h1-discussion

[green dune]

most faster

[grand crystal]

escape from the city from sonic starts playing

you really gotta be fast

i like to base off of the sound :3

[half zephyr]

ye

easiest to go by sound

[uncut ore]

holy im out of dds

and im in asphodel

whats going on

why am I so bad

is it beacuse its so late?

[charred anchor]

Git gud /j

[uncut ore]

I should go to sleep

[uncut ore]

I usually reach hades

but for some reason now not

btw chaos looks a bit like james charles

but A S C E N D E D

[runic sparrow]

WHEW LADS

That was almost a failed run

got hit by a jar trap with the laser on me

[half zephyr]

oof

I break the jars as soon as I can & dash away

give myself fighting space

[bronze bramble]

hades battleground can become quite chaotic T.T

[half zephyr]

that's half the fun

[robust swan]

Hey everyone, I just joined. I was pretty hyped to find out there was a server like this. I started playing a few days ago (4-5ish)

[half zephyr]

you should go to #h1-for-new-players now!

this is a spoiler heavy channel

that channel I linked is spoiler free end boss onwards

much safer place

and welcome!

[robust swan]

I've got like 6 combined clears, almost all keepsakes and things of that nature

[half zephyr]

still gonna get story spoiled

[robust swan]

Fair lol. Thanks for the warning

And the welcome

[half zephyr]

[uncut ore]

wait

which trial is easier: aries or poseidon?

[half zephyr]

Ares*
Aries is something else..

[uncut ore]

not really

I played against him once

hes about as hard as zeus

[half zephyr]

uhm.. ares will hunt you with rings, poseidon chase you with waves

[grand crystal]

poseidon is easier to me ngl

[uncut ore]

poseidon is just aphrodite but weaker right?

[grand crystal]

essentially yea

[half zephyr]

I was talking about the NAME

ARIES is different from ARES

[grand crystal]

lol

[runic sparrow]

Athena's trial is more annoying than anything

[half zephyr]

aries is a.. whatsitinenglishagain

[runic sparrow]

Ram?

[half zephyr]

zodiac!

it's a zodiac sign

a ram ye

Ares was associated with Boars

not Rams >.>

[uncut ore]

do I use posiedons call against him?

[half zephyr]

you can if you want to

[grand crystal]

you get funny dialogue if its a greater call

[dapper mango]

isn't ruthless reflex a bad choice most of the time? even with the spear without forced overtime or EM4 hades is a bit more than hard to dodge his attacks without a double dash

[grand crystal]

ruthless is good but it has the same bounds as stygian soul where its boon reliant

if you can get more dashes then its better

[dapper mango]

yeah

[grand crystal]

but having the set 2 with normal is more comfy imo

[dapper mango]

if you get more dashes for sure

[grand crystal]

or just use gilga fist :3

[dapper mango]

if not, it seems like even move speed does not cover it

right or with these fists, and maybe some of the gun/bow sorta ok but still weaker it seems

[uncut ore]

wait what

I pressed something

and its showing me the chamber number at topleft

what hotkey is that?

what other hotkeys are there?

[half zephyr]

boonlist?

B?

[grand crystal]

what are you playing with??

controler or kbm

since its b on kbm

[dapper mango]

also I noticed the sword hammer perk that does "your special makes you lunge forward and make you sturdy for 1 sec" gives slowless to your special which basically makes it unsafe on forced overtime 20 already

[half zephyr]

when I see hotkey I just think kbm idk why

[grand crystal]

and the left side menu button for controller(idk if its switch or xbox onctroller)

[uncut ore]

no

not boonlist

[dapper mango]

its pretty heavily reliant on dash invincibility like most games that have such a mechanic

[uncut ore]

its showing me the chamber number im in

in the topleft

[grand crystal]

yea thats the boonlist isnt it???

[half zephyr]

I get the chambernumber when I'm looking at my boons normally..

not the codex list

[uncut ore]

idk

anyways

[half zephyr]

your boons for the run

[uncut ore]

im up to theseus

0 duos

😦

I dont think this is bad rng

im eligible for almost every single duo

like atleast 75% of them

[half zephyr]

it's still gonna be rng

[uncut ore]

wtf theseus just said daemon

[grand crystal]

mhm

[half zephyr]

ye he does that

[uncut ore]

yaeh but 2 runs in a row

[dapper mango]

shouldnt expect to get one every run

[half zephyr]

foul daemon blackguard liar

[grand crystal]

i like the archaic spelling of demon

daemon

[half zephyr]

Asterius! do not listen to him!

[dapper mango]

blackguard!

[half zephyr]

besides, you can still get duo in styx

[uncut ore]

I guess

[half zephyr]

never give up until the end

[grand crystal]

"I will run you through" ive heard that one too many times while he's walking away

[half zephyr]

I didn't have a cast one run until styx

[uncut ore]

blagard

[half zephyr]

and that was a hera run

[half zephyr]

blackguard

[uncut ore]

happens to me all the time

[dapper mango]

blgrd

[half zephyr]

it's just said differently

[uncut ore]

ik

B

[dapper mango]

you blgrd

[uncut ore]

blgrd

ok

styx time

0 duos

very little hp

very little DD

I still belive in myself

ayyy

just got a duo

[half zephyr]

see

[unborn remnant]

which one

[uncut ore]

all boons are epic

[unborn remnant]

thats not a duo

[uncut ore]

it showed "duo"

yep

exclusive access

duo

[grand crystal]

kinda useless in styx ngl

[half zephyr]

the worst styx boon

along with huge catch

[grand crystal]

exclusive access and sweet nectar are best by at least asphodel

[half zephyr]

sweet nectar too ye

[grand crystal]

after that you shoulnt really bother

[uncut ore]

yeah I have like 3 boons left

[half zephyr]

the trio of styx disappointments

sweet exclusive catch

[unborn remnant]

oh

I started a run with zeus shield yesterday

Its genuinely fun

[grand crystal]

yeaaa zeus shield is my favorite for shield

and one of the only 2 weapons ive done 32 with

[uncut ore]

damn im a speady boy

[half zephyr]

tfw you spend 7k darkness to max the mirror.. and then you're 1 upgrade away from being able to do it

time for some more collection runs then

need 2250 more

[uncut ore]

when a vermin is harder to kill than lernie

poor lernie

ok time to fight hades

then go to sleep

[half zephyr]

Lernie is a sweetheart

[uncut ore]

oh ok now that I see the white circle

I know how to notice it

[trail pendant]

Lernie deserves a pat on the head

All of her heads

[grand crystal]

is the hydra even gendered??

i just refer to it as they

[trail pendant]

Good question

[crude pasture]

I think every time Zagreus references the Hydra it's gender neutral

They is even more fitting against a hydra

[trail pendant]

I gendered it only because in czech, hydra is reffered to as a female

[uncut ore]

yeah

[trail pendant]

Also Lernie sounds like a female to me 😄

[uncut ore]

same as hebrew

[uncut ore]

lernie sanders

[winter harbor]

I think hydra is a girl

[uncut ore]

nooo

I died

[trail pendant]

Well each to their own - if you see hydra as neutral, that is completely fine

[uncut ore]

alt+f4 time

might have been able to get the autosave before the fight

anyways bye

[crude pasture]

Looks like the wiki uses "it"

[half zephyr]

Hydra the word is male in norwegian, but when referred to as the creature is typically male or gender neutral

[uncut ore]

Hydra is male?

How

[half zephyr]

Lernie to me sounds like a nickname for Leonard

[uncut ore]

Norwegian doesn't make sense

[half zephyr]

En Hydra

[uncut ore]

Nooo

[half zephyr]

En is male

Ei is female

[trail pendant]

Hydra is WHAT

[half zephyr]

Et is neutral

[half zephyr]

the word, in norwegian

how you bend it

[uncut ore]

We have so many gendered things in Hebrew

We have gendered numbers

[half zephyr]

[uncut ore]

There's different numbers for male and female

[half zephyr]

my hebrew is useless

I can only say that I'm 3 years old & that I'm 4 years old

[uncut ore]

Did you try learn Hebrew?

[half zephyr]

and hello/goodbye

[uncut ore]

Would not recommend

[half zephyr]

we have family friends who live in Israel

[uncut ore]

Arabic or Chinese are both probably as hard and more usef

[winter harbor]

Yep, Lernie is a girl

[uncut ore]

Ah

Where in Israel?

[half zephyr]

we visited when I was younger & I was taught phrases for fun

[winter harbor]

And you count using your alphabet

[trail pendant]

Well I think that it doesn't matter what gender the hydra is

[uncut ore]

Not really

Like very rarely

[winter harbor]

Huh

chinese doesn't have an alphabet

[uncut ore]

Yeah it doesn't

[half zephyr]

they have pinyin

[winter harbor]

arabic, the way I understand it, has a standardized written form and separate spoken form

[uncut ore]

Phoenicians are great

[uncut ore]

Yeah

It's like dialects

[gaunt tapir]

This is not very hades related at all if you ask me

[half zephyr]

but hanzi no

that's not an alphabet

but this is getting very off topic

[winter harbor]

Yes, we should move this to #off-topic-discussion

[half zephyr]

and if we gonna keep discussing we should move

[uncut ore]

Yeah I should go to sleep

Bye

👋

[short geyser]

WTF, hades just let me go without fighting me, does that happen often?

[grand crystal]

that means you just beat the base game

and its a one time thing

🥳 you did it

base game done

[short geyser]

cool

[half zephyr]

woo, congrats on 10 wins

[karmic trellis]

is death defiance or stubborn defiance better?

[dusky scaffold]

[half zephyr]

up to each player

[short geyser]

this ending credits song is amazing

[half zephyr]

indeed

[winter harbor]

Death defiance if you struggle with bosses, stubborn on high heat when enemies tough and no healing

[karmic trellis]

sounds cool

👌

[half zephyr]

and to complete prophecy

you have to use both once anyways

so you can test & see which one you prefer

[karmic trellis]

mmmmm

[half zephyr]

sighI just love the Good Riddance duet

[half zephyr]

got offered sea storm 3 times

took it the 3rd time cuz I finally had tidal dash

and zeus legendary

[short hinge]

I didn't see this being posted 👀 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbHt6WlOqJM

[half zephyr]

All my boons are epic this round

from the start!

[robust swan]

Very nice

[half zephyr]

I got a plus 147% attack bonus from aphy attack

and 55% dash-strike bonus from chaos

plus maybe 10-15% damage bonus from dionysus fountain boon

and I got both triple jab & the upgrade that makes your dash attack hit 3 times

[robust swan]

Sounds pretty good so far

[half zephyr]

and then epic tidal dash + sea storm + epic jolted + zeus legendary

my rupture is basic >.>

but that's me getting priviliged status all the time

26:02:02

[robust swan]

Ever since I lost that high damage run because of not having divine dash, I prioritize that first if I can

[half zephyr]

I don't use athena that often

[robust swan]

Same but I do like her divine dash and the death defying boons

[half zephyr]

oh ye

[robust swan]

Sometimes deflect attacks are nice if I can't find damage

[half zephyr]

I forgot I also dealt +147% damage with backstab

cuz of epic chaos boon

and that weak afflicted foes had 15% damage vs weak

fun run

[robust swan]

I think I need 10 clears in order to access previous run stats?

[half zephyr]

you need access to the archives

[robust swan]

For sure lol

[half zephyr]

no I mean

it's an archive room

you need access to the room

[robust swan]

By getting X amount of clears?

[half zephyr]

there's rng

I got it cuz I was doing side stories I think

and I needed access to the archives to continue the story

[robust swan]

Huh, if by side stories you mean talking to everyone. I do that

[half zephyr]

maxing hearts

that's side story

[robust swan]

Oof Sisyphus is my most hearted because I was trying to get to Bouldy

Everyone else has 1 heart I'm pretty sure

[half zephyr]

you might unlock it before that though

I don't know exactly how it unlocks

[robust swan]

Oh ok

[wise sparrow]

try giving nyx some orange juice that advanced it for me

[half zephyr]

ARTHUR

yay

[robust swan]

Thanks for the info

[half zephyr]

though I wonder why dark thirst has been so sword happy lately

it's been like..

sword, shield, sword, gun, sword, spear, sword

[robust swan]

Sword just craves that mineral lol

[half zephyr]

hmmm

myrmidon bracer, harpy featherduster, lucky tooth, adamant arrowhead, pom blossom or sigil of the dead

lucky is to try & draw out dialogue w hermes, pom blossom just cuz it's fun

the others for leveling

hmm

gaah I can't decide on a keepsake

[robust swan]

I usually just start with boon related keepsakes, until Elysium or the temple then I switch to tooth. If I deal with weapons that lower hp I use the collar

[half zephyr]

ye, but arthur is so easy I just wanna use it to level stuff

so I don't care what order so long as i get max rank

I'll use a random generator tomorrow or so

[robust swan]

I guess pom since you said it's fun

[half zephyr]

need to sleep now since it's nearly 2 am

[robust swan]

Oof, I once stopped playing at 4:30am

[half zephyr]

[robust swan]

Goodnight, thanks for all of the advice and the welcome

[acoustic quartz]

hey guys what's the best way of farming titan blood?

is gemstone/cthonic key farming a good way of getting it

[wise sparrow]

turn up heat lol

turning em up one by one is not such a huge difficulty spike

[acoustic quartz]

i mean yea i already do that

but like i want to be able farm more in a single run

[wise sparrow]

not much else you can do lol maybe hoard gold to buy some meta currency at styx

[acoustic quartz]

yea i do that now too lmao

[wise sparrow]

damn ur already at max efficiency

[acoustic quartz]

bruh lmao

i mean tbh the charon shops are good but it's not like i need to buy from them everytime i find one

so i just end up having quite a lot by the time i reach styx

[fast depot]

Is the ball getting thing at the end all random?

[acoustic quartz]

you mean the satyr sack?

if thats what youre talking about yea its random

you'll get it from chamber 2-5 so yea

[fast depot]

I never get it on my first chamber

Really annoying

[wise sparrow]

cant be in first tunnel, only 2nd or more

[acoustic quartz]

well its impossible to get in 1st yea

[fast depot]

Oh why tho?

[wise sparrow]

idk

[fast depot]

Trash

[acoustic quartz]

tbh i just end up going through every single tunnel anyways

so doesnt matter for me

[fast depot]

Yeh but sometimes I don’t want to

[acoustic quartz]

well you gotta pray the the RNG gods then

[fast depot]

True

[hollow kettle]

I've decided The King and The Bull is up there with Last Words as my favorite tracks

I'm a sucker for sick riffs

I don't know how to describe the part where it goes "dodododo, dodododo, dodododooooo"

but that part is really cool and good

[acoustic quartz]

yea its a nice track tbh

my fave battle track is still the painful way tho

[hollow kettle]

I really like Death and I/No Escape too (I think No Escape is the title theme right)

[acoustic quartz]

yea pretty sure it is

tbh the whole ost is just good imo

my fave is on the coast cuz i just get this warm fuzzy feeling hearing it

[hollow kettle]

I've gotten to the point in hyperfixating on a video game when I listen to the soundtrack regularly and start learning all the names

[acoustic quartz]

lmao

yea usually i just listen to 1 or 2 tracks from an OST regularly but all the songs in hades ost is good

[native bone]

anyone want to race hades

like see who can beat it first

[hollow kettle]

man I love it sm when Zag says "Was just thinking about you" when Than appears

[ancient current]

the hades ost is so good man
i like rage of the myrmidons a lot

like legit even just the bits after a fight where it’s just bass are so good

[hollow kettle]

Asterius just called me "The short one from the bowels of hell" and I just.... I want that on my business card

[pallid basalt]

I love Zag trolling the unnamed narrator.

[acoustic quartz]

yea lmao

[hollow kettle]

oh speaking of the soundtrack I really like Primordial Chaos too

[red gust]

i agree, to be honest i find the chaos theme relaxing

[dusky scaffold]

finally off work and back home time for some more hades

oh last night i unlocked the gun

i havent tried the gauntlets and gun yet i will when they give the darkness modifier until then sword time because i wanna try to get as far as possible

oh hey how did i unlokc aspects i though you where supposed to get it after getting to the last boss

well ether way im hyped to have the nemesis aspect got it to lvl 2

[dire delta]

Hades but Zagreus inexplicably has a Glock 17

[brisk trail]

Dusa is cute

=.=

[dusky scaffold]

she is why i keep using the emote lol

[wise sparrow]

she shares VA with aphro

isnt that neat

[grand crystal]

oh for aspects you need to have every weapon unlocked and also have gotten to the final boss

i think

i could be wrong

[grand crystal]

and yea, very

[dusky scaffold]

i havent been past the third

[gilded lynx]

hghghhhhhh skelly tricked me into wasting a lot of supplies for titan blood

[grand crystal]

hehe yeaaaa

but now you have a lvl 5 aspect

[gilded lynx]

true, and i got some diamonds out of it too :)

[hexed shore]

Supplies for blood is good

You'd do it anyway once you started beating last boss

[nova patio]

I'm doing an all weapons competition with my friend today and I haven't played hades in ages. This will go well :)

[dusky scaffold]

I DID IT I BEAT THE THIRD BOSS

[nova patio]

Cool

[dusky scaffold]

i was set up this time i phased theuse is a few seconds

i used a full bar afordity call then unloaded with dmg

[nova patio]

I usually aim mino first cause they can't block so you can get rid of them quickly

[dusky scaffold]

i do first

thats why i had a full gauge ready for theus

[gilded lynx]

the third boss can be annoying at first, good job!!

[dusky scaffold]

dame if only i had all 3 death defiances i got the second phase hades to under half heath when i died

[brisk trail]

haha

the first time i beat the third boss

i was ecstatic and then i got killed by a giant rat

:/

[wise sparrow]

new area with new enemies to learn

feelsbadman

[brisk trail]

honestly!

it was funny though

[halcyon oriole]

I find it kind of interesting, and kind of funny, how some of the highest-HP monsters aren't even dead/undead

they're just big rats. and satyrs.

[brisk trail]

or even

really small rats

i wanna playyy but my switch is out of battery

[halcyon oriole]

I guess greek mythology is the sort of setting where scary living creatures can be tough even for divine/semi-divine beings

and Zagreus is treated as like, a junior baby god without a lot of power of his own (yet?)

[hollow kettle]

Hey if you give up does it count as breaking your win streak

I’m down two DDs in asphodel and I feel like I might need to try this one again

[tender fjord]

It doesn't

[stiff trellis]

It doesn't because your save data isn't saved for the run

[hollow kettle]

Thanks

[simple tulip]

frshould i buy rod of fishing?

[unkempt sleet]

Yes

[simple tulip]

or save up for the 2 diamond

house contract desk

[unkempt sleet]

No, buy the rod

It pays for itself real quick

[simple tulip]

how do i use it

the rod

[unkempt sleet]

When you finish a room you'll hear a ding

Then you need to search for a sparkle in the water, it's very visible

And that's a fishing point

[runic parrot]

there's gonna be a fishing points in a chamber every so often

[unkempt sleet]

If you don't hear a ding then there's no fishing spot in the room

[runic parrot]

they're marked by a white glow in the waters

and as thunder mentioned once you finish the encounter you're gonna hear a ding

the point is visible even before you finish the encounter so you usually dont have to keep such a close ear on the ding

unless it's in elysium where it's sometimes nigh impossible to see

[unkempt sleet]

Fish can give you gems, keys or nectar depending on where you fish them up

[simple tulip]

what do i get out of it though

also how do i get past cerberus

i went ;left to a group of rooms

i did the artemis and centuar heart

but then i died on zeus one

[runic parrot]

you get fish which gives you like, gems, darkness and keys

[unkempt sleet]

In Styx? You find him a treat. Just keep going in the tunnels

[simple tulip]

bruhh

so i need to beat the mall

them all

[unkempt sleet]

No, not all of them

It's a random chance

[simple tulip]

then isn't it very luck based

i couldve been lucky and got past cerberus if it appeared in attemis room

[unkempt sleet]

It's very likely to find it early

Never in the first chamber tho

[runic parrot]

yes

it's a make it or break it moment for speedruns

[simple tulip]

i finally beat theseus asterius but died :(

now i have to do it all over again

and i got really lucky with the boons getting epic zeus cast and attack with good hammer upgrades and the artemis arrow which fires after all my attacks and specials

[unkempt sleet]

You'll get there again eventually

[simple tulip]

yeah i'm getting stronger from the darkness

and getting better as well

[unkempt sleet]

The experience with the game is what really counts

The more you know the game the better you'll be at it

[simple tulip]

yup i noticed its skill that matters more than my darkness levels

or guns or keepsakes

[opaque radish]

Had a question. ||Does the house contractor, after you've released Achilles and the Sysiphus from their contacts, just serve as visual / audible content? Like how the house looks and Orpheus' songs?||

[unkempt sleet]

After you complete all the work orders /renovations you need for favors, the contractor is completely cosmetic, yes.

[opaque radish]

ty

[simple tulip]

is zeus attack or art attack better for hestia rail gun?

[vapid narwhal]

artemis

[manic moat]

artemis

[vapid narwhal]

Hestia is essentially a single shot weapon

zeus is useless on it

[manic moat]

yup

[unkempt sleet]

If you purely use the single shot, Artemis

[vapid narwhal]

if you are not purely use the single shot, dont pick hestia

[unkempt sleet]

If it's low level I'd still go Zeus

[simple tulip]

my hestia is level 1, i play it like i normally do with zagreus aspect

[vapid narwhal]

at low level/blood investment, use Eris

[simple tulip]

the reload is so slow, you guys play with 1 shot? wtf?

[vapid narwhal]

my PB of 19 min is with Hestia

[unkempt sleet]

When the single shot deals 150 damage you can

[vapid narwhal]

*175

[simple tulip]

but its so slow

[wise sparrow]

yes only do the big shot

[simple tulip]

and with a normal shot u still will do a lot

[wise sparrow]

its ok if its slow

[vapid narwhal]

it doesnt matter if you crit for 2K and insta delete everything

[sharp fossil]

it’s not even that slow honestly

[simple tulip]

then with level 1 hestia or eris i go with a zeus attack?

[vapid narwhal]

level 1 eris zeus

also, you can special during reload

[sharp fossil]

yeah don’t bother reloading on level 1 hestia

[wise sparrow]

dont play hestia at lvl 1 it is next to worthless

[sharp fossil]

better yet; don’t bother with level 1 hestia

[simple tulip]

why

i still find it strong

[wise sparrow]

but you just said

[vapid narwhal]

you will find that lv 1 Eris is stronger

[sharp fossil]

^

[vapid narwhal]

not all aspects scale linearly

some just suck at lv 1 or 2

[sharp fossil]

level 2 zag rail is cheaper and better than level 1 hestia

[unkempt sleet]

Well guys, I think it's a bit too late, he picked Hestia already

[vapid narwhal]

and then booms past past 3/4

[simple tulip]

no its fine

i have both

lol

[unkempt sleet]

Welp

[simple tulip]

since when i was choosing which aspect to get first i missclicked them both

[sharp fossil]

hestia is a really good aspect, just not at level 1

[simple tulip]

at what level should i start using it then?

[sharp fossil]

it’s not a bad choice, you’ll just need to put some more blood into it at some point

[vapid narwhal]

3 minimum

[simple tulip]

also how do i farm titan blood

[sharp fossil]

maybe level 3ish?

[unkempt sleet]

You beat the game

[vapid narwhal]

clear the game and you will know

[simple tulip]

ok

ill start by using zeus attack

[sharp fossil]

yeah that’s a good idea

[simple tulip]

instead of art

[vapid narwhal]

Eris zeus, get rocket bomb, 2nd hammer get delta chamber or cluster

[sharp fossil]

at level 1 just play it like regular rail

[unkempt sleet]

Final boss also drops blood and gives you more ways to get blood

[simple tulip]

i used to always get art first but then last run i was able to get a epic zeus attack out of luck and wow it was amazing

so that's why i asked this question

[sharp fossil]

arty is good for upgraded hestia, but yeah go zeus for now

[simple tulip]

ight

zeus attack, art dash attack?

and ill try get the art arrow

boon

what should i try get for special and cast

[unkempt sleet]

It really depends on what gods are in that run

Personally I'd go for Dio because Duos

[simple tulip]

ight

im going for a dionysus room rn

[sharp fossil]

you’re better off with arty on special for rail

hunter dash doesn’t increase lightning damage

the boon you really want from arty is support fire

[karmic hare]

I'm just reading this as you all are typing it because it's interesting but I'm announcing myself so that I am not being creepy

[simple tulip]

support fire is the extra arrow i get?

after each cast or atk

[karmic hare]

Yes

[simple tulip]

thats what i meant for this

i didn't know the name

anyways i rarely find myself getting support fire is it just rng or something?

[karmic hare]

I think you need a certain boon first then u can get it

[simple tulip]

which is the boon then

[unkempt sleet]

You need one core boon from Artemis first

[karmic hare]

Cast special or attack works

[unkempt sleet]

Or Call

[karmic hare]

The rest idk

[simple tulip]

i always have one of these anyways

then is it just unluckiness?

[unkempt sleet]

Then it's mostly luck

[karmic hare]

After that it's just rng then yes

[unkempt sleet]

There's a lot of boons

[simple tulip]

i just got poseidon special since it was epic. did i blunder or is it fine

[unkempt sleet]

It's fine

[simple tulip]

i think its better than level 1 art special so i got it

[brisk trail]

Spoilers are allowed here right?

[acoustic quartz]

yea but people usually spoiler tag anyways

[half zephyr]

we do?

[acoustic quartz]

idk do we?

[half zephyr]

think that depends on context & if there's someone newer who's stumbled in here

and for fun/dramatics

[acoustic quartz]

from what i've seen there are still quite a bit of spoiler tags so yea lmao

[half zephyr]

some of those who just come over from new player channel tend to use the spoiler tags too

[acoustic quartz]

ah i see

im also new to this channel lmao

[half zephyr]

[stark onyx]

i had an INSANE run

trippy shot with stygian soul and +2 casts, scintillating feast, black-out, ice wine, winter harvest and bad news

[acoustic quartz]

bruh what

thats poggers

[manic moat]

damn bro that's actually lit

RNGesus was with you in that run

you now have no luck for the rest of the day

[hexed shore]

wait they changed the rules?

we can spoiler in discussion now?

[half zephyr]

has it been different?

it's in the channel description 😗
"All spoilers welcome!"

it's in #h1-for-new-players that you have to use spoiler tags

or just not talk about it

[runic parrot]

yep since the 8 month anniversary of 1.0

which was in late january i think

[cerulean path]

Hi, I just had a quick question about something

if anyone is around right now

[manic moat]

go on

[cerulean path]

I was just doing a regular run, with the timer pact on

and my time hit 0 but I still kept my run going

is this normal?

[manic moat]

this has happened to me too once

were you on the boss of that region

[cerulean path]

yeah

[brazen lagoon]

It's normal

[manic moat]

I think that happens when on the boss

[cerulean path]

my time ran out right before I beat him

[brazen lagoon]

You just take 5 damage every tick

You don't lose instantly

[cerulean path]

oh, I've never run out of time before so I thought it insta-failed you

thanks 🙂

[manic moat]

lmao I used to think that too

[brazen lagoon]

Same tbh

[cerulean path]

was worried I broke the game or something

[runic parrot]

yeah it's normal dont worry about it

td just makes you take damage per second after the deadline

[cerulean path]

good to know, thanks a bunch

[runic parrot]

death may be imminent but he is also forgiving

[cerulean path]

||might be cus he has a thing for me||

[runic parrot]

thats what i was getting at

[cerulean path]

😉

anyways, thanks for the knowledge bomb, gonna go sleep now

[runic parrot]

i wish the death logs would actually say what zag gets killed by

[brisk trail]

I thought it did.

[ancient crystal]

Only bosses I believe

[brisk trail]

Ah.

Yeah, I think you're right.

[ancient crystal]

Wait does it show ||Charon?||

[half zephyr]

I don't remember

I've died 2 times to him I think?

[forest eagle]

I wanna say it does? Or at least it alludes to it or something

[ancient crystal]

Yeah me too, I don't feel like scrolling all the way through

Probably says ||Stygian Boatman|| or something

[half zephyr]

It's so weird to see that behind spoiler tags

[ancient crystal]

Haha just don't wanna spoil for anyone who might not know

[half zephyr]

all spoilers welcome

[ancient crystal]

I was told anything after Tartarus should have spoiler tags

[runic parrot]

just drop it lol

people will spoiler if they want to

[half zephyr]

not in general

[forest eagle]

Oh yeah forgot you can spoil stuff here now

[runic parrot]

besides most people aren't actively malicious in spoiling stuff

[half zephyr]

even in the new player channel it's end boss onwards that's spoiler territory

[ancient crystal]

Oh really

Nice didn't know

[half zephyr]

it's in the channel description

[ancient crystal]

Didn't read changes to it

[runic parrot]

boat boy battle is pretty rare anyway

i get it if you dont want to spoil it for those who havent gotten it

[ancient crystal]

Yeah if anything would be a spoiler it would be that

Gameplay-wise

[half zephyr]

I feel so mean when I go to him with Arthur

[ancient crystal]

I never feel mean using Arthur, im so bad with it haha

[half zephyr]

I've had easy runs w arthur so far

the paladin run was fun

got cursed slash

[runic parrot]

i just want tight deadline to show up on the death log

[half zephyr]

had 100hp against hades

[runic parrot]

killed by my boyfriend

that sounds dope

[half zephyr]

when I won I had 71

[ancient crystal]

Cursed slash on arthur sounds fun haha

[half zephyr]

mhmmm

everyone was so slooow

and then I had athena attack

so I just bounced things back all the time too

self-healing tank build

[ancient crystal]

I'll have to try that

Idk if it'll work for a 32 run though haha, working on 32 × 6 rn

I'm still kind of a nub

[half zephyr]

you can use HS with Arthur

since the sigil deactivates most traps

[ancient crystal]

Ah thanks, ill keep that in mind

I'll probably end up using nem though

[half zephyr]

very fun to just stand under em2 lernie

[ancient crystal]

Just since I'm so familiar with it

[half zephyr]

not touching the lava

[ancient crystal]

Sounds op

[half zephyr]

well, I got to go now

stuff to do things to see

bbai~

[ancient crystal]

Good meeting you!

[woeful robin]

Hello, I come from the hades speedrunning discord and have been organizing a sort of bingo game for the game as a whole and was curious if anyone here would be curious about trying it out.

[ancient crystal]

Sounds interesting

I may be interested

That sounded very redundant haha

Oh btw, Odds says hi :)

[robust swan]

It does sound interesting

[dusky wedge]

Charged Skewer makes spear special faster? Saw it on Haelian’s guide. Is this true? Or is it patched or something?

[simple tulip]

guys what is the land after cerberus? the labyrinth?

or is temple of styx the last area

[dusky wedge]

It’s the last area, before final boss

[simple tulip]

ight good to know

idk how an area could get harder than temple of styx anyways

[hollow hawk]

no, after cerbrus is final boss

[simple tulip]

yeah ofc

[hollow hawk]

i misunderstood what nero said, mb

[potent anvil]

Got a question
i finally unlocked the summons but like even if i have the summon charges there are times i cannot summon them in certain places for some reason

what determines wether i can summon or not

can i not summon in boss room perhaps?

[half zephyr]

Can’t summon against themselves I think

So can’t summon Than when you’re competing against Than

And can’t summon Meg if you’re fighting Meg

[potent anvil]

i got megaera and i couldn't summon her against electo and Hades

[half zephyr]

As for Hades, you just haven’t got permission yet

Guess you can’t pit the sisters against each other then

I don’t use Battie so I don’t know much about her

[potent anvil]

Ah that would explain it

[half zephyr]

Remember that they all work for Hades

They might be scared of getting fired or smth

[hollow hawk]

@potent anvil there are some companions that can be used against hades

[potent anvil]

Battie is the first summon i got so i am atm using it
that would make sense XD that's pretty interesting though

[hollow hawk]

namely, ||sisyphus'|| and ||dusa's||

dont click those if you dont want to get spoiled on the other companions

[half zephyr]

Unless you’re at that part of ||dusas|| story

[potent anvil]

Only got 36 hours in the game so i am still a baby relatively, just finished the story
but i appreciate the feedback
i asked here instead of new player chat cause i thought this was a bit further than absolute beginning
You get dusas story from gifting her right?

[hollow hawk]

yep

[half zephyr]

New player chat is typically up to 10 clears or so

Some migrate over after the 1st clear

[unborn remnant]

good morning

[grand shale]

apparently you can find thanatos even if you havent taken damage in a run

Than showed up in Haelians no hit run

[hollow hawk]

yeah..?

than doesnt depend on you having taken dmg

thats only the condition for the first time that you meet him

not after that

[grand shale]

oh

interesting

[half zephyr]

I remember when I had full hp, went into a room & then Than appeared & was all “Looks like you could use a little help”

Like

Do you have eyes Than?

[potent anvil]

he just wanted to get your attention

[half zephyr]

But we was already dating

He won’t even show up at the house after I made his corner all pretty for him

So sad

[unborn remnant]

whats up @half zephyr? :)

[half zephyr]

Car ride

Plotting my next runs while I sit in the car

Got sword again so it’ll be another Arthur run

[unborn remnant]

very cool

poseidon sword is also good

[half zephyr]

I haven’t tried

And I like leaving the stone in my victims

So it doesn’t really fit my playstyle

I’ve fallen for Arthur though

Much fun being able to stand on lava

[grand shale]

bruh it feels like arthur is just the best aspect in the game

I find it hard to lose a run with it

[runic sparrow]

random question: what's your favorite track in Hades?

[grand shale]

hmmm

charon boss fight theme

[potent anvil]

Euridyce song good riddance

[grand shale]

mm good one good one

ive heard hades phase 3 theme is popping but i dont want to spoil that so ive never actually heard ot

[runic sparrow]

I'm quite fond of "The Bloodless"(Barge of Death)

[grand shale]

oooo yeahh

[cerulean ferry]

Definitely "In the blood"

[grand shale]

i never have time to enjoy it because of how annoying the barge is tho

especially with middle management on

[unborn remnant]

In the Blood for sure

[pine copper]

yeah in the blood goes crazy

[half zephyr]

In The Blood

And Good Riddance duet

[half zephyr]

You can find the soundtrack on yt

[grand shale]

yeah

ik

[half zephyr]

Not sure if all versions of themes will be there tho

[grand shale]

wait but then why do they sell the soundtrack then??

[half zephyr]

Cuz people wanna buy it?

Some wanna own it so they can play songs individually, some so they can bring it around with them

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grand shale]

yeah but there isnt much stopping you from downloading it off youtube. just sayin

please dont kill me supergiant

[half zephyr]

I already got the soundtrack on cd 😗

I wanted a physical edition

[runic sparrow]

honestly, people ARE going to buy your stuff if your game is amazing

and everything about Hades is worth buying

[runic sparrow]

...

just got the aspect of lucifer

[grand shale]

oo it gud

[manic moat]

isn't the soundtrack available for free on spotify lol

[grand shale]

i dont use the special on it enough is the problem

[manic moat]

I dont understand why people pay for music

[runic sparrow]

to support artists they enjoy the work of

same reason you pay for anything

[uncut ore]

damn

zag offers asterius nectar or ambrosia

and asterius is complementing him about how he won the ambrosia fair and square

wow asterius is a such a nice bull

honestly theseus is a bad influence on him

[south yarrow]

Asterius is such a bro haha

[half zephyr]

Cuz we wanna support the artists??
They deserve some cred too

[cold bone]

hello, i have a quick question about the achievements.
i have hades connected on switch and steam. i know some achievements have to be redone once you link your accounts (like clearing one escape attempt unlocked the next time i started it on steam), but i have definitely done "to charon's credit" and "death dealer" yesterday on my switch, but it doesn't unlock on steam when i open it. do i have to do these specifically on the steam version?

[uncut ore]

yo

I have 4 dds

and am entering styx

and tons of moneys

[balmy grove]

dragon dagger (special)?

[uncut ore]

guys

wtf

I purged dio's boon that does the cast explosion

and now my dio-dmeter duo doesnt work

why didnt it tell me that that was going to happen?

I still have the duo it just does nothing now

what BS

[brazen lagoon]

Well what did you think was gonna happen einstein

[uncut ore]

that I will be able to use my duo...

I mean

the fact that it had to have that boon to apear

[brazen lagoon]

The duo requires your dio cast

If you do not have it how are you going to be able to use it

[uncut ore]

it sholud atleast have a warning

[brazen lagoon]

Think before you sell things then

Don't blame everything on the game

[uncut ore]

??? I had no way of knowing that would happen

of course now I wont make that mistake but still

[brazen lagoon]

Did you even read what the duo did

[uncut ore]

I could actually lose to hades just because of that

[brisk trail]

I just wanna know is there ||an extra ending/multiple endings? Without it being spoiled||

[uncut ore]

yeah

it inflicts chill where my cast goes

[brazen lagoon]

If you sell your cast do you think it will still work

[brisk trail]

||like if i expect a "real" ending from more escapes past the first 10 will i be disappointed?||

[uncut ore]

"Your Cast blasts an area with freezing Festive Fog that inflicts Chill."

I still have a cast???

[brazen lagoon]

See now if you get rid of the festive fog there will be no festive fog to inflict chill with

Your normal cast is not festive fog

[uncut ore]

why does it blast an area with freezing Festive Fog that inflicts Chill?

[brisk trail]

||I assume if there is an alternate ending or w/e it has to do with befriending all the Olympians||

[brazen lagoon]

Your dio cast is

The dio cast says 'your cast inflicts festive fog'

If you get rid of the cast that does the festive fog, do you really think that the duo requiring festive fog to even function would work

[uncut ore]

dude ok I get it

I wont make that mistake in the future

but you gotta admit a warning is in place

[brazen lagoon]

I don't really think a warning is needed

Just think before you do stuff lol

[brazen lagoon]

There is an epilogue yeah

[hushed pumice]

Same happens for Scintillating Feast

[brisk trail]

Nicey

[uncut ore]

HADES IS DOWN TO LIKE QUARTER HP

I GOT 3DDS LEFT

POG

...

really?

thats not funny

[brisk trail]

I mean i never risked removing/selling a boon that was part of a duo boon cause I assumed that would break it

[uncut ore]

also why am I so slow?

[dusky wedge]

I assume it’s to encourage players to try something else

It’s fine I think

Making mistakes is like, part of the design, where you make do with what you have

Which is the spirit of roguelikes

[brisk trail]

I didnt even ask a question like wat lol

I had considered selling a boon that was part of a duo boon but i had a bad feeling it would break the duo boon like all I'm saying is it doesn't surprise me

Im not shaming

[south yarrow]

Does higher heat increase the chance of rarer boons?

[runic parrot]

nope

[south yarrow]

Guess im just unlucky then haha

[viscid quail]

There is more than the super unsatisfying thing you get after getting your first win

[brisk trail]

I mean I got the credits

I just didnt want get my hopes up there was more to it like if i get all the friendships to max and there isn't another "real" ending id be kinda bummed

I shouldn't have asked tho

[uncut ore]

how many choros you got?

alot

how many problems you got?

alot

how many dds you got?

like 3

[grand shale]

bobux

[grand shale]

unsatisfying?????

[uncut ore]

https://imgur.com/a/NOjzRTu

1 sec ima make this

wait why cant I give ambrosia to artemis?

I gave her 6 nectar

[hollow kettle]

like ||when zagreus sees persephone but then dies and gets dragged back down by the styx||

[uncut ore]

its not "unsatisfying"

[hollow kettle]

I mean it's really freaking sad

[uncut ore]

the real unsatisfying part is that he MOVES SO SLOW DURING THE CUTSCENE

[hollow kettle]

I cried at that part

[grand shale]

how is that unsatisfying??? It leaves you yearning for more story, for more visits to her, which is what zag feels like. Thats effective storytelling, not unsatisfying

[uncut ore]

wtf bouldy is an actual ingame charachter?

I was sure he was just a joke

[grand shale]

yeah

you gotta give sysiphus nectar a couple times to be able to talk to bouldy

[hollow kettle]

I mean it's just that it would be an unsatisfying ending if that was where the game ended

[grand shale]

and bouldy offers boons

[grand shale]

but thats not where it ends

[hollow kettle]

I know lmao

[grand shale]

so whats ur point

[hollow kettle]

they were reassuring that there was more after that point

I was just trying to explain why they referred to it as unsatisfying idk

[grand shale]

I thought it was obvious that that wouldnt be the end of the game

[hollow kettle]

man idk

[grand shale]

lel

[grand shale]

i was moreso in hysteric celebration

it took me 44 unsuccessful runs to get my first clear

wait no it was 45

yeah

[craggy barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/814900017700798534/unknown.png

this is so funny

[wise sparrow]

lmfao

[hushed pumice]

Wait til you see EM4

Now that's comedy

[craggy barn]

🙈 🙉

[dusky wedge]

Does Winter Harvest (Demeter legendary boon, shatter chilled enemies at 10% hp) works on biome bosses as well?

And just so I get this right, what does “shatter” actually mean here? Instantly killed?

[uncut ore]

I won at the end

[brisk trail]

So the security log doesnt tell u how many times you died?

I had to have died like 6 times but wanted to see exact lol i only escaped cause i had stubborn roots tbh

[uncut ore]

wait

what undiscovered other of note do I have?

[craggy barn]

🙈

[craggy barn]

it does, and you'll definitely wanna see what it's like when that happens

[dusky wedge]

Without spoiling the story, it’s someone you’ll meet later in the story after sufficient amount of escapes

[green dune]

It works on the final boss at 10%

[craggy barn]

winter harvest actually has a super cool effect when it kills bosses

[green dune]

it's a really good boon

[dusky wedge]

alright then

[dusky wedge]

This one, I wish they tell tbh

[final trellis]

has anyone ever beat a run at heat 51?

@grand shale it took me like 53 runs to beat the game maybe I'm mad idk

[craggy barn]

a couple of people casually do 40-50 heat lol

[brazen lagoon]

Highest heat done is 60

[craggy barn]

though 51+ heat is definitely not an easy feat

[brazen lagoon]

Tail has yet to do 61 heat yet

Chop chop Mr tail /j

[craggy barn]

tail's the only person to have beaten 60 heat

i gotta start playing with forced overtime if i wanna do 40 heat anytime soon

[half zephyr]

Don’t get your hopes up too high, but there is an epilogue

[hollow kettle]

hang on

you guys know how on twitter they said Hermes' turtle's name is Chelly

[half zephyr]

No

Hard to when you don’t have Twitter

[hollow kettle]

I was thinking about headcanon designs for Narcissus and Echo as Hades NPCs, so I was looking on Echo's wikipedia page and that led me to "List of Oreads" (mountain nymphs) and I saw this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/812514102815227964/814911324651913266/unknown.png

[half zephyr]

So not a turtle then

[uncut ore]

wtf

zag just gave hades basically a list of grievances

and hades called them all "baseless accusations"

they are literal truths

hades admitted to most of them

???????

damn hes a douche

[hollow kettle]

Hades is the real god of trash

[uncut ore]

yeah

[half zephyr]

Hades has his reasons

And he’s veeeeery bad at the whole emotions thing

He’s also trying to keep stuff hidden, all the while keeping things hidden is tearing him apart inside

[uncut ore]

what do you think is the easiest heat?

I was using hard labor but jury summons seams easier

[half zephyr]

Uhm

The time one for sure on rank 1

And benefits package

Middle management

Extreme measures

I didn’t find lasting consequences 1 that hard, but I had good runs whenever I tried that one so

The price one - +40% price in shops

The one that gives the blue hearts

Even the one that gives uhm.. is it 15% more health to enemies is pretty easy

It all depends on what you combine things with ofc

And I’m pretty new to heats myself

[craggy barn]

calisthenics program and jury summons are definitely not good with tight deadline

[robust swan]

I enjoy the +20% enemies one for heat 1 it doesn't make all that much of a difference

[green dune]

I for some reason have extreme trouble with tight deadline, always barely pass with time left on the clock

[grand shale]

ha

lel

[grand shale]

never tried it. How annoying is it

[half zephyr]

I normally manage right deadline without having it on

I just dash dash dash

[half zephyr]

You have 9 minutes or area

[grand shale]

yeah ik but like

how annoying is it

[half zephyr]

If you have time left it rolls over

If you go over time you take.. I think it’s 5 dmg pr second?

[grand shale]

SHIIIIIIETTT

[terse relic]

Five damage every 2 seconds.

[half zephyr]

Thank you

I’ve never gone over the time given so I didn’t know for sure

[robust swan]

I gotta do some gem grinding

[hollow kettle]

Achilles and Patroclus react if you try to use Antos right in front of them in their room XD

[runic sparrow]

so who's seen that 'no damage' run of the game?

[craggy barn]

i haven't actually watched it yet but i have seen it on youtube

[restive cave]

how do i know when i should be prioritizing base dmg or % damage

[brisk trail]

the one where amir calls the streamer? xD

[runic sparrow]

does he?

I haven't seen it all