Getting the board game and zag saying basically "oh wait...I need friends to play this" is so sad ahahha
#h1-discussion
red tiger
feral urchin
add it as a minigame supergiant pls
severe saddle
Too much sex not enough board games
feral urchin
well that's to be expected
tiny grove
Too much sex not enough board games
xd
manic bobcat
tfw your SOs just want you for the sex and not the boardgames.
exotic furnace
one of the first decorations i get was aphro's poster :D
winter harbor
Same
feral urchin
real men get achilles and dionysus
and then only get aprhodite's to complete the bedroom renovations
winter harbor
It's what a stereotypical teenage boy would get
feral urchin
wrong
red tiger
Still dont have dionysis poster lol
red tiger
Got the board game first just yesterday because I got a bunch of gemstones from some quest I finished
All of the different status effects on monsters from that one pact
exotic furnace
its a waste if you consider that you can just listen to the songs on the internet, but i purposefully dont do that to make the in-game music feel more special
fluid pivot
ok, on the bull of minus, how do you avoid his charge? I have 3 charges and yet he alkways manage to catch me in the end
exotic furnace
you have to take sharp corners
fluid pivot
can I change through him?
exotic furnace
and make him run into a wall or pillar
feral urchin
ok, on the bull of minus, how do you avoid his charge? I have 3 charges and yet ...
run
fluid pivot
charge*
feral urchin
you can dash through him yeah
red tiger
I wish there were a toggle on the ingame songs to listen to the vocals instead of just instrumentals if you want
fluid pivot
ok thanks
distant night
ok, on the bull of minus, how do you avoid his charge? I have 3 charges and yet ...
you ca force him to slam into the walls
red tiger
Or you run through the obstacles
distant night
yeah that too
red tiger
And he crashes into them
Is there anyone at all who kills theseus first
That sounds like a bad idea
exotic furnace
you can also just have extra speed from hermes and zeus' lightning and just keep zapping him until he gets tired
distant night
yes
feral urchin
I always kill thesus first
distant night
it's easy with the right call
feral urchin
unless it's the EM version then I kill asterius first
distant night
you can insta pop him after he reaches stage 2
thorny yarrow
I just had the choice between a zeus boon and an athena+zeus duo boon.
Never was a choice this easy.
fluid pivot
ooff
exotic furnace
i kill theseus first because hes a pompous jerk... no jk i always kill the bull first
red tiger
I dont want to be avoiding thesus' arrows, the god he summons AND the bull
fluid pivot
beat him with 8 hp left
distant night
thats why you insta pop him
feral urchin
it's way easier to beat thesus first imo
red tiger
No way
distant night
later on, yes
red tiger
Later on? Hmm
distant night
but not beginner game
red tiger
still have 4 heat at the most atm
distant night
yeah, companion with epic call instantly kills theseus
feral urchin
I never killed the bull first even after my first few times ifghting them
only reason I kill asterius first is if they're the EM version
exotic furnace
yeah, companion with epic call instantly kills theseus
really? how much health does he have?
distant night
i have 20 heat with spear, my fastest elysium bossfight was under 1min 😂
red tiger
It took me 7 tries to try beating theseuds/asterius my first time
distant night
really? how much health does he have?
only 9k
trim otter
hi can anyone help me pls
exotic furnace
well theyre champions, what do you expect
trim otter
i have a huge crush on dusa
feral urchin
with the right stuff, even without companions, you can utterly destroy thesus and the bull in a minute, even less
distant night
if you use artemis call on max is does up to 5k damage in one hit
exotic furnace
dusa is cute, you dont need help
feral urchin
^
distant night
so get your artemis ultra call, get theseus to under 50%, call on artemis, his invincibility wears off and you dont have to deal with him at all
trim otter
i get too excited when she's around
thorny yarrow
She does the same. So good fit imo
trim otter
and when i come back to the house i rush to the lounge
red tiger
Have you maxed her hearts yet
trim otter
i'm at the last one
feral urchin
aphrodite's call destroys thesus on max gauge
red tiger
I only used aphrodites call once ever and the other enemies didnt seem to be helping me kill another enemy AT ALL
distant night
aphrodite's ultra only does 2.5k damage
distant night
aphrodite's call is only helpfull as her ultra against bosses
feral urchin
does like a third of thesus's health
exotic furnace
sometimes she does more but i dont understand whyt
red tiger
Calls are so. Important
There have been several times I would not have beat the final boss if not for a call being used at max gauge
distant night
that's a lot
yes it is, jsut saying that theseus' 50% is 4.5k accordign to the wiki
feral urchin
still can help kill him really quickly
winter harbor
Artemis's call has saved me many times
feral urchin
so I don't see what the problem is
distant night
yes indeed
feral urchin
even if he does live he'll help kill asterius too
then you whack him once and no more thesus
distant night
the isnt one, i thought you or somebody said that aphro's ultra call instantly pops theseus in stage 2
feral urchin
but it's close
distant night
ikr
red tiger
lol does theseus have extra dialogue when he finds out he accidentally killed his best friend
feral urchin
artemis's call even when it does crit doesn't seem to do as much damage
distant night
but it pops hydra instantly to the next stage
red tiger
Can supergiant make a hades anime please
I did not enjoy blood of zeus I just want hades anime
distant night
well it's 10 arrows with 100-130 base damage per arrow, so even without crit it's already 1-1.3k, with a pom you're already by 180 base damage
and crits do 3x the damage, so 3-4k base without pom, 4-5k with just 1-2 poms if epic (which calls usually tend to get)
winter harbor
"Yes, we're thinking of a Cuphead-like animation thing for our next game. Do you think you can draw and animate 100k frames in the next week?"
distant night
artemis is amazing
distant night
her duos too
winter harbor
Unrealistic if you want to keep the art the same
distant night
aphro and artemis have the best duo boons imo
red tiger
true there is a LOT of detail in those character portraits
feral urchin
i keep seeing a lot of the same duo boons
distant night
like lightning rod? the bane of every duo boon hunter?
distant night
the pom duo is annoying when you get it late
winter harbor
Same with the epic duo
distant night
or demeter's boon upgrade, if you get it in tartarus and have decent boons, it's sooo worth it,but in elysium i'll jsut cri
feral urchin
i always get demeter's boon upgrade when I only have one other boon 
distant night
thats sad too
but if it's a hella good first boon, getting it to be heroic when fighting ||father dearest|| is gonna feel gud c:
feral urchin
it's never a hella good first boon unfortuantely
distant night
WE NEEED NEW MORE ACHIEVEMENTS!!!!
amen
distant night
:c
switch sounds so sad
no updates, no achievements, how are you guys doing? do yall need a dusa hug?
trim otter
i love her
fluid pivot
when do I get to fish?
cinder lichen
...How often do you guys think the devs (overall) play Hades for fun in the middle of development?
brisk trail
id get fired for playing too much and not working HDHFSKALDLF
but idk
@fluid pivot I think if you progress the story you unlock it naturally p early, u have to buy it from the contractor
ik thats not super helpful WAHFJFKSKDLF
cinder lichen
I mean like not literally in the middle of development, but in between builds and patches, lol
modest phoenix
Did I hear Overly Sarcastic Productions???
I actually have a friend that works in the gaming industry
cinder lichen
Oh, yeah, Danny, I looked up what god Zagreus was supposed to be, and only think I found was the "Orphic Dionysus" myth
And then a few run later and after I find that this myth was turned into a literal joke and I love it!
modest phoenix
The devs arent usually the ones who play the game when testing it out actually
They have testers to play the game for them
Thats one of my friend's jobs
distant night
the game is too fun for them to only program it and not snoop to play it themselves
cinder lichen
I mean that would make sense, but what if I put Gavin on blast for having "Playing Hades" and that's why I ask my question, lol
modest phoenix
She said that the devs give the testers a list of stuff to do in the game
to make sure its working
Oh good point
cinder lichen
lol
distant night
I mean that would make sense, but what if I put Gavin on blast for having "Playi...
oh my, good timing with the question lmao
cinder lichen
You see some of the devs playing the game from time to time. Usually just one or two of them. If it's a big update, such as 1.0, you might definitely see someone. If they aren't developing the game (not saying they aren't), how often do you think they play the game recreationally, even before we got our 1.0?
modest phoenix
Game testers also have to take note of bugs in the games
and my friend showed me her notes
and it's the funniest thing I ever saw
"feet missing
return of the missing feet
glitching wall
feet?"
modest phoenix
nah she works at 2K and was testing one of the basketball games from last year i think
cinder lichen
Neat sportsball
modest phoenix
i am a simple nerd
i see a ball and cry
modest phoenix
oh yeah I wanted to mention
I think its really cool theres a discord for this
foggy lagoon
recommended mirror choices?
modest phoenix
oh man good question
foggy lagoon
and use the other options for the others?
cinder lichen
Honestly...all of the other mirror choices are very much up to debate
modest phoenix
oh thats interesting
cinder lichen
Well, almost entirely depending on preference.
modest phoenix
I only started playing yesterday
so I'm also wondering what mirror choices to take
cinder lichen
Alright, meet me in Builds and Combat and let me pull up a list of Mirror Talents for me to make my opinions on. They're all viable, some more than others objectively, but if you want my fullest opinion on this, and I'm certainly interested, I'm gonna start typing that.
modest phoenix
nice!
plain falcon
Hey, peeps, anyone able to tell Saladin Ahmed the answer to this?
I think the answer is "no", but I'm really bad at the game and haven't progressed very far:
https://twitter.com/saladinahmed/status/1334224715867688962
Twitter
winter harbor
Yeah, I think the answer is no
the steamiest it gets are implied sex scenes that are fade-to-blacks
and I guess Aphrodite is nude but they covered her up tastefully with her hair
modest phoenix
well theres blood in the game
and Aphrodite's design isn't child appropriate I think
It depends on what hes okay with showing her kid
naive falcon
Ermm, Patch didn't hit the Epic store yet?
modest phoenix
i dont think so
plain falcon
I believe Saladin is he/him (he writes comic books)
plain falcon
Hah, in the time it took me to copy and paste over here suddenly there's like 30-odd replies already
It had 0 before I grabbed the link
modest phoenix
oh O:
dusty grail
Okay so I have every keepsake but the last one, how do I get it?
winter harbor
Finish the story
dusty grail
oh
void nova
daaaamn Hades is steam's second highest rated game of all time after Portal 2, and it's been steadily climbing to get here so here's hoping it can grab that #1 spot! not that portal 2 isn't also great of course
plain falcon
They don't even seem to be competing in the same space
exotic furnace
wow seriously
void nova
going off this anyway:
plain falcon
Those top 3 look fine to me
red tiger
Its by percentage though
So like
in the same way that a small indie movie on imdb with 20 ratings with 15/20 of them beings 10/10s, can still end up as a 9/10 or so
void nova
it has a comparable amount to factorio i'd say
i mean it's not like the others are orders of magnitude away
plain falcon
90k is plenty, but that's 35th in order of positive reviews
TF2 has almost 690k positive (but, also, 43k negative)
thorny crescent
void nova
modest phoenix
void nova
so it somewhat deemphasizes cases with just a small number of reviews in general
if i'm reading that right anyway
muted carbon
sometimes i wish there were emotes for the game
naive falcon
Oh, I wonder what happened.
red tiger
what do you mean? there are emotes for the game
muted carbon
wha?
naive falcon
I assumed the pending a service outage was over after 24 hours.
muted carbon
tell me these secrets
red tiger
muted carbon
lol
red tiger
theres plenty
tacit ember
bruh
that would take up a button that controlers dont have
but for pc that could work fine
muted carbon
laugths in pc master race
tacit ember
yes
muted carbon
but what if
muted carbon
oh
the psin attack is now something thats shot out
like a milti hit vortex
that vortex returns its dammage it does back as health
red tiger
I use pc but controller way more fun with this game
mouse and keyboard mostly only good for FPS and MMORPGs
tacit ember
what is psin
red tiger
and RPGs like skyrim I forget what they're called
tacit ember
also i have played around with guanyu
muted carbon
spin
tacit ember
mouse and keyboard mostly only good for FPS and MMORPGs
ding dong your opinion is wrong
tacit ember
controler is so good att shoting games
sick torrent
Did my second attempt of using the spear yesterday after using mostly sword for most of my runs. Got all the way to the top level before getting stomped. It's stupid good at stunlocking enemies to death once their armor's down.
tacit ember
tacit ember
Did my second attempt of using the spear yesterday after using mostly sword for ...
what do u mean by top level styx?
sick torrent
Yupyup, got to the boss there, even. Couldn't take 'em out yet though.
tacit ember
spere is low damage i think or maby im just bad
sick torrent
Oh yeah per-hit it can be kinda shoddy I think
tacit ember
but guan yu is super high damage but u can only take like 1 hit
muted carbon
i need to get a way to find more hammers
blissful girder
Hi
red tiger
how to get more hammers: be luckier 4head
sick torrent
I had some good daealus effects that increased its effective range and made each swing split off in three directions though so it was really good at crowd control with its stunlocking
sick torrent
I thought I picked up three hammers last run but I could be misremembering
tacit ember
I had some good daealus effects that increased its effective range and made each...
yes that good
tacit ember
I thought I picked up three hammers last run but I could be misremembering
u cant? u can get 3 from byeing anvill at final shop
patent umbra
Get one hammer before entering styx. Be lucky and have one show in a tunnel exit. Enter another tunnel and use reward rerolls to get hammer. Come out and get the other hammer. Buy anvil for four hammers.
tacit ember
u can get hamer is styx?
patent umbra
If you don't have two upgrades it has a chance to appear as one of the tunnel rewards
patent umbra
If you use fated authority to reroll room rewards inside a tunnel, you can get hammer to appear even if it is already locked in a different tunnel
tacit ember
ahha
red tiger
hey. here are spoilers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagreus . What video game? It's spoilers for a 2000 year old greek myth
tacit ember
what if u get lucky and roll all of the tunes to hamers
what happens if you roll one of the "boss" tunles to hamer
does it give u extra good hamers
patent umbra
no
patent umbra
Because hammer upgrades don't have rarities
patent umbra
Once you have two hammers, you can't roll another
patent umbra
Because you aren't supposed to find more than two in a run
tacit ember
will having 4 hamers make u op or just meh
ima try that
also can you have save stats in hades
jaunty vapor
the only way you can get more than 2 hammers is with an anvil
tacit ember
this guy sayed u can get 4
burnt breach
wow, I didn't notice that they updated Aphrodite's portrait
remote anchor
Yeah, I think not
robust sundial
jaunty vapor
Are hades lewd mods a thing that exist?
keen scaffold
I have only been here for 20 seconds
lime grove
Who wants to see what level I got my Pressure Points boon to
keen scaffold
I feel like the Skelly sprite looks way less detailed compared to everyone else. That just me? 
plush badge
Yo how much money do I have to spend to get the sprites for max bonds as pins?
short pivot
hey everyone, I have died too many times to the bone hydra at like 10% hp, and I finally encountered eurydice....I'm wondering if the ambrosia delight or pom nectar gives a better bonus? any other opinions?
burnt breach
Yo how much money do I have to spend to get the sprites for max bonds as pins?
do you mean the stickers?
frosty merlin
If i have a feature suggestion where might I go about leaving it?
plush badge
Yeah the stickers
stiff aurora
I cant seem to complete Meg favor, how many times are you suppose to fight the furies?
plush badge
I just think those would be really neat to have
pliant sparrow
hey everyone, I have died too many times to the bone hydra at like 10% hp, and I...
- ambrosia delight if ur core boons are low rarity
- pom nectar if ur core boons are at a decent rarity but need levels to scale
- third option if u want a higher chance at legendary/duo boons
short pivot
1) ambrosia delight if ur core boons are low rarity
2) pom nectar if ur core boo...
sounds good, thanks. I understood the last choice but couldn't quite decipher the pros/cons of the first two
severe saddle
I've gotten 3 hammers without an anvil
pliant sparrow
I cant seem to complete Meg favor, how many times are you suppose to fight the f...
Just continue playing itll come up eventually
stiff aurora
Just continue playing itll come up eventually
even if I beat the credits? I saw the conversation of when she gets her stuff from the room on youtube and it seems like it was suppose to happen earlier
pliant sparrow
Main story takes precedence over individual character stories
Every individual character also has random dialogues to go thru, so its rng
Its literally just random
muted carbon
what happens once you forge a bond?
distant night
you get a companion from certain individuals and others just get a cute chibi next to their keepsake and i think some special words
muted carbon
ah
well me and boat master are buds now
and companion?
like what a minion that does stuff?
distant night
companions are special keepakes
muted carbon
aaaah
distant night
they are summonable during encounters
stiff aurora
Every individual character also has random dialogues to go thru, so its rng
can I still unlock hearts and favors after the epilogue?
brisk trail
Yes.
fair matrix
can I still unlock hearts and favors after the epilogue?
Yep! There's one god you won't be able to proceed until after the epilogue
opal pollen
Is it of any use to keep a god's keepsake after a boss other than to rank it up ?
Like, will its effect of the next boon being of that particular god apply more than once per run ?
heavy breach
I think equipping a god's keepsake after a boss guarantees that the God boon will appear eventually in the next floor
You might have to go through a couple of chambers before you find it
random ermine
@vale drift Epic Store services are operational again: https://status.epicgames.com/
Any chance we could get the update pushed out today?
vale drift
Hey, we are working on it -- thank you for your patience.
random ermine
Oh, I see. Thank you
red tiger
Hey are you guys by chance working on the thing where if you press to see the new thing achieved in achilles' book, you often have to scroll down and actually search for the book entry, rather than the thing automatically popping up?
I'm not the only one who said this we were talking about that in this channel the other day
opal pollen
Can confirm this is pretty annoying. So much so that I don't bother reading the updated descriptions most of the time.
red tiger
not sure if he's still here @vale drift
rain thorn
Doesn't the codex already scroll to the most relevant character?
opal pollen
Not for me
red tiger
its just the last thing you read a lot of the time
rain thorn
I am on a Switch btw, e.g. if I stand next to Orpheus and press L to bring it up it scrolls to Orpheus's page.
red tiger
or sometimes it will go to the PAGE of the thing you're looking for, but you have to scroll and look for it yourself. im on steam
opal pollen
Most of the time, it's not even in the correct category and will show the diamond entry.
red tiger
Yeah it does that zed, but when you get a brand new thing it doesnt
rain thorn
ah ok
red tiger
like say I just caught a brand new fish and the symbol of the codex pops up. I have to actually go and look for the new fish
rain thorn
I must have not paid attention then. I mostly have used it to look up NPC/god info etc.
silver kestrel
It's working great on Switch
Always opens to the stuff I recently got or that I'm right next to.
random ermine
Doesn't show it instantly on PC, last I checked
Which is what I presume they're talking about
silver kestrel
Yeah just letting them know Switch version seems to be doing what they want so the code is probably there just something is interfering on PC by the sound of it.
vale drift
@random ermine and all, the Epic Games Store patch should be back.
random ermine
Awesome, thanks!
edgy zinc
Is there a reason Daedalus Hammer boons are usually way better than other boons despite being the same rarity?
distant night
you cant change them (with the fated dice thingies) and you can have max 2 that you chose yourself (3 if you let fate decise with the amboss)?
opal pollen
And they always drop in Tartarus and Elysium too, afaik.
sweet prism
if you don't get one in Tart you can get it in the heated fields
distant night
they can also drop in styx if you havent gotten one i think
distant night
yea
edgy zinc
Interesting, never noticed that it always spawn
opal pollen
So it's safe to not pay for one in Charon's shop, it will have to spawn in Asphodel if not bought ?
sweet prism
there's a small unlucky chance one won't show up to make up for it
but its very small, or already patched out lol
fleet ibex
can anyone tell me if chaos stacks with shattered shackles or does chaos overrides it?
opal pollen
TIL: The "Convenience Fee" punishment doesn't increase the price of the diamond/blood in the Styx shop.
distant night
huuuuh now i wonder what the absolute max of getting obol per run is o.o
red tiger
I have never once bought a diamond/blood in the styx shop
And don't plan to unless I need to for some fated list requirement
twilit egret
Finally made it to Asphodel for the first time
idle basin
I have never once bought a diamond/blood in the styx shop
I did once or twice because I had too much money left
narrow egret
so saving 1200 isnt worth it even for new players?
red tiger
no way
narrow egret
thought i might as well since cant beat hades anyways
red tiger
get something that will help you beat him man!
spend money at the other charon shops too
narrow egret
btw those last items before hades, their prices differ a lot , does that indicate rarity or something or nah?
twilit egret
Figures hypnos wasn't around the time I finally managed it
narrow egret
like one boon is 150 and next one is 300
red tiger
Not sure for the boons, but I know for the pom prices, the 300 ones up 2 levels where the 100s are just 1
twilit egret
Are diamonds a thing I have to completely escape to get ?
twilit egret
I don't have any yet and I want to commute the sentence
red tiger
How far have you gotten?
narrow egret
2nd floor boss drops them iirc
twilit egret
Like I said I just beat the first area ah ok
red tiger
Yeah
twilit egret
I resisted the urge to say addicting as hell
red tiger
Its like in middle school when I got bought skyrim and all I could think all day is going home to play skyrim
Like that was the same for other video games in general, sure but not for as long and specific as just skyrim
opal pollen
The game is torturing me, I want to see what happens after every run, as small a reward as it is.
quick ivy
I have just made the great, reckless discovery that Refunding everything in the mirror is enough to grant me 25000 darkness. For those in the know, you know what that gets me and I am doing it
opal pollen
Oh snap, I can't even imagine what it might be.
foggy lagoon
did i just downlaod yesterdays patch?
carmine ravine
opal pollen
If you're not sure, you can see your version on the title screen.
plush citrus
@red tiger i agree, i wanna play hades but i am at work right now and my brain is basically that 'just wanna play videogames' song
opal pollen
Hades' music has been stuck in my head for the past 5 days straight.
tidal horizon
what was in today patch?
brisk trail
Check #hades-patch-notes
tidal horizon
yeah i checked, the last patch there is the one from yesterday
there was small patch today
brisk trail
You on Steam or Epic?
distant night
epic games store
brisk trail
Maybe just a small fix that didn't warrant notes.
Sometimes those happen if the first patch didn't iron have all of its kinks ironed out.
idle walrus
need hypnos romance
distant night
max him for ||hypnos best-bro-mance||
idle walrus
interestign
visual ridge
I have just made the great, reckless discovery that Refunding everything in the ...
What is the thing though?
winter harbor
Prolly talking about the ||chaos UI theme||
quick ivy
Yep ||I have completely reset all mirror progress for chaos UI||
opal pollen
Must resist clicking the spoiler, uh.
brisk trail
Yep ||I have completely reset all mirror progress for chaos UI||
now do 32 heat mirrorless
quick ivy
That's just 32 heat with RI4
brisk trail
yes
opal pollen
This game needs more fish !
plush citrus
hades fishing simulator spinoff when
somber quest
if you aren't planning your builds around huge catch you're doing it wrong
twilit egret
Hey black lotus I finally got to the second area
I knew it was just a matter of time
plush citrus
gotta harness that big catch energy
edit: HAHAHA i typo'd an innuendo there oops
silver bone
if you aren't planning your builds around huge catch you're doing it wrong
That's the galaxy brain play. :3
brisk trail
Hey black lotus I finally got to the second area
Nice! You'll be zoomin through the bosses before u know it
half frost
i can't get the satyr sack in the first chamber can I
brisk trail
Nope, second at minimum
half frost
figured
distant night
(psst, black lotus, did you get to meet the fan?)
distant night
did you miss the first interaction or did it sound like the first? :o
brisk trail
i'm not sure, zag said smth like "thank you, my good shade" (?)
so highly probable
might've dashed through them before
distant night
yeah kinda sad but glad you got to meet em !
red tiger
For a long time there I thought that the satyr sack arrived at only the third chamber every time
nope.
just happened to be the case for a long ass time
faint flint
i play with tight deadline ofd
then i just grab the hermes boon that autocharges my call
undone cairn
Hey, doesn't "Rare Crop" from Demeter works for the achievement "Thanks, But No Thanks"?
quick ivy
Nope. That achievement is specifically for legendary boons
flat vapor
don't see why that would, not a legendary boon
undone cairn
ohh
quick ivy
Rare crop only goes to heroic
undone cairn
I thought it was heroic
nevermind then
restive rapids
oh
lone coyote
so I can't seem to find any documentation but can you be locked out of character events in hades?
also hi
opal pollen
What do you mean ?
lone coyote
the story beats and character to character interactions that come after meeting certain conditions. can you not meet the conditions at a certain point and be unable to see them in a play through even though you meet them later? I'm going to assume no because of how rogue likes work but <_<
dire pike
So far there is only one event I 'missed' so probably don't have much to worry about
And it won't block progress of any sort whether you get it or not
lone coyote
I mean like every run is different right but I'm worried about getting bad ending /good ending type deal
dire pike
No, that's not a thing
lone coyote
oh good. I only want what's best for cerberus
quasi ginkgo
❤️ we luv doggo friend
red tiger
Hey so I've never gotten to the point where I'm maxxed out at boons and I go to pick another
What happens then?
Or am I just confused and thats not a thing and it makes more room
dire pike
iirc it just adds a new row
quasi ginkgo
Ohh that makes sense ye
plush citrus
yeah i've had quite a large number equipped and it's only made extra space
muted phoenix
dire pike
ah, I see eris got nerfed but the vfx when it's active is at least more conspicuous
dire pike
yes
jaunty vapor
But yeah still that's really fun
jaunty vapor
I'm now up to heat 2
spoopy
I know this is rather specific
but I feel like if another Hermes legendary was added it should like slightly increase the amount of visuals given for attacks
like so you can see ||Hades|| spins coming for longer
sweet cipher
i'm looking for a tweet that's like a joke of hades saying "i want that twink destroyed"
but i can't seem to find it anywhere, does anybody have it perchance?
viscid moss
is there a place we can report bugs/wonky game behaviour?
opal pollen
brisk trail
could also F10 ingame
opal pollen
You can also press 
in game.
viscid moss
thanks 
ember rune
can I heal myself in the game?
opal pollen
Yes, through various means.
viscid moss
eventually, there will be different ways to do it
when you start it is rather limited tho, but it's by design
ember rune
yeah it's quite limited
opal pollen
Upgrades, fountains, special effects, etc. But no potions as you can have in most games.
ember rune
but I must admit its playability is better than Dead Cells due to the large script
every play is different
lethal socket
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viscid moss
"large" really doesn't do it justice
ember rune
hmm why?
viscid moss
its absolutely insane the amount of unique voiced dialogue this game has
sharp fossil
^
ember rune
Agree
sharp fossil
300k
viscid moss
im 200 runs in i still find new lines here and there
ember rune
wow
sharp fossil
mostly written by one dude lmao
ember rune
that's insane
opal pollen
And how some are very situational too.
I love running into the Elysium boss with the string of Ariadne x)
viscid moss
there's one that got spoiled by the patch notes i never saw
lethal socket
bruh skelly works for ||boatman||
loud valve
is it true they got random devs to record some of the voices
sharp fossil
not random lol
radiant estuary
Yes, kind of
Sometimes the placeholder voices turned out to be good enough that they became the actual voices in the end result
opal pollen
I love Skelly's voice.
sharp fossil
Darren Korb is their audio dude, and he voices Zag and Skelly but he’s had acting experience so it’s not as if he’s some rando
radiant estuary
Skelly is probably the main example that comes to mind
opal pollen
I would have never been able to tell he voiced those two, the sound so different.
loud valve
me neither
sharp fossil
same
viscid moss
hypnos is amazing
him, theseus and dionysus are just amazingly voiced
i'm still floored by the amount of work that went into all the dialogue, they really had a goal in mind when they started the game
tulip acorn
Has there been an update on the crosssaves progress?
jaunty vapor
Just beat ||Hades|| with 5hp
the nerves man
the nerves
also my first heat 2 run
loud valve
congrats
opal pollen
I'm there as well. Feels like 8 is so far away.
remote forge
i'm still floored by the amount of work that went into all the dialogue, they r...
There's dozens of contextual lines most players will never actually hear, which is quite impressive.
Like you know how Meg gives you a hard time for using the power of the mirror? After that if you turn off the mirror talents completely there's a few lines for that.
viscid moss
yea, its those that i keep finding here and there
viscid moss
i still remember the first time she mentions my weapon being boring without a hammer upgrade
remote forge
Haven't gotten that one haha. Neat.
I like her response to Exagryph.
"You want me to show you what it does?"
opal pollen
They even thought about players winning the very first run in the game, which realistically, no one would ever do.
remote forge
"...yes."
remote forge
They even thought about players winning the very first run in the game, which re...
I mean during the beta they probably realized just how insane speed runners and challenge runners can be.
It's nice to give them a little nod.
viscid moss
They even thought about players winning the very first run in the game, which re...
i almost got there on a fresh file, now i wanna give it another go 😫
remote forge
I think people give SGG too much credit though. Sure they're amazing at art, fantastic at music, incredible at dialogue and character development...
But god they're absolutely terrible at one thing.
brisk trail
i wonder if anyone ever beat the game on their first try ever though
like not fresh file
remote forge
||Disappointing their fans.||
How can they even call themselves a game company without that?
It's standard practice.
remote forge
i wonder if anyone ever beat the game on their first try ever though
Strong doubt.
viscid moss
where's my boss rush where i fight every olympian god @ SuperGiant??
viscid moss
i wonder if anyone ever beat the game on their first try ever though
first run has a lot of things excluded, makes it suuuuuuuper hard even if you know what youre doing
brisk trail
it absolutely is
loud valve
should I feel ashamed for only having cleared the game after enabling god mode?
brisk trail
no, play the game however you want to
maiden urchin
no hammers on first run even
opal pollen
It's about time to stop stigmatizing players who play on easier difficulties. If it makes the game more enjoyable for you then go on and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. And that's from a Dark Souls absolute fanboy.
stiff aurora
I'm trying to unlock Meg's favor. Can I just complete tartarus die and repeat? or do I need to finish a full run to trigger the event, it seems like I did all conversations with her but the heart is still locked
loud valve
it's hard to even tell what's going on in later rounds
so much stuff happening at once
somber quest
fr i dont see why some people cant just let others have fun
opal pollen
Cause you're not a real gamer unless the game you're playing feels like a chore /s
viscid moss
its more that people invest too much of themselves into games
timber sparrow
I forgot to screenshot my first win so that's even more fun
nocturne ginkgo
I played before godmode was a thing and loved the game but godmode just lets me turn off my brain and go doomguy
winter harbor
Nurturing the pierced butterfly to 30% is hard
rapid forum
Nurturing the pierced butterfly to 30% is hard
Yep, barely got it after few runs
viscid moss
Nurturing the pierced butterfly to 30% is hard
bow + poseidon are your friends
winter harbor
I think I got pretty close with the fists before, but it wasn't a max level butterfly at the time
viscid moss
or anything ranged really
nocturne ginkgo
the first time and only time I did em4 I got the belt and I doubt I'll go back for it in a lil bit I'm just relaxing lol
molten nymph
hestia sounds like a great butterfly weapon
rapid forum
Is butterfly bonus damage universal?
nocturne ginkgo
I'm working on getting all the 4th aspects and man these dialogues don't wanna proc
remote idol
Yeah it might be far back in the dialogue queue
viscid moss
I'm working on getting all the 4th aspects and man these dialogues don't wanna p...
you may need to ||speak to the specific person with that weapon equipped so that they notice it first||
honest zephyr
hey guys.... not really a spoiler, but feel free to put it behind text if its kind of cool. but what does borrowing money from Chiron do? ( i dont really need it this time, i have everything i want from his shop) but like what happens, i get like + 300 for this shop area, and then when i go to next area i get minis 300 ( even if that makes me negative) and then i have to make it back?
viscid moss
on top of the other requirements
nocturne ginkgo
see I asked if you need to do that and was told its still random
viscid moss
hey guys.... not really a spoiler, but feel free to put it behind text if its ki...
the best way is to experience it yourself 😋
winter harbor
Why don't you try and find out?
honest zephyr
ok ok i will
brisk trail
have fun
nocturne ginkgo
I like after talking with charon enough hermes gives you a prophecy to just stir up drama
viscid moss
see I asked if you need to do that and was told its still random
for a long time i was just missing the rail, i spoke to ||Zeus||, they mentioned it, and got it the next time i spoke
nocturne ginkgo
interesting
viscid moss
good luck!
honest zephyr
im on heat 2. stage 3 and im hitting for 1200 when i crit, im gonna be so fine dude...
i have a god bow run again
remote idol
Yeah 4th aspect dialogue is random and sometimes other dialogue events take priority
And sometimes you need the weapon equipped to trigger it
honest zephyr
when i fought one of the furies, i took her to her sheild in 2 hits.. ( 1st immune shield) I JUST GOT ALL THE PERFECT BOONS WAVE 1
so i borrowed money from him and || im soo happy i did that. do i get 20% off him forever now? or just till the end of this escape run?||
molten nymph
end of run, ye
honest zephyr
kk
flat vapor
you have to renew your subscription every run!
remote idol
And you get to keep the gold you "borrowed"
molten nymph
...now i never thought about this but does ||charon get affected by MM?||
remote idol
MM?
molten nymph
middle management
winter harbor
He's a boss, not a miniboss
molten nymph
miniboss heat
winter harbor
so my thinking is no
Only modifiers that would affect him are those that affect every encounter
remote idol
Yeah minibosses usually dont have healthbars at the top of the screen
brisk trail
what does FO2 ||charon|| fight be like i wonder
molten nymph
doesnt asterius have it
winter harbor
But asterius miniboss only changes with EM3
brisk trail
understandable
cold surge
For some reason benefits package 2 feels brutal, I’m fine with benefits package 1
I have yet to win with heightened security, routine inspection, or approval process
brisk trail
what's the difference? i've been on 2
winter harbor
Heightened security is rough
remote idol
Some of the perks on their own are pretty nasty
brisk trail
please no
winter harbor
Approval process pained me at times too
viscid moss
numbskulls with shielding and speed
brisk trail
tiny tartarus room full of skulls
makes me wanna die
never been so scared of a numbskull before
somber quest
lmao
honest zephyr
i wish the bot would like just ******** whatever u typed and then asked u edit it so u didnt lose ur message when u swear, its kinda a pain when u type liek a paragraph and then poof it's gone cause u droped an F bomb when ur talking about something excitedly
cold surge
Numb skulls being actually threatening was an unpleasant surprise
somber quest
i dipped my toe into high heat and immediately noped outta there
winter harbor
heightened security makes it way too possible to be oneshot by traps
winter harbor
Enjoy taking 100 dmg to the noggin from the spear traps in elysium
viscid moss
high heat feels great, really freshens up the game when you get better at lower heat
nocturne ginkgo
I have so many successful runs and now how many times I stub a toe on a spike track in the fury fight. Way more than I would like to admit
viscid moss
Enjoy taking 100 dmg to the noggin from the spear traps in elysium
500% trap damage is worth at least 3 heat, i'll die on this hill
honest zephyr
yea i wanna do heat soon, but god mode has to come off first......
brisk trail
40 feels impossible for me right now but maybe when i get the hang of 32
winter harbor
I would have settled for two heat but I agree with you
honest zephyr
heat caps at 99 right?
molten nymph
64
viscid moss
i got got very bad when i realized some of the final boss attacks are considered "traps"
winter harbor
63 normally, 64 in hell mode
brisk trail
no one's done it yet
somber quest
whats the highest so far?
brisk trail
i got got very bad when i realized some of the final boss attacks are considered...
this is whyyy
molten nymph
56?
brisk trail
56
winter harbor
because hell mode has personal liability, which removes your brief shield of invincibility if you take a ton of damage
remote idol
Yeah hard labor and lasting consequences are probably the main obstacles
brisk trail
i dont think so
viscid moss
time is the main one
molten nymph
its JS, health, and timer
remote idol
Max lasting consequences makes me shudder
viscid moss
timer only a problem when you got a lot else going on
molten nymph
its... not as bad as it seems
winter harbor
Does stubborn roots just not work at max LC?
molten nymph
stubborn roots works
dusk mantle
Eris rail nerfed. Been predicting this forever. RIP. Oh well at least I'm mostly done with my heat runs 😁
somber quest
eris is still very good
honest zephyr
no ones done it without cheating u mean...... and i will be honest, im not into cheating, i have no mods installed, but i did look into some.... seem stupid. like giving urself unlimited health or last stands or like ability to endless reroll boons till u get the perfect rolls, speaking of which ( i kinda wish i had that sometimes i got Hermes 3 times this run and i used 2 reolls on him, i reallyu wanted his attack speed buff, sad times, outta 15 possible boons from him, none 😥 )
winter harbor
And tidal dash no longer is one of the requirements for sea storm
molten nymph
whoa
brisk trail
i mean, if that's enjoyable for u i dont see why not
somber quest
yeah that hurts
brisk trail
wait, really??????
i thought all core poseidon
that's what i remember seeing in codex
somber quest
i only got to try the tidal dash/sea storm combo once
winter harbor
They changed requirements this past patch
molten nymph
so seastorm eris is basically ME now
honest zephyr
i switch topics, and honestly eris is still pretty good, they nerfed the duration but i think it was like 6 or 8 seconds, now the bonus lasts for 4..... still very good imo
brisk trail
if not, then that explains why i haven't gotten seastorm...
molten nymph
yeah
4s is still close to permanent
brisk trail
for 3 runs yesterday
somber quest
it was 8 they halved it
winter harbor
The dash was too good
brisk trail
i might as well try to get athena on dash
winter harbor
I'm guessing you can still activate sea storm effects via dash, but you need another poseidon core boon to enable getting sea storm in the first place
remote idol
So does it just not work with seastorm now or just not one of the requirements
brisk trail
not a req
molten nymph
just not a requirement
honest zephyr
yea 4 seconds is fine, like the bonus is so big 75 %.... on all dmg? besides the special can be really good if u get like the 5 cluster and multiple doom effects and doom on ur special.... i got that build once, and my mortor fire was hitting for 500 a shot ( i also had fast hermes special so my q cast faster) so i could litterally just spawm Q and not attack and it would have still been a sub 25 min run.
molten nymph
kind of like how fist ME wants athena dash even though its not a requirement
remote idol
I can't wait for the switch version to get patched to 4th rail aspect is slightly more usable
Cause I enjoy it even now
somber quest
im not a fan of hidden rail
remote idol
It depends a lot on getting the right boons imo
remote idol
I mean that's kind of the purpose of all the hidden aspects
They're weirder than the other ones
brisk trail
hidden spear is still the weirdest to me
but i also dont like spear in general
it feels pretty safe to play though
molten nymph
it feels safe until you got hit by a sneeze
brisk trail
i just don't enjoy it unless i got flurry jab
molten nymph
then it doesnt
somber quest
built in explosive launcher is pretty nice
honest zephyr
quick off topic since someone brought up the switch, i kinda wish i had one to play the exclusives, but im 29.... i dont even play mobile games on my phone anymore.... ..... so if i got a switch it would LITERALLY BE JUST TO PLAY zelda breath and wild and the small hand full of really good exclusives. and for that reason, i don't think it's worth it for me.
nothing against u man, i wish i could play of those games, but honestly. for me i dont want to buy a 500 dollar console just so i can play like 3 games i cant get on pc or playstation haha
nocturne ginkgo
4th aspect gun is very fun with athena special
brisk trail
who is this in response to
i have the exact reason for not getting a switch
i only want it to play mh: rise tbh
anw i think i've only used spear like 6 times or smth
molten nymph
same
brisk trail
as well as shield
still have those left to 32
i need to learn how to do achilles cast
i read you need to do a lotta actions per min
winter harbor
Spear feels clunkiest to me
nocturne ginkgo
before a few weeks ago the last I was able to play was when swords 4th was released so I'm having so much playing with all the new toys and voice lines still lol
brisk trail
throws special, tries to bull rush wait, i can't bull rush? oh
somber quest
you cant bull rush after special? bruh
molten nymph
achiles threw me into a crowd of enemies too often
somber quest
i only play zeus shield really
brisk trail
to be fair idk the optimal way to play it
remote idol
Achilles damage boost can be nutty
brisk trail
so i'll have to study a run
somber quest
but thats kinda bc i dont have enough blood to unlock the other aspects
brisk trail
i have never touched hades spear
remote idol
I did once and I didn't really notice a difference in it
molten nymph
it becomes significantly better once someone told me you can cancel the charge with a dash to do a moving spin
honest zephyr
Spear feels clunkiest to me
if ur talking about the 4th aspect i found that too when i started, a bit of attack and spead + the triple prong attack from hammer helps a lot...
like i find the 4th aspect is great until you start missing attacks, cause with regular spear, u attack so fast doesnt matter if u miss 1-2- or even three attacks in a row.... with 4 aspect if u miss 3 attacks there goes 5 seconds ( atleast early on)
brisk trail
so you become like... gasp ||hades||?
molten nymph
ye lol
somber quest
brisk trail
what a surprise
pliant sparrow
4th aspect is great until you die in a few attacks from ||hades||
but up until then you one shot everything with ur special
remote idol
What does hades spear actually do
somber quest
spin sweep makes enemies take more damage
viscid moss
im kinda sad thats all it does, feels like a strictly worse eris
molten nymph
you can still heal, yeah
pliant sparrow
you can still heal with it, right?
imagine actually healing with it, lc or not
remote idol
It's overshadowed by achilles aspect
pliant sparrow
so slow u end up losing more health than not lol
viscid moss
imagine actually healing with it, lc or not
spin charge speed uuuuuuuuuuup!
brisk trail
speen
molten nymph
hades spear marks the enemies with the spin, causing them to take +150% damage from attacks and special
brisk trail
molten nymph
works great with artemis
somber quest
double eris dmg and more than double duration
pliant sparrow
only for attack/special tho
pliant sparrow
not overall damage
somber quest
but triple dash attack go brrr
viscid moss
correct me if im wrong, but doesn't it just add a +150% to attack and special while eris is all damage (including boon damage)?
molten nymph
yep
pliant sparrow
does dash attack count as attack in that case?
viscid moss
yea
molten nymph
dash attack is attack
honest zephyr
speaking of artemis, im in a run right now, where im way past crit cap ( not all the time but a good chunk of time) i have umm 15% from bow ( zag aspect) 15% from artemis attacks. ( so 30%) ok ok how is thrill getting past crit cap from that.... i have the red version of when i crit i mark another enemy for crit, which adds 90%.....
winter harbor
it's like how all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares
molten nymph
uhh dio-arte duo adds 25%
somber quest
:( there are a bunch of builds i want to try but i have so much homework
jaunty vapor
Just lost best time by like
molten nymph
i'm not sure how crit chance stacks up though
viscid moss
only true build is rushing exclusive access and steam rolling
jaunty vapor
a second
remote idol
I got hunting blades with achilles aspect once with fully loaded
honest zephyr
hades is your homework
i got that feeling again today, cause i have 2 hammers on my bow right now ok, one is 300% dmg, the other is 150% on perfect shot. and im wondering how those stack ( honestly if i had a better option i would have teken it, but im not taking like long shot or special upgrades) and i was wondering how they stack...
for example does explosive increase my base dmg by 300? and then when i land the perfect shot that gets amped by 50%?
linear vs multiplicative stacking.... i play too many games like this..
viscid moss
im 99% sure all damage (besides base) stacks additively
real fossil
i think generally bonuses in hades are additive yeah
viscid moss
so your build will do base perfect shot + 450% of that
quiet gull
Crit is multiplicative, but everything else is additive, yeah
viscid moss
it made me sad about crit builds, they aren't as crazy as you think at first
somber quest
wait crit is multiplicative? wtf
viscid moss
its +200%, leading to 3x base damage
quiet gull
No no, it multiplies everything
pliant sparrow
Wiki says Damage = Base Damage
× (1 + Sum of Critical Damage Bonus)
× (1 + Sum of Regular Damage Bonuses)
quiet gull
Heart Rend makes the crit multiplier 4.5
It used to say +50%, now it says +150%
The actual functionality didnt change
pliant sparrow
1+3.5 = 4.5..?
viscid moss
so criting with an attack with like poseidon boon will do (base x ~100%) x3?
quiet gull
1+3.5 = 4.5..?
Like I said, it's really badly worded
pliant sparrow
Ah
honest zephyr
so everything just gets added to base damage so like in a nutshell all the damage equations look like this? ( BD short for base dam and BV short for boon value)
Total damage = (BDxBV1.50) + (BDxBV1.25) + (BDxBV3.00) +(BDxBV1.50)
etc etc
molten nymph
i wonder how pp stacks with artemis boons though
like if you have 4%pp and 15% artemis
do you have 19% or 15% and 4%
quiet gull
No, if you have two +20% attack boons, they add up to +40%
They are not multiplicative
Crit chance also stacks additively
molten nymph
so 19%
ember rune
any recommended keymap for keyboard + mouse players?
honest zephyr
so ur 50% boost on base dmage gets put on the original base damage value so lets say that 100 for easy maths, that makes u do 150 now... if u get another 50 % boost it gets added to original base damage again , so it only takes u to 200 ( not 225 which u would get if it used the 150 as the base damage)
quiet gull
any recommended keymap for keyboard + mouse players?
Get a mouse with extra thumb buttons and rebind special and cast to those
quiet gull
so ur 50% boost on base dmage gets put on the original base damage value so lets...
Correct
honest zephyr
kk
molten nymph
i like the snappy aim assist
honest zephyr
maybe man, it's preference, im sticking with mouse and keyboard, but literally every speed runner ( so like arguably the best people trying to min max everything) all use a controler because they value the movement fidelity over the precision point aiming.
molten nymph
kbm sounds like it would significantly improves hidden gun though
brisk trail
my friend called me a monster for using KBM
i'm not sure how it is on controller since i don't use it for any games
honest zephyr
yea u can only move in 8 directions xD and no speed control, x P
brisk trail
but the game was primarily made for controller, right? least that's what he said to me
quiet gull
Yeah
molten nymph
the title screen says so
remote idol
Yeah I think the devs even recommend controller
brisk trail
imagine reading
quiet gull
If they had intended for people to actually use KBM, they wouldnt have made special the Q key
honest zephyr
black, i know ps4's natively work on a pc running windows, ( cause i tried) i dont have an xbox, but like microsoft cmon.... i imagine that works too. so it's literally plug it on with a USB and you can play. no downloads or jack.
brisk trail
no
molten nymph
If they had intended for people to actually use KBM, they wouldnt have made spec...
but
R3 reload
brisk trail
are the defaults really that bad?
quiet gull
but
R3 reload
Amir literally said "that's part of the learning curve of playing rail"
brisk trail
maybe im just used to them at this point
quiet gull
Which is stupid as HECK but hey
molten nymph
lmao literally everyone rebinded it
quiet gull
Yeah
That's what I mean, rebinding it is the sign that you are now good with rail
Or something
molten nymph
amir pls
quiet gull
I dunno man, it's BS and they should still change it
molten nymph
i also rebinded boons to L3 now that i know i want to press it at basically every beginning of late rooms
jaunty vapor
So on a nemesis run out of the choices of (no prior boons) Doom Attack, Doom Special or Rift Dash which would y'all choose?
honest zephyr
wow, when ur 5 seconds short of ur 1st sub 20 min run.... (20 min 5 seconds final time).... and i was trying to go for time, and break my record, and i did by about a min and a half with this build. i know i definitely stopped to figuratively scratch my bum a couple times this run ... take take a drink of beer without pausing, or like thinking about which gate i want without pausing....
molten nymph
doom special
jaunty vapor
thunks
molten nymph
you want %damage on your attack for nemesis i think
quiet gull
Or Artemis for even MORE crit
jaunty vapor
even if I keep forgetting to change off acorn when I start new runs
for like the
50th time
pliant sparrow
or dash strike artemis
jaunty vapor
I wish you could turn on a need to change keepsake before you start run mode
pliant sparrow
- double edge
molten nymph
you want heartrend somehow right
i usually just give up the moment i realize i'm on the wrong keepsake lol
jaunty vapor
Already got double edge
molten nymph
welp you can't give up now
jaunty vapor
I haven't given up once
pliant sparrow
i usually know instantly when the first boon isnt the suspected one
pliant sparrow
cuz u want a good first boon?
molten nymph
ye
i give up a lot when i have a good first room
since giving up gives you the same room
quiet gull
I haven't given up once
Giving up just resets you back to the weapon room, like the run never happened
It doesnt count
pliant sparrow
or if theres a chaos gate first room thats good too
pliant sparrow
yah its also good for testing out weapons
since it resets ur titan blood when you give up
molten nymph
your last autosave will be the last time you enter the training room
honest zephyr
on that topic, i find most of ur rewards will also be the same.... so liek if u ran athena boon and got 3 boons first u will get those same 3 boons
quiet gull
You would have known if you had given up at least once!
jaunty vapor
I'm always happy whenever the fury is meg
she's always the easiest
I haven't tho :p
honest zephyr
also good no know if u were like planning one build. and the game is just feeding the opposite stuff on round 1, so then u mod ur build.
pliant sparrow
iirc
"When you walk through a door in Hades, a few things happen:
- A new seed is generated based on a combination of your current seed and your current position in the pseudo-random sequence, and that new seed replaces your current one.
- The room you entered, including the tile, enemies, and boon rewards, are generated
- The reward type, chaos/erebus gate, fountain, and wells, are decided for the next room. For example, you might see Poseidon, but the rewards he'll give you haven’t been determined yet.
If you start on a fixed seed, you can 'map' your way through the run, by running it over and over. Casting/summoning before doors changes what the next room has in it. You basically just trial and error your way to a route.
- from speedrunning discord
molten nymph
i'm appreciating tis more and more
jaunty vapor
Tisiphone is the second best
jaunty vapor
Alecto is just painful
Tisiphone I need to get more used to
but is fine
Meg is ez
vast cypress
I found tis easiest
pliant sparrow
meg is p slow to kill she dashes around so often
tis is easy if u have athena dash
vast cypress
Tis lets you backstab for like 5 min
molten nymph
best part about tis is she cuts off her own attacks to change rooms
somber quest
tis is easiest for me but alecto makes me cry