h1-discussion

[hasty owl]

love your pfp btw

[brazen lagoon]

still died sometimes tho

[wild solar]

Oh thank you

[grand crystal]

aaaAaaAaAA

[wild solar]

I didn't make it

[hasty owl]

yeah once i got my first clear it was pretty much clear central

[wild solar]

I commissioned it from a friend

[hasty owl]

got a 54 streak at one point

then i turned god mode off

[grand crystal]

i got a 30 streak then lost it since heat :/

[brazen lagoon]

got a 57 streak then died when hades was like 3 hits away

[wild solar]

[hasty owl]

then i got a 6 death streak

[wild solar]

I'm just generally poor at the game I think

[hasty owl]

then now i’m just climbing heat and getting going

i don’t know dude i think you’d be surprised by how good you are

[final trellis]

it took me like 30 runs to get out of tartarus

lol

[hasty owl]

same

let me go check my record now

[wild solar]

dammit now I wanna play

[hasty owl]

same

[brazen lagoon]

first clear was 39th run im pretty sure

[hasty owl]

i remember my first time beating meg and getting to asphodel

[wild solar]

ok so like

[hasty owl]

i immediately walked into lava and died

[wild solar]

the first time i went to asphodel

i somehow cleared the entire area

[hasty owl]

and i was just laughing for a minute straight

[wild solar]

beat lernie my first time

[final trellis]

my first time beating Hades was amazing

[hasty owl]

i did that in elysium

died a few times in asphodel

[wild solar]

i didn't even realize he was the boss

i was like okay um

[hasty owl]

lol

[wild solar]

and then went ???

and then died to him the next like 7 times

[brazen lagoon]

i remember the first time i got to elysium

that was fun

[grand crystal]

ooo i remember my first clear in early access

[wild solar]

It's my proudest gamer moment ngl

[final trellis]

also when does zag call bone Hydra lernie I'm 75 runs in and still no lernie nick name

[grand crystal]

it felt soo good

[hasty owl]

ah my first escape

[grand crystal]

run 17 i beat hydra when hydra was the "final boss"

[hasty owl]

#38

chaos shield

elapsed time: 63 minutes ashjsjs

[wild solar]

WAIT WHAT

[grand crystal]

it was with an ares spear build if i remember correctly :3

[brazen lagoon]

first clear was with fists

[wild solar]

You escaped on ur 38th attempt

im

sob

[grand crystal]

h-how??

thats

an hour

[hasty owl]

i was being SO damn careful to not get hit

[wild solar]

[hasty owl]

my first 32 heat run was the same

[brazen lagoon]

you'd be surprised how long it takes some people to clear

some guy had like 90 minutes or something

[hasty owl]

you have NO IDEA how bad i wanted that first clear. iF IT TOOK ME AN HOUR YOU BET I WOULD TAKE AN HOUR

[final trellis]

32 heat run omg I tried 51 heat and didn't even make it to meg

[grand crystal]

i think my first 1.0 clear on my personal file was run 17

but then again ive been playing the game for a couple years and im still not good :/

[hasty owl]

got to asphodel the first time on 23

then elysium on 31

ah i remember the first time asterius killed me

i love him

what a sweetheart

then got to styx 34

killed by hades, 36

then cleared on 38 :)

[final trellis]

atxy 34 wow

[hasty owl]

man it’s kinda trippy to see my progress like that

[final trellis]

"styx

[hasty owl]

damn

[brazen lagoon]

i've played this game for so long and only got my first sub-10 like a couple runs ago

[final trellis]

@brazen lagoon I like your name lmao

[brazen lagoon]

i do too

[final trellis]

Artemis for some nice ass thighs so I don't blame you

got

[grand crystal]

dio has some nice thighs to ngl

[hasty owl]

lol my 32 heat

68:40

[wild solar]

im so embarrassed

[hasty owl]

was so close to 69 minutes smh

i should have taken longer

[grand crystal]

shouldve waited 20 seconds to kill dad

[hasty owl]

agreed

don’t be embarrassed back

i had god mode on for ages

[brazen lagoon]

i cannot tolerate runs taking a long time

[hasty owl]

and nobodies judging anyone

we’re all here bc we love tbe game and the ppl who play it

[brazen lagoon]

these days if i clear tartarus in more than 3 minutes 30 i just start again

[hasty owl]

including you

jesus

what’s your pb?

[brazen lagoon]

9:14

[hasty owl]

hot damn

how did that happen

[brazen lagoon]

probably could've gotten sub 9 if i wasnt messing around in tartarus

[grand crystal]

my pb is like 11:0.06(ik no one asked but i just want to be part of the conversation ;w;)

[brazen lagoon]

eris + good hammers

[hasty owl]

i want you to be part of the conversation

that’s really good

my pb is 16

i think i could probably do better tho cuz that was quite a while ago now

also you guys zag was the featured house servant a few runs ago

it was so beautiful :,)

[brazen lagoon]

[grand crystal]

;w; yall are great

[hasty owl]

no u

i’m gonna do a fists run

you guys choose the aspect

bc i love all of them

[brazen lagoon]

demeter

the only acceptable choice

[hasty owl]

...keep shading talos zag and gilgy and i might do all three of them in a row to spite you

[grand crystal]

lol

tbh dem is the best fist

its just better

[hasty owl]

objectively u are probably right

but talos is the most fun

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

just vibe checks from 20 feet away

[hasty owl]

if you can get talos with draining cutter

that run is absolutely set

[runic sparrow]

Once I've maxed out all the relationships, and sorted out all the side stories, then I'll consider Hades 'cleared'

[brazen lagoon]

do that if you want

[hasty owl]

lol

[brazen lagoon]

i really dont mind

[hasty owl]

nah i gotta practise w dem anyway

i keep getting the timing off

[grand crystal]

my fist 32 was a fun dem run :3

i got ME

it was wild

[hasty owl]

oh awesome

[grand crystal]

although the doom was weak

only 160 with ME trigger

[hasty owl]

divine flourish and curse of pain i’d guess?

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

i also got exploding upper so that was cool :3

[hasty owl]

maybe i should try an me run

[runic sparrow]

oph damn it's 10 PM already

[hasty owl]

3am gang

[runic sparrow]

and that's epilogue complete(I think)

[hasty owl]

ayy!! good job!

[runic sparrow]

||Had the feast||

[hasty owl]

u officially beat hades!!

[runic sparrow]

nah, I wouldn't say that

still have stuff left to unlock, side-stories to do

[hasty owl]

well you got the true ending

seems like it to me

[brazen lagoon]

still a ton of stuff to do after true ending

[hasty owl]

yeah agreed

[grand crystal]

7:05pm gang

[hasty owl]

but now u can boast to your friends abojt jt

[final trellis]

dude I saw the true ending I'm sad I'm not even done

[brazen lagoon]

11am

[runic sparrow]

once I unlock all the companions, forge all the relationships, do all the things

[hasty owl]

8 hours behind me

i’m gonna go sherlock real quick

[brazen lagoon]

you british cam

?

[hasty owl]

8 hours behind london indicates that u are in the western US

yeh

[runic sparrow]

g'night everyone, you're all beautiful

[hasty owl]

night :)

[final trellis]

is there anything to do after you beat the game

[runic sparrow]

~♪

[hasty owl]

yes

[brazen lagoon]

plum is prolly in cali

[hasty owl]

very much

[runic sparrow]

@main magnet All the sidequests, heat runs

loads of stuff to do

[hasty owl]

and romance everhone

[grand crystal]

las vegas 😎

[hasty owl]

and just have fun playing

[runic sparrow]

you got that list of minor prophecies you can clear off

buy out the house contractor

[hasty owl]

and if you do some stuff at certain times you get really fun dialogue

eg: taking the yarn of ariadne into the theseus fight

/dying in a thanatos room

[grand crystal]

lol i have 2 friends in a server im in from london

[grand crystal]

that hits different ;w;

[hasty owl]

/using a gods greater call in their trial

[grand crystal]

he just says "lets go home" and i get happy sad

[hasty owl]

/unlocking skelly’s amazing prizes

[final trellis]

I wish hades was multiplayer but I don't know if that would work

[hasty owl]

play as zag and than and meg’s magic gay babies

it’s ancient greece they’ll figure something out

i think if hades was to have a sequel tho it would be really cool to have to fight your way down mount olympus and collect blessings from all the cthonic gods

[grand crystal]

that would be pretty epic

but also pretty limiting :/

since its all death related

[hasty owl]

hm true

i’m sure something could be figured out

hm for dem fists do u guys think rolling knuckle or long knuckle is better

long: +10% damage and range
rolling: +60% dash strike damage & part off attack sequence

[final trellis]

@hasty owl what's your favorite keepsake/companion

[hasty owl]

battie, pom blossom

you?

[grand crystal]

pom blossom is epic :3

[hasty owl]

agreed

[grand crystal]

and i generally switch between battie and mort

[hasty owl]

ok i’m gonna take rolling knuckle

[final trellis]

I like the acorn but I'm not far enough for companions yet

[grand crystal]

i find rolling better

[brazen lagoon]

pom blossom goated

[grand crystal]

yall every just like steal design philosophies from hades for a roguelite you wanna make in the future :3

i have a whole ass game idea ive been trying to flesh out for 3 years(only have plot really :/) and the 3rd game im wanting a roguelite and hades is great to look at

[hasty owl]

yes absolutely

[grand crystal]

nice :3

[hasty owl]

i’m taking so much damage this is a nightmare lmfao

oh alecto. how i despise you

[grand crystal]

yea she sucks :/

least favorite fury to fight

[hasty owl]

bro i lost two death defies

i-

[grand crystal]

oof

[hasty owl]

this run is a disaster

[grand crystal]

are you doing high heat??

[hasty owl]

14

so no lol

[grand crystal]

ahh so middle heat :3

[hasty owl]

i’m just really bad at the demeter fists

[grand crystal]

ah

[hasty owl]

i get the timing wrong and keep dashing into projectiles and shiz

practise makes perfect ig lol

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

[hasty owl]

ok i’m gonna suicide and try a chiron run

[grand crystal]

it took me a while to get good at sword and fist :/

ooo chiron is fun

[hasty owl]

yeah i’ve got hammers in chamber one for the last like five runs

it’s crazy

damn this hammer is trash :,)

[grand crystal]

lmao what did you get

[hasty owl]

i ended up taking sniper shot

but i was hoping for concentrated volley/relentless volley

[grand crystal]

ah yea, sniper kinda garbage ngl

[hasty owl]

yeah

[final trellis]

I hate bow

I see why people like it but its not for me

[hasty owl]

fair

BOULDYYYY

[grand crystal]

hehe

bouldy

[hasty owl]

oh yay it’s tis this time

i was so happy when she learnt to say zagreus

[modern arch]

Iv played so much hades recently I just today had a dream about Greek gods

[hasty owl]

lol

who starred?

[modern arch]

Hypnos

[hasty owl]

iconic

[modern arch]

Highlights include Hypnos and Chaos making all the gods

Hypnos dating Ares and Apollo

And thr world resetting causing everyone but chaos to lose their memories and it to turn out how it usually does

(Hypnos regained his mem eventually tho)

Anyway now my brain is cursed with thoughts bout ares x Hypnos

[hasty owl]

EURYDICEEEE

[grand crystal]

oh fun

[hasty owl]

ok ok i took refreshing nectar

i have gods legacy

there’s a good chance i’ll get merciful end

[final trellis]

who is she

[hasty owl]

woo

tis

i did not get merciful end >:(

[brazen lagoon]

f

[hasty owl]

ok ok ares miniboss

[grand crystal]

it is dummy rare for some reason :/

[hasty owl]

there’s a better chance i’ll get merciful end

[brazen lagoon]

i mean it is broken beyond belief

[grand crystal]

true

[hasty owl]

ABAHAHHA YES I GOT IT

ahahahahahahhaha

i am a god

[grand crystal]

i started shredding just with 160 on prock

[grand crystal]

pog

[hasty owl]

merciful end is nice but like i’m doing so little damage

smh

update: merciful end isn’t even working? i’m hitting w diving flourish and no doom is occurring

oh well

[rapid forum]

you apply doom first

then do deflect attack/dash

[hasty owl]

update: i have died

oH wow i’ve been misreading that boon for a long time

iM SO GLAD I DIED

IM THE FEATURED HOUSESERVANT

[grand crystal]

i always thought you had to deflect something to trigger it but yk then i learned:/

[hasty owl]

oh look at zag go

[grand crystal]

but-you died

[hasty owl]

yes

but i killed a whole lot of skeletons

[grand crystal]

true

good job

[hasty owl]

:)

[lost wolf]

Bruh I’m in the middle of the Hades fight of my Boonless run, and the mid-fight dialogue is Hades asking how many relatives helped Zag, and Zag saying “quite a few”

Bruh 😑

[grand crystal]

lmao

although they try to avoid most immersion breaks there still are some

[lost wolf]

Yeah I was impressed with how good the game was at dealing with that

The only other ones I can remember are the basic dialogue from Achilles and one from Sisyphus

But this game makes sure it happens as little as possible and it’s awesome

[grand crystal]

the breaks are funny tho

like havnig rail for like 30 runs and zag is finally like "thanks fr the gun man"

its great

[lost wolf]

He’s just a forgetful boy lol

[karmic trellis]

what happens if you use battie in the meg fight?

[grand crystal]

you cant

[karmic trellis]

just "error"

[grand crystal]

theres dialogue where meg is like "you know it wont help"

[karmic trellis]

does it suck up a use?

[grand crystal]

they point out that you cant and its great

no

[karmic trellis]

o

ok

nice

[grand crystal]

it just has the red "cant use it" flash above zag i think

[karmic trellis]

have a nice day

[grand crystal]

you too

[karmic trellis]

goodnight

[grand crystal]

goodnight

[brittle canyon]

I BEAT HADES FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!!

With a time of 24:47.16

Is that good?

[carmine ravine]

Congrats

[brittle canyon]

Is it a good time?

Or not

[carmine ravine]

I think its fine

[half zephyr]

It’s fine

This channel is still spoiler heavy btw

[brittle canyon]

Epik. Not too bad for a first time

I know

[half zephyr]

If you care about story

Cool

[carmine ravine]

20+ ish is the average time so yeah

[half zephyr]

Also congrats

[brittle canyon]

Thanks

[vapid narwhal]

25 min for a first clear is very good

[brittle canyon]

thanks

[static spindle]

POG

I just started playing so me kinda trash

[brittle canyon]

itd very good, don't you think?

th art style is fantastic

[static spindle]

its phenominal

I love it so much, Im starting to kinda get the hang of combat and stuff

It's a steep learning curve but it is so much fun and I can't wait to finally get out of asphodel after meething the hydra like 1000 times xD

[brittle canyon]

lol

good luck

[static spindle]

yeah, im trying to find the best way to approach it and kinda failing but we getting better right? xD

[brittle canyon]

what weapon are you using

[static spindle]

Currently the spear

Ive gotten pretty good at it

[brittle canyon]

spear is good

[static spindle]

yeah :3 love the way you can call it back and stuff

[brittle canyon]

i just unlocked the hidden aspect for the spear

[static spindle]

oooh nice 🙂

[brittle canyon]

its very epik

[static spindle]

yeah ive heard

[brittle canyon]

i have to go now, bye

[static spindle]

no worries! nice meeting ya

[tight cave]

Nice! Considering my first time was 32 minutes, that's very good.

[simple tulip]

Is em4 hard?

I just bought it from house contractor

[runic parrot]

very

if you want to try training for it, only take em4 and no other pacts

it takes a while to get used to

[simple tulip]

Bruh, but I saw people saying Theseus asterius are harder than hades with and without em

But everytime I face them Theseus is afk while minotaur is very predictable

Whilst hades already remains a challenge

[hexed shore]

em4 is like one of the hardest conditions

[half zephyr]

Depends on people ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I find EM3 easy enough, but I’m not gonna even touch EM4 cuz I’m that scared of it

I’ve seen what it will do & I know I’m not ready for it..

[runic parrot]

ive been trying to do em4 but i keep dying lol

i've done 20 consecutive tries by now

[simple tulip]

I can beat no em hades with no separate hades buffs (pact) whilst not losing a stock most of the time, do you think I can beat em hades?

[runic parrot]

theres really no telling lol

he's quite different even though the base is the same

[half zephyr]

What’s a stock

[simple tulip]

I mean death defiance

[half zephyr]

Aah dd

[whole oxide]

Like smash stocks

[runic parrot]

smash bros stock lol

[half zephyr]

I don’t play smash

[simple tulip]

I’ve heard he has stage 3, does his stage 1 and 2 stay the same?

[half zephyr]

It’s dd & sd here

[runic parrot]

there's like new patterns and old patterns being replaced/reworked

[simple tulip]

Ah

[half zephyr]

Plus his companion

[simple tulip]

Well I would have to learn them

[runic parrot]

yep :)

[simple tulip]

Stage 2 hades seemed way to easy already lmao

Does his laser get reworked? Because it already seems really easy to avoid esp with shield

[half zephyr]

Try him w pacts

Not em4

But other pacts

Like BP & CP

[simple tulip]

I have bp1 most the time

[half zephyr]

2

2 is more fun

[simple tulip]

I’ve heard bp2 is rly hard, no thanks lol

[runic parrot]

it stays mostly the same but you can't do the hug trick anymore

[simple tulip]

Still at heat 17

hug trick?

[runic parrot]

emless hades' lasers radiate a bit out from his hitbox so you can stand real close and "hug" him

[half zephyr]

You don’t wanna do bp2 cuz you’ve heard it’s hard, but you wanna do em4

[runic parrot]

and you wont take any damage

[simple tulip]

i have never used this anyways

i just stood behind wall and used rail special

[runic parrot]

its fun

[half zephyr]

BP2 is great fun

So many things happening at once

[simple tulip]

yes. but bp2 gives 3 heat whilst em4 gives 4 heat so this is main deciding factor

[half zephyr]

It got a bit chaotic that one time I had the chaos curse of +73% enemy spawn, but then again - Chaos do be chaotic

[runic parrot]

em4 is generally not taken if youre doing 32 heat for the first time

it's very hard with hard labor and calisthenics program

[half zephyr]

I meant as a way to try new things w Hades without jumping to em4 first

[simple tulip]

also i swear i gave patrocolus a nectar before but apparently his one is the only one that's missing from me. is my memory just faulty or what

[hexed shore]

idk never tried em4

[simple tulip]

oh yeah why is heat 32 a kind of famous heat difficulty? like i hear people talk about heat 32 what makes it so special from heat 31?

[half zephyr]

I can’t remember if it’s MM or BP that can be bad to combo with em4 if you’re not prepared

[hexed shore]

32 is the minimum for speedruns iirc

[half zephyr]

Entry level for high heat

Also the final Skelly statue

😗

[hexed shore]

if youre under 32 they consider you for speedrunning

[simple tulip]

so is heat 8 and 16 like heat 32?

i barely noticed the diff between heat 7 and 8 though, and heat 15 and 16

[half zephyr]

Idk, haven’t gone that high

[runic parrot]

32 heat is still pretty manageable

[half zephyr]

But I do know that someone said heat 32 is entry level for high heat

[runic parrot]

once you go above that, that's where the real "high heat" begins

[half zephyr]

See

[runic parrot]

but i think most high heat maniacs consider 40 to be the entry high heat

[simple tulip]

so it's just a benchmark heat number

[runic parrot]

i consider above 20 to be high heat :) its hard

[half zephyr]

Keyword being maniacs

To me if it’s above 8 it’s high heat cuz I’m baby

And I can’t get past 2 on bow

[simple tulip]

i can relate

i can't get past 2 on bow but i got 17 on gun

[half zephyr]

It’s different if I go by individual weapons, but bow is bringing the curve down

[simple tulip]

idk how my skill level drops drastically when i'm not on rail gun

[half zephyr]

Exagryph is

Hold button & dash

And if you get seeking

[simple tulip]

seeking?

[half zephyr]

Then you don’t really have to think

[simple tulip]

oh hammer upgrade

[half zephyr]

You can get seeking bullets 😗

[simple tulip]

well i'm on controller anyways

[hollow hawk]

seeking fire is meh on rail

[half zephyr]

I’m on switch

[hollow hawk]

especially if youre running on auto aim

[simple tulip]

it should auto aim for you too no?

[half zephyr]

I like it for some things

[half zephyr]

I like it when I’m standing behind stuff

[hollow hawk]

the best eris hammers will always be cluster rockets, and best hestia hammers are ricochet and probably hazard bomb or cluster bomb

[half zephyr]

For no think runs

Getting seeking & no reload + support fire

Just hold button

[hasty owl]

morning everyone

[hollow hawk]

its evening tho??

[simple tulip]

and special yourself if you are on eris. or press reload when you are on hestia

[half zephyr]

Yeye

[simple tulip]

for you it is

[hasty owl]

not for me

[hollow hawk]

no for everyone its evening

whats a timezone? idk

[half zephyr]

I keep forgetting to bomb myself when I’m on Eris

[hasty owl]

though it’s not evening for me either

[half zephyr]

It’s 13:11 for me

[hasty owl]

i’m 12pm

i just woke up

bc i went to bed at 3am lol

[simple tulip]

it becomes instinct after a while esp with the 5 bomb special hammer upgrade

[hollow hawk]

yeah, cluster bombs

[half zephyr]

Nope

[hollow hawk]

i just special myself all the time, even when im playing hestia

[sleek galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604967283877609482/817731007008473168/unknown.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leHkDJRKGY8&t=100s

now I want a drawing of Patroclus breakdancing

[hollow hawk]

its muscle memory for me at this point lol

[half zephyr]

I’ve run Eris ever since I got it & I still forget to bomb myself cuz I forget to special in general

[hasty owl]

lmfao

[simple tulip]

bruh

so you use hestia instead?

[hollow hawk]

that music is legit patty breakdance suiting lol

[half zephyr]

I just dash with status & shoot with status & let privileged take care of it

[simple tulip]

or do you also forget to reload 😂

[hollow hawk]

lmaoo

[half zephyr]

I’ve never done Hestia

[sleek galleon]

even better at 2:20

[hollow hawk]

replied to the wrong message

i see

[sleek galleon]

shh

[hollow hawk]

lol

lol

[sleek galleon]

lmao

[half zephyr]

But I’m pretty sure if I did this would be a thing yes

I just hit until I can’t, dash & hit until I can’t

[hollow hawk]

my visualizer is straight up dancing on my desktop rn

lol

[half zephyr]

There’s some times I remember to special, but not often enough

[hollow hawk]

breakdancing, if you will

[half zephyr]

[simple tulip]

i feel like as my eris got higher leveled i found the motivation to special myself more in order to activate it, whereas when it was level 1 i had the same issue as you

so maybe it's the same for you?

[half zephyr]

I started using Eris at max level XD

[simple tulip]

lmaooo

[half zephyr]

I don’t use an aspect until I can max level it

[bright flame]

is there a way to disable the artwork on ultra widescreen and get black bars? I kinda find it distracting

[half zephyr]

I just forget in the heat of the moment

[hollow hawk]

@bright flame probably best to ask that in #h1-tech-support i guess

[spice socket]

I'm on the Steam version, playing an Xbox Elite Series 2 controller, and I can't get any response out of it.

[runic parrot]

try #h1-tech-fixes

or if none of those tips work try #h1-tech-support

[spice socket]

@runic parrot Yeah. I had to disconnect my PS5 controller that was also connected, and now the controller works perfectly.

[rapid forum]

Lol

[hasty owl]

if it’s still not working try downloading a controller emulator, turning it on, and not filling any keys

[rapid forum]

Alternatively you can check controller settings on your steam's big picture

[opal oar]

what am i supposed to be doing abt these contracts i dont get it

[half zephyr]

The ones for side story characters?

[opal oar]

yeah!

[half zephyr]

How far are you on them?

Just the prophesies or?

[opal oar]

I'm at the point where everyones been like "i'm CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED to KEEP DOING THIS THING, which sucks, oHh If oNlY soMEonE of HIGH AUTHORITY IN THE UNDERWORLD could HELP ME BREAK MY CONTRACT-"

i got orpheus back and am playing messager between achilies and patty

[half zephyr]

Have you spoken to nyx?

[opal oar]

yeah!

im at 6 clears

[half zephyr]

Gotta get prophecy, buy the thing from shop, talk to nyx & go to the archive

[opal oar]

and she's just talking abt mom

....what thing

[brittle canyon]

thanks

[half zephyr]

Stuff like that

[half zephyr]

The contracts..?

[opal oar]

oh

i think? i did???

i bought the one that releases orpheus from eternal captivity or whatever

I don't think I see any other ones, what section are they in??

[half zephyr]

Then it’s up to the one thing it always comes down to in this game

rng

[half zephyr]

First page 😗

[opal oar]

.... I May Be Stupid,

[half zephyr]

Means you haven’t unlocked them just yet if you haven’t seen them

[half zephyr]

[opal oar]

wait did hades set up zag and meg in the past?? I just got that loading screen dialogue about mortals "Becoming men" faster than gods

[half zephyr]

Ooh I got a new best clear time~

20:47:28

And on spear too huh

[manic moat]

nice

[manic moat]

yea that's kinda weird

[half zephyr]

”Middle-Management Cutter”

[half zephyr]

Is it though?
Gotta remember he’s from an earlier time

[opal oar]

Royalty do kinda be like that

but oh my god, why MEG

[half zephyr]

The other options are Alecto & Tisiphone

[unborn ermine]

Tisiphone could maybe be nice

Alecto just hates your guts

[terse relic]

Which Casts are absorbed, and which aren’t? Just thinking about an Exit Wounds build.

[unborn ermine]

It'll say in the codex

[terse relic]

Cool. Thanks!

[unborn ermine]

From the top of my head, they're Poseidon, Zeus, Aphro, Artemis, and Athena

[manic moat]

yea I think that's right

curse of drowning (ares/poseidon) and blizzard shot (demeter/poseidon) are duo changing casts that make the cast not stick too

[terse relic]

Aphro sticks? Interesting. If I have to get up in their face anyway to hit with the Special...

I’m doing a run now with Posideon’s Cast. Only the three basic Bloodstones, though. Chaos wasn’t helpful.

[grand crystal]

aphro sticking is kinda iffy ngl

like depending on how many you hit, the angle, and if theres any obstruction can mess with the cast a lot

[unborn remnant]

hello there

[terse relic]

Hiya!

[charred anchor]

just beat than 30-3

mf was like "ur welcome"

[half zephyr]

He be like that

[hollow hawk]

i so much wish the game had special dialogue if you beat than without him getting any kills

i know theres a victory screen message, but a dialogue would be so satisfying

maybe even a dialogue if you beat him like 15 times in a row or something

[hasty owl]

gUys

my first proper speedrun attempt

and i got five sacked

smh my head

if it was a two or three sack i probably would have gotten a sub 16 which is nice

[night leaf]

heh, that's RNG

can't be helped

[hasty owl]

tis true tis true

[night leaf]

I got a special dialogue in a run

[terse relic]

Just got it, actually. Finally shut Than out.

[night leaf]

Theseus remarks something when you have the yarn of ariadne in your inventory

[quaint pagoda]

I just beat my first 8 heat run!

[night leaf]

the same yarn he used to find his way back when he went to kill the minotaur on the island

[terse relic]

I was fighting EM4, and Dad summoned two Giant Voidstone minibosses while I hit with Demeter’s Aid, and holy flicker, Batman.

[night leaf]

heh

did you win?

[terse relic]

Yeah. Achilles spear + Posideon attack + Rupture + Flurry Jab. No problem.

Trying for Sea Storm, but it never came.

[spice socket]

Yeah it was literally that the PS5 controller being connected was causing the problem LOL

[hasty owl]

was the emulator the issue or the controller?

either way im glad u could fix it :)

[spice socket]

Likely the controller.

Now that I've played a little bit of the game though, I have to say I'm really enjoying it, and I'm inclined to buy the Switch version as well.

[half zephyr]

It’s so fun on switch

Just being able to take it everywhere is great

[spice socket]

Rogue Likes seem to work well on the Switch to be honest

[terse relic]

I beat Than 19-0, and he said “Let’s keep this off the record.” Than, you petty jerk.

[grand crystal]

he's embarrassed, the god of death lost to the zag

[terse relic]

I gives a damn. I want my accolades.

[hybrid snow]

You can never get the satyr sack in the first passage, right?

[terse relic]

Never.

[hybrid snow]

Figured thanks for helping me make sure

[grand crystal]

yea 2 sack is the earliest you can get

im kinda mad >:(, i keep getting heart events with meg but not than

ive had 3

in the span of like 30 runs

but no than ;w;

[shadow lichen]

Isn't it interesting that people can love roguelike games

I really hate the genre but hades is the one who made me love it

and dead cells

[grand crystal]

o-o i do

i unironically think its one of the best genres

[shadow lichen]

really?

[grand crystal]

yea

i really feel like im progressing and getting better compared to other games

[shadow lichen]

I mean I dont like starting something all over again because its boring but hades is really making this funny

[grand crystal]

and it teaches me to suck it up and work through it :3

[shadow lichen]

I love hades

[shadow lichen]

never looked this way before but gonna try

btw are there any general schat

oh there is

[grand crystal]

yk after a while ive come to the conclusion that the helm of darkness looks stupid

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/5/59/Hades_Helm_Cape.png/revision/latest?cb=20200715175301

like

its so dumb

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/3/3c/EM_Asterius.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20200707232703

this is also dumb

like

it just looks weird

front facing asterius

[hexed marsh]

Dear #supergiant-games, will there ever be updates on Hades game? Like new stories or side-stories or characters in any way possible? It just kinda ended too early for me, story-wise, minus the grinding. Like, just the story in general? And I asked this not because I want a rollout on a (new) story ASAP but, just wanna know if there are gonna be stuff to be anticipated on soon.

[surreal condor]

Whats dumb about that helmet? It's just a helmet with red spikes aligned like hades's beard

With some skulls

[grand crystal]

just the 2 spikes look funny

like

its just extra height

[surreal condor]

I mean, he does have a long beard

[heady stream]

I seem to have encountered a weird bug during my play through, and I was wondering where the best place to discuss that was?

[craggy barn]

[ashen frigate]

Its because Hades is really an RPG with partial Roguelite gameplay

[grand crystal]

i just like roguelites

gungeon, wizard of legend, nuclear throne, dead cells, all very fun

[ashen frigate]

they have said probably not, that they are taking a break and then figuring out what they want to do next. If you have just gotten to the credits section you have not even remotely finished the story (unless you also finished all the prophecies)

[grand crystal]

they all make me feel cool and i feel the progression and skill coming together :3

[hexed marsh]

Oh i guess we'll just have to wait. yea finished the prophecies and got to the epilogue. currently farming for other side stuff.

[ashen frigate]

i would not expect more Hades content, honestly. They dont tend to go back to stuff once done. I mean, maybe a sequel/prequel at some point. You could always start again or clear your mirror

or try without god mode

[grand crystal]

also i would like to mention that if they try to add anything it could very easily break the world

or just be out of place

it would take a revamp of the whole story to add some things in

[hexed marsh]

yea that is the grinding part. I was asking for more stories or some plot twist.

[ashen frigate]

have you played the other supergiant games?

[hexed marsh]

stories was quite short atleast for me, no offence.

[grand crystal]

i mean ive been playing since early EA and im only now getting bored

and ive done like 3 current patch files

[hexed marsh]

yea but i always come back to Hades. more grinding and farming 😃

[ashen frigate]

well there you go

enjoy the repeatability

[half zephyr]

I’m amazed by the story we got

[quaint pagoda]

I was one hit away from getting poseidon's greater call in his own trial so I could get the bad call achievement.. but that last hit killed the last enemy..

[ashen frigate]

d'oh

[quaint pagoda]

I shot the bloodstone at him but there was basically nothing that would not have killed him

[grand crystal]

i think getting hit also charges god gauge

[quaint pagoda]

really...?

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

since boiling point is a boon that exists

it would need some base to scale off of

[quaint pagoda]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

):

I'm so dumb

It was a one in a hundred chance...

[ashen frigate]

I'm genuinely surpised there's no "Blood And Darkness" merch. it would make for great shirts and stuff

[grand crystal]

i mean they have transistor and bastion shirts i might get

but yea id love to see more hades merch

[quaint pagoda]

What are the chances of getting a trial with a god you have the call of..

[grand crystal]

not that low i dont think

since the pool is like 4 gods + whatever youve forced

[quaint pagoda]

Oh wait right it's only 4

hmm

I wonder if trying to do a few runs just for that would be worth it, but I should probably just wait until I get all the other achievements.

I got a ton of nectar now, like 24.

I wonder how it all gets there... I say Dionysus smuggles it.

[twilit bridge]

I'm not sure if this should be a spoiler channel ask, but when do you get skelly's contest?

[grand crystal]

contest??

like his prophecy??

[terse relic]

I just learned this, and thought I’d share it for those who don’t yet know: if you take damage from a Chaos curse in an Erebus room, you don’t fail the room.

[grand crystal]

oh

[half zephyr]

Well, you didn’t get hit

[grand crystal]

thats cool

[half zephyr]

The Erebus thing is “don’t get hit”

Though if the chaos curse damage had counted you could’ve had a fun “Why are you hitting yourself?” moment

[terse relic]

Win text is “Stop hitting yourself!”

[half zephyr]

[hearty bramble]

thanatos deserves a house contractor portrait 📢📢📢

[grand crystal]

nyx has one

[hearty bramble]

yeah everyone has one but thanatos and hypnos!! they both deserve 🥺

[grand crystal]

whats the owo category for speedrunning

[manic moat]

isn't that all weapon aspects

[grand crystal]

idk they all are like 1h long so im too lazy to watch it

[ancient vigil]

https://twitter.com/twineedle/status/1368285526252384258?s=21 has this happened to anyone before.

sib-ease 💫✨ (@twineedle)

zag broke #hadesgame #NintendoSwitch https://t.co/oOZuLQmJFs

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 6, 2021, 7:41 PM

[grand crystal]

lmao

no but thats hella funny

[ancient vigil]

I wonder if he would’ve stayed like that if I didn’t take damage

[grand crystal]

it reminds me of the hornet 2 hollow knight glitch

[unborn remnant]

yeah

with shield

i tried to accept a boon and got stuck in the bash animation

[ancient vigil]

[unborn remnant]

And this was in styx

with timer on

[charred anchor]

got 60% dodge chance on my run just now 😎

25% from plume keepsake, 20% from greater evasion, 15% from zag fists

[grand crystal]

nice

my best is like 64 i thnk

but the highest ive gotten plume is like 30ish

[sterile sundial]

damn, just got friendzoned for eternity by snake-haired person

[narrow hemlock]

love is love

[opal oar]

I wish switch had acheivements

they sound so fun!

[tranquil prairie]

Hey so does anyone know how to trigger the Charon fight a 2nd time I beat him during my fight with him but now the sack won't spawn in any of his shops

[grand crystal]

its just once per run, 22% chance in mid shops

and if it spawns and you dont take it then oh well, it wont show up again

[tranquil prairie]

Oh I didn't know it was just a 22% chance it's been something like 3 runs since then and I've been stopping into each of the mid floor shops I could guess I've just been unlucky

[ancient vigil]

Has anyone date Dusa am curious

[surreal condor]

I'm trying

But idk if its actually gonna work or not

[unborn remnant]

[surreal condor]

I did the lounge mission, and filled all of her hearts and got the fidi companion. But she just stopped talking about it, and now whenever I go up to her she says 1 sentences and the conversation stops

I was told I just had to wait for something to happen

But nothing yet

[half zephyr]

rng

[surreal condor]

Why must the rng gods be so cruel to me in every game I play ;-;

Curse the fates

[grand crystal]

i mean the entire genre is just rng :/

[surreal condor]

Yeah

So

Curse the fates

[quaint pagoda]

Just beat the EM third boss

it was fun

Thessus was easier

[grand crystal]

ok so like for the fight, be careful @ionic trail

its kinda difficult

[ionic trail]

so ive heard

kinda had a youtube video spoil it for me

im using the rail

or gun or whatever

[grand crystal]

ok, so def try to just keep your distance

[ionic trail]

got some deflect on me

[grand crystal]

at 2/3 he summons random enemies from a list, and at 1/3 he does the same

for his sweep just dash twice to the side/behind him and you should be good there

be wary of his casts since that procks boiling blood on you

[ionic trail]

oh shi

[grand crystal]

and if his casts stay out for 5 seconds, they explode in a shockwave

so try to break them

he also will go invisible from time to time, when that happens just pay attention to the floor and try to react

[ionic trail]

bruh this is a lot

[grand crystal]

he has a stab attack that will be fast and kinda hard to dodge but if you pay attention and keep your distance uou should be good

[ionic trail]

i barley won over thesus lol

[grand crystal]

and i havent even started phase 2 yet

[ionic trail]

DED

i know imma die rn

i just know

but imma try

thanks anyways

[grand crystal]

well with that attitude yea >:(

[grand crystal]

ok well good luck!

[ionic trail]

ok ok imma beat this bih

[grand crystal]

there we go

[forest cedar]

Don’t wheat yourself up too much

[ionic trail]

god dang

got him to a third

[forest cedar]

...... come back on that?

[ionic trail]

then i died

[forest cedar]

Random.... outfit?

[ionic trail]

hm?

[forest cedar]

I was talking to Dio

Was that your first dad fight?

[ionic trail]

yes

[forest cedar]

Good for you

First ass whipping of many

Just remember: if you can make it to him, you always have it within you to beat him

Just work on getting there consistently now 👍🏻

[ionic trail]

thanks man

[grand crystal]

i hope i helped a bit ;w;

[ionic trail]

you did

[grand crystal]

:3

[ionic trail]

but my keyboard skills arent super

my keyboard space bar took a beating lol

[grand crystal]

oh damn

well youll for sure get better due time!

[forest cedar]

Ahhhhh

Do you particularly enjoy kbm with this game? Both styles see lots of play

Controller caveman over here. I like how it helps keep me alive with more fluid movement inputs

[ionic trail]

idk man

mouse accuracy

[forest cedar]

If you like it, play on

[ionic trail]

i kinda hate joysticks

love buttons

just hate joysticks

[forest cedar]

This is one of the few games I’ve seen where it really is split right down the middle

[ionic trail]

cause even though its hard

casual players like it too

[tepid plover]

Oops I just realized I put a message here by mistake

Wrong server sorry

[night pumice]

Question for players who made it into the late game: What should I be focusing on now that I've just cleared the game with each weapon? Clearing with 8 heat? Or something else?

[quaint pagoda]

I have so many things I need to get from Nyx and it's only one conversation for each run..

[grand crystal]

have you done the 10 clears to beat the main game??

@night pumice

[night pumice]

No I have 7 clears I think

[quaint pagoda]

So do 3 more

[night pumice]

I didn't realize 10 clears would "beat" the game

[grand crystal]

ok try to finish that first

yeaa 10 clears finishes the main story

[quaint pagoda]

It would get you to the credits

Then there's the epilouge

[night pumice]

How much harder is 8 heat than 0-2 heat?

[grand crystal]

ummm

coming from somene who plays on kinda high heat

[quaint pagoda]

depends on what you choose

[grand crystal]

its not much at all

[grand crystal]

^^this tbh

[quaint pagoda]

I just beat it on 8 heat first time today

[night pumice]

yeah assuming I make thoughtful choices and customize my mirror for the run, etc

20% harder? 100% harder? 500% harder?

just ballpark me here...

[grand crystal]

like 20% :/

[night pumice]

Is the epilogue a new style of game? Or story stuff? Please no spoilers if you can

[grand crystal]

ijust stroy

[night pumice]

Just give me a vague idea

[quaint pagoda]

story stuff

[grand crystal]

story

[night pumice]

gotcha

[quaint pagoda]

Skelly comes down from the sky and says he is the one true god kind of story.

[night pumice]

lmao

Okay thank you for your help

🙏

[quaint pagoda]

nah it's true, you'll see.. YOU WILL ALL SEE AND BELIEVE!

[grand crystal]

np :3

[night pumice]

I'm going to stream my runs tonight so I wanted a little bit of idea of what I'm getting into. Appreciate it

[quaint pagoda]

I just did a rail run and it was so awesome, I did so much damage.

[grand crystal]

and if you have any questions for heat once you get to that feel free to ask in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[quaint pagoda]

Plum did you get all the achievements?

[grand crystal]

ive done 32 heat on all 6 weapons so i like to think i know what im talking about but there are much more expereinced people to ask

[grand crystal]

im on switch :/

[quaint pagoda]

ohh

[grand crystal]

and i played on epic in EA

[quaint pagoda]

I have 30 out of 49

[grand crystal]

i would like to think id have every achievement tho >:3

[quaint pagoda]

When does Thanathos's heart unlock.. I already gave him all the nectar and defeated him a few times but even then sometimes he just talks to hypnos and I can't talk to him..

[grand crystal]

time and rng

and it needs to happen mostly in run

the convos

he'll show up in the house a couple times for important dialogue but not much

but yea its time and rng

[quaint pagoda]

Lately he stopped speaking to me in the runs, I only had one conversation with him in a run lately and it kinda progressed the story but then nada

[grand crystal]

ahhh, you might be at a point where you need him in house

[quaint pagoda]

He asked ||what he is for zagreus ||.

[grand crystal]

oh yea youll need a couple more i think if im right

1 in run

but idk what exactly ;w;

[quaint pagoda]

I'm gonna beat his ass next time he challenges me, I'm getting that companion and that relationship.

[grand crystal]

lmao

[quaint pagoda]

And THAT STICKER

[grand crystal]

i love than

he's such a good boy

i regret romancing meg too

[quaint pagoda]

I got Orpheus, Hades and Charon's stickers now..

Well you can romance both of them right?

[grand crystal]

yeaa

i just am getting more stuff with meg than i do with than >:(

[quaint pagoda]

Dusa's dialogue is the most awkward..

[grand crystal]

and its making me mad

[grand crystal]

i find it wholesome

especially after you finish her romance

[quaint pagoda]

Nyx just talked to me about Meg, and I'm still waiting for Dusa to give me those damn ambrosia... I NEED TO PAY THE BILLS!

[grand crystal]

😔

imagine taking the ambro back from dusa

couldnt be me

[tepid plover]

Focus on what you have fun, theres not much to do late game

Enjoying the game is key

[quaint pagoda]

And nectar... god I am buying so much nectar lately..

[tepid plover]

Wish I could trade you

Steam market supergiant pls

[night pumice]

Yes I am still enjoying

🙂

[quaint pagoda]

I just checked, it seems I don't need to buy any more nectar.. and I am now in PAIN.

Now I just need to rob Dusa's ambrosia

[tepid plover]

I let dusa keep it

It was a gift after all

She deserves it

[grand crystal]

yeaaaa

you get it

[sterile sundial]

yea i let dusa keep it even she friendzoned me

we got meg after all

[grand crystal]

i honestly like that she friendzones you

[brisk trail]

meg and than

[grand crystal]

she realizes how she really feels and tells zag, its good

[tepid plover]

And scythe daddy

[brisk trail]

thanos (marvel) name is derived or inspired by thanatos the god of death

i wanna see thanatos face on thanos (MCU) body

[grand crystal]

NO

STOP

NO

[brisk trail]

i think it would be funny

[tepid plover]

Did you make that assumption?

[grand crystal]

DONT YOU DARE TAKE ANOTHER STEP

[brisk trail]

no

?

i read it somewhere

[tepid plover]

Where

I'd like to know if this is legit

Cause it sounds cool

[brisk trail]

ill see if i can find a link

[quaint pagoda]

Well in the comics Thanos is horny for death

[sterile sundial]

naah, his slow ass scythe never kill anyone

[tepid plover]

Most villains are horny for death

But Thanos had bigger plans in mind

[brisk trail]

or u could search it up cause i dont wnana

[tepid plover]

Than just death

[quaint pagoda]

You know I mean literally right? he was horny for the personification of death.

[brisk trail]

ok search "thanos thanatos origin"

and its the first result

anyways

back to my idea

i also wanna see thanos face on thanatos body

[grand crystal]

;w;

[brisk trail]

please it would be funny i think

[grand crystal]

please

[brisk trail]

please what

beg

[grand crystal]

i dont want this thought in my head

[grand crystal]

i- no

[brisk trail]

i live in my head u just have to deal with it momentarily

mmmm purple thanatos

itd be funny plumfox i prommy

why would zag do that

[tepid plover]

Because

[brisk trail]

o deleted

[tepid plover]

The same reasons i deleted it

[brisk trail]

@grand crystal sorry

did i come on too strong

[grand crystal]

wut no i just had stuff to do

youre fine

i mean, the image of just thanos with thans face i just

eeughgh

[quaint pagoda]

Just unlocked than!!

[tepid plover]

Noice

Gah-dong!

[quaint pagoda]

I also lost a death defiance in his challenge because of the magma

so rip

and I just bought a new one so all is great in asphodel..

[tepid plover]

Imagine having your boyfriend come to help and losing a DD

[quaint pagoda]

He isn't helping.. he is challenging

[tepid plover]

Well no, he literally tells you to step back and watch

You make the challenge yourself

[brisk trail]

to get a centaurs heart yeah

[tepid plover]

He just follows your little game

[brisk trail]

kk

👍

[grand crystal]

lol sometimes when im in a rough spot i just let than handle it

[quaint pagoda]

lost the dd again to the hydra, CAN'T HE HELP ME THERE?

just KO the hydra

[tepid plover]

Yeah losing a dd isn't worth a centaur heart

[quaint pagoda]

It is worth unlocking him

[brisk trail]

yeah but the challenge is to beat him to get the heart

[tepid plover]

Well you will unlock him regardless lol

Didn't need to die

[quaint pagoda]

Shush'

He wont talk unless you beat him

[tepid plover]

Wait fr?

[quaint pagoda]

What other way does he have to judge his friend than put him to battle

[grand crystal]

no?? he should talk regardless of win/loss

[tepid plover]

Oh ok

I was making sure

Lol

Thats what I thought too

[quaint pagoda]

I remembered the first times you do need to beat him, guess it's not necessary in the later game

[tepid plover]

I lost to him like twice only, and wasnt really paying attention so don't really know

Both times with exagryph, god it took me a while to get used with rail