive cave]

you should try hera then

its so busted imo compared to chirojn

chiron

[opal oar]

Sword but misspelled because you don't need to be smart enough to spell "sword" to use it?

[half zephyr]

No, don’t get it

Arthur is fun tho

[opal oar]

i just find it really easy because it hits like a bus

[half zephyr]

But I plan my Arthur runs

I have goals in mind for my Arthur runs

[opal oar]

yeah, I just go "heehoo artemis boon" and that's the end of it

[high island]

Chiron is second only after Eris for speed.

[half zephyr]

I lvl keepsakes & aim for paladin build

[opal oar]

big stick do damage, and then you make the big stick do MORE damage,

[restive cave]

rama is faster than both of those though

[opal oar]

and run out of the way when hades does the lazers

[half zephyr]

Rama is so slow

[opal oar]

that's it that's my strategy

holy ground whompst? defensive boons where? big stick do damage

[half zephyr]

He doesn’t get to do the lasers when I’m doing Arthur

[opal oar]

noice

idk what "paladin build" means

[half zephyr]

Cursed slash + Athena attack or dash

[opal oar]

ooh

[half zephyr]

With hopefully the sigil upgrade

Last time I did it I went into final fight with 82hp

Walked out with 64

Fun times

That’s 82 max hp

[opal oar]

wow

[half zephyr]

Cursed slash is fun

[opal oar]

i just want like, a bow build that I can actually use

[half zephyr]

I’ve given up on the bow

It doesn’t want to work for me

[tight cave]

Love builds that just slice through the last phase. On my personal best I think he got to summoning the vases when I delivered the final strike.

[half zephyr]

My best final fight he didn’t get to summon anything

[opal oar]

I can't power shot or dash strike with bow reliably so i think im uhh. doomed?

[tight cave]

Poseidon on the attack and Aphro on special is a good bow strat imo.

[half zephyr]

Ye, I can’t do either either

That’s a weird thing to write

[tight cave]

Oh, and Poseidon's dash and Artemis' Aid.

[half zephyr]

But it makes sense in my head

[opal oar]

my only existing rail strategy is "hangover attack go brrrrrr"

(which is extremely fun, tbf)

[opal oar]

I will try that!

[half zephyr]

Well, I go again now

Bai

[opal oar]

bye! im supposed to be doing homework

[warped iron]

this is just false. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irGpTsQfK7I

not even the fastest rama run out there

😔

[oblique sun]

Rama is so slow..... to charge*

[warped iron]

nah the other bows just charge fast

[oblique sun]

thonk

so rama is the average and the others are fast boyes

[warped iron]

yes, that is how it feels to me. let me pull up my run counts with each bow aspect.

[high island]

Like I said, Chiron is second only after Eris for speed. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771815559410876446/822840340289290250/unknown.png

[oblique sun]

but rama would be the one that's slow to charge, given that 3 other weapons charge up at the same speed (and are faster, making them the "average" or the "normal" speed which other speeds are based on, so saying "slow to charge" means "slower than the normal" which is the other 3 aspects, but whatever just a linguistics thing i guess)

i don't thin k that's nyaanyaa's- but i would guess it's one run that amounts to 6:17 minutes, not sure about the splits i suppose but would that matter if the in game timer is 6:17?

[warped iron]

yeah that does line up on speedrun.com as 2nd aspect

hmm

not what i'd expect

but ok

that being said, it's not verified, so

take it with a grain of salt

there is no video

[high island]

That's not my run. https://youtu.be/PwmYoER5254

[oblique sun]

i mean i wouldn't have expected Eris to be the world record if i hadn't checked this server or speedrun.com so yeah

[warped iron]

ok, video posted

more credible

[high island]

Just not verified on speedrun.com yet. Takes a while.

[oblique sun]

how many mods/verifiers are on there

[warped iron]

Not entirely sure but achilles isn't far behind, so room luck could be part of it.

😔

this is unseeded

16s behind for achilles, 19 for hestia, demeter, talos, and zag bow

[high island]

Room RNG is always a factor.

[warped iron]

👌

room rng can certainly make or break 16s

but, the current record is what it is

[high island]

Indeed.

[warped iron]

https://imgur.com/a/pUed25O

...

ok anyway 143 rama uses

thanks bot

[unborn remnant]

yeah Eris is crazy fast

[warped iron]

75% global damage buff goes brr

[high island]

Meanwhile, Gilgamesh.

[raw herald]

25 damage dash attack doesn't go brrr

[high island]

I wish it was 25.

[warped iron]

ew gilgamesh

[high island]

It's 20 lol.

[silk river]

Something weird is happening. for the last 8 or so full runs, I go with ares keepsake, he appears near the beginning, and he literally never shows up the entire run again...

why?

[narrow hemlock]

bad luck

it's known to happen sometimes

[dusky wedge]

Isn’t it when you take a fifth god, the first god got kicked away from your boon pool?

[warped iron]

it just expands the boon pool

[oblique sun]

the main thing with fists is usually dash striking which is like really bad with gilgamesh. I understand that you get extra dashes and easier faster dashing but i feel like it doesn't compensate-

[silk river]

I actually strive to avoid other gods.

But I usually find athena in tartarus and pick her up

[dusky wedge]

Probably just bad RNG then

[silk river]

Then I find her like 50 other times

[raw herald]

Oh I used high confidence by mistake when testing it whoops

[hardy thistle]

I keep hearing about this " boon pool " and im pretty ignorant about the mechanics

I thought you could get any god any time

though perhaps gods you got before are more likely to appear ig

[silk river]

So any god can be offered until you have 4 different gods (not including hermes/chaos)

[half zephyr]

yes, so, I was just speaking about me & my experience with it

Rama is slow cuz all bow is slow for me
bow in general doesn't want to work right for me since I can't dash-strike or power strike or dash power strike

at all

it barely triggers, so bow is my least fave weapon for that & my horrid bow rng

artiesimp has spoken the truth when they said that the run I get the good rng is gonna be an amazing run

[silk river]

After that (unless you use a keepsake) only those 4 gods will appear

[hardy thistle]

I see

[half zephyr]

first 4 gods you get are your god pool (Hermes & Chaos doesn't count), but you can force an encounter via keepsakes

so once you choose a boon from a god that god is in your pool

[bright comet]

can u force via dice rolls?

[hardy thistle]

Does this apply to styx?

[half zephyr]

idk since I never use fated encounter

I only use fated persuasion

[silk river]

You can't force via roll

[bright comet]

is persuasion better?

[half zephyr]

yes

you can reroll your boon options, purge options, well options

[oblique sun]

can't you force via roll before having all 4 (or say before 3) are full

[oblique sun]

pom options

[half zephyr]

in what way?

[silk river]

If I purge the only boon of a specific god, does it remove that god from my pool?

[half zephyr]

yes, forgot that one

[oblique sun]

i forget it too ;p

[half zephyr]

I tend to not have any rerolls left by that point

[oblique sun]

oh i think he means the god pool in styx

[high island]

More accurately, any gods you see are random until you have 4+, not counting Lord Hermes and Master Chaos. After that, it picks from the gods you already have. You can see more than 4 naturally by entering a shop when you have boons from less than 4 gods because boons in the shop and in the exits will both be from random gods.

[half zephyr]

ty greater server member

you explain so much better

I was never made for explaining things

[high island]

No.

[oblique sun]

i frankly didn't even know that was possible but hey, you're always learning

[half zephyr]

I stupidly picked up a boon from dionysus once when I didn't mean to have him in my god pool

and it was just a stupid boon too

not even a main one

and then he kept appearing throughout my run to taunt me about my mistake

[bright comet]

i did the opposite

[oblique sun]

dionysus isn't too bad for a misc god i guess i don't often pick hungover boons just the health ones usually

[bright comet]

i didnt pick him and ended up with a god run

but i regretted it the whole run

[half zephyr]

I didn't want dio cuz of duo options

[oblique sun]

but it's not someone i'd actively seek so i can see that being annoying

[half zephyr]

I was trying to get 4 specific gods for duos TT

[oblique sun]

oh rip

[half zephyr]

and it was just sadness

but I did win

but he was so annoying that run

[high island]

One Hades Monthly Challenge from last December is about getting boons from 9 different gods—or for the extra challenge, boons from all 10 gods. #h1-builds-and-combat message

[half zephyr]

fun

I feel like I've done that

[high island]

Can still do challenges from previous months and submit them if you want to.

[half zephyr]

I'll have to look in my admin history

[oblique sun]

is there a video for that i feel like i'm too bad to be able to do it

like you'd need 3 gods and then go into a midshop or something??

[warped iron]

does bouldy boon count as a god boon type

or do we disregard that for the challenge

[oblique sun]

he's a god in our hearts but i don't think he counts

[half zephyr]

I'm wondering if Hades does

[warped iron]

oh boy

[high island]

Bouldy doesn't count, m afraid.

[half zephyr]

he does technically fill a boon slot

[warped iron]

yeah does hades count

[oblique sun]

and he is a god

hmmm

[half zephyr]

serious questions going on here

is Hades a god & does he fill the boon requirements

[oblique sun]

"is Hades a god" now i'm starting to doubt myself is he a god??

[half zephyr]

he is god of the dead I suppose

[hollow hawk]

yep

theres jawless paul's vid on it

he explains it pretty well

[oblique sun]

i'll look it up then ty

[half zephyr]

guh I need to prep for movie soon

[hollow hawk]

you basically have to get 3 gods before midshop, then get a mystery boon in midshop, and get a miniboss after midshop

[oblique sun]

ah well good luck and then have fun shadow!

[hollow hawk]

and that mystery boon must have a god different than the one on the miniboss door

after that its just keepsakes in aspho elysium and styx

[oblique sun]

so i guess just, get lucky

[hollow hawk]

yep

its a lot of resets

[oblique sun]

at least it's "get lucky in tartarus" so yo udon't waste too much time

[half zephyr]

ty!
I got lucky this time!
my mom told my grandma I was going to the cinema, so my grandma decided she'd cover for my ticket & candy expenses

[oblique sun]

aww

yay candy

that's nice of her ^^

[half zephyr]

I'll ttyl maybe! 😄

bai

[oblique sun]

babai

[high island]

Hades' Aid counts. I'll say it wasn't my intention when I designed the challenge, but according to the rules as written, the challenge requires a boon from a god. Hades' Aid is a boon, and he's a god.

[half zephyr]

[oblique sun]

well at the end of the day it won't matter i don't think

since you need keepsakes in all 3 regions past tartarus

and you need to finish with sigil for it to count

you need to FINISH with 10 right?-

(or 9)

[high island]

Yes.

Hades is also on the family poster for the challenge. Another good reason for him to count.

[oblique sun]

pfft so i guess on styx you can just take sigil so that you don't have to force a passage or something

[high island]

Do keep in mind that Hades agrees to join the celebrations if you can manage to get the whole family to come. So while you can use his keepsake to have him agree to come either way, you'll be excluding somebody else.

[acoustic quartz]

guys any good farming tips?

i've been trying to use darker thirst + chaos boon to farm for darkness and gemstones but chaos boons are kinda iffy

also poseidon boons but they never show up 😔

[high island]

Pretty much just that.

But if you're doing fine collecting bounties, you can just keep doing that and get Darkness etc. on the side.

[dusky wedge]

Just keep playing the game

If it’s very late game, it’s just going to be cosmetics only anyway

[acoustic quartz]

but

i want those cosmetics

yea i guess I'll just farm on the side tbh

[high island]

Using Eris should speed things up.

[acoustic quartz]

why eris?

[brazen lagoon]

Eris go zoom

[silk river]

It's so freaking dumb your keepsake god can choose to go into a erebus gate

[oblique sun]

wouldn't the keepsake stay active if you don't pick them up (by failing erebus)

i see the counter not going down to 0 by entering the room but by picking up the boon

[unborn remnant]

i think thats how it works

[silk river]

RNG plays such a huge role in whether you can get a half decent run on fists, aka flamewheel bait

[oblique sun]

i just keep dashing away with fists hoping they bump into each other

[humble lotus]

So question does giving nectar to bouldy after you allready maxed out sisyphus's bond have a point to it?

[oblique sun]

he gives you a boon

it's not something that will make or break a run it's just like "yay funny" it's really minor

[humble lotus]

Oh i just saw that

[brisk trail]

so to get the ||lucifer|| aspect for the Rail you have to spend blood on it right ? does upgrading Zagreus aspect count ?

[oblique sun]

do you have guan yu?

[brisk trail]

i do

[oblique sun]

also this is #h1-discussion spoilers are allowed ;p

[brisk trail]

oh aight :p

[oblique sun]

yeah then you just need 5 titan blood invested into rail (zag is okay yeah) and then talking to zeus until he says the waking phrase

[brisk trail]

alrighty, thank you 🙂

[oblique sun]

nice hajime pfp

[brisk trail]

...

since u crossed it out i assume it was a joke, but i can also see people thinking its him

[oblique sun]

yeah ofc it was a joke lmao

sorry

[brisk trail]

xD np

honestly if u didnt knew where that pic came from you could be thinking its hajime

[oblique sun]

if i didn't know where it's from i wouldn't know who hajime was-

[brisk trail]

no i mean which part of the anime

[oblique sun]

well let's not talk about it too much i guess, spoilers for others ;p

[brisk trail]

true

[unborn remnant]

I like the bouldy boon

[high island]

It's the most powerful aspect in the game at lower heats, so your runs are just simply faster.

[toxic perch]

i just realised

this is supergiant games server

not hades server

fml

[oblique sun]

lol

[half zephyr]

You only just got that..

[rapid agate]

i'm proud of myself

i beat tartarus without getting heat

[oblique sun]

without getting heat?

[hardy salmon]

has there been any info about new content for hades?

[oblique sun]

i believe none. I think this is like their biggest game is so far and is already packed with content, i'm personally pretty content with how much there is, so much story, so many intricate lines that make you really live with it, it's not too repetitive it really makes it feel like an experience like you're living with them, and a lot of replay-ability thanks to aspects and mirror and heat

plus adding content would be difficult as it could break the story, there's so much information to keep track of so adding it while still being true to it would be quite complex-

[brisk trail]

Ataino, have you ever read the negative reviews on steam? I did yesterday. I read about 100 of them and 9/10 of them had one common; they all complained about the grinding in this game taking the place of the content

[oblique sun]

i mean that's what a roguelite ensures

[desert meadow]

If you're grinding and not having fun, rougelites aren't your style

[oblique sun]

if you walked into a roguelite and ended like that..? i'm not sure who's to blame?

[brisk trail]

Grinding by itself isn't bad. It's awful however when it comes with lack of enemies, and rewarding.

I don't think the game is a 0/10 don't get me wrong I just think it can improve so much

[oblique sun]

i feel like the game wasn't too grindy for me

[desert meadow]

^

[silk river]

I came to this game for a mechanical and gameplay challenge, and I'm still enjoying it 300+ hours in

[desert meadow]

I enjoyed maxing every keepsake honestly, I'm sure of a lot of people wouldn't

[toxic perch]

i dont see a point to max any keepsake ur not using

[oblique sun]

well, there is no perfect game

but this game is extremely high as far as perfection goes

[desert meadow]

Steam achievements say otherwise

Besides, it looks cool

[brisk trail]

Yeah but there is lack of content don't try to hide it 😛

[oblique sun]

making almost anything viable for realistically 80% of the game is really great

there isn't a lack of content??

that's just how roguelites work-

[gray apex]

^

[oblique sun]

they're supposed to be played again and again

that's literally the definition of a roguelite i think don't take my word for it

[toxic perch]

yeah a good roguelite could keep a person up for many hours with no break

i literally forgot to drink water yesterday playing for 13 hours...

[desert meadow]

There's a lot of content too though, just look at all the cosmetics. That's not even a part of the main gameplay loop but it's still there anyway

[oblique sun]

not even the cosmetics

just the gameplay

the absolute number of aspects and boons and combinations you can make with heat and mirror is so huge

the only thing you could "add" to it is challenges/forced "combinations" that aren't self-imposed- like the monthly hades challenge

that's also why i kinda thought about a daily challenge kinda thing to keep me entertained since i struggle at imposing challenges on myself ;p

[brisk trail]

But that would differ almost at all from a smartphone game

[silk river]

Eh... I'd kinda like an unlimited room mode

[brisk trail]

What's next? Watch next ad for 1 more revive?

[silk river]

what?

[opal oar]

what?

[quartz garden]

[toxic perch]

wtf is unlimited room mode

[oblique sun]

endless mode

[silk river]

This game has 0 predatory monetization.

[toxic perch]

oh

[silk river]

Yeah

[toxic perch]

i didnt play the other 2 game of supergiant games though

i bought hades only for dating sim

VA yaoi

its good

probably one of the best in a half decade

[opal oar]

I bought hades bc i saw a tiktok that had dionysus in it and I wanted to see more of him

and also it was on sale

[brisk trail]

I like how offering Achilles nectar all the time, makes him call you gently gay lol

[toxic perch]

i find historians calling achillies and patroclus friends funny

[manic bobcat]

https://melodicambient.neocities.org/posts/2020-12-20-Treatmills, or, Hades, Roguelites, and Gacha Games.html

Reminder that this article exists

Imagine saying roguelites = gacha

[toxic perch]

LMAO

DID SOMEONE REALLY SAY THAT?

[manic bobcat]

you can read it lol

[brisk trail]

I don't find arguing about the sexuality of tale figures really productive..

[toxic perch]

wtf

[brisk trail]

say it in dm

hahaha

[toxic perch]

i didn't thought one could get that levels of stupidity

[opal oar]

wait what did they say i tabbed out 👀

[toxic perch]

no i did not

[opal oar]

Well I mean it is a slur

[silk river]

Yes, because producing a system which gradually rewards you, and let's you gain a sense of satisfaction from mastery of the systems. Yes that's mobile games for sure lol.

[brisk trail]

Gradually rewards you? There are 5 runs I only got 5 gemstones lol

on each

[manic bobcat]

why is your game so good it makes me feel like playing it?
it must use the gacha mechanics from mobile games.
I don't have a gambling problem, obviously

[brisk trail]

While I need 800 to buy the next upgrade

[silk river]

And how much money would it cost to buy those 800 gemstones?