#h1-discussion

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bold basalt
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noooo i got sooooo far just to die to a rat

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a small rat that happend to be a boss

half zephyr
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Never underestimate King Vermin

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It might be the last thing you do hehe

desert meadow
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^

rotund galleon
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honest question is King Vermin that hard

desert meadow
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It can be

hushed pumice
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It's annoying more than anything

dusky wedge
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This game has so many voice lines, there’s still more to see even super late game. I just unlock some juicy details about ||Charon||. And here I was thinking to lay this game down to play my backlog games shadegrief

rotund galleon
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enough h32 tries for today

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I never expected assist Tis would cause a problem

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but she kinda does

flint hinge
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ik it might take a while to brain storm/code but it would be SO cool to have hades dlc

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ngl

quaint pagoda
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I'm looking at the codex and in the others of note there is one undiscovered, looking at the wiki it doesn't show anyone who I don't have there.. he's the most bottom one.

half zephyr
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Which page?

quaint pagoda
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Others of note

half zephyr
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Hmm

quaint pagoda
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The most bottom one

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Under skelly

half zephyr
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Uhhhh

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I will look

quaint pagoda
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thank you

half zephyr
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I needed an excuse to enter the game anyways - I keep going into Pokémon home to continue my living dex when I open my switch even when I tell myself not to PeNsIvE

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Aaah

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Post epilogue

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I can spoil if you want tho

half zephyr
quaint pagoda
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Does it start with a P?

half zephyr
quaint pagoda
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So yes I know who it is, and I'm pretty sure I know what to do to get them in the codex.

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Thank you.

half zephyr
grand crystal
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hehe me over here who rebound L to reload so i lack a codex button 😎

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i never look at it anyway

half zephyr
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Sad

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Much sad

quaint pagoda
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I just catched up on basically all of the codex today

half zephyr
quaint pagoda
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Currently checking again to read the updates

half zephyr
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I should charge my phone krpensivecooky

quaint pagoda
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Alright now I should really take a break from the game for today.

half zephyr
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It’s at 14%

half zephyr
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I’m on one right now

quaint pagoda
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Beat the game for the first 4 times today, this game is fun.

half zephyr
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Woo

quaint pagoda
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I play during the unimportant zoom classrooms too

grand crystal
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lol thats a mood

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i just finished playing chess with a friend during class

half zephyr
grand crystal
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pretty epic

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and a very stressful game too

quaint pagoda
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I'm bad at chess, but I couldn't count the times I won on two hands, know why? because I never won.

half zephyr
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I have won at chess, but that doesn’t mean I’m good at it

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Cuz I’m not really one for strategy

quaint pagoda
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Same.

half zephyr
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Unless I really need it

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But not chess

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Chess just no

grand crystal
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lol imagine being strategic

half zephyr
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But kudos to you who can do it

quaint pagoda
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How many hours do you have on the game so far?

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I got 26 now

grand crystal
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i just put things out and am like "i wonder if itll work"

half zephyr
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115+

grand crystal
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o-o

quaint pagoda
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noice

grand crystal
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probably 200 ngl

quaint pagoda
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nice

half zephyr
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Well, I’m gonna do my run now

quaint pagoda
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I only bought the game 4 days ago.. don't do the calculations

half zephyr
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Ttyl

final trellis
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every time I look at the victory boasting I'm just surprised how many times they've cleared a run

grand crystal
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ive cleared like 100

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as of last night

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out of like 115 runs

ancient current
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man same

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50 runs and only 1 clear for me

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i just can’t beat hades man

final trellis
final trellis
grand crystal
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not on my current save tho

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mayeb around 100

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not too sure

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ive played on several accounts and EA so i dont have an accurate count of hours :/

half zephyr
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1st tunnel

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King Vermin

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Was a fun run - Daddy didn’t know what hit him

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Plume runs are the best sometimes

grand crystal
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nice

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i keep getting king vermin and its bothering me

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like

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out of all the bosses, i get the longest one

half zephyr
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XD

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I did it within plume time

grand crystal
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uuugghhhh just got out of class -w-

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and i cant play hades till like 3am

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pretty epic

warped iron
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So I found something rather odd in one of my folders on my computer just now

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and I don't understand.

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Why did I make this...?

gray apex
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Looks sus

warped iron
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probably wrong channel, whoops

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whatever

stiff trellis
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when you 🅱️reaking out of the underworld

trail plover
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hey quick question

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if you find a pom in the dungeon does that reset the mom pom counter?

unborn remnant
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what dungeon

grand crystal
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no, mom pom is its own thing

trail plover
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thanks plum!

unborn remnant
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just the underworld?

grand crystal
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np 😎

trail plover
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@unborn remnant yeah like the rooms lol

unborn remnant
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oh

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yeah those poms are their own seperate thing

trail plover
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sweet

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idk why I like having crazy high level boons like lv 8

unborn remnant
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not a bad idea

grand crystal
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lol me over here whos seen people get like lvl 20

unborn remnant
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but generally level 6 is where things peak

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splash dash build

trail plover
stiff trellis
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Highest I've seen is 46, but I've heard that some people have got it to 50 before

trail plover
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I haven't been able to get level 10 lol

unborn remnant
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All poms with persephone keepsake probs

grand crystal
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mom pom luck probably and lots of fated authority

stiff trellis
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There are some builds that can scale really well with poms

unborn remnant
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And the duo with poseidon

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and demeter

trail plover
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I bet it probably works if you just don't take a bunch of boons like I do. XD

grand crystal
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yea poseidon/aphro sweet nectar :3

unborn remnant
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thats probably the strat

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early duo with that keepsake

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go all in on splash dash

glossy umbra
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you can get some pretty high level boons if you get sweet nectar, mom pom, and only use a couple boons so they hit the same one more often

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highest I've had is 21 but it's definitely possible to get way higher

carmine ravine
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i dont see the point of going high level boons since its all diminished returns

unborn remnant
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Its funny

grand crystal
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^^yea thats about it

ancient current
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Yea i don’t level up boons all that often
if it’s a choice between a pom and another item i’ll take the other item most of the time

warped iron
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So, yesn't.

opal oar
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why can i not give mom nectar.... please......

digital python
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using Hades aid while fighting Hades is just unfailingly hilarious to me like Zagrues yells 'father' and he's like I can hear you just fine don't yell

flint hinge
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So you know how people were talking about adding apollo to hades?

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I was thinking they shouldn’t cause fire powers would either just be hangover or stop & shop killing freeze.

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imo

grand crystal
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yea thats how i feel about it too from a gameplay perspective

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and in story it would mess with too much

trail pulsar
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bruh when i go a not cast build i get mirage no reroll lmao

grand crystal
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hehe

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g r a p e

simple tulip
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what are unseeded/seeded runs?

wise sparrow
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seeded means you know what rewards the rooms will give

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unseeded means you have no clue

simple tulip
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how do you make a run seeded then?

simple tulip
brisk trail
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You can manipulate the game's RNG.

wise sparrow
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just play through the run and before you die select give up

simple tulip
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ah

wise sparrow
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or you can use a mod to see the seed

simple tulip
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so is that why rhere is a clip of the person suiciding? before the run

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to show it is unseeded

brisk trail
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Yup.

wise sparrow
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yes to prove unseeded

wild solar
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Spread Rama bow is wowe

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like legitimately, wow

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This is so cool! wow

abstract forge
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why cant i murder hades

hollow kettle
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I wonder if the concept of Death exists because Thanatos exists or if it's the other way around, like he was born in order to embody the concept of Death

grand crystal
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i like how dnd puts it actually

runic parrot
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i like to think they're the same

grand crystal
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its there because its a facet of life thats worshiped

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without the followers or the believers, then why does it exist

runic parrot
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iirc in the myths sisyphus tied down thanatos so no one could die

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so the personification is inherently tied to the concept

grand crystal
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^^yea it was kinda funny imo

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like, just a while of no one dying

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i like to see it as the personification is tied to the concept, which is tied to the people

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but thats just me :3

charred anchor
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hmm im using hera bow with aphro cast, should i go with flurry shot, chain shot or triple shot

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how does triple shot even work with hera

desert meadow
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The cast hits on your main shot (the middle)

grand crystal
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^^

desert meadow
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The extra two are just your attack

grand crystal
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id say chain :3

charred anchor
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yeah i was leaning towards that one anyway

grand crystal
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im not a fan of flurry and triple kinda poopy unless thats the setup youre going for

desert meadow
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Yeah chain is probably best

wild solar
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I have a q
If you get a Hermes boon offered by Charon, is that one of your two?

charred anchor
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i dont think so

desert meadow
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Flurry would be better on Zag bow tbh

charred anchor
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i like flurry shot but not with hera

wild solar
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Cause I wanna go see Eurydice and Orpheus BlushAf

desert meadow
wild solar
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Ah I see

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Going to go visit the duo

grand crystal
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i think the max you can get is 3 thanthink

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since i generally get the 2 and theres a 3rd in styx shop

desert meadow
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Yeah

charred anchor
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oh man i got 10 sec left for the fury fight

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im screwed

wild solar
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I did a performance of Good Riddance for some friends, and someone else who knows the song well said I was very accurate BlushAf

charred anchor
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oo awesome

grand crystal
charred anchor
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just the normal one

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i dont usually use bow

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so i guess im slower with it

brisk trail
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Everyone starts somewhere.

hollow kettle
grand crystal
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yea bow takes some getting used to but it is a very good weapon

wild solar
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I love Rama Bow with spread shot

runic parrot
grand crystal
wild solar
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and explosive arrows

runic parrot
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with death came thanatos and with thanatos came death

charred anchor
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dusa is rly carrying me rn lmao

runic parrot
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that swhat i think anyway

grand crystal
wild solar
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it was so fun to do

hollow kettle
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though that would mean that in the time before Than was born death didn't exist

wild solar
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oh is it called Triple Shot?

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The attack charged up so slow but damn it was fun

brisk trail
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Gotta remember, everyone is much older than they look.

runic parrot
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well mortals did come a whole lot later than thanatos and any other nyx's children

hollow kettle
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although he is a primordial god so there actually probably wasn't that long of a time where he didn't exist

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yeah

wild solar
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And the time that he didn't, only immortals existed

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So they didn't die regardless

runic parrot
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twin shot is better on rama tbh

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much more reliable

charred anchor
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okay i defeated tisiphone but used up all my dds 😭

grand crystal
brisk trail
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Triple/Point-Blank is more optimal but significantly harder.

grand crystal
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zag likes older men :3

wild solar
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oh I did wonder something

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When Orpheus and Eurydice are together, why is it after they finish the song, they have an instrumental version?

grand crystal
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why not

wild solar
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And also
Why does Rama bow charge up super fast sometimes?

runic parrot
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because there's no band to do the music

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lol

brisk trail
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Dash-Striking?

runic parrot
grand crystal
wild solar
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Oh

grand crystal
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hence why bow users only dash strike 😎

wild solar
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They do?

runic parrot
wild solar
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You don't hide in a corner and murder everything that comes close?

runic parrot
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too slow

grand crystal
hollow kettle
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Zag is probably older than he looks too, he's considered young by the other gods but that's in comparison to them who have been around for quite a while

runic parrot
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going zoom zoom zoomies is the only way to go

wild solar
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Imagine needing to do td 😪

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I have no reason to go zoom zoom rn

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I will later

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But not for a while yet

runic parrot
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im trying to get sub 9 runs right now

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so going fast is all that's on my mind

grand crystal
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once i got my sub 12 i was happy :3

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it was like 11:00.64 or smth dumb

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so close to sub 11

wild solar
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timing runs is the worst

runic parrot
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so close

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i got pretty lucky with my sub 10 run

grand crystal
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and i was like eh screw it i satisfied with 11 minutes

runic parrot
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2 mid fountains, all npc's encountered

grand crystal
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(im also on hell mode and didnt do fo2 or em2 strats)

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so im sure i could go faster

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im just lazy

wild solar
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The only way I'm going to do TD is for the achievement

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That's it

runic parrot
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im not even doing it for the td

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i just wanna get a time pb

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td makes it longer since you dont get survival rooms as often

wild solar
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I'd rather farm everything rather than do more stuff

charred anchor
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im used to breezing thru td because i usually use fists

brisk trail
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If you want a time PB, don't take Tight Deadline.

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It disables Surival rooms entirely.

wild solar
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pb?

brazen lagoon
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Personal best

brisk trail
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That's a free 20 seconds off a run.

wild solar
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don't give a crap about personal best

runic parrot
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the only pacts i take are the two forced overtimes

grand crystal
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yea each survival room is like 45 seconds

wild solar
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how fast i've done something never mattered to me

grand crystal
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and than rooms can last a while

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so those are free rooms essentially if youre going for game timer

runic parrot
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yeah

grand crystal
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for real time tho i think td is better to take

wild solar
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y'all have fun

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not my cup o' tea

runic parrot
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definitely buti dont really care about rta time

grand crystal
runic parrot
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all of my runs are 1 hour rta no matter how fast my igt is

wild solar
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not rly

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i don't care enough

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to care about time

grand crystal
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yea, speedrunning isnt for everyone :/

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i just like it, i think its fun to go fast

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and plus for me after a certain point i naturally go fast

brisk trail
grand crystal
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so speedrunning is only a slight step up

wild solar
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what does the a in rta stand for
rt stands for real time

runic parrot
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real time attack

wild solar
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?

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now you've confused me

runic parrot
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huh idk

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i just picked it up somewhere

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maybe ive confused the acronyms

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ive just got used to calling it RTA

wild solar
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i see

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no worries, friend

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i'm just feeling

runic parrot
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im pretty sure its from speedruns

wild solar
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in this chamber

runic parrot
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RTA is real time, IGT is in game time

wild solar
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right i knew igt

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thanks

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oh i meant that genuinely

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that may have sounded sarcastic/mean

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wanted to clarify

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ah,

brisk trail
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[social anxiety intensifies]

wild solar
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^ me rn trying to make sure my intentions are clear

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sorry about that, i just get self-conscious

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i meant to say 'thanks for the explanation!' but my brain went too fast then switched modes and i went stressed

runic parrot
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don't fret abt it

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i understand

wild solar
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phew okay

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thanks for the patience with me

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man i wish there was a vc here so i could sing good riddance for you all

narrow hemlock
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unfortunately server too big, vc impossible to moderate lol

wild solar
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It's not a worry tatz

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I completely understand

grand crystal
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"server too big" lol only like the same 10-20 people are consistently active

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but yea it makes complete sense, would be a lot of effort

wild solar
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Well like also

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Any solution would require effort

brazen lagoon
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theres a lot of people in this server that simply just do not talk like at all

narrow hemlock
grand crystal
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i mean yea ig :3

narrow hemlock
grand crystal
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its always nice to come here and see familiar tags

wild solar
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One solution another server I used to be in used is a levelling system and only people with/above a certain level could use the vc

narrow hemlock
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theres prob a lot of people that just like.. lurk combat/high heat and stuff too

wild solar
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how many people's runs got extended by 30min+ being in Eurydice's chamber

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give an estimate

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(repeat runs included)

modern arch
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Yeah, it’s nice to review boons when on timer by hanging out in the special character room

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I know, I’m probs gonna do 0 heat for guan Yu, and 1 heat for that obnoxious trap punishment

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Just for the achivements

hearty bramble
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i just found out Greg voices hypnos

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im like WHAT?

brisk trail
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I used to think Aphrodite had the most scathing dialogue. It's actually Hypnos. He kept all the best writing for himself. apolSmug

modern arch
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Haha

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Hypnos can and will roast you, whether he means to or not

rapid forum
hearty bramble
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yeah exactly!! I was shocked hahah

simple tulip
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what is the best bow aspect?

hearty bramble
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my fave is chiron :)

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depends on your preference!

pallid basalt
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Me : This run is shaping up to be crap; nothing suiting my playstyle. Best to give up on this one and try again.
Game : LOL, Did you want the exact same run you just quit out of? Okay, here you go! Everything exactly the same.

runic parrot
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that's how seeding works

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if you give up, the run after is exactly the same

brazen lagoon
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Yeah if you want a different run you have to either finish it or die

manic moat
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fun fact so if you have a god keepsake on and you change to another god keepsake while giving up and keeping the same seed, the boons will be same, so if there was like an epic cast with artemis keepsake, you can give up, change to dio keepsake, and the epic cast will still be there

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also if the first boon is a hammer and you know which hammers there are going to be, it helps so you can build around that hammer, which with a weapon like rail is really useful

lost wolf
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Bruh I hate when hades true combos you for half your entire health bar

rough hazel
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imagine that a 'the world' boon

manic moat
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lmao how about you see a dionysus boon

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but he just comes up and says "but it was me, Dio!"

carmine ravine
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boo

runic parrot
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you cant use that in an unseeded speedrun though

uncut ore
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doom is overpowered

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I got a common boon that does doom damage on melee in tartarus

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and its still very very potent in elysium

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I have basically no other melee boons

uncut ore
rapid forum
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you should get Merciful End

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it's wayyyyy more OP squirtnya

craggy barn
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doom is only good with merciful end

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change my mind

runic parrot
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youre right

rapid forum
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Doom is good

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But it CAN be better

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Much Better

runic parrot
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what if ME activated maim

rapid forum
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That'd be a bit too much imo

gaunt geyser
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This likely gets queried a lot but do you guys think we are getting any more major content updates or are sgg moving on now.

quaint pagoda
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How do I get better fish? I got like 4 different fish so far and I fished so many.

hollow hawk
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do you know how to get perfect catches?

quaint pagoda
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Better time

hollow hawk
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hm?

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perfect catch is when you catch it just after it bites

acoustic quartz
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listen to audio queues

quaint pagoda
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That's what I meant

hollow hawk
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if you dont know how to consistently get perfect catches, this might help you:

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  1. put your thumb over the bob, and look for a flash (it only appears when its an actual bite, flash doesnt appear on fake bites)
  1. focus on the sound
  1. Know that if you have gotten 3 fake bites, the 4th one will always be a real bite.
  1. try to focus somewhere else on the screen, and try to catch the fish using your peripheral vision
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personally, 1 and 3 work best for me

quaint pagoda
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I only got legendary once

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thank you

hollow hawk
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yeah it gets better with practice

hollow hawk
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with impending doom and like a level 4 doom attack, youre already doing much more dps than maim would ever do

unkempt sleet
simple tulip
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guys can my friend's laptop run hades?

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2015 13 inch

acoustic quartz
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try using a benchmarking website or smth

chrome zephyr
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i just unlocked heat

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if i set it to 20 heat

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do i get 20 titan bloods ?

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or only 1

acoustic quartz
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its 1 per heat for every weapon i think

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pretty sure the heat level doesnt affect it

rapid forum
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you can't skip heat bounties

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but don't let that stop you

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JUMP THE HEAT MA DUDE

half zephyr
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And it’ll count as heat 1 I believe

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Reward wise

runic parrot
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u'd be correct

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the bounties go up incrementally from 1, 2, 3, until 20

simple tulip
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best 12 heat settings?

runic parrot
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you have to clear each individually before you get the next +1 heat bounty

sacred stag
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Do I still take damage when ||I am invisible from Hades call||

runic parrot
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i think so

vapid narwhal
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you are invisible not invincible

carmine ravine
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you cant be targeted so i guess

craggy barn
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you actually are invulnerable while invisible

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it's basically athena's aid but better(?)

runic parrot
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are you?

craggy barn
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yeah

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you can take a laser to the face and go unscathed

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besides if you're not invulnerable while invisible then how come i can't beat up daddy dearest after he goes "Darkness!"

hollow hawk
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Also important thing, if you attack while invincible using Dad call at 50% (not the greater call), you become vulnerable

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So its worse than athena call, since with athena call you can attack too

hollow hawk
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I haven't counted how much heat that is, but just saying that those pacts are probably the easiest

brazen lagoon
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That's 10

hollow hawk
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ah, just take something like underworld customs or hard labor 1 + lasting consequences 1 to fill in the 2 heat

brazen lagoon
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Or you could do FO

unborn remnant
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ive been experimenting with it more, and zeus shield went from weird as hell to one of the most creative aspects in the game imo

runic parrot
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yeah suggest fo to the new player to heat dusa

unborn remnant
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having a lingering hitbox sets up for tons of stuff

runic parrot
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though i guess its not too bad without hl

runic parrot
unborn remnant
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Oh I'm a fan

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🤝

hollow hawk
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Call it aspect of baj

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Not aspect of zeus

runic parrot
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idk what that is

hollow hawk
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We're asking amir to rename it soon

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Baj is pretty much objectively the best zeus shield player

runic parrot
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my bad

hollow hawk
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He has the wr on highest heat and fastest time with zeus shield

runic parrot
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i don't actively watch videos on games i already play

hollow hawk
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he attempted 61 heat with it recently, got to hades 2nd phase but then timer because of 4 sack killed him

unborn remnant
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thats an alpha move

hollow hawk
unborn remnant
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theres tons of cool stuff zeus shield sets up for

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you can push people into it, kite enemies into it, make it follow you

hollow hawk
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Lyte, if you dont already know, you can go Ruthless Reflex on Zeus shield

unborn remnant
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And that's who's special again?

hollow hawk
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because the dash attack on zeus shield is a dash

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Ruthless reflex is opposite to greater reflex

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In the mirror

unborn remnant
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oh right

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yeah I guess that makes sense

hollow hawk
#

If you dash attack after dashing quickly, you can get it to slide and function as a second dash

unborn remnant
#

i kinda wanna try running an impending doom build on the zeus shield

hollow hawk
#

Merciful end*

#

Yes

#

It is very good

#

Ares special with athena attack

unborn remnant
#

I've only ever used zeus special with it

hollow hawk
#

Try to get dire misfortune and impending doom

unborn remnant
#

yeah for sure

#

Family Favorite?

hollow hawk
#

You can also do arty special and aphro dash and attack, go for heartrend

#

Eh doesnt matter much

unborn remnant
#

aight

hollow hawk
#

Also obviously with ares special and athena attack, you want merciful end

#

So go god's legacy

unborn remnant
#

yeah absolutely

humble lintel
#

probably dumb but what is the cast of choice for beowulf?

#

and is there anything else I should look for in a build?

trail plover
#

Using shield rush attack as an extra dash. Why didn’t I think of that? 😂

unborn remnant
#

same tbh

#

i like have multiple dashes for running away from zeus shield

#

you can turn it into a massive moving hitbox

manic moat
craggy barn
#

flood flare is also great for consistency

signal aspen
hollow hawk
#

mirage shot is a duo boon you want with beo on all casts really

#

same with arty legendary, but that is less necessary and harder to get

digital python
#

the mini boses int he styx will NEVR not give me intense anxiety cuz i just KNOW i can break a run facing a miniboss

charred anchor
digital python
#

oh my god did i just die TWICE to a single room in the styx

charred anchor
#

rest in peace

digital python
#

it wasn't even a miniboss r u kidding me

charred anchor
#

what do yall think is the best cast for aspect of poseidon

digital python
#

artemis no question

signal aspen
#

yeah

digital python
#

if u can get both her cast + exit wounds it becomes truly broken

signal aspen
#

also she can get you exit wounds

digital python
#

hhhh going into hades w/ only one death defiance cuz i goofed in styx... feels bad but wish me luck lmao this is terrible

#

it was going so good before lmao

desert meadow
#

Good luck! Maybe you'll turn this around

digital python
#

nvm i died 😔

#

i dont even know how i goofed so hard in styx like i made it thru the miniboss fight fine but a normal large room in styx and i died TWICE in rapid sucession

#

it was going so good too 😔

hasty owl
#

:(

#

well now u have gained knowledge and experience

#

and when u return to styx you will crush those goddamn satyrs like a tonne of bricks

dusky scaffold
#

i made it to hades phase 2 again last night

hasty owl
#

that’s awesome

#

trying for your first clear?

dusky scaffold
#

yep

#

emphasis on trying

hasty owl
#

want advice, general positivity, or just chatter

dusky scaffold
#

buti can pretty consistently beat hydra and furies without needing a defiance

hasty owl
#

that’s awesome dude

dusky scaffold
#

and am getting closer to beating the third boss without needing it

#

once i get there i recone i can put down hades

hasty owl
#

i didn’t beat meg until like my 25th attempt lol

dusky scaffold
#

meg took me a while but bone hydra i beat second try

hasty owl
#

that’s really good

#

once i cleared meg i could get her pretty consistently

#

but once i cleared lernie it was like exponential improvement

dusky scaffold
#

so how do you unlock thos locked things at the bottom of the keepsake thing i got 5 non zag aspects is there somthing else i need?

hasty owl
#

i think it’s that you have to have 5 blood in non zag aspects for every weapon

#

and then you need to talk to achilles

signal aspen
#

you have to give nectar and ambrosia to certain people

hasty owl
#

and then a bunch of other people

signal aspen
#

for the things at the bottom of the keepsake thing

dusky scaffold
hasty owl
#

oh tbe keepsake thing sorry misread that

#

zag aspect stuff is to unlock secret weapons

#

keepsake stuff is about forming bonds w npcs

dusky scaffold
#

oh like the aspect of arthuer?

hasty owl
#

yeah

dusky scaffold
#

cool

wide bison
#

So I just finished hades for the first time and what are the tips for heat for your first time?

hasty owl
#

what was your igt?

wide bison
#

25min

hasty owl
#

tight deadline 1

#

you won’t even notice it

wide bison
#

Ok

hasty owl
#

good job btw :)

wide bison
#

Ty : )

signal aspen
#

also tight deadline

hasty owl
#

most stuff at the top is pretty chill

#

i would try to avoid callisthenics program

signal aspen
#

damn why does everybody hate that

#

i got used to it

hasty owl
#

bc it gives everyone +15%hp

wide bison
#

And what aspects would be good early on?

hasty owl
#

have you unlocked all aspects?

signal aspen
#

all aspects are good

#

but no zag aspects

wide bison
#

Now that I have easier access to Titan

hasty owl
#

idk i quite like zag fists

#

oh buying aspects?

#

eris rail

#

100%

signal aspen
#

if you really want to use zag aspects i would recommend bow, rail, and shield

wide bison
#

Ok

hasty owl
#

it’s incredibly powerful and fast, lets you get more blood

#

i finished maxing all the blood stuff today and i WISH i got eris sooner

signal aspen
#

chiron is really good

desert meadow
#

^

#

All the bow aspects are

hasty owl
#

if you can get chiron w concentrated volley and relentless volley your run will be SET

desert meadow
#

Eris rail, Chaos shield (once upgraded a few times), Poseidon sword, & Demeter fists are also good

hasty owl
#

yeah chaos shield carried me when i was a beginner

#

and 32 heat lol

#

so i guess not quite a beginner anymore

hollow kettle
#

does calisthenics program give bosses more hp too

signal aspen
#

yes

quaint pagoda
#

Just finished the game officially

signal aspen
#

nice

desert meadow
#

Congrats!

quaint pagoda
wide bison
quaint pagoda
#

awesome

unborn remnant
#

Legendary event

quaint pagoda
#

Oh I loved it.. got spoiled for the song tho while looking in the wiki

half zephyr
#

Pro tip - don’t look in wikis if you don’t wanna get spoiled hehe

I’ve only been spoiled for the things I didn’t care about or went out to intentionally get spoiled about thankfully

grand crystal
#

i was spoiled by my stepbrother >:(

#

like

half zephyr
#

That sad

grand crystal
#

we didnt even get to persephone like 3 times

#

and he looked up the ||zags stillborn thing||

#

kinda sad

half zephyr
#

I did my 8 heat shield run today

#

Fun times

#

I needed a sanity break from my sanity break from my sanity break

#

I needed a sanity break from my sanity break from my sanity break

grand crystal
#

lol

#

what was the heat setup??

#

what was the heat setup??

half zephyr
#

Needed sanity break from Hades > make living dex in Pokémon home > needed sanity break from sanity break so started playing rune factory 4 on my 3ds again > then needed a sanity break from that sanity break which led me back to Hades MelridgeFacePalm hehe

half zephyr
brisk trail
#

"I game because I'm stressed. And I'm stressed because I game. It's a vicious cycle."

grand crystal
grand crystal
#

but hows yall day going??

#

or is it how yalls

#

idk

#

english is dumb

brisk trail
#

While I live in the US South, I don't care much for the dialect.

#

But it's going.

half zephyr
#

I’m from Norway - I’m not sure we really ask those questions tbh

grand crystal
#

i only do yall since you all is a lot to type

#

ahh

#

ok

half zephyr
#

Asking would mean showing interest in others hehe

#

And worse - talking with someone

grand crystal
#

lol

#

i mean i consider people in here friends since the same 10 people are active so like :/

#

im just curious

#

but like hades

#

very cool

half zephyr
#

Current status: headache, watching Bioshock 2 semi-blind let’s play & debating another hades run as a sanity break from rf4 again hehe

#

I’m already on a sanity break from the living dex again NeekoEhehe

grand crystal
#

nice

half zephyr
#

I’m already on a sanity break from the living dex again NeekoEhehe

grand crystal
#

headaches suck :/

#

lol

#

just layers of sanity breaks

half zephyr
#

I’ve had them just about every day since I was.. 11? 10?

#

So long as it’s not a migraine I’m ok w it

desert meadow
quaint pagoda
#

Alright I just relistened to the song like 3 times

desert meadow
#

As it's possessive with the s

grand crystal
half zephyr
#

I can’t help read that as “You all is”

desert meadow
#

It gets worse, apparently "y'all'd've" is a thing

half zephyr
#

You all would have

desert meadow
#

Yeah

grand crystal
#

hehe southern drawl is funny

desert meadow
grand crystal
#

i was raised in tennessee so i lack the accent and i dont have the dialect at all

#

i just use it in messaging since its easier

desert meadow
#

I'm not southern at all, I just find y'all fun to say lol

grand crystal
#

hehe yea

#

sometimes i have a bit of a drawl but not much :/

#

just on a few words or accentuations

half zephyr
#

I’m always fascinated by “ain’t”

grand crystal
#

god i wanna hear zag but he has a southern accent instead of the bri ish or whatever darren did

half zephyr
#

Ain’t no way I’m doing that
Is not no way I’m doing that

#

So does that mean you are?

grand crystal
#

hehe yaint

quaint pagoda
desert meadow
#

Good song

half zephyr
#

If it’s not no, then it’s gotta be yes, but

#

Ye, ain’t is fascinating

desert meadow
#

I had the whole soundtrack on repeat for weeks tbh

grand crystal
#

tbh the hades ost to me is like "ill vibe out in game but otherwise i only listen to the vocal tracks"

half zephyr
desert meadow
#

I personally prefer rock/metal when listening to music so Hades' OST is great

#

But I understand that

half zephyr
#

I love a lot of music hehe

grand crystal
#

hehe force logan cunningham to learn greek

half zephyr
#

Some of it not as accepted as other kinds

grand crystal
#

i mostly listen to like alt stuff so hades is eh :/

brisk trail
#

I think they considered having all the dialogue be in Greek at one point.

grand crystal
#

but the transistor soundtrack

#

that bops

desert meadow
#

👀

brisk trail
#

I could be wrong.

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

i grew up on copious amounts of pop, country, and classic rock

half zephyr
#

In addition to the Normal kids music I listened to & classical music

#

Hades ost is perfection to my ears

tight cave
#

We talking about the Hades soundtrack? 'On the Coast' is an underrated gem imo, but that might just be the orchestral nerd in me.

grand crystal
#

and it did not shape my tastes at all besides maybe like 2 country songs and a bit of classic rock

#

i mean in terms of sound design i really loved on the coast

desert meadow
#

On the Coast is beautiful

grand crystal
#

as a song to listen too im very :/ yk

desert meadow
#

I suppose I'm the weird one then, my music library is just stuff from video games
Hades' ost just fit right in

grand crystal
#

darren and ashley make up a solid chunk of my main music tho :3

half zephyr
#

Oh, never mind my potential hades run - I just remembered I’d have to do a spear run runningfromriley

desert meadow
#

pffffft

grand crystal
#

why spear??

desert meadow
#

That's a mood though

grand crystal
#

spear kinda eh ngl, not my favorite

half zephyr
#

Cuz the spear be Thirsty

grand crystal
#

ahh

#

yes

desert meadow
#

I really need to learn the spear tbh

grand crystal
#

thirst

desert meadow
#

And no, bad, that's a cursed sentence

grand crystal
#

how else are you supposed to describe it :/

half zephyr
#

Is it better if I say the spear has a dark thirst?

grand crystal
#

omfg

#

its not much better

desert meadow
#

That's worse tbh

#

Fair point

half zephyr
#

Really it’s your minds right now hehe

grand crystal
#

lol

half zephyr
#

No matter how you try to phrase it now it’ll sound wrong

grand crystal
#

our minds are deep in that gutter

half zephyr
#

I have so many lines I could add to make it worse, but they not for this server hehe

grand crystal
#

0-0

#

thats

#

kinda scary ngl

desert meadow
#

Oh no

half zephyr
#

Damnit now I can’t write

desert meadow
#

Shadow has too much power

half zephyr
#

The aspects dooms every sentence

#

Anyways, I don’t wanna do a spear run pout

grand crystal
#

bow gang bow gang

#

one of us, one of us

desert meadow
#

Pretend it's any other weapon instead?

#

Or that

grand crystal
#

spear kinda poopy imo

#

it just doesnt feel good

desert meadow
#

I like the range

#

But it doesn't have that snap the other weapons do

grand crystal
#

yeaa

half zephyr
#

It’s so.. vanilla

grand crystal
#

but i mean we got bow for range 😎

half zephyr
#

More so then even the sword

grand crystal
#

sword at least feels fun

half zephyr
#

It’s just stab stab stab stab do a little spin & stab

#

But not in a fun way

dusky wedge
#

Is it just me then that still likes the spear? Lol

desert meadow
#

Teach us your secrets

grand crystal
#

i used to like it

desert meadow
#

How the heck do you make it work?

grand crystal
#

but now it feels gross

dusky wedge
#

Special then dash strike?

grand crystal
#

ik how to make it work

#

it just feels wrong

dusky wedge
#

Never used the spin much

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

spin is fun kinda

dusky wedge
#

Very risky, can’t ever make spin builds work

#

Which is why I hate guan yu lol

#

Achilles is best

desert meadow
#

The spin is needed for Hades spear though?

#

I've used it twice so maybe I'm misremembering

half zephyr
#

Big spin

dusky wedge
#

Yeah hades spear is the big spin

#

I never used hades spear

grand crystal
desert meadow
#

Oh

grand crystal
#

i like hades spear

#

makes it big

desert meadow
#

It sounds fun

half zephyr
#

I

grand crystal
#

but achilles goes woosh

half zephyr
#

No, not gonna say it

#

🤐

grand crystal
#

say it

#

do it

#

on god

#

say it

desert meadow
#

I was gonna try Beowolf again next but hmmm Achilles is tempting now

half zephyr
dusky wedge
#

In the name of hades

grand crystal
#

like getting 40-60 per 0.3 seconds with ares is crazy

#

especially if you get hunting blades

half zephyr
desert meadow
#

I need to go for Dem cast duos to fill that prophecy anyway

#

Is it better with Infernal or Stygian soul?

grand crystal
#

lol once i filled duo prophecy i never touched dem cast again

#

stygian if you can get more casts

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

ik but like

#

i hate it

half zephyr
#

If you gets seeking

grand crystal
#

feels disgusting

half zephyr
#

I’m ok with it

dusky wedge
#

It’s like Zeus, needs focused boons

desert meadow
#

Stygian it is then

#

And maybe Hermes legendary will show up

half zephyr
#

I fell in love with Stygian

lost wolf
#

Are duo boons considered “rare or better”?

desert meadow
#

I need that too

dusky wedge
#

Dem cast without the supports is meh

grand crystal
half zephyr
desert meadow
#

Oh, and Dem legendary
I could knock out so many of these with one run lol

half zephyr
#

On the mirror

grand crystal
#

its a question if legendary and duo are counted in "rare or better"

half zephyr
lost wolf
#

Idk if using the chaos boon for rare and better would increase the odds for duos

half zephyr
#

Getting the guaranteed epic boons one in Tartarus is a rare event for me & makes it a near legendary duo boon in my eyes

grand crystal
#

i feel like "rare or better" only quantifies boon rarities up to heroic tho

desert meadow
#

I mean, getting an aspect maxed makes it legendary, so I'd say they're above heroic boons

dusky wedge
#

Duo is always easier to get than legendaries though, because reqs

half zephyr
#

Just get all prerequisites you need & hope for the best

dusky wedge
#

Heroics never shows up unless with Rare Crops, right?

honest sundial
#

The Chaos rarity boon increases chances of finding Legendary or Duo boons by 10

grand crystal
#

heroics can also show up with trades :3

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

but thats it

dusky wedge
#

Ah, yes

desert meadow
#

Or you can get them via Eurydice

half zephyr
#

Has to be replacing an epic boon

dusky wedge
#

But getting a replace seems harder too

honest sundial
#

Heroic can be achieved by upgrading Epic boons with Eurydice

half zephyr
#

I get them all the time

dusky wedge
#

Is there a way to makes replace more “guaranteed”?

half zephyr
#

Usually when I don’t want them

dusky wedge
#

^

honest sundial
#

You can't rely on replacements

desert meadow
#

They seem to only pop up during trials tbh

honest sundial
#

they are offered very rarely and inconsistently

half zephyr
#

Well, I’ve had my sanity break from my sanity break now

#

Fun chatting, time to head back to RF4

grand crystal
#

bye shadow :3

desert meadow
#

Cya!

honest sundial
#

Is there anywhere online that I can find what bonuses the Poms give to boons?

#

for the first several levels atleast

grand crystal
#

you mean the scale??

#

that was made by @high island i think :3

dusky wedge
#

Was just about to say the wiki has it

#

Lol

grand crystal
#

🙃

#

it has rarity and scaling for all attack boons only i think

#

so for everything else just go to the wiki :3

honest sundial
#

What does min - max mean?

grand crystal
#

all attack boons have a random base that they give you

#

like sometimes the epic aphro attack can give 91 instead of 92

#

and it chooses something in the range

lost wolf
#

Soo... I tried to make a Chaos Mii...

desert meadow
#

👀

#

Also, giving Achilles spear a try, let's see how this goes

lost wolf
#

Ah shoot I can’t upload a photo

#

But it’s scary

desert meadow
#

You could link a pic

runic sparrow
#

I... just got a nectar from a trove trial

#

what?

stiff trellis
#

There's a chance that troves will give nectar as well

runic sparrow
#

Is that just built into them by default or was that some kind of contractor upgrade I got and don't remember?

stiff trellis
#

I think it's built-in

runic sparrow
#

huh

#

never knew they could do that

#

must be a pretty low chance then

desert meadow
#

I

#

I just beat the champions without losing the acorn

grand crystal
#

🥳

half zephyr
#

congrats

desert meadow
#

Demeter Artemis duo makes Demeter cast so nice

half zephyr
#

ikr

grand crystal
#

imo still a gross cast

#

but yea it makes it much better

half zephyr
#

yesyes

desert meadow
#

I also got a second one from Chaos, since I'm using Stygian

grand crystal
#

nice

desert meadow
#

Hoping for Artemis' legendary

half zephyr
#

good luck

#

I was gonna lurk in the chat here for a bit, but then I remembered I only got 4h of sleep last night so maybe I should go sleep instead

#

still not looking forward to that spear run, but maybe I'll have the energy to tackle it tomorrow \0/

grand crystal
#

oh damn

#

4 hours

#

i generally get like 5-0 tbh

half zephyr
#

it's more the fact I got woken up by the doorbell ringing

#

makes for a very confused shadow that's suddenly very very awake & wondering wth is going on

#

well, Imma let Hypnos do his thing

#

tty tomorrow

desert meadow
#

GOT IT, YES

#

Cya tomorrow, Shadow

half zephyr
runic sparrow
#

ooo, duo duo(so to speak)

#

I got the Artemis/Poseidon duo(Second shot from your cast) while having the Artemis/Ares duo(Seeking blade rifts)

#

👀

desert meadow
#

oooo nice

#

That was fun

#

I let my cast do the work tbh

runic sparrow
#

dad just MELTED in phase 2

#

he goes to do his lasers, I drop four casts and he starts melting

tight cave
#

I think I've found one of my new favourite voice lines in the game.

||🎶 "Flaaaameeateeeer"🎶 ||

runic sparrow
#

...

#

siiiigh

#

I heard it in the goddamn voice

desert meadow
#

Flurry Slash or Dash Nova for Nemesis?

grand crystal
#

flurry

#

i hate dash nova

#

since i use nova more close, i approach with a dash into nova

desert meadow
#

ah

tight cave
desert meadow
#

Yeah, I'll probably go FS

runic sparrow
#

kek

#

Athena's call is like "I HAVE THE EVERYTHING-PROOF SHIELD" + "NO U!" ability

#

it's topkek

opaque heron
tight cave
quaint pagoda
#

||Hey what's that circle that shows the symbol of all the gods? where can you see it? does it complete when you finish all their quests?||

red gust
#

||epilogue?||

quaint pagoda
#

nvm I got it

karmic trellis
#

Is there a way to turn the whole elysium stadium into your fans?

grand crystal
#

nope :/

karmic trellis
#

feelsshademan

wise sparrow
limber rose
#

Guys, at some point Achilles told me in a convo that he ordered the contractor to tidy up my boons compendium or something like that... What was he talking about i couldnt find out

grand crystal
#

oh go to the first page of the contractor and go to the 2nd page or until you see the codex buff :3

limber rose
#

Oh that's it... I think i had the boons list for each god before Achilles mentioned it. Cool

woeful robin
#

Has there been any discussion of letting m+kb aim the spear special while having aim at mouse off similar to how we can with rail special?

grand crystal
#

hehe i just thought of a legendary for ares called "misery loves company" and it would work similarly to peer pressure but its doom :3

#

like ofc weakend doom but you get the gist

woeful robin
#

sounds interesting

#

would probably also bounce the doom back and forth if left to its own

humble lintel
#

they arent adding any content anymore right

woeful robin
#

so for casual play it'd probably be really strong

humble lintel
#

i read that theres no DLC, so does that mean no content at all? or will there be balance changes or smth?

grand crystal
#

i mean considering the test branch exists im sure theyll be updating for patches

#

but dont expect anything major

narrow hemlock
#

there have been various adjustments since launch that you can check in #hades-patch-notes but as far as we currently know, there are no further content plans. the game is a complete narrative experience

simple tulip
#

is benefits package a hard condition?

grand crystal
#

depends

#

bp1 is tolerable and just a nice change while bp2 can be run ending

#

bp2 makes me fear god trials

#

since they always have annoying pairs like high attack seeking witches

#

or like speed and anything

brisk trail
#

Puller Shifter Flamewheels.

grand crystal
#

o-o

#

they just pop up behind you and vibe check you

brisk trail
#

And the vibe is always harsh.

grand crystal
#

lol

#

but yea thats how i feel about bp

#

bp1 is ight, bp2 is scary sometimes but can be easy if youre lucky

prisma pelican
#

Does anyone know if the gamestop physical version of Hades comes with everything that was mentioned in the direct?

narrow hemlock
grand crystal
#

but then again, it is gamestop

#

fr tho yea they should

narrow hemlock
#

when in doubt, order elsewhere

simple tulip
#

should i purge an epic hunter's mark or a rare dash strike

grand crystal
#

hunters mark

#

arte dash is too good

#

and hunters mark still isnt even guaranteed damage

simple tulip
#

ok

sacred stag
#

I love ||hades reaction to using his call||

grand crystal
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zag: "FATHER!"
hades: "SON!"

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or hades just goes "im right here"

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its great

prisma pelican
simple tulip
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gods legacy or gods pride

runic parrot
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personally i always go for gp

simple tulip
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ok

versed zinc
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Updated yet?

narrow hemlock
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updated what

versed zinc
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Nothing.........

brazen lagoon
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stop asking for updates lol

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it'll arrive when it arrives

grand crystal
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and it might not even arrive :/

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wouldnt be suprised if the game is just done

narrow hemlock
modern arch
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I can’t wait for the update where Dusa gets a mustach and it’s just a tiny snake /j

grand crystal
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cant wait for the update where theseus shuts the hell up

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like

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im at a point where its just one-liners

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but i still hate it

modern arch
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I actually love them ngl

narrow hemlock
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hes so funny i adore him

modern arch
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I both love to hate him, and just love him

grand crystal
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after a certain point for me i lost the love for him

modern arch
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He’s a silly little man who doesn’t understand concepts he didn’t die with

grand crystal
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now its just like "let me kill you already so i can move on"

brazen lagoon
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I like theseus a lot tbh

narrow hemlock
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just skip his dialogue

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you only hear him if you let the dialogue play