#h1-discussion

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atomic seal
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it would be pretty hard to surpass hades ngl, the game felt like they learn their mistake from each game they made and combine all best parts

gaunt valley
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yea they do feel kinda bastioney

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i still like transistor the best probably

atomic seal
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would be fun to see where they go from here

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transistor story was good /o/

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took me two play through to understand it

placid spindle
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Is darren still the best player in the supergiant office

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Like Greg said in the reaction video to the speedrun

atomic seal
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I mean he is zag indeed zaglol

placid spindle
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Lmao

tender sapphire
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DAMN i played aspect of rama for the first time now... i fell in love, now i can't decide wich one is the best xD

hasty hinge
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Hey, each of those small rooms in the end count as one encounter right?

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I just got Epic Rare Crop in Elysium, and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it.

manic bobcat
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yup

hasty hinge
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Perf. Gonna risk it then

gaunt valley
keen osprey
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Can anyone give me an advice how to beat hades ? I did it once like 30 tries ago, I can get to him in almost all of my runs, but I die, no matter what... I'm completely aware of his mechanics but simply can't avoid getting hit... I feel like that's it, I suck, period...

keen cargo
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Just keep on practicing his timings shadesmile

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Think of it as sort of a rhythm game

distant night
rustic valve
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Don't forget God Mode

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it can really help with that

distant night
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not the first time

rustic valve
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no, but over time

distant night
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since it's "only" 20%

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over time just training would help too

rustic valve
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and I feel like a lot of people will have forgotten about it or missed it by the time they might need it

keen osprey
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Artemis: I think anxiety, I jump around like crazy still getting hit

narrow hemlock
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hey guys remember the final boss is a spoiler in this channel 😊

distant night
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which weapon do you usually use?

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can you like, not?

keen osprey
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whichever has the darkness boon, but I'm starting to feel like it's kinda pointless after I have nothing to spend darkness upon

distant night
rustic valve
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@chilly stump sorry, you're the only one I know of, but could you please take care of the troll in here?

keen cargo
hasty hinge
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Where are the mods?

distant night
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probably also confused as to why

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just stunned 😂

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brother why even do it

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omfg

keen osprey
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guys, don't you know the first rule of the internet? Don't feed the troll

distant night
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uhm @tepid yacht help

keen osprey
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thanks for the advices tho

keen cargo
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@keen osprey i used to dash around like crazy too, then i tried to take a breather and play slow and steady, worked for me it did

distant night
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i-

hasty hinge
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@signal spoke ?

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@hexed smelt ?

distant night
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anyways @keen osprey find the weapon you're most comfortable with and maybe go for a safe build (athena, artemis, dio on the heals)

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i-

brisk trail
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that's a troll, ignore him

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he feeds off reactions

hasty hinge
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This isn't funny, and I don't want to keep seeing it

keen cargo
tepid yacht
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Hi, so sorry about that. We've handled the situation.

brisk trail
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dunno why people do pathetic stuff for attention

distant night
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this isnt funny and trying to get a mod in is probably the best reaction to thid:)))

brisk trail
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like we get it, you're edgy haha

gaunt valley
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calmly asking for a mod to ban someone is the best reaction

distant night
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^

gaunt valley
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they want people to get upset

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not be like

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oh

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ban this dude

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and move on

brisk trail
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fair

distant night
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the mods our greatest saviours are there :)

rustic valve
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Yeah, it'd just be nice if I didn't have to know who the mods are - isn't there a pingable mod role or something?

distant night
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i think that would be abused

rustic valve
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Because I just pinged the only SGG employee I knew about^^'

distant night
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i mean you see the mods to the right in purple`?

gaunt valley
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i just scrolled up and pinged the first mod i saw

rustic valve
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oh good, I'm just a bit silly

distant night
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huh your pfp has glasses tho, time to get new ones?

rustic valve
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🤦‍♂️ thanks, I'll do that too next time xD

gaunt valley
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thought it would be better to ping someone that was recently in chat

distant night
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😂

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that actually makes more sense

hexed smelt
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Purple names are mods, if you're having issues in a channel and we don't appear to have noticed them please feel free to ping someone

distant night
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sry if i disturbed the only mod whose name i kinda know because of last time ;-;

hexed smelt
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This is literally what we're here for, please don't feel bad for 'disturbing' us ^^

distant night
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i know but still ;-;

compact pollen
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It's not outlined in Rules not to discuss it, but I'm curious, are there any discord servers for mod[ification] discussion?

rustic valve
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Cool, then I know what to do best next time and I'm glad it got handled fast.

keen cargo
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Cheers mods

rustic valve
compact pollen
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arigato

distant night
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maybe add that kind of typing to the Dyno eraser

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ngl tho cursive letters are pretty

brisk trail
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hey that’s a good idea!

distant night
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even if the message was not

brisk trail
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but for now let’s remain on topic

rustic valve
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They're also utterly inaccessible, because they're not a font

gaunt valley
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hades is kool amirite

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best dad

distant night
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😂

rustic valve
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So please don't actually use them outside the maths context they're meant for 🙂

distant night
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smooth Chai

keen cargo
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They also suck for people who uses screen readers

rustic valve
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That's what I meant, yeah 🙂

distant night
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on one hand i'm sad that hades got depicted as a bad father cause of how soft he actually is for everybody including the "bastard" kids of persephone
on the other, yes hades is kool

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maybe too much ||cape||

gaunt valley
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hades is actually probably the best husband and father of the greek gods

olive wind
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awit what

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what happened

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i mean yeah, hades is probably the best dad out of all of them

hasty hinge
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(in this game)

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(In the actual myths, he was kinda... oof)

olive wind
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yeah

gaunt valley
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i never said he was good

hasty hinge
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Altho, I guess, if you compare to Zeus....

gaunt valley
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but hes probably the best in the myths too

winter harbor
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I only know of one or two times he maybe cheated on persephone

olive wind
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i dont know a ton about greek myths but that seems to be a pattern

hasty hinge
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But I don't remember Poseidon being all that bad

gaunt valley
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the bar for best husband and father is very very low

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in the greek pantheon

winter harbor
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They got turned into mint and some kind of tree on the banks of the styx

olive wind
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there is no bar

hasty hinge
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I mean in the myths ||he kidnapped Persephone||

winter harbor
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So yeah, he's one of the more loyal greek gods

distant night
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the mint thing happened before persephone tho in some versions

gaunt valley
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@hasty hinge thats literally one of the most tame things a greek god has done for love

distant night
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best hubby = hades
saddest hubby = hephaestos

winter harbor
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I heard that you could interpret as what people did to court their wives back in ancient greek times, so he was just following society

distant night
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yes :c

winter harbor
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by like kidnapping her

distant night
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confused babe :c

gaunt valley
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also i believe zeus was actually the one that suggested and planned it

olive wind
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honestly hephestus (however you spell it idk. there might be an A somewhere) deserved better

olive wind
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i mean no disrespect intended to the others but

gaunt valley
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hephestus did deserve better

tender sapphire
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did anyone anytime beat tanatos completely ? like he made 0 kills?

distant night
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well you would expect the child of two siblings to be disfigured; but that he got hate for that, tried to marry love to get any kind of love in his life but failing and getting cheated on more times than hera....

olive wind
brisk trail
olive wind
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go on

winter harbor
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Plus you get a special title on the victory screen

olive wind
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whats his reaction im curious

distant night
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:)

brisk trail
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dont wanna spoil the surprise cz_shush

olive wind
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oh you do?

brisk trail
olive wind
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no no i doubt i'll be able to do that lmao, go ahead

brisk trail
distant night
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anyways it's pretty easy to get if you focussed on damage or even get poseidon to knock enemies out of than's hitting areas

olive wind
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pog

distant night
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than is a babe :c

olive wind
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yeah

tender sapphire
distant night
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i'm kinda sorry for him to have gotten nyx as mother after what she said about hypnos 😭

gaunt valley
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same but for 4

olive wind
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wasnt there an achievement for beating him by 15?

gaunt valley
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yep

brisk trail
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i guess it depends on the ratio

distant night
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mother-nyx is respected but also :c cold :c

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gotta love the amount of dionysus simps on this server btw, finally found my own ✊ 😔

olive wind
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truly ✊😔

gaunt valley
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artemis best girl

distant night
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evidently same

brisk trail
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dionysus owned my heart ever since he was added to the game

cursive halo
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Dionysus simps?

olive wind
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yes

distant night
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i wonder if sgg ever envisioned ||artemis and callisto|| to be more than friends or if ||artemis has somehting deeper than platonic adoration for zag according to her dialogue when you get the artemis-aphro duo||

brisk trail
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u called?

cursive halo
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You mean maenads

tulip stone
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Artemis has my favorite boons i'd say

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her or Ares

distant night
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duo-boons wise artemis really takes the crown

olive wind
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anyway forgive me if i sound shallow but aphrodite? hell yeah

distant night
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😂

tender sapphire
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any of you guys like to play boonless? like using sisifo trinket? xD

distant night
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just ignore her breakig hephaestus' heart with everything she does and simp for love herself cause love

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understandable tho :)

gaunt valley
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aphro is hot
but artemis is best for many other reasons

olive wind
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understandable

cursive halo
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I mean the trojan war was kinda her fault, but those boons man

gaunt valley
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also shes cute af

olive wind
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yes artemis is also great

distant night
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what i dont like about aphro is her boon sounds are disgusting

olive wind
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what, the ✨ shiny ✨ ?

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or am i missing osmething

distant night
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O.O

brisk trail
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let’s not go there cz_shush

distant night
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sry about soemthing i said?

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okidoki shadeohboy

winter harbor
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Nah, the Trojan war was Eris’ fault

olive wind
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:shark12:

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wait wh

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where

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:shark12:

winter harbor
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Because she hated that she wasn’t invited to something

distant night
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yea

cursive halo
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Debateble but not entirly wrong

distant night
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and she got an apple of all things for the prettiest

olive wind
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apples taste good :pensive_cowboy:

cursive halo
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But i mean

distant night
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totally not reminding everybody that women and apples do the worst to humankind

olive wind
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oh gods is the nitro wearing off

cursive halo
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Of all the beutiful ladies she could ve picked

winter harbor
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Go pick Persephone

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That way, when the other goddesses want to kill you, you’re guaranteed a relatively ok afterlife

distant night
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persephone wouldnt have cared for something like that tho

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sadsad

winter harbor
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Athena, the goddess of wisdom, competing in a beauty contest against the goddess of love

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Not very wise of her

distant night
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true but she got the pride of her father

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else you could argue that her taking part of any of the trial of gods in hades werent that wise either :) or getting mad at not getting picked

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ahh family

rustic valve
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ohhh boy

olive wind
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on the topic of trial of the gods

winter harbor
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Arachne and Medusa should form a “I hate Athena” club

rustic valve
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chaos +90% special on eris

distant night
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entirely true

rustic valve
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but -4 health on every attack

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it's dumb

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it's gonna be so slow

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especially right before boss 3

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but it's gonna be so good

olive wind
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i avoid those like the damn plague jfc. partially because i dont want people to be mad at me to a frankly concerning extent

distant night
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i wonder how it was "kind" of athena that while cursing medusa she also wouldnt let any females enter the temple???

rustic valve
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(rocket bomb; but also flurry fire - so all the pain)

olive wind
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like i'm not involving myself in that family drama

distant night
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trials make sense, gods like to boast and the still live with each other

winter harbor
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Yeah, Medusa was not treated kindly

olive wind
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yeah

winter harbor
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I think it wasn’t even consensual, what Poseidon did to her

distant night
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medusa with the poseidon/athena origin had just the worst life ever

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nope

olive wind
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no yeah i dont think it was

rustic valve
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decided to roll it and finally got DEFIANCE WHAT

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yesss

distant night
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always non-con, she tried to seek help at athenas tmeple, poseidon got to her, athena was mad(????????) and she got cursed

winter harbor
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But later writers try to spin it as Athena trying to protect Medusa because she can’t exactly get back at Poseidon

distant night
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welll

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it was her temple

tender sapphire
distant night
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she couldve just closed it for any males since poseidon is actually male

tender sapphire
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i'm like, 30 runs using the egg and the mirro buff to legendary boons and nothing

distant night
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medusa wouldve been the best priestess ever

rustic valve
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So... it can take time

cursive halo
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Thats why sgg made her best girl in the game

distant night
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maid-dusa being medusa is only half canon or even less than that i'd say

cursive halo
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Wut

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She s only half a maid in the myths?

distant night
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😂

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whatever you say buckeroo :)

winter harbor
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We don’t know what she works as but a Medusa head works for the house of hades in the myths

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Which is hilarious in the context of the game

opaque nexus
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Hades any heat 1.0 has more runners on speedrun.com than mario 64 120 star

distant night
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happy speedy running everybody

tender sapphire
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i think i never regreted a anvil so much, i'm playing with the sword using ||aspect of arthur|| and got the cursed cut ....

distant night
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spoiler the name please but do you not like cursed slash?

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i mean i assume so but like, why?

tender sapphire
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I LOVE IT... BUT NOT in using ||aspect of arthur|| ¬¬

distant night
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spoiler the name

tender sapphire
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i don't know how to do that xd sorry

distant night
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|| on both sides of the word

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it's ok, happens to everybody

gaunt valley
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for future reference
just say hidden sword

distant night
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or that ^

gaunt valley
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i prefer it because its impossible to spoil people by saying it

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but if you know you know

tender sapphire
opaque nexus
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OK I CAN TALK AGAIN

distant night
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but else, the hidden sword gives you the most health to start out with, so you still have almost the most help possible 🤔

opaque nexus
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ok so here's the ss of the amount of hades runners

distant night
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welcome back speedy boi!

opaque nexus
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120 star only has 330

gaunt valley
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hidden sword + athena attack is amazing

distant night
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aphro is also nice

gaunt valley
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||but the aura slows projectiles so the reflect works better||

distant night
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anyways with the slow hits, agree havent thought of that as much of an issue tho

tender sapphire
distant night
tender sapphire
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i never tried that

gaunt valley
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its feels very nice to hit a large swarm of the balls in elysium

distant night
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i also didnt say that athena sucks, just that aphro is also very nice since the hidden aspect has huge damage and aphro gives a huge extra %

gaunt valley
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i feel like i might have been underestamating aphro
i dont really like their boons

distant night
opaque nexus
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highest raw damage multiplier in the game

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on attack and special

tender sapphire
distant night
opaque nexus
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weak is a good defensive status

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aphro's tier 2 boons aren't the best but I guess it's for balance reasons

distant night
distant night
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taking aphro boons after getting used to athena is very weird
i still hate it but accept that aphro is a strong girl

tender sapphire
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i had 124 hp even with the curse, had many hearts on the way i think this is was saved me xD

distant night
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310 max hp without cursed slash? nice :O

rustic valve
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I've unlocked all the songs I can, but two are still ??? in the list - any clue how I can unlock those?

distant night
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which of these do you not have: ||hymn to zagreus||, ||the unseen ones||, ||lament of orpheus||, ||Final Expense (Payback)||, ||good riddance||?

rustic valve
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||Unseen Ones|| - which thanks, that probably means EM4, huh? finally gotta bite that bullet.

distant night
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yes

rustic valve
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But also ||Good Riddance||, huh.

distant night
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you need to ||have had the conversation with eurydice that she gives you the song and bought the lyre||

tender sapphire
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wich aspect of the rail do you guys think is the best? i'm unsure about zagreus or the hidden one

distant night
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personally hidden or eris

rustic valve
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||I have the Lyre, and it's starting to sound okay when I "Play?" it. But I haven't had the convo with Eurydice or finished that Prophecy.|| Thanks for the tips!

distant night
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sure thing!

tender sapphire
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the hidden rail + special atk of zeus is a good thing xD it's like a normal bomb but better in my view

distant night
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any rail special works with anything but dio imo

tender sapphire
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dio, demeter, athena

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MAYBE the hidden rail works well with athena

distant night
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ah right demeter stacks like dio, then yeah no

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athena is ok on rocket bomb i think

tender sapphire
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never tried

distant night
waxen juniper
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Alright: time to go from 4 heat to 16 heat. Wish me luck 😆

distant night
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👀

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chose wise, young one

tender sapphire
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unsure what to pick here, arthemis or demeter? i'm using the hidden aspect of the rail wich one would be best to put on the main atk? the run is pretty early

distant night
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demeter

tender sapphire
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on the special i'm using zeus, the aspect that the bomb turn itself on a trap is so good

distant night
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artemis would just do30 damage once

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better to have artemis on the special imo

tender sapphire
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yeah that would be a good ideia, but i like zeus too

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but bah, demeter didn't help, she didn't gave me the atk boon

distant night
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zeus has really nice main boons

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not even after reroll or do you not have access to that yet? D:

tender sapphire
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not even after reroll

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my luck was that the next room was her boon toon, and i had to reroll again to get it xD

distant night
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oh damn she really didnt want to give you that smexy attack boon 👀

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btw question for le mods: is demeter a spoiler?

gaunt valley
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i love art call

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its so good

waxen juniper
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... I'm not really sure how I feel about shield of chaos yet :/

tender sapphire
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its good, not the best, but good

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i much prefer the zeus, or the hidden one

gaunt valley
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just shredded the last half of the final bosses healthbar with a greater art call

waxen juniper
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I don't even know how to do chaos well. Also, I HATE the pact that makes you have less options for boons

distant night
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it's so good ;-;

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honestly who doesnt

quiet gull
gaunt valley
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ri?

distant night
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RI - Routine Inspection

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you lose your mirror aspects

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UC(underworld customs) is also scary if you only had a great tartarus

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in asphodel i dont feel bad for yeeting hermes but tartarus is really important for later on build making

gaunt valley
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ah yea

rustic valve
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There was a discussion here recently about the Narrator, I think. But the game does eventually tell you who it is.

carmine ravine
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yes

rustic valve
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At least, if I didn't misunderstand the death quote I got.

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Okay, cool

carmine ravine
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u can buy a statue of him in the house

rustic valve
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ah, no, I misunderstood the quote because I was still distracted by beating EM4.

quiet gull
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You dont get directly told about the narrator, no. But the bust strongly implies it

void vigil
distant night
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so satisfying ;-;

gaunt valley
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oo

brisk trail
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what's your favorite theme, the one that you feel was worth it?

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I'm not feeling any of them as necessary right now.

nocturne ginkgo
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Hey I'm trying to find the picture with the baby chars and cerb but I can't seem to find it online does anyone have it and feel like posting it?

nocturne ginkgo
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THANK YOU

distant night
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sure thing :)

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that pic is awfully cute and i couldnt deny anyone from seeing it

nocturne ginkgo
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I've been looking for it for a few hours online and I just couldn't seem to find the right keyword to search for it lol

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You are the mvp!

distant night
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happy to help!

nocturne ginkgo
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Hades yeah

waxen juniper
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So update: 16 heat is painful 😫

nocturne ginkgo
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Good luck!

distant night
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may the gods grant you a swift run

dim nest
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who's everyone's favorite god to use greater call with

distant night
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artemis

dim nest
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I don't mean as an ability I'm talking about voicelines

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should've specified

distant night
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artemis anyways

indigo flint
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so no spoilers please but how many times do you have to beat the final boss until no more additions to the story happen?

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like when does it start looping kinda

distant night
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main story?

indigo flint
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yeah

nocturne ginkgo
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I think 10?

distant night
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depends on how fast you are at building relationships with the gods

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the first end comes with ||10|| victories

indigo flint
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aight cool

distant night
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the ||epilogue|| can take a long long time

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and after wards there is still more

indigo flint
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||what about the feast ending||

distant night
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i have over 150 runs and have yet to get intense looping 😂

indigo flint
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wow

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this game is really well developed

distant night
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like i know i have side plots done so people like achilles and orpheus arent talkactive

nocturne ginkgo
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I've played way too many hours and I am just now starting to hear like 3 repeated lines

distant night
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but else???

nocturne ginkgo
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but every run theres still so many new lines and events playing

distant night
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than is so intriguing

indigo flint
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cool

distant night
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and the gods react to so much

indigo flint
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yeah

nocturne ginkgo
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There are so many conditional lines

indigo flint
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its very interactive

nocturne ginkgo
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and I love it so much

distant night
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legit before you even get to 100% looping dialogue you might start like 3 new runs

waxen juniper
nocturne ginkgo
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woops

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didn't spoiler right

waxen juniper
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Nice spoiler xp

nocturne ginkgo
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spoiler tags are hard man

distant night
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spoiler tags are ||w|| ||o|| ||n|| ||k|| ||y||

nocturne ginkgo
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so its just || right?

distant night
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yes

waxen juniper
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On both sides

nocturne ginkgo
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what I read said just do | on both sides lmao

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my favorite conditional line is ||if you bring the yarn of ariadne to the theseus fight he comments on it|| and thats just so cool that just random stuff can bring up so many voice lines

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this game better win everything tonight lmao

waxen juniper
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You did it!

distant night
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he brings up so many lines whenever ||you bring out the yarn|| o.o have yet to exhaust him tlaking about it

nocturne ginkgo
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wait really? I've only ever had it come up once

past arch
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oh my gosh I need to do it more now!

nocturne ginkgo
#

cause its so random for it to line up ya know

#

does ||dio|| also have a reaction with it?

distant night
#

the ping from the announcements made my heart legit drop

nocturne ginkgo
#

same

gaunt valley
#

so who do you think winds goty
my bet is the last of us
but sg deserves it more tbh

distant night
#

ofc it'll be tlou2

past arch
#

The one I feel strongest about Hades winning is music :3

twilit stone
#

Inb4 Hades dusa

past arch
#

Best indie game, 100%, but best music

distant night
#

even tho most of the people hated it it still is the most recognizeable of all the games

#

music and indie hopefully

gaunt valley
#

hades definitely wins music

past arch
#

I know most people liked TLOU2 so it might be community bias

gaunt valley
#

transistor should have won music too

past arch
#

but music and best indie game 1000000%

gaunt valley
#

but they werent high profile enough then

past arch
#

I voted Hades for every single one tho :3

brisk trail
#

game awards

gaunt valley
#

hades will easily carry the steam game awards tho

brisk trail
#

best indie game is obv hades

#

goty nope tho

nocturne ginkgo
#

ok but hear me out

#

ZAG for smash

past arch
#

I think with major news outlets giving Hades a lot of coverage it has a great chance!

#

One hopes it wins the largest number of categories anyway ;3

brisk trail
#

doom eternal music is also nice

nocturne ginkgo
#

zag for smash with the indie music track too for in the blood

#

I'm just saying

gaunt valley
#

doom eternal does have good music too
but doom already won

compact pollen
#

mood eternal 😔

split cedar
#

Dusa for smash

distant night
#

platonic smash

compact pollen
#

plutonic smash

distant night
#

😂

frozen roost
#

so confused because hades deserves that sound award

gaunt valley
#

confused by what

waxen juniper
#

Supergiant usually has fantastic music

vocal remnant
#

Raji not winning best debut is rigory, trickery, and straight up tomfoolery

waxen juniper
#

What won? Also, can you answer me in general please?

vocal remnant
#

Ah true, not the right channel xD

brisk pivot
#

with the announcements today are we getting cross save? Like for real its one of the biggest reasons i bought two copies i dont feel like restarting on the pc

tepid yacht
#

unless they announce otherwise, there's info on cross save in #hades-faq

dry veldt
#

Waitaminute hades got nominated for GOTY? Awesome

void ginkgo
winter harbor
#

I think the Game Awards are streaming rn

#

But it remains to be seen what awards Hades will get

#

And Hades is guaranteed to get at least best indie imo

quiet gull
#

Well, if Hades is ever gonna get DLC, this will be the time to announce it

narrow hemlock
#

doubtful, theyre gearing up to take a break iirc

sinful pine
#

Sgg games have always been complete content wise on launch

quiet gull
maiden ridge
#

Anyone else laugh at that game awards clip just now? Showing using Poseidon’s call on the very first room 🤣🤣🤣

alpine yarrow
#

shinjichair lost maybe 3 or 4 hits away from clearning my first em4 run

alpine yarrow
#

at least if i can get that close with fists i know i can probably clear if i do it with the shield

harsh sky
#

Hope that hades will win

brisk trail
#

YO.

flat summit
#

WE WON

barren ocean
#

BEST ACTION GAME GAME AWARDS

oak ridge
#

I GHASPED

barren ocean
#

HELL YEA

inland imp
#

YaAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

brisk trail
#

DID ANYONE ELSE JUST SEE THAT?

flat summit
#

POGGERS

oak ridge
#

SO LOUD

azure frost
#

LETS GO!

inland imp
#

POGGIES DUUDESSSSSSSS

barren ocean
#

LETS GOOOO

oak ridge
#

AAAAAAA

harsh sky
#

nidodczbmfun ivczovnizeojpefovozefvnoe,fnvzeof

sage tartan
#

Congrats Hades!

barren ocean
#

POGGERS

true gyro
#

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

harsh sky
#

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

oak ridge
#

CONGRATS HADES

forest ocean
#

GRATZ!!!

sick turret
#

Congrats

tough pivot
#

best action

vapid lava
#

POGGERSS!!

tough pivot
#

easy clap

silver spire
#

CONGRATS!!!!

gray plank
#

ayyyy

oak ridge
#

shouldve won art but THIS IS HUGE

lilac sky
#

GG

harsh sky
#

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

silver spire
#

so well deserved

inland imp
#

Shoulda got art too but STILL EZ CLAP

harsh sky
#

YEEEEEES

flint rune
#

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

gray plank
#

tHAT'S AWESOME!

tight needle
#

WOOOHOOO! WELL DESERVED!

gaunt valley
#

so what have we won so far?

fresh arch
#

'SGOOOOO

harsh sky
#

HADES HADES HADES

tribal oriole
#

🎉🎉🎉

iron coyote
#

YEAHHHH

exotic girder
#

POG

sacred harbor
#

YES CONGRATS YOU ALL

marble belfry
#

WOOOT

full nexus
#

HADES

grim agate
#

Congrats!!!!

dusky estuary
#

Woooo!

harsh sky
#

HADEEEEEEESSS

safe jolt
#

Congratulations

stray jay
#

LEEET'S GOOOOO

tribal oriole
iron coyote
#

W OO T

tough pivot
#

when is GOTY?

gaunt valley
#

and who won art?

silk cosmos
#

Letttt gopoooooooo

true gyro
#

LET'S GOOOOOO

silver spire
#

Supergiant just beat a lot of AAA studios!!!! That is incredible!!!!

tight needle
#

Best Action Game!

willow mural
#

GRATS WOOO

carmine escarp
#

woot woot congrats guys

harsh sky
#

ghost

tight needle
dusky estuary
#

BLOOD AND DARKNESS!

leaden kindle
#

congrats

sand flame
#

wooOO

tribal oriole
#

Congratulations!!!!!

safe jolt
#

Congratulations Supergiant!!!!

knotty canyon
#

CONGRATS!!!

winter jay
#

BEST ACTION GAME!! WOOT WOOT CONGRATS SUPERGIANT!!

winter harbor
#

Congrats!

steep wasp
#

WE GOT THERE

steady crane
#

OH YEAAAAH

knotty canyon
#

YAY! WELL DESERVED!

manic sky
#

congrats!

winter harbor
#

What about best indie?

tired vale
#

congrats!!!!!!

gaunt valley
#

thats fair tsushima was beautiful

harsh sky
#

IN THE NAME OF HADES

full nexus
#

It will be GOTY too

thick atlas
#

congrats

kind ingot
#

CONGRATS!!!!

barren ocean
#

GRATZ SUPERGIANT TEAM

thick atlas
#

has an indie game every won goty?

fiery yew
#

GG

sleek galleon
#

LETS GOOOOOOO SGG!

serene mesa
#

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

winter harbor
#

Celeste got close but didn't win

urban pier
#

CONGRATS

teal crest
#

Congratulations for the award!!!

winter harbor
#

Similar as Hollow Knight

full nexus
inland imp
sullen marsh
#

WE WON ONE BOYS

rose nexus
#

CONGRATS !!!!

teal crest
#

@sullen marsh two actually

fierce vessel
#

YEAH

harsh sky
#

LETS GOOOO

sullen marsh
#

@teal crest NICE

rigid turtle
#

CONGRATS!!!

potent egret
#

WOOHOOOOOO!!! CONGRATULATIONS GUYS!!!

steady crane
#

THIS GAME DESERVED IT THO

gaunt valley
#

a tiny indie studio named cdpr won a couple years ago

#

/s

harsh sky
#

I love how best action game is less important than voice actor no video conf

uneven dove
#

LET'S GO THEY DESERVE IT

winter harbor
#

Which is why everyone and their mom preordered Cyberpunk 2077

paper steppe
#

Wahoo congratulations

zealous hedge
#

WOOO

gaunt valley
#

what won voice acting?

harsh sky
#

Abby actor

remote forge
#

Geoff did Hades dirty. Imagine brushing through those awards that fast.

remote forge
#

I guess they had to get back to the paid promotional time.

prisma wind
#

Hey all, I'm glad you're excited about TGA! I invite you to take the discussion to #video-games with the rest of us

midnight bay
#

LET'S GO WE BEAT DOOM

remote forge
#

Or: they didn't go on video because they'll do that for a bigger award 😉

alpine yarrow
#

LETS GOOO

potent egret
#

hades deserved best acting :

brisk trail
#

I am at run 16 and died in Asphodel again

#

is this considered bad

brazen sky
#

congrats supergiant!!

fiery socket
#

CONGRATS!! 🎉 🎉 🎉

prisma wind
long turtle
#

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO

brisk trail
#

CONGRATS

robust socket
#

YEAH CONGRATSD

grave sphinx
#

Deserved more awards

#

Smh smh

tired hull
#

🎊 Supergiant congrats!!! 🎊

waxen juniper
#

The fact that Hades had an outreach that got them nominated is already a huge milestone for supergiant games.
Hades is probably their most popular/known game.

long turtle
#

to be fair I feel like Bastion has reached the status where even people who haven't played it know it and give it credit

#

kinda like people do with classic movies and stuff sometimes

oak wind
#

Congrats, you guys!

cosmic spoke
#

Wait, did Hades not win best music?

blazing crypt
#

Best action gaaaaaaaammmmeeeeee

cosmic spoke
#

shadesmile YEAH! LETS GOOOOO!

brisk trail
#

final fantasy won for music

past pollen
#

what did hades win

glacial oyster
#

Best Action game

brisk trail
#

so far best action game !

past pollen
#

hell ya

swift ginkgo
past pollen
#

which ff

#

shadowbringers?

swift ginkgo
#

Ff7 remake

past pollen
#

o

tepid yacht
#

(don't forget to keep non-hades game awards talk in #video-games!)

brisk trail
#

everyone thought hades was going to win art direction as well which means it wins in twitch’s heart ❤️

tepid yacht
#

all good! shadesmile

brazen sky
#

ghosts of tsushima definitely deserves it too though

safe jolt
#

Another nomenie

brazen sky
#

gorgeous looking game

zealous hedge
#

riiiip

sweet basin
#

Rigged BS

safe jolt
#

🤣

smoky rune
#

awwwww damn Greg - too bad

sweet basin
#

Greg you are above all of these fake awards

iron coyote
#

Ah oof mega sad

silk cosmos
#

Man Hades was so much better shadegrief

sweet basin
#

Sorry you got mega cheated out of that one Greg

potent egret
#

best narrative DAT STEAL

sweet basin
#

How many people refunded Hades in comparison? That'll say it all

grave sphinx
#

Hades deserved better

sweet basin
#

:)

potent egret
#

then they cry cause people dont take them as serious awards 🙄

sweet basin
#

lmao

smoky rune
#

no one takes awards shows seriously in general

brisk trail
#

honestly I'm just surprised it didn't win art direction/soundtrack, yet it won best action

sweet basin
#

Maybe if they didn't make it so woke then it would've been a good game. Let alone the entire awards.... WAY too much SJW energy

brisk trail
#

I'm really happy it got an award though, it deserves it so much

smoky rune
#

Hades won best action?

sweet basin
#

Yeet

brisk trail
#

yeee

sweet basin
#

at least

brisk trail
#

against doom no less, kinda wild

sweet basin
#

Yeah that was cool

smoky rune
#

Good! It has some of the best moment-to-moment combat

still raptor
#

GG y'all. Well-deserved!

brisk trail
sweet basin
#

The awards aren't over but yeah Ghost is gonna win seeing the stats

potent egret
#

GoT or Hades have a way better story than TLOU2

sweet basin
#

I didn't care for that game tho

brisk trail
#

yeah can't really be salty about ghosts winning that tbh, it's also a great game and it's nice to see new IPs doing well

brazen sky
#

ghosts is gorgeous

sweet basin
#

I guess

prisma wind
livid cargo
#

Hades probably also has best indie game in the bag

brazen sky
#

hades definitely robbed for best narrative tho

smoky rune
#

havent played the other games, so I can't compare

#

but on its own...the narrative of Hades is one of few games in living memory with such a sophisticated narrative

#

and then to have that anrrativve weaved into mechanics...man

sweet basin
#

I nominated Hades on pretty much every category it was on if I'm gonna be honest.

smoky rune
#

Me too...but again, I didn't really play any of the others

sweet basin
#

Same

light knot
#

TLOU 2 winning the best narrative is a joke in itself tbh

plush citrus
#

i knew it would win best narrative, even though like objectively speaking it has the worst narrative
who doesnt love awards nights

#

(also oops forgot i was in the hades discussion thread and not the #video-games one, sorry)

peak wave
#

congrats to the team!!! hades is goty in my heart i hope it wins still

hollow hearth
#

did hades get GOTY?

prisma wind
#

Haven't gotten that far yet

hollow hearth
#

oh okay

summer geyser
#

I always forget to use my calls

#

Does anyone actually like the rail

#

I hate using it :(

flat summit
#

BEST INDIE GAME

#

WE WON IT

oak ridge
#

YEAHHH

iron coyote
#

YEAH

oak ridge
#

ANOTHER WINNNN

barren ocean
#

BEST INDIE GAME

inland imp
#

CONGRATS AGAIN!!

gray plank
#

YES

willow mural
#

Woop woop!

coral vigil
#

HELL YESS

sullen marsh
#

WE GOT ANOTHER ONE

inland imp
azure frost
#

Congrats SSG!

barren ocean
#

LETS GOOOOOO

blazing crypt
#

BEST INDIEEEE

fathom sentinel
#

YOOOOO

iron coyote
#

BEST INDIE GAME!

fathom sentinel
#

LETS GOOOOOOO

pliant torrent
#

yes

raw lantern
#

YAYY

oak ridge
#

SUPER GIANT YEAR

brazen sky
#

BEST INDIE HECK YES

inland imp
#

YEEEESSSSS

safe jolt
#

Yeah

earnest coral
#

hades be winning over and over again

#

yaaaay 😄

elder aspen
#

Yess

rose nexus
#

CONGRATSS

green zinc
#

WOOOOOO

tribal oriole
#

CONGRATULATIONS

sweet basin
#

EYYYYYY

fierce vessel
#

Hades one three!

smoky rune
#

HADEEEEES!

safe jolt
#

Not a surprise

fathom sentinel
vale island
#

YEAAAAAAAAAAA

tight needle
#

Best Indie game win! Congrats! Definitely worth!!!!

wicked urchin
#

BEST INDIE

tribal oriole
still raptor
#

AYYY

earnest coral
#

amazing

modest girder
#

HELL YESSSSS

grim agate
#

Congrats again!!!!

prisma pelican
#

CONGRATSSS

sweet basin
#

POGGERS!

tribal oriole
#

🎉🎉🎉

safe jolt
pastel swift
#

CONGRATS!

blazing crypt
#

BEST INDIEEEEEEEEE

still raptor
#

LET"S GO!

sacred harbor
#

omg

gilded warren
#

CONGRATS SG

sacred harbor
#

another one

vale island
#

WOOOHOOO

tawdry geyser
#

HECK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHH

sacred harbor
#

CONGRATS GUYS

fathom sentinel
#

CONGRATS GUYS!!!

smoky rune
#

Hades Audio design didn't get nominated? Hello Eurydice??

versed sonnet
#

YOOO

still raptor
#

GG

lavish skiff
#

WE GOT ONE

versed sonnet
#

CONGRATS

blazing crypt
#

WOOOOOOOOOOO TWO AWARDS

fiery leaf
#

BEST INDIE

rigid turtle
#

yaaay!! congrats again!!!

fiery leaf
#

CONGRATS

versed sonnet
#

YOU DID IT

lavish skiff
#

LETS GO

elder aspen
#

I have no idea how last of us won best narrative. Its a basic revenge plot

fathom sentinel
#

WELL DESERVED

knotty canyon
#

GGGGGG

blazing crypt
#

WOOOOOOO

knotty canyon
#

BEST INDIE GAME

abstract fable
#

HADES FTW

iron coyote
blazing crypt
#

BEST INDIEEEEEEEEEE

tired hull
#

ay congrats again Supergiant! 🎊

toxic root
#

WOOOOOO

blazing crypt
toxic root
#

LETS GOOO

safe jolt
#

2 awards tonight zagluv

fiery socket
#

YEAH CONGRATS!!!!

toxic root
#

I LOVE YOU GUYS

knotty canyon
blazing crypt
#

WE FRIGGIN DID IT

carmine escarp
#

another award 🥇

toxic root
fiery socket
fathom sentinel
plush citrus
tribal oriole
knotty canyon
rigid escarp
#

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

cursive tree
blazing crypt
fathom sentinel
#

Amazing job Supergiant <3 we love u

iron coyote
#

H Y P E

tribal oriole
brisk trail
#

love u guys

blazing crypt
#

Im so glad to be apart of this community

rigid escarp
#

YEAH BABYYY

toxic root
#

lets gooo

rustic imp
#

aye lesgo

urban pier
#

LETS GO GUYS

rustic imp
#

I'm in top 12 for a game that won 2 awards pog

blazing crypt
#

goodjob!

crystal escarp
#

Congrats, we love you guys!! zagluv zagluv

lone kernel
#

Zagreus for smash

safe jolt
#

Not just beat indie game 2020 but one of the best games I have played this year. Bought challenging bosses and a hooking gameplayzagluv zagluv zagluv

brisk trail
#

tbh i want

#

hades to get a physical release for switch

fathom sentinel
#

Everything about this game is phenomenal, I'm super glad I got it.

still raptor
rustic imp
#

hopefully this will make them consider additional content 😀

fathom sentinel
#

The world is phenomenal and the voice acting is just OJIFPOIRJFFSDASD

brisk trail
#

2 awards so far!

earnest wing
#

Game of the year incoming?

brisk trail
#

i hope so

#

honestly, as long as last of us doesn't get it

#

I'll be happy

distant forge
#

Congrats Supergiant! ❤️

calm laurel
#

My guess is Miles Morales

distant forge
#

Fully deserved, Hades is amazing

calm laurel
#

True

summer geyser
#

How are you all doing tonight

#

Does discord overlay work on Hades for you guys?

#

Thanatos kill stealing me 😩

brisk trail
#

Nothing is more satisfying than seeing "Robbed Thanatos" in the victory screen.

modest lantern
#

Wait, did hades win an award?

#

I haven't been watching

flat vapor
#

best action and best indie, so far!

lean jasper
#

Best Action and Best Indie!

#

There's still narrative and GotY left

#

sorry direction

#

not narrative

modest lantern
#

When did it get announced?

blazing crypt
#

narrritive was the last of us

barren ocean
#

^

#

Dunmo how but

blazing crypt
#

ikr

barren ocean
#

Praying Hades GotY

blazing crypt
#

Prayiiing

#

probs rigged

barren ocean
#

^

#

Not hades related but tlou2 shouldn't be winning anything lol

#

What else is left for hades

blazing crypt
#

i didntlike it...loved the first one though

barren ocean
#

I think theres a couple more categories

#

Game direction?

grave sphinx
#

That was done

blazing crypt
#

i hope among us gets more

barren ocean
#

Ah crap

#

Mmm

summer geyser
#

I played among us a lot a few years ago

#

Not so much anymore :c

grave sphinx
#

Hades was robbed of its rewards

summer geyser
#

I think I only voted for ror2 tbh

blazing crypt
#

yup

#

ror is great

barren ocean
#

Among is fun

blazing crypt
#

yesss

barren ocean
#

So last section is GOTY

#

For hades at least

blazing crypt
#

yeee

barren ocean
#

Who won game direction

blazing crypt
#

idk...

prisma wind
#

Hey, I you want to chat about the Game Awards, please do so in #video-games

#

Thanks!

barren ocean
#

Oh didnt see that thanks!

sick veldt
#

Congratulations team! 🙂

topaz stag
#

congrats on the awards my dudes rukkarFrtR

sick veldt
#

Was just on my 13th run when I realised the awards were on.

summer geyser
#

Aegis master race

lone kernel
#

I was on my 149th

#

I bought hades for my brother for Christmas

#

💚

summer geyser
#

How has he been enjoying it?

silk cosmos
#

I guess the last of us will win?

silver spire
#

i bet it will, not deserving

silk cosmos
#

They are even giving a "concert" with a song from it

#

Hades deserved wayyyyyyy more

#

But I still have hope

calm laurel
#

Kinda classiest

#

In the game sense

distant night
#

o-o

brisk trail
#

Indie games were already great.

woeful wigeon
#

ss when

brisk trail
#

Dividing indie and AAA is a problem, but if we're going to go down that route, make AAA great again.

chilly delta
#

Best Action game and Best Indie, We need the GOTY now

safe jolt
#

Oo.. who will win

#

Of course

modest lantern
#

Oh my god

sweet basin
#

boooo

still raptor
#

robbed

modest lantern
#

I mean.. hades can still win game of the year but yknow

heavy fossil
#

who won

sweet basin
#

@open linden Yo nice

topaz stag
#

what a joke this year's game awards...hades deserved so many more awards...

sweet basin
#

But you can win thru legal battles yeah?

safe jolt
#

Next up is the big one

topaz stag
#

last of us stole awards it did not deserve

sweet basin
#

true

chilly delta
#

last of Us is the Mad Max of Oscars?

prisma wind
#

If you want to talk Game Awards, please do so in #video-games and keep this channel for Hades related discussion, please

sweet basin
#

It's literally the elections again

topaz stag
#

well it was "inclusive" and all that rukkarKEKW

sweet basin
#

"Diversity"

topaz stag
#

ye

sweet basin
#

Ah yes the whole rewriting history bit now

topaz stag
#

hopefully the gaming industry won't go south like the movies industry

sweet basin
#

It will....

distant night
#

but game creators like sgg will always be there to keep up upward

topaz stag
#

i put my hopes in indie devs

safe jolt
#

Here it comes

shell field
#

surely

lavish skiff
#

nominated woo

topaz stag
#

it's rigged but fingers crossed rukkarKEKW

lavish skiff
#

get ready for last of us 2 grubcry

topaz stag
#

what a joke...

rare onyx
#

This is so stupid

safe jolt
#

Please no last of us

#

Oh my

lavish skiff
#

watch your language?

topaz stag
#

no bot, you watch your language rukkarKEKW

sweet basin
#

RIOT!

lavish skiff
#

oh

shell field
#

rigged

scarlet ice
#

hades got so robbed

topaz stag
#

what a bunch of .... maaan, hades got so shafted...

nocturne ginkgo
#

look at least they won indie and action

oak gust
#

Oof

glad turtle
#

I'm upset

scarlet ice
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actually not even hades

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every game was robbed

nocturne ginkgo
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I'm happy they won a couple awards cause thats still cool

scarlet ice
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the last of us out here pickin pockets

nocturne ginkgo
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They def got robbed of soundtrack though

scenic drum
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I mean hades still got best indie game

lone sinew
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As expected

safe jolt
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2 wins ain't bad

spiral heath
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TLOU2 was not deserving of all it's rewards lol, Its was an ok game

glacial narwhal
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so rigged man

tribal oriole
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You guys did so good zagluv you’re still my game of the year!!

lone sinew
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Well best indie and action game congratulations supergiant!!

pallid bramble
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TBH though, it says a lot when an Indie Game gets so far as to win Best Indie and get nominated, and stand above with the other big games. SuperGiant made something that will definitely go down as a pure gem, a pure piece of art that will be enjoyed for time to come.
As much as it hurts they didn't take the big award home, they still got there and made something that we truly all enjoy.

I think we should all give SG a huge shoutout and props for getting there.

topaz stag
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well, i guess the tlou2 devs have to move to brazil to avoid the hate rukkarKEKW

nocturne ginkgo
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LETS GO SUPERGIANT y'all make the best games and I love every one of you!

brisk trail
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Rigged.

deft cedar
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Robbed

indigo plank
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@pallid bramble exactly, couldn't have said better

plush citrus
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congrats supergiant for winning 2 awards!

summer obsidian
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Congrats on the 2 awards and nomination for Hades! Amazing job Supergiant 💖 let's keep chat positive yeah

tribal oriole
nocturne ginkgo
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I'm positive that supergiant got robbed on at least two awards

deft cedar
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Goty of my heart

nocturne ginkgo
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hyuk hyuk

tribal oriole
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To anyone being negative ZagBonk

lone sinew
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You won goty for us!!!friendly zagluv

arctic pumice
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Congratulations Supergiant Games!!! Super Indie and Action Game!

nocturne ginkgo
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Honestly Hades won more awards than I honestly thought they would because the game awards are always "interesting" So I'm so happy for them

flint fossil
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Hades still won an award right?

agile cloak
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Congratulations supergiant games

safe jolt
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The music is good tough...

flint fossil
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Congrats!

safe jolt
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2 rewards yea

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Best indie and action

mighty orbit
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Congrats Supergiant Games!! Well deserved wins - Hades has such a special place in so many people's hearts! Thank you for such a great game!

tribal oriole
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❤️zagluv 💚

safe jolt
wispy canopy
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Thanks Supergiant!!! Congrats for the 2 wins, and you're the GOTY of our hearts.

topaz stag
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lmao, being negative?! dude, tlou does not deserve anything it got

supple hull
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It’s huge that Hades was nominated for goty!

safe jolt
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Bed time folks residentzag

tribal oriole
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Two awards for both Zag’s eyes ❤️💚

topaz stag
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how can you call fairness as being negative?

wispy canopy
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LOU2 wasn't that great... it just had marketing.

vagrant dew
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fine work supergiant!

knotty canyon
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It would either be DOOM or Hades if it wasn't for The last of us 2

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Ofc Hades deserves it the most imo.

austere grove
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Hades is a far more innovative and unique game than TLOU2. I'm not hating on TLOU2, I think it's a good game, but it did not deserve GOTY

tribal oriole
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I thought Ghost would get it

deft cedar
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Like every great run, you got the boon you want twice and still managed to clear shadesmile

lone sinew
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Just think of it man reaching so far with an indie game and especially a roguelike which a is a genre many don't like is maybe even greater than a game like last of us or the rest getting goty

knotty canyon
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True

brisk trail
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im so glad Hades won goty

deft cedar
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same

lone sinew
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Yeah

hushed hamlet
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YOU GUYS ARE MY GOTY

indigo plank
knotty canyon
tribal oriole
slim grail
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is kraken in this game?

lone sinew
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Community of the year 😂

fathom sinew
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kinda sad that its about how bombastic and mediatic the games are but honestly this game srchives levels of quality equal or bettrr than any given AAA and thats something that blows my mind

silk remnant
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Im so happy for SGG! Congrats!!! Also yall deserve better tbh!!!

astral laurel
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aw man

slim grail
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wait the news has been out? hades won???

lone sinew
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The last of us part 2 won but Hades won our hearts

fresh root
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Very true

lone sinew
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And accomplished something rly big for an indie game and it feels so great for us indie game funs to see that

slim grail
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ohhh aww. i thought hades won judging by what you guys wrote here haha. but im so happy that hades got at least this close or even a nomination surrounded by AAA games

nocturne ginkgo
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Hades won best indie and best action

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so they did win just not goty

lone sinew
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It won best Indie and action though

tribal oriole
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Hades got best indie and action!

slim grail
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wah ok taht is awesome enough for me!

lone sinew
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Bro it's 5 AM 😂

grim carbon
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For me, HADES is A really true game in any means. Game make people enjoy, have fun together and maybe train their skill, reflexes,etc.. everything is so politician now made g of "some" games are way too complicated and maybe, ruin the intention of games. Hades is Game of the year in my heart

tribal oriole