h1-discussion

[austere jacinth]

xDD

[ebon grove]

also absol can hack

[potent anvil]

Got a question
When you get to the Cerberus in your run, is it supposed to always have the item in the second chamber? From the lines in the game where Zagreus says he needs to find it and comments when he finds it quickly i assumed it's random which chamber will contain it, am i wrong?

[hushed schooner]

it changes every run

[ebon grove]

it's random between 2 and 5

[narrow hemlock]

it's any chamber from the 2nd to 5th

[hushed schooner]

it will never be in the first

[potent anvil]

Huh, i swear i have only ever gotten it in the 2nd
Thank you for the answer though

[ebon grove]

from countles runs, i only got it last once

the odds might be higher that you get it early

[trim wagon]

i usually clear every chamber there just for the items

[ebon grove]

yeah same

[trim wagon]

or boon, or boosts or whatever

[ebon grove]

buy that titan blood

[trim wagon]

depends on whether I want to risk taking damage

[potent anvil]

I try to clear them if i can afford to do so
I am still learning to deal with the rats and poison spitting dudes and sometimes struggle even with the cleanse

[trim wagon]

i just stand in one spot away until the poison disappates

it's easier if I'm using ranged weapons

[austere jacinth]

... On the Pokemon subject though, I'd probably give them all legendaries/mythics. On account of the godliness.

[naive latch]

I get the sack from my second chamber most times so I assume its just the most common drop rate is why you've only been getting it from the second so far.

[trim wagon]

I disagree on the grounds that Chaos would be Sigilyph or something

[potent anvil]

That might be the case

[austere jacinth]

Giratina works though.

[fleet narwhal]

just wondering

since fishing actually has a far far higher chance to net you a rare or legendary then stated on the wiki is this intentional or a bug

the actual odds of getting a legendary on a perfect catch is like half from my experience when it should be 1/21

[winter harbor]

the wiki says it's a bug that for some reason hasn;t been fixed and knows that the probability of catching rare/legendary much higher

[wispy flax]

||Orpheus sings again!||

And Ive got ||Lucifer|| aspect for Rail

[hushed schooner]

!

epic aspect

one of myfaves rail

had some amazing runs with it

[ivory geode]

so are enemies either nearby or distant at any given time? there's no "mid-range", so to speak?

[brazen lagoon]

there's a set distance for distant and nearby enemies so i think there is a middle range

[rich acorn]

Does unequipping the lambent plume make you lose it's effects?

[gritty roost]

ye

[rich acorn]

Like the move and dodge speed you earn?

[gritty roost]

yep

it's all or nothing type deal

[rich acorn]

Who knew that having a time limit could make you cracked out of your mind

[lyric wharf]

It can make you faster and better at the game.

[hearty bramble]

good with the plume too :)

[upper heron]

When offered a chaos portal or ||erebus|| portal, which one should I go in?

[lyric wharf]

||Erebus|| portal rewards are doubled/higher quality boons, base your choice on that but I'd say Chaos.

[acoustic plank]

Chaos stacks with boons, other boons don't always stack with each other in the same way except for specific interactions.

[granite ether]

Unless you're super close to the end shop chamber

Chaos is usually not worth the risk then

(unless you're speedrunning, using ||td|| or confident in your skills)

[acoustic plank]

Depends on which boss, but yes. I don't feel particularly threatened by hydra so sometimes I'll take chaos right before that particular fight.

Even when I have ||EM2|| on

[granite ether]

Hence the cavaets

[acoustic plank]

Yup yup

[winter harbor]

I like chaos for cast builds

[fleet narwhal]

+50% cast damage 😩

[winter harbor]

Chaos offered me 69% (nice) more cast damage for no special or extra cast in exchange for inferno bombs

I took the first one because I figured it was less punishing than inferno bombs on Hera

[haughty cape]

I FINALLY beat the final boss with the spear

Whew

That's all the weapons done; I suddenly have titan blood to spare. What's good to spend it on?

[topaz yew]

the spear was my first win too

its amazing when you get the right upgrades

i personally recommend Dion's attack with ares doom stacking its disgusting

again personal preference

[acoustic plank]

||Use the blood and get all the hidden aspects||

[fleet acorn]

me on my way to take "damage when you attack/special" before theseus like

[topaz yew]

Spoiler

[fleet acorn]

alternatively +trap damage on asphodel

[acoustic plank]

Sorry, mb

[topaz yew]

its good just an fyi

[haughty cape]

||I've unlocked all the available aspects, and the only hidden aspect I have available is the Guan Yu one.||

[topaz yew]

I ||need to unlock the hidden aspects i want my gauntlets to be god tier||

[fleet acorn]

i've ||only got to get hera lv.5 and then max zeus and then i'll have all my aspects maxed||

[acoustic plank]

The ||hidden aspects|| are all interesting.

[thin socket]

looking at spoilers is very tempting :))

[topaz yew]

So for the Bow ||The aspect that pretty much makes your q's auto aim is so good with Dion's hangover effect and if i can get a duo with aphrodite i can make the stacks up to 10 which is like 100 free damage a tick per sec||

[lyric wharf]

I just tried a normal boonless run, ||Hades|| was harder than expected, otherwise everything else just takes so long to kill even with maxed Achilles spear.

[topaz yew]

did you go the one thing

that gives you bonus damage

[lyric wharf]

Shattered Shackle yes.

[topaz yew]

oh damn

[lyric wharf]

I died against ||Hades in phase 2|| but I've got to buy a diamond at least.

What's nice with boonless tho is that you can literally buy everything else.

The battles limited items helps.

I bought the one that increases trap damage, bombs be dealing 3000 damage to enemies.

[topaz yew]

I love Poseidon's Duo's they are such a huge buff

and i cant use the traps i hate them

[lyric wharf]

Which duos ?

[topaz yew]

Sweet Nectar and Exclusive Access

[lyric wharf]

Poseidon boons are the ones I like the least, I don't like much the knockback ones, better with ranged tho apparently.

[topaz yew]

Oh yeah the knock back ones are eh

but the bonus loot is always a +1

[lyric wharf]

However lately I had the boon that increases damage when knocked against wall and its great but I'm not sure if you can knockback bosses.

[topaz yew]

OMG

YES

[lyric wharf]

I'm a lot into Dionysus/Aphrodite/||Demeter||/Ares boons.

[topaz yew]

agreed

I just got Low tolerance

Im happy rn

[lyric wharf]

Dionysus cast build I love it.

[topaz yew]

Agreed

[lyric wharf]

I'm a lot into Hermes boons as well but I guess that's for everyone since you can always get his boons.

[topaz yew]

he does so much damage

hermes boons are interesting

I have his god gauge 1%=1sec

[lyric wharf]

Artemis/Poseidon/Zeus are the ones I use the least for now.

[analog wren]

is the ||extreme measures 4 hades theme|| anywhere online

[lyric wharf]

However I've been using Artemis today for a ||Demeter|| cast build and its really nice.

[winter harbor]

I don’t use ares a lot because he has two different branches, might get offered boons for one branch while I want the other

[lyric wharf]

I'm a lot into doom with Ares.

[brazen lagoon]

go to youtube and search for the unseen ones

[analog wren]

its always a fun build

[lyric wharf]

Especially on bow, doom is awesome there.

Any bow aspects honestly.

[analog wren]

yea doom special on ||chiron aspect|| with stacking , fun stuff

[lyric wharf]

For Dire Misfortune you can get closer to enemies and use special with doom on it.

[analog wren]

also thanks

[lyric wharf]

With Chiron and ||Rama|| the special target one enemy.

[topaz yew]

MY favorite specials are between Artemis and ||Demeter||

uuuuh

you should spoiler that

[lyric wharf]

Which.

[topaz yew]

||Charon because i didnt know he had a special lmfao||

[lyric wharf]

Oh I actually meant Chiron bow lol.

[topaz yew]

OH

[lyric wharf]

Lol.

[topaz yew]

thank you

[lyric wharf]

You're welcome.

[wispy flax]

I still get nightmares about the ||Pillars in the Hades fight||. Is there any way to deal with them without screwing my Defiance stacks?

[topaz yew]

WTF

NGL

||I accidently unlocked the 4th aspect to Varatha ||

good times

[waxen juniper]

Accidentally? Welp... nice I think? :P

[topaz yew]

well let me explain

I wasnt paying attention at all

||I get the special dialogue like something all seeing from our little friends achilles then bam 4th aspect unlocked i probably met the conditions but idk how||

[waxen juniper]

Well, the dialogue is the very last condition

[topaz yew]

yeah but i didnt expect you know to get that one especially when i wasnt focusing it

[waxen juniper]

I know I accidentally got the sword, spear, fists, and shield by just playing the game. The last two I used a guide for

[topaz yew]

oh okay didnt expect it to work like that tbh

[waxen juniper]

But the last two was when I finally learned that it wasn't a random occurence. :P

[topaz yew]

oh

wow

[empty sphinx]

Butterfly balls are easy

[waxen juniper]

Well....

They are easy by themselves, but they can be a painful distraction from everything else

[empty sphinx]

I don't get the struggle

I use twinfist a lot but it's no sweat like just kill the warrior souls first it's not hard

Just punch the butterflies

[topaz yew]

idk why but athena and this sword is it

getting athenas special and having that every hit is +2 health is great with Aphrodite weakness makes ||Hades|| my punk

[frank meteor]

Hiiiii

[somber harness]

omg

i got the epic minimum boon

[frank meteor]

Played Hades intently for the 1st time last night.
Putting it off for months...I WAS THOROUGHLY impressed

[somber harness]

it truly is beautiful

[topaz yew]

it is highly great

[pseudo halo]

Truly GOTY material

[topaz yew]

if you need any advice just ask away

|| for Aegis is the aspect of chaos or zeus better?||

[brazen lagoon]

exclusive access is one of the best boons in the game easily

[frank meteor]

I only wish it featured online servers for multiplayer. To experience these moments together

[somber harness]

and i got in the fifth chamber

[topaz yew]

yooooo

SHHHHHHh

[somber harness]

is it really a spoiler

[topaz yew]

i mean

[hushed schooner]

don't need to spoiler those aspects

[somber harness]

if i try not to say the name

[topaz yew]

really?

[hushed schooner]

yeah

only the hidden ones

[topaz yew]

oh

so which one is better im trying for a shield run

[somber harness]

i dont know i just spam dash strike

[hushed schooner]

also both chaos and

[brazen lagoon]

zeus is better imo

[frank meteor]

Pshhh thanks

[hushed schooner]

zeus are good for special

[brazen lagoon]

but try both and see which one you prefer

[somber harness]

i do like zeus though

[hushed schooner]

but like it depends on the build

[topaz yew]

wth

[hushed schooner]

got any god ideas

[frank meteor]

I luv shield rank

[topaz yew]

your name is considered profanity

lol

[somber harness]

i like zeus shield because you can trap some enemies in it

and just attack them while they spin

[brazen lagoon]

probably because there's sh*t in their name lol

[topaz yew]

really thats astounding

[brazen lagoon]

call them taka or something

[topaz yew]

okay got it

[frank meteor]

Aegis right...uh I throw it all over. Chaining 4+ hits in 1 throw is amazing

[topaz yew]

also biq question

what are the best boons for a shield run per say

[somber harness]

wait

[topaz yew]

cause i hate this thing

lol

[somber harness]

oh yeah i forgot that

[hushed schooner]

uh

[somber harness]

no aegis is better

[hushed schooner]

if you want a fun chaos run

i mean zeus

[somber harness]

wait

[topaz yew]

OH okay ty

[hushed schooner]

drunken flourish on zeus shield is good

[somber harness]

now im foncused

[frank meteor]

I got news for you...

[hushed schooner]

applies lots of hangover

[frank meteor]

Yuuuup drunken flourish from Dionysus is all you need

[hushed schooner]

yeah

zeus special is good

[topaz yew]

okay got it

[hushed schooner]

chaos shield is good for shotgunning

like you use them at close range buffed alot of damage

[frank meteor]

Zagreus is a minor god of rebirth right...

[somber harness]

hoarding slash + side hustle is just

[frank meteor]

Is there a FPS limit for this game engine ?
Like too many FPS will bug out?

[topaz yew]

once in a while for me i have a small screen stop but like this is literally if there is too many frames on my laptop

and no

too many wont

[waxen juniper]

I just had a Than room with 38 enemies in Tartarus!

[frank meteor]

Nice

[topaz yew]

are the percentages compunding anyone know

[frank meteor]

I get those hiccups too

[topaz yew]

yeah then your fine

[frank meteor]

Great

[topaz yew]

Yes i just got the dialogue from our bull friend so ayo

OMG

okay

so

i change my mind

the shield is actually really good...

i may have underestimated it cause

it has such great blocking capabilities

[hushed schooner]

yep

[topaz yew]

first boon i got was great catch

im about to be rich

huge catch*

[hushed schooner]

oh

that run

yes fish

[topaz yew]

i am having a Aphrodite and Ares run ahhhhhh im so happy

[acoustic plank]

I never manage to get Ares where I want him. If I want it on attack its special, if I want him on special it's attack. Every time. Without fail.

I'll be halfway through a run with everything I need except doom on special/attack and he'll offer me random boons that I don't care about

[topaz yew]

dumb question have you been using the boons?

excuse me the relic thingies

Hermes cast boost is actually good

[gilded leaf]

i was just doing a run when thanatos showed up and said “you’ve come this far zagreus, now lets make sure you go the distance”. is that a reference to the disney hercules movie?

[craggy barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/800226367793922080/Hades_68.png

:(

[winter harbor]

That’s why approval process is the worst heat you can take

[topaz yew]

i took it and got extremely lucky

but thats a huge

Riperino

[craggy barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/800227057270259772/Hades_69.png

:)

[median schooner]

nice

[topaz yew]

ay

today is a good day

beat ||hades 3 times in a row :)||

[brazen lagoon]

Good job

[topaz yew]

its hard and easy

his attack patterns become more predicatable but sometimes they just still catch you off by a little

[ancient ivy]

the rest of the members in my orchestra recently discovered hades over break and we've been having Hades Hursdays on discord ever since

[brazen lagoon]

Maybe yall could recreate some of the songs there

[ancient ivy]

haha i hadnt considered that but we actually could (once covid lifts up), since it's a vgm orchestra

[brazen lagoon]

Some of the songs would sound great on an orchestra

[topaz yew]

if you do

the orchestra

PROMISE ME

you can get the mods to pin it

id love to hear

[ancient ivy]

if we do it, i'll definitely try to show it off in this server haha

won't be for a while, if at all, of course

[topaz yew]

understandable

Heart seeking bow or adament rail

the last two i need to officially beat the game with every weapon and i hate both equally

[winter harbor]

Have you tried the bow’s other aspects?

I hated bow at first but Chiron and Hera are both solid

Zag aspect can be good too once you master power shots

[topaz yew]

the only aspect i like it the special with the targeting thats it

[winter harbor]

I think I like hidden bow the best, but Hera can hit very hard with casts

[topaz yew]

probably but still i just

dont like range

i prefer to melee like a damn maniac

[winter harbor]

(I still leveled it up to max first before using because it’s a pain to wait for your casts to drop)

[topaz yew]

true

||Bouldy is best character in game dont @ me||

[winter harbor]

Even with the thing fully leveled, it still feels like it takes a little long for casts to drop without quick reload from hermes

[topaz yew]

EXACTLY

i cant tolerate that

but to each their own

[narrow hemlock]

why are there so many bouldy emotes 😭

[topaz yew]

dont ask

[versed verge]

same as dusa the other night

[craggy barn]

[topaz yew]

[plucky brook]

rng really trolling me lately
no key duo for achilles run last night
now I don't get ||artic blast|| after going full on ||demeter||

[waxen juniper]

Oof

[topaz yew]

YES

4 TIMES

HNNNG

i almsot got screwed over against ||Hades|| cause of twin shot

IM GOING for 5 ina row

after this is going to sleep cause of work

[prisma wind]

Why aren't there more?

[acoustic plank]

Yes, every time I want Ares boons I take the keepsake. Most of the time I end up taking the cast, but then I'm just doing a blade rift build for the 40th time.

[topaz yew]

jesus that sounds awful your best bet then is the reroll

[acoustic plank]

Working on it. I invested in the other reroll first, but yeah. Guess it's just some bad RNG.

[uneven canyon]

Can anyone else NOT deal with spears?

I like the Guan Yu spear, it looks cool and I love the health sapping ability it has, but I hate the spear still

[topaz yew]

I actually like the spear

i go Zagreaus aspect cause its the best in my opinion

[uneven canyon]

it seems like its the best, yeah

[waxen juniper]

Achilles and Hades are pretty equal for me

[topaz yew]

||Why did Zag and Dion just pull a joke on our buddy Orpheus? Pain||

[waxen juniper]

Because there's gullible written on the cieling

[acoustic plank]

||Guan Yu|| is the worst spear. I have like 20 problems with it.

[waxen juniper]

It's not bad, just punishing

[acoustic plank]

||50% less health and no way to properly leach life without sacrificing tons of dps is awful||

[waxen juniper]

Ummm, spin attack gives health...

[acoustic plank]

Without sacrificing dps

[topaz yew]

Yeah its not worth it unless your planning on going on board with Aphrodite and Dem because they offer the boons that boost your healing by a lot

then even after youd have to go for Revenge boons to get the full value of healing

along with weakening so you dont get one shot by bosses

[waxen juniper]

Bruh, just don't get hit 😆

[acoustic plank]

If you go into the final boss with 3 death defiances and 300hp, that's effectively 750 hp. If you take that spear, you have only 375

The damage isn't really any better than the other spear options

[brazen lagoon]

Cleared with guan yu once

Never again

[acoustic plank]

Mathematically it's bad.

Imagine you go into the final boss and get hit for 375hp immedietly. That's what it's like. And you're not getting that back healing 1hp per hit.

[topaz yew]

why the sword has a better heal return rate

[waxen juniper]

Mathematically it's less health... that doesn't make it worse.

[acoustic plank]

Yeah the other good slow weapon (hidden sword) has a defense special, more HP, and actually hits like a truck

And you can heal

[brazen lagoon]

Actually guan yu is easily the worst spear

[waxen juniper]

I dunno. So far I just hear people complaining about health

[topaz yew]

Maybe just amybe

[acoustic plank]

Its also slow

[topaz yew]

if it was a defense spear

it would be better

instead of a balls deep one

[acoustic plank]

If it healed 3 or 4 times more than it does, it would be an ok option

[topaz yew]

its high risk low reward

[acoustic plank]

Still wouldn't be S tier, but decent

[waxen juniper]

Bruh.... Alright, this isn't getting anywhere.

[topaz yew]

lmao

[acoustic plank]

Tell us why you like it then. I'm 100% willing to change my mind about it

I want to like it, that's why I hate it

[brazen lagoon]

Why use guan yu when literally every other spear is better

[narrow hemlock]

its all subjective at the end of the day. for every aspect that is someone's worst/most hated, there will always be someone out there who considers that their fav/best

[waxen juniper]

Ooo, poseidon on attack for guan yu seems silly

[waxen juniper]

Yep! I really dislike zag rail but I know a lot of people around here who love it.

[topaz yew]

I

hate

ranged

lol

but

i can tolerate the bow now

[warped iron]

bow best though

😩

[waxen juniper]

Well, that's a significant list of aspects :p

[topaz yew]

i used to dislike the shield

[waxen juniper]

Bow is probably my strongest

[topaz yew]

but after beating ||Hades|| literally shielding his damage its a cake walk

[brazen lagoon]

Bow is good but not the best

[warped iron]

bow best

[topaz yew]

My gauntlets are the best

[brazen lagoon]

No

[topaz yew]

Imma twin fist

everything

[warped iron]

ur wrong 🙁

[brazen lagoon]

Yes

Rail and fist best

[brazen lagoon]

No u

[topaz yew]

Twin fist just obliterate

[waxen juniper]

If I had to choose, I'm a sucker for spear

[topaz yew]

Spear is 2nd fav

[brazen lagoon]

Spears pretty good as well

[topaz yew]

nothing can top the Muda Muda combo.

[warped iron]

[brazen lagoon]

Shields my least favourite

Too slow imo

[topaz yew]

With Ares and Aphrodite

the shield is in my 3rd

cause it had great upgrades

[waxen juniper]

It feels weak sometimes for me

[brazen lagoon]

Yeah

[waxen juniper]

Like I've never really had a chaos shield run that absolutely slaps

[brazen lagoon]

The damage output feels inadequate

[waxen juniper]

I do like dredge flight with doom though.

[brazen lagoon]

Doesn't do enough damage to justify its slower than normal speed

[waxen juniper]

I love chained doom effects

[topaz yew]

Yup

chained doom is so good

Usually my go too is Ares/Aphrodite

[waxen juniper]

I had chained skewer with a doom special and it was such a spicy meme!

[topaz yew]

ahhh

sounds so good

doom is an over powered stat

along with hangover

[waxen juniper]

I don't have an effect I do not like

[topaz yew]

the only one

I can arguably say

I dont like is ironically

[waxen juniper]

Dont say it...

[topaz yew]

the one i use most

[waxen juniper]

Now you have my interest. Maybe do say it

[topaz yew]

which is Aphrodite Crush Shot

[waxen juniper]

Ohhh, crush shot slaps!

[topaz yew]

and let me explain my reasoning

[waxen juniper]

Also, I was referring to effects like weak, chained lightning, etc.

[topaz yew]

Oh okay

[waxen juniper]

But you can still go on

[topaz yew]

but overall Crush shot is great and my only problem was its range

until you unlock blown kiss

[waxen juniper]

Play it with fiery presence.

You're welcome 😆

[topaz yew]

You dont need Fiery if you kill fast enough

OH yeah and i got the cast speed upgrade

[waxen juniper]

But the big damage!

[topaz yew]

that gave me 60

5

60%

and i was firing like a damn shotgun

today

those 3 are a powerhouse

[waxen juniper]

Ah. Crush shot with fiery presence doesn't need too much burst. You can spread it out quite nicely

[topaz yew]

hmmm okay i might

as of right now though

im busy trying to think of how im gonna win with this bull crap rail gun

i am to tired to function

[waxen juniper]

Which rail?

[topaz yew]

I am going with zagreaus

[waxen juniper]

The most efficient way to do it is with lightning strike

[topaz yew]

didnt consider that

what would be the best in terms of burst damage though?

[waxen juniper]

Lightning strike

[topaz yew]

So

go full zues?

[brazen lagoon]

Zeus + rail is always a good combo

[waxen juniper]

Pretty much

[topaz yew]

I had a run like that today it was fun cause i got his legendary

[waxen juniper]

I tried arctic blast with it and it was just alright tbh

[brazen lagoon]

Might wanna go with poseidon/ ||demeter|| special

Get their duos

If you're going with poseidon get his dash too

[waxen juniper]

Oh cold fusion is really nice with it

[topaz yew]

hey@waxen juniper i posted it in victory boasting

the zues game it was fun

[waxen juniper]

Did you finish already???

[topaz yew]

no

no

it was an earlier game

with what you said

just i did it with the shield instead of the rail gun

technically my shield was a rail gun

[waxen juniper]

Ah. Yeah going full zeus is just really good!

[topaz yew]

yeee

[waxen juniper]

Nice run too!

[topaz yew]

I know i was upset

Cause my shield had the fast charge and the blast

so i litrally just had Aoe and Blocking

with the shield bouncing aspect

A1

[waxen juniper]

Oh damn! You went FULL Zeus

[topaz yew]

Yup on average base damage was doing 300

[waxen juniper]

Not upset by that

[topaz yew]

Zues damage procs with that were around 600 with a decent combo

and overal the aoe and chain bouncing was

Bliss

[waxen juniper]

Sounds beautiful

Now do a full dem. build

Go big or go home!

[topaz yew]

true

alright yall though gn

[waxen juniper]

Night Zabulus

[winter river]

Sooooo..... I have almost all the pact bounties done. 3 acheivements to go. 2 house decorations to buy. 5 music stand pieces. I finished the epilogue, got all the prophesies, completed all the relationship dialogues and got all the heart meters filled. In short, I have almost done everything in the game and whats left is to try and get some competitive scores. Yall think I should try to get into high heat or speed runs? What do you think is harder: 50+ heat or sub 10 times? Whats more fun?

[granite ether]

try both and decide from there what you enjoy more ^_^

[manic bobcat]

Sub 10 is considerably easier

[winter river]

Ya I'm experimenting right now. Just mostly curious what different people have found most appealing longer term.

[prisma wind]

They honestly share a lot in common when it comes to gameplay approaches, though

[manic bobcat]

I don't really have to try to get sub 12 tbh

Sub 10 is doable with some grind def

50+ is gruesome though

[winter river]

Igt or rta?

[granite ether]

igt

[manic bobcat]

Igt

[granite ether]

I don't think there's ever been a sub 10 RTA run

[manic bobcat]

Yeah no

That would be crazy

[winter river]

Whats a good rta time?

[manic bobcat]

15 is fast

Though we don't exactly have single run RTA

You can do multiple weapon RTA

For speedrun categories, that is

[rapid bear]

yo

[winter river]

Ya, all weapons seems like a fun category

[rapid bear]

finally got my new highest run yest

[manic bobcat]

Yeah

[granite ether]

you can sort the single run leaderboards by RTA though :3

[manic bobcat]

Nice!

[rapid bear]

reached till Theseus and the Minotaur

[winter river]

Huzzag!

[rapid bear]

loving the claws!!

:D

[manic bobcat]

Asterius and other guy?

[rapid bear]

i had to go after that run but i got enuf keys to unlock the next weapon 👀

ill unlock it when i play today cant wait to see what its like snodnisad

[winter river]

Congrats!

[plucky brook]

Good work

[faint flint]

https://youtu.be/kw6lLBkXVBw

[brazen lagoon]

hephaestus just cant catch a break

[novel wasp]

@faint flint tbh he would also smudge off ares

[craggy barn]

hepatitis

[novel wasp]

i also, cant spell his name

i just call him heppy

[craggy barn]

heps

[inland heath]

Charged shot is so cheesey for victory

[deep oasis]

Good Riddance.. chef's kiss

[brisk trail]

Did everyone else thought that Artemis was wearing some animal hide on her head as some kind of cameo for hunting? I did, until the bond icon showed me it was her Hair after all this time lmao

[craggy barn]

what do you mean it's hair

[brazen lagoon]

it is

[winter river]

I knew it was hair. You can see a braid.

[brisk trail]

I still cannot see that it's a hair lol, I'm sorry . The Icon on the Bond showed me it was tho

The color of her skin and the hair overlaps to me, idk, it's just a very weird visual

And the fur coat kinda had me to assume she has brown hair as depicted on Smite

[maiden belfry]

are yall telling me you thought this was fur https://i.imgur.com/73vDE3P.png

[brisk trail]

Are you telling me that it isn't possible to braid a fur?

[maiden belfry]

can we mention artemis's owl friends rq

its more like

its clearly the same clor as her hair

[brisk trail]

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/animal-braid-creative-hairstyle-8__605.jpg

Her green hair was kinda hard to see for me

ANd did I mentioned I finally noticed on the Bond Icon?

[maiden belfry]

i just hope im not the only one, upon seeing aphro for the first time the reaction was "SHES NAKEY"

[brisk trail]

I never said that it wasn't her hair

ok you're just mocking me now

[maiden belfry]

I'm not in the slightest

i just have adhd and swap topics fast

[brisk trail]

That screams sarcasm to me right there

[maiden belfry]

i assure you its not

in the most sincere tone i can give across the internet

[brisk trail]

Ok, just to make it clear. It's just like this but animal fur and braided
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/2b/ea/472bea16be551b2cf394d1cdbec54d99--daria-werbowy-headdress.jpg

[brazen lagoon]

how you gon braid animal fur

[brisk trail]

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/animal-braid-creative-hairstyle-8__605.jpg

[brazen lagoon]

ok so you think that artemis went and braided animal fur on her head because...?

and if thats fur wheres her hair

she bald?

[brisk trail]

how did you not look closely as possible on this image?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/2b/ea/472bea16be551b2cf394d1cdbec54d99--daria-werbowy-headdress.jpg

It's just an example

not an exact replica of her hair

I just thought it was like that

[brazen lagoon]

idk if you've noticed but there's no hair hanging down

[brisk trail]

I never CLAIMED that it wasn't her hair the whole time

[craggy barn]

finally got bad call

now the last thing to do is max out all the keepsakes

[brisk trail]

welp, I guess I'm just the only dumb one here

even tho I never CLAIMED anything to be a fact, just a thought

[plucky brook]

thank you zag, i'm well aware that ||they're both here!|| I can hear it, I don't need an update every time you enter this damn room

[brazen lagoon]

he just likes talking to himself

[plucky brook]

he really do

[main arch]

How does god mode work

Like

[maiden belfry]

you die, you get damage resistance

[main arch]

Ohhh

[brazen lagoon]

20% damage resistance

everytime you die you get +2%

[main arch]

So like

Does it add up to 100%?

Lol

[brazen lagoon]

dont think so

max is 80%

i think

[main arch]

Ah lol

Thats super op either way

How do u even lose with that

[brazen lagoon]

idk man

seems like you'd have to intentionally lose

[main arch]

Lmao

[lost remnant]

What do bonds do btw?

[maiden belfry]

its mostly just asthetic

just to show youve maxed affnity with that chrachter

[craggy barn]

it also adds a little pin to their respective keepsakes

just to show your progress with "making friends along the way"

[lost remnant]

alright thanks

[brazen lagoon]

bonds are for flexing purposes only

[maiden belfry]

[inland heath]

Inquiry: Do dodge bonuses add together?

[craggy barn]

yes

[inland heath]

So if I have

Lambent Plume: +12% dodge chance
Hermes Boon: +10% dodge

So... +22% Dodge

Right?

[brazen lagoon]

ye

[craggy barn]

zag fists + lambent plume + greater evasion = somewhere around 30-60%+ evade chance

not counting second wind

[hexed shore]

How long does second wind last and

How long does smoldering air take by itself

[ivory geode]

||it's a reference to the ancient greek religion of Orphism, look it up||

[ivory geode]

idk i think it's fun to use, hits like a truck

[brazen lagoon]

i just think it's really inferior compared to the other spears

except for zag spear

[ivory geode]

stygius but it has ||secret-er fifth aspect... Aspect of Red....||

somewhat related, last night i was thinking abt how the infernal arms would work as kid icarus weapons
idk if stygius would be a blade or if it'd go the magnus route and be a club

Aegis Orbitars.... Malphon Claws... Varatha Staff... Coronacht Bow... Exagryph Cannon

[novel wasp]

Calling zag spear trash

[upbeat sable]

So when is Zagreus getting a glock?

[novel wasp]

Daring today arent we

He already has a comically large glock

[ivory geode]

alternatively they could be named more like Chaos Orbitars, idk if Twin Claws sounds right, Eternal Staff, Seeker Bow, and Adamant Cannon

[novel wasp]

Now i just need a kitchen knife

[upbeat sable]

Hades 2: Zagreus has a god damn knife

Take notes, Supergiant

[rapid forum]

that line is funny. Zag has a knife that was damned by a certain god.

a god damned knife

:DDDDDD

[novel wasp]

Aspect of Kiwame Japan

He just makes the knife out of any mobs

Also for aspect of Jesus on gun whenever you fire the gun Our God Is An Awesome God bass boosted plays

Also it probably fires rainbow or something

[jolly laurel]

when does Persephone get into the codex? i won 3 runs and she's still not in there

[brazen lagoon]

after credits i think

[jolly laurel]

when are those?

[upbeat sable]

||clear 10 times||

[jolly laurel]

ah okay, thanks

[steady gate]

So uh

What is the game plan of the bow

It's the only weapon I do not understand

[haughty cape]

Run away a lot

If something is shooting at you, the special is REALLY good at clearing projectiles.

(You can't clear the ground waves from Asphodel wavemakers, but many, many other projectiles will get destroyed by the bow special)

[upbeat sable]

learn the timing of the Power Shot

that's the most important thing for the big numbers

[haughty cape]

I strongly recommend Ares boons on either the attack or special.

[upbeat sable]

Athena Special tho

[haughty cape]

Being able to spray down a roomful of enemies and then have them all get hit with Doom is incredible

Yes, Athena special is another good choice; so is Aphrodite attack.

Poseidon attack is also good!

[steady gate]

Thanks

[haughty cape]

Oh, also, your primary attack charges slightly faster if you start pressing the button during a dash

So you actually can dash-attack enemies

If you've met Orpheus, gift him nectar for a keepsake that boosts damage against enemies at a distance

Any cast is good except Aphrodite's. A powered up dash isn't really that necessary; Athena's is clearly the best but Ares does ok as well, particularly against certain small enemies that chase you.

[steady gate]

I see

Ares boons forever hahaha

I like artemis boons

[haughty cape]

Artemis boons are good, because you can put them on any attack of any weapon. More damage is just always good; "dead" is the best status effect.

[hollow hawk]

arty boons arent that good with weapons that attack slowly though

e.g, the shield or the spear

[maiden belfry]

u wot m8?

[hollow hawk]

they are also meh with non-chiron aspects of the bow

[maiden belfry]

artemis boons with chaos shield

[severe smelt]

I hope charlie is ded serious

[ivory geode]

||like red from transistor. cuz nova smash reminds me a lot of crash()||

[maiden belfry]

that'd be some cool tie in dlc
i thought you meant like ||an upgraded form of zagreus, mainly bc alecto calls him redblood||

i was like "how have i not seen this"

[severe smelt]

||You had he hoping for a second you could actually walk around with a transistor.|| 😢

[ivory geode]

the emphasis was on the "but" there

[severe smelt]

Someone should mod that in tho

[upbeat sable]

Arty boons are dope with World Splitter Stygius

[maiden belfry]

arty boons on chiron bow

with the hammer buff that make sucessive hits harder

[hollow hawk]

i got a recent insane build with the chiron bow

defeated all bosses in like under a minute or so

[hollow hawk]

and with the one that fires +4 shots

[maiden belfry]

oof load at maximum

[hollow hawk]

i was laughing so hard beating ||dad|| with it

[fringe geode]

Hi, got a little question ! I just noticed that I only install the test branch version. I have maaaaaaany hours on it now. Do I have to begin all again on "the real one" or can I transfer my save into the the "real game" ? x) Thanks a lot !

(I'm on epic game store)

[hollow hawk]

that might be something to ask in #h1-tech-support i think

[fringe geode]

Ok ! I'll do it then. Ty 😄

[ivory geode]

after i finish this bastion crossover art set im gonna make some Kid Icarus Crossover Content because i like kid icarus :)

i feel like legally i gotta draw twinbellows and cerberus together

[maiden belfry]

man

sakurai

drop smash

give me new kid icarus on switch

[ivory geode]

for now he deserves to take his break

pit being confused as to why thanatos isn't a weird clown

[maiden belfry]

"why is thanatos hot"

palutena and nyx being the opposite girl friends

[ivory geode]

and honestly i could see some ki enemies fitting in alright in hades
(design-wise, anyway, a lot of them mechanically function in ways that wouldnt really work cuz of the Different Gameplay)

daphnes, leoxes, shemums, potentially clubberskulls

[haughty cape]

So, what were you all doing when you realized that the acronym of the Fated List of Minor Prophecies is "FLOMP"?

[ivory geode]

flomp....

makes me think of flumphs from dnd

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/c/c4/Flumph-2e.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180622214402

arguably it'd be "FLMP" since words like "of" are often omitted from acronyms/initialisms

[austere jacinth]

Or FLoMP.

[cinder lichen]

I want the fish from Asphodel as pets.

[fleet narwhal]

aside from burning a hole through your tanks theyre pretty cute

[rapid forum]

idk, flame eater sounds like it's gonna eat flames

not make it

[craggy gust]

I dont know where to ask this but why does hermes have two types of symbols. One with the pointy wings and the other just the plain wings

Like when i was starting i thought those were different gods so i just skipped it

[twilit bridge]

he does? i never realised

[brisk trail]

48/49 steam achievements

[bold lotus]

Hello, i think i stumbled on some kind of bug, where can i report it ? Thank you!

[brisk trail]

Just need to actually get to the end of the story (this time for real, true-true-true ending, I swear this time)

[brisk trail]

F6 in game or something like that

[bold lotus]

Oh thanks!

[brisk trail]

Could be F7, don’t quote me

[sharp fossil]

it’s F10

you were close

[gritty roost]

[bold lotus]

found it, thank you !

[craggy barn]

is there a mod that lets you apply any hammer that you've already gotten in the courtyard?

would be nice if there was an option to try out different hammer combos pre-run

[dapper oracle]

If I keep the adamant arrowhead equipped, do I get artemis again next biome?

or does it only force artemis to appear once?

[brazen lagoon]

Once

[dapper oracle]

Thanks

[winged leaf]

Hi what is the probability for "||Charon Boss Fight"|| ?
I got the chance to trigger it only 1 time and I played hundreds of hours..

[celest saddle]

there will no longer be percy jackson kids, but rather hades kids going into the future

[maiden belfry]

man

im slowly realizing i dont like any of the shield aspects that much

[brazen lagoon]

Sadge

Percy jackson is GOATed

[brisk trail]

Keyboard lads, what do you change about the default key bindings?

I put dash on L Shift and Special on Space...

[celest saddle]

i put special on m5 and call on m4

didnt change anything else

[brazen lagoon]

Dash is mb5, special is q

Summon is mb4

[trail plover]

The reload button for the rail never seems to work for me. I’m playing on the Switch. I press R and nothing happens.

[hollow hawk]

||it only occurs in mid biome shops (so it can never come in the shops that are before region bosses), and its chance is 1/3||

[lavish karma]

||Am I in the right place to ask about forging bonds with gods? I've gotten to the locked icon on several gods (Ares, Poseidon), and I think I've done the requirements for forging bonds. For Ares, I killed 10k dudes, and I think I even got a dialogue where Ares mentioned it. However, the icon still is locked. Am I missing something?||

[lavish karma]

On switch, the button is the right joystick. You press it down as a button and it reloads. It's not the R triggers

[severe smelt]

Man enemy spawning feels so sluggish after sitting on ||FO4 ||for a while. -_- (I need some ||ambrosia ||so having to sit on lower ||heat ||a bit)

[hushed schooner]

|| fo4???||

[severe smelt]

Sorry, ||FO2||

[hushed schooner]

ah

[severe smelt]

The % is 40 so I'm like "that's 4 right" "no, no it's not"

[hushed schooner]

imagine

[worldly canyon]

Oh.

[hushed schooner]

|| fo4, worth 12 heat and increases enemy move speed and attack speed by 80 percent ||

[severe smelt]

somewhere, a speedrunner salivates at the thought of ||80% FO||

[worldly canyon]

|| Charon boss fight. Just died in like 2 minutes because I was in Tartarus ||

[hushed schooner]

wow

[worldly canyon]

And had 100 hp

[hushed schooner]

yeah i would recommend

going at least asphodel

[severe smelt]

||Charon ||is a stronk

I have yet to kill him with a bow at all 😐

[worldly canyon]

I was a bit sus of how it said || "borrow" but wasn't expecting him to fight me ||

|| Hypnos is one of two known people to beaten with Charon's oar ||

[trail plover]

Yeah, I realized the game was trying to ask me to press the joystick, hahaha, thanks!

[brisk trail]

cleared elysium with extreme conditions but didnt get the achievement???

[sudden rapids]

is there a way to see how much titan blood is in a weapon

[ivory geode]

idk about directly but you can look up the costs on the wiki and do some quick math

[lyric wharf]

||I don't know if its intended but I usually can borrow from Charon only when I don't have much boons yet.||

[brisk trail]

Yo please help me out, HOW do I get the Court Musician's Sentence unlock on the renovations table?

I already have reached Asphodel (even beaten hades)

[buoyant sequoia]

damn

[brisk trail]

already got Tartarus fountain chamber

and already bought the Fated list of minor prophecies (or do I have to complete it all?)

[lyric wharf]

Just play the game you'll eventually unlock it.

[brisk trail]

yet it doesn't show on the renovations table...

[lyric wharf]

I forgot how but I think you get to unlock it early in the game.

[hushed schooner]

do you mean freeing orpheus?

[hushed schooner]

was it || em3? ||

[grave cloud]

Why is the secondary entrance to the Lounge in such a terrible spot? It feels like a second thought.

[hushed schooner]

its meant to be secret

[wind oar]

I always go for Theseus before Asterius now, helps when you get the annoying little pest out first.

I’m talking about the fight of course

In both variations

[hollow hawk]

pog

finally got the epilogue

ill keep playing though, i love this game too much to not too

[cinder lichen]

When my friend got to Theseus for the first time I told him “Hey look it’s TommyInnit” and he instantly responded with audible disgust

[quaint leaf]

I feel like he's oddly easier in his extreme conditions mode
Mainly because he doesnt have a shield for 3/4 of the fight

[winter harbor]

Yep, but asterius becomes more difficult

[quaint leaf]

Fair, but mainly it's his new spin
Suprised me the first but was easy enough to adjust

For me at least

[brisk trail]

How does the hidden aspect of Fists work with Flying kick?

[brittle mauve]

hello :3

[brisk trail]

Rush Kick 🙂

Split between that and Concentrated Knuckle.

[opaque nexus]

I have some good news. So I will be participating in a test run for a new hades speedrunning event, Infernal Arms relay races! 6 runners each complete the game with one weapon and then switch to another runner.
I am on the spear and the other team’s spear so happens to be one of the closest things to a rival for me in the community

[wind oar]

Ah

Sounds like fun

[digital python]

really is a testament to how fun this game is cuz i didnt really want to use the fists cuz melee usually means i take more damage cuz i still can't seem to get the hang of dodging (hades is literally the second game i've played on switch & i am not very good w/ controllers) & yet i still had such a good time & even made it all the way to thesus & asterius, even tho thesus kicked my butt

[brisk trail]

Damn, I wish I had a controller.

So I can dash in more than 8 directions....

[buoyant sequoia]

i

i feel so stupid

the room next to hades opened up and i didnt know

🥲

[craggy barn]

what room

[buoyant sequoia]

the one with achilles

but i'm glad he's there i was worried i could only see him farther on in the game （；´д｀）ゞ

[fleet narwhal]

got a blue vase

is this rare?

[brisk trail]

Only a little.

[robust viper]

had a dope dlc idea

hades - age of strife

'two new gods, hera and haephaestus, arrive from olympus to grant zagreus boons! a new weapon, the labrys, lets him demolish large groups of enemies with a titanic battleaxe! last but not least, eris - goddess of strife - has infiltrated the underworld to turn the olympians against zagreus and stop his escape!'

[manic bobcat]

How do they fit in the story though

[robust viper]

new weapon 'labrys' is unlocked with cthonic keys, you need to unlock exagryph first. has three aspects 'zagreus', 'asterius', and 'tyr'. zagreus aspect gives bonus damage vs armor, asterius aspect lets you use moves from the minotaur bossfight, while the tyr aspect gives you a chain axe with adjustable range.

new npc 'eris' is a challenge room and also a romance option + cthonic companion giver similar to thanatos

new gods 'hera' and 'haephaestus' unlock when you reach hades like demeter

dlc adds a side story where eris will sometimes challenge you and turn the gods against you. she is the goddess of strife, hates hera for casting her out of olympus. she wants to use zagreus to make the gods go to war against eachother and has delusions of overthrowing olympus and making her and zagreus the new king and queen of the gods.

hades needs a yandere romance option imo

[ornate bear]

Romance all three furies xD

already have one of them

[robust viper]

lmfaoo and they fight over you

[ivory geode]

i only NOW noticed all the keepsakes have different sound effects for selecting them

on that topic does anyone know what the distant memory is supposed to be? to me it just looks like a sippy cup

[upper heron]

Is there ever a case where I SHOULDN'T take the chaos portal?

Because there's an artemis boon in my current run that I really need and I don't want to lose it by attempting a chaos boon.

[trim wagon]

completed my 6th run

[crimson olive]

How do you get titan's blood after getting some from all weapons?

[trim wagon]

@upper heron if there's a daedelus hammer always get that

and I mean ALWAYS

[upper heron]

There isn't

It's chaos boon, artemis boon, chiron shop

[flat vapor]

going chaos means you forfeit whatever rewards are being offered in the next chamber

[upper heron]

those are my options

[trim wagon]

Well I was answering your first question tbf

[upper heron]

ah ok

[trim wagon]

also I just completed my 6th run

hell yeah

[crimson olive]

How do you get titan's blood after getting some from all weapons?

[trim wagon]

||pact of punishment|| ||Complete your first run then you get bounties to progressively make the game harder, but you get to refresh level completion rewards||

[upper heron]

Ok, is there a document showing priority of boon choices?

I know hammer is first

[crimson olive]

oh okay

[manic bobcat]

Like when to pick what?

[trim wagon]

||also you can romance at least three characters which is niiiice||

[upper heron]

correct

[manic bobcat]

It really depends on your runs. Even Hammer is not always priority for some weapons.

[trim wagon]

I always build for like three boons tbh and I always start with Artemis

I mean, Athena

Divine dash is sooo Good

[manic bobcat]

I mean for fists or rail I want Lightning Strike start tbh

Or Doom

[trim wagon]

ohh that's a good one

I like Aphrodite's Call, also Zues's

[manic bobcat]

Or janky Deadly Strike with Spreadfire or that 3hit knuckle

So boon choices are too variable to make a definitive guide

There is a build guide pinned in #h1-for-new-players but that's not boon choice guide though

[upper heron]

Are chaos boons worth skipping if there is a god's boon you really want in the next chamber?

[manic bobcat]

Yeah

I think so

[trim wagon]

there's always the chance to ||complete prophecies for rewards so pick up what you don't have and try it out||

[upper heron]

Like I really want Deadly Flourish to pair with Heartbreak Strike for Chiron

[upper heron]

completed ||all of the fated list||

[manic bobcat]

If your weapon allows for that synergy, I say go for it

[trim wagon]

you can also ||gift nectar to get keepsakes, that gives a chance to give you boons from specific gods||

how many clears you on @upper heron ?

[upper heron]

Like a gazillion

[trim wagon]

oh wow, I'm only on 6 lol

but I've been only playing for about a week

oh wow only 37 hours total not bad

buuut so far I'm really enjoying the game it's fantastic

[rich acorn]

Is there a way to control how to find Hermes boons since his keepsake doesn’t do that?

[manic bobcat]

You are guaranteed to find 2 (and up to 3) per run.

So no need to force him because he's there for certain, you just can't control when you see him.

The earliest you can see him is in Tartarus boss shop I think.

[upper heron]

Is ||Pom blossom|| any good for Asphodel onward?

[rich acorn]

Ah ok

[mint forum]

is it bad

that I use dash in direction

rather then dash to mouse

[twin moat]

I've always used dash in direction

I've been considering changing it

but, I'm already too used to it

[brisk trail]

I need help beating ||any 32 heat run, even with God Mode - I just want the stupid Skelly trinket. What's the best weapon and pact of punishment distribution for 32heat?||

[manic bobcat]

Did you check the pinned message in #h1-high-heat-strategies ?

[brisk trail]

Nope, that helps.

[tranquil lichen]

so is there a workaround for faster gemstones -> keys transfer ?

[remote swift]

why have i not unlocked ||guan yu yet?|| I swear ive done everything required, am i missing something?

[ivory geode]

it's kind of a luck thing

[remote swift]

damn, ive beaten ||hades|| like 15 times tho

[trim wagon]

i thought you had to invest titan blood in the spear?

that's what I did.

@remote swift

[remote swift]

i thought it was just invest into non zag aspects

[hushed schooner]

how many have you go t

[remote swift]

hera, nemesis, chaos, nemesis is fully leveled

[hushed schooner]

uh

you need to unlock

2 more

i believe

also if oyu mean the boss you need to spoiler that name

as in unlock 2 non zag aspects

[haughty cape]

I got the end credits!

[plucky brook]

[haughty cape]

Here's how I think you can get the hidden spear aspect ASAP:
||Don't gift Achilles more than 1 nectar.
Talk to Achilles at every opportunity.
Always avoid the special NPC room in Elysium if you can.
After beating the final boss seven times, start losing on purpose.
This keeps the dialogue pool with Achilles as small as possible.||

[remote swift]

||i watched a video that specifically stated to give more than one nectar||

[plucky brook]

Chloe has already mentioned why Srg doesn't have it yet

that's 4 aspects unlocked, you need 5

[haughty cape]

||Video is wrong; I have only given Achilles 1 nectar and I have it.||

The hidden spear aspect is the only one that does not require you to invest titan blood in the weapon

[mint forum]

But you need at least 5 in others

Non zag aspects

[plucky brook]

which we keep saying

[waxen juniper]

The lovely theme is quite pretty

[wispy flax]

Oh man, the ||urns in the Hades fight are the worst way to die||

[waxen juniper]

This is surprisingly a pretty balanced weapon clear rate. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/746527302166249583/800494214613958666/balanced_variety.jpg

[plucky brook]

can't relate, I have balance and then achilles is like 2

[waxen juniper]

So you're not a spear fan?

[meager steppe]

How do I see my data from completed escapes? I’ve only done it once

Is there a way?

[wispy flax]

Unlock the ||Administration Room|| via Contractor

[tranquil lichen]

^

[waxen juniper]

It is unlikely you have the ability to yet

[tranquil lichen]

tho it's long way to get to there

if you've done only one so far

[meager steppe]

I don’t know I might just not be good. Still I’ll work on contractor stuff.

[tranquil lichen]

try to get all the useful ones first

it helps a long way

[worldly canyon]

How do I get good with the spear

[flint sorrel]

Hey, is there any way to unequip a Keepsake without equipping another one?

[tranquil lichen]

vanilla ?

[worldly canyon]

Yes

[tranquil lichen]

dash and attack

[worldly canyon]

But I may invest in the Hades spear or something if you think that's better

[wispy flax]

Chain your dash strikes, special, and attack. Use your cast often.

Achilles spear is pog

[tranquil lichen]

achiless takes some practice

but it's quite good

especially if you get some sort of aoe acst

[worldly canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/frail-achilles-troy-strong-body-builder-gif-16036070

[tranquil lichen]

like zeus or posydon

[wispy flax]

I rebound my special key to my RMB so I could hold RMB down or double tap to use the Achilles dash

[worldly canyon]

I might get a special aspect for the spear

[tranquil lichen]

spear special

[wispy flax]

Spear AoE is kinda doodoo

[worldly canyon]

I'm trying to get a clear with all the weapons now that I can consistently beat the final boss with the shield and hera's bow

[tranquil lichen]

for me spear was a big problem when i tried to paly it like a sword

when i resorted to casting builds with it

and achiless

it went quite good

[meager steppe]

How do I know which contractor items are good though?

[tranquil lichen]

first page

they are all listed as upgrades

on other pages they are decorations

or something like that

[worldly canyon]

What? The most important contracts are the || bed and heracles weights ||

Duh

[meager steppe]

Spoilers!

[worldly canyon]

Sorry for spoiling such essentials

[wispy flax]

[worldly canyon]

[meager steppe]

Naw. I was contemplating the 5 diamond one. But the one I want is apparently way above it.

Shoulda waited on Robert plant. Not sure that was worth the early diamonds.

[flint sorrel]

Sorry if I'm interrupting, but I want to introduce the game to someone, but they're iffy on metaprogression systems. Is there a way they could do things like unequipping Keepsakes and ignoring mirror upgrades?

[meager steppe]

New save file?

[flint sorrel]

No, no, as in, they want to be reassured that they can play through the entire game without ever being forced to engage with the metaprogression system. Basically, they want to have the option to play the game as a Roguelike rather than a Roguelite. Is that possible?

[fleet narwhal]

there isnt an option for that afaik

[flint sorrel]

Oof. That kinda sucks.

[fleet narwhal]

metaprogression is kind of a core thing in hades

[flint sorrel]

Fair.

[worldly canyon]

In the name of Hades, I will make this game Dead Cells

[fleet narwhal]

in the name of hades, ||i.. am hades?||

^spoilers for dead cells

[meager steppe]

I mean. Theoretically, they can run a fresh save every time and eventually they should be able to get a finishing run. Sure that sounds like torture, but is kinda on brand.

[worldly canyon]

|| Maybe the plague in Dead Cells was because Apollo was in a crabbit mood ||

[fleet narwhal]

aldkalsjdjslskd

[meager steppe]

Maybe I’m crazy but this server loves the spoiler tags.

[worldly canyon]

In fairness I'm spoilering a completely different game

[meager steppe]

Yeah. I haven’t played it but the concept is interesting. Also isn’t there also some meta progression in the one as well?

[fleet narwhal]

theres nothing worse than getting inadvertently spoiled by someone

cough cough

[meager steppe]

I don’t know. Having to constantly put ||spoiler tags|| in is at least a close second.

[fleet narwhal]

the meta in dead cells is pretty limited

[worldly canyon]

Dead Cells is fun but I didn't play much past the 1st "heat" upgrade to use Hades terms

[meager steppe]

I’ve not played. Only got a switch a month ago.

[worldly canyon]

You could do a whole lot worse than DC

[waxen juniper]

Same

[meager steppe]

And the price is alright.

I’m leaning more hollow knight.

Fenix is also on sale right now though.

[worldly canyon]

Hollow Knight is amazing and Silksong is one of my most hyped games

[meager steppe]

I’ve heard it’s good

Had SotN on PlayStation when that was the current gen console.

Beaten almost all the metroid games.

I’m just waiting for it to go on sale.

[worldly canyon]

Yeah it takes a lot of cues from Metroid and Castlevania obviously but it's great on its own merits I feel

[meager steppe]

Then again. $15 isn’t gonna hurt too bad.

[worldly canyon]

Now I want to see what a Greek mythology metroidvania would look like

[meager steppe]

Good to know! I told my son we’d finish some games before we get more.

I’ve heard fenix is awesome. And maybe takes some cues from the genre.

Tried it?

[worldly canyon]

The only fenix I know is Phoenix Wright

Which is also great but not even remotely similar as a visual novel type thing

[meager steppe]

immortals fenyx rising

That one.

[worldly canyon]

I've heard of it but never played

[meager steppe]

Again. Haven’t seen much, just that it’s basically BotW but with Greek/Roman mythology