whats that?
#h1-discussion
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austere jacinth
The main character in a very successful video game franchise. I think Tom Holland is gonna play him in the movie.
Grats, Redst!
marsh rivet
Prototypical white male dark hair scruffy snarky protagonist who's rough around the edges with a checkered past but with a heart of gold.
dusk hull
thanks to whoever made the guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
hollow hawk
wow idk who he looks like
every other white male!
also tom holland is playing nathan?
i have.. mixed feelings about that
uncut ore
every other white male!
yeah he seems insnaely generic
marsh rivet
I mean i think Nathan Drake is gorgeous but lol his character is pretty cringe vanilla male power fantasy.
austere jacinth
I think he's playing a younger version or something.
hollow hawk
oh, then its fine
manic moat
man forget everything else we getting spider man 3 this year
marsh rivet
I like Zagreus. The wholesomeness, openness and emotional maturity and willingness to discuss feel novel.
For an action game especially
austere jacinth
The humility!
uncut ore
man forget everything else we getting spider man 3 this year
wait didnt spiderman 3 already release?
like in 2009?
manic moat
spider man no way home
uncut ore
no way home?
manic moat
is releasing this year
uncut ore
pretty bad name rbh
marsh rivet
wait didnt spiderman 3 already release?
Honestly who knows. By 2030 there will be 5 different Spiderman 3s
austere jacinth
Eh, tbh, I don't really care for movie Peter.
uncut ore
homecoming as a name made sense
manic moat
yea they could have had a better name
uncut ore
far from home as a name was fine
no way home?
honestly this is the month of bad names
eu4 leviathan
manic moat
I mean it makes sense but it just doesn't catch on
austere jacinth
It doesn't really matter what they call it, people will watch.
manic moat
that's true
austere jacinth
Heck, I'm ambivalent about most of the MCU and I'll probably end up seeing it as a chill out movie with family or friends some time. xD
hollow hawk
spiderman movie names are honestly so infamous at this point that i feel like the directors are just doing it for the marketing value
but anyway, this is off topic
marsh rivet
So right, about Uncharted.
austere jacinth
How to fix? Hmm. I like Zagreus more than Spiderman.
marsh rivet
austere jacinth
On topic again!
marsh rivet
Fixed!
austere jacinth
Well, it's true. xDD After Peter sold his marriage to the devil, he was never the same for me.
uncut ore
Heck, I'm ambivalent about most of the MCU and I'll probably end up seeing it as...
yeah I mean'
even tho im not a massive marvel fan I end up watching every new movie
half zephyr
Or maybe #tv-and-movies
austere jacinth
Yeah, probably. Today I'm getting a Switch. I shall play Hades through... again. And fall in love with Zag all over again. Woot.
half zephyr
Woo
uncut ore
I dont understand why people care so much about really minor things like that? someone made a minor comment about a new movie and now we're already back on topic. Of course if people start mixing up channels it would be a bit confusing, but I dont think theres any harm in something like that
half zephyr
I dont understand why people care so much about really minor things like that? s...
It’s in the rules
uncut ore
Yeah, probably. Today I'm getting a Switch. I shall play Hades through... again....
its like 4 years into the console cycle
half zephyr
Simple as that
uncut ore
not sure if that was a smart investment, there probably gonna be a new nintendo console by 2023
half zephyr
Anyways, I was gonna ask a hades related question
austere jacinth
Yeah, I bought my mother a switch a while back and she wants to play with me.
half zephyr
Which boon would you recommend to get on attack for Guan Yu
uncut ore
Yeah, I bought my mother a switch a while back and she wants to play with me.
thats really sweet
uncut ore
Which boon would you recommend to get on attack for Guan Yu
who is guan yu?
austere jacinth
I rarely buy new consoles at launch. I need a back catalogue of games. Launch titles tend to be meh.
half zephyr
You’re too new
uncut ore
this is greek myth not confucian myth
half zephyr
It’s hades
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bruh
half zephyr
You’re just too green 
half zephyr
You’ll find out
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hes literally standing next to one
sure its the sweetest and kindest monster in the world
but still
austere jacinth
who is guan yu?
Guan Yu is a Three Kingdoms figure. A Chinese legend.
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Guan Yu is a Three Kingdoms figure. A Chinese legend.
yeah but I meant is he in hades?
half zephyr
I didn’t have a fun Guan Yu run first time I tried - barely survived w 25Hp
austere jacinth
Not really, though he's referenced.
half zephyr
So I wanna try with new attack boon & such
austere jacinth
Also, Zagreus kind of is a monster in a way. He's not human. Then again, Theseus isn't fully human either.
half zephyr
I had Zeus last run 
uncut ore
damn that dude theseus got a heairline as receding as athen's power projection ability
unborn remnant
hello hades gamers
half zephyr
Hey lyte
uncut ore
hello hades gamers
hello
half zephyr
What boon would you recommend for attack on Guan Yu
unborn remnant
We good?
austere jacinth
Theseus has lovely hair in the artwork you can put up in the House.
half zephyr
Zeus didn’t work out well for me
uncut ore
Theseus has lovely hair in the artwork you can put up in the House.
?
oh you mean the house rennovations?
theyre so expensive I can barely afford the ones that actually do something
you got so much cash lying around you can afford decor?
half zephyr
Ye
Just do collection runs
Easy 0 heat runs where you just collect gems & darkness
unborn remnant
resource runs yeah
half zephyr
Or low heat runs
austere jacinth
I wish I could decorate the house even more. And see the bedrooms of other characters beyond Zag and Hades.
uncut ore
asterius just complimented my fighting technique as I was fighting him
half zephyr
That’s cuz Asterius notices others unlike Theseus who only sees himself
austere jacinth
Theseus notices Asterius.
half zephyr
And the cheering crowd
austere jacinth
And the crowd, yes
half zephyr
Theseus notices Asterius.
Barely
half zephyr
Very insecure
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That’s cuz Asterius notices others unlike Theseus who only sees himself
yeah hes so respectful
half zephyr
He saved him from a hell he put him into
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yeah but I think theseus is a bad influence on asterius
he gotta fight the ummayads what is he doing in elysium?
brazen lagoon
He saved him from a hell he put him into <:hehe:744708898656878692>
Well it was either that or theseus just straight up dying
Can you really blame the guy
austere jacinth
He saved him from a hell he put him into <:hehe:744708898656878692>
tbf, Asterius was eating people. Mostly kids.
half zephyr
Such is the life of myths
uncut ore
tbf, Asterius was eating people. Mostly kids.
wait what
brazen lagoon
Yeah asterius was also not the best person/man bull thing
brazen lagoon
But tbh the only people to blame here are the gods
brazen lagoon
They caused that whole fiasco
austere jacinth
The minotaur was a flesh-eater. Every now and then his step-daddy sent a bunch of kids into a labyrinth for him to nom. Theseus was one of those kids.
half zephyr
Gods are the roots of all the problems
austere jacinth
Actually, it's the King's fault this time.
half zephyr
Well, it’s the gods for Asterius being born, no?
brazen lagoon
Poseidon cursed minos' wife to fall in love with a bull
austere jacinth
The King was supposed to sacrifice a bull to Poseidon, but he decided not to. Then Poseidon made the bull so hot that the King's wife asked Daedalus to make her a wooden fursuit so she'd be appealing to the bull.
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munch
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The King was supposed to sacrifice a bull to Poseidon, but he decided not to. Th...
lmao what
half zephyr
So it’s all chill uncle Poseidon’s fault then
brazen lagoon
Just blame the gods it's easier that way
I mean they are the root of most problems in Greek myth anyways so what's another one
austere jacinth
I mean, if you promise Poseidon you'll do the sacrifice... don't go back on that.
half zephyr
There’s simple rules in life
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ok im at the styx
half zephyr
Don’t try to make sense of the myths & always blame the gods
half zephyr
But never to their faces
austere jacinth
Like, if you try to screw over the gods, it rarely goes well. Look at Sisyphus. xD
half zephyr
Like, if you try to screw over the gods, it rarely goes well. Look at Sisyphus. ...
I’ll never forgive what he did to Than
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for 1200 choros
half zephyr
Obols
half zephyr
He chained down Thanatos so no one could die
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hes such a lovely guy he deserves the comfiest spot in elysium
austere jacinth
Sisyphus was to be collected by death, but he tricked Thanatos and had him locked in his own deathly chains, where he languished until Ares freed him.
half zephyr
But couldn’t die
brazen lagoon
People were running around with their heads chopped off
austere jacinth
Sisyphus also lied to Persephone.
brazen lagoon
Could not die
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People were running around with their heads chopped off
oh ok
uncut ore
Sisyphus also lied to Persephone.
what did he tell her?
brazen lagoon
Sisyphus was def not a nice person when he was alive
uncut ore
thats like judging a guy by 12 year old tweets
half zephyr
But more serious offense then tweeting
austere jacinth
Basically, Sisyphus told his wife to toss his corpse into the streets. When he was finally brought to Persephone (after the Than-Ares fiasco), he pleaded with her to 'go up and sort out proper burial rites'. She allows this... and he just... didn't come back.
half zephyr
EXACTLY
uncut ore
I got exactly 1200 choros, do I buy titan blood or boons?
half zephyr
that’s why he’s being punished
uncut ore
I think I should get boons
hushed pumice
They're obols 🧐
uncut ore
titan blood is pretty overrate atleast at my level
austere jacinth
He did it like three times. He did learn though. I like his character in Hades. But I do understand why Than and Meg are so harsh to him, and try to keep him from 'influencing' Zag.
half zephyr
He’s been told many many times
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its like +3% dps or smthn
half zephyr
He refuses to call them obols
uncut ore
He refuses to call them obols
yeah
half zephyr
its like +3% dps or smthn
That depends on the weapon & aspect
half zephyr
Up to you
uncut ore
ill take boons
lost citrus
depends on what your build is
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wait I have no way of getting more dds now right?
im all out
||ill probably die to hades||
half zephyr
Athena
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well I will with that attitude
uncut ore
wait what?
you cant do the satyr tunnels after you give cerby his snack?
what a shame
im absolutely not ready
yolo
half zephyr
half zephyr
It’s a thing he does so you don’t have to skip his dialogue if you’re not interested in seeing it
uncut ore
apparently every time you enter a room it saves
hollow hawk
is there any way to save the game?
nope
auto save all the way baby
it saves everytime you enter a room, and after you accept a boon from a god
or have a story-line related dialogue with any npc during a run
grand shale
I got exactly 1200 choros, do I buy titan blood or boons?
choros??
half zephyr
He means obols
grand shale
hm
half zephyr
He refuses to call them obols
grand shale
I just call em bobux
half zephyr
Even though obols were an ACTUAL ANCIENT GREEK COIN
half zephyr
And that’s their name in the game
grand shale
bobux
half zephyr
I don’t get it
uncut ore
I just call em bobux
acceptable
grand shale
bobux.
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bobux
half zephyr
grand shale
charons bobux
grand shale
smackeroonies
hollow hawk
morcrux just calls everything by a madeup name
grand shale
doubloons
hollow hawk
he called titan blood "blood juice"
half zephyr
They’re the coins paid by the dead to gain entry to the underworld 
grand shale
charon has the biggest bobux stash of all in the underworld
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.
grand shale
if you ||lose an erebus challenge||
uncut ore
whos erebus?
uncut ore
ah ok its post endboss
grand shale
oh word?
well ill just not reveal too much but recieving an onion restores 2 hp
thats it
grand shale
what
cerulean ferry
H-how
grand shale
i have to check this
half zephyr
You should play the game & learn this stuff yourself
grand shale
I guess safesearch affects the results cuz i got all sfw stuff
grand shale
ye
uncut ore
I guess safesearch affects the results cuz i got all sfw stuff
yeah like I installed that specifically not to get those sorts of reuslts
uncut ore
I signed out of my account and cleared the cache and entered from a different browse
and its still there
half zephyr
Idk what’s wrong with your pc
Google infernal gate hades wiki instead
If you really need to read
Why do you image search
Why
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Why do you image search
wdym
grand shale
i figured
uncut ore
you get a preview of images even when you go on all
grand shale
hmm
half zephyr
Not always
grand shale
brazen lagoon
Nice
half zephyr
Chamber 12
Not gonna choose it tho
I’m on Arthur so I won’t need it
3:35:06
That’s my fastest time getting to it so far though
brazen lagoon
Still pretty fast
solar scarab
FACT:
rotund galleon
What is the percentage of a chaos fish appearing
gaunt tapir
isnt it the exact same as a normal chamber
wild island
skelly gift is my fav, it jusy gives you a strong death defiance
sonic acorn
so after completing that one run
then what is there to do after it
im ok with spoilers if thats what it takes for me to understand what to do next
half zephyr
im ok with spoilers if thats what it takes for me to understand what to do next
Just keep doing runs
This is still a spoiler heavy channel for you if you’ve only defeated Hades 1 time
sonic acorn
its aight
half zephyr
You should come back later after you do it a few more times if you want to avoid story spoilers
sonic acorn
im not too active aside from asking some questions
oh o
ok
how many approx
30 or 40?
sonic acorn
its ok and thanks
half zephyr
Fun Arthur run
wild island
Why do feel the need to make their name ! just to be at the top of the list?
crude pasture
signal aspen
im at Eurydice
when youre at eurydice you should check the amount of boons you have, if you have 4 or less you should pick rarity, if you have more you should pick poms
also i think rarity scales harder
depending on what level your boons are at
wild island
hey guys, what scales harder, Rarity or Poms?
i somehow never get poms when i need them
dusky wedge
These days, I almost never get poms, not even on the chamber doors. Is that good or am I doing it wrong?
I mean, I purposefully avoid poms
Most of the time, I only use Pom Blossom full run
signal aspen
These days, I almost never get poms, not even on the chamber doors. Is that good...
there is a mirror upgrade for that
dusky wedge
there is a mirror upgrade for that
Dark Foresight? Isn’t that increase poms chance to appear as well?
half zephyr
Ye, stick to the other if you don’t want them
grand crystal
its the chance for golden laurel reward rooms to appear, so poms, obols, boons, hearts
dusky wedge
Well, I get the idea, but I also want more Boons instead of the better rarity, but I also almost never chose a pom door anymore these days
Idk if I’m just thinking about this the wrong way or if it’s actually fine
half zephyr
Then just don’t choose the Pom door
grand crystal
yea id just take dark forsight and yea, poms sometimes arent that exciting
half zephyr
It’s as easy as that
grand crystal
i only ever take poms when its agains a money door
half zephyr
I take them if I need high level for a build
grand crystal
since i value hearts and boons more
signal aspen
you should use the purple option of the last mirror upgrade
half zephyr
Fated Authority
grand crystal
but it all depends on how you play so :3
dusky wedge
I take them if I need high level for a build
Like what? From what I see, these poms worth less the more you have on a boon?
grand crystal
yea but getting the like +30 for the first few levels is always nice
half zephyr
Like what? From what I see, these poms worth less the more you have on a boon?
Like high level Aphrodite cast on Hera
grand crystal
they mostly fall off around 3rd level
signal aspen
Or Zeus special on Zeus shield
i got a level 15 zeus special on zeus shield for my build
half zephyr
It depends on the build
dusky wedge
I see
signal aspen
or you can just purge all your boons and run with shattered shackle
grand crystal
the highest level ive gotten was a lvl 8 posiedon special
dusky wedge
I don’t think I ever got something to lvl10 ever
grand crystal
or you can just purge all your boons and run with shattered shackle
lol yea
half zephyr
I think I’ll try a straight Pom blossom run one day
hollow hawk
poms are quite important early on id say
in like elysium, their value falls off drastically
half zephyr
1 random upgrade every 4 encounters
hollow hawk
since most of your boons would be lvl2-3 already
modest bolt
@signal aspen ok ty for the help!
signal aspen
i usually run a god keepsake for a guaranteed boon from the god i want
modest bolt
i usually get the poms
half zephyr
I tend to get them up to level 4-5 on accident
signal aspen
and then i would just switch to pom blossom
half zephyr
Cuz of the mini poms
And when I’m in Styx I just like to buy everything I can afford
modest bolt
does Demeter seem strong to anyone?
i only like her special and nourish soul abilities
grand crystal
she gives off the same vibe as zeus but just not as good tbh
like chill is decent but just eh
gritty portal
You'll eventually get an upgrade for the codex that lets you see what you need for certain boons.
signal aspen
i only like her special and nourish soul abilities
nourished soul and rare crop are probably the only good boons from her
signal aspen
i just need his RIP TIDE
i think thats the one where you need his call to get it
modest bolt
yeah i have the codex
after 6 boons with him, i couldnt get the damn rip tide to show up, but i got his aid lol
sigh ill do another run
gritty portal
Just do more runs is usually the answer to most questions.
jagged trellis
So do you have to beat the game to use Titian blood?
wind oar
You need all weapons
half zephyr
also, this is spoiler heavy channel
head to #h1-for-new-players for spoiler free zone
wind oar
Yeah you deserve to experience the game spoiler free
jagged trellis
You need all weapons
Oh, shouldn’t have used all those keys on the mirror
wind oar
Doesn't matter
half zephyr
you'll get more
wind oar
Yeah
craggy barn
i like how early on the ranking for weapons and aspects is like "pick what you vibe with" but later on with inhumanely high heats rama is like the only viable option at that point
craggy barn
like it's actually so good at handling some of the conditions that are considered the worst
jury summons, damage control, etc
unborn remnant
Why arent the other ones viable?
craggy barn
some conditions boil down to "can i do this?" while others are "can this weapon do this?"
rama can handle dc2 very well because it very easily strips away hearts with special while arthur is slow and chunky
it can't deal with dc hearts anywhere close to as well as rama
and certain aspects also suffer a lot with certain aspects
cast aspects like beowulf, poseidon etc are basically rendered extremely weak due to ap2 and a major dependence on getting a bunch of certain boons and pom scaling
dire delta
so when all your boon slots get filled and you come across more boons, do they replace a random boon in the box?
cuz I dont get a notification that they do
half zephyr
You just get more boon slots 😗
halcyon oriole
the short answer is that Damage Control is a weird condition
bronze bramble
so when all your boon slots get filled and you come across more boons, do they r...
some boons replace existing ones and u'll get the notification, other wise as shadow said you get more boon slots
halcyon oriole
it's extra health but in terms of hits, not in terms of... health
so weapons that land a good solid first hit? that's just wasted
whereas a weapon that starts off by plinking a few weak hits will do great
bronze bramble
he's angry at Zagreus, calling him lernie and what not
that was one of the moments of "Wow, this game is great", when they changed the name on his life bar to Lernie
restive cave
what boon is best for boosting the aspect of hestia
steel pelican
so i just beat my first run
and i had no right to, considering i blew through my death defiants before getting to Elysium
stubborn roots really carried me in the second half of the run
wise sparrow
what boon is best for boosting the aspect of hestia
art atk
uncut ore
wait, how often do I get a duo?
assuming I have all the requierments
I wanna try and tryhard some specfic build now
like try to synergize things and think about status effects and duo boons
just generally planning ahead
uncut ore
oh the dice thingy
dont have that unlocked yet
but like
when you get duos
you get them in boons?
half zephyr
so i just beat my first run
congrats! this channel will still be pretty spoiler heavy story wise though, so stay here at your own risk!
half zephyr
you get them in boons?
yes
uncut ore
ok
half zephyr
it's a duo boon
uncut ore
so i just beat my first run
go to #h1-for-new-players I should be there too
steel pelican
alright sorry
runic sparrow
Lightning Rod is an interesting boon
half zephyr
if you have the codex boon list unlocked you can look up the gods & see all the boons they can give you - including duo boons & legendaries - and see if they have any prerequisites
runic sparrow
makes you use your casts differently
half zephyr
and it'll show you mid-run if you already have one of the prereqs by making it appear with green text instead of white
uncut ore
if you have the codex boon list unlocked you can look up the gods & see all the ...
yeah
im trying to get the athena-ares one
happy ending or whatever
half zephyr
merciful end
halcyon oriole
happy ending sounds more like aphrodite tbh
uncut ore
yeah merciful end
halcyon oriole
my least favorite duo boon is the one that turn's Poseidon's cast into three pulses centered on you
half zephyr
happy ending sounds more like aphrodite tbh
aphy-dio duo
craggy barn
alternate reality where all boon names are just really silly for no reason
half zephyr
my least favorite duo boon is the one that turn's Poseidon's cast into three pul...
I found that it was really good when I ran stygian on some build or other
half zephyr
I can't remember which weapon 
halcyon oriole
yeah it's probably good for some things, but whenever I've gotten it I didn't want it
half zephyr
halcyon oriole
maybe if I'm punching stuff, but even then I usually like having a ranged option
craggy barn
it's like flood flare but overpriced... and a bit crappy
halcyon oriole
if you're not up close and personal all the time then you don't want it, but if you are, then you probably want a ranged option to balance that out, and you don't have that anymore
half zephyr
I think my least fave duo boons are the ones that always give epic boons & pom upgrade..
when I get them in styx
I admit the pom upgrade might still be a little helpful, but by that time I've just about gotten all the boons I can so it's just a waste for the epic one
but that's only for late run duo
I don't know what other duo boon I might dislike
craggy barn
sweet nectar and exclusive access in tart are amazing
halcyon oriole
or uh. Heavy Drinker? The one that improves fountains
half zephyr
not if you've done all the chambers
halcyon oriole
when you're going to get a total of 0 or 1 more fountain
halcyon oriole
yes
modest bolt
i love Zag response when he drinks that digusting fountain lol
half zephyr
I'm talking me always seeming to get it as an option from the last boon at the store
craggy barn
strong drink can range from "good" to "meh" depending not only on when you get it but on your skill as a player i suppose
like you might really need strong drink in styx after taking a lot of poison damage or something
craggy barn
strong drink on high heat is 🤮
half zephyr
ye?
uncut ore
that makes me lose hp whenever I attack
half zephyr
you can't use attack without being hurt
half zephyr
he doesn't attack you
uncut ore
can I rip apart the spacetime continuum?
craggy barn
that's something to think about though
half zephyr
he cursed you, yes, but only cuz you asked for it
uncut ore
he doesn't attack you
oh stfu you and your "logic"
half zephyr
he gives you options even
uncut ore
absolute cringe
craggy barn
not really a "curse" considering you get a really nice reward
bronze bramble
that should come in the nex patch
uncut ore
not really a "curse" considering you get a really nice reward
yeah
half zephyr
more like a blessing in disguise then
uncut ore
more like a blessing in disguise then
it isnt really in disguise
its kind of in the name
"boon"
half zephyr
it's called a curse
craggy barn
ranging from the elusive +1 cast to more gold to a free dd slot that can be restored
half zephyr
it hurts you, that's the curse part
half zephyr
I discovered that I can take any chaos boon I want with Arthur
uncut ore
whos arthur
half zephyr
attack with just special? OP
attack with just attack? OP
I've fallen in love with Arthur
esp since I tend to get attack speed boost at some point so it's just like normal attacks
bronze bramble
who's arthur?
craggy barn
if i can beat lernie on while taking damage each time i attack with attacking being my main source of damage while having only an sd to save me from certain death while taking 2x damage while having no source of healing outside of my sd whatsoever then certainly you can do it 😃 👍
bronze bramble
another character renamed by zag?
craggy barn
though that may just be the ridiculous skill gap
half zephyr
another character renamed by zag?
no
uncut ore
if i can beat lernie on while taking damage each time i attack with attacking be...
what
half zephyr
if you don't know then it's a spoiler for you I guess
craggy barn
arthur is a name you don't see until later on and trust me you don't wanna find out about it prematurely
bronze bramble
if i can beat lernie on while taking damage each time i attack with attacking be...
had to read it 3 times to understand it
uncut ore
of course I CAN win but it will be long and it will cost me my dds
half zephyr
you can get dd back
bronze bramble
if you don't know then it's a spoiler for you I guess <:hehe:744708898656878692>
😦 i haven't beaten it the 10 times yet, tbh 😦
half zephyr
athena, shop, patroclus
bronze bramble
I'm a terrible gamer, but i do love the game
half zephyr
😦 i haven't beaten it the 10 times yet, tbh 😦
you should head over to #h1-for-new-players
that's the spoiler free zone
craggy barn
if you've already gotten a boon from athena she can show up later and hit you up with the dd buff + free dd
half zephyr
unless you don't mind spoilers
bronze bramble
that's the spoiler free zone
spoilers don't scare me, i thought i had spoiled already everything
half zephyr
I also love that athena has 2 dd boons
bronze bramble
now i see that my google research hasn't been complete!
half zephyr
there is much to learn about the game
craggy barn
the fact that athena can give you free dds while you're using sd is absurdly helpful
half zephyr
if you wanna spoil everything just read stuff in the story channel
craggy barn
there's a lot of things to know if you want to improve your play
half zephyr
but its fun to find out on your own too
craggy barn
of course there's also a lot of weird things that i doubt the average player will simply find out
like the whole athena dd on sd thing for example
half zephyr
I found out during my second arthur run something that older players didn't know
bronze bramble
I guess i need to spend more hours on it
uncut ore
spoilers don't scare me, i thought i had spoiled already everything
yeah same
bronze bramble
what a shame /s
uncut ore
like
half zephyr
the sigil blocks traps
half zephyr
so arthur is apparently good for HS
uncut ore
I only have outer wilds left
so im not gonna go onto any outer wilds discord or anything
dont wanna get spoiled
craggy barn
i think a lot of people know about hallowed ground disabling traps
if you set it on lava you can just step on it
uncut ore
wait what
half zephyr
that was a fun dash moment
craggy barn
oh yeah we shouldn't be directly talking about that stuff with newer players here
bronze bramble
that's amazing
half zephyr
they've been told many times this is spoiler heavy zone
bronze bramble
i really dont care about spoilers
half zephyr
they don't wanna go to the spoiler free safe heaven of goodness
bronze bramble
I honestly thought i had seen enough videos of runs on YT to know it all
you've proven me wrong
craggy barn
there's a lot of stuff to be spoiled on
bronze bramble
I shall spend more hours on it
half zephyr
I didn't even watch any let's play of Hades until I'd already gotten a few hours in
uncut ore
TIME TO PARTY
bronze bramble
CHAOS BOON IS OVER
ALELUIA
craggy barn
not even gonna mention the hidden dialogue and little stories that take place within this world
half zephyr
and then I had to pause it right away cuz she wanted to do high heats for fun
bronze bramble
I didn't even watch any let's play of Hades until I'd already gotten a few hours...
I got in the "obsessed" phase of my interess
If i'm not playing, i watching runs on yt
half zephyr
I only wanted Hades cuz of story
uncut ore
like yasso or however you write that
bronze bramble
Αλληλούια ?
uncut ore
really?
I used up skelly
IN ELYSIMU
unless I get the gay poet warrior guy in like 1 chamber im toast
craggy barn
patty can hit you up with that kiss of styx dark
half zephyr
if he feels like it
and you manage to stumble upon him
sometimes in the beginning I wondered if he was hiding from me since I didn't get his chamber on a few runs
uncut ore
can I just assume hes post-leftist?
bronze bramble
unless I get the gay poet warrior guy in like 1 chamber im toast
gay poet warrior lulz
uncut ore
honestly his entire ideology is so bad
half zephyr
how so
uncut ore
"life is meanigless because I said so so I have to sit here all day and act sad"
I mean
you literally live in elysium
brisk trail
That's incredibly reductive.
half zephyr
he wasn't meant to be in elysium
uncut ore
do something with your life
half zephyr
he doesn't fit in in elysium
bronze bramble
That's incredibly reductive.
he could do worse, that's true
uncut ore
with your death?
uncut ore
That's incredibly reductive.
I mean still
half zephyr
achilles was meant for elysium
uncut ore
achilles was meant for elysium
yeah I didnt get that at all
why is achilles in tartarus?
craggy barn
i mean he's literally separated from the one that he loves for eternity
bronze bramble
this conversation is giving me whole Song of Achilles vibes
craggy barn
can you blame the guy for being a tiny bit upset
half zephyr
because he traded his spot so patroclus could go to elysium...
brisk trail
Yes.
bronze bramble
because he traded his spot so patroclus could go to elysium...
that's true love
uncut ore
and what did patroclus do to deserve tartarus?
half zephyr
it's all story you haven't gotten to yet!
brisk trail
He wasn't going to get Tartarus, but Asphodel, I think.
half zephyr
finish up all the storylines first
bronze bramble
WE NEED TO PLAY MORE HOURS @uncut ore
winter harbor
Yep, just because the guy ended his life in a burst of glory doesn't make him a hero
uncut ore
WE NEED TO PLAY MORE HOURS <@!335329581190086658>
?
craggy barn
that's stuff you'll have to find out much, much later
runic sparrow
"In life, I left him... in death, he left me..."
winter harbor
Achilles is notable in that he angered a river spirit for throwing too many corpses in there
brisk trail
You gotta remember that Achilles was young and a super fire-headed idiot who believed in the ancient Greek ideal of Elysium.
winter harbor
also the whole being a demigod thing
half zephyr
mhmm
half zephyr
You gotta remember that Achilles was young and a super fire-headed idiot who bel...
and then patty died 
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You gotta remember that Achilles was young and a super fire-headed idiot who bel...
so he got into elysium
half zephyr
MY PATROCHILLES
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but what did petrocles do
half zephyr
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to make himi go to tartarus?
craggy barn
i bet achilles looks back at his life like millenials look at themselves when they were 14
bronze bramble
?
so that we can unblock all the story lines, sorry, trying to be funny making my point. failed in misery
craggy barn
spoilers bad
winter harbor
I don't remember exactly but I think Achilles agreed to lend him his armor under the condition that he would try to stay safe and then he died
brisk trail
Well that's the thing. He died like, at most a few days after Pat? So when he first made it to the House, he immediately said "Give up my place in Elysium."
uncut ore
so that we can unblock all the story lines, sorry, trying to be funny making my ...
ah they talk about it in the story? I see
I was about to read about itt
half zephyr
I don't remember exactly but I think Achilles agreed to lend him his armor under...
in hades patty stole his armor I think
winter harbor
Yeah, mythology isn't the most consistent
half zephyr
Hades has their own versions of the myths & stories too
half zephyr
so it doesn't always help to read the actual myths & stuff
bronze bramble
I was about to read about itt
they do ^^ , that i've seen
uncut ore
and the last ones
brisk trail
Increased boon appearance?
half zephyr
boring
uncut ore
wdym
half zephyr
I use the other side
get more boon rooms
and hammers appear more often
and money
and poms
all laurel rooms really
brisk trail
It's good, but unless you get wrecked by RNG more gold laurels is usally stronger.
half zephyr
I tend to get epic & rare without the mirror upgrade
unless I'm on bow cuz then RNG hates me
brisk trail
Lots of ways in-run to boost rarity, yeah.
brisk trail
Yarn, Eurydice, Chaos, Demeter, Exclusive Access.
half zephyr
yup
uncut ore
where I can almost consistently reach hades (this time doesnt count) but im not close to killing him
craggy barn
dark foresight is imo a lot better than favour
half zephyr
exclusive access OP in tart
uncut ore
I mean most of the time I got a pretty obvious next goal
craggy barn
rare boons usually aren't THAT much stronger than common boons
uncut ore
but now I dont really
half zephyr
where I can *almost* consistently reach hades (this time doesnt count) but im no...
do you go for hearts or boons?
attack or health
uncut ore
rare boons usually aren't THAT much stronger than common boons
but you dont wanna get stuck with all commons
uncut ore
do you go for hearts or boons?
depends
bronze bramble
Demeter's Beam is a life saver for me
craggy barn
and remember that dark foresight also gets you more gold, hearts and poms among boons
uncut ore
and remember that dark foresight also gets you more gold, hearts and poms among ...
so you saying I should go for dark foresight/?
runic sparrow
oh hey, I just got Stubborn Roots. o vo
half zephyr
neat
uncut ore
maybe you should just aim for athena legendary
how? do I just get her relic and restart 50 times?
craggy barn
and generally for newer players still struggling to get their first clear, perhaps more hearts and extra health could be quite a major improvement over slightly better booms
half zephyr
useful in some cases
half zephyr
how? do I just get her relic and restart 50 times?
you'll never get it on first try
bronze bramble
and generally for newer players still struggling to get their first clear, perha...
DD is essential, i think
half zephyr
you need a prerequisite boon
craggy barn
how? do I just get her relic and restart 50 times?
go to athena's codex entry and look at the bottom right
uncut ore
yeah I got her legendary once
half zephyr
it's not that hard to get it - esp if you have the legendary/duo mirror upgrade
uncut ore
its not THAT insane tbh
half zephyr
you should also aim for duos
uncut ore
it's not that hard to get it - esp if you have the legendary/duo mirror upgrade
whats dup?
runic sparrow
when fighting dad, the thing that got me a lot my first couple of times is the fact that he lunges forward when he does the wide swipe with his spear
craggy barn
go to athena's codex entry and look at the bottom right
@uncut ore
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<@!335329581190086658>
yes I saw
half zephyr
whats dup?
me hitting a wrong key on the keyboard
uncut ore
I got her legendary once
runic sparrow
and the fact that his wide swipe hits like a TRUCK
even more if you got hit with his cast
uncut ore
its not THAT op
runic sparrow
being murked for 80 damage is not fun.
uncut ore
and the fact that his wide swipe hits like a TRUCK
yeah how tf do I dodge that
uncut ore
did you check off prerequisites?
yes I took boons only for prerequisites
half zephyr
and use the legend/duo mirror upgrade?
craggy barn
usually you just try to dash at the right time to avoid the spin
uncut ore
didnt even get a legendary boon let alone a duo
half zephyr
you have terrible rng
craggy barn
the best way to avoid taking damage from it is to just use your dash i-frames
bronze bramble
yes I took boons only for prerequisites
I think u can only dash, no?
runic sparrow
you'll see a little outline of his swipe, then a bit later, he'll lunge forward, usually at you
uncut ore
you have terrible rng
ill just do another run then
but in a moment I gotta take a shower first
runic sparrow
lemme see if I can get a pic of what that tell looks like
half zephyr
duos appear for me all the time 
bronze bramble
With the beams you can hug him. that allows u to take less damage while attacking him
runic sparrow
bronze bramble
hug him wrong & it *hurts*
I KNOW TwT
craggy barn
With the beams you can hug him. that allows u to take less damage while attackin...
^^only in the second half of the second phase, for the triple beams just dash behind him lol
runic sparrow
once you see that, you have about a second before he actually attacks
half zephyr
I love the runs where he never gets to do his laser show
runic sparrow
don't get too jumpy and dash too soon
uncut ore
https://i.imgur.com/NOcFPcj.png
I saw a video on how to beat hades and it talked about that
I honestly never noticed that outline
I mean
runic sparrow
yeah it took me a while to notice it as well
uncut ore
the entire fight is way too quick and way too small of an arena
runic sparrow
once you get the timing down it's not that bad to dodge
craggy barn
also a huge tip is going for aphrodite so you can apply weak
half zephyr
I'm on switch - I see it all the time
uncut ore
to actually take a methodical or reactionary approach
uncut ore
~~Alternatively, run the Shield of Chaos and just block everything~~
yeah I havent really played with other weapons
I tried a few times with bow
runic sparrow
FUN FACT: If you block his cast with the shield, it just disappears
runic sparrow
it doesn't drop as a thing to hit, it just vanishes
uncut ore
heard shield was good might try it
runic sparrow
(Honestly not sure if intended feature or not)
craggy barn
i absolutely don't see what's up with new players saying weak doesn't seem useful, 30% damage reduction is massive especially if you get broken resolve bumping it up to at least 40%
runic sparrow
Weak is hella nice
uncut ore
i absolutely don't see what's up with new players saying weak doesn't seem usefu...
yeah its really nice
uncut ore
Arthur is OP
who tf is arthur
runic sparrow
Consider: 30% damage reduction is about 12 points less damage you take from Hades' wide swipe
uncut ore
to get that sweet sweet +40% dps
runic sparrow
fun build: "Your weak effects also have a chance to charm" + "Weak on Attack" with Exagryph
half zephyr
then dash-strike
runic sparrow
that was a fun time
half zephyr
you'll always hit priviliged status
runic sparrow
especially against Asterius + Theseus.
craggy barn
if you really can't find a way to efficiently apply 2 status curses you could try using family favourite
unhealthy fixation is fun
runic sparrow
the bull just randomly turns against Theseus like "Urrgh, shut up already! D:<"
half zephyr
oh sweet theseus
runic sparrow
pretty lulzy
runic sparrow
Since I brought him up, who do you focus down first?
runic sparrow
Personally I focus Asterius down first because I'd rather not have to try and dodge Theseus, the God's AoEs, AND deal with the bull as well
half zephyr
I tend to do Asterius first like everyone else
craggy barn
focusing down asterius first is the way to go
runic sparrow
kek
half zephyr
but for fun sometimes I do theseus
bronze bramble
asterius, always
half zephyr
often then on accident
craggy barn
if you're feeling ballsy you can get them both together and wail on them to kill them quickly
bronze bramble
when i try go for theseus, I die everytime and bye bye run
half zephyr
as I just attack them both, but theseus has weak defence when not blocking
bronze bramble
asterius does way to much for me to keep track while trying going for theseus
half zephyr
he's easy to track
he just jumps a lot
now em3 asterius..
no chance, always gonna take him out first
I don't wanna have a beyblade battle
craggy barn
the idea of taking them both down at once goes right out the window on em3 unless you happen to be lucky
craggy barn
you can hardly even get them close how you gonna beat them both up together
half zephyr
can't do that if he's dead
uncut ore
ok im back
uncut ore
attack + dash
wait what
with stygian blade?
but then the first melee wont hit anything
uncut ore
oh
half zephyr
not just attack + special
if you already dash in they'll likely be hit with 1 status
then you attack & it's another status
instant priviliged
uncut ore
what god applies an effect with dash?
half zephyr
dio, aphro, demeter, but in a weird way
half zephyr
athena if you get exposed on deflect
uncut ore
theres so little effects
half zephyr
poseidon if you get rupture on knock away
uncut ore
only aphro and dio really
half zephyr
zeus if you get jolted
half zephyr
it's up to you
uncut ore
ill keep blade I already used blood on it
actually?
I need to farm blood and diamonds
shield it is
bronze bramble
good luck 🤞
grand crystal
weak, doom, chill, jolted, ruptured, hangover, exposed, and i think marked
are all of the god curses
uncut ore
I got demeter + dio
demeter's dash effect and dio's melee efect
so basically free +40% dps
uncut ore
yeah
grand crystal
what weapon??
grand crystal
not the beam
bouta say 
half zephyr
but one that does area damage around you & inflicts chill whenever you use cast
uncut ore
what weapon??
sheild
half zephyr
it's great to get on Hera cuz it triggers when you load onto attack
grand crystal
but one that does area damage around you & inflicts chill whenever you use cast
ice wine duo with dio cast??
half zephyr
no, it's a straight demeter boon
uncut ore
why do they write eon as aeon?
bronze bramble
but one that does area damage around you & inflicts chill whenever you use cast
that one is quite good, i agree
half zephyr
Icy Flare
grand crystal
no, it's a straight demeter boon
ooooohhhhhh yea yea my b ik what youre talking about
half zephyr
it was so nice cuz when I was getting my bloodstones back I could just damage enemies by loading them again
plus status
uncut ore
wow the icy chill dash lasts basically forever
wait what
why does hermes have no duos?
bronze bramble
wow the icy chill dash lasts basically forever
and you can increase the time it lasts, I love it . the 1st time i defeated hades i had 3 of those nonstop poiting at him
half zephyr
you also can't force an encounter with him
uncut ore
he's not like the other gods
why?
uncut ore
you also can't force an encounter with him
encounter as in the first boon you find?
uncut ore
btw
when is my storyline supposed to advance?
I maxed out a ton of carachters
well, 2
and they have locked hearts
half zephyr
why?
in hades lore I'd have to guess it's because he's like the link between the underworld & the olympians?
uncut ore
how long till that unlocks?
half zephyr
I'm not sure ofc, but he isn't lke that
half zephyr
how long till that unlocks?
that's different between each player..
it's all rng & dialogue & story
uncut ore
that's different between each player..
is it rng?
uncut ore
it's all rng & dialogue & story
ok
runic sparrow
one of my favorite things is also Hades' responses to your purchases with the house contractor
runic sparrow
https://i.imgur.com/g45MVpZ.jpg OH HELLO THERE
runic sparrow
I mean, it's a legendary boon
and not quite as OP as you'd think with the cast I'm running(Demeter beam)
just means I don't have to hunt down the bloodstone after it expires
bronze bramble
still cool
uncut ore
yeah
charred anchor
How do u view how many fish youve caught
green dune
the cook doesn't cook them, he puts them in the fish tank
grand crystal
the cook doesn't cook them, he puts them in the fish tank
im at like 200 and just wondeirng how the fit in the tiny tank
bronze bramble
the cook doesn't cook them, he puts them in the fish tank
or whatever 🙈
half zephyr
im at like 200 and just wondeirng how the fit in the tiny tank
space time mumbo jumbo god magic
bronze bramble
eheh
green dune
also, it's a video game
charred anchor
How do i catch rare fish
grand crystal
How do i catch rare fish
get good at the mini game
and im not kidding
thats how you get the rare fish
green dune
perfect catches require .3 seconds from the flash
half zephyr
how can you get an overview of the house of hades by looking at some caged bats