h1-discussion

[shrewd helm]

I'm trying to get the prophecies that give titan blood

[dim herald]

With hestia if you get triple shot does the empowering stack ?

sorry Eris

[grand crystal]

no

you just have more b o m b s

so easier to prock

[undone moat]

cluster rocket 😂

[runic parrot]

cluster bomb is a bit better for it

its more spread out so you have an easier time getting hit by the blasts

[runic parrot]

god i wish it stacked though that would be wild

[grand crystal]

im remebering a cluster bomb posiedon special run

the game lagged a lot

[undone moat]

yea for blast is normal cluster

for damage is cluster rocket

[shrewd helm]

Ah dang. I accidentally grabbed the wrong companion

[undone moat]

I hate doing trial rooms with cluster bomb cause I can't see where the god is gonna attack

the whole floor is either explosion of target mark

[dim herald]

I feel like the game gets easier after you unlock more stuf

[grand crystal]

for sure

[undone moat]

for sure

[dim herald]

and I am progressing slowly

[grand crystal]

i can beat the game with 1 dd easily

[dim herald]

But i can also see the game developing what i call Dead Cells syndrome where you unlock too much and cant get the stuff you actually want due to RNG

[grand crystal]

i wouldnt say that, you have ways to influence it

[dim herald]

oh ...

do tell

[grand crystal]

trinket s

[undone moat]

fated persuasion

[grand crystal]

^^

[dim herald]

ah

[grand crystal]

fated authority

[undone moat]

also the list of boons offered by gods is always the same since start of game

[grand crystal]

and like i think the chance for lvl 2s is relativley high

[dim herald]

I usually use chaos egg for first too areas than switch to harpy duster for later on

[undone moat]

so you don't really unlock more stuff and get crowded by rng

[grand crystal]

then yea you have like no influence on the run

[dim herald]

so you want to use the specific gods keepsakes

to get higher chance of their boons to proc

[undone moat]

yes getting the right build is quite important

[grand crystal]

i take god trinkets for first 2 areas, then a 3rd god trinket if im feeling it and them blosom in styx or elysium

[undone moat]

I use 2 trinkets, 3rd can be purse, blossom, egg, or even sigil

Styx is usually tooth probably

or acorn

[dim herald]

Typically do you use Chaos ?

I have noticed that the buffs are very hit and miss

[grand crystal]

no, i never use chaos

[runic parrot]

at higher heats i just do acorn from aspho all the way through

[grand crystal]

i take him if the other rooms are blue laurels

[runic parrot]

them

[dim herald]

not sure what that means

[brazen lagoon]

them

[dim herald]

blue laurels

[runic parrot]

blue laurels are the boons that are permanent upgrades

[grand crystal]

like gems, darkness, keys, nectar

[runic parrot]

darkness, gems, etc

[undone moat]

I use chaos if I am feelingspicy, the other options are bad, if I can take the penalty (e.g. bad if it's right before boss)

[dim herald]

ah

[runic parrot]

gold laurels are the rewards for your run specifically

boons, coins, poms, etc

[undone moat]

or if I need it for build, e.g. cast build or special spam build

[dim herald]

It seems mostly that chaos only really works if you have the egg to avoid health damage or something for good regen

although if your farming for upgrades he usually has something that makes gems worth more

and than you dont encounter any more gem rooms the rest of the run

XD

[grand crystal]

i just say screw it i have cthonic vital and do it anyway

[undone moat]

they are good when you're doing physical damage cauee of the % multiplier

if you start with 100 hp it's fine to take the chaos in tartarus

[brazen lagoon]

they

[undone moat]

my bad

[grand crystal]

hehe "they is"

[undone moat]

😂 😂

[grand crystal]

love english

amazing language

[brazen lagoon]

they is good

[karmic trellis]

why am i in may

[dim herald]

Grammar died with IM and TXT most people read English phonetically now a days and when people point grammar problems online in a casual chat its a good assumption that they have a stick inserted someplace the sun don't shine

[undone moat]

in... hell?

sounds like Hades tbh

[dim herald]

I am sure that is one of the punishments down there

[dim herald]

I have usually avoided them but does taking a Trial of the Gods have any lasting effect on how often a boon shows up or is it just you get two but have to fight for it

[grand crystal]

its just 2 but you have to fight i think

it may have some influence over duos in that room but i always do it since 2 boons

idk for sure tho3

and i mean funny dialogue

[dim herald]

I was wondering because I have not seen Poseidon for a long time and I remember ignoring him in a few trials xd

[grand crystal]

yea i dont know if it has a deciding factor

and i hope not

since i take those rooms whenever i can

[dim herald]

huh probibally just a fluke than

[grand crystal]

but its good to take them if you feel confident and make sure the one thats mad is easier to deal with

like i never take ares 2nd, i get him first since his rage is dummy hard

[dim herald]

I have also noticed Artemis shows up ALOT after I started going for alot of crit builds

I remember Aphrodite making a comment along the lines of dont you dare reject me XD

than i friendzoned her anyway

[grand crystal]

niiice

whenever i make artemis angry it makes me feel bad

like the dialogue just hits hard

[dim herald]

Artemis is one of the nicest

I also like Dionysus because he is basically the Frat Bro and throws the best toga parties

[grand crystal]

dio is such a bro

[snow rivet]

yup

his hangover also stacks, so he's op

[dim herald]

Ares is a straight up sociopath

[grand crystal]

i dont find hangover to be good ::/

[snow rivet]

but doom is crazy good

merciful end is crazy tough

[dim herald]

@fleet olive I got Ice Wine once which was pretty good

combines hangover with cold

[snow rivet]

divine dash is a boon i use alot

[grand crystal]

that didnt ping me, i think you just pinged a random person

[dim herald]

So is there a trick to getting combos or is that just a random thing that happend

Damnit discord

[grand crystal]

for duos??

those just need you to fill a pre req of certain boons from both gods then its just chance

[dim herald]

ah

[snow rivet]

after the pre req u still need RNG

[dim herald]

It only ever happened once

[vapid narwhal]

there is a mirror talent that increases duo chances

[grand crystal]

it also increases legendary chances so i always take it

[strange beacon]

thanks hades devs for cross saves

i am so happy rn i am playing my save file from my pc on my switch because my pc isn’t working atm

[brisk trail]

yes the cross saves is amazing, and the switch version is perfect IMO

[grand crystal]

yea i love having hades on the go

[brisk trail]

I prefer the controls on switch vs keyboard, much easier maneuver for me

one of the main reasons I bought the switch version is I was having trouble dodging properly with mouse and keyboard when things get really hectic, with a controller its easy af

like I always assumed a controller would be worse for Hades and Diablo but I actually always am able to live longer on switch than pc for both games

[vapid narwhal]

or just use a controller on PC

[pearl saddle]

Heeey I just realized something weird ||Tisiphone|| has started saying Zagreus more than Murderer

[grand crystal]

im on run 69 and she has yet to do that

it might be since i never die to her but idk

[pearl saddle]

Yeah im on like 170 sooo

and ive completed 10 runs

[grand crystal]

well gn yall, i need sleep

[brisk trail]

Would it be worth it to start a new play-through just for the sake of listening to all of the dialogue audios? For some dialogues I would just quickly read then skip and sorta regret it

[pearl saddle]

eh

if u doin that play on Hell mode for a fun challenge

[brisk trail]

yee im prob just gonna listen to them all from now on

yee i forgot about hell mode

[pearl saddle]

I always listen to the entire thing and then think "My 2 brain cells just waited to consume all this dialogue and I don't understand what the heck they said"

[brisk trail]

i just wish i cherished all the dialogue in the beginning a bit more but i can do that in hell mode

i love the dialogue it helps me get into it

[pearl saddle]

Yeah the dialogues really good but a small brain like me can't understand it

[brisk trail]

its one of the reasons i loved pyre so much

like every playthrough was a brand new story to unlock at the end

[versed verge]

ive been rewatching the game awards and like man... hades was so robbed with some of it's awards but man im glad it won some things

[brisk trail]

I haven't watched it cause i knew TLOU2 would win and everyone knows thats BS just the SJWs forcing it

[strange beacon]

tlou2 xd

good game

but not

goty

especially over hades

[brisk trail]

I mean TLOU1 is BORING

it's like OH ZOMBIES AHHHHHHH like we all played L4D right??

[strange beacon]

well t

[brisk trail]

it does nothing special lol

[strange beacon]

those are different

[brisk trail]

TLOU1 was so boring i have no desire to play 2 nor do i care about it

for the story or the gameplay

[strange beacon]

L4D is very gameplay focused while TLOU was more story drivin

lol language !!!!

[brisk trail]

sorry

[versed verge]

im pretty sure people mainly labeled as sjws disliked the game lol

[brisk trail]

well something fishy about it winning all i gotta say

[strange beacon]

true

[versed verge]

i agree but i dont blame it on "sjws"

[strange beacon]

but it’s still a good game

[brazen lagoon]

I mean it was bound to win a ton of awards anyways

[zinc elm]

Those awards have been a sham for years and years lmao it's nothing new

Since the very inception of the awards it's been a marketing tool

[brazen lagoon]

Sequel to critically acclaimed game and its by naughty dog

[brisk trail]

i always blame the SJW

[brazen lagoon]

Would've sweeped regardless

[zinc elm]

Same as literary awards

[brazen lagoon]

Only good moment was when GoW won goty

[strange beacon]

the game awards are fun to watch for the trainwreck of awards and a ton of cool announcements

[brazen lagoon]

Like 2 years ago

[versed verge]

dangerous route and a slippery slope tbh

[brazen lagoon]

At least hades didn't walk away empty handed

[versed verge]

yeah for sure glad it won some awards

[runic parrot]

the only redeeming part about game awards this year was when they announced a new among us map during it

[brazen lagoon]

Won best action and best indie

[versed verge]

but it totally deserved more

[runic parrot]

that was kinda hilarious

[zinc elm]

Having a boogeyman to blame for everything is easier than to go through actual introspection and analysis

[brazen lagoon]

A mongoose

[strange beacon]

smash reveal and perfect dark lol

[versed verge]

that's a dangerous ideology but probs not relevant for this channel

[strange beacon]

the game from the L4D devs looked pretty cool (literally just L4D 3 lol)

[brazen lagoon]

Why actually think about who's at fault when you can just blame a specific group for all your problems

[brisk trail]

lol a dangerous route and slippery slope cause if you dont agree with everything an SJW says they "cancel" you yeah i know

my online reputation will be ruined forever lol

[strange beacon]

huh

ok

[brazen lagoon]

You're just an ass in general

[strange beacon]

lol

[zinc elm]

are you someone at all lmao

[brisk trail]

nope

[brazen lagoon]

The classic 'sjws ruin everything lol' person

[brisk trail]

see

[runic parrot]

what do you guys think is the best zag aspect?

fists is good

[zinc elm]

then who is going to ruin your reputation if you have none to begin with

[brazen lagoon]

Probably watches Ben shapiro destroying sjw videos

[brisk trail]

shield is most OP

you can beat the game everytime with the shield regardless of boons

[brazen lagoon]

Bow is perfect

[brisk trail]

ben shapiro is dumb af

[strange beacon]

shield or lance? i say lance because zag only

[brisk trail]

lol sorry your assumption was wrong

[runic parrot]

what's the bow one do because i dont use that one too much

[strange beacon]

please keep politics outs

[brisk trail]

i didn't bring up politics lol

[strange beacon]

i’m just tryna talk about video games and hades

[brisk trail]

don't like that stuff

[versed verge]

no dangerous cause then you blame marginalized individuals making valid points but because it's something you disagree with it allows hatred to brew which is why i call it slippery slope

[runic parrot]

zag spear is good, i agree

[versed verge]

i like the spear

[strange beacon]

guys please stop talking about politics lol

go somewhere else if you are

[brazen lagoon]

15% crit chance

[runic parrot]

👀

[brazen lagoon]

It procs a lot

[hollow hawk]

zag bow is pretty good

[runic parrot]

that's pretty good

[hollow hawk]

especially with heart rend

[brazen lagoon]

Add that with arte attack and you're golden

It's basically nemesis sword but not sword

[hollow hawk]

i have a dream zag bow build that i wanna try out sometime

[runic parrot]

ever since i started using chiron i cant use the other bows. the auto lock on on the special is just. dang

[brisk trail]

I think shield is the most OP in terms of keeping you safe from damage while still doing good damage

[hollow hawk]

point blank hammer + aphro dash + arty attack + heart rend

[hollow hawk]

ikrr

[brisk trail]

but if you actually want a challenge while still doing a ton of damage prob the bow or the gun

[hollow hawk]

shield is very slow unless youre using hidden shield

which is why i dont like any shield aspect except for hidden lol

[brisk trail]

ive had some insanely high DPS builds with the gun but you're always left open so its a really risky weapon

[runic parrot]

which is ironic because its attack speed is really low lol

[brisk trail]

same with bow

[hollow hawk]

once you get enough clears and practice in, you get pretty good at not yknow dying

so dps instantly becomes much more important than safety

[brisk trail]

yee i feel like now i know the boss mechanics too well and will definitely need to use the punishment that gives them more moves

like the first two bosses are just pushovers now

[hollow hawk]

extreme measures is a very good pact to pick

thing is it doesnt even change the first two bosses that much

the fight doesnt become too hard, after a run or two you'll get easily used to it

[brazen lagoon]

Bosses without EM is weird after a while

[hollow hawk]

yeah

[runic parrot]

i play with hs a lot so em2 arena wrecks me lmfao

[hollow hawk]

i was doing a farming run earlier and non-em lernie was so boring for some reason

[brisk trail]

yee when I used extreme measures the first time Meg was there with 2 other sisters and i was like "no way im gonna kill all 3 of them together..."

[hollow hawk]

thats on you for playing hs smh

[runic parrot]

especially if im playing fists with no hammer that increases range

[brisk trail]

then the fight started and it was mostly just Meg, other sisters would jump in rarely but not nearly enough to make it scary

[hollow hawk]

oh yeah, em2 is hard with meelee only builds

[brisk trail]

im about to do a run with fists and distant memory lol

[runic parrot]

does dodge chance affect magma?

if so thats kinda funny

i know it affects tartarus and elysium traps

[versed verge]

what heat?

[brisk trail]

not sure yet

[hollow hawk]

32 heat, obviously

[brisk trail]

im trying to figure out the exact escape attempt i escaped

41

damn

nah 42

at least the records tell

[runic parrot]

do it on 1 heat but with hs

[brisk trail]

hs?

[hollow hawk]

heightened security

traps deal +400% dmg

so lava deals like 5 damage per tick

and normal tart traps deal like 25 dmg

[brisk trail]

does the reduced damage and speed work on bosses too? from abyssal blood

i actually wanna use the bow cause it has the dark bonus T T

im just gonna do the fist with distant memory next time it gets the bonus lol

[brazen lagoon]

HS is terrible

Absolutely not worth the 1 heat

[hollow hawk]

yes

[versed verge]

love it when a razor blade hits me for 100 hp

[brisk trail]

HS in asphodel would be so horrible lol...

[versed verge]

it is

[brisk trail]

doing it with the bow

and distant memory

[versed verge]

hs with em2 is a awful combo if lernie sits in the wrong spot for melee builds

[brisk trail]

doing HS with bow and distant memory

[runic parrot]

dont say that about my emotional support pact

[brisk trail]

once fists get the darkness bonus ill do fists and distant memory lol

when you use fated persuasion is there a chance the new boons will be upgraded rarity?

or if u get all common boons the reroll will still be common?

[winter harbor]

yeah, people sometimes reroll for rarity so you can get different rarity boons

[noble silo]

i'm doing the pact of punishment rn where you have to clear each area in 9 minutes, so i took the hermes feather keepsake where you get a chance to dodge when you clear an encounter quickly

usually i take the lucky tooth once I get to the temple of styx, but should I keep the feather this time? this is my first time really making use of this keepsake

rn I'm at +23.8% to dodge and move speed

[runic parrot]

are you confident enough to destroy the final boss without an extra life

kind of a waste of the plume if you take it off now

[brisk trail]

thats the real question

[runic parrot]

me personally, if i ever take lambent plume, i usually stick it all the way through

[brisk trail]

i would say the movespeed youll be fine without but all that dodge has gotta be useful for every fight

lol I got dying lament early on and Hades is now Every Extend lol

[noble silo]

I've always used my last death defy in the hades fight so I'm not sure

maybe this time I can get through only using one

well there's a first time for everything! I've died like 60 times already, what's 1 more time if I fail lol

[brisk trail]

tbh i think the more attempts it takes you to beat him the more you get out of the game lol

[pearl saddle]

Difference between encounter and chamber?

[brazen lagoon]

Encounter is having to fight enemies

Chamber is just a chamber

[brisk trail]

i just tested to see if u can die from Chaos reducing ur HP total and u cant, u keep 1 hp

can you prevent going onto the next area by avoiding choosing Charons shop door?

I notice if I choose Charon shop door then the boss is usually next but if i keep choosing other stuff it seems to prolong it until eventually charons shop is the only choice

[brazen lagoon]

Well there's a mid shop

[rapid forum]

there's a set amount of chambers before bosses

[brisk trail]

hmm but i just chose a boon door and it looks like boss is next so i guess there is a point u just have to fight the boss

[brazen lagoon]

Before the boss fight there's an end shop and another room with random stuff

[pearl saddle]

||So I just got the new prophecy to unite the olympians, what's the first step?||

[brazen lagoon]

Forge bonds with most of the gods

[rigid leaf]

guys any tips on how to defeat ||hades with extreme measures||?

[noble silo]

rip, wish I'd taken that tooth with me :(

[vapid narwhal]

each biome has a mostly fixed number of chambers

the only way to differentiate from that is taking Chaos or Erebus gates

15 for Tartarus, 10 for Asphodel, 11 for Elysium and 33 for a full 5 tunnel Styx, for a total of a nice 69

[gaunt tapir]

They knew what they were doing

[loud lintel]

i wonder if that was intentional by the devs

[pearl saddle]

Forge bonds as in give 1 nectar?

Or more?

[brazen lagoon]

Not quite

Like 6 nectar at least + 1-2 ambrosia

[pearl saddle]

FOR EVERY GOD

COME ON

[brazen lagoon]

Most of them

[vapid narwhal]

you only need 6

[brazen lagoon]

'only'

[vapid narwhal]

and not even 6 ambrosia

[gaunt tapir]

You can always trade gems for keys and keys for nectar 🤤

[vapid narwhal]

you only need 36 nectar for heart locks and 6-7 ambrosia in total

which is nothing by the time you get those done

unless you are rushing it by doing nothing else

plus with the dialogue RNG you will need more runs to get the prerequisites anyway

[gaunt tapir]

Smh rng

[craggy barn]

getting 36 nectar is a cake walk

you might as well pass it out to everyone

he'd be paying for more than renovations at the house of hades if that were the case

[pearl saddle]

How many per person?

[dark path]

The heat of his feet make the pots pliable if he doesn't have a dash boon

so they do not break

[brisk trail]

good to know, i prob never would have counted rooms in my head and just assumed it was maze-like cause i somehow gave myself the illusion of going into more rooms than other runs but was prob just how fast i was clearing em

[vapid narwhal]

it depends, some 5, some 6

[brisk trail]

but i guess if i take a lot of chaos gates it can alter the length of runs slightly too

which i do

[craggy barn]

huh, i thought the speedrunning guide there were much fewer chambers. guess i gotta start recounting

[vapid narwhal]

max is 72

[craggy barn]

wait no from my experience tartarus definitely has 12 chambers

[gaunt tapir]

I gave Ambriosa to Charon pog

[runic parrot]

charon was my first pick to give nectars to

he's such a bro

[dark path]

not dusa?

shame

[runic parrot]

that's okay i tolerate every opinion

even wrong ones

[vapid narwhal]

big, huge, gigantic endgame spoiler ||Charon is literally the mastermind behind your escape||

[dark path]

charon gives you material support, dusa gives you moral support

I would take dusa support any day

[gaunt tapir]

Achilles gave you martial support are you kidding

love the guy

[craggy barn]

dusa gives you support by existing

[shut wasp]

I got my 8th and 9th clears today
2 heat achilles spear and hera bow

[craggy barn]

i love her

if you summon her she pogs

[gaunt tapir]

ok

ok

now

[shut wasp]

died in elysium with chaos shield 3 heat

[gaunt tapir]

I did not know you could summon dusa

this is new to me what

[shut wasp]

wait which characters have keepsakes

I have meg

[gaunt tapir]

all of them

[shut wasp]

companions*

[gaunt tapir]

ah

I haven't unlocked any

and I shall leave now as to not get spoiled for more 😰

[sharp fossil]

||Meg, Dusa, Sisyphus, Achilles/Patroclus, Thanatos, Skelly||

[shut wasp]

and is it worth giving more nectar/ambrosia to everyone else

[sharp fossil]

you still get a bunch of story stuff

up to you really

[rigid leaf]

it's worth because you gain a badge near a keepsake from them lol

[shut wasp]

lmao ok then

[runic parrot]

idk why it feels like ive never caught flameeaters recently

its always the lava lobster

[brisk trail]

lol HS is soo horrible

i didn't think it would make the arrows in elysium hit harder but oh boy it does lmao

i shoulda known idk why i didnt think of it...

[runic parrot]

cant live without it

[brisk trail]

yee i honestly wanna just do a run with it on to teach me to avoid the hazards cause its just a huge waste of hearts whenever it happens anyway

[brazen lagoon]

HS in hades fight

Those vases just insta kill you

[brisk trail]

yep

im gonna do a run with it on

i have to

[brazen lagoon]

Have fun

[undone moat]

suffer

[dark path]

I just want to catch the final fishy codex is lacking

I need the rarest one from chaos' realm but I never seem to get a fishing spot down there

[brazen lagoon]

Same

That one fish is evading me

[brisk trail]

whats the max weapon level?

[brazen lagoon]

5

If you're talking aspects

[brisk trail]

HS run again with aspect of hestia

and chaos egg

I LOVE HOW THEY NOTICE WHAT I USE

i honestly cant wait to do a hell run so i can pay closer attention to the beginning dialogue

[zinc elm]

I am a bit tired of high heat elysium being like playing melee

these guys animation cancel, hit out of the animation, hit you while you are behind them

[runic parrot]

i wish lambent plume timer stopped the moment you killed all enemies on the barge

[green maple]

^

[undone moat]

do yall agree that we need more hades merch

[brazen lagoon]

i agree

[craggy barn]

i just want a battie plushie

is it too much to ask?

yeah probably

[undone moat]

when the art style is so cool any merch is gonna be a hit

tshirt plushie bottle etc

[brazen lagoon]

i will buy whatever

so long as it doesnt cost an arm, two legs and a liver

[rapid forum]

it won't

[snow rivet]

we need a multiplayer racing

[rapid forum]

just gonna cost a kidney

[undone moat]

im just imagining the shipping cost

[snow rivet]

dat tru

[brazen lagoon]

im thinking of the exchange rates

crying

[loud lintel]

how does ravenous will work with hera bow?

does it increase the cast damage

[snow rivet]

i don't use bow

[brazen lagoon]

the same as it does with other weapons

[snow rivet]

i know demeter fists though

[loud lintel]

when i load the cast does it count it as me not having bloodstones anymore?

[brazen lagoon]

no

[loud lintel]

oof that sucks

[runic parrot]

@pliant ridge i'm doing the dash-only run right now, and got a common zeus dash as my first boon. this is gonna go great.

i hope i get rare crop

[craggy barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/808254059161190410/unknown.png

[undone moat]

zeus dash is gonna be fun ngl

make the lightning bigger, strikes twice, and you shoot an extra bolt + jolted

[pliant ridge]

Welcome to my world of pain. That clear was definitely not my first attempt

[undone moat]

i want a chibi zag plushie

[runic parrot]

it isnt a fun time when youre literally dealing 10 damage per dash

[pliant ridge]

Yeah. it starts slow

[runic parrot]

hey if i can do a special only lucy i can do this probably

[undone moat]

you dont have td on by chance right

[runic parrot]

of course not

that would be insane

[undone moat]

yea hearing thanatos calling for your life

[brazen lagoon]

i want

[runic parrot]

oh man, power couple in asphodel is gonna be a pain

[pliant ridge]

@runic parrot I hope you get more luck with boons than I did

I got luck enough to get barge in Asphodel

[deep parrot]

I beat the game!
I nolonger belong in #h1-for-new-players ever again for help

I prolly will still go there here and there to help though

take that hades

[undone moat]

pog

[deep parrot]

time to figure out what I can do outside
and def not read this chat until I am done exploring lmao

[brazen lagoon]

have fun

[undone moat]

oh youre in for a ride

[runic parrot]

got triple sisters

won though

just barely.

boons: nowhere to be found

[deep parrot]

OMG
MY MOM IS SO CUTE AND HER HAIRDO

I CAN'T BEFRIEND HER YET? (with nectar) wtf

[brazen lagoon]

you'll see why

[runic parrot]

huh. i couldve actually taken td1 for this

[undone moat]

yea td1 is managable (36mins)

[runic parrot]

my current damaging moves are only common zeus dash and high voltage

pain.

no calls because that would be cheating

[deep parrot]

and now that I beat the game, I am gonna start trying to learn to speedrun it

and ofc come back to my main save

but for now, I'm gonna go try speedrunning it

[vapid narwhal]

what do you even mean by beating the game

epilogue?

[brazen lagoon]

the first escape attempt is just the tutorial lol

the first successful one

[runic parrot]

butterfly ball

dead run

[drifting crest]

Idk why but em1 is easy for me

[brazen lagoon]

you get used to it after a while

might be why

[runic parrot]

actually dead run. hs is my downfall

surprisingly not one of the butterfly balls

[sharp fossil]

HS bad

[runic parrot]

eh

helped me kill the asphodel and elysium fellas real quick

[sharp fossil]

150 damage urns

not worth

[runic parrot]

its not like im running em4

that was fun though

[sharp fossil]

well, not worth until 40+ imo

after that options get pretty limited

[runic parrot]

nah

i always use it for below 20

20-40 i dont use it

[sharp fossil]

below 20 you can do whatever you want ig

barring RI4 or whatever

still don’t think it’s worth it tho

too many things become run enders

[craggy barn]

doing rl4 just to get the 16 heat statue is the ultimatum chad move

[sharp fossil]

yeah, you can avoid them mostly, but if over time you’re losing 10% of your runs to a 1 heat option you can just not take... idk

each to their own

[zinc elm]

just died in heat 32 to satyrs trying to get an extra boon after my extra hp on sd expired, yay

[runic parrot]

painful lernie death

[hushed pumice]

A lernieng experience

[rapid forum]

boooooooooooooo

boooooooooooooooooooooo

[brazen lagoon]

[rapid forum]

[pliant ridge]

[distant estuary]

To anyone from SG: thank you for making a game far outside my usual comfort zone in gaming that I am absolutely in love with

[flat halo]

What’s the best shield

[brazen lagoon]

zeus

[gentle sonnet]

Chaos with Ares Special

[delicate rivet]

Beowulf

Just to add more answers.

Play what you like.

[rapid forum]

Zag

I like shield attack

[manic moat]

chaos shield is best

I used to main shield

but honestly it's not a fast weapon

[rapid forum]

Well

Yes

I just realized my last high heat run with shield was with chaos

[trail pendant]

how does cast work with hidden shield?

do the effects apply to the rush?

[frank tree]

hey can someone help me out i cant seem to unlock hidden aspect of the rail im not getting any more dialogue with Zues anymore and i put more then 5 blood into it and i have it equipped

[rapid forum]

||cast made an explosion at the end of rush||

[trail pendant]

what if I select someone's cast?

how does that work?

for example poseidon

does it make a splash after dashing?

[trail pendant]

equip the zeus keepsake and just wait

[rapid forum]

Yes, it makes splash at the end

[trail pendant]

ok thanks

[frank tree]

yeah i have it equipped and i got mulitple zoons boons without any dialogue

[runic parrot]

trust in the rng gods

[rapid forum]

The only casts that are unchanged are demeter, ares, and dio when it comes to hidden shield

Afaik

[runic parrot]

they're all changed

i think only ares does his usual thing where it sends the blade rift

[vapid narwhal]

blade rift fired by hidden shield and hera lasts shorter btw

so it's not the ideal cast for them

[tight cave]

Lost a 10-run streak to Underworld Customs last night. Purged Poseidon's Aid in the hopes of getting Artemis'.

Artemis didn't even show up.

[runic parrot]

did you at least have arty in your godpool

[undone moat]

that's a yikes ngl

[tight cave]

Nope. And to make it worse, I almost made it. I was literally one hit away from killing the final boss, on 8 health and no death defiances ||for the whole second phase||, and some random thing I didn't even see killed me.

[brazen lagoon]

thats tuff

[trail pendant]

the fates will decide

[brisk trail]

3 LEGENDARY BOONS IN A ROW

2 DUO

2 were duo

This run is going offfff

DIVINE PROTECTION IM LIKE A PALADIN

[rapid forum]

get a purging pool and sell all of them

trust me

you need to obols

[drifting crest]

That moment when you accidentally activate Approval Process and the barred boon is one you need for the prophecy

[stark verge]

Tragedy

[drowsy jetty]

lmfao

[rapid forum]

yes

use your hatred to roll the rng

[flat halo]

Question

What’s the 3rd item to be placed on the carpet

In the west hall

Aside from bone man and planet

[runic parrot]

sundial

[spice cloud]

Anyone know how to get Zeus forge bond?

[runic parrot]

wiki says you have to ||have dialogue about him with the other olympians||

||and also that zeus has expressed his feelings about rekindling his relationship with daddo, which then you have to talk to||

[spice cloud]

I have done that

I've also talked to him about 20 times for any new dialogue

[flat halo]

No, not the sun dial

It is not put on the carpet

Just below the carpet, behind the planet

I’m talking the empty spot above the bone man

Is it the bust

[runic parrot]

i dont remember

dont pay much attention to that part of the house

its probably the bust

[flat halo]

Okay

Eris - Dementer - Nemesis

What to max first

[spice cloud]

Nemesis sword is pretty good

I reccomended that

[craggy barn]

nemesis is very powerful but also hard to handle even if you've got an idea of how to use it well

[drifting crest]

Eris but I'm not very good at sword so idk

[craggy barn]

i can barely get the rhythm of using special and then immediately tearing the enemy apart with dash-attacks but it sure was effective

actually tried it out for the first time earlier and i got double edge in the first chamber

[runic parrot]

nemesis is very effective at high levels of play but the rhythm is hard to get right

esp if you dont use sword that much

[spice cloud]

But other than that, any other advice on Zeus forge?

[craggy barn]

poseidon and nemesis are both very fun to play for a weapon i usually don't enjoy

[runic parrot]

poseidon sword is the GOAT

currently trying to barrel roll with it but i keep dying in the bull fight

[hollow hawk]

i loved poseidon way more than i expected tbh

but then again i did get like 8 cast bloodstones in the run that i tried it out

[craggy barn]

i like true shot with poseidon a lot

[flat halo]

I am still in the mid game

[craggy barn]

it's not the most powerful but it's really easy to use considering you basically can't miss

[flat halo]

So is Eris the best there

[craggy barn]

[flat halo]

The friendship phase, so to speak

[spice cloud]

Eh I don't really use the gun since I don't think it does enough damage

[flat halo]

And achievement phase

[spice cloud]

Only aspect I like is Lucifer

[craggy barn]

hestia and eris both do big damage though and that's a fact

[runic parrot]

eris rail has entered the chat

[craggy barn]

zag is really powerful with spread fire

[hollow hawk]

there is a literal 75% global damage buff on eris rail lmao

???

hello

[spice cloud]

Hi

[runic parrot]

maybe they havent maxed it out yet

[hollow hawk]

oh

yeah that might explain it

[flat halo]

Okay, so I should max Eris then

[craggy barn]

oh yeah the eris buff is also global, which means it affects all damage dealt to enemies

[runic parrot]

the rails are all pretty underwhelming at low levels

base zag rail

[craggy barn]

base zag aspect

[flat halo]

The game sure has a lot of content

And I sure am glad it’s not mandatory for achievements

In game prophecies or global

[runic parrot]

sgg adds new steam achievement where you have to unlock all of the titles

[craggy barn]

alternate reality where there's a steam achievement for 32 heat

[runic parrot]

crank that playtime

[flat halo]

Least

Plz don’t

Don’t make me crank out the steam manager

To bonk that achievement illegally

[spice cloud]

How many hours does everybody have ?

I have around 150

[wise sparrow]

over 4k now 😳

[signal aspen]

just under 100

[hollow hawk]

around 150, yeah

[runic parrot]

ive got just under 200

ive only had this game since the fall sale

i've. wasted so many hours in it

i dont even like roguelikes

[signal aspen]

got hades jan 1st

[spice cloud]

Same

[flat halo]

61 hours

3 hours of afk

20 hours of early access

[signal aspen]

wait why afk

[flat halo]

Ina different save

Left it running

[runic parrot]

3 hours of listening to eury

[flat halo]

Distracted

[signal aspen]

oh ok

[brazen lagoon]

430 something hours

Some of it idle

[flat halo]

Man

Pyre

Wanna replay it

I wonder if the aesthetic of Pyre is similar to Hades

[wise sparrow]

sgg games are fun i remember experiencing bastion for the first time

[signal aspen]

I never played bastion

I was busy playing minecraft

[trail pendant]

Nearly 76

I bought the game about a month ago

[half zephyr]

Uhm.. 55+ >.>
I’ve been busy IRL, plus I got the game at the same time as Immortals Fenyx Rising (where I’m at 95+h) so my time has been split 😅
I’ve only had it since New Year’s Eve or so though 😁

[gritty roost]

near 70 hours, got it few weeks after release

kept getting distracted by other games lol

and the ever looming backlog

[loud lintel]

There's this move where Asterius charges at Theseus and creates a shockwave similar to the final boss's exploding skulls

Never saw that move before until now (100 runs in)

didnt even have EM3 enabled at that time

[craggy barn]

175.1 hours in the past 5 weeks or so

[loud lintel]

is that normal or did something trigger that new move

[wise sparrow]

yes it randomly pops up

it was not innately there for me either

[severe smelt]

Yeah I haven't seen that shockwave early on, either

[wise sparrow]

no idea what triggers it truthfully

[drifting crest]

A bit over 100 hours, probably gonna get more once I'm done with exams

[craggy barn]

asterius might rarely rush towards theseus

which is what causes the shockwave to happen

[severe smelt]

I wonder if early on I fought them separately

while later I fight them together

so it happens more

[runic parrot]

it may happen after (itty bitty side story spoilers) ||you trigger some dialogue about them bickering||

||they make up and come back stronger than ever||

at least that's what i assume. it's very cute tbh

[loud lintel]

oh yeah i went through that already

it was hilarious

that may be it i guess

[runic parrot]

i like the anime-esque move names theseus shouts when he does that

DELTA STRIKE!

[rich acorn]

It's Delta Strike?

I thought it was counter strike

[brazen lagoon]

I thought it was thunder strike lol

[rich acorn]

So I always called it their gamer move

[brazen lagoon]

'Now... time for my Gamer Move™! Prepare yourself blackguard!' - Theseus probably

[runic parrot]

i had no idea blaggard was actually spelt as blackguard

[wise sparrow]

lol

[craggy barn]

you see him say it in his dialogue box almost every single fight

[runic parrot]

well, yeah

that's when i found out

at first i thought "huh, that's an interesting archaic spelling probably" but no it's actually still blackguard

[rich acorn]

And let's not forget ||His maniacal laughter with the chariot||

[unreal shard]

ah it's happening again, ||like that time on sekiro, when u kill that monke then he revive, same thing with hades||

[runic parrot]

god of the dead 3:38

[rich acorn]

||I remember I thought I defeated Hades and was like "YES!" but then he went into phase 2 and annihalated me in about 7 seconds||

[flat halo]

Ah yes

I remember the early access days

When I came back knowing what to expect

Well, let’s just say

Transformation sequence can kill

That’s why villains don’t interrupt transforming heroines

Nemesis vs Demeter vs Chaos: which to max first

[craggy barn]

went from unbearably tanky enemies and 120 heat to whatever the hell 64 heat is

[unreal shard]

guys should i kill hades 10 times to get the other ending ?

[brazen lagoon]

Yes

[lost flame]

yeaaa i like this game " hades " of course....

[brazen lagoon]

Cool

[outer dew]

I was just dancing around my bed and then the second guitar rift starts and im like

[supple lodge]

it vibe checks me that the elysium guys sound like grown men

i know they're technically the spirits of grown men but after enemies that sound like monsters it's a bit of a whiplash lmao

[runic parrot]

what about the flame wheels

[flat halo]

Talos vs Dementer?

[spice hearth]

Demeter all the way

[drifting crest]

Flame wheels are cats

[wise sparrow]

for certain they are kitties

[drifting crest]

That's why they meow when they hit you

[runic parrot]

i dont wanna hurt cats.

why are cats in elysium

[wise sparrow]

theyre already dead

[runic parrot]

did they do battle and die in glory

[supple lodge]

chariots are lions therefore small chariots are cats

[craggy barn]

cats don't need to go to war to end up in elysium

cats are a very proud species

[runic parrot]

valor-stealing much, cats

[pearl saddle]

Will there be a thing to tell me that I did bond with a god?

[outer dew]

Its little picture will show up next to their keepsake

[severe smelt]

Why did lions and cats become chariots.

[pearl saddle]

Will I be unable to give any more to them?

[severe smelt]

And what does that imply about Theseus's chariot.

[pearl saddle]

Because I don't want to over give

[unborn remnant]

nah

you just gift until the limit

[pearl saddle]

Wait, is it the house gods or the olympians?

[unborn remnant]

everyone

literally everyone you can give nectar to

[pearl saddle]

Wait like Achilles too?

[unborn remnant]

yeah

[pearl saddle]

I heard it was only some of them

How much nectar do you need?

[unborn remnant]

Only a few of them give companions

[runic parrot]

doing a dash-only run and got epic zeus dash and epic greatest reflex on the first 2 rooms

[pearl saddle]

Nomo

[unborn remnant]

but you max your friendship with everyone

[pearl saddle]

Not talking bout that

[unborn remnant]

it varies based on the person

[pearl saddle]

Im trying for the ||bond the olympians|| quest

[unborn remnant]

Orpehus takes like 6 while Skelly is like 6 + 3 Ambrosia

[pearl saddle]

Not companions

[unborn remnant]

oh

that I dont know, im still getting there

I think all of them are 6 + 1 Ambrosia

just gift them when you get the chance

[pearl saddle]

I heard that sometimes 2

[runic parrot]

there's some you dont have to gift ambrosia to

but otherwise max them out when you can

its either 6 or 7 for them

[pearl saddle]

I think the person said 36 nectar and 6-7 ambrosia

What are the easiest ||heat|| things so I can grind nectar

(Ambrosia too)

[craggy barn]

td1/mm/bp1/em2

@pearl saddle

[runic parrot]

and hs

[fleet narwhal]

how did you get hermes in tartarus

[runic parrot]

shop

[fleet narwhal]

hermes only appears in the shop before final boss

[runic parrot]

yeah thats where i got it

realllly shouldve done this with a gamepad

[fleet narwhal]

then like what do you mean by first 2 rooms

[runic parrot]

oh

i misspoke

my bad

i meant 2 boons

[fleet narwhal]

oh ok

[runic parrot]

really wished i had another zeus so i could get high voltage but eh

at least i got double strike in aspho

[unborn remnant]

I like the sound design for when you accept a boon

that sound that plays when the gods show up

[hollow hawk]

i like all sound in this game

except the one which comes out of theseus' mouth

[pearl saddle]

L A U G H

[runic parrot]

man

em3 is hard with only dashing

[green dune]

The easiest way for nectar is grind heats you've cleared and grind gems and use gems to buy from the trader

[pearl saddle]

I was talking about ambrosia too

[green dune]

Same tactic

[runic parrot]

might have to knock it down to em2 and even then their fight isnt nothing to scoff at

[green dune]

@pearl saddle I don't think I ever needed to buy ambrosia for relationships, and maxed all relationships before I was heat 5 with every weapon.

[pearl saddle]

MM is tough dood

[pearl saddle]

Also I was trying to get Titan blood so a lot of my Ambrosia went into that

[green dune]

I find em3 easier than normal

[pearl saddle]

Really?

Its tough for me

[green dune]

@pearl saddle that was kinda a mistake to rush titan blood imo, but just buy ambrosia with your gems imo. I grinder titan blood by having golden touch and saving for the store in Styx

I have most aspects maxed, think I'm only missing 3, and I'm at about 11 heat for all weapons.

Think I've only bought 4 titan blood

My house is almost maxed too, so my gem spending wasn't detrimental to my decorating.

[runic parrot]

me too, but i dont usually do dash-only

[green dune]

Yeah, dash only without ideal builds and Pom levels might be hard

For the memes

[runic parrot]

for the memes.

i was doing alright until the timing of em3 rockets threw me off

i forgot they were that fast with fo2 on

[signal aspen]

I have been using hera aspect bow with aphro cast but when i load 3 casts into my bow, only 1 cast lands on the enemy

is this a glitch?

[craggy barn]

i think it might be that the enemy already got killed by the first cast

crush shot does a lot of damage after all

[signal aspen]

nah

i was using it against bosses

only 1 cast lands on them

[hollow hawk]

that is weird, maybe record a video of what is happening and send it in #h1-tech-support

[rapid forum]

so uh

in my last run

I got 4 duos, and 2 legendaries

I don't think I can top this

[hearty ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-hades-game-zagreus-supergiant-games-epic-games-gif-15359052

this is neat

[opaque socket]

nice

[pearl saddle]

How to learn how to play the Lyre?

[vapid narwhal]

interact with the lyre after every run

[green dune]

Just strum it a lot

Do it like 10 times every run.

[pearl saddle]

sounds fun

[rapid forum]

it is

till you make a note out of it

[brisk trail]

🤦‍♂️

[uneven ermine]

You don't need to play 10 times each run to get better at it

I do 2-5 or so

[flat halo]

Question

What’s the most legendary-duo filled run ever

What’s the best companion

[signal aspen]

i would say meg or than

[wise sparrow]

meg is very popular

[outer dew]

Meg is good for speedruns and just good in general

[flat halo]

I see

[brisk trail]

Can u unlock hades room??

[signal aspen]

||yes||

||but it is a spoiler||

[brisk trail]

Nicey

Lol

I got 5 escapes

[flat halo]

Question

Is 3 ambrosia needed

For full bond

[plucky crag]

what is the best weapon

[signal aspen]

nah 4 for most people

1 for gods

[flat halo]

Okay

[signal aspen]

eris rail

[flat halo]

Dependent on playstyle

Chiron Bow is another

Those 2 are what I suggest

For long ranged combat

Focus on dodge and throw in attacks meanwhile

Should I spend ambrosia on Mort

[wise sparrow]

if you like him

[signal aspen]

mort is good

so yeah

but meg is better

[flat halo]

How many to max

[wise sparrow]

it is so sad how you cant meg the furies, the fight that i timeout the most often

[signal aspen]

15 ambrosia

i think

[waxen plume]

i find it hard to hit multiple enemies with meg, any advice?

[flat halo]

.>.>

15

[vapid narwhal]

with what

also chiron requires a lot of blood to be actually good

[wise sparrow]

with bat summon

[flat halo]

This game is a resource hog

[vapid narwhal]

yeah you might want to position it

[flat halo]

It’s gonna be a pain

[waxen plume]

does it always go vertically?

[signal aspen]

im pretty sure its random

[wise sparrow]

its somewhat complicated to explain how meg targets her line

just try it a million times and you’ll understand trust me. pay attention to how you face and the enemy positions and the way megs line goes. it will click i promise

[flat halo]

So I will need 6 nectar and 1 ambrosia

To clear 1 god?

And 6 of them for gameplay purposes, yes?

[waxen plume]

CMIIW u'll need more than 1 after u unlock their prerequisite

[vapid narwhal]

nectar and ambrosia comes easy

especially nectar

[hollow hawk]

it goes parallel to zag's shoulders basically

so in the way that zag is facing

[wise sparrow]

round orange juice vs square orange juice

[hollow hawk]

watch satan's video on how to meg, its on yt

[waxen plume]

i see, thank u so much

[opaque socket]

zagreus: starts coughing as he reaches the surface

me having played RDR2: https://i.imgur.com/tS6dGBe.jpg

[craggy barn]

the companion mort fandom is dying

repost if you're a true mortician

[halcyon oriole]

Anyone know for sure what resolution Hades runs at in docked mode on Switch? I'm seeing it listed as 1080p in some articles, but I don't think that's correct, after comparing how it looks to me to some PC screenshots/footage

[craggy barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/808386008244682812/mort_fandom_is_dying.jpg

[sour sky]

1080p on a tv ain’t exactly gonna look the same as on a computer monitor no?

[halcyon oriole]

Depends on TV settings. There's no specific reason why it shouldn't

my TV isn't overscanning or anything silly like that

and I'm pretty sure it looks a little blurry even compared to footage on youtube played on the same TV

[waxen plume]

hello again... any advice on good exagryph aspect? last run with eris didnt end quite well...

[halcyon oriole]

would need to do more to (possibly) confirm, but it definitely seems that way and I'm reading comments to that effect from others online

I wouldn't care so much, but UI elements and text are already really small for a couch-and-TV setup, so low resolution and resampling are just going to make it worse

[sour sky]

I like hestia for the burst damage

[unborn remnant]

Is there a community name for the Eris Rail + Zeus Attack build?

[craggy barn]

"play lame win game"

[waxen plume]

i'll join that community XD

[unborn remnant]

"Eris Go Brrr"

[narrow bronze]

how do you get the underworld mix of lament of orpheus to play? I've never heard it in all my hours of hades

[craggy barn]

you buy the song from the contractor

[narrow rampart]

Hmm

[craggy barn]

and then play it at the music stand

there's no lyrics and you also can't play the lyre version

[narrow rampart]

no, stand only plys the version with no lyrics

[dire delta]

do heroic rarity boons occur naturally? The only times I've ever seen heroic boons are from certain items or boons that affect rarity

[narrow rampart]

no

only when it replaces an epic boon

[craggy barn]

heroic boons are only obtainable through eurydice/exchanges/rare crop

[narrow rampart]

You randomly get Orpheus singing it, but mybe it's only before they're reunited

I think I only heard it twice

Apperently he can sing it after you give him 1 nectar

[craggy barn]

you need to bring him the sheet music from eurydice first

which somehow doesn't get wet in the waters of the styx when you emerge from it, sheets in... wherever zagreus puts stuff in

[half zephyr]

His clothes maybe - they never seem to get wet or bloody either

[craggy barn]

zagreus does seem quite hydrophobic

his feet never burn out

[half zephyr]

Maybe that’s why big boss burns his cape all the time 🤔
It’s the only way to clean their clothes

Burn it with fire

🔥

[hollow kettle]

you can also carry thousands of gemstones and dozens of glass bottles of liquid around with you so he has somewhere to put things

[unborn remnant]

That's video game inventory logic at work

how are pokemon trainers gonna hold 100+ potions

[halcyon oriole]

maybe his clothes are made of asbestos

speaking of which, is there a reason people make fun of him for having red blood? Is that a thing in Greek mythology?

[waxen plume]

||i suppose that's because gods aren't supposed to bleed, but since he's a quarter mortal/god of blood he can bleed?||

[halcyon oriole]

||How's he a quarter mortal?|| (redacted due to possible spoilers!)

[waxen plume]

have you finished the story?

[halcyon oriole]

... no, whoops

probably should ask fewer questions until then

[waxen plume]

whoops... sorry if i spoiled u

[halcyon oriole]

it's all good

[hollow kettle]

gods in Greek mythology have a substance called ichor instead of blood

[unborn remnant]

That is true

i do remember reading that

[halcyon oriole]

oh, that is interesting

[shrewd helm]

I got 25 titan blood and I dont know which aspects I should invest in

I got a couple zagreus ones maxed

And the hidden ones at lvl 1

[outer dew]

Just invest one in all of them

[shrewd helm]

Nice. That'll get me the prophecy done too

[outer dew]

And decide which one you like the most

[shrewd helm]

I got 12 left

I'll hang onto it for now

[outer dew]

yeah thats what I did

I just kinda hoarded it

[unborn remnant]

i have mine in hera bow, eris rail, chaos shield, zag sword

[copper canopy]

Trying to go for a pure Zagreus run; Zagreus aspect, no boons, and no mirror.

[shrewd helm]

I did the prophecy for all the pacts and got me 15 titan blood.

[copper canopy]

I already did no boons and no mirror separate, time to combine them.

[shrewd helm]

Is there prophecies for those kinds of runs?

Or are you challenging yourself

[copper canopy]

Nope, but some have alternate dialogue

[copper canopy]

Mostly this

[shrewd helm]

Oh nice

[copper canopy]

[shrewd helm]

I'm about to use the aspect of Arthur for the first tine

[brisk trail]

Nice

[copper canopy]

It’s great

[shrewd helm]

It looks like its awesome

Lucifer's aspect was a little hard to use at first

Atleast it felt harder.

[loud lintel]

Some aspects are better lv1 aspects than other

Others

Stuff like Hera Bow and Nemesis Sword are great at lv1

But things like chiron bow and chaos shield only really shine when they're maxed

[unborn remnant]

aspect of arthur radiates ganondorf forward smash energy

[loud lintel]

FO2 w/ Arthur

[rich acorn]

Arthur is super fun