h1-discussion

[half zephyr]

Or if I don’t get a choice

I love her chill when you cast

[swift mist]

does hades have any good mods? i'm planning to use mods after i 100% it

[halcyon oriole]

I really like getting killing freeze or whatever it is that causes damage over time when frozen

[humble lintel]

because if your bad you can just throw them down and get a free curse and damage, and then if i have like doom or smth on my weapon i get ez privledge

[half zephyr]

On Hera it’s great cuz you can dmg when you load your attack

[swift mist]

like i kinda just want mods that let me spawn in boons and stuff

[halcyon oriole]

and I usually get it pretty consistently

slow + damage over time is a good combination

[narrow hemlock]

@swift mist check the modding server, an invite is pinned in #self-promotion

[swift mist]

oh okie

[hasty owl]

welcome to seeding

[swift mist]

i totally know what that is

[modest bolt]

hey guys, Golden Touch or Deep Pockets?

[half zephyr]

Not this again..

I like golden touch

[modest bolt]

sorry figured i asked lol

[charred anchor]

i like deep pockets

[halcyon oriole]

which is which again?

[half zephyr]

Pockets you start w money

[modest bolt]

if you max the upgrade for the URNS, deep pockets isnt too bad

[pine copper]

yeah I run golden touch

[half zephyr]

Touch you get % money after each area

[halcyon oriole]

I use the one that gives you +X% per area when I'm focusing on gold that run to buy titan blood/diamond at the end

[half zephyr]

Or area

Chamber is Hermès ye

[halcyon oriole]

because over the long term, if you get a lot of gold, it's better

[half zephyr]

Side hustle

[modest bolt]

Hermes Side Hustle is awesome lol

[halcyon oriole]

but on a run where I'm not focusing on gold at all I'd rather get the lump sum up-front

Side Hustle is great, the problem is that it often competes with things like +20% attack/special speed

[half zephyr]

I like getting some money after each area

Keeps me from spending it all in 1 place

At once

[half zephyr]

Not with my rng

I wish I could get those more often

[halcyon oriole]

btw I fought extreme measures Theseus for the first time

I was... not expecting that.

I enjoy that he ||unironically wore the mask that Daedalus made as a joke||

[swift mist]

i am literally losing my mind trying to get the legendary chaos boon

[halcyon oriole]

I didn't even know there was a legendary Chaos boon.

[swift mist]

using the cosmic egg and everything

im losin my miiiind

[opaque heron]

I do also want to mention with golden touch, since you get the money later, anything you buy with it (heart/pom/boon) has ‘less value’ in a sense, since you have it for less time in your run

[hasty owl]

take every chaos boon, take the egg, turn on gods legacy and fated persuasion, and pray your ass off

[opaque heron]

Also with chaos, you have persuasian and the duo/legendary mirror talents on, right?

[halcyon oriole]

does the egg even help? I thought it just improved rarity

[hasty owl]

also maybe take deep pockets you you’ll have money to buy spawns from the charon well from the very beginning

[grand crystal]

yea its stupid hard since his boons repeat

[swift mist]

i already have those

[hasty owl]

rare or BETTER

[halcyon oriole]

Yeah, but does it increase the chance of a legendary boon appearing, or does it simply help increase the rarity of the boons that do appear?

[swift mist]

i'm using everything i can do max out my chances

i've gone through literally so many chaos gates today

[halcyon oriole]

I'm skeptical it helps legendary boons appear since there's already a specific upgrade for that

[swift mist]

it's the last boon i need and it just aint appearing

[hasty owl]

i THINK it increases rarity up to legendary

not 100% sure tho

(i’m talking about the egg not the mirror upgrade)

[halcyon oriole]

but legendary boons are only ever legendary, they'd have to be chosen before rarity is calculated, I would think. I guess it depends on what the code looks like

it's random enough we probably have no idea

[hasty owl]

but legendary is a type of rarity

[opaque heron]

I’m not sure about the egg/+rarity in general either. Someone more knowledgeable might know for sure, but my theory is that a ‘lesser’ chance at common boons means you indirectly have a higher chance at any other rarity.

[hasty owl]

that’s why u have gods legacy, gods pride, and the one i can’t remeber the name of

it increases the chance of that specific rarity appearing

just happens that for legendary it’s a way smaller pool

[modest bolt]

isnt legendary only 20%

chance*

[hasty owl]

10 iirc

[modest bolt]

DEAR GOD lol

[hasty owl]

oh wait no i think it’s 5% chance but you can add 10% w gods legacy

[modest bolt]

at least thats better rate than GACHA games with 0.0125%

[hasty owl]

to a whopping total of 15

[grand crystal]

ik theres other factors since ive gotten like 5 a run once

i think its like 30 something in the right circumstances

[hasty owl]

damn

that’s p decent

wait would that be a 30% chance per boon slot of per set of choices

bc if it’s per slot that’s a 90% chance of it being offered

[grand crystal]

i-

-_- probability is wack

at this point we just need to look at the code

[hasty owl]

show package contents inensifies

[grand crystal]

also hehe its great finishing out the duo prophecy

[eager kindle]

In my 170 total runs with this game, I only saw Chaos legendary boon ONCE

[grand crystal]

since now i have no obligations for duos

[hasty owl]

woo!

i’m at 120 runs

haven’t seen it yet

[grand crystal]

im at 100 and i saw it once

but then again i dont take chaos much :/

[half zephyr]

I’ve seen it several times

[swift mist]

[narrow hemlock]

not to like, dissuade anyone or anything but i think i was fairly well over 200hr before i ever saw it lmao but ive def seen people report seeing it early on so... random odds will random odds

[modest bolt]

i know this sounds wierd but is it strange that i just want to play this game just to farm gemstones and renovate the entire house? lol

feel like im playing gardenscapes

[half zephyr]

Get the fated persuasion upgrade, chaos egg if you want to, legendary/duo boost upgrade & the key will give fated

[swift mist]

im just grinding it out

[half zephyr]

Then buy every chaos gate thing from the well

Then you have a higher chance

[eager kindle]

It's pretty much the rarest boon there is in the game. I can pretty much consistently see every other gods' legendaries.

[half zephyr]

I didn’t do all that, but that’s all I can think of that’ll boost your chances

I guess chaos just likes me

I didn’t even know he had a legendary when he gave it to me

[grand crystal]

yk i hate trying to get demeter boons in general

[hasty owl]

lol

[grand crystal]

like i just never get what i need from her

i was grinding out cold embrace last night

and i got a run with 5 other duos

and the run after that i got 3 duos

but like only one was cold embrace

[pine copper]

thats what I'm doin

[half zephyr]

She doesn’t like that you hid Kore from her

[grand crystal]

yea well i dont like her subpar boons anyway

[hasty owl]

sassy

[grand crystal]

and now i have zero reason to touch anything demeter gives me

[modest bolt]

@pine copper i might as well just do that and enjoy the ride hoping i get chaos boon and oceans bounty with luck lol

[half zephyr]

Welcome to Hades - a decorating dating sim with fighting on the side (and yes, you CAN pet the dog!)

[pine copper]

yeah

something to do on the side lol

[grand crystal]

(but only one head ;w;)

i wanna pet the other 2 cerby heads

[half zephyr]

Only one head wants it

[pine copper]

i like calling it a dating sim

like

brb i have to kill my dad to progress this dating sim

[hasty owl]

i love demeter’s call tho

[grand crystal]

ik but like, i wanna bet the others anyway

[modest bolt]

i really want to fight cerberus

[hasty owl]

r/brandnewsentence

[grand crystal]

isnt that just any dating sim tho tbh

[half zephyr]

You gotta think about what the dog wants - not what you want

[pine copper]

NOOOOO

[hasty owl]

i think he appeals in em4 if you REALLY want it

[grand crystal]

;w;

yea hades has a cerberus call

you dont fight him

[hasty owl]

it’s close

[modest bolt]

yeah i saw that online, that is everywhere

[grand crystal]

he just runs across the field and makes meteors fall

[pine copper]

cerberus killed me once 💔

[hasty owl]

awww happy babey boy

[pine copper]

my first em4 fight was crazy I was just constantly yelling

[grand crystal]

kinda funny ngl, and i got a voice line of zag going "dont kill me boy"

[hasty owl]

lol

[modest bolt]

im gonna turn off the heat level that makes them super fast, not fun to play against lol

[grand crystal]

i hate em4 with any weapon that isnt bow -_-

[modest bolt]

esepcially the spear dudes in elysium

[hasty owl]

havent actually tied em4 yet

scary 🥺

[pine copper]

he spawned a ...laser crystal thing I forgot the name of and I was like WHAAATTTTGHDAJSHSJ

[grand crystal]

lol heat used to give darkness benefits

but it doesnt anymore :/

[modest bolt]

wait you serious?

[pine copper]

and then j got through that and he called cerberus and I actually yelled out of fear

[narrow hemlock]

i did it with fists because i like heedlessly throwing myself into danger like an idiot

[grand crystal]

and so now when im tired i just play on 5(hell mode :>)

[modest bolt]

wow that wouldve made me more likely to play high heat more

more benefits

[hasty owl]

skelly’s prizes werent enticing enough for you??

[modest bolt]

come on SUPERGIANT, at least incorporate that

[grand crystal]

yea it used to be a %bonus to darkness

[modest bolt]

NO lol

[pine copper]

I had no idea em4 had a third phase and let me tell you when he got back up i lost my mind

[grand crystal]

and then you couldnt see :3

honestly not being able to see is the most stressful part

[pine copper]

I died before tht on my first attempt LMAO

[hasty owl]

ouchie owie i’m blind

[modest bolt]

when i first fought hades i was like..wait...(out of breath) your not DEAD YET? drops control

[pine copper]

yeah I also had no idea he even had a second phase

[modest bolt]

lol

[grand crystal]

yea it hits different

[pine copper]

i was on attempt like 25 and I thought I was getting him so low

[modest bolt]

wait if you max EM4, he has third phase?

[hasty owl]

yup

[modest bolt]

NOPE!!! im out haha

[hasty owl]

im still standing

[pine copper]

and I told my friend "im so close I got him down so low!!!!!!" and he laughed at me and I didn't know why

[grand crystal]

but i remember back when the fight was new in EA, yk the pot move?? yea he would break them all instantly

[half zephyr]

Where do you think you get it from

[grand crystal]

it was terrifying

[pine copper]

and my next run i got to phase 2 and I just HAHWHWGHSSWGWHHW

[half zephyr]

I swear it’s all genetic

[modest bolt]

but wait you know who is a tough boss?

SEPHIROTH in FF7

[grand crystal]

hehe he just takes dd in em4 and not sd

[modest bolt]

his TRUE FINAL FORM

[half zephyr]

Wrong page to discuss FF7 tho

[hasty owl]

cool bame

name

sounds snakey

[modest bolt]

i know i know lol, i have to say the boss i dont like fighting is definetely hydra

and that thing that shoots skulls out every second

[hasty owl]

theseus annoys me

he keeps blocking

[grand crystal]

just go behind him :3

[hasty owl]

it’s only fun when i do it >:(

[pine copper]

I play like an idiot so I hate asphodel

[modest bolt]

lol

[hasty owl]

hypnos vibes

[grand crystal]

lol me too

[modest bolt]

this game reminds me so much like bloodborne

[hasty owl]

don’t turn on heightened security

as a fellow idiot

it sucks so bad

[modest bolt]

you go ham, but one mistake, BAM youre dead

[pine copper]

I learned the hard way

[grand crystal]

like after 100 runs in curr patch i still dont know what im doing :>

[pine copper]

omg speaking of heightened security

[hasty owl]

idiots together strong

[opal oar]

I also play like an idiot

buttonmashing knuckle-draggers rise up

[modest bolt]

same here lol

[pine copper]

I had that on and hades pot thing did 150 damage and killed me instantly when I was hitless until then

I was so mad

[hasty owl]

oop

[grand crystal]

yep, HS is stupid

and should either be higher heat or lower %

like maybe 1 heat per 100% bonus or smth

[modest bolt]

but hey, game is fun right lol?

[grand crystal]

not 1 heat for 400%

[grand crystal]

0_0

high

heat

;w;

[modest bolt]

i do anything in high heat except the TRAPS and super speed

[grand crystal]

im trying to clear 32 on all weapons and it sucks

[modest bolt]

it gets rough

[half zephyr]

I wanna finish my Arthur run but energy

Commitment

[modest bolt]

especially if you dont have mirror maxed out yet :/

[hasty owl]

brave soul

[pine copper]

my highest heat is still only 16 😪

on fists

[half zephyr]

Motivation

[hasty owl]

i’ve only cleared 32 heat once

w chaos shield

[modest bolt]

mine for rama lol

[hasty owl]

and it took me over an hour

honestly i found 16 heat super easy

32 killed me

such a huge difference

[modest bolt]

you know i actually like the CHAOS shield more than zeus, is that wierd?

[pine copper]

I do too

[half zephyr]

Nono

[hasty owl]

chaos shield best shield aspect

[grand crystal]

yea i have i think shield and bow done

and ive been so close on rail

[half zephyr]

Some like pinball more then beyblade

[grand crystal]

i just keep getting garbage styx

[modest bolt]

the extra shields are so useful

[hasty owl]

also guys i wanna play but i don’t wanna stop typing 🥺

[grand crystal]

do both

[half zephyr]

The life

[hasty owl]

my life is truly so painful

[grand crystal]

i mean im in class rn so like :/

[half zephyr]

I love both pinball AND beyblade

[pine copper]

im in class talking abt hades instead of starting this test

[swift mist]

another chaos gate with no legendary im losing it

[modest bolt]

lol

[hasty owl]

maybe i should do talos fists and just spam y and only move at the end of rooms and see how long i go

[modest bolt]

im at work just chilling

[pine copper]

thinking about half an hour from now when class ends and I can go home and play hades

[hasty owl]

ouchie

[half zephyr]

I’m trying to find the energy & motivation to complete my Arthur run

[hasty owl]

arthur is very fun

[grand crystal]

lol i hate arthur ngl

[hasty owl]

but slow

[half zephyr]

I love it really

[hasty owl]

avoid tight deadline if u can

[grand crystal]

i hate all hidden aspects that arent rama

[modest bolt]

when i first beat hades, took me 5 hours, now im at 28 hours into the game and i am addicted

[half zephyr]

It’s just hard to focus when in pain

[grand crystal]

like luci is fun with sea storm but thats it

[pine copper]

I hate Arthur but it was the first aspect I unlocked and I cleared with it on my first try with it

I will not touch it again

[hasty owl]

i wonder how many hours in i am

[grand crystal]

lol me with half of the weapons

[hasty owl]

ok i’m about to go off

[modest bolt]

how many hours you guyts have?

[hasty owl]

luci is the absolute most fun

[half zephyr]

Not many

[hasty owl]

ESPECIALLY with aphro attack

[grand crystal]

ummmmm i think around a couple hundred??

[hasty owl]

all the way up to legendary

[pine copper]

I honestly hated anything that wasn't fists or sword or bow until like. pretty recently

[half zephyr]

105+h

[hasty owl]

it is INSANE

[modest bolt]

DEAR LORD! lol

[grand crystal]

ive played EA and on several accounts

so i dont have an accurate count

[hasty owl]

i didn’t get it on steam so i can’t track

:(

[pine copper]

yeah I think with steam and switch combined I have 100ish

[grand crystal]

and ive been getting back into the game recently cuz the community is epic

[modest bolt]

HADES is one of those games where you can just pick up and go and play other games and come back and just chill lol

[half zephyr]

I only play on switch so 105+ is the most accurate I can get

[modest bolt]

105?

did you get all the achievements

true ending?

[half zephyr]

Hours

[modest bolt]

liek the TRUE TRUE TRUE ending

[half zephyr]

I don’t have achievements on switch

[hasty owl]

i’m stkll@working to it

[modest bolt]

i play on switch too

[half zephyr]

I’ve completed the epilogue ye

[swift mist]

https://imgur.com/viO5Bvl
he does not want to fight

[half zephyr]

Working my way through other side stories now

[modest bolt]

i really dont want to farm all those nectars and ambrosias lol

[grand crystal]

lmao

youve killed him too many times

[half zephyr]

It’s easy

Just go 1 heat at a time

[modest bolt]

per weapon^ lol

[half zephyr]

If you haven’t done all prophesies just do those too

[grand crystal]

or be like me and jump up to 16 & 32 when you get bored

and then die in tart

[modest bolt]

haha

[half zephyr]

How about no

[grand crystal]

lol

[modest bolt]

i actually purposely let myself die until my god mode resistance is 80%

haha

[desert meadow]

Basically 115 lol

[half zephyr]

Ye, easy when you follow The Darkness

[modest bolt]

you guys should have god mode on

[pine copper]

exactly what I do

[grand crystal]

omfg will(supergiant) has been playing dicey dungeons for 23 hours

[modest bolt]

even with it, i died at 32 heat

[pine copper]

EXACTLYY what i do hahhaha

[hasty owl]

yike

[half zephyr]

Not everyone in here wants it on

[modest bolt]

i have it on only for high heat

[half zephyr]

Some like the game how it is normally

[grand crystal]

im on hell mode 😎

[half zephyr]

Or they do hell mode

[modest bolt]

oh forget that!

[grand crystal]

so i physically cant

[modest bolt]

lol

[hasty owl]

hell mode 32 heat all weapons clear? christ

[grand crystal]

hell mode is literally just 5 heat

[modest bolt]

i had my fairshare of bloodborne, that difficulty was high enough

[grand crystal]

thats all it is

and personal liability which is eh

[hasty owl]

yeah but don’t u have to keep raising for bounties

makes everything slower

[grand crystal]

i get bounties earlier tho

like right off the bat i get pact

and the heat isnt hard

[hasty owl]

fair

[grand crystal]

its hard labor, calisthenics, lasting consequences, jurry summons(??), and like personal liability

i think im missing one

but thats all it is

[half zephyr]

EM?

[pine copper]

I dont think so

[grand crystal]

no

[half zephyr]

Prolly not

[grand crystal]

its like a few of the top ones on the pact

like the pure number changing ones

[pine copper]

my newest side project has been trying to do hell mode fresh file

[grand crystal]

oh nice

i cant even do fresh file

[pine copper]

the farthest I've made it is first few elysium chambers

same LMAO

[grand crystal]

i get to the champions and die

[pine copper]

Im just a masochist or something

[grand crystal]

lol do 64 heat then

[pine copper]

maybe that's why this game is so fun

[half zephyr]

@pine copper did you know that if you throw down the Arthur special sigil thing on lava you can stand on in without burning

[pine copper]

I know I just said I'd never touch Arthur like 5 minutes ago but

you're tempting me

[half zephyr]

Surprised me during the fight w em2 lernie

I was just dashing & then I didn’t take damage

I just stood there a second in shock lol

Guess the sigil acts like a platform

[pine copper]

the amount of times I've died to em2 lernie because I just stand there burning is ridiculous

[half zephyr]

Turned off other traps too

In the fight with the fury sisters

But I still didn’t expect being able to stand on lava

[hasty owl]

yo i just got the decathlete award on a victory screen

what does that mean lol

[grand crystal]

w u t

[narrow hemlock]

ya athurs field disables traps while its up, and slows projectiles that come into the field

[grand crystal]

i-

[half zephyr]

I love that even you didn’t know this

[grand crystal]

HS weapon

[half zephyr]

And I’m on my second run w Arthur

[grand crystal]

HS weapon

[half zephyr]

Ever

[grand crystal]

my brain is massive thank you very much >:3

[half zephyr]

[swift mist]

the abundance of furry pfps pleases me

[marsh rivet]

Lmao

[modest bolt]

ok i know someone told me this but

dont ever start with poseidons keepsake if you farming right?

i prey i get chaos soon lol

[marsh rivet]

Disclaimer: I've never farmed, but if I wanted to I would start Poseidon on Eris for Tidal Dash and hope to get Ocean's Bounty

[swift mist]

the only good poseidon boons for me are the ones that increase how much darkness and stuff you get, and the first 10 second damage

i hate knocking stuff away

just increases kill time if they're flying across the map as you're attacking them

[marsh rivet]

Sure you can "guarantee" Ocean's Bounty by bringing the Conch Shell to Asphodel but Tidal Dash is already fantastic on Eris so shrug

[modest bolt]

isnt Tidal Dash just dash, how does that effect Eris?

[marsh rivet]

Eris gives you global damage, and Tidal Dash's damage is really high for basically being free

Eris also scales Razor Shoals damage

[halcyon oriole]

Tidal Dash's damage gets ridonkulous if you have other knockback-affecting boons, and if you have +max dashes

dash 3 times at them next to a wall and they're just wrecked

[modest bolt]

im sorry im not understanding the Eris+Tidal Dash theory lol

[halcyon oriole]

Eris gives you bonus damage. ALL damage, not just attack/weapon damage

[modest bolt]

OHHH

lol

[marsh rivet]

It's not a theory lol. It's just a straight interaction. Tidal Dash does damage. Eris's buff is 75% global damage

[halcyon oriole]

I'm still bad at using Eris though

[modest bolt]

im like...how does tidal dash effect eris bullets?

[half zephyr]

Not bullets

[modest bolt]

i get it now haha

[halcyon oriole]

because I'm not sure how to best take advantage of it. Do I just bomb myself, or bomb enemies and rush at them so I also get hit, etc.

[half zephyr]

Eris is you standing in the special

Absorb it & for 4 seconds you get dmg boost

[modest bolt]

and then you jsut dash around right

[half zephyr]

Mhmm

[modest bolt]

killing everything

lol

[marsh rivet]

SInce the Eris nerf you have to be a lot more active in using your special. Typically you aim it at enemies and dash into them as it explodes

[modest bolt]

along with teh sea wall damage thingy

[half zephyr]

I like having a status dash myself

But I need at least 2 status boons for privileged

[marsh rivet]

Privileged Status stinky 💩

[half zephyr]

I prefer Zeus dash + jolted

[modest bolt]

not gonna lie that sounds kinda fun

[half zephyr]

Depends on your playstyle

Works better for me since I love stacking status

[modest bolt]

Zeus build is stupid strong on alll of the weapons

i need to try aphro and dio more

the privelege status would def be fun

cant you believe i never gave DIO a nectar? i was missing his keepsake >.<

[half zephyr]

Wao

[modest bolt]

28hours in LOL

[half zephyr]

[modest bolt]

im like..WHERE IS IT!

[charred anchor]

i have dionysus maxed <3 my beloved...

[marsh rivet]

Just as a point of comparison, by Elysium you will likely always have 25% on Family Favorites. You honestly won't be able to tell much of a difference between that and 40% from PS

[signal aspen]

bruh

I almost have every bond in the game

[half zephyr]

You can

[signal aspen]

im missing hypnos, orpheus, hermes, and nyx

[half zephyr]

I did feel a difference

Thats why I switched

[marsh rivet]

That's only assuming that you have 100% uptime on PS, and you also have to keep in mind the 2 abilities you use to apply PS don't get any buff at all

[half zephyr]

Doom

And either jolted, weak or hangover

Chill in a pinch

Exposed if I have no other choice or I’m running Athena boons

Rupture too

If I run Poseidon

[charred anchor]

throwback to when i had beowulf + trippy shot + zeus and demeters duo boons that buffed trippy shot

it was op

[half zephyr]

Mhmm

Like getting sea storm when you have jolted & rupture

[marsh rivet]

Shrug, it's playstyle at the end of the day. Dio builds are my absolute favorite and even then, I have had a lot of runs where I end up with Artemis as my secondary damage source, Athena on Dash, no Exposed, and no PS.

For a lot of people, the risk is worth the benefit. YMMV

[half zephyr]

I always have privileged status so it’s not a problem for me

[modest bolt]

me too

it helped a lot

its a good boss killer

[indigo ginkgo]

trippy shot is awesome

[halcyon oriole]

I kind of want to try trippy shot with hera

[viscid fern]

nuke gun

[unborn remnant]

Oh wait, I forgot

[halcyon oriole]

hera with aphrodite cast isn't bad, I don't know how the damage compares though

[unborn remnant]

@half zephyr beat EM4 yesterday

[half zephyr]

[grand crystal]

about the same tbh, dio cast is more duo heavy tho

[charred anchor]

dionysus cast is really good during the hades fight bc you're fighting in a small area

but its not that great in like the theseus fight

[unborn remnant]

Its very difficult

[charred anchor]

i prefer aphrodite cast with hera personally

[grand crystal]

hunting blades on hera is epic 😎

[signal aspen]

what

i tried that and it sucked

[marsh rivet]

I don't think Hunting Blades is capable of sucking. Slicing Shot on the other hand, is a trash fire, so yeah

[pine copper]

thats ares cast right

[half zephyr]

Seeking blade rift is amazing

And then you get ares legend & it’s even more amazing

[signal aspen]

its literally the second worst boon to get on hera

[marsh rivet]

Yeah, the cost is that Slicing Shot by itself is just unbelievably bad omg

[half zephyr]

I don’t mean on Hera

Never assume I’m talking about bow - it’s my least favorite weapon

[unborn remnant]

:(

[pine copper]

I really like ares cast 💔

[marsh rivet]

Chase your bliss

[half zephyr]

Though I was forced to get ares cast last time I tried Hera cuz it was my only option for cast at all

[signal aspen]

i wasnt talking about you

[pine copper]

oh but I dont play with hera so

[grand crystal]

i liked it :c

[half zephyr]

No, you just wrote right after me about something I mentioned - silly me thinking I was the intended recipient there

[grand crystal]

it got to spend more time on the enemies faster

[half zephyr]

[half zephyr]

Ares cast is great

Especially when you get Artie duo

[unborn remnant]

ares cast is pretty good

beyblade

[half zephyr]

Yup

[marsh rivet]

Yeah I'm not arguing against Hunting Blades. That duo is straight 🔥

[half zephyr]

Now ares cast while you’re doing Zeus shield is just funny

It’s double beyblade

And then you go up against em3 Asterius

And it’s beyblade battle

[unborn remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/beyblade-toy-spin-spinning-speed-gif-17398512

zeus shield gameplay

[half zephyr]

[grand crystal]

yea

[opaque heron]

Zeus Shield Merciful End tho. Ares Special, Athena Attack. Alternatively add on Dire Misfortune for absurd doom damage.

[half zephyr]

Heh

[opaque heron]

It’s how I got my first Zeus Shield win. Totally not biased.

[half zephyr]

My Arthur run turned into a paladin run

Got cursed slash for fun

[opaque heron]

So you were a blursed Paladin?

[half zephyr]

And suddenly I was a tank that could heal myself

Beat daddy with 100hp

Didn’t lose a single dd to him

Got 71hp left

[pine copper]

ok im finally home it is time for a fun or two or however many I can fit in before I have to leave again😎

I had to stop mid run this morning because I completely lost track of time

[half zephyr]

Enjoy

[pine copper]

but I had just killed lernie at like. 5:02 or something

[charred anchor]

damn just barely beat hades on this crappy boonless run

i didnt even manage boonless bc i had to take a demeter boon

[wide bison]

I thought you had to take a boon whenever it was offered?

[charred anchor]

yeah but i purged them

i couldnt purge the last one tho

YOO HYPNOS MADE THE HOUSE OF HADES BOARD THING

good for him 😊

[dusky scaffold]

aaayy i toke down the hydra

i gusse i didnt need the extra death defiance

[cerulean ferry]

Good job

[restive cave]

how am i supposed to build the the spears last aspect? the one that cuts your health down

[half zephyr]

I’m trying it for the first myself now

[restive cave]

the heal on it is very very small

[red jewel]

I dunno how or why
But I got my first rare fish

[half zephyr]

Timing

[red jewel]

Zeus or Dionysus
maxing out the aspect before even attempting to use it

hope for charge up hammers

[grand crystal]

yea i honestly dont recommend many of the hidden aspects without leveling it first

they are too weak and niche otherwise

[half zephyr]

I got the charge up spin first

I got hammer as soon as I dropped down

Very lucky

That then went straight into chaos

[grand crystal]

yall think hammer or boon is a better start??

[red jewel]

Eh

i'd say maybe Arthur, Rama and Beowulf are pretty much the same without leveling it

[red jewel]

depends on the weapon and aspect

[grand crystal]

rama needs to be leveled tbh tho

like the damage buff is too low otherwise

[grand crystal]

and yea you right

[red jewel]

fair
But you'd be going Rama Zeus or Rama Dio on special either way

[restive cave]

how do you start with a hammer?

[craggy barn]

beowulf's titan blood upgrades are only impactful in tartarus

[red jewel]

You just hope that you do
That's it

[grand crystal]

its luck

[craggy barn]

something to note that equipping a god's keepsake at the start of the run doesn't guarantee there'll be a god instead of a hammer, what it does is it makes sure that the next boon you obtain will be from that respective god

[red jewel]

true

[craggy barn]

not the next room reward

[red jewel]

Also I find Gilgamesh's Maim to be like-
Doom+

[craggy barn]

you can get a centaur heart or gold before you get the god that you actually want to show up, though there's the case of hermes

[half zephyr]

I much sad

I wanted Poseidon aid

[red jewel]

Hermes can show up before the god you want

[half zephyr]

Instead he offered everything but his aid

[craggy barn]

hermes is a bit weird in that he technically isn't an olympian god in terms of how his boons show up as room rewards

[half zephyr]

So I got drunk w dio

He’ll always aid me

[craggy barn]

he doesn't count towards the 4-gods-per-run limit and you can only get 2 boons from him per run (3 if you buy from styx)

[red jewel]

I just think Hermes like Chaos
They don't have any duo boons
But their boons are extremely helpful

[craggy barn]

both of them pretty much have something for everyone

[runic fern]

Like Daedalus hammer

[craggy barn]

i like how they both cater to cast builds, you want +1 casts from chaos and then auto/quick reload from hermes and then his legendary

[runic fern]

Also does the 4 gods per limit rule only apply if you choose that god?

[steep scarab]

May someone PLEASE explain how the status effects work? Do they stack, does damage from multiple boons of the same effect add up? I’m talking about specifically:
Lightning damage
Hangover
Doom
Chill
Etc, etc

Also Is bolt damage and lightning damage different?

[runic fern]

Or are they the first four gods

[red jewel]

i'll answer this

[craggy barn]

the difference from hammers is that chao and hermes' boons can range from common to heroic

though chaos' boon can only be common to epic

[half zephyr]

I’ve had rare chaos boons

[steep scarab]

I’ve seem so many conflicting arguments on this topic

[half zephyr]

And legendary

So chaos just isn’t a hero

Poor chaos

[craggy barn]

chaos created heroes

[dusky scaffold]

[craggy barn]

[half zephyr]

He isn’t one though

He can’t be heroic

[craggy barn]

ackshually

[unborn remnant]

[craggy barn]

chaos has no gender

[red jewel]

So yes, the effects and curses CAN stack together, considering privaliged status exists
And bolt and lightning damage do count as the same, since they both trigger jolted and zeus legendary.
Although curses that can actually stack [Hangover and Chill] can only stack a limited number of times
although Hangover is a bit wonky on those terms

[craggy barn]

they are a they/them smh i can't believe you would assume their gender like that 💅 😒

[half zephyr]

Normally I use they/them but I am mid run so I just wrote the shortest thing

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Chaos is both male & female & neither

[craggy barn]

can't you just pause to stop the timer

or something\

[half zephyr]

Ye, I was mid battle

I was just pausing to type

Didn’t wanna lose the flow completely

[steep scarab]

I understand that, I’ve been playing the game for 120 hours😅
I’m asking about from the same God. Like Drunken Strike and Hangover Special and Dionysus’ Aid

How much damage would hangover do?

Also can Doom stack?

[half zephyr]

You forgot to mention doom

[red jewel]

pause
boon selection
talking to someone

[half zephyr]

Ye, via a boon

[red jewel]

Oh yeah, doom with...
dire misfortune, I think

[half zephyr]

Mhmm

[craggy barn]

i casually run td3 i'm quite sure i would know what stops the timer and what doesn't

[half zephyr]

Up to 10 or so

[red jewel]

Hangover is a bit confusing in that regard
But you'll apply a new hangover stack with each hit, replacing an old one

so you'd deal hangover damage from Drunken Strike instead of from dio aid

[steep scarab]

So let’s say I have Drunken Attack and Special

Would I do
4 damage every 0.5 sec
8 damage
Or 12 damage?

[half zephyr]

Do not ask me

I don’t do numbers

Numbers make my head hurt

[copper canopy]

Speedruns of this game are weird to watch, because I see them and think “this doesn’t look any different from what I do”, yet it manages to be half the time it takes me.

[warped iron]

mee6 is typing

[red jewel]

It's best not to think of these things, okay child?

[red jewel]

[half zephyr]

You’ll just see big numbers pop up eventually

And see the enemy health bar drop

[warped iron]

Okay so there's a max of 5* hangover stacks. period. if you hit an enemy with either your attack or special, it overwrites the oldest stack

that's how it works, as far as I understand.

[steep scarab]

I’m sorry. I just wanna make sure if I have something that causes hangover, is it worth getting another boon with hangover to combine the hangover damage?

[warped iron]

see my comment

[red jewel]

And yes, Doom can stack, if you have Dire Misfortune
although you'll most likely barely notice it unless you have a fast attacking weapon, like fists or rail

[unborn remnant]

I thought it was 10 stacks?

[warped iron]

Nope, 5, or 8 if you have dio aphro boon

[unborn remnant]

ah

[red jewel]

Oh
So in short answer
stick with one Hangover boon
and if you get Dionysus aid
then you're set

[half zephyr]

Heh

[warped iron]

For what it's worth, the oldest stack is replaced with the newest stack regardless if it's a lower damage stack that it's getting replaced by

[half zephyr]

Winged Serpent

[copper canopy]

?

[steep scarab]

So the hang over damage will combine? Or does it vary depending on whether I hit them with my attack or special?

[half zephyr]

Guan Yu upgrade

[warped iron]

It combines up until 5 stacks.

[half zephyr]

Makes spin travel 80% longer

[copper canopy]

Ah that one

[warped iron]

say, you can apply 3 instances of your dio attack and 2 instances of your dio special

they all stack

you hit the enemy with special one more time

given you hit the enemy in the order
Attack -> Attack -> Attack -> Special -> Special -> Special

you now have 2 attack stacks and 3 special stacks

[half zephyr]

It’ll always add up to 5

[warped iron]

unless you have dio/aphro duo & enemy is weak

[red jewel]

I often see Guan Yu spin as better blade rifts

[half zephyr]

That’s why it’s nice to get the blast boons with doom & chill

[steep scarab]

Yes. I understand the effect maxes out, but would the different moves give different hang over damage?

[warped iron]

Yes, they do.

[half zephyr]

Idk if I like it so far

[red jewel]

yes

[half zephyr]

I’ll find out

[steep scarab]

So it replaces the weaker one as well?

[warped iron]

no, not necessarily

just the oldest one

which could be a stronger stack

[half zephyr]

It replaces the oldest one regardless of if it’s the weakest or strongest

[warped iron]

^

[red jewel]

yeag

[copper canopy]

I’m curious if it’s possible to do a pacifist run of the game; let enemies die to traps until you get the auto doom duo buff(although you’d need to get it early on)

[warped iron]

pacifist run: mod the game to not spawn enemies

[red jewel]

Dude
that'd just be an absolute hell

[steep scarab]

So if my attacked does 4, and my special does 6, my hangover effects will not equal 10 damage per stack?

[red jewel]

because not all rooms have traps

[warped iron]

No, it won't.

[copper canopy]

Yes, but is it possible?

[red jewel]

No

[dusky scaffold]

third boss got me tho but i didt have much health going in

[warped iron]

In such a case, if you apply the stack with your attack it will do 4 per tick. With your special, 6 per tick.

[red jewel]

Not unless you have some godlike luck
Or mod the game to give you vengeful mood and merciful end

[steep scarab]

Thank you. That was so confusing for me. I kept thinking of getting multiple hangover boons to combine the hang over damage. Does any status effect in the game do this?

[warped iron]

Yeah hangover is

uh

[copper canopy]

Unique

[warped iron]

not the most well-explained boon

[copper canopy]

Oh nvm

[warped iron]

I don't think any other status works like that either, although no other status really stacks like hangover does.

Only one that I can think of would be doom, and I don't know how that works if you hit an enemy again without that other boon

[copper canopy]

What about Dire Misfortune and Doom causing attack and special

[steep scarab]

I was thinking of doing a Dionysus only build and have the stacks do like 50 damage per 0.5 seconds per stack. Oh well

[warped iron]

Dire Misfortune is its own thing

it adds a fixed amount

As for how doom interacts with itself, I don't know.

Say you put a 50 damage doom, and then hit an enemy with a 100 damage doom before it triggers, but you don't have DM

does it do 50 or 100

yeah i have no clue

[copper canopy]

50 i think

[steep scarab]

What about “bolt damage?” Like from Lighting reflexes and Zeus’ Special? Would the bolt damage combine?

[warped iron]

👌

[red jewel]

It is not possible
because you'd have to rely on trap or magma damage
and like, half of the enemies can fly over most of the traps

and the bosses will just kill you
the furies take little to no damage from traps, and tisiphone's room doesn't have any traps
lernie isn't affected by the magma
theseus and asterius' room doesn't have any traps
king vermin is a c*nt
and hades himself spawns in the traps, which heal him if you're on EM4

[warped iron]

Nope.

[humble lotus]

Im confused as to how i ||repair the thing for nyx and chaos||

[red jewel]

no

and before you ask
jolted can't stack

[copper canopy]

Yeah but what if you get the duo boon before the first boss?

[red jewel]

which duo boon?

[warped iron]

ares zeus i think

[copper canopy]

The one that automatically inflicts doom every 3 seconds

[warped iron]

^

not doom, but revenge effects

[red jewel]

Vengeful Mood?

[warped iron]

yeah

[copper canopy]

Yeah

[steep scarab]

So no status effects combine damage with the same status effects? Not a single one? Besides Doom and Dire Misfortune from what I keep seeing?

[warped iron]

i forgot to reply to this, so here goes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irGpTsQfK7I

[copper canopy]

Chill

[warped iron]

above is me

😔

[copper canopy]

Wait you did that?

[warped iron]

yeah that speedrun me

mfw the video is like

more than twice the IGT in length

[copper canopy]

Nice, I’ll watch it right now.

[warped iron]

decision making time

[red jewel]

well, first of all
You have to hope to find Zeus or Ares at the start and hope that they give you their revenge boons
then painfully take your time with getting a lot more revenge boons

[copper canopy]

I’m asking if it’s theoretically possible, so let’s say perfect luck is involved.

[red jewel]

and hope that you find Vengeful Mood before the first boss, or maybe even in asphodel

[grand crystal]

whats the point of the pauses in the shop??

is it just to decide

[warped iron]

yeah

p much

[grand crystal]

without spending time

ah ok

[copper canopy]

I do the same before multiple doors

and shops

Okay now I’m watching it

[steep scarab]

What about Doom Attack, Doom Special, and Dire Misfortune? Doom will combine all 3 or is it similar to Hangover and dire misfortune will apply to which move you used?

[red jewel]

it's theorectically possible
but at the same time

you're probably gonna die before defeating Hades

[warped iron]

i'm watching it myself

haven't actually watched it yet

[grand crystal]

it only applies with the one you used

[red jewel]

dire misfortune adds a fixed amount
its not wack like hangover

[warped iron]

fairly sure I messed up the asphodel miniboss

this run

[grand crystal]

so having a 60 damage curse and an 80 damage, hitting with the 60 then 80 with dire misfortun(being +10) only procks 70 damage

[steep scarab]

Okay. Thank you. I think I understand it now. I’m sorry for asking so many questions

[grand crystal]

its perfectly fine! its a rogue like, theres a lot to know and ask about

[warped iron]

^

[grand crystal]

when i started playing i asked a lot of questions too so dont worry about it

[red jewel]

So in my personal opinion
a 'pacifist' run of Hades is impossible, unless you mod the game to give you the required boons to give you a CHANCE at succeeding

[warped iron]

vengeful mood hades fights are things that get posted somewhat often in the speedrunning discord

[red jewel]

yes
but I think they're asking if it's possible without any form of attack other than Vengeful Mood and traps

[warped iron]

yes, that's what I mean.

as for the whole game

not sure

[red jewel]

I say it's impossible, due to the amount of luck you have to have/having to mod the game to just give you the boons

[warped iron]

yeah, at 7:40 i mess up the 3-witch meg

[hollow kettle]

oh god https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/812514102815227964/814225912656297984/unknown.png

I see it now

I can't unsee

[grand crystal]

i-

why

why did you

i-

;w;

[warped iron]

smh

[grand crystal]

well ok

not really

[red jewel]

I cannot unsee

[warped iron]

at 9:00 i'm just waiting for than to shut up and leave

[grand crystal]

endeavor is just an ass

[warped iron]

😔

[grand crystal]

hades has reasons and drive besides "i want strong kid"

[swift mist]

hades is very nice at the end c:

[grand crystal]

and zag isnt like "i refuse to use half of my power since dad sucks"

so like

if you dont know the plots and drives then yea ig it works

but if you look too hard it falls apart

[red jewel]

just the dynamic

[hollow kettle]

I just see "firey boi who hates his dad and has both of his parents' eye colors"

[red jewel]

I just see gay

[half zephyr]

Omfg that was close

25hp left

Nope, Guan Yu is not for me

[grand crystal]

yea i hate gy

very gross spear

[half zephyr]

No more fidi

For now

Huh, sword again

Time for another Arthur run I guess

After break time =w=

[red jewel]

Guan Yu works well for me in max jury summons

[unborn remnant]

gonna do an aspect of zeus run later

[red jewel]

What boons are you hoping on getting?

[unborn remnant]

zeus

splash dash

everything else idk

maybe artemis and ares

[red jewel]

zeus zeus

[unborn remnant]

it works

[red jewel]

It does

[unborn remnant]

Or I'll do a trippy shot run

[red jewel]

trippy shot zeus

[brisk trail]

am I forever doomed to have the denizens of the deep prophecy forever be the last thing in this game i can't complete

I really just can't seem to react to the visual prompt fast enough,

[red jewel]

Ima be honest
I dunno how to do that one either

[red jewel]

Wait, there's a prompt?

[brisk trail]

I just mean the regular fishing prompt, i can't seem to react within the 0.36 seconds to get a perfect catch

i've literally never gotten one, let alone a rare fish

[grand crystal]

the audible is better tbh

[red jewel]

Dude
I just got a rare fish about...
fifty-ish fishes in, more or less

[grand crystal]

i go off of both tho but if id have to chose one id say audible is the best to go off of

[brisk trail]

k i'll try focusing on the audio next time

[red jewel]

Or just press the button whenever you think the prompt is gonna start

[grand crystal]

yea, what i do is that if it isnt a first bite thing, it takes 1 nib, then it might drop

so if you can call it

or at least get that rhythm down and be ready

[velvet scaffold]

noo i got charon to a third of his health but died

[restive cave]

if a symbol above a door has a skull icon underneath it does that mean theres a tougher encounter if i go that way, like asterius or something

[velvet scaffold]

yes it means there's either a miniboss or enemies with armor

[halcyon oriole]

Is anyone else as bad as I am at avoiding attacks from exalted bow dudes?

[grand crystal]

yea im garbage at it

the timing is wack

and dont get me started on armored

[halcyon oriole]

they also suffer from one significant flaw Hades has: Enemies doing stuff from off-screen

you have to interact with off-screen enemies waaay too much

since their attacks can be longer range than that, and sometimes yours are as well

[grand crystal]

yeaa

i honestly just haet elysium as a whole

[tardy minnow]

oo more congrats to hades in the gayming awards!!!!

[digital python]

does the raging rush not count as a dash?

[viscid fern]

strongbows are fine imo, since the reticle tells you exactly when to dodge

and other projectiles are slow enough to avoid from offscreen

certainly not that big an issue imo

[viscid fern]

should count as special damage but im not too sure. certainly won't get dash bonuses though

[halcyon oriole]

yeah the reticle is basically necessary

[dusky wedge]

Would be nice if the reticle changes when the attack is going off, but then we have a problem when multiple reticles are on our head, all with different timings...

Idk, maybe something could still be done with how off-screen attacks is shown

Maybe show different little arrows pointing to where all the reticles is coming from? So, we at least know at which angle we can hide from it? Idk

[viscid fern]

ive never really had this problem, mostly cause you don't generally have line of sight with multiple bow men at a time

and the reticles do change colour before firing, as well as getting more stable

its really obvious when you're about to get shot, and i guess direction doesn't matter much

some indicators would be nice though, wouldn't hurt

[humble lintel]

hey guys, i have a q... i beat the final boss twice with god mode enabled, and now 3 times without. it shows this in the escape records in the admin room, but when i look at the per weapon info thing, it only shows 3 total clears. from what ive read i need to beat the boss 9 times to get a ending, do i need 6 more or 4 more clears?

[grand crystal]

i think you need 5(the number is 10 for an ending not 9) more since youve already cleared it 5 times but check the codex and go to "greece" in the location section(idk what its called) and it should give you the "learn more from going there x more times"

that should give you how many more clears you need

[modest bolt]

what is the most diappointing keepsake to upgrade? i checked wiki and im not gonna lie, Hermes is so sad lol

1.2%?

[half zephyr]

PLUME IS AWESOME

do max zag fist runs

Dodge run

You never take it off during dodge runs

[modest bolt]

what about megs skull keepsake?

that looks good for high heat

[humble lintel]

ok ty

[half zephyr]

I don’t do high heat

High heat entry level is 32

[modest bolt]

lol

[humble lintel]

yeah it says 5, so 5 more for me

[modest bolt]

"entry"

[half zephyr]

Yes

[modest bolt]

isnt max is 40?

[half zephyr]

Huh heat starts at 32

People are doing 40, 50

[grand crystal]

yea np :3

[half zephyr]

Some madlads 60

[modest bolt]

what how! lol

60?

dear lord

[half zephyr]

You can still add heat

Just don’t get rewards

[modest bolt]

thats so sad

[half zephyr]

It’s the high heat community

It’s for fun

It’s not for me

[unborn remnant]

pain heat

[keen bear]

Does anyone else go through a rough patch sometimes? I recently finished my first 10 complete runs, using different weapons too and now suddenly it's like I cant play anymore. I get hit all the time and make silly mistakes.

[grand crystal]

oof yea i get that with just about anything

i can go from getting a 30 win streak and beating high heats to just dying on hades on no heat

[restive cave]

i get that just walking down the street

[keen bear]

hahaha

[grand crystal]

but all you can do is push through and pick yourself back up!

[keen bear]

true true!

[grand crystal]

and thats what i think rogue likes really teach

just perseverance and that we have bad days but we can work through it

[keen bear]

I also got lucky with some builds a few runs I guess

[restive cave]

i didnt think id enjoy rogue like games but then i played risk of rain 2 and loved it

[keen bear]

lightning rod is so OP

I usually play very different games

but its been fun

[restive cave]

same, ive been on a dark souls binge lately

[keen bear]

never heard of it, it looks dark

[charred anchor]

how much health does hades have like, total?

[half zephyr]

Idk

A bunchalot?

[grand crystal]

lol yea a lot

[charred anchor]

cuz when i summoned thanatos was like a quarter of his hp

so he must have about 14,000 hp per phase

that was second phase tho and i wouldnt be surprised if he had more hp second phase

according to the wiki he has 17,000 per phase :0000

how even

[half zephyr]

He’s an Olympian god

With a domain

Close to his domain

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Though I guess here he’s chthonic too?

[charred anchor]

chthonic

[half zephyr]

Y’know that also sounds like a drink

Instead of a gin tonic I’ll have a chthonic

[grand crystal]

mhm, ill just have the term used to describe relations with death on the side

or like underworld relations

and its fun to say :3

chthonic

[half zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-hyenas-do-it-again-mufasa-gif-17215334

[runic parrot]

chthonic is used to describe underworld deities and whatever festivals or rituals they're related to

[pine copper]

I dont even know if I say it right irl but its fun

[runic parrot]

and it is fun to say yeah

[pine copper]

chthonic

[half zephyr]

Replace w chthonic

[runic parrot]

k-th-on-ik

[pine copper]

I LOVE the mufasa thing so much ill do it randomly irl

ok I do say it right pog

[half zephyr]

Now you can say Chthonic

[teal isle]

the thing that i love the most about the HADES fandom is that several artists just looked at hypnos and agreed that has got the most Chaos like cosmic power going on but hes so goddma chill he doesnt look it

[pine copper]

YRAH

I love drawing hypnos his face is like that cat with a knife pointed at it meme

bt hes a little feral monster

[craggy barn]

"EM5 Hypnos" looks so goddamn cool but how would it even work

if you die you lose your save because hypnos puts zag to sleep forever or something?

[narrow hemlock]

hypnos can snap, as a treat

[teal isle]

i mean sleep is just a gentler version of death

[craggy barn]

maybe not for gods

he can just put you to sleep for eternity and hide you somewhere in tartarus

[teal isle]

plus the whole thing of replace death with an "eternal slumber"

[halcyon oriole]

he just does an inception kind of thing, invades people's dreams and convinces them to hate Zagreus in revenge

imagine you talk to all your friends one day, but every single one of them had a really uncomfortable dream about you last night

and the whole vibe is just off

[pine copper]

LSKSSJSKKS

[teal isle]

i mean hypnos is poweful enough to put multiple gods to sleep all at the same time

[craggy barn]

didn't he like make zeus fall asleep twice or sumn

[halcyon oriole]

I'm just saying, this is consistent with his powers and his in-game personality

except for the fact that I don't see Hades Hypnos as capable of vengeance

he seems more the "aw, I can't stay mad at you" type

[teal isle]

but fr the hairwinged, multi eye hypnes art slaps

plus there are legit personifactions of sleep (nighmates, messanger dreams, and sureal dreams), so im assuming hynos is kind of all encompassing with thoes

[halcyon oriole]

Hypnos is a big softie who probably loves horror movies

[pine copper]

YESSSS

[teal isle]

since its cannon that Nyx made all the cthonic compaions by hand it means she can sew and i fully believe she made Hynpos pillow cloak thing for him

[pine copper]

I need to draw more hypnos soon

[modest bolt]

has anyone completed building their house in hades?

[teal isle]

n o p e

[modest bolt]

im workign hard for the infernal fireplace

[pine copper]

I think I finished zags room

but nothing else

[teal isle]

im still trying to learn how to play the lyre

[craggy barn]

i'm not interested in changing up my house of hades now so i'm just saving up for the arty theme

[grand crystal]

i have like 5 things left ;w;

and they are all over 1k gems

[craggy barn]

charon's treasures are ugly

i'm definitely not just short on gemstones or anything

[humble lotus]

Huh

I found a minor graphical bug

[craggy barn]

[humble lotus]

Yeah for some reason when you have trippy flare and look at high tolerence in the boon list it will highlight you as having trippy shot

[craggy barn]

are you on steam?

[humble lotus]

Nope

Switch

[modest bolt]

some of these things are sooo expensive lol

[craggy barn]

not sure where to report bugs outside of f10 on pc since i personally haven't even encountered any of them in nearly 200 hours

but try posting an image of it in #h1-tech-support

[humble lotus]

Ah im too lazy and it isnt a real issue

[craggy barn]

i likely wouldn't bother with it anyways since the devs almost just left in a "hydra skip" glitch but it caused the game to crash

[modest bolt]

achille spear or hades?

Hades sweep is ridiculious lol

[grand crystal]

yea but achilles is a cast weapon

honeslty i like achilles more for the movement

i get hit too many times out of charging for hades that it isnt too worth it

[craggy barn]

a big difference between hades and achilles is that hades' damage boost is additive which means it only increases your damage by 150% of your base damage while achilles is multiplicative which means it increases the damage that you already deal by 150%

[pine copper]

I really like achilles

[grand crystal]

oh really??

thats cool

[brisk trail]

No, not true.

[pine copper]

before I started playing like an idiot achilles spear helped me play safe

[brisk trail]

Achilles is also additive.

[modest bolt]

achilles is fun to fly around lol

[pine copper]

and backstab damage is cool

[modest bolt]

i like that his next 4 moves are painful

[pine copper]

I also like it bc of how fast you can reposition in dad fight

[modest bolt]

good stuff

[brisk trail]

The difference is that Casts increase their base damage whenever they're leveled.

[craggy barn]

i think i heard from someone that achilles is multiplicative

[brisk trail]

So even if you Pom the crap out of Deadly Strike you're still getting only 250~% damage up.

[craggy barn]

but it still affects cast damage and hades doesn't so it has more "usability"

[brisk trail]

I can confirm from very extensive play that it's not multiplicative.

Hades also has a longer duration on its bonus and boosts Special damage.

[rare patrol]

Demeter casts are so fun with Achilles

esp with Aphrodite or Artemis duo boons

[craggy barn]

achilles is cast builds

hades is w.e that isn't a cast build

[rare patrol]

i dont like stopping and exposing myself to damage like that

never really got a good run with the hades spear

[craggy barn]

well hey if it goes poorly just get exploding launcher