#h1-discussion
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o o f
that's just the bracer
bracer already does that, yeah
he kinda does with achilles keepsake right?
but the bracer actually does something
i was gonna say achilles keepsake
^^
But does blitz disc not do single hits?
what
it does single hits in an area though
wdym
area of effect, is what aoe means
they mean that the zeus shield blitz does single hits, so it should have backstab
do you mean being able to only hit one enemy at a time? because that's definitely not a thing in this game
alright
ugggh none of the four legendaries i still need line up with four DUOS i still need
i have zeus and athenas legendaries!!! just gimme the duo!!!!!
bois i just bought the extreme measures thingy from the contractor
whats that
is that the ||pact of punishment||'s extreme measure
?
Lovely ty
I want to see how far I can get in this game with Pact of Punishment stuff but EM4 may be too big an ask
||heat|| is a spoiler.,,,
That's not how the works bud check the codex and look at what are needed to get the duos you want
nah i meant ‘why can’t the duos and legendaries i still need come from the same gods’
because that’s so much less stressful for gathering prereqs
I've done several runs with 0 legendary and 0 duo
bleh
i have gods legacy maxed so i get them quite a bit thankfully
i also have fated persuasion
i'd consider myself a duo digger
before choosing a god i ALWAYS check the codex to see if they have any good duos to go with the gods i already have
Hell I've done a run that ended with like only 5 boons
might as well go boonless
I don't ever get legendary boons just because I don't care
I also dont have gods legacy on, so theres that
Hades is just a game where I can do what ever when ever
legendaries are more "situational"
I don't need any kind of boons to function
i’m trying to get all the prophecies done as soon as i can
like fully loaded which is only useful if you're doing a cast build
Then just do it spread across many runs amfh
as soon as i can
Not really have more casts with any build is nice
that’s so inefficient thoughhhhh
Prophecies can take a while to do
No one cares
/whine
Just play the game
going for prophecies also falls into "just playing the game"
Yeah, and prophecies are a good meta-goal
Hades is a great game and if you want to 100% it sooooooo fast just so you can stop playing isn't a good way to play
and they can help you find out which boons/gods you like best
doing prophecies means i get to use boons i wouldn’t ordinarily choose
Just enjoy the game
Getting all the different boons once helps inform decisions later quite well
and try different builds
do you just immediately put down a fun game as soon as you 100% it
Trying to gatekeep how people play the game isnt gonna work bud
my completionist little heart wants all the things
there are different ways and approaches to just enjoying a game
also, i’m not very good at these kind of games, so noodling around getting good stuff to help me suck less is fun
exactly
How you enjoy it doesn't mean other people enjoy it the same way
open mindedness is a thing yknow
if i wanted to blast through i’d have piled on the heat by now
which: yikes, no thanks
hades provides many options to enjoy it even after achieving 100%
Very true.
I’m at the point in the game where I’m just going for all the resource sinks while adding on heat and I’m still having a lot of fun
200 runs in, maxed relationships, nearly 70k darkness on my save file for example, and I’m still going to play so much
getting all the titan blood, getting all prophecies, getting all house contractor things
getting all bonds
The || Dionysus and Zag prank on Orpheus absolutely sends me ||
i’ve done one run w the timed heat thing and that was the most stressful omg
im probs gonna sink like ~300-500 hrs in this game before i leave it
340 hours in and I'm still gettin badges
I also only have one prophecy left, I’m holding out on ||the epilogue one|| until a friend gets to it too
Tight deadline is so easy
It is my go to heat thing
||Is there more story after persephone comes back or is that it?||
You should get used to it
time pressures stress me the heck out so bad
Spoiler mark that please!
||tight deadline 1 is normally free heat||
Td can be a bit meh with the shield tho
I’ve only ever run up against real timer issues with ||tight deadline 3||
i did it with... eight minutes or so to go?
||td3 is hell||
Well the game does take place there
||td3|| literally relies on good rng and decision-making
||td1 and td2|| are both pretty chill imo
Also, some prophecies were significantly easier during early access, so I have several duo boons I’ve never gotten but I got the prophecies done before they existed, which is fun
NOOO
I misclicked and picked the wrong boon
Please tell me the Ares and Dio duo isn't that good
Oh it totally is
Argh
f
Definitely one way to break a run
why can you even get cursed slash on hidden sword
that's like the one time where it really sucks
It’s just a dead option whenever it comes up
hoarding slash is also very meh on hidden sword
it works better with zag because of the attack speed
Hoarding slash is additive and not base, right?
i think certain hammers could actually have very slightly altered effects depending on the aspect
Definitely does more with more frequency
like if you're using hidden sword, then it adds 20% of your coin count to your damage instead of 5%
I think the worst thing about hammers are when I’m building around one type of attack and none of the options do anything with it - for example, special builds with the fourth aspect of the spear, and being offered only attack changes
Not being able to reroll hammers makes a lot of sense but still feels unfortunate, though it seems clear to me why that’s not a thing
honestly only having two hammers per run makes not being able to retool them considerably more irritating
*reroll
why exactly can you not reroll hammers?
so that you try out different ones and dont always get the one insane hammer
so you cant just cheese everything
I feel like it’d make fated persuasion the only real option
and that, yeah
And it makes things too easy
true
The anvil serves to fill that niche somewhat, it’s implemented for that reason
||dad|| gets real salty abt his ||mother in law ||if you use her greater call huh
yeah if you have a bad hammer build you can anvil it out
yeah, just found that out today
Also spoiler
somehow he gets more mad about you using ||his mom-in-law||'s power against him than ||his OWN|| power against him
i thought i was being suitably vague to avoid spoiler tagging it
not the mother in law thing, the ||dad|| thing lol
yeah
Well once you're able to use ||his own|| it's because ||the escape attempts are official business||
this is true
||”i hereby release sisyphus from the terms of his pact” “you WHAT”|| i’m cackling
His reactions to house contractor things are all AMAZING
"A sundial, finally? Indeed?"
like is nobody gonna tell him there needs to actually be a sun present for it to work
The sundial works, it clearly reads 7:48
ah, right
i love dionysus
it's always 7:48 in hell
i need two of his duos still so imma have his keepsake for tartarus
Dio is great, I absolutely love his cast
and totally not just because of the candles and lighting all over the house
Duos tend to be rather 'sticky' so if you turn one down it has a pretty high chance of showing up again later 
if you don't need one but there are no other options you can just sell it for big money later 🧠
Aspect of Hera/Trippy Shot/Ice Wine/Scintillating Feast go B O O M
Zagreus has accepted his Fate by standing still and killing Hades.
It took him 3 Hera Bow shots to get to the second phase and 2 Shots with Artemis aid to annihilate Hades.
DMG:
Heart-Seeking Bow with Hera Aspect (Your Cast loads Cast Ammo into your next Attack, firing on impact)
Cast: Tipsy Shot Lvl 7 - 276 Dmg
Chaos: Excruciating Shot +70% C...
oh my god
Yeah that sounds about right
"Why... you... how...?"
ice wine feels sooo good honestly
removes the trippy shot lob mechanic
and chills foes for privileged status
I always build it on hera because it also removes the lob
yeah exactly
wait how does trippy shot interact with hera now?
but i needed crush shot for the dionysus duo anyway it’s fine
It's not changed, I just mean it doesn't spend time in the air, just blasts where you hit
Trippy shot interacts the same way, I was just pointing out that it's easier to hit with using the cast load than the artillery-type lob
It does, it's just fun for it to happen sooner
The ice wine duo is interesting with hera since it's on a slight delay from impact
Is it bad im making a MHA Hades AU because it in my head rent free?
It's so good
why do I suck with the spear so much
The commitment with spin attacks is difficult, but a really useful tech is that you can charge a spin and then dash for a much more useful hitbox
i need merch from Duza
charging your spin while enemies are spawning also works
Once enemies are around you, dash attack is significantly safer and better to use, while special is good against small groups of large enemies at distance
I currently have 6 bloodstones with Hera bow Crush Shot build.
Artemis legendary + Chaos boon.
One shotting Lernie heads.
That's definitely going to do some damage
That's from yesterday but I've paused in between and I havent got back yet, going back soon.
Stygian Soul is apparently better but can you consistently get more stones ?
i started playing spear yesterday and i really like the style
The spear is amazing.
Stygian soul does a lot with even 1 extra bloodstone, which is doable pretty often with fated persuasion and chaos opportunities
Especially Achilles aspect.
I'll try to run with Stygian Soul soon.
Yeah rerolling Chaos choices will help.
I normally use Infernal Soul, but I gave Stygian a try with Hera bow, it's worth giving a shot and seeing if you prefer it for some builds.
potato?
I wonder if they will still release more content updates, or maybe DLC to this amazing game. I can't wait 
extra dash?
do you mean the spear recovery thing?
because that isnt a dash really lol
yea
it's not super easy to use as a good dash
you just lose your attack unless you decide to use it
I like Hades' aspect more
do you have i-frames mid bull rush with achilles?
it still sux tho
can't be that hard to find out i guess
im going to start talking like theseus and I hate it
i keep calling people fiends
the word fiend is rly funny to me
mostly because of the pilotredsun Man's Best Friend video
you jest, blackguard
<demon materializes in room>
oh no. it's a fiend.
Anyone here play with Keyboard+Mouse? How is it?
yes
who here enjoys memeing on ||Hades|| with the ||Sigil of the Dead||
pc=good
yes can relate
it's fine (you just need to adjust 1 or 2 keys, imo).
which ones do you adjust?
That thing is actually legit, not a meme :D
i changed the special, and i don't remember, but probably cast
Raging Rush buff you mean ?
Yes.
no I know I say memeing because you're using his aid against him
Just cleared
I love it lol, ||Hades|| be like ||What ?!|| or ||I'm here !||
I did it just now and it just went ||Zagreus: Father! Hades: Son! (in a "fatherly" tone)||
what about using a greater call against a god in trial
"......What are you doing?"
I think I got that one too lol.
I called Zeus during Zeus trial and he said something like "Its only now that you ask for my help ?"
But it still works I think.
lol
:[
Lol.
oh pog I have 10 nectar should I get diamond
zagreus doesn't even shout "Artemis!"
I'll just say that I regret not handing out nectar like candy earlier on
I wouldn't exchange it for diamonds
until you have nothing else left to do with it
I've already given nectar to a bunch of house of hades characters
actually I've gotten the max bond for all of them except hypnos and megaera
yeah but you'll want to give them to everyone
yeah, everyone
yeah yeah I know it's ||how you get the epilogue||
oh btw how scary is ||Extreme Measures IV||
I only tried it once, and I won
But that was on a very overpowered build
and I came kind of close to losing
it's certainly worth doing
If you need a diamond then yes.
||EM4|| is amazing just fro the music
I greater called Athena against her trial for the achievement, I love her confounded tone of "are you quite serious right now", I want to hear all the gods responses to greater calls in trials but it's hard to build so much meter without killing the timer
i had like. six ares boons AFTER getting the prereqs for his legendary. do you think i spawned the legendary? ha.
sometimes the gods like to play hard to get
it would be so much easier if you could get bad call from [REDACTED]
I always seem to get legendaries offered when I don’t want them, they’re fickle
not to mention legendaries really feel like they help you less than average duo boons
For example, Artemis legendary came up twice in an attack crit build I did but I very rarely see it in cast-focused runs where I’m trying to get it
hermes do you really think i need greater recall when i'm doing a zagreus fists build that has little to no focus on casts
what instrument does eurydice use to play good riddance?
(not the actual composer)
her sprite is holding a lyre but i'd have to actually take time to listen to it to tell more specifically and i can't rn
ah that's good enough, thanks! i just wanted to draw fanart of her :P
oh hell yeah
ok i misspoke.. her sprite isnt holding an instrument at all
however orpheus is holding a lyre
hmmm
it looks like she is holding an instrument but bc she has her back facing towards us i cant really tell
she actually just wears a tambourine on her hip
yeah looking closely her hands are empty
:o
cant send image but theres a p high quality one early in the google image results
however it's probably safe to assume she CAN play the lyre since it's orpheus's instrument
there's not even an instrument anywhere in her room huh thats interesting
if ur shooting for historical accuracy (such that it exists within myth) a lyre or kithara (which is basically also a lyre but it looks different) would be ur best bet
oh wow she actually isn't holding anything huh
will do 👍 thanks for the help ^_^
no prob! im like a music nerd lol
oh dang maybe
yeah since she's only seen with the little drum on her hip whilst orpheus has an instrument on him
:o i wonder if they'll ever do a duet
i just completed my first run without using a single DD! i'm at 8 clears rn
Guys i have very important news
||the prince, in his great haste, ignored surveying each side of a rather busy crossing, where a swiftly-passing chariot collided with him, very forcefully|| oh my g o d
Dionysus was according to greek mythology, a femboy
"He is described in literature as womanly or man-womanish."
So the opposite of a tomboy
there's also hermaphroditus, the literal god of hermaphrodites and the effeminates
a shame he's not in the game smh
Dionysus also invented "naughty toys"
Kinda thought Aphrodite would do that
Son of aphrodite and hermes
i mean the lyre was apollo's jam but hermes is said to have invented it
He only became what he’s known for because of some besotted nymph that wished to never be separated from him
i think he gave it to apollo so he wouldn't be mad at him for something
Yeah, I think hermes stole and feasted on Apollo’s sacred cows
honestly i’m mad abt the lack of my main man hephaestus
yea wheres my dude!!!!
And so he wouldn’t get in trouble for it, he gave him the lyre
we coulda had fire power from hephaestus!!!
what would his status curse be + what would it do
Burn
Maybe you could heat up an enemy which damages other enemies nearby
or lower enemy speed
Like an aoe hangover
Cast would be a fireball that deals more damage when it hits a bunch of enemies
Dash could leave behind a trail of fire
or the snowballets from gungeon
we could go on
Yeah
What would the call do
Probably would create a circle of fire that gets bigger until it runs out of time
A lot of his stuff could actually also have to do with forging
ye!
Hades modding when
He could probably be designed to be strong against armored enemies
he could have passives that increase damage over a period of time
Let's talk duos
Frostburn with Demeter could be really cool
That's what I was thinking
Zeus could make it so electric effects are way stronger against armor
aphrodite’s could do extra damage to weak enemies
Hephaestus and Ares duo
Doesn't she already have a solo boon with that effect?
they don’t get a duo bc they’re too busy fighting over aphrodite
Aphro loved a lot of people... Heph was not really one of them xDD
I've seen this really cool art of how he could look
7,394 votes and 310 comments so far on Reddit
Hephaestus could have a duo with Dio's cast where it's literally a molotov
Aww, he looks too lovely to be Heph. Then again, maybe the 'body standards' for gods are just mean.
Oh my god yes
I feel like it wouldn't be too hard to program right?
Apart from all the lines and stuff
It would collide with the story
I would miss the lines and the godly interplay. The story and characterisation is my fave part of Hades.
I think you might be able to manage to splice some existing lines to create new stuff though, given how much there is...
I really hope the game gets some dlc with new gods
Would be a shame if mods were to never become a thing though.
I'm a conceptualizer, I'm packed with ideas
supergiant don’t really Do dlc though
Damn
Maybe they will with this game since it's such a giant success
Yeah, but they never do Early Access games, or Roguelikes either... at least not prior to Hades.
So you never know.
true
Maybe it could just be a free update, who knows
I would definitely pay for more dialogue and characters ❤️
Same here
this is the first roguelike i’ve ever enjoyed
I love roguelikes, though I suppose the ones I've played are technically roguelites
Though I feel the term roguelike doesn't get enough justice
yeah roguelite is more accurate for this i guess
does unlocking new aspects count as investing blood for the hidden aspect?
i need PROGRESSION
I've never been crazy about them, but I've never avoided them either. Hades is just superlative imo.
or do i have to upgrade
Honestly a normal roguelike sounds boring compared to a roguelite
Because true roguelikes have no permanent upgrades
yeah that’s why they don’t appeal
I don't mind that, but the progression in Hades was good... especially the story stuff.
Now if only Rogue had permanent upgrades
YES or NO?
Oh I don't think it does
I don't even know
sorry
I don't know the technicalities of unlocking them
I just did
ok
True roguelikes are based completely on skill, I can see the appeal of that
I like that... I just like Hades more. 😄
laughs in Slay the Spire
I guess you unlock some cards and relics there, but it doesn’t really help your gameplay
Imagine having no death defiance
^
I'm at the point where ||Theseus|| is whining about how his friendship with ||Asterius is over|| and it's hilarious
Lol.
How do gamepad controls work?
oh and ||Igneus Eden|| is fun
What is the aiming and attacking and all that
I've only used keyboard & mouse cause I like it
oof i skipped a +46 hp chaos boon to reroll and try to get a fated choice
i did not get the fated choice
Tsk tsk
Foolish
i need the chaos boon that only shows up after you’ve already got one
Which one?
If you really need it then upgrade the legendary chance mirror talent
i have that maxed
now i just need to get lucky and find another chaos gate
Use the egg if you have to, also the well item that spawns a chaos gate
I forget what it's called
Pretty good.
Dual stick?
How do you aim then?
left stick while you hold the button
Sounds kind of strange
To me it would make sense for dual stick preset with triggers and L R buttons as main actions
L is codex, R is interact
Why is L the codex
zl is summon, zr is call
I'd think that'd be a dpad thing
a is cast, b is dash, x is special and y is attack
Hm
I'm sure it makes more sense in action
I have all my attacking related actions on my mouse
What
i am asking if she wears 2 shoes
Why do you need to know this?
for a drawing
Ah
wait do i need to have the keepsake rank 3 in order to get the companion?
Nope
Don't think so anyway
Harpy feather duster would be so much better if it could work multiple times in a room
I've proven that it in fact does not work more than once in a room
hmm, quick spin or flaring spin for guan yu
i feel like flaring will help more bc of sturdy
or massive spin?? but the heals are flat rather than a % of damage dealt right?
quick spin is always great for gy
thx!
is there a way to find the satyr sack quicker? or is it just purely rng
rng
rng
it's always after at least 1 room
so never in the first
but other than that good luck
damn i got a pb of 18 minutes but it couldve been so much better if i hadnt found the sack in the very last room -_-
am i right in assuming chaos gates can’t show up in styx?
just beat a run with ||Igneus||
unless you find a light of ixion (which i have never seen in styx)
Yeah, chaos gates can’t show up
cool thanks
Anyone knows why I’m unable to give the last ambrosia to dusa ? Ir’s strange
I have to say that Hades has probably become one of if not my favorite game of all time
I finally beat the "post-game"
@weary horizon It takes a while but dusa requires more than 1
you will have to collect alot of ambrosia for dusa

1,2,3,4 I think
10
really, game. REALLY. guan yu is the run where i get a 5 sack.
Guan Yu has it's own style but yeah
I think is on purpose, I like the attack animations though
if you have spin enchants from daedalus it'll help
I think Guan Yu’s special is the thing to use anyway
They will patch it maybe
life affirm and nourished helps a lot with the health issue
Have they announce a major patch or Dlc ?
I wish they pacth on switch the Heat levels
Patch what?
I just downloaded a new patch just now on the switch
what is there to patch?
No idea of what it is for
I had no problem with it, because I did the run once I was strong enough that it wasn't a big deal, 50% less HP is not a problem when you can easily get over 150HP (half of 300) anyway.
I would like too get this game on PS4 and Double tip again
If you mean guan yu, that was the first hidden aspect ever added to the game, and it hasn’t changed much in concept since
the game is that good to me and 19.99 was a steal
Guan yu is the most important aspect then? I mean you need it to unlock the sword and then the others right?

You don't need to do a run with it to unlock the other aspects though! I did it last.
took me 3 weeks to unlock the final shield aspect it was the last one I got, Today
huh?
but guides online say that Guan yu is needed as pre requisite
you only need to reveal guan yu to get other hidden aspects
or I am wrong?
not unlock it w titan blood
yes thats what I meant
Unlocked, not used, in my experience.
I meant just reveal it
So I was half right, semantics are important, I guess

So now the end goal is to do a Full heat run?
No, sorry, emma is probably right that you only need it revealed to unveil the other aspects.
artemis attack on guan yu is ridiculous damage
I mean, good luck with full, I don’t think that’s been done before
i’ve only done 9 heat
on exagryph, zag aspect and extra ammo hammer? lol bye
I go through the heats methodically, just finished 6 heat with all the weapons, next run I will start 7 heat.
same polaris! tho i’m using whichever one has darker thirst
you don't need to unlock
I’ve done it like that and now I’m switching to 24 heat runs and eventually 32
And people complain that doing that is so grindy
lol I played MMORPGS this grind ain't nothing
and is actually fun
Wish grindy games were more like this, unless you hate all the weapons except one
I quite like the grind of this game
Each run does feel slightly different so it's not like sleepwalking to get better stuff
some GARISH POWER, oh my god, REALLY ||DAD||
anyway the guan yu animations w the leaves are GORGEOUS
I just got a yawn that sounded like a mix between megaera and hypnos when entering zag's bedchambers
lol
and it was L O U D
I guess you all play On Pc
yeah
so I am the only Switch user?
Not a single crash on this game, not frame drops and it runs so smooth
I thought the special effects would make the game unplayable but turns out I can follow the action just fine in portable mode
i’m playing on switch!
i'm being lazy and I'm doing a bunch of suicide runs to bond with a bunch of olympians
it is!!
spiritfarer made me cry like a baby omg
Spirit farer was cute
but didn't make me cry
I guess losing all my grandmas have kill me inside

i cry a lot at fiction 
I just wanted a harvest moon replacement
and I got it
I have to confess something
This is the only supergiant game that I have liked
I also did the bonds without suicide since I had to try to reach ||Patroclus|| to do that sidequest too.
Also after a 43 streak I'm still seeing new dialogue and flavour text every time with ||Theseus, Hades and 'taken by the Styx' deaths.||
I'm trying to think whether liking Hades means you'll like the other Supergiant games. Bastion and Transistor's combat have aspects that ended up in Hades. Transistor's combat has some unique aspects I loved, but I'm not sure if they are for everyone. But ultimately, I think you would like them! @tepid pulsar
I said it because I have play then
Is there anyway to get more DD during Styx?
luck
Ah, I interpreted "have like" as "have, like" rather than "have liked" XD
athena has two? boons that improve dd and restore one
if you’re lucky you’ll get touch of styx from a well of charon in a chamber
Grammar is still hard

My grammar is pretty meh both in my native language and english
Your level is impressive for a second language. You're doing great!
I just finish all my english studies
Final exam tomorrow
I wish my grammar was as good as Hades
do people use mouse and keyboard or gamepad more?
Cause I've done all my runs on pc, but just found a controller and was gonna give it a shot incase I buy it on switch as well
Playing on switch is comfortable
At least for me
I thought It was going to be uncomfortable or annoying, but nope, is great
nice
Do you have aim assist on? I turn it off for my mouse but thinking I'll turn it back on for a controller
Yes, aim assist works great with a controller
nice I'll give it a shot 🙂
KBM gives you more control over aiming and less over movement, controller is reverse.
is there anything that's commonly gets rebound on a controller?
Reload
yeahhh I saw that was on the stick 😂
I dont know what the dash button is originally but I have it set to left trigger
TWICE my approval process has blocked me getting a 14 shot special w chiron

dash is b on the switch!
it's actually on A for me (bottom one cause got an xbox controller for my pc)
yeah
would be the same
Rebinded you mean ?
A lot of people set dash to one of the shoulder buttons.
uhh yeah I guess aha
I'm fine with B for dash on Switch.
I need my special/attack/cast all right next to each other, x a b
yeah I was thinking about changing my special and cast, so if I dash with b, the special isn't on the other side of the pad cause there is a fists aspect I think that you need to dash special
anyway I'm gonna do that and try it
wish me luck doing my first controller run haha
Laser gun op
Glhf
This is like saying "I was so bored of playing on easy mode until I saw hard mode"
Like no duh
But I know you won't play EM with boosted HP
C o w a r d
Love you too

On Switch ?
Oh so Xbox controller.
Kind of? That's the button layout. I use a SNES clone controller
Oh I see, nice.
I like the Switch default control.
Many games usually have Y for normal attack and B for dash.
I'm used to those controls.
Do bosses count as armoured opponents when it comes to hammer upgrades?
hollow knight has taught us well
though im scared to remap my buttons at this point
but already shifted reload to L stick and it works great
no hades mem e channel...
I..just joined and I have only one thing to say~
this sticker 
And hello everyone! I'm glad that Hades brought such a big community together
I'm happy to chat with other fans :D
Hades is ❤️
can...we have hades meme channel 
If you have meme you can put in #fan-works I think
If it's a short joke just put it here
ooo thamk u
splatoon au thanatos is a vampire squid
i love those lil dudes. theyre neither vampires nor squids but theyre still called that!!
Hey left field question, is there a ref photo of Theseus that isn't cropped?
i don't think so, i think you'll just have to use his in-game sprite/model and do your best
You mean aside from the portrait during dialog? Yeah, don't think there is anything
Jen might have something if you want to try asking her on Twitter?
i think it would be fun if more shades would cheer for/have banners for zagreus the more times you defeat theseus + asterius but also the one (1) shade is so cute.......
house contractor work order: arena advertisement - more shades cheer for you
fan shade 
That'd be awesome imo

eventually the entire arena is red and theseus get really pissed
or maybe the colors alter depending on if you lost or won last round
and then one encounter he just doesn't show up because he's so upset
but then Asterius cheers him up by next time
bahahah yes
Aww. Poor, insecure Theseus. xD
I wanted to rebind reload to another button at first but I didn't find it and thought we couldn't, recently I found out we can but I'm fine with the default button now.
Plot twist, your shade is actually rooting for Theseus but is blind
After playing railgun for sometime and playing back with other weapons I kept the habit to press the reload button in between attacks lol.
Just for a bit tho.
Is there a ‘standard’ heat setting for speed running?
EM2, FO1/2
also you need to ||spoiler heat||
I dont think it really matters, there are different categories runs.
Spoiler that in general discussion?
thank you for whoever made these lovely emojis 
How high can Malphon's dodge chance get ?
15%
Not bad at all, combined with Hermes
8 special shots
Brub
Good stuff, damn
Wait does each arrow count as an individual attack ? For Artemis' arrow followup boon
i think so yeah
pog
Whose call ?
hermes' call boon
the one that gives you movement speed and dodge chance after call
i think 115% maybe
Over 100%
On a scale of 0-100% what are the chances to actually get hit with this ?
That's how dodge works ?
So 115% = 85% chance to dodge right ?
I guessed there wouldn't be a way to dodge everything through dodge chance and guessed it'd cap before 100% but the calculation works differently.
Would Hermès be the patron god of speed runners?
yes
any idea why my aspect of Gilgamesh is not doing the displayed maim damage?
Do you mean it was a joke or.
Absolutely
maim does 244 damage for me, but it says is should be doing 325
level 4 btw
pics as proof
wait link did not work
lol
there we go
Heyy I'm about to enter the temple on ||9 minute Heat challenge|| and I was wondering, how does it work with the temple rooms? Am I just hoping to get lucky and nail it early? Is the main room at least a pause area?
yes, you are just hoping to get it early, no, the main room is not a pause area, and miniboss rooms are usually faster than standard rooms
hope that helps!
That does help thx
So for some reason your maim damage is reduced by 25%? I haven’t noticed anything like that myself
Okay then is part of the ||9 minute Heat strat|| to usually pick shops and other neutral rooms?
yeah, thats how speedruns are normally done
Chaos is good too
You want basically free rooms
But at 9 minutes each zone, you don't have to worry too much yet
wdym by ||9 minute heat strat?|| just TD1? or is it just a sub-9 minute run?
I'm gonna try a cast build with Stygian Soul, I usually run with Infernal Soul.
yeah those are more rng dependent, but can get even crazier
Yeah I'll see how it goes.
||TD1|| doesn’t take much effort, especially since spare time is held over
make sure you get chaos bonus casts and / or arti legendary
Yeah but it helps to build up your speed to start with.
Yeah I'm gonna reroll Chaos casts.
Hera bow Crush Shot.
Epic Crush Shot from the start, awesome, I'm running ||20 heats|| btw.
No luck with first Chaos rerolls.
I found one on my second Chaos nice.
I had to reroll once.
Eurydice turned my Crush Shot to Heroic, awesome.
Does people also buy limited buff item for more bloodstones with Stygian Soul ?
prometheus stone? i only usually take it if im doing a dedicated cast run
Dedicated cast build yeah.
Kidney stone is good
I just take it whenever i have a cast mod
i mean with stygian extra cast is bringing P A I N
I usually don't buy buff items but those might come in handy during high heat runs, even if limited it might help a lot to clear rooms faster and easier.
ayo
Hi.
||Lambent Pume is so good||
No need to spoiler this.
really?
you only need to spoil things from the final boss and onwards
||final boss||
lambent is hard i can't go that fast
i got it to 20% and I have ultra instinct all of a sudden
Wait how do you get ||Artemis' locked heart 😳||
I have 30% + 3 dash + movement speed + dash movement bonus
I N Y O O O O O O O O O OM
Get Rush Delivery
i think?
I thought that going with ||JS2|| would make me run out of time with ||TD2|| but after all I had 6 minutes left when I went to fight ||Hades||.
For a first Stygian Soul cast build run I gotta say it was nice, I had 2 stones only but it saves a lot of time to not worry about recollecting them on the ground and instead focus on fighting enemies.
Pretty sure you just talk to her a bunch
Does using arrowhead and committing mass suicide on the first room count ?
Not sure tbh
yeah, that works, but no reason to rush it
Just play the game, a lot of things will come naturally unless you just want to 100% the game and stop playing.
I haven't used Athena for a while until recently and I gotta say her call is amazing against ||EM4 Hades||, I can just focus on attacking instead of avoiding some attacks.
The fact that upgrading her call gives you more time too is pretty nuts
Try to ask in #h1-story-discussion
Sorry
Oh that's awesome.
No need to be sorry.
Also using non greater call is good too to avoid short attacks such as ||Cerberus call from Hades.||
Which gods give/boost resources? Poseidon? Any others?
I think ||Demeter|| does too
depends what you mean
Yeah the greater calls can be a trap because of boss invuln states
Unless you just mean artifacts.
Doesn't the hidden one boost what you collect? Like +33 more per run?
Ooh yeah chaos yeah that's the one
Thx
I can consistently do perfect shot with bow now that's awesome, it takes time to get used to.
Also I just noticed it does a different animation when hitting enemies with perfect shot.
Does ||heat|| increase rewards?
No, you just get the bounties again.
just refreshes bounties @graceful flicker
Like restore one use ?
If you find a Charon's well yes.
No other way?
If you're lucky enough to find it in the well btw, you can reroll it as well with Fated Persuasion.
Athena and another god boons can restore DD uses.
Is it your first time reaching the Styx ?
Oh I think I've had that only once
I don't like sacrificing health
you can earn it back
yeah I use chaos as long as it's not close to a boss fight
youre going to take damage anyways so why not use it for something good
Why is there no poison boon?
and if you dont like sacrificing health use the chaos egg
wdym poison
hangover is kinda like poison
trippy flare doesnt inflict hangover
Ayo
Really?
Hidden sword?
it's so fun right?
I like projectile weapons tho so I prob wont like it
@pearl saddle Chaos boons helps a lot tho you should consider them.
200 base damage for third strike 😩
though i had around the same speed completing the game with it as any other aspect
Either, go fight the final boss with 4 DD full health but low level boons with good combos, or go and do a Pom of Power Tunnel and potentially lose health
Don't risk it.
generally dont get more tunnels than you need to
Only do it if you're confident enough.
So go fight ||Hades||?
pom isn't worth the risk I think
^
Most of my boons are level 1
If its a god boon you might need for a build then why not but only if you're good enough at Styx tunnels.
yeah it's okay when picking between doors or in a shop, but I wouldn't risk losing a DD for it
Most books are worth adding one level to IMO, but pretty quick diminishing returns after that
pog is always worth it late game ;)
What’s pog?
ahahah
lol ahh;)
Yeah I find that one lvl increases the effect a lot but afterwards not as much.
a pogagranate
Go or get it?
Pog was common but now extinct Twitch emote.
It's not a miniboss tunnel
||hades||
G*mers hunted Pog to death
overconsumption of pog led to declining populations
It's pog's own fault for that
If you guys tell me to fight ||Hades|| then I'll go but can you help with the fight?
how are we supposed to help with the fight
getting hit
we are here for moral support
Welp, here I go!
A drink made with passion fruit, orange, and guava
EZ
Tried a controller for the first time, was really comfy 
Also a stupid piece of cardboard people collected in the 90s I think
controllers are great
true that, Pog, i suppose, was never meant to be a lasting species.
The more you'll fight ||Hades||, the better you'll get at it, not everyone will beat him at their first try.
I'm playing on switch
pogchamp is slur in twitch's eyes. Just like simp and virgin
yeah, makes me wanna get it on my switch now 🤔
literally no one has beaten the final boss on their first try
This is fine.
my friend almost did and I'm sooo glad he didn't 😭
Eh someone probably has, but most won’t. He’s a tricky fight but you get much better at it after the first few tries
playing it on switch, the joycons are perfect for my small hands
I'm sure there's a few people who managed it - there's always insane gamers out there
I'm using a pro controller cause I just found out today that you can connect them to steam :v
I don't know why we have to spoiler mark ||Hades|| it seems pretty obvious that they're the final boss
there's a nice setting for it and everything
@manic bobcat Lmao nice reaction.
who do i thank for the server invite? 😛 it came out of nowhere
||hey guys did you know that some guy named dead cells is the final boss of dead cells||
you did it???
No
:'v
Im reacting to @fleet narwhal
yeah I realised aha
highly suggest you play hades instead of conversing with us
How the heck would I beat it in like 5 minutes
I forgot to pause my game while typing here, losing time from ||TD2||, but this is fine.
this is fine
5 minutes is pretty reasonable provided you have a good build
I frequently pause in the ||first phase|| and take breaks so I don't mess up. But that changes in the ||second phase||.
@manic bobcat I've been waiting for the occasion to tell you that because of your pfp lol.
How does that change ||the second phase||?
Does getting +attack damage from a boon usually affect dash. Strikes?
yes
Hi! I failed my 30 try😅
Cuz you need to stay in the flow to beat the ||second phase|| one try to be calm and you're dead
I cant beat Aid
Aid?
I pause sometimes during the final battle because sweating hands.
^ relatable
Also that
I mean Hades
Sorry i dont know how
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Thx
like that
I dont know which message to repeat in my mind "You can do it" or "YOU CANT DO IT OH GODS HELP ME"
Lol
Hades soundtrack is so good.
everything that Zagreus says just feels so relatable, when you lose a death defiance he says "Ugh, no!"
The music is as always on top as well as the voice acting
Just another death nothing special
Relatable because I die inside everyday 😔
Well that's life, you get some you lose some
And in hades it’s mostly losing some 😭

