h1-discussion

[indigo ginkgo]

hiss once

[half zephyr]

hey, you was right btw - I did end up getting it today in the end

[keen pasture]

lernie

[viscid fern]

Wish you saw Alecto and Tis around the House

Makes them less 2d

[grand crystal]

well alecto does too, she tells you to shut up and fight after a certain point

thats development ig

[unborn remnant]

yeah that's true @half zephyr

i had a feeling

[stiff trellis]

Also theseus being memed on is great

[half zephyr]

alecto dialogue after you date meg is just

the best

[crude pasture]

That's just a different kind of crazy

[unborn remnant]

alecto just isnt an engaging character

[viscid fern]

Theseus' arc is sick

Loved it

[unborn remnant]

tisiphone just says one thing and it got very old

[viscid fern]

False

[half zephyr]

she says more!

[viscid fern]

She says two things

Plot

[half zephyr]

you just haven't seen her enough

[crude pasture]

She also says murderer, in addition to murder!

[keen pasture]

i'd like a perseus or medusa cameo

[unborn remnant]

I know

[half zephyr]

medusa is here tho

[indigo ginkgo]

yesterday I was mindlessly skipping through the dialogue and she said murderzer

[unborn remnant]

she says Zagreus eventually

[half zephyr]

dusa

[unborn remnant]

which is better

[stiff trellis]

My favourite dialogue with theseus is when he offers to give you his autograph

[unborn remnant]

but shes still d or c tier at best

[stiff trellis]

I was cackling

[indigo ginkgo]

I felt so bad

[grand crystal]

hehe yea but i felt bad

[stiff trellis]

I felt bad for him yeah

[viscid fern]

||I really liked that Theseus and Asterius get new attacks after their little subplot. Gives more weight to all the little concersations in the game. ||

[keen pasture]

dusa is not the medusa from the mythos

[stiff trellis]

But it was still really funny

[grand crystal]

like he genuinely wanted someones appreciation

[half zephyr]

she kinda talks about it tho

[grand crystal]

yea and the va did a wonderful job

[indigo ginkgo]

maid dusa

#puns

[half zephyr]

that she had a body before

[stiff trellis]

Yeah the VA REALLY sold that

[crude pasture]

Oh god, how did I never get this

[stiff trellis]

Props to them

[keen pasture]

oh no

[half zephyr]

and she doesn't wanna talk about that time or her gorgon sisters on the surface

[stiff trellis]

Give the little hair snakes maid outfits

[grand crystal]

hehe ive seen a post and it makes me laugh lemme see if i can dig enough and find it

[half zephyr]

she's not the same anymore

she's a new gorgon now

[keen pasture]

so she is medusa

[half zephyr]

yup

[indigo ginkgo]

LMAO

[half zephyr]

maid dusa is medusa

[keen pasture]

thx proxy

[half zephyr]

easiest pun

[copper canopy]

No she’s actually- dangit beat me to it

[stiff trellis]

I keep forgetting that my nickname here is about dusa

[half zephyr]

[stiff trellis]

It used to be Zagreus and the half-dead A-team

[unborn remnant]

I literally didnt realize her name was medusa until like

50 hours in

[grand crystal]

yea no i cant find the post ;w;

[half zephyr]

lol

gg lyte

[unborn remnant]

ggs

[half zephyr]

[unborn remnant]

im what we in the biz call

Not Smart™️

[keen pasture]

well i think the game needs more heroes

maybe a kratos cameo

[half zephyr]

they're all either on olympus or in elysium

[indigo ginkgo]

that's for the sequel

[keen pasture]

that'd kill me

wait

sequel?

[crude pasture]

Literally! stabs

[indigo ginkgo]

I'm memeing

[keen pasture]

😦

[grand crystal]

lol

[keen pasture]

roguelikes don't usually get sequels

[indigo ginkgo]

yeah

they get EXPANSIONS

[keen pasture]

can't think of one that has

[unborn remnant]

Kaizo Hades when

[crude pasture]

Never!

[indigo ginkgo]

isaac getting new dlc next month

[half zephyr]

yess

time to get back into isaac then

maybe

I have that game far too many places

[keen pasture]

pact of punishment 2.0 get to 100 heat

difficulty per heat level would have to be lowered and add more nerfs

[stiff trellis]

Pact of punishment 100 heat

Hades just walks into the courtyard and punches zag in the face

[indigo ginkgo]

supergiant is really good at releasing complete games lol it's hard to think what to add

like the isaac dlc formula is MOAR STUFF

[crude pasture]

Nah, just have Tight Deadline go to -5 minutes

[indigo ginkgo]

but where are we gonna get more gods

[crude pasture]

Egyptian mythology

[half zephyr]

norse

[stiff trellis]

Well

[half zephyr]

heck, you can just do roman

there's slight differences

[crude pasture]

Roman is basically just a reskin

[keen pasture]

well hestia can enter but they'd break part of the lore

[stiff trellis]

There are many ancient gods to work from

[indigo ginkgo]

the tricky part is tying it in

[half zephyr]

there's still differences between them that could be fun to explore

[grand crystal]

i wanted to see japanese mythos ;w;

[stiff trellis]

The greek ones are just the most easiest ones to adapt

[indigo ginkgo]

because this game has story

[grand crystal]

like susano'o instead of arthur

[crude pasture]

And they're the most well-known

[keen pasture]

cuz dyonisus and hestia are never mentioned together on olympus

[half zephyr]

I mean they have an in with the hidden aspects 😗

[stiff trellis]

Yeah!

[grand crystal]

yea since dio replaced hestia in the pantheon

[keen pasture]

hestia gives her seat to dyonisus

[grand crystal]

mhm

[stiff trellis]

Egyptian gods aren't really as involved with their mythos as greek gods were

[half zephyr]

Hestia is the goddess of the home & the hearth

[keen pasture]

and fire

[half zephyr]

ye

[stiff trellis]

They mostly interacted with the other gods instead of the people

[indigo ginkgo]

also this game's random buffs are very standardized

[half zephyr]

that's kind of tied to the hearth

since it's a fireplace

[indigo ginkgo]

you don't really get the crazy variance of isaac

[keen pasture]

except for osiris god of the dead

[stiff trellis]

That's true

[keen pasture]

and that dog he had

killed unworthy people

[stiff trellis]

Osiris and Anubis were the only ones who regularly did that

[half zephyr]

tbh if a god interacted with a mortal it didn't tend to turn out very well

[stiff trellis]

Exactly

looks at sobek

[indigo ginkgo]

so I guess one way to make dlc expansion would be to give the existing gods a richer pool of boons that can get more wild and new regions

[keen pasture]

in greek mythology dyo's mom died cuz zeus showed his true form to her and she burned

[stiff trellis]

To be fair

There are many, many greek gods and monsters to work with

[runic fern]

Spelunky

[half zephyr]

I don't feel like there'll be "dlc" expansions 😗

[stiff trellis]

As well as a plethora of heroes

[keen pasture]

oh titans

[indigo ginkgo]

I don't think either

[keen pasture]

titans dlc

[stiff trellis]

Spelunky took a LONG time tho

[indigo ginkgo]

it's not their custom

[half zephyr]

titans are already gone though

[indigo ginkgo]

collect their shards

[keen pasture]

they are sealed in tartarus

[indigo ginkgo]

and piece them back together

[lucid saffron]

does rogue legacy count

[indigo ginkgo]

ultimate family reunion

[stiff trellis]

Come to think of it the last few years have seen quite a few roguelike sequels

[half zephyr]

the game isn't even that old officially

it only "released" september 27th, wasn't it?

or 17th

[stiff trellis]

If there was going to be anything to change

[half zephyr]

was september something

[stiff trellis]

It would be adding in alternative bosses or something like that

Namely in elysium

[lucid saffron]

please Santa, a Hades sequel with Mesoamerican deities

[stiff trellis]

But that would take a lot of work

Most likely needing another pair of heroes and then writing up their personalities to make them stand out, then making their dynamic good

[vast gulch]

What exactly is this referring to, there aren't many myths about Sobek beyond his involvement in the Osiris myth

[stiff trellis]

He eats

Monch

[indigo ginkgo]

omg priapus

imagine that one in the game

[vast gulch]

"Hey there, little godling! You've got a long, hard journey ahead of you, but hopefully my boons will see you through that sticky climax at the end!"

[stiff trellis]

I think one of my favourite ways that supergiant handled greek mythology is without question the "Dionysus and zagreus are the same being" myth

That made me laugh really hard

[indigo ginkgo]

oh so that's a real myth?

[half zephyr]

ye

[indigo ginkgo]

that makes it so much better LMAO

[vast gulch]

The Orphic cult

[half zephyr]

there's many varying myths

that all tell different things

they all exist

it's great fun

does make it a little hard when you're trying to get 1 timeline going though

[indigo ginkgo]

would priapus be able to override the winter like persephone does?

[vast gulch]

Pretty sure he's not even close to her level

[indigo ginkgo]

F

[vast gulch]

he's far beyond it

[indigo ginkgo]

LMAO

we gotta have those luxurious eggplant fields

[vast gulch]

He came very close to being an Olympian proper, though, and only got kicked out because he's Aphro's kid and Hera was still mad at Aphro for the events before the Trojan War, so she cursed him

[grand crystal]

damn hoes do be mad tho

[indigo ginkgo]

one of my favorite lines is aphrodite saying she could never get her tricks to work on achilles

little did she know

[heavy hound]

Lmao

[stiff trellis]

You know what would be a wild god to have in this game?

Pan being in styx

Just like "Sup"

Fun fact: pan would go into forests and scream randomly to scare people

[half zephyr]

I've been halfway wondering if the satyrs keeps coming into styx to escape the endless winter raging outside >.>

[stiff trellis]

Huh. Never thought about that

[unborn remnant]

shadow hows the run

[indigo ginkgo]

the choice to make demeter winter is probably the most brilliant aspect of the game's world-building

[grand crystal]

well didnt dem stop that?? post epilogue that is

and i wanna see spring dem art :3

and hera actually

[half zephyr]

gonna start soon - idk which keepsake, companion or mirror upgrades to use

[indigo ginkgo]

it's such a simple concept but it creates so many new scenarios to explore

[grand crystal]

since theres dialogue between zag and arte that the skulls on the bow are very hera

[unborn remnant]

@half zephyr use Aphro cast for Tartarus

companion can be meg or bouldy

[half zephyr]

I feel like even if she stops it it'll take time for the snow to melt & all

[unborn remnant]

also run privileged status

and make sure you have multi-cast

[half zephyr]

I know that, but was thinking more "stygian or infernal"

thank you

bouldy it is then

[chrome edge]

oh dang a void fish

i guess they only appear with the lure

[half zephyr]

heheheh

@unborn remnant only epic boon is crush shot
the others be basic

great start at least

[grand crystal]

no, its random

[unborn remnant]

it was destined to be

@half zephyr pom it up to level 6 over the run

[half zephyr]

I know

[chrome edge]

first time I've seen one in like 30 trips to chaos

must be pretty rare

[grand crystal]

ah, yea the chance is stupid low at like 5% i think

ive gotten like 4 in like 90 runs

[chrome edge]

lure seems the way to go then

[grand crystal]

5 but i missed that one ;w;

mhm, if you can get one

[novel wasp]

You can try favor boon to up your chances

[grand crystal]

lure is rare for me

[indigo ginkgo]

what is

lure

[half zephyr]

and now zeus is giving me epic heavens vengeance

[unborn remnant]

The best setup you can get is Aphro - Demeter - Artemis - Poseidon imo

[half zephyr]

I didn't have a choice tho

[unborn remnant]

Valid

its all good

[half zephyr]

and I have your build idea on picture

[unborn remnant]

I just hope you finally get a clear

oh good

[half zephyr]

epic lightning reflexes

[unborn remnant]

not bad

[half zephyr]

ok

sniper shot, twin shot or triple shot?

idk which would be best this time >.<

[grand crystal]

twin

i like twin

[half zephyr]

it's my first time running Hera

[grand crystal]

ummmm what cast

[half zephyr]

crush

[grand crystal]

yea twin

because the casts work wierd with triple in my experience

and sniper is kinda useless imo

[half zephyr]

m'kay

twin it is

how fitting

a fishing spot in the poseidon boon room

[grand crystal]

lol

[half zephyr]

first bite too

[grand crystal]

posiedon is the only one with 2 legendaries

[half zephyr]

no

hermes

[grand crystal]

-_-

thats mirror dependent

[half zephyr]

he's got them too~

but still got 2

[grand crystal]

but i remember back in early access in the feedback channel i was like "they mostly have 2 gimmiks so why cant we have 2 legendaries" and it never came to pass

[swift mist]

i dont get it, for the legendary chaos boon i need boons with names with 1 word, instead of "slothful" etc. how?

like i have "slothful strike" but i just need a boon called "strike"

[half zephyr]

oh ye

chaos too

he has 2 legends I think

[unborn remnant]

How is it now?

[grand crystal]

yea, so essentially since his boons are 2 words, the penalty + boon, and the boon is what matters there

[half zephyr]

no, just 1

[grand crystal]

any "blank strike" applies

[swift mist]

yes the penalty expired and it still says slothful.

[half zephyr]

oh ye, it was just I took forever to get one of his basic it was harder to find then his legendary

[grand crystal]

but you still have the legendary in the pool

snice you have a boon from him with the word "strike" in it

[swift mist]

it says it isnt green. the "strike" in the requirements list is not green.

it says i do not have it

[half zephyr]

got twin shot, and sadly ended up with basic tidal dash

he kept wanting me to have epic attack or heroic shot

[grand crystal]

o h

huh

well

i actually dont know there

but it should still count

[charred anchor]

any suggestions for em4 hades? gonna give it a shot

[grand crystal]

turn up your brightness

and be ready

i wont say anything else

[charred anchor]

okay but like any weapon or boon suggestions

[grand crystal]

hmmm

not really

do what you want to do

just make sure you have high damage + survivability

just being able to live matters a lot in the fight

[half zephyr]

ooh

it's my first time alone w meg since we started dating

[grand crystal]

oooo

[half zephyr]

new dialogue

[unborn remnant]

Twin Shot is goated

Did you die already?

@half zephyr

[half zephyr]

NOW I GET RARE GREATER EVASION

instead of basic

and on first hermes

this sad

still living

[unborn remnant]

winner POV

[solemn tartan]

Where do I put hades meme

That I made

[half zephyr]

ravenous will

[half zephyr]

#fan-works

[half zephyr]

epic

neat

[solemn tartan]

Yep

[half zephyr]

now, I already Twin Shot..

do I go for Concentrated Volley, Piercing Volley or Explosive Shot?

[solemn tartan]

I wanted to know

[half zephyr]

know what

[solemn tartan]

Is the hexagryph powerful because its technically the first firearm ever made hades lore wise?

[half zephyr]

idk

[solemn tartan]

The weapon functions like a firearm

[crude pasture]

Explosive Shot for sure

[solemn tartan]

Yea explosive is great

[half zephyr]

but slow

[unborn remnant]

dont go for anything with special shadow

[half zephyr]

fine

[unborn remnant]

special bad in this run

attack good

[solemn tartan]

Slap on zeus boons with exagryph and your good to go

[half zephyr]

slow tho

[crude pasture]

You can probably find one or two Hermes boons to help with that

[half zephyr]

the time for hermes has passed

[solemn tartan]

Or get the triple shot

[crude pasture]

And being slow doesn't matter if you kill everything in one hit

[half zephyr]

that time has also passed

[unborn remnant]

do you like the build?

[half zephyr]

my whole playstyle revolves around being fast
I'm adhd - slow is death

[half zephyr]

hera is ok, just slow

fast kills, but slow loading

[solemn tartan]

What about Lucifer

[half zephyr]

ok ye, I can get something out of this run at least

[half zephyr]

haven't unlocked yet, only unveiled

[solemn tartan]

Ah

[half zephyr]

just got chaos

[solemn tartan]

Its pretty different

But huge bombage

[half zephyr]

I can at least get +111% darkness & gems

good for a collection run

just gotta avoid traps

wasn't that bad penalty tho

only +230%

HA

SOMETHING GOOD CAME OUT OF THIS!!

||I see you overcome the wild and make peace with death||

[copper canopy]

?????

[half zephyr]

malphon

hidden

unlock

\0/

[copper canopy]

Oh right

[half zephyr]

Asterius best bull

[copper canopy]

I forgot the phrases

[half zephyr]

neat

got doom special & urge to kill

[unborn remnant]

did you lose?

:(

[half zephyr]

no lol

[unborn remnant]

oh good

first bow clear?

[hybrid moon]

I prefer to change mirror to 1 cast reloading instead of 3 if I use hera

[half zephyr]

but like, just trying to find the good things in this run

[unborn remnant]

:(

[half zephyr]

no, I'm still in elysium

[unborn remnant]

I get it

[half zephyr]

it's something to get used to

for now my opinion is... turtle vs hare

it's slow, steady & will likely make me win more often..

[unborn remnant]

its actually very fast when you get good with it

[half zephyr]

but it's still not as fun as the fast paced stuff I'm used to from melee

[unborn remnant]

1 cast for a kill, then load the next, etc

[half zephyr]

not with explosive shot it isn't

it's killing me every shot XD

so slow

[unborn remnant]

oh I see

[half zephyr]

if I didn't have that I think I'd have more fun

[unborn remnant]

I just hope you like it :)

[half zephyr]

by the time I get the shot loaded up an enemy has already hit me multiple times >.<

[unborn remnant]

sad

all this for a bad run

[half zephyr]

hey, I got +111% darkness & gems

plus a new hidden aspect phrase

so far it's doing amazing as a collection run

[unborn remnant]

good!

[half zephyr]

not sure I'll ever run it with benefits package though

armored foes be hard enough right now

[grand shale]

wait guys

can you use a companion in styx and then in the hades fight?

urgent

[half zephyr]

that depends on if you have many uses & if you've unlocked that yet

[runic parrot]

depends on how far into the story you are

[grand shale]

no its the sisyphus one

[runic parrot]

some companions you cant use on hades before you unlocked the trigger

[grand shale]

i have 2 uses left

[runic parrot]

i mean, i dont see why not

they're different encounters

[half zephyr]

yes you can

[grand shale]

OMG YESSSS

THANCC

[half zephyr]

you can use it in every chamber in styx

one after the other

so long as you have enough uses left

you just have to have unlocked the Hades thing

if you wanna use it out there

[plucky pike]

so i just got hades for myself a couple days ago for my birthday right, already my 5th most played game on steam lmao, 50 hours and 67% achievements lmao

[unborn remnant]

nice

[plucky pike]

oop

[half zephyr]

lyte

[plucky pike]

its just so good, i dont know why i waited so long to play it

[unborn remnant]

yes?

[half zephyr]

what aid do I wanna aim for - demeter, ares, aphro or poseidon?

I'm in styx those be the options

[unborn remnant]

for what?

[half zephyr]

call

[unborn remnant]

probably aphro first

[half zephyr]

aid

[unborn remnant]

oh call?

yeah aphro or ares

[crude pasture]

Seconded

[half zephyr]

ares first then - he's in a room

might get enough money from him if he doesn't give his call to me to buy aphro boon

that looks weird

let me change that

[next sphinx]

Does anyone know any good let’s plays? Bonus points for two or more people who like each other experiencing the story blind

[half zephyr]

I only know of 1 let's play

no bueno

got curse of vengeance tho

[unborn remnant]

nice

[half zephyr]

time for money room

no aid, but got curse of longing

poor Hades

[half zephyr]

so, no ares & no aphro.. poseidon or demeter?

who first

or both just as bad?

[unborn remnant]

poseidon on dash?

[half zephyr]

mhmm

[unborn remnant]

do you have rare crop?

[half zephyr]

no

[unborn remnant]

demeter city

[half zephyr]

still no go

so... hmm

epic killing freeze, rare snow burst or rare frozen touch

[unborn remnant]

:(

killing freeze ig?

[half zephyr]

the question is

does me attacking count as casting

since it loads the cast

[unborn remnant]

I think?

idk

[half zephyr]

I'll try snow burst

for science

oooh

it does area dmg 50 & inflicts chill when I load the bow

fun

it's gonna be a no aid run this time

but that's ok

I GOT EPIC RUPTURE \0/

20 rupture dmg

it's a 5 chamber sack today

[unborn remnant]

oh huge

[half zephyr]

ye

"Cerberus must be starving!"

[unborn remnant]

TRUE

help him

[half zephyr]

time for Hades

[unborn remnant]

gl

[half zephyr]

ta

[craggy barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/813201279958122517/unknown.png

lol

i almost had 3 dds with sd on but i decided not to take athena in elysium and when she showed up in styx she didn't give it to me 😔

[covert mason]

Hey guys, I bought all the West Hall decorations but there is still no checkmark at the top? Is there more to unlock?

[craggy barn]

well, yes

of course

[half zephyr]

heheheeheh

made it more fun by dropping bouldy on him just as I did the final attack

so just after he falls down bouldy dropped on his head

[unborn remnant]

YES

[half zephyr]

slow run tho

37 mins >.<

and now I stepped on a peel & died

[unborn remnant]

lets gooo

bow clear tho!

[half zephyr]

true

moms back!

ooooh

there's new dialogue cuz I was up on the featured houseservants board!

omfg

||Hades put me up there||

[tight cave]

Gotta love when you're playing with Approval Process on and finally get a duo boon out of nowhere, the dialogue hypes you up.. then it just happens to be the one boon that you can't get.. 😑

[half zephyr]

sad

yay

another 1 ambrosia for 500 darkness trade

[unborn remnant]

did i help at all with the build or anything?

[half zephyr]

you made my build

I did everything you told me to lol

except for aid since I was denied that

[unborn remnant]

:)

[half zephyr]

now it's spear time

[unborn remnant]

so its an assist?

sorta?

[half zephyr]

sure

I can see me trying it again to try & get more used to it

but I'd like to have faster loading/shots

[unborn remnant]

I agree

usually its a pretty fast build

speedrunners use it

[half zephyr]

see, the bow doesn't like me either

so it'll just put me in the path of slow

well, gotta aim for freezing vortex next time

[charred anchor]

eyyy i beat hades on em4

[half zephyr]

gonna do a collection run since I'll be getting fated authority crossed off my list at last

congrats

[charred anchor]

did he mean to leave his spear behind cuz its just spinning there

[half zephyr]

[charred anchor]

where can i post a screenshot of it

[half zephyr]

uhm.. idk

[narrow hemlock]

victory screen screenshots go in #h1-victory-boasting, otherwise other screenshots go in appropriate discussion channels

[charred anchor]

i cant post pictures tho

[half zephyr]

I got all HA

[narrow hemlock]

yes, we dont allow it. however embeds are on, so you can link to an image

[charred anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697458124260638750/813205600958808103/unknown.png

oh hey it worked

[half zephyr]

well, thank you for the intro guide to Hera @unborn remnant

now it's time for me to go sleep

ttyl sometime

[runic parrot]

zag picks up gigaros and brings it home

[half zephyr]

by the rules of video game logic - finders keepers

[vast gulch]

"Grant me the aspect of Hades...no, the other one!"

[unborn remnant]

you're welcome :)

oh

ttyl

[plucky pike]

hey i was just wondering, i got the Poseidon prophecy where i have to beat extreme measures Theseus, if i already beat it once before the prophecy was revealed do I have to do it again?

[brazen lagoon]

Don't think so

[plucky pike]

alright thats good to know thx, I really dont like fighting Theseus with his chariot lol, i probably just have to wait for the poseidon dialogue, if it comes to me having to beat them again with extreme measures tho it is what it is

[grand crystal]

hehe the spear is the trophy

[heavy hound]

I feel like theseus with chariot is easier than normal theseus

Its asterius which is harder

Imo

[plucky pike]

might just be that Theseus is a piece of work dialogue wise for me

[heavy hound]

Lol

[plucky pike]

😂

[heavy hound]

you fiend

All that you have achieved is for naught

That’s my favorite one

[plucky pike]

asterius looks down and shuffles hooves

[heavy hound]

I love asterius

I simp

[plucky pike]

for real, one of my favorite characters

always gotta take the mini boss chambers

in elysium

[heavy hound]

I hate asterius mini boss

Em3

[plucky pike]

i enjoy the banter lol

also i think it brings down his health in the final encounter

might be wrong about that tho

[runic parrot]

it does

[heavy hound]

Yeah it does

[runic parrot]

doing 40 heat, gets em3 asterius miniboss, run's dead

cant seem to kill him without losing 2 dd's

[plucky pike]

I know supergiant doesnt really do dlcs, but i just want to play as asterius and thanatos now LOL
Hades 2 dealing with theseus as a friend

[tepid plover]

that sounds painful

nightmare material

[grand crystal]

damn just gonna do theseus like that

[tepid plover]

of course

all my homies hate theseus

[plucky pike]

all my homies hate theseus

you beat me to it lmao

[tepid plover]

homies unite

[plucky pike]

only thing worse than theseus is the witches circle

[tepid plover]

i rather deal with 10 witches circle than listening to theseus

[runic parrot]

i'd rather fight 5 power couples than theseus

[plucky pike]

i had one run where he didnt talk and i wanted to celebrate somehow

[grand crystal]

;w;

yall so mean to him

like yea ik he sucks but like, i at least respect him

[tepid plover]

hes mean to asterius

[runic parrot]

i dont think he's a bad character

[tepid plover]

so he deserves it

[runic parrot]

i do not like fighting with him

[tepid plover]

i love beating him

[plucky pike]

he is good character, his character makes me mad

asterius deserves better T-T

[runic parrot]

why

[grand crystal]

and yet he chooses theseus

[heavy hound]

Yes

[runic parrot]

i think they have a pretty solid relationship

[heavy hound]

Yes he does

I mean theseus killed asterius

[runic parrot]

barring the fact taht theseus killed him

postmortem they seem to be getting along fine

[plucky pike]

naw, theseus doesnt listen to anything asterius says

[tepid plover]

cause he believes he owes him

[brazen lagoon]

i think theseus and asterius have a very solid relationship

[tepid plover]

well theseus forces that

[plucky pike]

give me the option to change asterius('s?) contract T-T

[tepid plover]

well asterius doesnt have a contract

isnt forced by hades

[plucky pike]

i think he does tho right

[runic parrot]

they're both just vibing in elysium

[plucky pike]

like theseus had hades bring asterius out of erebus

[runic parrot]

hades does order them to fight zag but i think they just want to

[grand crystal]

theseus convinced hades yea

but no actual contract was made i dont think

[plucky pike]

ye possible

talk to theseus for 10 minutes or fight 1000 flamewheels

[grand crystal]

theseus

wanna see how he's doing

be nice to him for once

[runic parrot]

no

[tepid plover]

bring me the flamewheels

[grand crystal]

like i felt so bad after zag was like "no i dont want your autograph"

[runic parrot]

i think he is very well written and insufferable

and that's a good thing

i liked playing couples therapist with him and his bf though

bf = bull friend

[plucky pike]

I like him as a character in the game, i have a passion for disliking him tho lol

just ran into asterius mini boss, epic w

"you must take pleasure in having to fight against me, short one. I, too, have come to look forward to it. Even if I end up falling to your strength."

like what a G

[brazen lagoon]

i dont get all the theseus hate tbh

[fast depot]

True

[brazen lagoon]

i disliked him at first sure but ive come to actually like him lol

[plucky pike]

hes just a piece of work and i dont like how he acts with asterius

[fast depot]

Horse dude better tho

[brazen lagoon]

personally i think theseus really appreciates asterius as a friend and vice versa

[runic parrot]

^

love their relationship

[acoustic quartz]

theseus beat me up a lot and kinda annoying but thats kinda his charm imo

[charred anchor]

can u be friends with asterius eventually

[charred anchor]

i love him because i think he's hilarious

whoever voiced him went all out, 10/10

[narrow hemlock]

tbh given how asterius is characterized, i think he would be personally offended by anyone wanting to separate he and theseus

he respects theseus deeply, regardless whether zag or the player does

[charred anchor]

yeah but i still wanna be friends w him

[narrow hemlock]

and on some level asterius keeps theseus grounded, too. asterius is the only one that can really talk theseus down from being more ridiculous than usual, but you see that at play later on. their respect for one another is fairly genuine and you do see theseus apologize if asterius calls him out on stepping out of line with him

just because zag or the player doesnt like theseus doesnt mean asterius is miserable with him :)

[charred anchor]

i feel like people dont realize that theseus literally kept asterius from being condemned to the pits of tartarus

[plucky pike]

dang i was trying to do the all mirror talents prophecy and missed one

how do you keep track of no. of fish caught again

[charred anchor]

also do i have to hold onto the fish instead of giving them to the chef to fulfill the prophecy

[runic parrot]

no

i dont think so

[narrow hemlock]

turn them in, the game still counts them

[charred anchor]

oh awesome

[narrow hemlock]

i think someone else has said you lose fish after a number of runs if you dont turn them in but im not certain if thats actually a thing or not but the game counts turned in fish

[charred anchor]

ive been holding onto them to give to poseidon

and zagreus is always like "the head chef will want these fish" and i feel bad

[narrow hemlock]

there is pretty much zero reason to not turn in your fish lmao no worries

[runic parrot]

poseidon only cares if you caught them

he doesnt want days old stinking fish that zag keeps in his toga

[narrow hemlock]

rotted underworld fish zag has been dragging through asphodel

[covert mason]

Yay, I completed all the prophecies! I'm hoping more will unlock hehe, but I think that's the end of it

[charred anchor]

nice!!

[runic parrot]

maybe they're baked because of asphodel.

[covert mason]

thanks ^_^

[runic parrot]

is the river phlegethon actually lava or is it just very hot water

[charred anchor]

its magma

[plucky pike]

if you kill a enemy by hitting it off the land, it says magma kill

[narrow hemlock]

it was described in myth as being on fire as well so very much lava

[charred anchor]

why does zag carry his sword over his neck like that hes gonna decapitate himself

[plucky pike]

for the same reason i carry scissors up when i walk

[runic parrot]

he's just awesome like that

[grand crystal]

lmao

[grand crystal]

the over the shoulder thing??

thats kinda a generic pose for sword characters

[plucky pike]

so dios heart for me is still locked, even though i got the dialogue about giving out nectar a lot with him, is this like a glitch or do i need to give out more ambrosia too? i think ive given out 8 ambrosia so far

also how good is the music when you get on the barge of death

[narrow hemlock]

dio has multiple dialogue about gifting. if the heart didnt unlock you havent seen the right one yet

[plucky pike]

bet thx

[plucky pike]

im in the middle of a run with the goal to fulfill two prophecies, and am in styx rn and it looks like if i beat hades im gonna beat 4 actually by chance and I got the erebus achievement, v nice

[runic parrot]

i wanna fish inside erebus

what kinda fish gets to be damned into eternal punishment

[plucky pike]

im at 18 escapes and still dont have a surface fish

and now there is only one spot

[grizzled jay]

Just got a paddling, never again.

i say this, but im 100% gonna do it again

[plucky pike]

oh yeah also fighting ||charon|| is so fun (ik spoilers are redundant but still gonna put it in brackets as its a secret boss)

[grizzled jay]

Good maN LOL

[wooden karma]

|| so I just reached the nymph for the first time. Wow this game is already too good||

[plucky pike]

just got 19 titans blood at once LOL

[tepid plover]

worst case scenario, hes back at home, hes not worried

[plucky pike]

lol TRUE

[wooden karma]

Like the song is un-ironically probably the best thing I’ve heard in a while

[charred anchor]

YEAH i almost cried its so good

[wooden karma]

Man I got to leave the room to continue the game

[plucky pike]

i am very much thinking of spending 2 diamonds on the barge song for the music stand cause its so good

[wooden karma]

0/10

the combat is also as good as people say

[charred anchor]

the songs on spotify lol

[wooden karma]

Aight

[plucky pike]

i got a lot of hades in an ost playlist i got

[charred anchor]

im very much not a gamer, the only games ive played are stardew valley and hades

both of which i got really into

[plucky pike]

ive played a lot of games but i have a hard time finishing them

[wooden karma]

This game and ultrakill are the best things Ive played on pc rn

[plucky pike]

just finished black mesa and I really enjoyed it

[wooden karma]

Tf2, TFL2, and dota are also pretty cool

[charred anchor]

i love the combat in hades bc its so satisfying yk

it makes you feel badass

[craggy barn]

"i'm so close to the end, but you know what i'm just gonna take a break for now"

hasn't opened it in 5 months

[wooden karma]

unga bunga cookie clicking to satisfy the neurons
except bow

[plucky pike]

fr

[wooden karma]

Bow requires too much thought

[plucky pike]

i open witcher 3 and play for a couple days and really like it and then i just dont open it back up

[charred anchor]

spear is my least favorite i hate it

[craggy barn]

achilles cast builds are great

[wooden karma]

Spear throw is weird, but it still plays better than bow for me

[plucky pike]

i just love aspect of zeus shield

[wooden karma]

I assume the totally legit gun would mesh better

[charred anchor]

best shield aspect def

demeter fists + draining cutter is amazing

i wish i could use fated persuasion on daedelus hammers so i could get draining cutter every time

[wooden karma]

Alright. I gotta leave the best room in Hades sadly. Ttyl

[craggy barn]

draining cutter of dem fists is kinda.....................,,

eh

[charred anchor]

its worked very well for me

[craggy barn]

i mean the enemy is probably already dead by the time you realize your cutter is charged

[runic parrot]

draining cutter in general is eh

explosive upper would be better

[plucky pike]

is there a way to speed up finding hidden aspects

[charred anchor]

im p good at keeping track of it

[plucky pike]

ive only found the sword and spear so far

[craggy barn]

kinetic launcher and explosive launcher are super good on dem fists

[charred anchor]

i also like long knuckle w any fist aspect

[icy island]

damn, i just had a super good run, like full god run, but it was my first time fighting hades so i got around half way second phase and died :(

[prisma wind]

Pretty good for a first try!

[charred anchor]

youll get em next time

[plucky pike]

similar story here
i was trying to do all of skellys prizes back to back,
8 heat no problem
16 heat was harder but i didnt lose any death defiances against hades
32 heat was so dang hard but i got to hades, died with less than 25% of his health left T-T
after doing the 32 heat once its hard to want to do it again lol

[craggy barn]

meanwhile once i did 32 heat for the first time i just went and did it with all weapons

[plucky pike]

also the doom and weak duo with a doom attack is so good

just unlocked dios heart bless

i only need to unlock poseidens now for ||the epilogue||

i am so bad at fishing oml

its harder for me to fish in hades vs real life!

[grand crystal]

you dont need to unlock all of em

i still dont have dem, hermes, or zeus

and i got it a while ago

[plucky pike]

yeah its just the others are at 1 heart and poseidon is at 6 for me

[brisk trail]

Gosh I didn’t know hades had a SECOND PHASE

[plucky pike]

does the river denizens codex not fill out for anyone else?

[plucky pike]

FR

[brisk trail]

I was celebrating “LETS GOOO I FINALLY BEAT HADES ONCE” then here he comes

Second phase

[grand crystal]

hehe lol thats how i felt when the fight cam out in early access

and back then it was harder

[plucky pike]

ok ||excalibur|| is so cool lmao

[grand crystal]

ah, im not a fan but you do you

[plucky pike]

i just like how it looks lol

[grand crystal]

lol

i think its too bright

and too blue

needs more gold

and like i dont enjoy the speartip edge

unless im remembering wrong

yea im wrong

the blade itself is fine

im just not a fan of the glowing pale blue

wish it was more actual metal yk??

[plucky pike]

i can see y ud like it that way

[grand crystal]

yeaa

tbh i love how both of the achilles spear and chiron bow look

[dusky wedge]

I was more off put by it’s size

[grand crystal]

they both are just so pretty and a beautiful color

hehe

[dusky wedge]

It’s so big

[grand crystal]

zag is short i think

and kinda a twink

so like idk

dem fists look cool as hell ngl

and both rails(not luci) look cool

[wise sparrow]

true

[runic parrot]

shortness does not a twink make

he's a manlet

but far from a twink

..wait. is he

[grand crystal]

i think he twink tho

[runic parrot]

sorta??

he's halfway there imo

[grand crystal]

3/4 :3

its just the absolout muscles that keep him out of it

[runic agate]

Not really

[plucky pike]

I just caught a fish in chaos, i was like IS THAT A POINT

[grand crystal]

ik the models arent to scale but idk

id imagine zag being like 5'6" - 5'8"

[runic agate]

Yeah

[plucky pike]

short

gotem

lol

[grand crystal]

yea short

lol

you really did getem

[plucky pike]

ya bois 6'4"

[runic agate]

Then again I'm 13 and 5'4 although my parents are both really tall

[grand crystal]

im like 5'11"

and id like to think im taller than zag

since he seems short

[plucky pike]

also im so confused witht he river denizens

[grand crystal]

what about??

[plucky pike]

why are there 7 spots in the codex and only some fish fill it out

[grand crystal]

cuz theres 3 fish per region

common, rare, more rare(i dont feel like trying with words)

[runic agate]

Lmfao

[grand crystal]

theres like 12 slots wdym

wait

15

15 slots

if i can count

[plucky pike]

oh im dumb

for some reason i didnt see the arrow or something

[runic agate]

I havent seen you guys before are you new-ish?

[plucky pike]

i dont know how i was so dumb there

and uh

ye

i got the game a couple days ago

[runic agate]

I've been here a while

I wouldn't say I'm an OG

[grand crystal]

ive been here since early acces

[runic agate]

Oh

[grand crystal]

i took like a 2 year hiatus for personal reasonsn

and im back

[runic agate]

Oh

[grand crystal]

giving advice no one asked for

[runic agate]

That's quite a while

[runic agate]

I think that's all of us at this point

I've been here like 3-4 months

[grand crystal]

lol

[runic agate]

I have no idea why but I started being a massive meme just cuz I made my name E and said E all the time

[grand crystal]

sounds about right yea

something weve all done at one point in sure

not specifically E but like

you get the gist

[runic agate]

There were a few people who near worshipped me for this lmao

[grand crystal]

oh

damn

thats a lot of power at ones disposal

but yea i hope you enjoy it here

we try our best to be helpful

[runic agate]

I took a break for like a month recently

Since I stopped bplaying hades for a little

But I recently started back up

[gaunt tapir]

Welcome back

[brisk trail]

dude

I love Hades

[gaunt tapir]

He is pretty chill

[brisk trail]

but get thia

this*

[plucky pike]

i just lost a death defiance for that dang greater call in a trial achievement

had to let the brightswords keep respawning

9 achievements to go for 100% tho

[gaunt tapir]

Nice

[plucky pike]

ive had the game for 5 days lol

im a crazy person

ive got a level 6 trippy shot with Beowulf and its doing 1200 damage bull rushes LOL

"You presently shall find I'm no mere giant lizard, boy." LMAO

[upbeat kraken]

Okay I am beyond frustrated with my favorite goddess right now. I know it's been said, but there is something seriously wrong with the RNG for Fully Loaded. I came into styx with all three requirements. I rolled for Artemis on three doors in a row and nothing. It's such a bummer. I'm like 180 runs on this save file and I think I've only gotten it like 4 times. I'm willing to cop to a fair bit of bad luck but COME ON!

[grand crystal]

oooff

i feel that tho

and tbh i think the only things that help is having cores filled and the mirror buff to chances

outside of that i also struggle to get it

i feel like some rarities are just all over the place

like i can get the ares doom boons right off the bat, but blown kiss never shows up

[brisk trail]

Newish to the game, but I'm guessing you're running gods' legacy instead of gods' pride? Bonus 10% for legendary probably makes a big difference

[grand crystal]

yea it def does and most people do on low heat

once you start going high heat its better to take the %epic

[upbeat kraken]

Oh wow, yeah, blown kiss was the other one that took forever on the prophecy. Given how seldom I use the Aphro-cast, I think I only got that the once. But I go for Artemis cast builds all the time, so no excuse there.

Also @brisk trail I do have pride up!

[grand crystal]

rng just hates some boons tbh

idk if its something weird in the code or just the numbers suck

[brisk trail]

pride is for epic, legacy is for legendary boons

[upbeat kraken]

Needs a tweakin'

Wait, I've been typing not playing, let me verify...

[grand crystal]

tbh instead of names for mirror i just say alt blank

[upbeat kraken]

Legacy! I have the one that's supposed to give me bonus chance to legendary

It's no help

[brisk trail]

weird, just got really bad luck it seems

[grand crystal]

the legendary for atre is a jerk to ngl

some boons just suck to get

[plucky pike]

i hate aspect of guan yu wow this is bad

the health trade off

[upbeat kraken]

I mean I get it, it's a little bit OP having 5 stones so she should be a little coy about it, unlike say, Poseidon who seems to trip over himself to give me Second Wave. But no dice 3 times in a row when I'm 150% qualified is some frustrating stuff.

[brisk trail]

From the wiki, it becomes more bearable once you've upgraded it fully roundy. Still, seems hard to get off of aspect of achilles for me. Damage buff is awesome

[plucky pike]

dang

[grand crystal]

yea i hate all legendary aspects besides rama

all are either too slow, too niche, or feel like a downgrade

[rapid forum]

hidden fist is great if you wanna do dash only run

[grand crystal]

again

niche

[plucky pike]

yeah im using guan yu and doing specials only

which wont end well

especially with how much health i have

[brisk trail]

I haven't upgraded much, but it seems like one of the ones that's a ton better at level 5. 2/3 more hp compared to level 1

[karmic trellis]

Fun Fact: Back in Ancient Greece they declared war on poseidon so they just started stabbing the water.

inb4 the dlc

[rapid forum]

I don't know the legitimacy of Caligula declaring war on Poseidon

[plucky pike]

so i have caught 25 fish, and i caught one on a run and talked to poseidon for the first time after catching it, STILL LOCKED (Does it have to be in the same room?)

i am so confused

[night leaf]

Pretty sure Poseidon won in that case

[formal shuttle]

Finally got the credits rolling today! ✨

[sacred mural]

I wanted to update for a while that finally finally I got past Hades 😄 it was so hard for me, but here we are, I think I'm now on 5 clears
the game really keeps on giving!!

[covert mason]

Yay that's awesome, congrats! What did you think of the song? I love it so much!

Btw, does anyone know if there's a set order to Orpheus' songs?

[quiet canopy]

with rifle what is doing main damage bullets or the bomb

which is better to build ?

[runic parrot]

building the rail is very dependent on what aspect it is

[half zephyr]

mhmm

[runic parrot]

they're radically different in how you want to set them up (ok maybe not that different but still)

[half zephyr]

I like to put doom on my attack though for stacking later on

[runic parrot]

but in general, zeus on attack seems to be what some people here like

[covert mason]

Doom on attack if using merciful end

[runic parrot]

apart from the hestia aspect where you want to buff up the attack dmg

[half zephyr]

haven't done Hestia yet =w=
I like Eris so far

[quiet canopy]

which one is best for dps on rifle

[half zephyr]

idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quiet canopy]

what is meaning of absorbing specials blast ? on aspect of eris

[half zephyr]

you stand where special lands & then your attack is stronger after for x amount of time or hits

can't rememeber exact wording

[quiet canopy]

after it explodes on me my attack is stronger for 4 sec right?

[half zephyr]

mhmm

still works as a regular special too

[runic parrot]

eris is very powerful and works well for crowd control

its one of the top choices when speedrunning

two powerful hammers you can add to it are rocket bomb and cluster bomb

[half zephyr]

very fun

[runic parrot]

rocket decreases the time the special has to travel, cluster makes more special blasts

[half zephyr]

I've found that the one that makes enemies targeted by special slower is neat too

[sacred mural]

any tips on how to use the bow? it's the only weapon i avoid like fire but i really want to have a clear with it

[half zephyr]

there's many in here who have lots of opinions on the bow that could help you

not sure if they're awake though

I've had some success with Chiron

[sacred mural]

i can ask later in the day

[half zephyr]

and yesterday got my first clear using Hera

[brittle canyon]

Hey nerds

[runic parrot]

you really don't wanna stand and wait for powershots

what you want to do is to keep dash striking

[half zephyr]

that became my problem with Hera

[runic parrot]

powershots are faster to pull off if you dash strike

[sacred mural]

👀 hmm i'll test it out
i just feel like the damage is too low

[runic parrot]

its definitely one of the harder ones to master

[half zephyr]

I was following lytes instrucions & got.. I don't remember name

[runic parrot]

next to sword imo

[half zephyr]

it made power shot load faster but become stronger

[sacred mural]

sword is awesome !!

[half zephyr]

sword is easy

[runic parrot]

sword is easy to use and has a high skill ceiling

[half zephyr]

nemesis is nice

[runic parrot]

if you want to go fast there's a specific rhythm you have to get into

[half zephyr]

true

[rapid forum]

ye

[runic parrot]

otherwise you're wasting time with the animations

[half zephyr]

Hera will get you powerful shots

[sacred mural]

yeah true
my fastest clear was 20 seconds on theseus and asterius lol

[runic parrot]

but it is a beginner friendly weapon at lower heats

[half zephyr]

you'll need bloodstones & a nice cast though

aphys is great

[runic parrot]

i think some are even more beginnerer friendlier though

[half zephyr]

shield cuz block

[rapid forum]

poseidon sword is beginner friendly

[sacred mural]

alright 👀 i've been running with Not So Fun darkness mirror settings lately to get prophecy fulfilled.. so maybe if i retune, i'll have more fun

[rapid forum]

cause it's a range weapon

[half zephyr]

apart from having to unlock it

[rapid forum]

true

[half zephyr]

ye, I didn't run alternate mirror settings until I could max or near max them

[runic parrot]

poseidon used to be my favourite aspect until i switched to zeus gang

[formal shuttle]

Yes! I literally had chills from the song. So good!

[rapid forum]

it's a range weapon that just so happen able to melee

[half zephyr]

you can unlock innstrumental version to play in the house

think it's 5 diamonds