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iron jackal
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Hey, does anyone have Dionysus sound effect on boon pick up like this one? Or is it even possible to get it somewhere?
https://youtu.be/YZZFlcE0fWE?list=LL&t=38

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brisk trail
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Eris still shreds even with common zeus attack tho

grizzled skiff
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I can't stop listening to "lament of orpheus" help

strange adder
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DOOON'T LOOK BAAACK

manic bobcat
narrow hemlock
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its possible to get, its just not something that can be discussed here

icy fox
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So, what's interesting is that I think all runs in Hades are at least theoretically winnable

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Some might be more difficult than others if your RNG sucks, but it's still possible to evade attacks and win with a bad build

manic bobcat
brisk trail
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At heat 3, that kind of skill is still a bit magical for me. 😄

manic bobcat
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Yeah I think the question is at what heat can you reliably do streaks on. And so far, the highest one is 40 heat with like 40 wins in a row or something.

dull niche
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ok bablo’s just insane

manic bobcat
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I think Retrash did 45 heat on 5 or 6 wins (not sure though)

dull niche
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that’s correct

brisk trail
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damn

ashen parrot
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😦

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I lost to Ast.

proper halo
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Am I the only one who when fighting Theseus and Asterius intentionally lures them to the top-left part of the arena so the one shade cheering for me gets a better view of the fight?

pliant sparrow
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nah i think thats a worse view since he would have to look directly downwards

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Friendly Shade
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proper halo
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Well not that close obviously

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But the center of the arena is about as far down-right as I like to go if I can help it

vocal tangle
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So, If i have already purchased hades on one platform, but want to use cross-save on another platform, do I need to buy it again?

proper halo
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Yup

vocal tangle
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@proper halo Thank you

brisk trail
wooden basin
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Does anyone know if there is gonna be future content updates and if they are are they going to cost money?

indigo flint
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We don’t know

void vigil
indigo flint
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A hades DLC would be lit tho

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I’d buy it

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Or if they go the enter the gungeon route and just give it to us for free

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That would be even more awesome

manic bobcat
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The last informal update I saw was from Caitlin who said it during the Game Awards night. She said they were solely focusing on getting Cross save and minor balance patches out of the door.

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Cross save comes and goes. No news since.

indigo flint
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Maybe they are planning a Big Bang secret update

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Or not

manic bobcat
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Well they usually announce things when they are ready, like, really ready to push it through.

indigo flint
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Cool

manic bobcat
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So I suppose it's possible. But cross save came out just before Christmas. Given it's SGG, I think they are vacationing, still (nothing wrong with a well deserved break, just saying :D)

indigo flint
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Anyhow ima try and unlock secret sword aspect

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Idk who I gotta talk too or how I trigger it

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But I think I just have to invest a bit more titan blood in it

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Ima give it a shot

wild ice
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damn in 39.3 hours palyed the story out 😄

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most best story ever!

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congratz supergiant

manic bobcat
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||Did you get to the end credit or the epilogue?||

wild ice
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i got on the boat

manic bobcat
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:D then there is a bit more. some conflicts to resolve.

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but yeah, congrats on reaching the end!!

wild ice
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oooh ther is more story?

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so the main story isnt done?

manic bobcat
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I mean the main story is done. What's left is the ||epilogue|| where it will answer questions such as:
||What does Zag do now?
How will the Olympians react when they find out Zag lied to them?
Demeter and Persephone relationship?
Nyx and Persephone relationship?||

wild ice
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ooh okay 😄

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im never been so much hyped about a story

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bcs normaly i always skip story and just playing the game

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its the first time i ever followed the full story and texted 😄

manic bobcat
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Getting to where you are is a milestone for sure. It made me warm and fuzzy inside when I get there, too :D

wild ice
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yeah 😄

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btw those voices are so godlike

manic bobcat
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||especially when Hades jsut let you go 👀 ||

wild ice
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they arent anoying they are smooth and nice

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yeah

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wtf

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i had finly okay bow build with decent damage

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free blood 😄

manic bobcat
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xD

wild ice
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wuuut what hades asked for zag wtf

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hahahaa

runic agate
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im r

hexed sphinx
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Hey guys, I just beat 100% achievements (Steam) and was wondering, what is rewarding to do after beating the game? I'm not sure it will be still fun to just farm currency to max weapons, etc.

wild ice
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if u did all the achievemnt best is to completed all weapons

winter harbor
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Try finishing all prophecies, maxing all bonds, completing all bounties, challenging yourself by making the game more difficult

brisk trail
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forge bonds with everyone

manic bobcat
brisk trail
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complete the codex

manic bobcat
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I try to maintain a 32 heat streak (to the best I can).

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You can do a self-impose daily run like Sinvicta Isaac series, for example.

dull niche
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speedruns and high heat climbing yeah

brisk trail
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sissaaaaaayyyyy

manic bobcat
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by gawd it's pin

hexed sphinx
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Nice! That's a lot I can do

wild ice
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what i play the best is the gun and de sheild are most OP xD

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max waht u can do buy all contracts

hexed sphinx
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Is it possible to max out all weapons? Cause it seems it requires a lot of titan blood and, as far as I know, we only get rewards until 20 heat, not sure if is still that way

wild ice
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yes

manic bobcat
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yeah

wild ice
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normaly u can max everything

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otherwise its stupit XD

hexed sphinx
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xD sure

winter harbor
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Yeah, you have basically infinite everything

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Just trade for stuff at the brokers or fish or complete bounties, stuff like that

wild ice
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true

manic bobcat
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yeah but heat gives you most of the way there

wild ice
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why would it stop after heat 20 for rewards? :p

hexed sphinx
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I read it on some reddit post

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But I don't know if its true

winter harbor
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I don't know why 20 specifically, but my guess is that they thought that was the highest heat that would be reasonably doable for everyone

hexed sphinx
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My highest is 16 (did it today)

manic bobcat
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Yeah my guess would be that 20 is the heat that they think everyone can do

brisk trail
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ye

manic bobcat
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keeping things accessible, essentially

brisk trail
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I kinda like the positive feedback loop of doing harder heats to upgrade your weapons so you can do harder heats to upgrade your weapons

hexed sphinx
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Me too

versed verge
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I always thought the one that stops giving rewards was 32

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Since I've seen that heat mentioned the most

winter harbor
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No, 32 is only a cosmetic award

versed verge
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Ah that's probs why I've heard it then lol

frigid ginkgo
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Still, 20x2x5 should be enough titan blood

hexed sphinx
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What do you guys feel like is the ULTIMATE goal?

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Completing a max heat run I guess

winter harbor
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The highest heat that's been completed is 60, with hidden bow

hexed sphinx
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Wow, that's crazy

wild ice
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Daamn op

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Then i sux

frigid ginkgo
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What would theoretically be max heat?

brisk trail
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63 in regular mode, 64 in Hell.

granite ether
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max heat hasn't been routed yet, let alone attempted by anyone

frigid ginkgo
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Heck

manic bobcat
winter harbor
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Fox, what was the furthest chamber you made it to?

granite ether
manic bobcat
winter harbor
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That's still pretty impressive

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No healing, no mirror

manic bobcat
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I mean it's very far from clearing it because i was at negative time for td purposes by the shop

granite ether
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ahh yeah TD3 is extremely rough especially with the game saying 'no' at almost every turn

manic bobcat
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yeah, and if you get unarmored enemies in the later chambers

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that's also a death setence

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they don't stop spawning lol

sudden hemlock
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Hey I’m new, I just wanna know what happens when you open up hades with a different Nintendo account on the same switch. I wanna play the hades game but my friend already has a save on our switch

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I looked it up but I keep on getting articles about cross save : (

granite ether
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if it works like link's awakening switch you should have 4 empty save slots

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I don't have my switch on hand to check right now though

sudden hemlock
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Ah

latent sundial
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does the pierced butterfly effect stay if i swap out to another keepsake

manic bobcat
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it doesn't

latent sundial
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hmm

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im trying to decide if i should keep it

manic bobcat
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Butterfly runs are really restrictive imo. I don't use it often

granite ether
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it's the kind of keepsake you stick with for an entire run

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and yeah quite restrictive

latent sundial
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i used to only use lucky tooth and just kinda forgot about keepsakes

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but now im experimenting with others now that i realize i dont need 4+ lives

jaunty bay
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just had approval process block divine dash 🙃

cold gate
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damn acorn actually busted

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i dont take damage from bosses anymore

austere wagon
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Whats the best item to equip before my run

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I got the +50 health thingy

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Is that good or nah

winter harbor
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+50 health is very good

pliant sparrow
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god keepsakes is best to equip pre-run

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usual keepsakes go god -> god -> purse/hourglass -> acorn

vestal estuary
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best item is chiron bow

latent sundial
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best weapon is chiron bow yeah

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after i beat hades the first few times i started using the gun

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it may not be the best weapon buts its really fun imo

brisk trail
vestal estuary
brisk trail
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LENNEHHH

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it’s okay girllllll

pliant sparrow
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chiron is a pretty fun weapon yah

brisk trail
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I prefer the shield

pliant sparrow
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def not best tho

latent sundial
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the sword is pretty good

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anyone know why flame wheels meow?

gaunt pulsar
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it meows? 😮

granite ether
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yep, it does ^_^

gaunt pulsar
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😄

granite ether
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if you listen for it it'll become quite noticable

hollow heron
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My memory is that the original reason was "it would be funny" and it was

brisk trail
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According to the Codex, these chariots are from Nemea, home of the Nemean Lion. Because Greek Mythology is Like That™️, the drivers of these chariots trained so hard that they formed bonds with their vehicles, like rednecks wish they could do today, bonds that infused the chariots with life in the vein of their visage, a lion face.

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The small chariots are small lions, i.e. cats, therefore they meow before they suicide bomb you.

jaunty bay
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just had approval process block a legendary boon : ^)

latent sundial
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rip

pliant sparrow
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haha imagine going above 32 heat

jaunty bay
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i dont want to

brisk trail
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I wish it just, only showed two boons.

latent sundial
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yeah

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i hate knowing what im missing

brisk trail
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That it blocks one out after showing all of them proves Amir is a sadistic blackguard.

jaunty bay
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it would be the same just much less tilting

hollow heron
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Worst feeling in the world is when you aren't using approval process, and get two boons for a god despite them having more left because you aren't lucky enough

jaunty bay
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on the other hand i love how unecessarily tilting it is

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like they could just not show it to you but they do because screw you :P

pliant sparrow
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what heat u doing?

jaunty bay
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4 I just started playing 2 days ago

pliant sparrow
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Oh

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Dont bring approval process then

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Its regarded as one of the hardest heats

jaunty bay
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wanted to get it of the list for the prophecy

pliant sparrow
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Only taken around like 40

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Ah ok lol

dull niche
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yeah prophecy is fair

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after u get the prophecy i dont think id ever take ap before 40 yeah, even then i usually try to do others until i hit 45

jaunty bay
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divine dash blocked TWICE in the same run

manic bobcat
# jaunty bay on the other hand i love how unecessarily tilting it is

I watched Amir and Greg stream their development of the game this one time. They have a spreadsheet of every time that happens. In that stream, they broke into a maniacal laughter as they watch a player die after not being able to get their Duos and Legendary. They said they keep a spreadsheet of every crossed out Duos and Legendary, make sure it is up to date and check it every day. They have it pinned as a memo in the middle of the office with info to keep morale up.

jaunty bay
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AHAHAHA

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glad to know our suffering is causing them entertainment

manic bobcat
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This may or may not be a fictional copy pasta, but it's funny nonetheless

exotic fjord
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Hello fellow humans

alpine stratus
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hello!

granite ether
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hola klinkHi

severe remnant
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Hey maybe this is a noob question, but is there any way to tell which olympian each boon is from during an escape attempt? I'm looking through my boons while paused and it's hard to remember which ones came from different places and it would help me to know.

weary widget
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Each colour relates to a different god

exotic fjord
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Yeah

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And there are different icons

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Zeus is a lightning bolt

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Aphro is a heart

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Athena is a sheild

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Poseidon is a blue trident

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Ares is a red trident with some spike thingys

severe remnant
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Right, I guess I don't see any associated colors or symbols on the boons in the boon pause menu

exotic fjord
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The icons are under their portraits

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It’s kinda faint but it’s there

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Also your fine

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I had a hard time figuring out who was what when I started out

severe remnant
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Haha I feel like I'm blind, I really can't find anything on the screen like you're mentioning 😂 maybe that's good feedback for the devs to add that or make it more apparent?

exotic fjord
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Maybe lol

severe remnant
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I would attach a screenshot but I can't in this channel

exotic fjord
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It’s kinda like a watermark

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Oof

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I’m kinda new here so idk where you can

narrow hemlock
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upload your image elsewhere and link it here

exotic fjord
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Ohhhhh

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Smart

narrow hemlock
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to make it easier you can literally just make your own personal discord server to throw stuff onto 👀 then you wont have to go through imgur or whatever else

exotic fjord
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Lmao

pliant sparrow
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Each has unique colors

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Zeus is yellow, artemis is green, ares is red, etc

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You can also put ur cursor above the boon to see what it is

severe remnant
exotic fjord
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Oh

severe remnant
pliant sparrow
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Pink is aphro

exotic fjord
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Oh wait you don’t have the thing yet

pliant sparrow
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Red is ares

exotic fjord
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What run are you on?

pliant sparrow
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Medium tan is athena

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The colors for each god are pretty distinct

severe remnant
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like run 30 or something

exotic fjord
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Oh

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It’s in the codex

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The watermark thing is under each God’s portrait in the codex

severe remnant
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right right, but for this boon focused in the screencap

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I know its aphro

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but only because it has hearts

exotic fjord
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It’s also pink

severe remnant
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for all of the non obvious ones, we need to look them up in the codex

exotic fjord
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Only Aphrodite is pink

severe remnant
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sure some aren't colored with the olympian color though

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what about those?

exotic fjord
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Then they aren’t from an Olympian

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It’s just what aspect your using

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Or hammer upgrades

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Or maybe a buff from a well

severe remnant
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hmmmm so anything from Olympian is distinctly colored?

exotic fjord
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Yeah

severe remnant
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Still seems unclear for noobs, it would be really helpful to have a "source" for each boon in the bottom left corner

exotic fjord
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yeah lol

severe remnant
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haha thanks for the clarification, much appreciated

exotic fjord
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Np

severe remnant
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Awesome game btw, I've played all of the supergiant games and this is one of my faves so far honestly

exotic fjord
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Cool

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I gtg now but hope I helped!

tribal sierra
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I am not familiar with the rail
So what hammer upgrade is ideally for Zeus

It's delta chamber, rocket bomb and explosive fire

radiant estuary
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Delta Chamber

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Mostly because Rocket Bomb works best with boons that give a percentage boost rather than a flat increase, and Explosive Fire's main benefit is a bit irrelevant when you have Zeus on attack

brisk trail
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RIP Explosive Fire.

rapid forum
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Why is that?

spice hearth
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it's a tiny explosion

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Zeus' attack spreads way more effectively

rapid forum
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And the slow doesn't proc in that case?

spice hearth
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I think it would although, the main benefit Edo was talking about was the explosion, not the slow

radiant estuary
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I forgot it even had a slowing aspect

brisk trail
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The slow is not very strong.

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It used to outright stun enemies, like other physical attacks will.

indigo flint
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Bruh

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So I completed another run

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And this time there was a fishing spot in ||Greece||

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And so I fished all was fine and it was cool

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And then I did the little story

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I come back home

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Give my fish to the chef

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And this dude really comes up with a titan blood

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How the hell did the chef get titan blood?

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Also you’ll get there eventually

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Where’s the highest you’ve been

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WHY?

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Spoiler in this channel

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Also, ||that’s cannibalism, hades is a titan||

pliant sparrow
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||obviously the chef gets titans blood from the local blood drives||

indigo flint
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Why would he ask the chef to cook with titan blood

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Like bruh

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I have to kill people for that

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And chef just pulls up when I give him a FISH

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Sure it’s an overworld fish

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but a single FISH

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is the chef secretly some powerful god

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Cause I’m just amazed

prisma wind
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Have you seen the chef wield that knife? Probably has a Titan hanging in the cellar

little trellis
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got this game a like 2 hours ago and now im addicted

steady lava
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Sameee, been playing it past 3 days a ton and my wrists/fingers actually hurt a lot

little trellis
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im a toned gamer my fingers never get sore

south comet
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How many attempts did it take yall to beat the game for the first time?

smoky flower
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11 for me, but I think up to 40 is within the norm

little trellis
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ayy i just beat meg

granite ether
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ayy niceu klinkHyper

little trellis
main drift
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Wish there was a cosplay channel here so I can show my progress for my Hypnos cosplay

tribal sierra
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I finally got a victory in a months time of owning this game.

granite ether
main drift
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I guess uwu

little trellis
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rip i almost killed the bone hydra

brisk trail
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there's always next run

vast gulch
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Hey uh very important question, did Hades style his mustache after the underworld's logo or is the underworld's logo based on his mustache

paper thicket
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Man I would love for there to be a directory for all the voice lines in this game.
Many of these are so quotable and can be used for reaction purposes, like Zag's "Love it." after receiving an Aphrodite boon.

brisk trail
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"what's for breakfast? dinner maybe?"

severe remnant
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is there a place, in game, to see a list of all boons with all of their details?

paper thicket
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I believe it's a compendium upgrade.

severe remnant
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gotcha

paper thicket
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It's a contractor upgrade, IIRC.

severe remnant
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Would love to see a place where we could show off our best builds

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Like hearthpwn, the website where you can post decks for hearthstone with tons of details and wiki pages for all of the stuff

narrow hemlock
severe remnant
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lol obv that's not a trivial little weekend task, but it would be cool to see someone make it since the wiki pages seem to exist on a couple sites already

hollow harness
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Heck

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Heck me man, ||got hades down to a one-hit the died :(||

pliant sparrow
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||second phase?||

hollow harness
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||ye||

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||thought I had him :(||

smoky sparrow
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Hedis

dense crescent
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||Second Phase Begins||

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||Instantaneous Death||

hexed sphinx
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Why the hell || is Asterius hitting Theseus now?|| xD

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I am curious about it

winter harbor
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It's a team move, their shockwave

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And Lernie just melted to hunting blades, thanks to a last minute ares cast I grabbed

hexed sphinx
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Oh, got it

winter harbor
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I keep doing cast builds on shield even though I don't start out wanting to do a cast build

hexed sphinx
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Man I'm surprised about how much damage hunting blades is capable of doing

winter harbor
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I didn't even want ares in my build at first

hexed sphinx
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I thought it would be weak, but I was wrong

rapid forum
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I killed ||theseus|| by recalling my spear

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how do you like it now, king?

dull niche
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lmfao

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thats fantastic

winter harbor
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It made me go from this is an Aphrodite attack build to this is a blade rift cast build

vital sand
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I received the Aphrodite Zeus duo boon and the Zeus ||Demeter|| duo boon

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made boss three hilarious

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Since I also had Aphrodite's Aid

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||Theseus unleashed Ares's full blast directly on Asterius||

chilly dock
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How do you see all your current boons

calm arrow
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press B?

chilly dock
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Ty

calm arrow
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np

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sorry if the question mark made that look condescending; didn't know if that's what you were asking

vital sand
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Note that it does not pause the game

calm arrow
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found that out in the middle of an encounter, ha

upbeat sable
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Quick question: Is there a limit to how many Olympians you can encounter in a single run?

winter harbor
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There’s a soft limit of 4 + hermes but you can get more via keepsakes

upbeat sable
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that explains a lot

calm flare
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What does Hades have such good music residentzag

ancient pilot
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Got this game for Christmas and I’m loving it! If it released on console, on god. I would double dip for this game

void shell
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quick question, how early are you supposed to run into the other 2 Furies?

narrow hemlock
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it's on switch

ancient pilot
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I am but a poor lad and can’t afford a switch Sadge

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I do have an old ps4 tho

winter harbor
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Does supergiant have a history of releasing on console?

manic bobcat
runic agate
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Holy crap the dead cells server is toxic af rn

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Just had to block three people becuase the walked up into my DM and started talking crap

craggy barn
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oh yeah that reminds me

runic agate
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because i said dead cells wasnt better then hades

craggy barn
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i've never played dead cells bouldy

runic agate
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then i had 3 grown men swearing at me because they didnt agree

craggy barn
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i mean it's very likely you're right bouldy

gritty roost
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oof

runic agate
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dead cells is good but dang dude stfu

gritty roost
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dead cells is a great game as well

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but idk it didnt click for me

craggy barn
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i should actually try dead cells

runic agate
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Dead cells is awesome and fun

craggy barn
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risk of rain looks fun but not if it runs at 24 fps on my crappy laptop

misty jolt
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Crazy art on Reddit. Absolutely amazing

runic agate
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but the community seems garbage

craggy barn
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weird to hear about an indie game community being toxic

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then again, there's the whole fiasco that was undertale

prisma wind
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If you want to talk about Dead Cells, please do so in #video-games shadethumbsup

craggy barn
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ya'll think aphrodite runs an onlyfans?

upbeat sable
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that isn't a question

ionic shuttle
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But she isn't hot

runic agate
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she naked all the time anyway

prisma wind
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Reminder to keep it clean and respectful on the server, thank you

brisk trail
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Well her looks DO represent what kind of goddess she is

rapid forum
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my friend got aphro
Aphro called him little godling
Him : "wow I feel so special"
Me : "it's aphrodite, that's not exactly an achievement."

versed verge
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I think she would but not cause the normal reason

ionic shuttle
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Best boons are between dionysus and athena though

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Aphrodite is also pretty good but underrated

versed verge
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Like i can't put into words lol

brisk trail
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So true i love dionysus boons

ionic shuttle
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I got a build where my hangover stack was increased by 3 (aphrodite/dionysus) and I had an 8-shot drunken flourish with chiron 🔥

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But yeah dionysus stacking is good

rapid forum
#

Dio's legendary is one of my fav legendary

upbeat sable
#

nothing can top Poseidon's tho

rapid forum
#

Not wrong? But I still preder dio's

runic agate
#

BEEEG KNOCKBACK

upbeat sable
#

Not that one

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the Fishing one

rapid forum
#

Oh

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No doubt

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S tier

brisk trail
#

Ok unrelated but what is fav weapons

rapid forum
#

Makes farming easier

rapid forum
upbeat sable
#

Fav weapon? the big punchy

granite ether
upbeat sable
#

specifically the secret big punchy

rapid forum
#

Not shield? the audacity

gritty roost
#

anything not-shield for me lol

rapid forum
#

Okay

gritty roost
#

though tbh aspect of ||zeus|| is pretty fun

rapid forum
#

Bow for more focused run

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Spear and sword for relaxing ones

brisk trail
#

Call me basic but i rlly like the sword and absolutely hate the bow

rapid forum
#

And fist for whenever I'm high on caffeine

ionic shuttle
#

LOL what are the chances that you get that fishing legendary boon from poseidon at the beginning of the run

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I've only gotten it once then

brisk trail
granite ether
#

it only ever happens once

ionic shuttle
#

ohhhh

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ok

rapid forum
#

It was only once but very rewarding

upbeat sable
#

you need Ocean's Bounty and Sunken Treasure to get big Catch

ionic shuttle
#

ik that

upbeat sable
#

or just get the conch lol

prisma wind
#

You can still get it after that during a run, but it's not easy to do while being early enough in the run to make a big difference

ionic shuttle
#

Yeah big catch doesn't work well unless you're early in the run

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Asphodel is the optimal place to get it bc tartarus catches are worth nothing anyway

versed verge
#

Speaking of posiden fishing ||how do you do his 25 fish prophecy||

prisma wind
versed verge
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||you have to catch one of every fish right?||

prisma wind
#

No, I don't believe so

upbeat sable
#

definitely not

granite ether
#

you do however have to ||have caught 1 legendary fish from memory||

versed verge
#

||Okay then either my one choas fish isnt legendary or I needed to catch a fish before talking to him||

upbeat sable
#

wasn't it ||1 from each area||?

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I think I just found the worst Trial of the Gods in the game, ||Ares/Demeter||

#

I hate fighting against both of those

ionic shuttle
#

aphrodite/poseidon is worse

upbeat sable
#

i forgot aphrodite ngl

ionic shuttle
#

Though demeter in theseus battles is b a d

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it's so annoying when I get it

versed verge
#

Aphro's attacks feel like they just spawn at random, hate it

brisk trail
#

Aphro is rlly powerful i would hate to be on her bad side

rapid forum
#

I'm just scared she'd made me fall in love with my own reflection dusa

upbeat sable
#

Just become a vampire it's not that difficult

brisk trail
#

Just like dio

rapid forum
#

I did not think about that

hexed shore
#

I reject my hangover Jojo

rapid forum
#

"These wines givinge me HYPE"

supple lodge
#

You expected your lover to be Theseus! But it was me, Dio(nysus)!

rapid forum
#

who wants to be theseus's lover?

hexed shore
#

Theseus prolly

supple lodge
#

Ariadne if we're talking mythology

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the details are blurry but it's something like Theseus left her and she got with Dio instead, or Dio was a mr steal your girl

hexed shore
#

Maybe theseus hates zag cause zag is basically dio

supple lodge
#

i wish there was a special line for when you call on dio during theseus' fight

hexed shore
#

Lol he himself calls dio

supple lodge
#

he does?? oh my god lmao

#

you'd think he wouldn't forgive dio for stealing his gf

rapid forum
#

Or blame himself for his father's death

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Maybe that's why he befriended asterius

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He was lonely

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Nah screw him

south kestrel
#

In the myth, Theseus is seen as a great hero, yet at the same time he abandoned a woman who betrayed her own country because she loved him and helped him to go through the labyrinth, and forgot just to change the veils of his ship thanthink

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Maybe beside that, he still accomplished great deeds, he did after all.

ionic shuttle
#

Dionysus

versed verge
#

Theseus is a true hero. Is abandoned by his people, dumps a girl who gave everything to him, and only killed the monster with help of others

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A true greek tale, showing the point of many Greek myths. Mortals are useless. Which funny enough is why the greek phosphors are so well known cause they disagreed with the ideals painted by ancient Greece so much

hearty pumice
#

hey guys anyone here?

near peak
#

so i need help i defeated ||meg and her sister's with 5 different weapons and got 5 titan blood now i need to know what should i use it one to get my 1st win?||

weary widget
#

Which weapon and playstyle do you enjoy?

near peak
#

i enjoy the shield rail and bow

#

so uh which aspects should i go with?

weary widget
#

What do you like about them?

near peak
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the shield the ability to block and throw ur shield from far distances rail has a huge rain with its normal and special , and the chiron has nice range but the reloading of the special is a bit slow

weary widget
#

Eris rail is always a good bet, Hestia if you want to manually reload.

#

Since you like fast ranged, maybe Eris

paper stirrup
#

Eris rail does no wrong- a maxed out eris rail can basically just chuck boons in slots and win (on lower diff)

All the rail aspects are good, but they definitely want the full five levels

rapid forum
#

Aspects you can't go wrong : chaos shield, eris and chiron

weary widget
#

Seeing as they have only like 6 bloods, then Chaos and Chiron will not be great

near peak
#

o

rapid forum
#

Hmmmm

weary widget
#

Hera bow is good off the bat

rapid forum
#

Zag bow is my personal fav

near peak
#

whicch one is aspect of eris i just see ||achille's and hades for rail||

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||and zag||

weary widget
#

Those are spears my dude

near peak
#

oop

rapid forum
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Lmao

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Yes I also love to reload my spear

sonic sequoia
#

Started playing tonight
games fun on my 17 attempt made to the butterfly ball any certain weapons anyone recommed

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And good any boons you think work well with some weapons

near peak
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imma go with chiron for now what aspects are good for that?

sonic sequoia
#

Is chiron fun I have not tried it yet

paper stirrup
#

If by aspects, you mean god boons

sonic sequoia
#

But I did just get it

near peak
sonic sequoia
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Weapon aspects

south kestrel
near peak
#

just get the owl pendadent off the bat

sonic sequoia
#

Thanks I'll keep that in mind

near peak
#

ez

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give athem some nectar when u find her

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athena*

sonic sequoia
#

Ik

paper stirrup
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Chiron... IS the aspect. Of the bow.

sonic sequoia
#

Yeah

#

?

smoky sparrow
#

haydeez

#

nuts

#

ye

near peak
#

yeah but it feels weird calling it the heart seeking bow-

sonic sequoia
#

Yeah sane

rapid forum
#

Just call it bow my dude

sonic sequoia
#

Same

paper stirrup
#

General way to refer to a specific weapon aspect is [Aspect Owner] [Weapon Name]
Chiron bow, Eris rail, Achilles spear, etc

near peak
#

**ah thanks **

smoky sparrow
#

hades discussion

fading gazelle
#

Lmao I thought this was the one channel they didn't touch

sonic sequoia
#

How long did it take u guys to get your first run or win

smoky sparrow
#

50 hours

sonic sequoia
#

Damn

near peak
#

i have 30 hrs- in this game

rapid forum
#

First win around 20 hours I think

smoky sparrow
#

30 hours minus

sonic sequoia
#

I started tonightzaglol

rapid forum
#

Iirc

near peak
#

the max i reached is dying in elysium's ||minatour boss||

sonic sequoia
#

I got to butterfly ball

rapid forum
#

Wait or was that the end story

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Forgot

smoky sparrow
#

percy jackson

near peak
smoky sparrow
#

yes but

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percy jackson

near peak
#

yea ik it has greek history in the book i liked the series but this is about the game

paper stirrup
#

My first win on the file I started fresh for 1.0 was on run 24.

sonic sequoia
#

Triple shot piercing volley or chain shot

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?

paper stirrup
#

What bow aspect

sonic sequoia
#

Chiron

paper stirrup
#

Volley

fading gazelle
#

Triple

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Oh

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Chiron

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Lol then volley

near peak
#

also i just realised i used the spear twice and got my best but with the other stuff i tried multiple times and just barely defeated the ||hydra|| and wiped in elysium

sonic sequoia
#

With why volley and I don't think volley helps with bosses

paper stirrup
#

Boss damage is an area where Chiron doesn't need help

fading gazelle
#

I don't pick it cause it helps, but it's the others would screw me over

paper stirrup
#

But it does need extra punch for armor room clear

sonic sequoia
#

Guess u are right

near peak
#

true

#

im still deciding wut to use my blood on

paper stirrup
#

Also, if it's hammer 1, Piercing volley will crunch hydra heads

sonic sequoia
#

Oh bet

fading gazelle
near peak
#

with spear point blank shot is my fav currently , but i also got a hammer upgrade with a sword that gives me 2+ hp every time i attack a entity

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which is just broken

paper stirrup
#

That hammer also cuts your max HP by sixty percent.

fading gazelle
#

I personally hate that hammer

near peak
#

yeah i think by 30-

fading gazelle
#

But that's just me

manic bobcat
fading gazelle
#

Triple would screw the reticle wouldn't it?

manic bobcat
#

But damage though

sonic sequoia
#

Im getting a lot of arti this run lol

near peak
#

imma go try and use bow with no aspects to defeat meg or her sisters so i can get 6 bloodlines and then make my choice

paper stirrup
#

If you only have 50 HP, yes, that will be 30 HP lost- but it's 60%. It also affects every future heart and HP gain

fading gazelle
#

Ik but they're new to this and are using chiron

near peak
fading gazelle
#

Mostly likely gonna spam special

#

Triple would make it harder to consistently special

sonic sequoia
#

Special on bow kinda bad ngl

#

With chiron it's kinda better imo

fading gazelle
sonic sequoia
#

Kinda

near peak
#

i cant choose between spear and bow ive heard bow can get ez wins but need alotta blood

weak thorn
#

Bow almost carried me through my 32 heat run last night

sonic sequoia
#

I like spear I feel like the spin needs to be faster

#

@weak thorn pog

near peak
#

i dont use the spins at this point

weak thorn
#

If only I hadn't used my summon while theseus was still impervious 😭

sonic sequoia
#

Lol

paper stirrup
#

Achilles spear is good at one point but the play is weird

#

Takes some getting used to

sonic sequoia
#

I'll try it soon

weak thorn
#

Achilles spear is actually really fun

fading gazelle
sonic sequoia
#

I'm not liking the gun it sucks rn

paper stirrup
#

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love it, I'm just made of ham

weak thorn
#

Gun + zeus

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= ez

sonic sequoia
#

With Lucifer aspect

near peak
#

rail is fine for me is ok but with the right boons it carries hard

sonic sequoia
#

Need to know what boons go well with ot

weak thorn
#

Special build for the gun can also be really good

sonic sequoia
#

Ot

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It

weak thorn
#

Zeus attack

manic bobcat
#

Hestia is a strong independent women who needs no boon.

sonic sequoia
#

@manic bobcat pog

paper stirrup
#

For lucifer I am of no help
I SUCK with that aspect

weak thorn
#

Im just starting to unlock my hidden aspects which im happy about

#

Can't wait to try the bow one

sonic sequoia
#

Fire

near peak
#

im gonna go with spear i think

#

it seems fun

sonic sequoia
#

Yeah take it

near peak
#

u have to be always moving and holding ur mouse to use the bow

sonic sequoia
#

Im not in to keyboard and mouse

near peak
#

i am usually

sonic sequoia
#

Lmaoo whatever works

paper stirrup
#

I started with KB+M and swapped to gamepad.
Movement it a lot more natural with it

near peak
#

yup i tried using an xbox controller it was actually horrible-

fading gazelle
#

Why not use both? dusa

near peak
#

i suck with stuff like that

fading gazelle
#

Lol im not joking

near peak
#

ik

weak thorn
#

Switch gang

manic bobcat
#

People made some pretty horrific, I mean interesting, configuration

fading gazelle
#

Like actually dusa

near peak
#

i cant afford a switch-

manic bobcat
weak thorn
sonic sequoia
#

Y'all think drunken strike with chiron bow works

manic bobcat
#

No

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Drunken Flourish, maybe

near peak
sonic sequoia
#

Lmao

manic bobcat
#

Drunken Strike, no

sonic sequoia
#

I got arti on the special

weak thorn
#

You'd NEED the aphro duo

manic bobcat
#

Put your Hangover on dash

near peak
#

sad

manic bobcat
#

If you really want to get duo

near peak
#

i use drunken strike and bad influence to increase its dmg more

sonic sequoia
#

Ima just take positive outlook

manic bobcat
#

And say Heartbreak Strike on attack

#

For Heart Rend

near peak
#

with the bow

sonic sequoia
#

I'm getting nothing but grape man and arti what the mess

weak thorn
#

For chiron either use art/aphro/dem on special imo
You can also do aphro on attack + ares on special if you get the right ares boons and their duo

#

But the setup is harder since you need quite a few boons before it starts working properly

sonic sequoia
#

Oh ok good to know

#

Wait this go crazy

manic bobcat
#

Zeus is also ok

weak thorn
#

Artemis/aphrodite on special are considered the best due to doing the most damage
Dem on special is nice for a more defensive build

sonic sequoia
#

Arti on special with PV hunters mark on chiron

manic bobcat
#

Despite icd, Zeus is good on Chiron

weak thorn
#

Zeus on special is kinda meh due to the cooldown on lightning

sonic sequoia
#

I just beat the big purple crystal and took no damage

manic bobcat
weak thorn
#

Or so I've been told, i need to actually try it myself to see just how many lightning strikes you actually get

#

Especially when you get like the +4 arrows hammer

manic bobcat
#

I mean Arty on special is still ideal imo

sonic sequoia
#

Clean kill arti aid or arti attack

manic bobcat
#

Especially with concentrated or relentlessly volley

weak thorn
#

Aphro attack + artemis special and their duo is kinda pog

paper stirrup
#

Zeus on bow special is... pretty bad. >.>

manic bobcat
paper stirrup
#

Found that out the hard way

sonic sequoia
#

Bet

weak thorn
#

Artemis aid is nice for bosses imo

sonic sequoia
#

Yeah

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I like her aid

paper stirrup
#

I like artemis call, the bar being 5 segments of 20% instead of 4 segments of 25% means that you can more easily trigger buffs from boons that go off when you call

weak thorn
#

Billowing strength shadeohboy

paper stirrup
#

yuuuuuuup

manic bobcat
#

Second Wind

sonic sequoia
#

First time fighting murder 😂😂 lost 2 DF but I took her down

near peak
#

epik gg

near peak
brisk trail
#

I think Hades has the Heat record.

near peak
#

hm

rapid forum
#

Me on the last run
Lost a DD to the fury
Me : this is going well
Found athena with DD replenish
Me : this is going well
Lost DD to ||normal rat||
Me : This is fine

sonic sequoia
#

Pain

rapid forum
#

On the bright side, I actually finished the run

near peak
#

sometimes u question ur self why u are playing and wut life choices u did to come to this point

#

which is the best aspect of spear i rlly dont know

#

🤔

rapid forum
#

Achilles for me

#

Great cast builds

#

And a lot easier to uh, proc than hades aspect

noble hinge
#

Hades aspect is badas

near peak
#

welp i can get achille's to lvl 3 while hades to lvl 2

noble hinge
#

Speen hits like half the screen

sonic sequoia
#

Bru zag aspect just sucks on everything huh

rapid forum
#

Not really

near peak
#

max zag on bow is decent

noble hinge
#

It’s decent on shield imo

rapid forum
#

Zag bow, zag rail, and zag fist are great

noble hinge
#

Used it until I got hidden aspect

rapid forum
#

Tho you have to max them, but they're cheap

sonic sequoia
#

I don't even like shield

#

Lol

near peak
#

so lvl 2 hades aspect or lvl 3 achille's spear aspect-

#

HMM

paper stirrup
#

Ask yourself thid

#

Do you spin attack

#

Are you okay with it being SLOWER

#

If the answer to either is NO

#

Hades is not for you

#

And pick Achilles

near peak
#

i dont even use spin attack its just an annoying trick for me

vapid narwhal
#

I personally hate Hades aspect

#

stick to achilles

near peak
#

so lvl 3 achilles

#

leggo

sonic sequoia
#

What's a good attack for nemesis sword

vapid narwhal
#

artemis all the way

#

you want all the crits

noble hinge
#

Maybe aphro on special?

#

I think there’s a good duo boon with arte

paper stirrup
#

Art attack and aphrodite special is standard for Nemesis Sword

sonic sequoia
#

I all ready got eris on the special

paper stirrup
#

Going for heart rend duo

rapid forum
paper stirrup
#

Eris is a rail aspect, not a sword boon...

sonic sequoia
#

Lol

#

Dash nova double nova or cruel thrust

#

On nemesis

paper stirrup
#

Cruel Thrust because it messes with you the least

sonic sequoia
#

Lol

paper stirrup
#

Dash Nova requires you playing around it, double nova loses the knockback which can be a big deal

sonic sequoia
#

Damn

paper stirrup
#

It's one of those things you don't miss until it's gone

#

Cruel Thrust, however, is all upside

supple lodge
#

Thanatos sure is bad at flirting huh

sonic sequoia
#

Lol

paper stirrup
#

You might not USE it often, but it's there.

sonic sequoia
#

Yeah it is there

paper stirrup
#

Thanatos needs a copy of 'Your Emotions and You'

supple lodge
#

First thing he says to zag sounds like a threat lmao

#

"You left, without so much as telling me goodbye. I suppose you know I'd catch up with you sooner or later, is that it? No escaping death, and all?"

paper stirrup
#

When playing Nemesis Sword- heck, pretty much any sword- Double Edge is a great hammer (Dash strike hits twice and for bonus damage). Sword dash attack is a large part of it's game for both mobility and offense

sonic sequoia
#

I'll take it if I see it 100%

paper stirrup
#

Super Nova (Special is larger, Minor damage increase) isn't impressive, but it's honestly one of the better hammers for sword because almost every sword uses it's special

sonic sequoia
#

Makes sense

paper stirrup
#

For picking hammers, general guidelines for what to pick, from highest to lowest priority

  1. Does this hammer improve what my build is doing or supposed to do?
  2. Does this hammer give me a new option worth using?
  3. Does this hammer give me a minor benefit?
  4. Which option doesn't hurt me?
  5. Which options hurts me the least?
sonic sequoia
#

Will need to keep that in mind

paper stirrup
#

Also important to note that you can only get 2 hammers per run, and the second one can only show from Elysium onward.

sonic sequoia
#

I did not know that thanks actually

upbeat sable
#

There is a possibility to get a third Hammer buff but that requires the anvil being present in styx

#

and the anvil itself is RNG reliant

#

it removes 1 random Hammer buff and grants you 2 random Hammer buffs in return

paper stirrup
#

Above is also accurate.

upbeat sable
#

And it also costs 300 ish obols

paper stirrup
#

275!

sonic sequoia
#

Damn

upbeat sable
#

close enough

#

that's like 2 fully upgraded gold pots

#

or 2~3 rooms with Side Hustle

#

not a big difference

rapid forum
#

one time I used nemesis, bought anvil, traded cruel trust for hoarding slash and dash nova dusa

upbeat sable
#

Curb your enthusiasm theme plays

rapid forum
#

my dps dropped by 40%

#

cause i only had 5 coins

upbeat sable
#

Curb your enthusiasm theme plays louder

paper stirrup
#

Anvil kills my runs more often than not

rapid forum
#

it feeds my boredom

#

so that's enough

upbeat sable
#

I almost anvil'd when I had the Gilgamesh only upgrade

#

wanted to get the pom next to it

paper stirrup
#

Because however bad you think your hammers are, they can always get worse

upbeat sable
#

speaking of hammers

sonic sequoia
#

Damn lol

rapid forum
#

I'd be more than happy to trade cursed slash

upbeat sable
#

Shadow Slash on Arthur yay or nay

paper stirrup
#

That's backstab damage?

manic bobcat
#

Yay

upbeat sable
#

should be

rapid forum
#

yay

paper stirrup
#

Not bad and worst case doesn't hurt

manic bobcat
#

One of the better hammer on Arthur tbh

paper stirrup
#

Big numbers

manic bobcat
#

DE Shadow Slash Breaching Slash

rapid forum
#

you can't go wrong with backstab

paper stirrup
#

Are the reason you play arthur, soooo

upbeat sable
#

gimme that Flurry Slash Arthur tho

manic bobcat
#

you literally can't tho

upbeat sable
#

that's the funny haha

rapid forum
#

200 base damage to 25?

#

no thanks

upbeat sable
#

how do you guys build arthur?

#

I just make it a crit build because ooga booga big number

manic bobcat
#

Yoy don't, you slap a shackle on that bad boy and bring it all the way homes while avoiding the pesky Olympians

#

Except for Artemis because she and her boons are cool.

rapid forum
#

I build arthur with olympian favor dusa

manic bobcat
#

And I'm saying this unironically

sonic sequoia
#

Just lost 3 DF to the bone dragon

#

Then died to lava

paper stirrup
#

Oof.

upbeat sable
#

big oof

paper stirrup
#

Normal or EM hydra?

manic bobcat
sonic sequoia
#

Normal duh

#

I just started don't even have heat yet

paper stirrup
#

I haven't seen normal hydra in... Eons

upbeat sable
#

Normal Lernie doesn't exist he can't hurt you

#

Normale Lernie:

sonic sequoia
#

Damn lol 😂😂😂😂😂

manic bobcat
#

I love that Adventure Time pfp though

sonic sequoia
#

He hurts tho

#

Thanks

#

I keep getting hit when he slams his head on me

paper stirrup
#

I find that once you've run it enough times Hydra is easier than furies

sonic sequoia
#

Lol

paper stirrup
#

He hits harder but attacks slower

sonic sequoia
#

I hope so I lost my first trys on meg and I haven't lost to the others yey

#

Yet

#

Got close tho

upbeat sable
#

for me Lernie is easier than Alecto but harder than the other 2

paper stirrup
#

Alecto is a dangerous woman

sonic sequoia
#

Ong

wild ice
#

this run im doing is so bad haha

#

xD

sonic sequoia
#

Like how they made it evan tho it's a lot of "life" Everyone and everything is so sad and kinda depressing

ornate zephyr
#

||Dusa legit just friendzones Zag, lmfao||

craggy barn
#

how do you actually friendzone your crush

supple lodge
#

lmao @ Hypnos asking Than to Thanos-snap all the mortals so they can spend more time together

craggy barn
#

he's lonely

supple lodge
#

i make sure to talk to him every time, i cant bear to ignore him lol

sonic sequoia
#

Same

#

Lol

sudden widget
#

Hypnos is probably always asleep

#

His god power is looking awake

#

Advanced auto pilot

supple lodge
#

does that mean than is always dead and his power is looking alive thanthink

sudden widget
#

That would make sense since hes Than's brother

#

200 IQ

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Sorry my brain is too small to answer that

rapid forum
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he's not dead

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tho

supple lodge
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he's dead inside

sudden widget
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Nah

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Hes a cute lil puppy

ornate zephyr
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No, being into Than is canon since you're ancient Greek : ^)

sudden widget
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Hypnos that is

supple lodge
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gotta confess I got pretty fed up with Than since he only showed up after 40+ runs for me

sudden widget
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That's alot

supple lodge
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and the first thing he says is "why didn't you say goodbye to me???"

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bro,,, than
you weren't even at the house

sudden widget
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I beat the game at 24~ tries and I'm p sure he showed up before i beat the game

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Well a lot of Zag's life isn't shown to us as the player, even your "first" attempt in game isn't his first

supple lodge
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i sincerely hope he has character development because hoo boy his first ever convo wasn't really as cool as i thought it would be

sudden widget
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Wait you're still not done with the game?

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If not then yea he gets better

supple lodge
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yeah not done ofc

sudden widget
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Less edgy and stiff by the end

sudden widget
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Doesn't get time to blow off steam

north spire
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i just entirely died to a glitch in the game, got a blessing from chaos which (for 5 attack encounters you will take -5 health then after gain max +35 health) the encounter didn't even lose 1 encounter. thanks to that my run got ruined

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happened twice today with 2 different blessings from chaos

craggy barn
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are you sure you just didn't die a little too fast

brisk trail
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is it better to explore all the chambers in the temple of styx or just until i get the bag for cerberus

rapid forum
brisk trail
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whgats dd

rapid forum
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death defiance

brisk trail
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i already lost all of mine lol

north spire
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nope, not at all @craggy barn . I had a blessing that took my health by %65 in exchange of 2 health every hit, i've hit enemies, and i had about 5 different boony things that upgraded my max health some were +20 some +34 and some 30+ etc

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the encounter just didn't even drop once, i clearly read what it was that's why i took the blessing

weak thorn
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F10 in game

north spire
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each swing killed me, and then my death defiance activated, and also my health from that finished and then i died from swinging and taking -5 each swing, which it should've ended after 5 attacks

weak thorn
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you can report the bug

north spire
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okay thanks @weak thorn

weak thorn
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?

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wait what

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"which it should've ended after 5 attacks"

north spire
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yes

weak thorn
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it ends after 5 combat rooms

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not 5 attacks

rapid forum
weak thorn
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thats not a bug then you just misunderstood what it was saying

north spire
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that doesn't make any sense at all @weak thorn ... for 5 combat rooms each sword swing takes -5. who in the hades can survive that???

weak thorn
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you use the special/cast

rapid forum
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yep

north spire
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it wasn't a special or cast encounter

weak thorn
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once you get used to it those ones aren't that bad they just stop you from using one type of attack

north spire
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that's why i wasn't taking the damage while using either of them, neither did the encounter go down

weak thorn
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encounter = combat room

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when you clear one room with enemies in it the number will go down

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say you get a "-5 health each time you use your attack for 5 encounters", you just have to clear the next 5 combat rooms with your special/cast

north spire
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so none of you got this blessing from chaos then? 5 encounter = rooms you say, each swing deals -5 health damage to me, how in the hell am i suppose to out heal or even survive that?! that is not how that blessing worked

restive thunder
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ooh, we're talking about that chaos boon, i see. i've had it before, proceeded to get showered in enemies best dealt with by using the attack i just locked off. also a miniboss and a boss shadedisgruntled

weak thorn
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we've all had it multiple times probably, the best way is just to use the special attack/cast attack instead of your main attack

upbeat sable
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Which weapon did you have?

weak thorn
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i don't know how to explain this any better someone please help 😭

north spire
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only Q and special? wow.. i would be dead in the chamber i was in, i wasn't in Tartarus, Asphodel, i was in Elysium

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using only q and special for 5 different rooms would be ridicilous idk

restive thunder
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spear. thankfully it was only tartarus and the furies aren't that bad, but still...

north spire
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i had the Stygian Blade

upbeat sable
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Blade can do decently without attack

weak thorn
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taking a boon like that in elysium is kinda dangerous unless its something that you're ok with not using (for me i dont use cast too much so i'd pick a "-5 health each time you use the cast")

upbeat sable
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atleast you didn't have Exagryph

weak thorn
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yea with the blade you just have to spam the special

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its not great but if thats the situation you're in its probably just not a good idea to take that boon

north spire
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that run i had was so good, i was expecting to proceed much further and even beat minotaur and his pal without a problem

upbeat sable
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what were the other options?

north spire
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that encounter thing i got was a suicide encounter of some sort

restive thunder
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that boon must be hell with exagryph, ngl

weak thorn
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depends on your build

upbeat sable
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imagine that thing with Dem Gauntlets

weak thorn
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there are special based rail builds that it would be fine with

north spire
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my build was perfect, i don't tend to take boons if there are max life + rooms, i have my own way of fighting out

upbeat sable
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Maimed anything would be hell for Lucifer Rails tho ngl

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wait

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can you proc hellfire with your cast?

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i mean detonate

spice hearth
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i think so, it seems to detonate with any sort of damage

austere wagon
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guys what does per rank means

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raise +5 hearts per rank

molten nymph
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uh... what rank?

austere wagon
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uhh

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how do i send picture

molten nymph
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oh

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is it mirror?

restive thunder
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in the mirror menu?

austere wagon
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yeah

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thick skin

molten nymph
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you can invest darkness multiple times

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each time you invest you get +5

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up to +50

austere wagon
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oh

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okay

restive thunder
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yeah you can just buy it multiple times

austere wagon
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yeap i just upgraded it

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also

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do i take lucky tooth or old spike collar

restive thunder
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up to personal preference.

rapid forum
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hmmmmmm

austere wagon
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lucky tooth is basically extra chance right

rapid forum
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yep

molten nymph
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yes

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lucky tooth is +100 hp

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spiked collar is +50hp, +25 for each DD?

austere wagon
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i have my old spike collar at lvl 3 whcih +50 hearts

molten nymph
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if you have two DDs, i think spiked collar is better

austere wagon
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my lucky tooth is still at lvl 1

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whats DD

molten nymph
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death defiance

austere wagon
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oh

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yeah i have +2 dd

molten nymph
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if you only have one then tooth is better

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then i'd go with spiked collar

austere wagon
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but i struggle to fight the 3rd boss

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and everytime

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i need 1 more chance

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i cant kill one of the boss

molten nymph
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think about it like this
skelly is just +100 hp you get if you die

cerberus gets you +50 flat out
and then you get half your health back per DD, so 25 per DD

austere wagon
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but also health is very important because i always take unnecessary dmg

molten nymph
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if my math/memory isn't wrong then that should be uh... 125?

austere wagon
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my skelly only restores 50

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up to 50

molten nymph
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it will go up to 100

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but still

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cerb wins out

austere wagon
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yeah i havent upgrade it

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whats cerberus again

molten nymph
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i think acorn beats them both, but i'm not sure

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spiked collar

austere wagon
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oh

molten nymph
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how much damage does the bull deal per hit again

restive thunder
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too much

austere wagon
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^

molten nymph
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if its over 25 then acorn is the best

austere wagon
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i dont think i have acorn

molten nymph
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its from eurydice

austere wagon
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oh wait i do

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nvm

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0 dmg first 3 times foes hit you

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for me

molten nymph
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can you swap trinket yet?

austere wagon
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where to swap

molten nymph
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its an upgrade you get from the contractor later