#h1-discussion
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Butterfly seems like the optimal play once you're better at the game but then you lose a lot of control over your build with gods' keepsakes
Voted game of the year. Been telling everyone i know for the last 6 months that this IS the game lf the yeat
Year
yo 20% discount is like
the wrong move
it should be
-20% discount
you should charge more money
you're usually running AP2 which means runs are like 4 random boons held together by duct tape and hope
The higher you go the more you are at the mercy of rng
Not that I've beaten 50
What’s the best weapon? I’ve beat the game on heat 7 with max aspect of Zeus shield and once with no heat with lvl 1 aspect of Achilles spear
the "best" weapon is the one you're most comfy with
Erith rail is the best for speedrunning but +1 to what aggy said
game is balanced nicely
eris rail is the most used aspect in speedruns, partly because it's been labbed out a metric tonne and thus people know what works well with it
and people tend to gravitate to what is deemed the fastest, even if there's other aspects that can be just as fast
Demeter fists for example
the voice acting is so unbelievably good
love pierced butterfly with my heat: dmg ^ runs
I tend to gravitate to eris special builds
i really like spear
Tfw you get offered no boons for 6 chambers straight 
No, I’m thinking fists
||heat||16 is hard
I feel like heat becomes a heck of a lot easier if u got speedrunning basics down
Since the standard speedrunning heat can go up to 15 already and it gets you used to max TD And FO
Hey I apologize if this has been asked before but is there any news or are there rumors of a physical release on switch? I wanna get it on my switch but if there's a physical coming out soon I don't mind waiting
Should be visible in the boons on the left
spoiler tag that
yo @low nexus the final boss is a spoiler in this channel, please use spoiler tags or refer to them as either final boss or redacted 
@tacit rover there's no word of a physical release of hades afaik
alright I'll just buy it digitally for now. Thanks so much!
no worries, hope you enjoy 
soprry
tbh I love this game so dang much I'd probably also buy a physical copy.
Same
There are few games I would actively get twice
Hollow Knight, Stardew Valley and Among Us were on the list
Hades will go on it too
loaded up hades for the first time in a few days, immediately loads in final boss area 
what is wrong with me
bruh i lost lmaooooo
I am sad and angy.
i have caught nearly 200 fish and have not gotten a perfect catch once
i know i have to be faster than .35 sec or something, but i feel like im pretty darn fast
is this a glitch or something?
theres also like a 1/20 chance to get a legendary fish
the identity of the final boss is a spoiler in this channel
@vague gulch mind editing your comment please?
you didnt have to delete it entirely but thanks 😄
Now they won't know why I'm sad and angy.
lmao fair
do you usually button spam to move right after fishing? i noticed that even if i was way more fast than necessary i wouldnt get any perfect catches when spamming to immediately dash away
guys, is artemis attack buff bad or am i missing something?
unless by +200% they mean 3x damage
yes
100% = 1x damage; +100% = 2x damage etc
thats how percentages work or do you mean something different?
Nah, it's just games arent really ever clear on that
200% might be a multiplier for example
Is there somewhere I can see my cumulative percentage
thats only if there's no + before it i'd say
Would be nice
but wait, so that still means artemis is underwhelming
what do you mean? i'm talkign strictly about the attack buff here
so much free dps and just crit is nice
whats wrong with attack buff?
ok, so the average olympian attack buff gets like +100% damage right? on epic?
nope
while artemis is 15% chance crit and 30% bonus attack
Hi when you're gifting Hades to your friends and family this Christmas don't forget to call them "boyo" in the note kthx
i think the crit chance alone is worth it
only athena or aphro comes close to 100%
the highest is aphrodite's with i think 90%
Cause why not have a 3-5% chance to deal thrice the damage every once in a while
^
look, analyzing the crit bonus alone, the average damage will be: 0.85 * (3*1.3) + 0.15 * (1.3), which is 1.69x damage, while the average olympian gives +100%, so that's a simple 2x damage
the average olympians donot give +100
Random crits are fair and balanced.
+100 is the absolute max which you still need one pom for
uh what do you mean? i think i've seen 130 even
Only demeter poseidon and aphrodite go above 100%
they dont go above unless heroic tho too
And you can always combine Artemis for her duo boons which increase your crit chance
their max is 90-100%
On epic, unless im on drugs and i dont know
if ur gonna go the whole argument of "look if i max out one gods boon while comparing it to an artemis attack without any crit boons", thats pretty unfair
What about Athena though?
epic is 90-100%
Athena has low percentage
athena's base percentage is 40
But she makes up for it with riposte which is insane
epic is always base x1,8-2,0
Heya, so I was just curious- how do you use titan's blood? I talked to Achiles, he said "the weapons will thirst for it, but not now"... so is it just do more runs?
aphro's base is 50, hence why her epic reaches 90%-100%
unlock all weapons
then you can unlock aspects of them
to upgrade your weapons you use titans blood
unlock all weapons first, go one run afterwards and then you can unlock aspects
You don't need to clear
sure thing <3
Just unlock all
sometimes you need one run afterwards
for it to really trigger, better to be safe than sorry
Yea but one run is different from clearing
oh i didnt notice i said clear sry
If you dkn't know how to use something or when something new will happen, keeping playing is usually the right answer
yah hades isnt the type of game to hide some stuff behind super obscure interactions
^
you just needa keep talking to everyone, keep playing the game
Anyway I don't know if I like Artemis on attack except bow and like hestia
secret sword aspect
Haven't tried it yet
i get 5k hits regularly its nice
Ooh that sounds pretty nuts
hidden bow aspect, archilles spear
It takes some getting used to, your attacks are way slower
achilles spear with artemis attack?
zeus cast, artemis attack w/ flurry jab
for a spin build maybe
the speedrun meta is zeus cast with either artemis dash or attack, depending on what hammer u get
yeah i guess artemis strike isnt that bad
i didnt know the crit was 3x
thought it was 2x
See but what about Artemis on special with dio on attack cat
Now you can crit even more often
true
yah essentially
Yes
try to unlock 5 weapon aspects
Upgrade some spear aspects
not for the spear
in #h1-story-discussion the pinned; if you are really desperate and dont kow how at all
you needa unlock 5 weapon aspects
Basically for unlocking any weapon's hidden aspect you spend blood on the weapon
the spear is special
flurry jab is so boring
i just noticed which hammer you were talking about
serrated point tho 
yah thats the other build path
flurry jab isnt a build path tho
i mean for speedrunning
it's just for when you're too lazy
just jitterclick instead of holding down
i think there is a similar for bow, gotta check it tho
flurry shot feels weird
No more charging is very different from just clicking extra
Yes flurry shot always throws me off
yeah but it's similar in that you dont get the special attack
Everytime I take it I dash and charge my shot only to realize nothing is charging
yeaaaaah
so unlock 5 hidden aspects fully or just 1 point?
you need spear hidden to unlock other hiddens
wasnt that one the not zags tho
or was that sword
since zag aspects arent new aspects but just upgrades
Time to play a game with coronacht that is "where the heck did my cast just land"
Part 2: Oh heck, I'm in asphodel and it's a million miles away in the lava.
Lol ikr charging the bow only to realize damn it it's gonna go too far
Also charging the bow only to realize damn it I didn't load a bloodstone
Finally played since 1.0 dropped on switch and look at those new death animations 🥺 they're bootiful
zag do be back flipping tho
also feeling good that i broke my speed record by like 0.75 seconds, ha
speed is speed
indeed
Bye dad, see you later does sick backflip out of the backroom
what does the river of styx taste like?
Zagreus
...Poppyseed. And Zagreus.
never thought of it that way
W-what does Zagreus taste like?
Rebellino
iron
..Rebellion too
wait theres trillions that have traveled through there though
it tastes like a public pool
Yea but only one guy travelled through there a trillion times
So now he tastes like Styx so naturally Styx tastes like zagreus
percy jackson series says it taste like pain
Zagreus confirmed to taste like pain
🍞
Breadreus
for ||rama bow ||
sniper shot
||repulse shot||
or triple shot?
I'd say the second
cause first is unbearable to use, third while useful for room clearing. That weapon's special is good enough already
aight
idk when triple shot is useful, unless the enemy is directly in front of you
bow becomes a melee weapon with triple shot effectively
Triple’s real good on bow
I did a zag bow shotgun
Esp that one
that was fun
I can't really use it because I rely on the lil arrow path thing to aim
Don’t think the second hammer really does much
and having 3 of them is really disorienting
isn't that what y is for?
idk how effective triple shot is, it could be better than a shotgun special build
y?
twin shot slaps
agreed
twin shot + hidden bow
Twin is the real shotgun
What's charged volley
hold bow special
slaps on chiron
Charged Volley shotgun build is great
Smh Misinformationty
Chiron is easy mode
yeah seemed like it
I beat my first (and last) 32 heat with it so I can confirm
my chiron run had piercing and relentless
I had the PB&J relentless volley and concentrated volley with arty special
Lvl 1 Chiron is rough tho
Zag's commentary when interacting with things is great.
"Who needs sleep?"
Me, it's nearly 2 in the morning.
My poor pan heart cannot take how pretty everyone is someone help
how do you know if you've got a big pom vs a little pom?
how about in styx??
are regular poms the non mini boss doors and big poms the mini boss doors?
thanks!
I also wondered about more expensive boons in the store, are they increased rarity or just regular?
I can get like 2 of the same god and they'll be different prices
yeah they're increased rarity
the more expensive boons / poms are basically as if you got them from a miniboss room as far as i know
Zagreus: That's a lot of coin
Me: It was 10 coins, Zag.
lol true
thoughts on patroclus' keepsake on hell mode?
there's a lot of enemies that can do a lot of damage without invincibility frames, but idk how useful it is compared to everything else
I am of 0 help there since I seem to only use Skelly's tooth ;w;'
Me too screwy
I use acorn most of the times
acorn is okay if you're passed lernie
but the first area has the crystal miniboss and he can drain a hell of a lot of health from his beam
Just bought it and I already love it. Never played a roguelike but this is really good.
acorn is just ok, and hell mode for an experienced player is not THAT different
On my last run I had stubborn defiance, wanted to kill myself for bigger health.
dodges proc
twice
almost failed my TD cause of that
I finally have sub 20 minute runs
They’re like 19 minutes 30 seconds but it still counts
I used lambent plume on zag fists and stacked dodge chance
Sadly it didn’t proc in every room but it still hit dodge chance of over 20%, and I got another 20% from greater evasion
There's a mirror upgrade that can temporarily greatly assist in dodge chance too
This sounds like bait
I have an unsuspecting feeling the game actually knows what I need/want. I've been doing randomizer run since yest, and every time the randomizer set me to a god keepsake, the game gave it to me before I had the chance to equip the god keepsake.
weird
It's the 5g towers 
there's almost no support of 5g in my area
That's explains why
Same actually. Tried that yesterday with 27% on lambet plume + fists
Sadly i had the choice of Normal Dodge chance vs Epic Attack speed, couldnt resist. q.q
But was a good run still, even though it's only been about 45% dodge (+dodge dash) :p
after TLoU2 robbed hades of GOTY steam better give it LUL
I mean Hades won more or about the same amount of GOTY awards compared to TLOU2 so...
Also TLOU2 is PS exclusive xD
ehhh right now it's a bit less
last time I checked it's about 1:2
plus critics centric awards tends to give the edge to Hades
audience votes are TLOU leaning because you know, PlayStation and marketing
either way, Hades is getting praise from a multitude of publications ^_^
^
vs a 30 person team that made a game during a pandemic
tlou only won cuz it was a polarizing game



Isn't it hard for hades to win steam goty since it's based on votes
I'm new here, so sorry if this info is posted in some obvious place, but
Is there any info on dash iframes? I can't wrap my head around where they start and end, since I still seem to get hit at the start of the animation
They end if you attack, that's probably why you're getting hit. Empty dashes have i-frames, dash-strikes do not.
But they start on frame 1?
I honestly can't tell from any footage I got if it's iframes that start later or active attack frames that start earlier than telegraphed
I hate when rail special just decide to change target mid flight
just tried using them for the first time on a 17 heat run and that was a struggle
maybe I'm just trash but damn
@brisk trail 4th aspects are spoilers in this channel as an fyi 
Well, || aspect of Gilgamesh needs to be trained with, mostly because of the 25% damage you take from debuffed ennemies, but once you understand it, trust me it's veeeery effective ||
my bad
||yeah the dmg out put was really nice but the slower attack is whats gonna take getting used to||
||the extra dashes are really nice to have, and make dash builds really interesting||
||I basically only use basic gauntlets and Arthur||
|| Yup, personally I go for dash > special, and often dashing everywhere. You get +2 dashes, which makes it 4 with Nyx mirror. You can start with Athena's dash, or Ares's, and use Aphrodite on normal attacks ||
||Also yeah I got the hammer upgrade for the 900% dmg against armor so any armor was gone instantly||
that's the best hammer fists has to offer I think
|| Yeah, this one is fun with Gilgamesh claws :D ||
no matter the aspect
||I wonder how the range increase would work with the fact that they swipe though seems like it could be kinda interesting ||
if i knew how to mod the game I'd make a mod that reskins cerberus into a giant three headed shiba inu and that's it
are there any hades win streaks rewards?
I don't think so.
How about a consumable item in the well of Charon in between biomes that allows the player to reuse keepsakes that were already used? Let's say I really want Artemis legendary but encounter her too few times during my run due to bad luck.
unfortunately that's not gonna be a thing, Greg gives an explanation in the linked steam thread
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/1864993755183591660/
So, as much as i love the base model for Zag, i feel like we should be able to change up his clothing/appearance to some degree. Could be simple reskins to complete overhauls. Would love to run around the underworld rocking some Hoplite inspired armor. Is this something we could see in the future? Is it something people apart from me would like ...
that would have been pretty incredible ngl
if they could do that i would pay real money for god themed skins
same
I would be willing to pay for a Thanatos themed outfit
I'm a little too obsessed with than and zag
So I'm using the Shield with the Aspect of Chaos, and am I going crazy or did Chaos just randomly say "Yes" while I was fighting
yep, chaos talks through the shield sometimes ^_^
thats cool
Oh that's awesome! Any other weapon aspects do this?
I don't think so
Chaos is awesome and they are lovely
just don't let them take care of children
chaos also talks when you have the chaos egg equipped
It's kind of really wholesome when you think about it, I imagine Chaos gets all lonely just spending infinite eternity in the void, and they get to see the outside world at least through Zagreus and the shield
God damnit, now I feel bad about using any other weapon/aspect besides Chaos shield
chaos' pronous are they/them btw 
yes
AY
possibly pan
poggers
So zag loves pans?

there's lots of good LGBT rep in Hades ^_^
I had a friend who stopped playing when he learned this
I like how you bold the "had"
oh yeah
what did he expect from olympian gods
I learned he was homophobic as hell
he never knew I was pan until then and he blocked me lmao
Good, you dont need him
well you're valid as heck here 
same, I want one irl
Not even sure where it's from
A prop from one of their games?
I want a life size model of stygian
I want one hung up on my wall
i don't get how big it is
its about half the height of zag
in game its about a head and half above his head while on his shoulder
I like big swords and I cannot lie
#fan-works message (this one)
maybe zagreus is just really small
Maybe hades ordered something his size cause he expected zag to be as tall as him
let's say hades had a lot less capes before zagreus grew up
||it's his fault he burn his cape every time we fight him||
you're not wrong
so I've learned how hard Poseidon can burst
damn the right combination can delete a group instantly
I tend to avoid arty these days
Artemis with the bow that special tracks the person your attack hits is a DPS carnival. Plus Artemis extra arrow that shoots is great with Coronacht, also her dual cast boon is lethal
ey, someone any idea how to get Flame Wheels Release to show up? I have tried the well just before elysium and wells in elysium itself, but i just cannot find it
Keep checking wells in Elysium
oh im specifically getting every key room i can find so that i have max amount of rerolls possible
it's been 30 runs now without finding it LOL

so it should showup in the wells WITHIN elysium itself right?
Yeah, i think so
i have close to 150 attempts and seen it like twice
Granted not all of those i reached elysium
that is not alot
yeah thats true
im at 120 now, around 75 of them i atleast reached mr final boss
i havent seen it yet
wonder if Hades well know enough to have it weapons made by Man At Arms or any forge youtuber
why it seems that RNG mess with some of you badly?
FYI, I have 1 less achievement that is Skelly 3 statues and haven't completed Chaos Assault boon just because I never used Fiery Presence at all
how do the styx rooms work with rare crop?
hello?
well if someone later is on and knows the answer to my question please ping me
I know side hustle counts every room
I'll elaborate more than that
Hermes keepsake %dodge & Thanos keepsake %attack only count last room
Another thing such as Side Hustle from Hermes, Rare Crop from Demeter, rather spoiler Pom keepsake and perhaps to some extend Chaos curse count every room
how many successful runs has everyone had?
what weapon has the most do you think?
from your runs
what the hell was that. ||im in the temple of styx and the room i just cleared was insane. waves of giant rats and bothers and snakestones. i lost so much health||
hi guys dumb question incoming: what is the order of the boons on the left side of the screen
attack - special - ???????
Attack - Special - Cast (bloodstone) - Dash - God Call
||is it random chance whether charon sells diamond or titan blood at the temple?||
it's RNG
ok ty
omg nemesis is so fun
what does it do again?
ive only been using hidden and max zag lately
whenever i sword that is
aha
im simple
ok but what if you got arty atack
would it stack?
does arty stack with zag bow
and do you get hunter mark if you crit with nemesis or zag bow
idk i was having bad luck with artemis which is why i tried nemesis
i wonder how fast you can go with zag sword, plume, and heroic hermes speed buff
oh thats rough
can you add levels to greater evasion?
what dodge does heroic evasion give
how many opportunities are there in an average run to get plume boost
could you theoretically get like 70 dodge chance?
and then with heroic second wind you could be basically invincible
this sounds like it could be fun
i should do a run with max zag fists and plume and pray for hermes
see how high i can get the dodge chance
theorycrafting is fun
well, this is disappointing. i wanted to read about aegis so i googled it. if you go on images the entire front page is some vape company lol
How do you get the hidden aspects?
pinned thing in story and spoilers
Hey I forget, is one ambrosia for one titan blood a good deal?
guide for each of them
like
give a blood get a brosia?
or vice versa
either way it depends
Vice versa I’m guessing
well thats just the normal deal
i presume theres the other way as a limited time sometimes
Isn’t there only really a use for 4 ambrosia
wdym
You give one ambrosia to each of the people that give you ||companions|| right
And that’s all you use it for
Oh sorry I thought that was the limited offer
I think you give it to anyone after you can't give them nectar any more
- ||you can give more if you care about the lore and characters||
speaking of,
||how do you get past the barrier for achilles and patroclus||
||whats in satyr sacks? satyr flesh?||
||rat entrails i think||
or maybe ||just straight up rat corpses||
something of the sort
||right after i asked i gave one to cerberus and it said "they contain vermin"||
so i think you're right
aha
also can someone help me with this
mmm. next binging with babish episode
yep
on youtube
he's had episodes where he recreates food from popular shows and movies etc
i think ||satyr sacks|| should be next
oh for sure, don't wanna waste perfectly good|| rat meat||
lol
Does this game allows you to blow stuff up?
sometimes
oh no
there are explosions yes
Sometimes won't do
the special on the gun is a bomb
Oh, right
but it doesn't really blow up terrain apart from pillars
Demoman Zagreus xD
theres a few enchantments that make other weapons have explosions
explosive shot on bow, explosive upper on fists, etc
also some casts kinda splode
like dionysus cast explodes into trippy mist
when you|| choose a song to be played in the house, ||does it stay like that or does it reset after a run? not sure if spoiler, better to be safe
i think maybe a little spoiler, also idk
||just unlocked the aspect of arthur (no idea how) man, it's pretty cool||
does anyone else think shield takes longer than all the other weapons or am i just using it wrong
wdym longer
Clear time
yeah clear time
It's prolly true, I just sit and block a lot
yeah same
there's like a 15 minute difference between my shortest run and my shortest shield run

||Zag for Smash||
||Zag for Fortnite||
ahahaha I found Zegreus in Middle Earth
See in his eyes
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770646969612763177/791359982276050952/unknown.png
||Zag for 'smash'||
Bruh I just got two duo skills in a row that I didn’t want
I’m tryna get that ares Aphrodite duo for the basically poison effect on the last weapon
And it isn’t giving it to me
I’m mad
so uh
athena spinny shield with ares on attack and double hit enchant
and that duo that makes reflect things activate doom
merciful end i think its called
what im saying is that's my build
Dang that’s really good
Anyone know how to unlock the fourth level of ||Extreme measures||
You gotta buy it from the contractor
^
I can't remember what exactly triggers the option to buy though
Ares/Aphrodite was the first duo I ever got and it's still up there as one of my favourites
if you reach the true ending i think
and beat the final boss again
I already have
huh
I shall seek googel
aid of the wiki
And I’ve done level three of ||extreme measures||
Ok I’m in the process of doing my ||eleventh clear||
you dont need to do any sort of ||em|| to get it
but if you want to, go right ahead
im not sure what you're missing though
I unlocked it before clearing EM3 so it's not that
yeah i didnt even do any ||em|| before it unlocked
Finish that and hit the contractor then
Ohh, you haven't got the 11th clear
||ten clears|| are the true ending right?
hey does anybody know how to ||unlock the relationship barrier with achilles and/or patroclus||
||it's when the credits roll||
this might go into stuff you havent played through sorry
It's mostly just dialogue
The only other person needed there is ||Nyx|| I believe
wdym needed?
like do i have to ||invest nectar and then get past her thing?||
to be clear im asking how to ||be able to invest ambrosia in achilles||
For all the shades ||Nyx|| has to give you a piece of dialogue, but getting past her locked heart is not necessary
Getting past ||Achilles and Patroclus|| locked heart requires a ton of dialogue between the two
||nyx has to talk to you about achilles and patroclus?||
ive been doing dialogue between them for a while
Eh, Zagreus will ask her a question and she'll answer, and part of that is needed for ||Patrichilles||
You'll know when it's over, but it's a pretty long affair
It is im just bad at remembering ;-;
Zag will ask ||Achilles how he can get past his contract and Achilles will reply (I'm avoiding spoilers), and Zag will point you towards speaking to Nyx||
oh
||zag has asked that before p sure but achilles dodged it||
and what about ||sisyphus||?
||Sisyphus, Orpheus and Achilles|| require input from Nyx
Means you've still got some ways to go :>

im tempted to just do ||guan yu|| runs and then kms as soon as i do/dont get patroclus
maybe add some ||lasting consequences||
also does the final boss chamber have a higher fish chance past true ending because it seems like most runs i get a fish there
if i win that is
can rare crop affect chaos boons?
also
i cant seem to unlock hidden shield aspect, despite doing all the things and talking to the person
Did you spend 5 ||titan blood|| on one of the other aspects
yes
Or maybe you have to max out one of them
i maxed out base one and then upped the other two by a level each
Idk then
and then i talk to the person with shield equipped and no convos for runs on end
I’ve heard that it isn’t as good as the other aspects are anyways
i still wanna get it
And you've unlocked the hidden spear?
Wait, to unlock ||Demeter|| do you have to beat the final boss or defeat the final boss?
reach the surface.
so you dont have to beat the boss
So beat the final boss?
just get to the arena
no. you just reach the surface
Oh perfect
doesnt matter how the run ends
have you tried not doing that?
Any particular area of their fight you're having trouble with?
All I can suggest if focusing on ||Asterius|| first then target the other guy
I’ll come back when I reach and beat him
Hav fun
Yeah, he does the most damage to me
Ima try targeting him then getting the champion
I used ||Tight Deadline|| for the first time in a run and beat it first try 
His attacks are swipe-swipe lunge, then 3-4 lunges iirc
So try learning to avoid those while looking for a pink recticle on Zag (that's ||Theseus'|| ranges attack), when it goes from light pink to dark pink, dash out of the way
or just hide behind cover
Aight thx
Lol I just made it to him
I’m bouta fight him with 10 hp and one death defiance
Wish me luck
Good luck lol
The good thing is you’re one shot under 30 hp so it doesn’t matter how low you are under it
im heading into asphodel with hidden bow and my dash attack is doing absurd damage
and i have rare crop on hunter dash
so it will only increase
Ok nvm I died lol
I lost death defiance in two seconds
And ||asphodel|| did the rest
I use the shield because otherwise I can’t dodge his attacks and still hit him
I was using the bow because it had +20% shadow on it
Tbh I’m best at shield
And I like sword even though it’s simple
i like all bows, hidden sword, p much all fists
and hidden rail with certain enchants
Aspect of Zeus is my favorite shield
Bow Hera aspect is my favourite
poseidon is a close second along with the secret spear aspect
Achilles is my favorite spear
i dont really like spear
I’ve only beat it with spear and shield
really cheap to invest too
abuse shield block and get titan blood ez
How do you unlock the hidden aspects btw
Pinned in #h1-story-discussion
You’re going to need a lot more than five lmao
at least 8 per weapon if you want to unlock the aspects
It’s 15-17 to fully upgrade a single aspect
Only 5 for zag aspect
other than zag aspects
Yeah
eh
I spent all my stuff on normal death defiance tho
the first step to becoming a high heat player
It cost a lot tho
stubborn isnt necessarily broken, it just has more specific uses and how you utilize it also depends on how good a player you are. there is a specific part of late game that will require it at high difficulty
you can just spend a key to get all you darkness back
Anybody know a good Aiges build?
Oh yeah that’s true
I’ll do it later tho when I can upgrade it twice in one go
I really want demeter for her duo boon with Athena tho
what does it do?
I'm no good when it comes to build advice but I tend to put stackable boons on faster hits (so something like hangover on the shield attack)
or zeus
||heal you when you have no death defiance|| @lavish skiff
I believe it gives you 1 health per second while you have no dd's
Yeah Zeus is awesome on attack
its better with stubborn
I love hangover but the thing is I haven’t gotten Dionysius after the first 2 runs
I haven’t even been able to give him a gift
It’s sad
and I’m on like 17 runs now
oof
Aight guys should I get rare divine strike or epic divine dash
don't worry im on like 34 runs now and i still haven't given ares a gift lol
There's still Aphrodite and... I don't remember off the top of my head but most if not all Gods give you a secondary boon that gives curses
I guess that makes no sense
Divine dash is good but it’s rarity does nothing for it
While divine strike actually benefits from a better rarity
doesnt it?
i mean you get a bit of extra damage
Compared to other dashes it’s lackluster tho
:0
Only it’s deflect is what makes it good
but no-one is picking it cause of the damage
What does it take to give ambrosia to the gods? I’ve given them to half of them but I don’t even know how it triggers
Ima get divine strike now and get divine dash later
||certain amount of hearts with them|| @wary heart
It’s all maxed as much as can be
then you might have to accept more boons from them (check out the codex entries for them)
If it’s regarding entries, all complete
If you've reached a locked heart it means you have to fulfill a favour for them
For some Gods it's just get more boons from them, for a few you have to go further in the story. The ones I remember off the top of my head is Ares: ||kill 10,000 enemies (you can check by looking in the well in your bedroom)||
Poseidon: ||Catch 25 fish (including at least 1 legendary), then catch a fish in the same run that you pick up one of his boons||
Hermes: ||Max out his keepsake and speak to him with it equipped||
Aphrodite: ||I'm not sure if you have to either get to full hearts with Dusa, Thanatos and Megaera, or if you have to specifically romance Thanatos and Meg||
Demeter: ||Go further in the story||
Eyy
AND I HAVE A NECTAR THIS TIME
Eyy
how do i learn to play the lyre
Buy it from the contractor and play it a few times between runs
so just keep interacting with it?
Orpheus will comment occasionally signalling that you've gotten better
i hate the spear
same
Have any of the devs mentioned if they were going to keep updating the game in the future or are the updates done?
there's no current plans for further updates
hey guys! i'm thinking of getting hades, i've never been a fan of rogue-like games but something about Hades is just so damn appealing (especially the story) - I have two options, $15 on Epic or $20 on steam, does it matter which platform?
no
A shame because I think the hidden aspect of the spear needs a buff. I like its moveset but the penalty on it is way too severe imo
||Temple of Styx||: You’ll never survive me
Me with spear and Support Fire: very poor choice of words
@hexed shore @deep pivot
https://imgur.com/SC8YqQl
Artemis is my fav goddess
It's already updated?
oh you dont meant content-based updates? most people are asking about that when they ask about updates. as far as bug fixes and adjustments they haven't said. but the last patch notes did say that was the last expected patch for the year so no one can truly say except for the team themselves
not yet, that's just how it works in game right now
Oooh
@narrow hemlock ah I get it, no problem
OH MY LORD MY LUCK
This run I was trying to get Poseidon legendary for the prophecy but im in ||styx|| with one chance to get the legendary
And i got it 
Yeah they rolled out a decently big balance patch recently. 4th spear wasn't much of a sticking point. Though what have you tried on it so far?
Thank you Poseidon very cool
There are some good builds on it, depending on what hammer you get.
Huh I thought they high heat people loved hidden aspect
Hidden aspects in general are high risk high reward and as you put more TB into it the spear gets better
I meant hidden spear
But hidden spear is the worst
It is?
Like I see them talk about hidden spear a lot and they seem to only gave praise for it
I managed to win with the other hidden aspects but I lost at the surface fight with hidden spear
Either that or maybe they enjoy the difficulty increase
It just takes practice like the other hidden aspects
Hidden aspects are in general slower than other aspects
hidden spear and hidden rail dont feel slower
hidden rail def slower to fire
well it does continous damage faster than the normal attack
and the special is faster to hit the ground
Hidden shield prolly moves slower but deletes faster
i think only sword and shield trade damage for speed, bow just feels weird, fists is choppy....... but spear and rail dont seem too bad when talkin bout speed
Bow hits like a truck but it takes a while to charge up attack
yes
Good thing is that by hurting one enemy you hurt a lot of them
No
Also apparently you can do hidden bow special builds by putting Zeus on special and getting a lot of Zeus
i dont remember if you already know what it does before unlocking
it's been so long 😅
You don't know what it does before unlocking
so it is a spoiler, gotchu
ok it's time to go make a mod that makes ME + Curse of Longing work together
Rip
😩
I got my first “bond” 
gg :O
Was it James
Im sure it wont take that many guess to know who its with
cerb
Charon
Artemis
Daddy
Good shade
...
Thanatos 
:OOO
Would never have guessed that ngl
you did the whole shebang before cerby baby???
I can never find the dude at home
Sure but I can't control that
I get really luck with my Than encounters. He usually shows up at Tartarus for me
:o
Thats why Ive been able to talk with him so much
And I always end up talking before gifting so he just decides to go poof
well you only get him after you took some nice damage in the run, are you ok?
D:
im never ok
dusa hug?

Anyways time to go get the last of ||Demeter|| boons
omw with the hug
Look at her dance look at her go
good luck
Unpopular opinion I hate hearing dusa hum in the background, I always go and drive get away so I can idle around in peace at home
at least you havent heard her ||cry||
I think its cute, but it can get annoying Im sure
I dont stick around the house for long so maybe thats why I dont find her as annoying
Thanks!!!
I was so scared that message just fell into the abyss ;-;
@wet frigate god it took me like five runs to get poseidon legendary
Only legendary I haven't gotten is Artemis cause I actively avoid that lol
only gotten the dem legendary so far, really want to try getting the zeus one with a rail build though
How much diamonds does the fishing rod cost?
just one
Ok good
Artemis legendary is hard to get even if you’re doing a cast build
I have three now so I can buy the 2 diamond upgrade
Meanwhile I get Aphrodite legendary all the time
Excuse me? 
Do I hear a sinner
How utterly brazen
I'm sorry it's true, arty looks out for me but I'm not doing a run without aphro ever
Also if I said arty best girl I'd have to explain why I never pick her for trails

im conflicted on best girl, i dislike dem but love her boons way too much
Dem boons are weird to me
I actually find Demeter boons conflict a lot with what I’m trying to do
If you go for dem you need like 3 or 4 of her boons to make any of them work
Unless you get rare crop to land on your main damage dealers
So I'm not a fan of dem
I do like aphro in every single playthrough with every single weapon though
Weak is just too good with ps
And that +attack damage%
She has the highest percentage so ofc lol
Artemis can go higher but hers is more inconsistent
I think aphro and arty are the most versatile gods
And of course, harder to get privileged status on Artemis
And their duo is pretty good too
Is marked Artemis' curse?
chiron + dem special + arctic blast + killing freeze + winter harvest was a fun build
Now that I've beaten ||Hades|| I can honestly say ||his second phase is an absolute joy to fight||
Yeah, but it goes on the other enemy, never directly on the main enemy
Making ps work when you want arty on either attack or special is rough
i had to do a perfect ||second phase|| earlier on my first 8 heat run due to entering it with 14hp and 0 death defiance @brisk trail
haven't felt that much adrenaline in a while
That's insane. I'd have choked that so hard. I finally won with 11 HP left and was literally sweating
I'd have been reduced to a puddle in your situation
scary and impressive
you didnt have the regen duo on you by any chance?
nope
even scarier
Whenever I've gotten regen duo I haven't needed it
I guess it might be beterrwwith stubborn defiance
it would be absolutely fantastic with SD
Regen duo is the only reason I won, let me tank a couple of extra hits I recovered the HP for
it is a nice duo for the start with the anxiety after getting your DDs melted thats true
didn't get any duos or legendaries on that run, having divine dash saved my bacon more times than i care to admit :D
now i'm just "oh i lost 2 DDs, all is fine"
||unless it happened in a secret boss fight then i'm SWEAT and BLOOD||
The regen duo made me realise how much damage I can actually avoid when I you know, focus on not being greedy with my hits
Dark Souls taught me nothing
Imagine not being greedy in fights
couldn't be me
i learned that trying to avoid more hits leads to tanking more damage than necessary; the faster the enemies are down the less damage you take 😎
poseidon really teaches you to just be aggressive from the very first second
Lmao it's a terrible idea though
Have Than's competitions taught you nothing? You must enter the room with 100 health and leave with 35 
And that 35 is after the centaur heart
The most annoying thing to me is losing my acorn to stupid summons
Must beat Than at all costs
Ofc
were you the one deciding to use dusa's face for horrible pretty good jokes @astral swift ?
Me
Yup. Run in and swing wildly like a madman. Can't go wrong.
👀
I can't help but use it like that
it's so... 
Most annoying thing for me is dashing, getting hit by a circle attack, and the game slowing down enough to see me mid-dash during the hit animation
i agree egg but now i am sad
I think 90% of my give ups are because I forgot to switch out acorn before starting tarturus
i hoped the person i remembered from using that were you
Oh 
cause you're doing great dear
My b next time I'll go back in time and type it out first
take my nectar and dusa reactions
Wow okay I see how it is cat
what
Myth I must take your place
she used the dusa face perfectly
It's fine I get it
Omg
LETS GO
I am so annoyed by Theseus and Arsterius it’s not even funny. I keep getting killed by them every. Single. Run
I wanna finish my first run with the bow dammit
That new announcement though 🥺
Whenever I hear him yell ||BULL HORN|| i get a mini heart attack
love their interactions afterwards
kinda wish the bull would fight on my side for once
Guys I just wanna know, does ||aspect of Hera|| use the cast you get from an Olympian?
Let’s just say I get Dionysus cast and I load bloodstone into my bow
Does my bow stun enemies now?
I wanna know before I waste titan blood on it
Yes, it does what the cast would do normally but where the bow shot hits
It's how I was able to beat my first bow run cause I had aprodites cast
