|| arthurs gonna be the first ||
#h1-discussion
hushed schooner
brazen lagoon
Takes way too long
long latch
@hushed schooner ||you need to unlock guan yu before you can unlock any other hidden||
hushed schooner
tore through stuff
|| do you mean with titan blood or revealing??||
||because i have 5/6 hiddens revealed on the menu||
long latch
||I don't think you need to invest titan blood in guan yu if you unlocked it||
hushed schooner
|| ok so i dont need to unlock it cause i already have it revealed and have 5/6 hidden aspects||
long latch
||yeah then I was right about not needing to invest titan blood in it ||
brazen lagoon
||haven't used rama much but maybe I'll give it a shot||
stark onyx
best weapon aspect-wise they're all great
hushed schooner
|| is arthur good level 1? ||
tardy loom
i cannot be the only one who has a fit of rage whenever i go into the next room and while the animations playing, i see a gold pot to break
@hushed schooner absolutely
hexed shore
@hushed schooner ye
tardy loom
||arthur|| is what helped me beat ||EM4|| earlier today
hushed schooner
cool
tardy loom
health boosts all around saved me in the fight
hexed shore
Does hidden sword interact with centaur hearts the way hidden spear does?
hushed schooner
probbaly should but im not at || 6 heat yet||
stark onyx
|| is arthur good level 1? ||
||yes, all you really need is the big attack chunks really||
tardy loom
||EM3|| is only difficult because of ||asterius' desire to clap everything in sight||
hexed shore
I play at 6 heat only though all my weapons are 3-5 heat
hushed schooner
|| ive heard bad things about a beyblade from em3||
autumn lagoon
I had a surprise for Hades fans but I can’t send across a video or clip or anything can I?
hexed shore
Just ramp it up for no reason whatsoever!
hexed shore
Beyblade is annoying but his friend is a joke
tardy loom
LOL
hexed shore
Like the fight gets harder but also easier
hushed schooner
i have also heard some people say the
fight is easier than
without the added dificulty
tardy loom
beyblade is more difficult than regular hades
i say that with pride and also shame
gave me so much trouble
hexed shore
Yea I don't like beyblade on certain weapons
tardy loom
you just need to be good at knowing when to dodge
hexed shore
Ranged weapons they're both jokes though
tardy loom
lol
hushed schooner
gl
i might do a || 5 heat adamant rail ||run next to try the level 3 eris i just upgraded
tardy loom
i made the mistake of giving all the enemies ||top attack speed|| and i am suffering
hexed shore
Eris likes you too random citizen
hushed schooner
|| would a good first 6 heat run be em3? to try em3||
tardy loom
no
hexed shore
I'd say yes actually
tardy loom
do ||7 min timer|| and do the one that adds ||invuln hearts||
if you're just going for heat runs, do that
if you want a challenging heat one, you could do that sure
hushed schooner
well i want the achievement
hexed shore
Em3 rally doesn't change anything, except one fight which is acceptable
hushed schooner
well
tardy loom
just prepare for the disaster that is
hushed schooner
i have noticed more difficulty on other bosses during it for me
tardy loom
||a raging bull clocking in at 400mph, attacking faster than bullets spray out of the rail||
tardy loom
primary objective is to get him downed as fast as possible because ||the rage mode is just TERRIBLE||
hexed shore
Huh I personally find Em1 and vanilla the same
hushed schooner
although sometimes recently i just
tardy loom
||thankfully his rage doesn't start until 1/3rd left||
tardy loom
LOL
hexed shore
Lernie takes 40hp instead of zero cause lava
tardy loom
if he gets too close he just bites the dust sometimes
hushed schooner
like i used || demeter's|| greater call
last one
killed theseus before asterius
hexed shore
In Em3 you want to kill theseus first imo
hexed shore
Yes
winged holly
arguable with coronacht
hushed schooner
satsify both of you
tardy loom
that is near impossible
hexed shore
Sure if you can do that
But beyblade is slow and theseus runs around so you can isolate him pretty often
hushed schooner
i've done it before
tardy loom
||because of the amount of hemorrhaged health asterius has in em3||
so here's the thing about ||EM3 theseus||
hushed schooner
i killed them both at the same time with a || demeter ||| greater call hbefore
like it was literally the same time
tardy loom
||he circles the entire battlefield, he doesn't try to follow you around||
hushed schooner
i couldnt see a difference or who died first
tardy loom
||he drops bombs while going in a circle across the entire arena||
winged holly
||em3 theseus is a joke with chiron aspect||
tardy loom
||it is VERY difficult to land a hit on both at the same time||
tardy loom
||em3 theseus is a joke with chiron aspect||
RIGHT
tardy loom
gl
hexed shore
||Fo2 Em3 theseus though, dudes playing nfs in hades||
weary yacht
what is the best single target ||companion ||
brazen lagoon
||meg||
weary yacht
how many shots does ||fibi ||shot?
swift violet
I think mort is the best
Meg is good for speedrunning and stuff
Since it attacks so fast
lime hearth
I just completely ruined a run where i made it all the way to ||Hades|| for the first time on Hell Mode.
Ran with the Stygian Blade, good boons all around, and most importantly i got the Daedalus Upgrade where each attack restores HP and the one where you attack faster.
So after beating Asterius and Theseus, also for the first time, i found this new Item in Charons shop, some Anvil that takes one random Daedalus Upgrade and adds two more.
Guess which one he took.
Just take a wild guess.
hexed shore
Cursed slash
tender oxide
Oof
lime hearth
I WAS SO CLOSE
tardy loom
definitely the best upgrade in the game
lime hearth
DAMN THAT BOATMAN
swift violet
ooooooooooof
tender oxide
That’s why I never use the anvil
hexed shore
Did you lose though
lime hearth
Yes
hexed shore
I like losing slash at the end of the game
lime hearth
||I got like halfway through the second phase|| because i still had good boons and all my death defiances
hexed shore
Also do you come from mythgard by any chance?
lime hearth
What's that?
tender oxide
Fyi ||Hades and the fact that he has a second phase|| is a spoiler in this chat
lime hearth
Oh
tender oxide
||You can edit it and mark it as a spoiler like this in case you don’t know how to||
swift violet
U can do that by putting ||
lime hearth
Better?
swift violet
yeah
tender oxide
I’m sure you’ll make it back there, you’ve done it once you can do it again
tardy loom
man
i did not realize how much the mirror really helped progression until like
30th run
swift violet
Yeah
Especially the dd's
Also if you've not beaten ||Hades|| yet, put on skelly's keepsake since it will give you one more ||dd||
tender oxide
And greater reflex
swift violet
That too
tender oxide
I’d recommend the acorn instead
swift violet
Once you get to ||Styx||
tender oxide
At max level it negates 5 instances of damage
swift violet
Only put it on once you get to ||styx||
tender oxide
And the final boss hits hard so overall you get more hp
hexed shore
Acorn >tooth
tender oxide
Tooth isn’t bad by any means, acorn is just better
swift violet
help since I had 2 more dd's left
supple lodge
Cerberus collar extra hp is good too
haughty cape
Tooth is good if you get to Temple of Styx and are out of DD and aren't even sure if you'll make it to the final boss
tender oxide
Yes
tardy loom
tooth is so helpful for runs i'm unsure of
supple lodge
but if you're fighting the final boss, they can do like ||40 a hit||
so I'd say acorn safer bet
swift violet
Thats what I thought at first but if youre going for a specific build it's good to put on the god's keepsakes until you get to the final region
Tru
haughty cape
Is the skull earring any good?
tender oxide
but if you're fighting the final boss, they can do like ||40 a hit||
so I'd say ...
And they do double damage if you have ||boiling blood|| from their ||cast||
haughty cape
Personally I like to start with the coin purse because I don't really need keepsakes in the first region, and the coins multiply if you have the right mirror boon
supple lodge
what is ||hades' max damage per hit||
haughty cape
Or start with the cosmic egg
supple lodge
coin purse gang here too, hahaha
swift violet
I always put on the god's keepsake at the first region
swift violet
I put on coin purse in mabye Elysium
craggy barn
what is ||hades' max damage per hit||
talking out of my bum but with boiling blood he can do about 80 damage
tender oxide
Personally I like to start with the coin purse because I don't really need keeps...
I used to do that but now I use Zeus’s keepsake so I can get Zeus’s attack boon for fists right away
swift violet
Same
swift violet
For the rail I always put on zeus keepsake
haughty cape
I tend to use the hourglass for Elysium, because it's actually hard and the Well of Charon stuff really help
craggy barn
you could try increasing his damage by putting maim on him
swift violet
And for something like chiron bow I put on artemis keepska
supple lodge
i like using aphrodite keepsake when im running fist
swift violet
Zeus is good for fist and rail
haughty cape
Rail? Demeter or Zeus keepsake every time
craggy barn
maim + boiling blood + spin attack = zero death defiances
haughty cape
Freezing strike and the boon that makes ten stacks of freeze explode.
swift violet
I actually didn't have that much trouble against ||Hades|| on my first run
Just run really far away whenever you see him doing the spin
swift violet
Only problem for me was the shockwaves
craggy barn
i might consider making up a meme build built specifically to make ||hades|| deal as much damage as possible
swift violet
Those were so annoying
craggy barn
starting with ||gilgamesh|| because maim
swift violet
Bruh spoiler that
craggy barn
i thought we were in builds 
swift violet
nope
lost remnant
brisk trail
you get 2 titan blood per run asfaik, one from the first boss and one from the final one
craggy barn
you can also get a third titan blood from charon which is very much worth it
brisk trail
oh yea, charon's final shop also sells ||a diamond for 1000 obols or a titan blood for 1200, but it's somewhat difficult to obtain if you don't hoard some obols beforehand||
hushed schooner
get side hustle
craggy barn
can hermes' boons be heroic or is epic the highest rarity?
brisk trail
they can be heroic alright
ornate bear
I've never seen a heroic one offered but apparently ||rare crop|| can affect them
brazen lagoon
Heroic boons are never offered unless to replace an epic boon that you already have
You can only get em like that or through rare crop/eurydice
abstract lark
I started playing Hades recently. This game is actually awesome.
My favorite weapons so far the bow and the shield.
novel wasp
ive reached into another game called undertale
ornate bear
That would be a hilarious crossover
brazen lagoon
Bought hades when it was on sale cause I saw a streamer play it and haven't looked back since
brisk trail
https://gyazo.com/4e444c970f0f9a1e4e3ef0fdd7903f52 + erebus gate, what should i buy with 9 diamonds
brazen lagoon
250 hours played, best investment ever
novel wasp
save it lmao
brazen lagoon
Darkness, darker thirst and nectar
brisk trail
what does erebus do
brazen lagoon
||erebus Gates are like mini arenas where you have to fight enemies without getting hit||
||the reward is like a mini boss drop||
craggy barn
those come much later
brazen lagoon
Yeah it's much much later into the game
craggy barn
||hades|| is a spoiler
supple lodge
final boss identity is a spoiler
cunning sequoia
we beat him then he fulls his health again
supple lodge
||daddy has 2 phases||
brazen lagoon
Ye
abstract lark
@hushed schooner I've managed to go as far as asphodel
supple lodge
yeah server etiquette say the identity of the final boss should be spoiler tagged (except in spoiler friendly channels)
abstract lark
I got 2 keepsakes so far.
craggy barn
I got 2 keepsakes so far.
you should get hypnos and skelly's keepsakes, cerberus is also good
cunning sequoia
ı have to get 2 more for all of them
brazen lagoon
This channel isn't spoiler free so please mark it as spoiler
cunning sequoia
ı didnt now it was spoiler
cunning sequoia
sorry
abstract lark
@abstract lark I just got cerberus' keepsake
cunning sequoia
ı use that all the time
cunning sequoia
and the nyxs one
abstract lark
I also turned on god mode
cunning sequoia
ı didnt
craggy barn
you should prioritize upgrading death defiance
abstract lark
you should prioritize upgrading death defiance
Already a step ahead.
I'm farming darkness so i can cheat death again.
abstract lark
I do like the game's systems so far.
craggy barn
if you're finding the normal encounters pretty hard already you can go for stubborn but if it's really the bosses you're struggling with dd is the way to go
cunning sequoia
does anyone use stubborn defiance
abstract lark
Definitely looking for more keys.
cunning sequoia
which weapon is your favourite ted
haughty cape
does anyone use stubborn defiance
I used it a tonne before I got good at Elysium
novel wasp
ı played for 10 hours
they only come if you have that unlocked
hushed schooner
@brisk trail i would say gems from bosses and darkness pitch black are worth it
haughty cape
Otherwise I was just running out of DD before the boss of that area
craggy barn
stubborn defiance is good for [late-game post-clear thing]
hushed schooner
gems from bosses is incredibly useful for getting renovations
cunning sequoia
yeah
hushed schooner
and if you combine it with the darker thirst upgrade
cunning sequoia
what is thati
hushed schooner
you can get over alot of gems per run for free
haughty cape
Plus, Stubborn Defiance is cheaper, 600 darkness to max out rather than... I want to say 1550 but I'm not sure if that's right
craggy barn
darker thirst is really good especially later on when the renovations get really expensive
cunning sequoia
what is darker thirst
craggy barn
gotta make sure the house of hades looks pretty
cunning sequoia
and where do you get it
hushed schooner
gives you +20 percent gems along with darkness
haughty cape
Darker thirst means that the +darkness weapon also gives +gems
hushed schooner
gems are also useful for getting
haughty cape
It's from the House Contractor
hushed schooner
stuff at the broker
cunning sequoia
ok ı will looki
hushed schooner
i find you can go 50 gems -> 5 keys -> 1 nectar
helps alot with leveling up relationships
craggy barn
that's also gonna be great very much later on
cunning sequoia
ı have full hearths on cerberus ant thanatos
craggy barn
if you can i'd recommend just stockpiling nectar and giving it to everyone you see because it's gonna give you a good headstart on something later on
hushed schooner
yeah
cunning sequoia
ok
haughty cape
Although, you should take the 15 keys -> 1 Titan Blood trade every single time the broker offers it
hushed schooner
i'm on like 2 hearts with everyone at least now and have forged like 8 bonds
i need that trade to appear more
i need so much titan blood
hushed schooner
buy 3 with 30 gems
craggy barn
15 keys -> titan blood is also a really good deal
cunning sequoia
what
craggy barn
you can buy keys from the broker for any spare gemstones you might have
the big dude in the lounge?
hushed schooner
yes
craggy barn
yeah that's like his whole purpose
hushed schooner
it does feel really nice
to decorate the house of hades
i wasn't so sure about it in the beginning but its really addicting
making everything look nice
adding all those wall posters ot yourooom
ornate bear
Aphrodite wall poster <3
craggy barn
very important to prioritize getting the "deathly" decorations at the balcony
hushed schooner
idk how good i need to be to get the 2 ambrosia
craggy barn
we simp for thanatos in this house of hades
severe smelt
spice rack
hushed schooner
might buy a painting of skelly next for the lounge
then the weights for zagreus's room
just to finish it offf
craggy barn
you can add paintings to the lounge?
craggy barn
either i haven't unlocked it or something or i'm blind
hushed schooner
wait theres more deathlike decorations you get from giving thanatos ambrosia
i'm gonna save up for these
i thought the chairs and rug were the extent
hollow hawk
should i get the ||regain access to administrative lounge upgrade||
hushed schooner
yes
hollow hawk
what benefits does it provide
lyric wharf
i wasn't so sure about it in the beginning but its really addicting
Yeah, its worth it since we always get through all over the place in between runs so its a nice feature to have.
drifting crest
Absolutely. You need it to help some characters
hushed schooner
@craggy barn you need to have purchased the fireplace in the lounge
hollow hawk
got it
hushed schooner
to unlock the painting
and some other requirmeents but the fireplace is like 700 gems so its probably the largest barrier
hushed schooner
Yeah, its worth it since we always get through all over the place in between run...
yeah and the boss gems upgrade massively helps with it (getting the gems for all of it)
lyric wharf
yeah and the boss gems upgrade massively helps with it (getting the gems for all...
Yeah, I was hesitating about taking it at first but I was like the sooner the better as gems will have no use at some point so better take advantage of it as soon as possible.
lyric wharf
The gems bonus are actually really nice, I didn't expect to get that much, like after ||Hades|| we get 50.
lyric wharf
Yeah.
hushed schooner
from doing nothing else but beating them
hexed shore
i wish itd tell what upgrades i will replace
hushed schooner
combine that with the poseidon boon that increases gain of
darkness + gems
you're gonna be getting so many resources per run
yeah i do wish it did
i guess the main thing is
they kinda share the same prefix like
paintings all have "painting"
so you can probabbly tlel if theyre going to rpleace each other
tacit ember
potato
lyric wharf
Upgraded chests also gives a lot.
tacit ember
potato
lyric wharf
i wish itd tell what upgrades i will replace
With ?
Is there a pre requisite to get Hunter's Mark ?
dim nest
yes
Artemis' Aid, Deadly Flourish, Deadly Strike, Pressure Points, or True Shot
it's a tier 2 boon
dim nest
I listed it already 🧍♂️
hushed schooner
i know
lyric wharf
Artemis' Aid, Deadly Flourish, Deadly Strike, Pressure Points, or True Shot
Any of those or all of them ?
dim nest
any 1
lyric wharf
Thank you.
dim nest
you got it
also for future reference all boons and their prerequisites are listed on your codex
tacit ember
hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
lyric wharf
Hi.
hushed schooner
yeah
just check
mid run
its really useful
or before the run
its reallyeasy to navigate
lyric wharf
also for future reference all boons and their prerequisites are listed on your c...
Oh nice, I thought only duo boons showed the pre requisite.
dim nest
Oh nice, I thought only duo boons showed the pre requisite.
nah you can see everything (except for the hammer upgrades)
severe smelt
I did not realise this game has been in early access for like 2 years. 🤣
lilac field
If this should go elsewhere, please let me know. But I am such garbage with the bow. Any tips? I cannot get the timing of regular attack down 😓
tacit ember
hey whats that game called that i saw some play that one time
tacit ember
If this should go elsewhere, please let me know. But I am such garbage with the ...
u dont need to do the power shot every time
hushed schooner
use the dash strike
tacit ember
yes
and if u dont have chiron aspect
u can stand close to enimes
and basicaly shot gun them
supple lodge
crush shot is good too
hushed schooner
yeah
hushed schooner
i might upgrade hera after ive unlocked a hidden aspect
lilac field
Oooh. I see now with dash strike. I don’t ever use power shot, but I was getting really frustrated that I was just spamming special with it. And I am using Hera so will keep those suggestions in mind! Thank you!!!
dim nest
I think it spawns the blades where the arrow ends up
dim nest
I'm not sure though I might be misremembering lol
I haven't used Hera in a very long time
hushed schooner
yeah mines only level 1
havent used it
i might level up chiron to 4 before it
depends how quickly i can get blood from those prophecies (the mirror and || pact of punishment one ||)
thatll be like
22 titan blood?
or smth
fierce phoenix
Athena cast is pretty nice to yeet to enemies through hera or 4th shield aspect
supple lodge
i wanna try flood cast with hera bow
fierce phoenix
I also had mirage shot so I literally dashed somewhere and nuked 8 times
fierce phoenix
My problem right now is I want to start doing extreme but I have to get all the dialogue from fates first 😩
hushed schooner
wdym
you can just turn it on if youve beat the game
do you mean like
|| getting tisiphone to say zagreus? ||
fierce phoenix
Oh you miss dialogue since they don't say anything in extreme
dim nest
you can still get dialogue with EM turned on
hushed schooner
just do darkness farming runs without em id say
fierce phoenix
I know but of those 2 characters specifically?
dim nest
I got pretty much all of ||Tisiphone's|| dialogue with EM turned on
they still sometimes talk to you ignoring the EM condition
so it's just normal dialogue between the two characters
fierce phoenix
Ah k so I can start playing for real
craggy barn
|| getting tisiphone to say zagreus? ||
||mmmuurrderrzerr||
dim nest
Theseus and Asterius' dialogue will change for the first couple of times if you crank it up to EM3 but after that even they go back to their normal dialogue
craggy barn
wait does ||forced overtime|| affect bosses?
fierce phoenix
Just do all the heat that affects bosses/mini/armored and I should have a challenging time
hexed shore
Ye it does spammy
severe smelt
Wait, it does? What does it do?
craggy barn
hexed shore
Makes them faster, attacks projectiles and all
craggy barn
yeah i'll just never do that
hexed shore
20% first level 40% fo2
severe smelt
I randomly add/remove FO to tweak heat numbers and I've never noticed... 🤣 🤣
hexed shore
Also BP makes the game much more exciting @fierce phoenix
fierce phoenix
You see the chariots with speed up? 
severe smelt
Since I perceived FO as a freebie... welp.
craggy barn
so basically hermes is just aiding your enemies for some unspoken reason now
hushed schooner
its not a freebie
craggy barn
nice
hexed shore
Yes chariots are pretty fast
hushed schooner
i did a run with it
severe smelt
I assume chariots are EM3
hushed schooner
and hermes commented it was on
hexed shore
Fo is easily the hardest one condition you can turn on
fierce phoenix
Yup
severe smelt
F
hushed schooner
compared to ||hard labour||?
fierce phoenix
I like to take my sweet ass time and FO is never turning on
hushed schooner
i havent done a run with that one yet but ive done fo
hexed shore
Hard labour is what?
hexed shore
Attack damage
severe smelt
I've been trying to go fast (relatively, I'm not fast), so I just grabbed it.
hexed shore
That's okay tbh compared to fo
fierce phoenix
That's easy, just don't get hit 
hushed schooner
i guess it depends on the rank
hexed shore
Fo ruins your entire trained reflex to all attacks and you have to relearn everything
hushed schooner
would || level 5 hard labour or level 2 fo be harder if you only had one of them on for the run ||
severe smelt
See, if you never had much trained reflex built up to begin with it's fine.
hexed shore
Faster projectiles also mean faster splashes from final boss' skulls
And faster skulls themselves, and lesser charge up time on the swing
fierce phoenix
FO is harder the more heat things you have active
hexed shore
And faster bull chasing you
hushed schooner
yeah that makes sense
severe smelt
Yeah, that makes sense. In my case it's often the only thing on sometimes since I've just started grinding the blood.
hexed shore
I dare not try beyblade in fo2
hushed schooner
|| suppose theres a reason each level of fo is worth 3 heat ||
hexed shore
And hidden sword was such a huge fail cause I can't get one attack out outside my aura lmfao
fierce phoenix
||Test||
Nice I can spoilers now
||Erebus gates with chariots are the worst||
Scratch that, all rooms with chariots are the worst
hushed schooner
oh
that sounds bad
||i've only done an erebus gate with a single skull and some doomstones||
fierce phoenix
||it was a gate right at the start and I was like whatever I can take it, proceed to get 10 chariots 
||
I reset that run instantly
hexed shore
doomstones and witches are the worst to me
fierce phoenix
I play chiron so I was like whatever but the room was the buildings in the middle so I couldn't shoot anything
hushed schooner
nasty
fierce phoenix
Yeah some of the maps in it are real bad for certain weapons or enemy types
swift violet
How do you unlock ||Erebus Gates||
swift violet
ok
severe smelt
Should I seek to unlock those? Not sure what they're for really.
swift violet
Also I unlocked ||Orpheus||, does that do anything
fierce phoenix
Oh your still pretty early on
swift violet
Yeah I beat the game a few days ago and then got grounded
fierce phoenix
||erebus won't show up for awhile until you meet the condition which is very spoilery||
severe smelt
I have the contractor option present but I don't recall how I got it tbh.
fierce phoenix
||to unlock at contractor you need to get a lot of runs done||
Wait why did I spoiler that
craggy barn
plus you also need something to even enter the gate
severe smelt
😄
lyric wharf
Should I seek to unlock those? Not sure what they're for really.
Dont get it now unless you're at high ||heat||.
severe smelt
Roger.
lyric wharf
If you're talking about ||Erebus Gate|| that is.
plush pewter
how do I progress sisyphus story? I have had him at the ? lock for a while and I have his prophecy but not sure how to make it unlock?
lyric wharf
Currently trying out Hades aspect, I'm not really into sweep when I play with spear but we'll see how it goes.
leaden summit
The sweep is a bait, you get hit a lot when you use it unless you use it really safely
fierce phoenix
Only use it on openings and on high hp targets
lyric wharf
You can prepare sweep while enemies spawn which is nice.
There's an hammer upgrade that charges it faster I think ?
fierce phoenix
I just dislike the charge attack on spear so I don't think I'll use Hades aspect as much
severe smelt
I've never been able to figure out how to use the charge productively.
lyric wharf
Same, but I'm trying it out at least once to see how it is.
Btw are there hammer upgrades exclusive to some aspects ? I've played with spear a lot and I got an hammer upgrade I never got before.
Punishment lasts 10 seconds tho so that gives you a lot of time until you need to sweep again.
fierce phoenix
Only the hidden aspects have unique ones
lyric wharf
Also you can dodge while preparing sweep and whenever you do the sweep will still happen and in the direction you're dodging.
I see, nice to know.
severe smelt
Also you can dodge while preparing sweep and whenever you do the sweep will stil...
Oh whaaaaat.
lyric wharf
I saw that in a video so if enemies are about to attack you can dodge and still do your sweep.
severe smelt
I need to try this.
lyric wharf
Yeah, sweeping is more interesting when you know this.
So learning to dodge at the last second to get your sweep to charge at max helps a lot.
Larger sweep hammer upgrade is really huge btw.
fierce phoenix
Yeah its as large as the rail special explosion size
crude verge
I need a Cerberus secret boss fight
lyric wharf
I haven't got that upgrade with the railgun yet.
hushed schooner
i think hades spear is good
you just have to be careful when you spin
its my favourite spear probably
crisp ocean
I wish you could accrue more than one fan
hushed schooner
i need to play it and level it more
lyric wharf
Hades spear is a lot about timing and knowing when to use it.
leaden summit
I need a Cerberus secret boss fight
||the em4 fight is the closest you can get for now||
lyric wharf
||the em4 fight is the closest you can get for now||
Spoiled but now I'm curious about it.
crisp ocean
Imagine the gradual outrage of Thesisus as more and more fans start to cheer for Zagreus
hushed schooner
it helps i find
leaden summit
Spoiled but now I'm curious about it.
There's a reason I put the message behind a spoiler lol ||the em4 fight is hard, get a good, safe build and hope for the best, you'll prohably need multiple tries. Don't put any heat that affects the hades fight on(stuff like hl, cp, etc. Avoid fo especially, his speed is already increased).||
hushed schooner
having a positive ratio of clears to fails feels good tbh
i'm like
39 33
72 attempts
lyric wharf
There's a reason I put the message behind a spoiler lol ||the em4 fight is hard,...
Oh I'm not blaming you, it's my fault for clicking on it lol.
severe smelt
I have 81 attempts and like 22 clears or something. 😅 I die to last guy a lot.
zenith plover
81 attemps and 22 clears is pretty good
lyric wharf
Well I'm not really into Hades aspect.
sacred stag
patent grove
If ||Hades|| wants to increase security they should just ||increase the number of small rooms with poison everywhere||
Also, hidden bow aspect is trash
there, ranted
edgy bear
Also, hidden bow aspect is trash
v much not
zenith plover
and have than be in every other room
severe smelt
funny, they always want you to clear out the ||satyrs||
but that's a big chunk of the security
zenith plover
yeah
ornate bear
hidden bow is so good - I got a 100% boonless run with it yesterday
zenith plover
i would say the main reason people dont like the hidden bow is that ||its so different from the other bows||
waxen juniper
A. K. A all hidden aspects
zenith plover
yeah
mint forum
does zag dash have iFrames?
brisk trail
Oh Lord just finished ||em4||, that was very kino
deep bough
does zag dash have iFrames?
yes, during the "flash" animation
lyric wharf
I dont think that there is a bad aspect, each just has a different playstyle.
mint forum
yes, during the "flash" animation
ah alright, ty!
maxed out demeter fists are just mmm
cunning sequoia
Hİ
mint forum
heyo
hushed schooner
well done
mint forum
gj
mint forum
hmmm
for now I'd say aspect of ||lucifer|| and demeter fists
but I like all the weapons
hushed schooner
its a hidden one
cunning sequoia
but fists are good
mint forum
my favorite aspects for each weapon goes as follows: Achilles spear, ||arthur sword||, ||lucifer rail||, zeus sheild, Chiron bow, demeter fists, achille spear
mint forum
It packs helluva punch
cunning sequoia
ok
mint forum
but some people like chaos
cunning sequoia
ı will have to learn
mint forum
or ||beowolf||
cunning sequoia
how to get aspects
hushed schooner
i like zagreus shield tbh but need to level chaos more and zeus is only level 1 and ive never used it
with titan blood
mint forum
so u probably haven't unlocked aspects
cunning sequoia
no ı have
mint forum
?
mint forum
they aren't hidden
cunning sequoia
ok
mint forum
have fun!
cunning sequoia
thanks
mint forum
and u can just google how to unlock hidden aspects
cause rn my brain ain't working to remember
mint forum
bubye! goodluck fellow warden
manic bobcat
yeah ı was about to do that
For a more concise guide, we also have that pinned in #h1-story-discussion fyi
lyric wharf
The shield Zeus aspect is really nice, I'm only starting to use it and I like it already.
I also tried the sword aspect of Poseidon but I didn't got an interesting cast on the run.
worldly flame
so are there consequences to going platonic with meg?
mint forum
esp the artemis boon which deals damage when the cast stones dislodge
mint forum
so are there consequences to going platonic with meg?
iirc no
narrow hemlock
no consequences no matter how you choose for anyone
mint forum
yuh^
lyric wharf
if u get good cast's it's really fun
One that goes onto enemies since the sword get them out, Athena cast might be a good one for that aspect.
lyric wharf
There's a boon that damages enemies when bloodstones gets out of them.
lyric wharf
It would be perfect for that aspect.
mint forum
yupyup
is it just me or if u keep picking one persons boons in a run they keep showing up?
like
if ur going with a zeus posiden build they both pop up more often
and sometimes there are new gods?
lyric wharf
You can get up to 4 different gods max in a run unless you equip a different god keepsake between areas, Hermes is an exception to this so that's 4 different gods + Hermes.
lime iris
does your current health get reduced when you unequip cerberus' keepsake?
lime iris
so unless you're within 50hp of max hp you don't notice right?
lime iris
ok thanks
true bridge
hey.... the house contractor could maybe mess with the place with skelly and the weapons
it looks bland
the same as the start except for the weapons
and something that is a spoiler
mint forum
no I wouldn't consider it one
acoustic plank
is it just me or if u keep picking one persons boons in a run they keep showing ...
I've heard when you pick T1 boons, you're more likely to get those gods and related boons further in the run, but I haven't seen any raw data to back that up. I can tell you that the one time I tried a blade rift build with Artemis attack, I got both Ares legendary and the duo for my blade rift. It was a very successful run.
trail moon
After unlock all the weapons and the mirror of night,the keys isn't important right ? I can exchange it with no problem ?
mint forum
After unlock all the weapons and the mirror of night,the keys isn't important ri...
yup
acoustic plank
There's a cosmetic upgrade that requires a lot of keys if you like cosmetics
mint forum
for special trades
oh wait
I lied there are the ||ranks||
and some cosemetics yea iirc
trail moon
Oh yes after beating the game ?
mint forum
yea
trail moon
Ok I see thank
trail moon
👍 😋
spiral spindle
Wtf that's insane
rotund crystal
Remember: Hang in there
low solar
are there plans for an expansion?
mint forum
No plans yet iirc
low solar
ty
mint forum
They're gonna be patcjing out bugs and making sure the game can last for a long time without any problems
And then they're taking a break iirc
And then they might add more
low solar
cool
elder warren
yo someone here for a quick question? For the Erebos gates; do I need that exact count of heat or is this a minimum?
low solar
minimum
mint forum
Minimum
elder warren
thanks guys
inland bone
how does erebos gates work?
low solar
you go into them and you dont take damage, then get 2x the rewards it says so instead of 100 gold you get 200
its a challenge where you don't take damage, and if you do you get I think 1 or 2 health
inland bone
smh, a challenge i see
molten folio
Are the boons from erebus gates just a higher rarity? I haven't actually been paying attention when I get them
low solar
yes
lavish skiff
im having issues with ||god locked hearts||
or maybe they arent issues
but like
how do i ||unlock them||
molten folio
Each one has different requirements, it can take a while
lavish skiff
but like
do i just have to ||get a certain number of boons from them||?
and then ||they'll give me their task||?
molten folio
|| you've given them as much nectar/ambrosia as you can, I assume. After that I think most of them are just luck with triggering the dialogue that unlocks it ||
molten folio
|| they dont all have explicit tasks either, some of them were unlocked from prerequisite actions iirc. They kind of just unlocked on their own for me ||
low solar
F
molten folio
|| I have all but aphro unlocked rn, 108 runs in, but I wasn't giving them nectar for the first ~60. || it just kind of happened on its own lol
edgy bear
that god took extra long for me too
low solar
aphros the goddess of love so you know what you have to do uwu
lavish skiff
||well aphro hasnt unlocked for me yet and i have bonds with everyone that isnt a god||
molten folio
|| I think you need to max than and meg (possibly dusa?), and I only JUST got dusa's rejection cutscene a few mins ago ||
lavish skiff
||i think it would have to be something else tho, because she hasnt unlocked for me yet||
static stirrup
Dear SGG: thank you for your repeated assurance that ||Cerebus is fine||. I was stressing out way too much the first time I got to that part.
low solar
||make sure to be on your guard tho||
molten folio
|| yeah I just looked it up, the requirements are just doing lots of runs. You need a lot of dialogue to happen to unlock the hearts ||
Just keep playing and enjoy the ride, there's not much you can do to make it go faster ¯_(ツ)_/¯
lavish skiff
sad
patent grove
is there a list of safer ||heat conditions|| or 'best' ones?
winter harbor
Just don't take increased trap damage
molten folio
If youre just starting id recommend EM1 and 2
The rest are kind of playstyle preference
edgy bear
Tight deadline seems scary but its actually quite generous. Def at least take lvl 1
loud lintel
hey, just got my first clear earlier
quick question about ||pact of punishment, so its basically penalties on my run that'll get me rewards|| am i understanding that correctly?
soft sapphire
quick question about ||pact of punishment, so its basically penalties on my run ...
Yeah pretty much
loud lintel
do i need to complete the whole run to get the rewards?
rigid sand
patent grove
do i need to complete the whole run to get the rewards?
it's ||by boss||
loud lintel
ah so like my initial run then
patent grove
I wish there was a way to trade for Nectar
patent grove
ah so like my initial run then
Yeah, it's the same
loud lintel
got it thanks!
summer ember
@patent grove the vendor in the lounge has it for trade sometimes
vast folio
I want to take a nap with hypnos
runic agate
I wish there was a way to trade for Nectar
You can trade 10 keys for 1 nectar wtf are you talking about
patent grove
You can trade 10 keys for 1 nectar wtf are you talking about
You are correct, I forgot about that one
runic agate
unreal abyss
do passive stat effects from keepsakes (like the damage from than's butterfly) stay after you switch them?
dire wave
I'm pretty sure that's a no.
prisma wind
No, to keep the buff you have to keep the keepsake equipped
dire wave
It's pretty obvious to spot switching on and off Cerberus's keepsake
analog wren
finally got all the achievements at 100hours exactly
prisma wind
Congrats!
distant night
gg :o
manic bobcat
I should really pick up the pace in 100% the game huh
distant night
hmm whatch missin 👀
analog wren
shield duh
prisma wind
Zag fists
manic bobcat
But the achievements aren't retroactive
distant night
but i guess you were an EA player so understandable if 100%ing it after launch isnt priority
distant night
I finished them a long time a go in EA
yeeeeeee
manic bobcat
Zag fists it is then
distant night
kinda wish hades had more hidden achievements like pyre
dire wave
Also found something interesting today, using the last aspect for the spear's (||Guan Yu||) spin attack thing works with the thing that skelly gives you (||Companion Rib||), letting you heal like 90 health if you spawn him before you finish the encounter.
manic bobcat
Maybe I can finish Cold Embrace too
prisma wind
I'm a bit surprised that 32 heat didn't make it in as a cheevo
analog wren
i'd prob have another 20 hours if it was
manic bobcat
32 heat is not that hard, just take a couple of tries
distant night
like the game has so many secrets but you're never really hinted at what they could be or even wanna find them for achievos
prisma wind
If you're having a hard time with it, head to the #h1-high-heat-strategies channel, there's a pinned post to help you get started in the "easiest" way
distant night
i get it but it's sad
like the dusa secret? i think wightfyre or tatz talked about it here once
prisma wind
Which one is that?
prisma wind
Don't think that was me, could've been tatz though
distant night
i just know it was somebody who is pretty active at talking with everybody and you two have been the most active the last weeks
manic bobcat
I have never had the chance for people to advice me on how to do runs. So what should I take for zag fists: Druken Strike, Flourish or Dash
mint forum
Id say strike or dash
analog wren
i got a new pb on time and a final boss fishing spot the golden run of 100% lul
lyric wharf
I should really pick up the pace in 100% the game huh
That would mean max heat run, you're going for that ?
manic bobcat
You dont need max heat to 100% the game?
I guess it depends on what you meant by 1005
lavish skiff
why is ||em4|| so haaaaaaard
lavish skiff
on what weapon?
mint forum
Probably smt with alright attack speed
So probably not ||Arthur|| or things like that
lyric wharf
There are 2 hammer upgrades that doesnt work together for shield, I chose Charged Shot first and then Minotaur Rush and I still have the charged shot, I knew I had Charged Shot but I wanted to see what happen if I chose Minotaur Rush, is that intended or a bug ?
lyric wharf
But I still only have Charged Shot.
lavish skiff
ok so dashing flight and charged flight arent compatible
lavish skiff
but otherwise
yeah charged shot basically just makes it so you dont move forward when you bull rush
so there isnt any reason for any of the hammers not to work with it
lyric wharf
Charged Shot does nice damage if crit hit btw.
Yeah.
I was expecting maybe a shot + a rush that's why I tried it.
lavish skiff
that would be op
lyric wharf
Yeah.
I read on the wiki that Charged Shot projectile is unblockable.
Really helpful against Theseus, I just killed him before Asterius lol.
Are the ||Styx|| room set or randomized ?
lyric wharf
I just did 1850 crit with Charged Shot.
lavish skiff
or say final area
lyric wharf
I didnt know it was considered a spoiler, I thought only final boss and post game contents.
lavish skiff
well if the final boss is a spoiler then why wouldnt the area leading up to it be
most of the time you get through final area
prisma wind
Generally anything from the final boss and onward is considered spoiler territory in #h1-discussion and #h1-for-new-players, but Styx is fine, it's just a biome of the game
hushed schooner
yeah styx is fine
prisma wind
People can spoiler things without being required to, nothing wrong with that
lyric wharf
|| hades||
It does work great as well against ||Hades|| as well.
prisma wind
lyric wharf
So yeah about Styx I thought random at first but then I just fell in a room I've never been before so I thought maybe its set and I never went to that gate.
hushed schooner
no but
|| hades does mostly big damage||
and cursed slash only heals 2
per hit
lyric wharf
Oh yeah you need to get a lot of hp upgrades.
hushed schooner
so you need to put yourself at risk to heal
at least i got it for the prophecy and id da run
lyric wharf
Not if you are good at dodging enough until you get hit again, if anything you can prioritize healing on the mobs that spawns.
lyric wharf
I usually have around 150 hp or more with Cursed Slash.
hushed schooner
wasnt that lucky
crude onyx
If you have attack speed up and/or flurry slash
And are half decent at avoiding his attacks
hushed schooner
i had powrful doom slash
lyric wharf
i had powrful doom slash
What's that ?
hushed schooner
oh
uh
i had doom on main
- impending + dire misfortune
standard doom damage stuff
- curse of longing
lyric wharf
I see.
unborn anchor
That's not really the fault of cursed slash. You just paired it with upgrades that don't really combo well with it. But yeah, I tend to avoid it in general because it's pretty niche.
Whereas I can start Hidden Spear with Athena attack boon.
hushed schooner
yeah i've never used it before
lyric wharf
I'm good with Sword so I usually take Cursed Slash whenever I can.
I'm left with fists and railgun 3rd aspect to try out but I'm gonna go back and play with spear again, going for ||heat 4||.
hushed schooner
finally unlocked || arthur ||anyway
lyric wharf
I went with ||HL1 and TD2 but I should have go for EM1 instead of HL1.||
hushed schooner
gonna use it to complete some prophecies
lyric wharf
Nice.
lyric wharf
||HL1|| is better anyways since I want the game to be harder, ||EM1|| would make the game hard just on one boss and that's it.
I already tried ||EM1|| before and I had no troubles.
manic bobcat
👀
brazen lagoon
hades 2? Pog
manic bobcat
dang SGG really let us down huh for this one huh
opaque nexus
coarse plover
opaque nexus
I kind of want the hades speedrun community to run this game
wispy flax
Does Death Defiance get multiple charges or just the 1?
prisma wind
You can upgrade it to have up to 3 in the mirror
wispy flax
Damn stubborn defiance really aint it then
lyric wharf
Well then I just got 3 duo boon in the choice list.
lyric wharf
Yeah first time it happens.
noble hinge
does the song 'the unseen ones' ever play in game?
it's in the ost playlist but i don't remember ever hearing it
prisma wind
To hear it you have to ||use EM4||
leaden summit
During the|| em4 fight||
granite comet
i have no clue which channel i should put this in but im very proud of myself for getting to river styx in 8 attempts? i died there but. yknow! ive watched my partner play for weeks and i feel accomplished to be this far in
noble hinge
that's really good!
prisma wind
You can post here, yeah, or in #h1-for-new-players. Congrats! That's pretty good
lyric wharf
i have no clue which channel i should put this in but im very proud of myself fo...
That's nice, are you playing with God mode btw ?