h1-discussion

[hasty lichen]

True

Tbh i just like getting big stuff from the gates

But then i suck at the gates

[distant night]

anything for yaboi skellington

[hasty lichen]

Onion react

Hades: Onion react

[analog reef]

I mean

Skelly's ya boi

[slow quarry]

wait just making sure I have to get the 4th aspect of spear before anything else right?

[distant night]

yes

[slow quarry]

ty

also 5 titan blood in 1 aspect of spear

or in total 5 titan blood in spear?

[hasty lichen]

1

[distant night]

• Varatha: ||Aspect of Guan Yu. Acquire the Fated List, unlock at least 5 other aspects, and fight Hades at least once (outcome is irrelevant). Achilles should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.||

the whole list is pinned in #h1-story-discussion

[lime iris]

so zagreus is a god who can't teleport uh

[hasty lichen]

Where are the gods who can teleport

[distant night]

hades cant teleport either, he needs a sigil 🤔

same with ||persephone|| 🤔

[dim nest]

Than

[distant night]

i wonder if there are multiple charons or if his boat is just THAT fast

[sleek galleon]

4 attempts later, I still want to play more
and I especially want to get more upgrades from Artemis and Poseidon

especially espeically Artemis because I love the bow

(is it related?)

[distant night]

(what is related?)

[sleek galleon]

the bow to artemis' upgrades

[distant night]

nope

[sleek galleon]

she's cool regardless

[distant night]

yes ;-;

[sleek galleon]

hmm let's see, 10 attempts and 1200ish kills

[distant night]

👀

a shade murderer

[sleek galleon]

It's really fast
my space key on my thin keyboard is begging me to stop

[lime iris]

beside the hidden one, a decent aspect for the sword and some good combos?

[hollow breach]

So I finally reached the final boss, turns out I always keep on dying to him

[distant night]

nemesis with aphro-artemis

[hollow breach]

Gonna be a bit before I can break through him

[distant night]

nemesis in general is sexy

[distant night]

since he will always stay similar you can plan ahead from your very first boons to kick his butt next time :)

[hollow breach]

Heck ye

[lime iris]

poseidon is a bit too niche right?

[hollow breach]

I got a build in mind, since I was originally planning on abusing him with Coronacht, but Stygian Blade seems to be good all of a sudden after I used it's special? 😳

Yea Poseidon is pretty niche

All he's good for is knocking stuff down

[distant night]

every weapon has their sweetspots (in combat and boon build) ;)

some times coronacht may suck, other times it just melts everything

[hollow breach]

Any builds you recommend out of curiosity?

[distant night]

me? no, i am more the spear specialist here

[sleek galleon]

I would love to play with the spear, but it's kinda too close and I'd rather take the sword

[distant night]

i think lads like misty and nxc might help more :)

[hollow breach]

N X

[sleek galleon]

Hey, I've just started the game wdym

5 hours in

[hollow breach]

G IB BUILD ADVICE NAO

[distant night]

you said you liked the bow

oml

[lime iris]

spear is similar to sword but just better imo

[sleek galleon]

Hmmm, I'd say Aphro's Boons kinda works well

[distant night]

i couldnt think of other bow-likers ;-;

[lime iris]

at least vanilla

[distant night]

spear is a mean weapon once you really go ham on it

[hollow breach]

Yea, that was kinda my thing that I used to do

[last wren]

i prefer the sword just because its much quicker than the spear

[distant night]

serrated point and achilles aspect spin my lad ;)

[sleek galleon]

and poseidon's special knockback boon kinda made it easier for me

[hollow breach]

As I went with Aphrodite for the Volley, and went with Ares for the Power

Plus Athena's dash helped me out a lot during some sections, but yea I get what you mean

I just kinda love the Spray and Play potential of Coronacht sometimes lmao

[sleek galleon]

and also it's powercast is good

[distant night]

other way round would probably be better since ares on volley can clear the room by himself but thats just me :)

[sleek galleon]

(god sggames really have made powercasting a second nature to me)

[distant night]

btw dont forget if you dash as you strike your shot comes out faster <3

[hollow breach]

I mean, partially why I went for the sword instead of the bow is because of the dash-strike

[distant night]

why am i here i aint a bow pro ;-;

[hollow breach]

TOO MANY KINGDOM HEARTS VIBES AAAAAAAA-

[lime iris]

I have X and A imprinted in my thumb

[distant night]

i have a hole in my spacebar

[hollow breach]

You have a spacebar?

[sleek galleon]

you FOOLS, just get yourself a laptop-like thin keyboard

[lime iris]

spacebar on a controller, that's weird

[elder sandal]

Zagreus hot

[hollow breach]

Bruh I want a bar in Space

[sleek galleon]

Agreed

[hollow breach]

SOunds pretty epic ngl

[distant night]

i usually only press the left part of it, it's buttery smooth now

hades characters all hot

[wild portal]

yes

[sleek galleon]

Mine's tilt back and forth

and 70% it double dash

[distant night]

dash-dash-dash-dash-dash-dash-dash

[sleek galleon]

precision's overrated

[distant night]

i cant remmeber when i last just walked

maybe when first beating the game since you cant dash

[lime iris]

I feel like for aspect of eris m&k is way better ,but now I'm too used to the controller

[sleek galleon]

It's basically the Jaunt() function but on steroids

[distant night]

i have no idea what that means ;-;

[sleek galleon]

[hasty lichen]

Do u think red and Zagreus would be friends

[distant night]

i only have 4h in transistor buddy ;-;

it scared me

i think zagreus can be friends with anybody

[sleek galleon]

Red, Goddess of melodies

[hollow breach]

Heck ye

[sleek galleon]

🎵

and Kristen voicing her too

[hasty lichen]

So true

[distant night]

btw nxc, every time i see you and the "Hey Red, We're not gonna get away with this are we?" i always get such goosebumps

it was such a strong moment in those 4h holy heck

[sleek galleon]

it always does

[distant night]

i wanna retry but i'm intimidated

hence why i dont give myself the role hah

[lime iris]

is transistor good?

[sleek galleon]

I've tried to open the game couple times today, but Procrastination always wins

[hasty lichen]

I mean

[hasty lichen]

The process is scary

[distant night]

the visuals, music and story so far have been absolutely amazing

[hasty lichen]

I got it a few weeks ago and I’m obsessed

[distant night]

it's just so incredibly different and i'm already intimidated by hades cause i never used to play roguelike/lites so yeah, double new gamestyles really shoots my anxiety of the unknown into the clouds

[sleek galleon]

I don't want to "fangirl" too much over the game , but it's what'd you expect from SGG

[distant night]

i still shake like a leaf in a stormy wind cleaing a run inhades once

[lime iris]

mm it's on sale on steam, I might think about it

[distant night]

anxiety zippers

[sleek galleon]

I've deleted Meg twice at 1-4 hp

only to be "THERE IS NO ESCAPE" 'd from that skull

[hasty lichen]

Lmao

[distant night]

yeet deleet dead

[sleek galleon]

wow that rhymes

[distant night]

i am a poet in my free time yaknow ;)

[hasty lichen]

I never played roguelites either I come from a smash bros background so it was all very new to me. But the polish that sg put into these games make them definitely worthwhile

[lime iris]

great, now I gotta try them all

[distant night]

most definitively

the most interaction i had with roguelike/lites was watching my best friend lose at binding of isaac

[sleek galleon]

Seeing my friends play Hades made me ask myself "why haven't I played this before?"

They push far in their run than me

[sleek galleon]

channels below is where we can help you with each one

[lime iris]

thanks, maybe some other time, I'm about to go to bed

[distant night]

sweet dreams :)

have a nice time with hypnos :D

[sleek galleon]

^

Hypnos' really cool

[distant night]

a cutest bro

[cold gate]

guys what enables being able to|| fight charon?||

[distant night]

there is a secret item in the middle shops :)

[dim nest]

||sometimes he'll have a coin purse and you can "borrow" it||

[distant night]

you will see it if it spawns :)

or listen to warped

[cold gate]

i know that, i mean what procs|| the bags appearance||

[distant night]

pure rng

[cold gate]

so if i see it early it prolly wont appear in the run?

[distant night]

yep

[cold gate]

alright

[sleek galleon]

Question: is it me or the more I fail my run I get to the bosses' rooms faster?

[dim nest]

can you elaborate

I don't think I understand the question

[sleek galleon]

Like for example
I die to Meg

[manic bobcat]

No, you just got better lol

[sleek galleon]

[manic bobcat]

And mirror upgrades tend to give you more damage

So both

[sleek galleon]

thanks I guess

[sleek galleon]

(out of the people , I didn't expect you to reply)

[dusk snow]

WHY THE HELL DID ||HADES|| RESPAWN AFYER YOU BEAT HIM

I was fully whooping when he went to zero and then it was like haha you thoughhhht

[distant night]

sike?

[dusk snow]

It’s my first time 😭

I am

Sad

I was soooo close to beating him the second time too sigh

[distant night]

kick his butt next time, now that you know what's up :)

[slow quarry]

I maxed my spear out

I talked to achilles

[dusk snow]

there’s no third respawn is there 👀💀

[slow quarry]

and he said he gave me access to something

??

what is he talking about

[dim nest]

👀

[distant night]

👀

[dusk snow]

NO

I can’t handle this

[distant night]

find out next time on Hades

[dim nest]

did he give you a phrase?

[dusk snow]

it takes so long to do a run I feel so

Errrr I may have forgotten to pay attention

[slow quarry]

a phrase?

[dusk snow]

He just said no way you’re getting out

[distant night]

if you need to take a day off or a big breather, Hades will wait for you :)

[slow quarry]

he said something about him not having a lot of authority and I hereby give you access

[distant night]

take your time ok?

[sleek galleon]

"Freedom can wait"

[dim nest]

oh

[slow quarry]

what is it?

[dim nest]

I'm not sure actually

[dusk snow]

oh Hm maybe

[dim nest]

I don't remember that bit of dialogue

[slow quarry]

how do I get the 4th aspect of spear

I put 5 titan blood in 1 aspect

and talked to achilles

[sleek galleon]

keen eyes can notice that from the previous SGG title

[dusk snow]

ah Artemis thank you 😭 the defeat is real but also it makes me wanna just keep playing too

[dim nest]

do more runs and talk to Achilles lol

it's RNG

[slow quarry]

ok

[distant night]

do you mean me or artemis the best goddess ever :o

[hasty lichen]

Teleporting flame wheels is definitely something that should be left in 2020

[distant night]

i miss artemis now ._.

[dusk snow]

I meant you but 👀

I haven’t seen her in a while

[dim nest]

worst enemy possible

[distant night]

teleporting faster flame wheelies are just PAIN

[dusk snow]

Acid rats are up there too

Hate them

[distant night]

oh ok ;w; just saying what's true, it's a great game and well your well-being is more important than beating it

le vermins

[dim nest]

that one vermin is the worst

you know the one

[distant night]

honestly the big mini boss vermin annoys me more

the one vermin is just... it's the one

[dim nest]

yeah that one has the worst room by far

guillotines and there's acid everywhere? cmon

[distant night]

or if you have ||MM|| and get him together with satyr lad

i think the guillotines are there for you to kill him faster

he does take 600 damage per hit 👀

[dim nest]

yeah but I just end up triggering them on my head lol

[distant night]

lool

as long as you dont have ||hs|| active???

[slow quarry]

just got a dialogue with achilles that he would give me the weapons that sealed away the titans

the weapons of his father

is that what I needed to get as dialogue?

[tepid plover]

For what

[slow quarry]

4th aspect of spear

[tepid plover]

Is a waking phrase

Do you meet the requirements?

[slow quarry]

yes

[tepid plover]

The dialogue is a waking phrase

[slow quarry]

is Achilles the man who keeps everything safe?

[tepid plover]

He will tell you to go to the spear and talk some words to it

[slow quarry]

okay tyu

[tepid plover]

Hes more or less the keeper of west hall

So yes

[slow quarry]

why is Achilles sometimes not as his main place

[dim nest]

he goes to the bathroom

[slow quarry]

k man

seriously

[dim nest]

I mean there's no real reason why, characters just aren't at their usual place sometimes

Achilles will get a valid reason not to be there but you have a ways to go before that

[tepid plover]

He needs to poop

Also who do you think keeps the weapon shiny

Def not skelly

And dusa doesn't go out

[hasty lichen]

15 heat is literally unholy

[tepid plover]

Lol

[strange adder]

15 or 50

both very similar in pronounciation

[hasty lichen]

15

But I’ll try 50 for fun

See if i can even break out of tartarus

[strange adder]

lol good luck

"Just don't get hit"

[hasty lichen]

KFKGKFJSJ

“You made heat gauge cry”

Okay I’m about to cry too

I was like

Okay this isn’t so bad

And then i got hit once

I wanna go home

[molten depot]

omg I just realised how cool it is to use Fidi in a run!!

I can have Dusa with me all the time.

[hasty lichen]

Every single lout at once

Well. I’m home

[merry fulcrum]

Welcome home, boy!

[distant night]

||https://imgur.com/d9lqVbc || similar to this?

[hasty lichen]

So much of that

So much

They kept coming and they didn’t stop

What killed me was the traps

[distant night]

||hightened security|| traps?

[hasty lichen]

Yes lol

I’m so used to ignoring those

[tranquil magnet]

jeez what part of hades is that

[distant night]

tartarus

[hasty lichen]

Its a lot of fun fkfkfjksj

[tranquil magnet]

ik

but when did they have like so much hearts

I've never seen that

[distant night]

very late game

[tranquil magnet]

that farthest I've ever been was like half way through Elysium

[hasty lichen]

A spreader teleported in front of me in one room and instantly did 100 damage I didn’t have time to react

[distant night]

like 300h lategame :D :) :|

[tranquil magnet]

I don't understand?

[merry fulcrum]

it's after you complete a run

[tranquil magnet]

wdym by very late game

[tranquil magnet]

oh

[merry fulcrum]

he's joking

[tranquil magnet]

oh

[distant night]

who's joking

[tranquil magnet]

What's a run?

[merry fulcrum]

after complete a run you can add extra challenges to your escape attempts

[tranquil magnet]

like fr

[distant night]

a run is when you exit the window in the courtyard

[tranquil magnet]

oh

[distant night]

the roguelite aspect of hades

[tranquil magnet]

how do you complete it

[merry fulcrum]

every escape attempt is a "run"

by winning

there is a final boss

[tranquil magnet]

when I went to elysium I saw a door by the tree when you go to the next floor is that where you complete it?

[distant night]

there are 4 stages like tartarus and asphodel

[merry fulcrum]

you either beat them or die and those two things end a run

[tranquil magnet]

like on the pirate like map

[distant night]

elysium is the 3rd

[tranquil magnet]

what's the fourth?

[merry fulcrum]

Styx

[distant night]

the last stage 👀

[tranquil magnet]

dang

I have a friend named styx lol

hopefully 2 death defiances and a stronger weapon will be enough to get through elysium

and hopefully styx too

[hasty lichen]

Its a pretty name tbf

[distant night]

make it 3 DDs :D

[tranquil magnet]

what

[merry fulcrum]

elysium boss is the big wall for a lot of people

good luck

[tranquil magnet]

ye

[distant night]

you can upgrade the death defiances it more than once, good luck :)

[tranquil magnet]

I got one more question, who is the boss for Elysium?

[distant night]

the champions

bull and lad

[tranquil magnet]

oh ok

[hasty lichen]

A really cool ghost minotaur and a guy with a spear who shouts insults at you

[tranquil magnet]

ik that but I need so much darkness for that 😩

[hasty lichen]

Also, he stabs you with the spear

[tranquil magnet]

mk

[distant night]

you will get more than enough of it soon :)

[tranquil magnet]

ok

[distant night]

dont worry about it, just know you always have more to save you

[tranquil magnet]

I barely got my second dd today

ye

[molten depot]

[hasty lichen]

LMAO

[distant night]

oh god that reminds me of the comic

[tranquil magnet]

lol

[hasty lichen]

The fountain literally didn’t give me health

[distant night]

https://imgur.com/a/wA2fsu7 by holyhandgrenade on twitter

[sleek galleon]

exactly

[sleek galleon]

exactly

[distant night]

i would love a lipstick in athena's shade

[merry fulcrum]

dont forget the Poseidon sequel

https://twitter.com/h0lysarthole/status/1332813122734854144

H0lyhandgrenade is available for Comissions (@h0lysarthole)

Meanwhile, Poseidon. #HadesGame #HadesGameFanart #hadesstrips

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Twitter · Nov 28, 2020, 10:26 PM

[sleek galleon]

c'mon, Uncle Pose's Call is awesome

[hasty lichen]

I got pretty far vs the first boss i almost beat her

Almost

[merry fulcrum]

get back in there

this time for sure

[hasty lichen]

Equipped the shackle. Just me and malphon vs the underworld

[molten depot]

Me when I have rail and get a hammer:
"Cluster Bomb! Cluster Bomb! Cluster Bomb! Cluster Bomb!"

[distant night]

thanks steeb for finding the artist :D

[merry fulcrum]

their hades comics are gr8

[distant night]

hades fan artists are fantastic

every single one of them ;-;

[lethal island]

What does "Ambiguity bonus" do

[distant night]

the creativity and the different unique styles are just so good

[distant night]

it's a meme boon that does nothing, you got unlucky :c

[lethal island]

😔

[distant night]

usually you'll get a good boon but sometimes it's that, sry lad :c

[lethal island]

That's what I get for not believing in Bouldy

[molten depot]

https://twitter.com/h0lysarthole/status/1344394026523500547/photo/1

H0lyhandgrenade is available for Comissions (@h0lysarthole)

Downtime while Zag's out on a run. #hadesstrips #HadesGame #HadesFanArt #hypnos #Dusa #skelly

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Twitter · Nov 4, 2010, 1:42 AM

I just need more skelly in my life

[merry fulcrum]

same, boyo

[hasty lichen]

I cannot get enough of hades fanart

Yeah this isn’t happening

[sleek galleon]

https://imgur.com/a/MJTAGn0
very amazing

[sacred stag]

Shade causes of deaths and their quotes are hilarious

[faint burrow]

I was hitting like 3k crits this past run. so easy

[distant night]

imagine 7k crits

honestly trying for high crits is such a fun way to just be an idiot in your runs

boop 3k crit, you dead

[arctic zenith]

What if enemies could crit you

[hushed schooner]

so frustrating when a run goes downhill

lost like a 7 or 8 streak today to a series of bad decisions in a run

😔

[distant night]

||BP3||

[arctic zenith]

||what is bp3 again||

[distant night]

nonexistant

||bp2|| is ||benefits packx2 where armored foes get new attacks/specials||

[arctic zenith]

oh yeah

thanks

[distant night]

it only has max 2, so what if the 3rd was enemies can crit

[subtle urchin]

[molten depot]

Just turn up the heat for +100% damage. then they crit everytime all the time.

[distant night]

well crit is +200% damage so maybe with cursed ||heat|| mods?

[vast gulch]

Wait so hang on, is crit double damage or just an extra +200% base damage

[distant night]

3x damage

[molten depot]

[timid slate]

ffs

[gray jacinth]

Me recommending good riddance to people not expecting it is such a thrill I never knew I needed

[timid slate]

i dont rly get how ppl using stubborn defiance

mad lads

[distant night]

high heat

[timid slate]

i was trying 32 heat

[distant night]

because literally every encounter kills you

try 50

[timid slate]

reached till elysium

then rekt

i mean stubborn defiance = u got totaly of 120 hp

per champer

i get hit for like 40 D:

[gray jacinth]

I do heats of zero

[timid slate]

best heats

uwu

[gray jacinth]

I have the secret to be good at them ||never beat the game cus you can't dodge||

[timid slate]

im rlly mad for last run cuz i got posi duo boon which makes all stuff epic

[distant night]

i have another secret for you ||watch vorime or train for hours on skelly||

[timid slate]

ugggh

godcursed stubborn defiance

and my noob ass :(

i had x3 hermes epics

why life

[gray jacinth]

||train on skelly...can you get him to attack you so you can practice dodging? Also I will watch vorime thank you||

[distant night]

you can practice dodging whenever since there isnt a build in timer

just dont do anything for a minute and just keep dodging, you have all the time in the world :)

[timid slate]

._.

troll cat

misleadin the poor guy

[distant night]

vorime teaches alot of new stuff since he specializes in fresh file runs

[timid slate]

now he gonna play yoga with skelly

[gray jacinth]

Things go over my head sorry

[timid slate]

u go watch tails rn

[distant night]

well skelly teaches you to be confident with your new weapons and new combos

[timid slate]

and get gud

the hard way

[arctic zenith]

funny skelly

has anyone made skelly with the haha funny sans eye

[gray jacinth]

[arctic zenith]

is that a stardew pufferfish?

[gray jacinth]

Yes with a knife it in there discord emojis

[arctic zenith]

also why did i have to ask about sans skelly

nice

[timid slate]

🔪

🔪 💀

[gray jacinth]

don't ever bring up San skelly again

[arctic zenith]

sans skelly

[fleet narwhal]

hey kid you wanna have a time

not bad time, just time

[gray jacinth]

[fleet narwhal]

“lady aphrodite is hot”
cause of death: dehydration

[timid slate]

@arctic zenith somewhat , is ur pic madline from celeste?

[gray jacinth]

Shade died of thirst

[arctic zenith]

yes

[gray jacinth]

It's incredible

[timid slate]

APHRO WRENG ME DRY

[fleet narwhal]

shades are canonically thirsty

[gray jacinth]

It's a lesson to us all not to simp

[timid slate]

i dont mind dying of thrist

np

[sacred stag]

Don’t remember the quote but I found one with the cause of death being Fall damage

[arctic zenith]

hehe aphrodite

[gray jacinth]

But Artemis

I need to simp that queen

[arctic zenith]

TRUE

[fleet narwhal]

my personal favorite is the “i need to get better at dodging spears”

guess what the cod was

[timid slate]

theusis?

[fleet narwhal]

no, just impalement with spear

[gray jacinth]

Shocking

[arctic zenith]

ARTEMIS THO

[fleet narwhal]

ikr

[timid slate]

wot

[distant night]

I SEE SIMP

WELCOME

[sacred stag]

Don’t remember the quote but I had one with cause of death being elephant

[arctic zenith]

simp artemis

[fleet narwhal]

is there a list of these quotes anywhere

[gray jacinth]

Gay queen with her naked possy hunting while swearing of men ofcource I'm joining the cult

[distant night]

adore artemis

[timid slate]

simp lords unite

[distant night]

😔 ✊

[timid slate]

kek

artemis cat gonna pull one fast skippity now

[distant night]

i have most of them screenshotted, whatcha need

as long as yall dont get sexual or harrassing i'm fine

[timid slate]

ah we just pure simp lords

uwu

[distant night]

uwu

[gray jacinth]

Simping with nectar and only using the bow so she's proud of my weapon choice (also I'm only good at the bow but ignore that)

[timid slate]

@gray jacinth somehow are u programmer?

[gray jacinth]

I'm an engineer

[timid slate]

ur name looks like a camel case variable xD

[gray jacinth]

Who needs paces let em be close

[timid slate]

aaa

[gray jacinth]

Also this is a 5 year old nickname I made when I'm twelve so let me be faithful although it's the second iteration after I realised my young self could not spell awesome

[timid slate]

= u 17

[gray jacinth]

Yup

Good maths

[timid slate]

17 yo engineer wot

xD

[gray jacinth]

I'm an apprentice engineer

Working in metrology

[late creek]

who is ???

[timid slate]

as far as i remember when i was in the collage, engineering was 4-5 yrs

[gray jacinth]

I got my apprenticeship at 16

[timid slate]

civil engineering at least

peh

ah good to be young and not waste time studying crap T.T

mfw im talking like real boomer now

booner -.-

[gray jacinth]

we make fbacy rulers in simple terms in not so simple terms are stuff is so accurate when you do tests you have to do like three tests cus it's too accurate

[timid slate]

now i know i played too much hades

[distant night]

ahh to be old and finally be in pension

[gray jacinth]

Lucky

[distant night]

or whatever itÄs called

[timid slate]

wtf is pension?

i thought prison

im be like wot

xD

[distant night]

OMFG

XD

[timid slate]

good prisons allows ppl to play hades

throw me in np

xD

[distant night]

RETIREMENT

THATS THE WORD

[timid slate]

best type

kek i was googling how to retire at 30

apparently ur parents needs to be rich

kekw

[gray jacinth]

Sounds like a plan time to do a petty crime and Rob a bank for one penny

[distant night]

english is not my main language and it's 3am dont kill me

hell yea

lets do it

artemis simps unite for penny crime

[gray jacinth]

They won't expect us if we all do it

[timid slate]

uwu

[distant night]

uwu

[gray jacinth]

[distant night]

if enough people partake in it we might steal enough pennies for 1mil€

[timid slate]

:D

[gray jacinth]

This cult suddenly he looking like an mlm

[timid slate]

1 mil in pennies

fug

how we moving that

[gray jacinth]

Hmmm

[distant night]

uhmm

probably with some hermes boon idfk

[timid slate]

aaa

[gray jacinth]

A basket maybe

[timid slate]

thonk

maybe just steal 100$ papers?

xD

[warm fable]

just got my first clear

[timid slate]

gj

now try again in 50 heat

D:

[gray jacinth]

[warm fable]

great idea!!!

[timid slate]

no its not

xD

take ur time and enjoy various builds and aspects

[gray jacinth]

a new serve i joined has like five million celebrai emojis so also enjoy these

[warm fable]

wo

[timid slate]

wherz

gife emojis

[gray jacinth]

Blaseball doesn't have any I'm disappointed in them

[fleet narwhal]

like, just to read through would be fun

[distant night]

i could try posting some screenshots on the wiki one day?

[fleet narwhal]

just compiling them in text form would be enough, i think

[distant night]

ye probably

actually yeah definitively sry i'm kinda outof it at this point

[fleet narwhal]

nah its fine

[distant night]

3am gang whhoop

[fleet narwhal]

imagine living in the uk couldnt be me

[distant night]

imagine living in germany, couldnt be me

[fleet narwhal]

imagine living in general

[distant night]

imagine in general? xd

[fleet narwhal]

in general

[distant night]

in

[fleet narwhal]

i

[distant night]

|

[arctic zenith]

||e||

is there a way to skip the opening cutscene

[gray jacinth]

Ahah yeha who would live in that hell hole

[fleet narwhal]

wdym cutscene?

[arctic zenith]

the narrator

that has one line

[fleet narwhal]

like, when

[arctic zenith]

im just doing an extra file

at the VERY beginning

[fleet narwhal]

first thing i remember is like, first run

is there a cutscene at all?

[gray jacinth]

I thought you get dropped into the game play streight away

[arctic zenith]

it doesn’t even matter, it’s only like 15 seconds

before you’re dropped

[fleet narwhal]

well you can check a speedrun of hades if that helps

[arctic zenith]

aight

[distant night]

you cant skip cutscenes

let logan boast his sexy voice

[arctic zenith]

aight

doing my first fresh file

[distant night]

have fun :)

[arctic zenith]

gotten to meg with the clock at 6:28.39

dead

[tight crest]

So ||Hades'|| affection chart has been unlocked for a while but i still can't give him any nectar

Do i need to do something else too?

[distant night]

is he talkig to other people?

cause if so you might just be unlucky with the dialogues

[tight crest]

I've talked to him about 25 times now, not one option to give him anything

I've already gave him one before the true ending

[versed verge]

he gives a specific line that unlocks the rest i forget what triggers it, just keep doing runs is my best advice

[tight crest]

I'll try

[wispy monolith]

'ello ello ello~!

I got Hades on Christmas and I love it so far!

[hybrid parcel]

Hello everyone happy Hades-wins-the-Steam-Awards Eve

[distant night]

welcome!

may the gods grant you swift and safe wins lad :)

[wispy monolith]

So far I've only reached Asphodel, and that's with God Mode on, but it never feels like I died cheaply.

[manic bobcat]

That's good!

Good luck with the runs!

[distant night]

fox is back 👀

[manic bobcat]

I never left 😎

[distant night]

*fox is back to typing 👀

[versed verge]

i just realized

cat and fox

two animals

[rich acorn]

How do you find the snack in styx?

[distant night]

the tunels have a random chance of having it

the first one is never it but every tunnelafterwards has a 25% chance of having the sack

[rich acorn]

What do the skulls at each of the entrances mean?

[versed verge]

it's really only a 25% chance? I feel like it's always the first mini boss one i choose lol

[rich acorn]

Do you have to clear the minibosses there?

[distant night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png

the elite badges

yes, it's a harder mini boss encounter :)

[rich acorn]

Oh wow thanks

[distant night]

sure thing

[lethal island]

Can you increase Chaos Boons's rarities?

[distant night]

with ariadne's yarn, the mirror upgrades and eurydice's nectar, yes

[lethal island]

What about Rare Crop?

[distant night]

that only affects olympian god boons

else it could also get onto uhm

[magic wing]

Haven't seen a zeus boon in a while :( as soon as I get a nectar to gift him for his keepsake he disappears

[distant night]

the purple haze boon

[distant night]

always keep one nectar ready for him? :c

[magic wing]

Yeah doing that rn

[distant night]

good luck with getting him on your next run!

[magic wing]

Thx

[distant night]

dont forget that if you see 4 gods already that he wont appear anymore :c

[magic wing]

Wait that's a thing?

[distant night]

yep

[rich acorn]

Well here I go to ||Hades again||

[distant night]

you can only have 4 gods naturally in your god pool for the entire run

you can only increase the number via keepsake forcing

[distant night]

good luck!

[rich acorn]

Damn it they hit HARD

[distant night]

D: you good??

[magic wing]

Rip saw a zeus boon, but it's in charon's shop

[distant night]

but that means he gets put in your pool!

you can see him normally D:

[tight crest]

Apparently if you charm Asterius and he runs against Theseus, the shockwave still appears

Just had them do 3 shockwaves in a row because of that

Very cool mechanic

[distant night]

long live delta wave!

[tight crest]

Actually

[magic wing]

I dont have enough money to afford it it was in the first few rooms

[tight crest]

I wonder if the wave actually hurts one of them

And if so

Which does it hurt?

[distant night]

focus money in the first few rooms buddy

if you charm asterius it should hurt him

[tight crest]

Actually

If Asterius is charmed

He looks at Theseus for a second and gets uncharmed!

That's an extremely cool detail

[formal hedge]

Eurydice is my wife.... I love this game since my friend told me about it. The art, voice and story is amazing.

[tight crest]

He just doesn't get uncharmed if he's in the ramming attack apparently

[distant night]

ASTERIUS LOVE FOR THESEUS IS BIGGER THAN THE POWER OF APHRODITE'S LOVE HER SELF

MY HEART

[merry current]

Damn im still stuck on ||hades|| I keep getting curbed stomped

[distant night]

abuse him walking weirdly around the obstacles 👀

[nocturne ginkgo]

I just got myself as employee of the month

[tight crest]

Wait

[nocturne ginkgo]

I love employee of the month picture

[tight crest]

I saw someone talking about Asterius killing Theseus once

[distant night]

GG

YESSSSSSSSSS

[tight crest]

So what I think that means

Is that he only can't attack him after they regain their friendship and start doing their new attacks

If that's true

Then that's the absolute best detail ever omg

[agile tangle]

why are ppl drawing Zag's skin as grey-grey like
are they tryna homestuck my boy?

[merry current]

I like petting Cerberus

[distant night]

continue doing it 👀

annoy father dearest while showering cerby baby with love 👀

[merry current]

I already got the achievement

I need a pet him 100 times achivement

[distant night]

same

honestly hades generally needs more achievements

i wanna go achievement hunting lmao

[merry current]

After petting Cerberus 100 times you will no longer have to get him his treat and he will let you by for free

[distant night]

OP

imagine you'd have to do that every single time before a run

[tight crest]

I don't think I'm allowed to post any videos here

But i just got clear proof he gets uncharmed

I could dm it to you @distant night

[distant night]

speedrunners in the future: did i pet cerberus? hell yeah i did, do i look like i wanna get a 5sack

[distant night]

sure

[tight crest]

I can dm it to everyone who doesn't believe it

[lavish skiff]

crystal clarity+glacial glare seems kinda broken

[distant night]

why broken?

cause it does what it says? 👀

[lavish skiff]

ooh also that one that explodes whenever 10 stacks of chill

that sounds like a really fun cast build

[distant night]

it is

[lavish skiff]

and the decay one

[distant night]

a call uild around it is also fun

[lavish skiff]

oh?

like demeter call with blast and decay?

[devout spear]

I love Chiron with Demeter on Special and the explosion at 10 stacks

[distant night]

chiron is such a fun bow with the most amount of builds imo

most weapons are only really working with special builds but chiron? thats a versatile lad

[lavish skiff]

ok so

im using demeter fists

i have lv 4 heroic aphro special

explosive upper

thats p much it

but it shreds

[tight crest]

Okay so i believe Asterius and Theseus can't be charmed anymore after the ||argue phase||

[tender oxide]

Is Chiron aspect bow good if you use lvl one

[tight crest]

I have a clip of both of them getting charmed in the same fight and instantly losing the charm

[lavish skiff]

no not at all

it only fires like 3 or 4 arrows on special

[tender oxide]

Yeah

[lavish skiff]

hera bow is better at lv 1

[tender oxide]

I have 24 titan blood but idk if I wanna use it to level it up

[gilded leaf]

what else are u gonna use it for?

[tender oxide]

Hidden bow special when I unlock it

[lavish skiff]

literally nothing

oh yeah

well

do you want some advice?

[distant night]

chiron bow shines after lvl 3

[tender oxide]

Bow is the only weapon I haven’t really experimented with

[distant night]

pretty much nobody denies it who tried it on lvl 3+

it's just an amazing aspect

[lavish skiff]

i just upgraded it all the way one day and then did some runs

[tender oxide]

I’m just gonna try a run with lvl 1 because it seems pretty good

[lavish skiff]

its fun

[distant night]

so if you can, absolutely go fir it

[tender oxide]

Ooh I got Artemis first

[distant night]

lvl 1 is a downgrade

[lavish skiff]

definitely

[distant night]

it's so bad on lvl 1

[lavish skiff]

terrible

[tender oxide]

Artemis Attack, special, or epic cast

I’ll go attack

[gilded leaf]

epic cast imo

oop

[distant night]

epic cast ye

attack is good too but status curse is a bit better

[tender oxide]

I mean I can give up and go back lol

I’ll just unlock lvl 3 Chiron while I’m at it

[distant night]

nah, yaknow go for it this run but if you feel like it lacks, dont give it up

it really is a great aspect

[tender oxide]

What hammer upgrades are good

[lavish skiff]

for chiron bow?

[distant night]

the volley ones

[lavish skiff]

anything that does stuff to the special

[distant night]

that the more arrows hit the enemy the more damage it takes and #4 volley arrows

those are the absolute best

[lavish skiff]

if there arent any, then flurry shot i suppose?

wouldnt charged volley also be p good for chiron bow

[gilded leaf]

charged volley is incompatible with chiron bow

[lavish skiff]

oh

unfortunate

[gilded leaf]

probably bc itd be op as hell lol

[hollow thunder]

I just bought Hades

Wish me luck

[distant night]

Piercing Volley, Relentless Volley, Concentrated Volley, Explosive Shot is also good with arty

[lavish skiff]

gl

[gilded leaf]

gl!

[distant night]

welcome and may the gods grant you swift and safe runs!!

[tender oxide]

Any ares boons good on bow attack/special or should I just go with curse of vengeance

[distant night]

vengeance budd

[hollow thunder]

Which game is Hades more like? Bastion or Transistor?

[distant night]

more bastion-esque

[hollow thunder]

Gameplay-wise

I love Bastion's gameplay, so that's good news

[distant night]

bastion but if hermes blessed it with speed

or cursed it with speed

probably both

[lavish skiff]

so i dont think zeus or dionysus are in my rotation on this chiron bow run

whats the next best thing

[distant night]

what do you have in your rotation rn 👀

[lavish skiff]

uhh

poseidon, demeter

actually they might be there i just havent seen them

its early

[pliant sparrow]

Zeus is bad on chiron

[lavish skiff]

but if i dont put something on soon then my dps will be doing baby damage

[distant night]

ah you hadnt had all 4 main gods for the pool yet?

zeus is fun on chiron

[lavish skiff]

wait why is zeus bad on chiron

i mean on special

[distant night]

it's fun on the special but other gods are better

[lavish skiff]

those are the things i want on special

[pliant sparrow]

.2 sec delay between lightni Ng

[lavish skiff]

ok

oh

well then

[pliant sparrow]

So you only get one lightning per special

[distant night]

just spam it into other enemies

[tender oxide]

Still don’t have a boon on attack what keepsake should I equip

[pliant sparrow]

whichever god you want the attack to be

[hollow thunder]

Is it hypothetically possible to beat the game on the first ever run?

[pliant sparrow]

Yes

[distant night]

ys

[gilded leaf]

yup

[pliant sparrow]

There is a speedrun categoru for that

[tender oxide]

Idk what’s good on Chiron though

[distant night]

i thought you had arty 👀

[pliant sparrow]

It relies on a ton of rng to get ME

[hollow thunder]

How far did you get on y'alls first run?

[distant night]

5th room lol

[pliant sparrow]

died at meg :c

[gilded leaf]

4 rooms into tartarus

[tender oxide]

I reset so I could upgrade the aspect more and did cast instead

[distant night]

ahh

do you have aphro in your godpool yet?

[pliant sparrow]

What do you have on chiron special rn?

[raw harbor]

Died at megaera

[lavish skiff]

ok i have dio in the rotation

so thats good

[tender oxide]

Nothing

[pliant sparrow]

oof

[tender oxide]

I got cast from Artemis and vengeance from Ares

Do chill and hangover stack for each arrow on special

[pliant sparrow]

Yes

if you have artemis in god pool already id go artemis special

[distant night]

for chiron????

thats so bad

[tender oxide]

I feel like Artemis attack would probably be better

[pliant sparrow]

• heartrend

[distant night]

??

so instead of 10 per hit you do 40?

[gilded leaf]

does artemis special have crit for each arrow on chiron?

[tender oxide]

Is Artemis guaranteed to spawn again since I have a boon for her

[tender oxide]

It can if you’re really lucky

The crit chance is applied separately though, it’s not all or nothing

[gilded leaf]

right

[distant night]

pretty much

[gilded leaf]

i meant like for zeus on special it doesnt give a lightning bolt for each arrow

[distant night]

you can get unlucky and only get her in the end but

[gilded leaf]

so i was wondering if it was the same for artemis

[pliant sparrow]

Chiron with deadly flourish is what haelian recommends

[lavish skiff]

thats just because theres a bolt cooldown

[gilded leaf]

yeah i know that now

would be op otherwise lol

[lavish skiff]

yeah but what if

[gilded leaf]

👀

[tender oxide]

Hermes boon should I do +40% move speed, +20% special speed, or +20% dodge chance

[gilded leaf]

special or dodge

[lavish skiff]

dodge chance

dodge chance

[distant night]

sorry haelian but what

thats SO bad

deadly strike were better

[gilded leaf]

does it bother anyone else that theseus’ top is on his left shoulder in his 2D art but his right shoulder in the isometric 3D model

[lavish skiff]

i didnt notice

i dont pay much attention to douchebags

gottem

[distant night]

👀

ok hellspawn

[gilded leaf]

honestly i cant hate theseus

[lavish skiff]

hmm

[gilded leaf]

his voice actor probably had so much fun recording those lines

it just makes me smile

[lavish skiff]

epic drunk dash, epic peer pressure, or rare positive outlook

i have dio special on chiron bow

[pliant sparrow]

@distant night chiron math: common boons, no pom scaling (crit scales better than aphro special)

aphro: 8 (shots) * 1.8 = 14.4

heartrend crit shots: 8 (shots) * 1.4 * (3.5 * .2) = 7.84
regular shots: 8 * 1.4 * .8 = 8.96
combined: 16.8

[lavish skiff]

but only if you have heartrend

[distant night]

still going back to priviledged status

[lavish skiff]

otherwise its way worse

[distant night]

but also artemis on special is just way worse because it would be so much better on attack

not even taking aphro as example, you have 8 shots that hit the enemy, maybe even enemies between you and the target

so getting something like dio or ||demeter|| that benefits of multihits is so much better

you get virtually no benefit what so ever from artemis on special

[pliant sparrow]

just common boons, no heartrend:

aphro: 8 (shots) * 1.8 = 14.4

crit: 8 * 1.4 * (2*.2) = 6.72
regular: 8 * 1.4 * .6 = 8.96
combined: 15.68

[distant night]

again, i am not talking aphro

i am talking stacking and bow priviledges of hitting multiple people

aphro on special also kinda sucks, but still if you wanna go artemis,her attack is just so much more worth it

if you have bow, use what it's good at

not just general "big damage per hit" stuff because you can hit the enemy up once and uncle dio or ||granny|| do everything for you while you focus on somebody else

[pliant sparrow]

chiron low tolerance vs heartrend: (one special per second basing dps on), artemis scales better

drunk stacks (low tolerance): 5 * 9 * 2
regular hits: 8 * 10
PS: .4
combined: (90 + 80)*1.4 = 238 (for only first volley, must wait for volley to expire first)

heartrend crit shots: 8 (shots) * 1.4 * (4.5 * .2) * 10 = 100.8
regular shots: 8 * 1.4 * .8 * 10= 80.96
ff: .25
combined: 190.4*1.25 = 238

i agree definitely a tradeoff single target dps vs multi target dps

but in terms of sheer single target dps artemis special is best

[distant night]

with the 175, that damage happens continuously tho

[pliant sparrow]

im basing off fact that you get one special in per second

[distant night]

you dont go with bow thinking of hitting the same enemy over and over

you go in maximizing the bow, else you're just using shield

[pliant sparrow]

i agree that dionysus is better for high heat runs where the regular enemies are tougher

[distant night]

even low heat runs

[pliant sparrow]

but if heartrend chiron can oneshot any enemy

[short kayak]

Which chat to discuss hidden weapon aspects

[pliant sparrow]

you can discuss here if you refer to them as hidden aspects

[short kayak]

Its more like. I've looked for videos, and wiki, and cannot. For the life of me. Figure out how to unlock any of them

[pliant sparrow]

that seems kinda highly implausible

[short kayak]

I might also be really really dumb

[lavish skiff]

pinned message in hades story and spoilers

[pliant sparrow]

plus for dio you have to wait for the hangover to expire first before getting max dps again so heartrend

[short kayak]

Ty

[distant night]

heartbreak strike: 30 - 90 damage

• druken flourish: 30-90 + 80 + 9*5 = 155-215
• drunken flourish but with low tolerance: 30-90 + 80 + 9*8 = 182 - 242

wait why is it cursive

[short kayak]

I now understand where I've gone wrong

[distant night]

wtf did i do

[pliant sparrow]

you also put heartbreak strike on heartrend

[distant night]

since you put in heartrend crits

i put in the dio-aphro duo

[pliant sparrow]

i did too

[distant night]

i didnt even add priviledged status

[short kayak]

This is like my first message here outside of goty discussions.Theres a chance I'll be remotely active. Idk. Hi anyway everyone lol

[pliant sparrow]

i added in ff vs PS, and low tolerance

[tender oxide]

Chiron bow is pretty good lol

[pliant sparrow]

dunno why ur specifically talking to me, we just met, but hi

[brisk trail]

glad to see ya sttar

[short kayak]

Lmfao

[tender oxide]

Just vanquished the champions of Elysium on my first attempt with it

[distant night]

then i dont understand your maths

[tender oxide]

Maybe I’ll clear it 👀

[pliant sparrow]

which part?

[short kayak]

I have a friend who consistently takes champions but keeps getting clapped by hydra and I just don't understand

Champions are the bane of my existenfe

[distant night]

all of it

[tender oxide]

Champions are pretty easy imo

[pliant sparrow]

once you learn their moveset it becomes a bit easier

[distant night]

later on,ye

[tender oxide]

I use my ||companion (than)|| right away and take half of both their health if I can manage to get them both in it

[distant night]

it's 6am i aint down with maths rn

[lavish skiff]

well i hit a wall at hydra and then went all the way through champs to ||styx|| and then get stuck on ||daddy||

[short kayak]

I am not at a point where I have ||companion||

[lavish skiff]

now i clear most of my runs

[distant night]

anyways why the +2; why not add the heartstrike since it's literally what you need

[lavish skiff]

well then dont click the spoiler tag

[short kayak]

Poison in ||styx|| always gets me

[pliant sparrow]

drunken flourish, common: 5 damage
9 stacks (low tolerance): 9
does damage twice per second: 2

=> 5 * 9 * 2 = 90

regular hits (8 shots, 10 damage per each): 80

Privileged status: *1.4

combined: (90 + 80) * 1.4 = 238

[short kayak]

Nah kirbox I don't care about gameplay spoilers for hades for the most part

[lavish skiff]

fair enough

[short kayak]

I had a feeling I knew what you were saying

Fogured it likely wasn't story related

[lavish skiff]

its kinda story related

[distant night]

family favorite isnt .25

[lavish skiff]

family favourite is 5% per rank

[pliant sparrow]

it counts hermes

[distant night]

exactly

yeah but we only go off of those two gods

so it should be .1

[short kayak]

I'm at this rly awkward crossroads with hades where (since its my pass-time game and not my sit down and play several hours game) I wanna do all the prophecies, but also have half decent runs

[distant night]

else i could count in call bonus

[lavish skiff]

which prophecies

[short kayak]

Fated list

[lavish skiff]

well duh

[distant night]

or ares hangover bonus

[short kayak]

Whatever irs called

[lavish skiff]

but which prophecies are you going for

[distant night]

we are just talking these two gods, no more no less o.O

[short kayak]

I get tempted by hammers like

[pliant sparrow]

we're talking about the core boons, not just the gods

[lavish skiff]

oh yeah

[short kayak]

-60% max health but +2 health per attack on stygius

And I see scroll and im like "that seems like i will die but also check that box"

[lavish skiff]

well you kinda just have to power through with bad hammers for prophecies sometimes

[pliant sparrow]

its is a core boon dps check at a high level in a run

[short kayak]

Or mt favorite one yesterday

[gilded leaf]

u can absolutely have a decent run with any hammer

[pliant sparrow]

otherwise i would add in artemis scaling, which is much higher than dionysus

[lavish skiff]

imagine if world splitter and flurry slash worked together

[short kayak]

Where I got poseidon special on sword followed by the hammer that gives double special but no knock back, and followed it with the poseidon boon that does more damage when u knock them into a wall

My antisynergy was beautiful

I hated world splitter when I got kt

[lavish skiff]

yeah but it would be way better if it had the speed of flurry slash

[distant night]

then you're also ignoring family favorite does give you less of a dps bonus than those two gods alone tho

my brain hurts this confuses me

it's obvious - taking back from pure dps stats since they dont decide your game most of the time that artemis on special isnt good

[pliant sparrow]

ok ok so heartrend, without any scaling whatsoever, deals 15% less damage than dionysus

with scaling - it does significantly more

[distant night]

but we arent talking about scaling

[pliant sparrow]

and every time you special, you get max dps potential

[distant night]

ok what if you dont get aphro

[pliant sparrow]

you bring 2 god keepsakes

[distant night]

too bad she doesnt want to give you an attack boon

artemis fails

[pliant sparrow]

and what if you dont get dionysus special

[distant night]

dio needs any other status curse

[short kayak]

Preferred basic spear aspect?

[pliant sparrow]

look we can add in a ton of "what ifs" in here