#h1-discussion

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twilit wraith
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Anybody else have a sense of dread at the thought of finishing Hades?

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Being finished with all the subplots and character interactions, being stuck with characters simply repeating their generic lines, instead of the ones brimming with life?

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Because fantastic job for that I must say

unkempt sleet
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You could always start a new file, there's so many voice lines that it takes hundreds of hours to hear it all

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So you won't remember the first ones after you hear the last

twilit wraith
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hmmmmm

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that is true

unkempt sleet
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But really, if you've heard all the voice lines in the game, you probably should take a break.

twilit wraith
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never

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and, I'm sure I"m far from such a thing

waxen juniper
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Not really. I've played 100+ hours and the unique lines have died down, but that just makes it all the more pleasant to discover a new one

twilit wraith
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but, it's astonishing that, the experience is so well made, I'm literally dreading the end because it means the journey is over

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IN A ROUGELIKE

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a genere built around limitless replayability

waxen juniper
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Not really. There comes a point where the versatile gameplay overrides the desire for a story

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Especially since the story has a satisfying conclusion

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If it didn't, I'd totally understand

twilit wraith
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to be honest, the thing that keeps me on runs is the desire to see new character dialogue and gift giving opportunities haha

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not that the game isn't fun

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but I've been sucked in so thoroughly by this world

waxen juniper
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At some point, they will dwindle down significantly. If that's the point where you stop playing, then you have ended off on a high note :)

unkempt sleet
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Imagine playing a roguelike for the story.
Ot you could play Hades and actually do it.

twilit wraith
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A lovely perspective tbh

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but reexperiencing the story again also has merit haha

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not something I'd be entirely opposed to

waxen juniper
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For some. I have a relatively strong memory, so replaying the story will definitely not be fun for me

twilit wraith
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oh I love reexperiencing a story

unkempt sleet
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My second savefile is there just because I wanted to see how the story was different if you got credits earlier

twilit wraith
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even one I'm familiar with on the details

unkempt sleet
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There's a lot of different voice lines depending on where you are in the story

twilit wraith
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hmmmmmm

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Definitely something to consider

waxen juniper
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Once you're done with the story (or most of it) then you have to find other incentives to play. Experimenting with builds that seem extremely silly, in either a good or a bad way, is what keeps me engaged

twilit wraith
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True

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I do like challenge runs as well...

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maybe, no mirror no boons or something similar O_o

unkempt sleet
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RI4 is painful, trust me

waxen juniper
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Those are tough! But they can be fun to try

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It feels so weird when your mirror abilities are gone

twilit wraith
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R14?

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I bet as well

unkempt sleet
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50 hp and no DD

twilit wraith
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becomes natural after a point

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yeah

waxen juniper
twilit wraith
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Ah the ||heat no mirror pact||

waxen juniper
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Yep

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Routine Inspection

unkempt sleet
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Well I am now trained in Ruthless so one dash isn't that bad

twilit wraith
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yeah I'm a ruthless man myself

waxen juniper
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It does take some getting used to though

twilit wraith
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but, I never turn down the odd +3 dash hermes boon

unkempt sleet
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And redacted is kind of a pain

waxen juniper
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redacted1 redacted2 is always pain

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Even when it isn't

twilit wraith
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[REDACTED] still kills me even after ||getting the credits||

waxen juniper
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He'll do that

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I always have Hard Labor 5 on now so my run can always end in an instant

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Makes it more interesting

twilit wraith
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mmmm

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fun haha

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gotta pump the max health so you don't get one shot haha

unkempt sleet
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HS redacted pots killed my 32 heat run as well as my soul and motivation

twilit wraith
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haha

waxen juniper
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Heightened Security can be painful

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And yeah, those pots are brutal

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It also sucks to accidentally get hit by an axe with HS on

pseudo halo
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I'm sure the majority of us are hungry for some sort of DLC

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I'm just saving my energy for the next game to come out though

waxen juniper
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If we get DLC, we get DLC. If not, I am still satisfied with what we have.

twilit wraith
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If we get dlc I'm buying it day one

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no cap

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It could be 80 bucks

pseudo halo
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Giga

twilit wraith
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and it will be in my steam library the millesecond it's out

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also, my newfound obsession with hades means I need to tryout the rest of SGG's library

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I have bastion or transistor from a free offer on EGS

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so that's a good place to start haha

brazen lagoon
pseudo halo
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Bastion was what marked my start as a indie game enthusiast

brazen lagoon
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If there's dlc you better believe I'm buyin asap

pseudo halo
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Bastion was a magical time

twilit wraith
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man I haven't been this fandom invested since, what, 2012?

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Thank you SGG

waxen juniper
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Hades is a good game. There is no denying it

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Since everyone wants DLC so much, what would you want it to be?

twilit wraith
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no clue

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but, it would be good lmao

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(also, ten bucks for whoever can guess the 2012 fandom)

brazen lagoon
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I'll play whatever they put out lol

twilit wraith
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^

worldly canyon
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Bastion is great

gritty roost
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idk, new weapons, new olympian (Apollo?)

waxen juniper
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Most of it was okay, but I wasn't much of a fan of the core gameplay.

gritty roost
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with fire boons and whatnot

waxen juniper
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Why does everyone want Apollo so much?

manic bobcat
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^

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This

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I dont get the obsession with Apollo

brazen lagoon
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He cool

gritty roost
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im just sayin man, he's the only olympian not in the game, i think

twilit wraith
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hephaestus?

waxen juniper
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Hera and Hestia aren't in the game

twilit wraith
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also them

brazen lagoon
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Just add all the olympians

twilit wraith
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might be too many pools then tho is the concern

waxen juniper
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There are some really interesting minor gods that'd be interesting to see

pseudo halo
brazen lagoon
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At this point they can do anything and I'll play it

waxen juniper
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It'd be interesting to see Janus incorporated somehow

pseudo halo
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the god of choice?

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might be too many pools then tho is the concern

You already have the keepsakes to "force" a boon to be a certain God

gritty roost
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playable Skelly

rapid forum
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playable Skelly
Objective : Survive

waxen juniper
pseudo halo
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But yes jump rope minigame with the furies

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The crowd demands it

worldly canyon
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Zagreus and the Argonauts

waxen juniper
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At the end of the day, I just want more boons to play with

pseudo halo
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I just wanna duel the hidden aspect wielders

craggy barn
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hear me out

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decorations for the garden

pseudo halo
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Fight them with their destined weapon and all that

craggy barn
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fighting beowulf would be sick but how would it be implemented

worldly canyon
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I think a god with more healing boons like apollo or ascelepius would be interesting

craggy barn
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'replenishing flourish' dusa

worldly canyon
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Oooh wait

ornate bear
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Duo with Athena, healing every time you deflect

worldly canyon
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What if it was a Cultic dlc which added a few 'foreign Gods' like Isis

craggy barn
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hell yeah i want boons from jesus christ

pseudo halo
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lmao

worldly canyon
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I don't know about the Greeks but I know the Romans had loads of cults like that

craggy barn
waxen juniper
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Well, Romans copied much of Greek culture, so they probably did

worldly canyon
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This is true

pseudo halo
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Point is, there's a lot they could work with for DLC.

worldly canyon
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Amaterasu comes and gives you a sun laser zaglol

brazen lagoon
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romans just stole the greek gods and changed their names smh

waxen juniper
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it

worldly canyon
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Roman DLC

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Everything is the same except all the names are different

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And also the cult of the emperor's genus gets added so the Caesars pop up to give you boons

pseudo halo
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Out of curiosity, are there actual staff members from supergiant games or is this just an official fan server or something

brazen lagoon
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there's staff members yeah

pseudo halo
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Cool

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Hope they're reading this

granite ether
pseudo halo
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Sick, thanks

waxen juniper
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I also know that people really love asking about DLC on here, so I wouldn't be surprised if they tune that out.

pseudo halo
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Understandable

manic bobcat
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My heart is like a metronome swinging back and forth between having DLC and not

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My biggest fear is that the DLC turns out not as good as the game.

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I mean Hades is a high bar to top

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SGG might have outdone themselves lol

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But if the quality is the same, please let there be DLC

waxen juniper
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Well, the DLC will more than likely be an expansion pack. So it kinda just bleeds in to the rest of the game

manic bobcat
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Hope so...

waxen juniper
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Also... how would you add in other gods narratively if they weren't involved in the original story?

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From that perspective, having DLC doesn't make much sense

manic bobcat
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Hello little Hades, I'm X and I'm hearing Y is aiding you in this quest so I figure I can lend my hand yada yada

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Apollo hearing from Artemis about Zag is a given

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I'm sure Greg can concoct something better even

waxen juniper
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Okay, and what about the epilogue? Since these new gods are added, they'll need to be included in that too.

hollow hawk
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Maybe the dlc could be post epilogue?

brazen lagoon
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dont overthink it

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just hope

waxen juniper
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I get what the devs are saying. They didn't want to just cram in every god, but they wanted the ones that actually mattered in their narrative.

manic bobcat
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Welp, fingers crossed for a good DLC

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Maybe like a content bonus pack

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Rather than a full blown DLC

pseudo halo
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That'll be fine too

waxen juniper
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We'll see what happens

thin socket
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42/49 achievements 🥰

waxen juniper
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Getting there!

pseudo halo
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If they don't plan on doing any DLC, then I'll just look forward to their next game instead

waxen juniper
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That is something we can certainly look forward to

rapid forum
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ngl tho, when Hades was announced early access and rogue lite, I was sceptical as heck

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glad I was wrong

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that's also my "issue" with the next game. Will it be also early access?

waxen juniper
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Early Access was a very smart decision for this game. After all, you can't really tell what is balanced or not until people start playing things.

pseudo halo
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I was suprised to hear Supergiants game doin this kind of game too

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Like I was expecting a Bastion-esqe game with Greek themes/chars

rapid forum
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I guess the only way to make a game as big as Hades is through Early Access. Well okay there might be other ways but they've already prove it with Hades.

pseudo halo
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I should replay Transistor

rapid forum
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oh yes

worldly canyon
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I need to plau Transistor. I started but never finished

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Not like I have anything better to do. Curse that certain combination of nucleic acids that shall not be named

pseudo halo
rapid forum
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ngl, I barely knew any english when I played Transistor. However, the ending made me cry :>

rapid forum
pseudo halo
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Understandable

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~~Even though her hair is kinda weird, she is goodest girl ™️ ~~

austere whale
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Yo, anyone wanna do Vs. runs sometime?
(Both start on a new run with the same aspect at the same heat level. Take the same starting keepsake. Whoever clears first or doesn’t die wins)

manic bobcat
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Check out the speedrun Discord

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They have that stuff weekly

austere whale
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Ew lol

manic bobcat
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If you want a custom race I'm sure someone there would be down

granite ether
manic bobcat
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Why ew? They have exactly what you want lol

rapid forum
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doing it weekly might not be good for my heart dusa

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or my hand

austere whale
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Joining a different server for something so simple is such a waste of time and server space

brazen lagoon
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joining a server takes like 5 seconds

manic bobcat
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Then erm go there and unsub here??

pseudo halo
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I don't think anybody here is sweaty enough to participate in that kind of race

manic bobcat
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There are some here but they are also active in the speedrun Discord

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Racing and speedrun stuff go there obviously

maiden belfry
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i would have loved apollo being int he game if only bc of interactions with artemis

manic bobcat
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If I get a dollar for each time people ask for Apollo in this game I can probably graduate grad school debt free lol

maiden belfry
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rooting for you

rapid forum
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for foxhope

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would be nice if apollo is in the game

maiden belfry
cedar glen
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oh no that's so cute

maiden belfry
rapid forum
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wish we could pet her

cedar glen
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SAME

rapid forum
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I mean sure we can pet cerberus

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but we expected that

maiden belfry
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how is cerberus not a pet emote in ehre

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the heck

waxen juniper
worldly canyon
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Cerberus is a v good boy(s)

granite ether
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the bestest boi even shadesmile

maiden belfry
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fun fact, the etymological root of cerberus means "spotted"

worldly canyon
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CERBERUS LEFT (he was hungry)

maiden belfry
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so yes, hades, lord of the underworld, named his dog "Spot"

steady gate
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I feel stygian sword and varatha are the most broken weapons

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Exagrph and knuckles are pretty aight

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I do not like the bow whatsoever

maiden belfry
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get chiron bow

steady gate
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I got hestia

maiden belfry
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hestia is the rail

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hera?

steady gate
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Hera yeah

maiden belfry
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its good too

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if you get like

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artemis crit cast

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and exit wounds

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and poseidon duo

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basically the cast build TM

steady gate
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Prolly should get chiron

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I'll trade off my ambrosia

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I love aspect of achilles

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For varatha

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It's like ff15 I'm warping everywhere

crude prawn
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what clothes is zag wearing

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like what do you call them

steady gate
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Toga

crude prawn
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ah ty

maiden belfry
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its what most of the male gods are wearing

trail pendant
manic bobcat
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Apparently it's called Chiton

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Toga is Roman

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And not used for physical activities, which obviously doesn't fit Zag

maiden belfry
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got 15 ambrosia finally

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now im faced with a dillema

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do i use it for the theme

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or more blood

pseudo halo
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Blood imo

maiden belfry
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actually now that you say that i think i jsut reminded myself i was going to look at the themes before i boutght any

pseudo halo
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Is there a way to preview the themes before buying

cedar glen
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t-there are themes in this game?

maiden belfry
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it requires ALOT of gems and such with the house contractor

unkempt sleet
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They a very expensive

maiden belfry
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like, basically doing every single work order

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and then the prices on them

cedar glen
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today i learned

maiden belfry
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ill post them after this run

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therye just like, style changesf or the UI

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those kind of themes

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ill post the prices after this run

cedar glen
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pointless cosmetics are my jam

maiden belfry
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a true gamer:Tm:

cedar glen
maiden belfry
manic bobcat
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Though I can tell you ||Deathly|| is best

pseudo halo
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The House of Hades doesn't believe in internet

manic bobcat
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No bias here

waxen juniper
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I like Lovely and Infernal quite a bit

pseudo halo
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you're lovely

manic bobcat
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Aww

cedar glen
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aww

white swift
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aww

maiden belfry
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i dont think anything tehre is spoiles

cedar glen
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oh geez

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danke~

brazen lagoon
steady gate
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Artemis simp

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I was about to name myself that

maiden belfry
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unless your name's orion, she doenst want any anyway

steady gate
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Achilles

maiden belfry
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she's just a fangirl

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lbr

steady gate
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Very much fangirl

maiden belfry
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all artemis needs is her island full of naked lady nymphs

pseudo halo
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Start a server where everyone is named Artemis simp

acoustic plank
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There's a speedrunner named Artemis and I do simp for her

cedar glen
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i'll join that

steady gate
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I see

manic bobcat
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Sounds like a cult

maiden belfry
steady gate
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This place has too less emojis

haughty cape
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I have never heard anyone use the word simp unironically, and I never want to

rapid forum
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everything is a cult, if you're extremist enough

steady gate
brazen lagoon
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you can yourself artemis simp it's aight

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ain't copyrighted

steady gate
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It's cool

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Fanboy is almost the same thing

brazen lagoon
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ye

manic bobcat
rapid forum
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dammit

steady gate
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No

acoustic plank
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Simp is used ironically more than unironically, so using it unironically is ironic

steady gate
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That's so bad

worldly canyon
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Can I join the Artemis fanclub?

pseudo halo
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Simp is just higher up on the hierarchy next to fanboy/girl

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Where you go from enthusiast to REALLY INTERESTED

hollow hawk
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fanboy/girl>stan>simp

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eh?

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id personally rate stan higher than simp, but ig that convo is off topic

steady gate
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True true

pseudo halo
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Stans "defend" their honor
Simps fill their wallets

manic bobcat
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Isn't stan like a psychopathic fan?

steady gate
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It's short for stalker fan

pseudo halo
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Kpop will teach you a thing or two

steady gate
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Imagine kpop

hollow hawk
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kpop and dream too

steady gate
brazen lagoon
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kpop and mc stans freaky

manic bobcat
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Dream cheated

worldly canyon
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Stan was from a song very critical of stans lol

haughty cape
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I should probably change my name to Ares simp then

steady gate
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Sure go ahead

hollow hawk
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ares+arty is amazing too

steady gate
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Just curious

hollow hawk
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hunting blades are pog

brazen lagoon
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you criticize any of em they got your address in 2 seconds

pseudo halo
steady gate
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Is shenpai in this server

pseudo halo
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@shenpai

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Nope

hollow hawk
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you can try @'ing them, yeah

manic bobcat
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Who is that?

hollow hawk
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if they are, you'll see their name

haughty cape
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I still haven't got hunting blades

steady gate
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It's a streamer

pseudo halo
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Streamer

rapid forum
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lmao

hollow hawk
rapid forum
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replied to wrong chat

steady gate
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She simps for almost everyone

pseudo halo
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Wow I'm the wrong person

steady gate
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Except theseus

pseudo halo
haughty cape
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I haven't had the game that long c'mon

pseudo halo
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Theseus is hilarious

cinder crest
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hi

pseudo halo
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12/10 would punch again

hollow hawk
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hello akn!

steady gate
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I hate theseus

cinder crest
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hello

steady gate
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I want to shove his spear down his throat

pseudo halo
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You'd love to fill him up with bullets though

hollow hawk
steady gate
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Fair enough

hollow hawk
steady gate
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Ye boi

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Divine dash is broke

manic bobcat
haughty cape
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Theseus is just a pro wrestling face who is annoyed Zagreus doesn't properly play the heel

hollow hawk
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i get divine dash and then always time my deflect just right to shove that spear into theseus' own chest

haughty cape
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Athena cast is great for that

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Time it right and you hit him with the cast and his own reflected spear

steady gate
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I always use athena's keepsake to get her dash

cinder crest
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how many hours do you have

steady gate
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It's my priority 1

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Combined switch and pc about 30 to 35 hours

brazen lagoon
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322

pseudo halo
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DIViNe dASh Is a cRUTch

cinder crest
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wow

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322

pseudo halo
manic bobcat
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350

brazen lagoon
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i got no life bro

steady gate
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Yeah they have more

brazen lagoon
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got it november 30

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benn playing it daily

cinder crest
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ıncredıble

hollow hawk
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i have 350 too

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but without the zero

cinder crest
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ım 60 jdsfljsdlkf

manic bobcat
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Lol

pseudo halo
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I have 90 but I got the game 2 weeks ago

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I'm doin p gud

hollow hawk
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why do your i's have no dot at the top

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its freaking me out

manic bobcat
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I got it May 2020

steady gate
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I got the game in

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I can't remember

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A few months ago

cinder crest
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which one did you finish

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hell or normal

hollow hawk
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i got the game when it got popular 😎

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normal

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ofc

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i dont wanna be pulling my hair apart with hell mode lol

cinder crest
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all storys

maiden belfry
steady gate
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I didn't even know it existed

pseudo halo
hollow hawk
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i havent quite finished the gamme completely yet

pseudo halo
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You get used to it pretty quick

hollow hawk
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ive got the epilogue

steady gate
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I played transistor and bastion and I'm like

manic bobcat
steady gate
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Wait they had another game

hollow hawk
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but havent finished all storylines etc

steady gate
cinder crest
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transistor is a good game

hollow hawk
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im probs gonna play bastion and transistor after i finish hades completely

cinder crest
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ı like ıt

pseudo halo
steady gate
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I haven't finished transistor

hollow hawk
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which one should i try first, out of the two?

manic bobcat
cinder crest
steady gate
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Bastion

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Transistor might take a while

hollow hawk
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gotcha

steady gate
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Since transistor is a tactical arpg

hollow hawk
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smh

cinder crest
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transistor is slow

steady gate
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Bastion is more akin to hades

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But yeah it's kinda slow

hollow hawk
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gotcha

cinder crest
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ı prefer hades

steady gate
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Obviously

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Bastion is their first game

manic bobcat
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What's wrong with your i bro

hollow hawk
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i asked him this

maiden belfry
hollow hawk
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and he didnt respond

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smh

cinder crest
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beacuse ıst fast and
there is a lot of variety

steady gate
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Yeah what's wrong with that

worldly canyon
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Yeah but you can use dual wielding pistols in Bastion. Can Zag do that?

pseudo halo
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Yes he can

steady gate
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Those pistols are broke

pseudo halo
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||Just needs enough cathonic keys for it||

hollow hawk
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her cast is amazing imo

steady gate
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Varatha divine strike

acoustic plank
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deflect on fist attack is underrated

steady gate
manic bobcat
pseudo halo
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Why would you need to deflect with an attack

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When you can just dodge it

hollow hawk
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to block enemy attacks smh

manic bobcat
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Back in the day it was so popular

cinder crest
maiden belfry
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deflect on fists HITS

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no pun intended

hollow hawk
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when youre facing armored witches in asphodel, the deflect can come in handy

worldly canyon
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I hate that goddamn room

hollow hawk
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i think we all do

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unless you have athena dash

acoustic plank
worldly canyon
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I take more damage in there than I do against the Hydra without modifiers

hollow hawk
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then you just fly around and wait for the witches to just kill themselves

acoustic plank
hollow hawk
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the other annoying thing about that room is, if you have knockback on anything the witches go fly on the lava and you have to kill them there

haughty cape
#

Witches circle isn't so bad with bow or sword because your special stops all the shots.

hollow hawk
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because they dont take any damage from the lava :((

pseudo halo
#

No leg gang

cedar glen
#

one day i'll meg all the witches...

acoustic plank
#

On a serious note, I actively avoid all the Asphodel minibosses

hollow hawk
#

one day my guy

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one day

pseudo halo
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Don't think you can hit every single one of them unless if you get SUPER lucky with positioning

worldly canyon
#

Megagorgon can suck my toe

hollow hawk
#

i dont mind any other asphodel miniboss rooms honestly

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megagorgon is fine for me most of the time

manic bobcat
#

You can consistently Meg all 4

brazen lagoon
#

yeah megagorgon's actually my favorite lol

worldly canyon
#

Pro tip to getting good at Hades: become a speedrunner thanthink

pseudo halo
#

4? I thought it was 5

manic bobcat
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4

brazen lagoon
#

takes like 15 seconds to beat

hollow hawk
acoustic plank
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If your build sucks, you'll know at Megagorgon

haughty cape
#

The only miniboss I really hate is the butterfly ball

acoustic plank
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butterfly ball is easy imo. Never had a problem with it.

hollow hawk
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butterfly ball has gotten better for me with practice, especially with the fists

brazen lagoon
#

i dont get why yall hate the butterfly ball so much tbh

hollow hawk
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i just yeet its armor

haughty cape
#

I can live with the others, except maybe witches circle with fists

brazen lagoon
#

it's really easy for me idk

acoustic plank
hollow hawk
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i once got a build with like 120% chaos backstab damage on the fists+athena backstab

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+arty crits

steady gate
#

Asterius is cool and all

hollow hawk
#

final boss was such a cakewalk

haughty cape
#

Butterfly ball is like a dps check. If you can't nova it before four elysium bastards are fully spawned, you have a very bad time.

acoustic plank
steady gate
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But encountering him is worse than butterfly ball

hollow hawk
#

asterius' miniboss actually helps me practice for the actual elysium boss

worldly canyon
hollow hawk
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since i can get his moves readied

haughty cape
#

Asterius is fine

steady gate
#

Also does asphodel only have 1 mini boss

naive latch
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I find Asterius alone to be fine

steady gate
#

Oh yeah barge of death

hollow hawk
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i also enjoy asterius' dialogue

steady gate
#

Same

pseudo halo
steady gate
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I wish I can give him nectar

hollow hawk
haughty cape
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Asphodel has three. Megagorgon, witches circle, barge

naive latch
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Yeah

acoustic plank
#

barge of death is eeeeeeasy

haughty cape
#

Styx has five

steady gate
#

Ah I see

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Yeah

brazen lagoon
#

barge is annoying when im trying to speedrun since it takes forever

steady gate
#

Personally do not like megagorgon

hollow hawk
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ive never even dared to face any styx miniboss

haughty cape
#

Elysium has two, I think

steady gate
#

It kills the Framerate sometimes

hollow hawk
#

the styx rooms themselves are enough to drain my health

naive latch
#

Why is fighting mini bosses in styx easier than the usual final chamber fight for me?

acoustic plank
brazen lagoon
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cause its just one or more enemy

cinder crest
#

I want to make the photo in the thumbnail of this server pp. how can i do

steady gate
#

Yeah

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They are just tanky

worldly canyon
#

Styx minibosses aren't that bac

hollow hawk
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havent been feeling to do it idk

acoustic plank
#

Also getting the satyr sack in a "boss" room, woof. So nice.

worldly canyon
#

Except for || the tiny vermin || squirtooh

haughty cape
#

Styx minibosses are usually not bad but they can be a total run killer

manic bobcat
naive latch
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Ah neat

hollow hawk
#

idk i like to face final boss with my health full

acoustic plank
hollow hawk
#

oh

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do they?

naive latch
#

I think its because you face less enemies in the miniboss rooms which is why I find them easier

hollow hawk
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i knew the poms were doubled, but didnt know about the boons

haughty cape
#

I remember losing three death defiance to the satyr high priest

hollow hawk
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thanks for the info

acoustic plank
#

np

steady gate
acoustic plank
#

oof

haughty cape
#

That's how I felt

manic bobcat
naive latch
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Losing death defiance in styx drains my soul

steady gate
#

If that happens I'll actually restart my run

haughty cape
#

Yeah, I just rage quit at that point

manic bobcat
#

I used to think the same way but some one data mined the game and figure this out

acoustic plank
#

Interesting. I've gotten legs and duos on the same screen in that room

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maybe I get an excessive amount of boons

manic bobcat
#

You can get them for sure

steady gate
#

I need context on legs

manic bobcat
#

Jusy lower chance than normal

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Higher ratity chance though

steady gate
#

Oh

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Legends

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Never mind

haughty cape
#

Legs

manic bobcat
#

Hands

acoustic plank
#

feet

naive latch
#

T o e s

cedar glen
#

love me some nice legs

steady gate
rapid forum
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knees

pseudo halo
manic bobcat
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Tis true

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I was surprised, too lol

pseudo halo
#

Yeah Im like

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I'm dumping all this coin

haughty cape
#

Leg

pseudo halo
#

and I can't even get a near guaranteed legendary/duo boon?

acoustic plank
#

You could be just saying that and everyone would still believe you and not believe you at the same time

steady gate
#

Wonder if daeleus would ever have a portrait

pseudo halo
#

I mean at least that chance isn't at 0%

steady gate
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Instead of just his hammer

manic bobcat
#

You can still get them but the chance is worse than normal lmao

acoustic plank
#

Increased rarity is still worth it. Especially if that one boon boosts your damage to high hell

manic bobcat
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Yup

acoustic plank
#

Also because the boss rooms aren't that difficult

manic bobcat
#

Or 2x pom

acoustic plank
#

v nice

manic bobcat
#

Or 50 HP

pseudo halo
#

50hp is ok

manic bobcat
#

Minibosses are very nice still, despite that

acoustic plank
#

50hp with 3 death defiances is 125hp

manic bobcat
#

Even more value with SD

haughty cape
#

2x pom is meh

acoustic plank
#

depends if it hits something good

pseudo halo
#

^

haughty cape
#

The level 1-2 gap is much bigger than the level 2-3 gap

acoustic plank
#

2x pom on any hangover build is huge

haughty cape
#

And you aren't guaranteed to be able to apply the pom to your good boons anyway

acoustic plank
#

pom scaling with %s is bad... but on some things, every pom counts. And dont forget also that having 10 poms over the course of a run is huge. It's not just the one pom that matters, even if the scaling is bad.

pseudo halo
#

I just use poms to round out my build, focusing on boon/rarity is more important

haughty cape
#

Half the time you use it and it's like "ok, would you like to level up Divine Dash, your revenge perk, or this Poseidon knockback boon that is no use against bosses?"

acoustic plank
#

That's why you invest in few, very efficient boons and pom all of them up. And actively sell the ones you don't think are doing anything.

haughty cape
#

But sometimes you get to put it on Heroic trippy flare or something.

acoustic plank
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I sell boons that don't improve my build much. If it's only doing a little bit, it's taking pom chances away from my good boons

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and I dont like that

pseudo halo
#

Yeah that's a good way to look at it

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because unless if you want to waste those precious rerolls

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you have to cull relatively early on

plucky brook
#

chat! pick a number between 1-6

pseudo halo
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5.9

acoustic plank
#

3

plucky brook
#

3 is a whole number, so i'll take 3

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shield run time

acoustic plank
#

Glhf

pseudo halo
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Chaos is displeased

plucky brook
#

no chaos would be pleased

acoustic plank
#

Chaos has no capacity for pleasure, only chaos

plucky brook
#

||heat 19|| nearly free from behind morally obligated to choose harder difficulties POGGERS

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what else could zeus aspect build apart from zeus, cause so far I've only ran zeus heavy builds

haughty cape
#

||Demeter||

plucky brook
#

that'd be an interesting thought

haughty cape
#

It works really, really well.

plucky brook
#

and just pray I hit the ||artic blast||

haughty cape
#

Oh yes, that is crazy good

plucky brook
#

I had a run with 6+ ||demeter|| boons and never hit ||artic blast|| ;c

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anyway, i'll make my ||20 heat|| run with that build in your honor 2_peepoSalute

haughty cape
#

Good luck!

maiden belfry
#

im being called out

cedar glen
#

oh mood

pseudo halo
#

hale yeah

maiden belfry
#

oh i jsut finished all the lounge contractor stuff

cedar glen
maiden belfry
#

bedchambers done too

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poster of aphros nakey butt on my wall now

cedar glen
#

that was one of the first things i bought..

maiden belfry
#

cultured

rapid forum
#

Dio's poster to invoke healthy lifestyle

pseudo halo
#

but can you actually get those posters signed

rapid forum
#

maybe one day after you finally get out of the underworld

craggy barn
#

why didn't zagreus just have them signed when ||the gods came for the feast||

rapid forum
#

You don't know the ||war of the wine dispensary?||

craggy barn
#

those ||caskets|| fought bravely

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but it wasn't enough

brisk trail
#

the game crashed in the final boss

pseudo halo
brisk trail
#

and he was near to die

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my life sucks

warped iron
#

😦

brisk trail
#

Eurydice best girl

cedar glen
twin vine
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Had an idea for some stuff:
New Game+ Aspects

craggy barn
#

uhh

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care to explain?

tranquil lichen
#

you begin the dame from 0 story but get to keep weapon aspects

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and weapons i guess

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maybe even keep darkness powers considering the "+" part

rapid forum
#

yea but I thought ||Pact of punishment|| is there to combat "power creep"

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?

craggy barn
#

would a "new game+" even work on a roguelike

twin vine
#

Once you complete ||The Final Ending||, Skelly will mention of each weapon acting weirdly once you first arrive, all within this order:
Shield, Gauntlet, Sword, Railgun, Bow, Spear

Unlocking these Aspects (Aspect of Aphrodites, Aspect of Ducks, Aspect of The Champion, Aspect of the Wild, Aspect of First Blood, and Aspect of False Thunder) requires you to pay 5 Titan Blood and preform certain challenges

craggy barn
#

ducks

rapid forum
#

ducks

plucky brook
cedar glen
twin vine
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Once unlocked, these "Joke" Aspects cannot be upgraded, but from room to room, will switch abilities gained from their according weapons' Aspects and their respective levels

craggy barn
#

betting "aspect of the wild" is just the master sword dusa

plucky brook
#

dear SGG/RNG,
stop putting spear as my 20% every second run,
I'm still not going to use it

KEKW

twin vine
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In order of their descriptions:
Aspect of Aphrodites: An prank done by Artemis, the Goddess of Love is victim to tomfoolery and fate
Aspect of Ducks: Simple gloves with what appear to be fowl attached onto them. Each duck emitting strange energies
Aspect of The Champion: It's fair to give them a challenge, right?
Aspect of The Wild: It is not the man whom makes history, but the men he kills with his rifle.
Aspect of First Blood: Ares once shown respect towards a man of war, but slowly understood the demons gnarring at his mind.
Aspect of False Thunder: The power of Zeus...but not from Zeus himself.

rapid forum
#

damn, those are some good descriptions

maiden belfry
rapid forum
#

also Aspect of First Blood.... sounds like someone I know

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hmmmmmmmmm

stone basin
#

@maiden belfry why you cna post images

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and i can't

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you have no roles like me

maiden belfry
#

im posting them as imgur links

stone basin
#

oh smart

maiden belfry
#

i dont have roles bc i ahvent bothered to get them

stone basin
#

but i didnt know they even allowed links xD

#

same

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how to get roles tho

maiden belfry
#

(im not sure they do, i prob shoudlnt have)

plucky brook
#

#bot-commands

twin vine
#

In terms of their appearances:
AoA is a glass shield, containing Aphrodites within. (She'll be responding within various situations, and while having her, Gaining her boons will instead show Artemis)
AoD is Dead Rising 3's Party Gloves, complete with rubber duckies
AoTC is Jax's Lantern (When fighting the champion duo, they'll take notice, and Theseus in particular will show distain that he's stooped so low to find himself dealing with this)
AoTW is a cowboy's rifle
AoFB is John Rambo's Bow (When using the perfect attack, the arrow will explode. Until you get the according upgrade, this will be only cosmetic)
AoFT is Raiden's Staff (When AoFT is using Aspect of Achilles, you teleport to your spear instead when using Raging Rush)

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What do you guys think?

brisk trail
#

tfw I tried to no boon run again and realizing I forgot to bring shackles when I reached Elysium

maiden belfry
brisk trail
#

back to the start again

pseudo halo
#

My controller got shrekt

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wtb better pc controller

brisk trail
#

a rock

merry moat
#

this game could use some race mode

fleet narwhal
#

something so heavily reliant on rng shouldnt have a race mode imo

maiden belfry
#

if the game can have an agdq speedrun it can have pvp runs

brisk trail
#

pvp would be cool

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or jce

#

a kind of horde mode

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A battle royale LOL bouldy

merry moat
#

Like a party game. Or Crash team racing

craggy barn
#

i mean this game already has a seemingly active speedrunning community

#

and this game isn't really as reliant on rng or getting good stuff compared to other games

#

so racing to beat the game vs another person would definitely work

#

i mean that's basically competitive speedrunning already

worldly canyon
#

Yeah obviously there's loads of RNG but I find it's not the kind where you can easily go wrong as a result

#

I love Darkest Dungeon but something about getting crit 5 times in a row doesn't make it feel like my fault if I lose

twin moat
#

hmmm

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maybe it's because of experience, but I haven't had much trouble playing darkest dungeon, at least on my second playthrough

craggy barn
#

there's already people competing in races to do a full run of wizard of legend and that game has loads more rng than hades

twin moat
#

However here getting to theseus without a single attack boon has really ruined many runs

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somehow I manage to get that type of runs quite often

hollow hawk
#

speaking of which

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i just got to final boss

craggy barn
#

such as procedural floor layouts, items varying from specifically powerful to specifically terrible, etc

hollow hawk
#

without a damn attack boon

craggy barn
#

man

twin moat
#

I feel you man

hollow hawk
#

or special boon, for that matter

maiden belfry
#

hope you swapped to shackle

hollow hawk
#

i feel like just suiciding the run

#

i only have one dd

#

was hoping to see patty

#

patty disappointed me

maiden belfry
#

never hope for pat

hollow hawk
maiden belfry
hollow hawk
#

im just gonna initiate the boss fight then see how it goes from there tbh

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i am using hidden shield aspect

twin moat
#

I feel like there should be a guaranteed attack boon or something 🤔

craggy barn
#

more damage would have infinitely been more worth it than a dd i assure you

hollow hawk
#

but my build sucks lmao

hollow hawk
#

the first three boons youll see will always be attack special cast

hollow hawk
twin moat
#

haha... that didn't happen to me

#

I've had special boons

#

but

#

with kind of useless specials

craggy barn
#

yeah the boons that take up slots on that thing at the left side of your screen always take priority and thus will always appear for you to take

worldly canyon
twin moat
#

like athena special

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on the shield

#

.

hollow hawk
#

lmao

#

that could actually be kinda decent on the chaos shield

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but any other shield

#

rip

twin moat
#

I was using zag

hollow hawk
#

ah rip

twin moat
rapid forum
#

Shattered shackle race dusa

worldly canyon
#

Poor Boba Fett. Crit 3 times by a mosquito

rapid forum
#

It kills most of the RNG for boons

craggy barn
#

do people still decide to take poms when doing boonless?

rapid forum
#

By not using boons dusa

hollow hawk
#

poms do provide 125 gold when you have no boons

#

so maybe

craggy barn
#

you just get a bunch of obols if you eat a pom and don't have any boons to level up

worldly canyon
twin moat
#

at least bloodmoon was kind of better than pvp

worldly canyon
#

I never did PVP

hollow hawk
rapid forum
#

Oh yea you'd have a lot of money by then

twin moat
worldly canyon
#

sounds of weird poetry

craggy barn
#

i could see taking poms still being very viable if you have hoarding slash

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because it's (mostly) just free extra damage

meager steppe
#

What reward do you get if you defeat ||hades|| on a heat level that is above your clear level with that weapon?

hushed schooner
#

um

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depends

#

also you need to spoiler that name

meager steppe
#

So many tags. My bad. thought it was everything after him.

hushed schooner
#

including him

meager steppe
#

Alright. So I know I don’t get the titan blood because I haven’t beaten the heat before, but surely they give you something, right?

#

Trying to maximize my progress. Playing higher heats than my escapes warrant to gather blood and make the weapons stronger so I can go back and escape otherwise.

hushed schooner
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|| the way it works if you go higher in heat than your current bounty level, you get the bounty rewards from your next level of heat on that weapon ||

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|| say you've cleared bow on 2 heat and you clear it 6 heat you'll get the rewards for 3 heat ||

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|| cranking up the heats beyond your current level doesn't do much for your progress outside of the skelly things||

craggy barn
#

i like how the ||skelly statues|| have varying levels of "worth it"

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first one gives you a few diamonds through a prophecy and an achievement, second one is an achievement and no in-game reward and the last one is just bragging rights

meager steppe
#

||So I escaped one time at heat 0 with fists. I beat hades next time with shield one heat 1. I get the blood from heat 0 and can stay at heat one and get blood the next escape with the shield as well?||

hushed schooner
#

|| yes||

meager steppe
#

Do I have that correct?

#

Gotcha.

hushed schooner
#

if you're worried about gathering resources

meager steppe
#

I mean. I’ve only escaped once.

twin moat
#

gotta say chat looks funny with all the spoiler black box

hushed schooner
#

|| if you go up bounties and farm heat on weapons you will get plenty of the higher tier resources ||

meager steppe
#

And pumping up aspects feels like it would help.

hushed schooner
#

yeah it does

#

upgrading aspects is great

#

the titan blood grind is probably the largest of all the high tier resources

#

you need like over 300 of it to max all weapon s

twin moat
#

What

craggy barn
#

i'd recommend turning on ||extreme measures 2, middle management and benefits package 1|| so you can get used to it early on and i'm pretty sure you can also get the ||first of skelly's prizes|| since it should already be around ||9 heat|| or so

twin moat
#

I didn't think it was that much

craggy barn
#

oh yeah

#

it's a lot

meager steppe
#

I mean. I gotta escape a second time don’t I to turn the heat up?

hushed schooner
#

i would recommend

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clearing with each weapon once

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0 || heat before going into heat||

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just so you get an idea of it and stuff

twin moat
#

^

craggy barn
#

doing runs with every weapon can help you get a feel for all of them

hushed schooner
#

and how to clear with each and youll get a reward for clearing with each weapon anywya

meager steppe
#

I’ve done 60 plus attempts using the dark weapon each time. I sorta get the mechanics. Just not that good apparently.

hushed schooner
#

i mean its ok everyone learns at thier own pace

twin moat
#

also I feel like picking up the dark ones is pretty good (when they're glowing) especially if you're aiming for one or two rewards but already picked up the ones before

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since it gives you darkness instead of bounty

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and the 20% makes it worth

craggy barn
#

dark thirst won't help you much if you're going for bounties

hushed schooner
#

my point is i dont think you should make the game harder for yourself if you havent cleared without those added difficulties

meager steppe
#

Agreed. I’ve noticed a big dip in darkness since upping heat.

twin moat
#

if you're aiming for the latest bounties it does tho

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say you died at the final boss

craggy barn
#

so if you're going for ||heat|| to get bounties just pick the weapon you feel like using, not the weapon with dark thirst on

twin moat
#

also if you have your healing set to darkness gain is pretty 👌

hushed schooner
#

point is

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take || heat at your own pace ||

meager steppe
#

Also haven’t turned in god mode. Still debating.

hushed schooner
#

feel free to if you need to

craggy barn
#

it's best to go one level at a time early on

meager steppe
#

Not sure if I need to yet.

craggy barn
#

once you've gotten a feel for some of the ||heat modifiers|| then it's better to ramp it up a little

meager steppe
#

Is one escape in 60 attempts (two near misses) amazingly slow?

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For a beginner?

ivory geode
#

its funny ||in the other supergiant games i usually look at the difficulty modifiers and go "ohoooo no i'm not messing with that" but in hades its like I Need The Stuff...||

craggy barn
#

quite possibly pretty decent if this is your first roguelike

#

but it doesn't really matter

cedar glen
#

hi i like hades from supergiant games

ivory geode
#

||the exception is like. whichever idol in bastion makes enemies deal contact damage. yudrig i think?||

meager steppe
#

First roguelite

craggy barn
#

ok yeah that's not bad at all

meager steppe
#

Well Solomon’s keep I guess, but haven’t played that in forever.

hushed schooner
#

one escape in 60 isnt bad

meager steppe
#

Does Diablo count?

hushed schooner
#

everyone has their own pace

ivory geode
#

theres no shame in taking a while to beat a game any

twin moat
#

unless you're isaac

ivory geode
#

||fair point, fair point||

craggy barn
#

my first roguelike was soul knight but i consider wizard of legend to be what really got me into the genre

ivory geode
#

mine was nuclear throne i think?

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why did i spoiler that

twin moat
#

mine was isaac I think

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the flash version

ivory geode
#

but similarly i think gungeon was what made me go Roguelikes Good

craggy barn
#

yeah gungeon was really what made me go "roguelike good :DD"

meager steppe
#

Yeah. So I’m not entirely sure I need godlike and I’ve had games ruined because they got too easy too fast.

twin moat
#

roguelike good indeed

craggy barn
#

i feel like roguelikes are just a blessed genre, it's like they're all just consistently good

ivory geode
#

oh don't worry that's not an issue here

hushed schooner
#

i mean

twin moat
#

I'm always hoping for new roguelikes to drop

hushed schooner
#

even if you did turn on god mode

ivory geode
#

nahhh you can definitely screw up making a roguelike

twin moat
#

since I've played most of them qq

hushed schooner
#

it wouldnt make the game too easy instantly

#

due to how it scales

craggy barn
hushed schooner
#

besides if you need it to beat the game you need so don't feel ashamed to take it

twin moat
#

I haven't played a bad roguelike yet

meager steppe
#

I hear ya. I just wished it scaled back as well.

twin moat
#

and boi I've played roguelikes

ivory geode
#

OKAY i technically don't have one but i can just tell in my bones

meager steppe
#

Like 5% lower resistance after each successful escape.

twin moat
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worst roguelike I've played was nuclear throne and it was pretty solid

craggy barn
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yeah that makes sense

twin moat
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just not that much content

craggy barn
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once you've gotten a clear with god mode the damage reduction just stops rising at that point and now decreases each time you do a full run

twin moat
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Also, how does god mode work? i've never used it myself

craggy barn
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great way of easing you off of those training wheels

craggy barn
meager steppe
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See I’ve never seen that part. Everyone talks about the scale up but never the scale down.

twin moat
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ohh, that's interesting

meager steppe
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So if I am successful they will take about reduction?

twin moat
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pretty good for new roguelike players

meager steppe
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Just want to make sure I fully understand before I push that button.

craggy barn
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if this game gets any updates past 1.0 i really hope they add that feature

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for each time you do a full clear with god mode on the damage reduction is reduced by 10% up until it's gone back down to just 20%

hushed schooner
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listen

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god mode isnt a permanent thing

meager steppe
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So not currently in game? No scale back?

hushed schooner
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you can turn it off and on as you please

meager steppe
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Does it reset each time you turn it off?

craggy barn
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yes but lowering the damage reduction can encourage players to take off the training wheels now that they're more experienced

meager steppe
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If I die 30 times it’s maxed. Is there ever a way to bring it back down?

craggy barn
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i believe not

meager steppe
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Or is that what the ||pact|| is for?

hushed schooner
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no

craggy barn
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you can nullify it by turning on ||herd labour|| up until the point where you don't feel like you don't need it anymore

meager steppe
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See. That’s my big concern. Still contemplating. I’ll probably do it eventually but I’m worried doing it too early is gonna cause me issues.

craggy barn
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...and there goes my suggestion for the damage reduction being reduced each time you clear

plucky brook
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spammy

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1-6

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go

craggy barn
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what-

plucky brook
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number, 1-6 worry_mask

craggy barn
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uhhhh

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4

plucky brook
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perf ty

twin moat
plucky brook
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me: can't decide what weapon to run
me: let's go bug the discord with questions that have no context

craggy barn
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damn

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i woulda picked 5 if i knew

plucky brook
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takes away the fun if you know KEKW

craggy barn
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michael

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1-4

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quick

meager steppe
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I get to try out ||Guan Yu|| next run.

plucky brook
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3

meager steppe
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Looking forward to that. Gotta adult for a while though.

craggy barn
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hera dusa

plucky brook
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oh god I was picking your aspect

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of course I was

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I don't even know bow aspects that well lmao

craggy barn
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no that was your aspect

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now you gotta use hera

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lol!!!!1111111

brazen lagoon
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Hera aspect best bow aspect

plucky brook
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brave of you to assume I own hera

brazen lagoon
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Don't @ me

meager steppe
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I don’t have hera yet.

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Only got the zag rail as well

craggy barn
meager steppe
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Seeeeeeee. This is why I upped the heat. Need that sweet sweet titan blood.

plucky brook
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@brazen lagoon im doing artemis Chiron poggies

twin moat
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I'm already 60 runs in and ||guan yu is the only secret aspect I have||

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is that slow af?

meager steppe
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I mean. It’s where I am. And I only have one escape as well. And I’m told that isn’t terrible.

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I also wish there was a way to respec blood

plucky brook
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I mean its technically possible to have no hidden aspects unlocked KEKW

meager steppe
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But I understand

twin moat
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Damn

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well

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I always talk to everyone

brazen lagoon
twin moat
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so hopefully it does something

craggy barn
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artemis on chiron works very well

plucky brook
craggy barn
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i could actually see aphro being real nice with chiron because if you get the legendary the target is just instantly charmed if you hit them with your special

plucky brook
craggy barn
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could heart rend possibly be better on zagreus than chiron

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because you can apply weak with special when crit with attack

twin moat
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ty