I use Hyper Sprint to run around and around
#h1-discussion
severe flare
quaint hatch
Spear exalted always attack faster than I expect
molten nymph
BP2
green maple
oh...?
brisk trail
i probably shouldnt have given myself TD2
quaint hatch
Nah there can be more than four blue hearts even afaik
brisk trail
im too slow for this level
green maple
TD is just panic to me tbh
quaint hatch
TD1 is free
severe flare
Does Demeter's Chill reduces FO effect?
molten nymph
i gave up deleting the hearts with special and just spam attack and hope for the best
quaint hatch
Bc you waste time
molten nymph
it reduces movement speed
green maple
i mean i cant be wasting time with rails
quaint hatch
With td you get used to pausing etc
severe flare
not attack speed?
green maple
ohhh
molten nymph
i don't think it does anything for attack speed
green maple
oh and uh
brisk trail
think i'll try replacing the 2nd TD with another modifier
green maple
any ||lucifer|| builds?
severe flare
Athena Divine Flourish
green maple
||idk how the laser fuses work||
quaint hatch
In game timer doesn't run when In npc rooms, transition, finished boss rooms, pause menu and codex
Also boon selection
severe flare
Divine Dash also if you can afford
green maple
wait it stops in npc rooms?
because they didnt really want people to skip the dialogues is what i guess
quaint hatch
||Lucifer|| is like any rail
Just run zeus
green maple
yeah when the gdong happens its pauses
quaint hatch
when he appears right?
During the fight
severe flare
before, I remember that the timer always ran
molten nymph
damn
green maple
and it begins running as soon as he leaves
molten nymph
that's huge
quaint hatch
But if you're in a boon selection the timer will stop and than will still continue dialogue and drop his heart
molten nymph
ypu can cheat that using codex
quaint hatch
Or that yup
If you're on pc do a special build on ||lucifer|| with triple bomb it's fun
On switch the buffs still have to hit
severe flare
I like ||Lucifer|| with Divine Flourish
green maple
ohhhh..?
green maple
omg?
waiiiiit
if the special lodges to the enemy is every attack deflected towards the special-ed enemy
brisk trail
aight i died
severe flare
yes
brisk trail
gonna keep dying
quaint hatch
Special can't lodge to enemy
green maple
but
severe flare
all the balls auto deflect for you
green maple
||lucifers special sort of lodges||
quaint hatch
If you're on switch special build isn't worth it
brisk trail
cause of the aim?
quaint hatch
||lucifers special sort of lodges||
It doesn't
It stays where it's dropped
severe flare
for the gun, I always use special
green maple
damn you, skelly, you shouldve moved
quaint hatch
Pc has a buff where bombs drop way faster
Makes dps higher
severe flare
don't mind about attack
brisk trail
ohh
green maple
ohhhh
quaint hatch
And aiming less scuffed
brisk trail
the rocket bomb hammer is fun
severe flare
Ka BOOM!
green maple
gives me the chill vibes
quaint hatch
Travel time means when you special hits the emmy prolly is already gone
indigo nest
I never had fun with it beyond rocket bomb
green maple
so switch rockets land real low?
like pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew?
indigo nest
I use switch and rockets are good
green maple
*slow
quaint hatch
The secret gun special has been buffed on pc
green maple
ohhh
indigo nest
Meh Idk
quaint hatch
I use switch and rockets are good
Read the discussion
Yeah you don't know
That's the thing man
indigo nest
Oh wait are you talking about the lock-on issue?
green maple
triple is super epic tbh
indigo nest
Idk what lodging is sorry-
brisk trail
what about... triple rockets
green maple
its like
brisk trail
was that a thing
severe flare
looks cool
green maple
cool af
indigo nest
Gun is a cool weapon in general
green maple
yeah
severe flare
for me, it's the best
green maple
but theres this one thing called "stygius"
quaint hatch
There is no gun in zagreus
green maple
also a damn cool weapon
quaint hatch
Every weapon is nice
severe flare
I love the bow and the gun
quaint hatch
Imo
green maple
yeah they have their own fun
shield feels good when you do the laser boops in the final boss
it feels so good
+how do speedrunners attack inside the laser of the final boss i dont really understand
severe flare
shield is good bc of blocking
indigo nest
Shield is good for high dps as well, I got 4 chaos boons of atk up the last time I used it and was up to 200 dmg per hit
green maple
shield does good damage
quaint hatch
You can stand next to final boss in 360° laser and won't get hurt
severe flare
I use|| Dragon Rush||
indigo nest
Yeah you can
green maple
i really underestimated the shield and was like ehehe who plays shield?
quaint hatch
Doesn't work in EM4
green maple
me after a week: clears with shield
green maple
Doesn't work in EM4
does the mechanism change or smth
quaint hatch
I don't use shield blocking
Only dps rotation
severe flare
when I was a beginner, I loved the shield
quaint hatch
When I was a beginner I hated spear
I changed now
severe flare
Yes but it's very slow for me
quaint hatch
Shouldn't
quaint hatch
Just bc attack is faster doesn't mean it's better
For spear special you just need explosive launcher and do a crit build
severe flare
better for me only, I guess
severe flare
you're right
I used the wrong build
that's why I lost
now the spear is no more my weakness
quaint hatch
Same for me before
green maple
tbh i dont really even attack in spear build
i find myself fiercely dash striking
all the time
quaint hatch
...
green maple
+is ||charon ||easy to deal when you have the shield
severe flare
yesss!
quaint hatch
That a spoiler btw
green maple
oooh
severe flare
block his attack
quaint hatch
||chiron|| is easier once you realise you just need to be behind him
quaint hatch
Then the attack won't hit ya
green maple
because that gold is so tempting when i go heat runs
severe flare
imo he's stronger than Hydra but weaker than Theseus and Asterius
quaint hatch
The ||customer card|| is so nice
The earlier the better
severe flare
that Obol is a lot for me
green maple
final stock
green maple
because that one final stock would be a big one to go for
quaint hatch
Imo even if u lose all three DD to him you have enough time to restore
green maple
if we meet pat in elysium then yeah
quaint hatch
1 room = 100
1 Charon = 300
Yeah but you won't have to ||fight a secret boss|| for 100 coins
green maple
lmao
quaint hatch
On TD3 ||charon|| is risky because of the time
green maple
ohh
severe flare
easier than Asterius EM3
my tactic is running around him
he doesn't rotate well imo
I sweat when I fight Asterius EM3 but don't when fight || Charon||
eternal chasm
Hello, Sons of Hades!
I've recently started playing hades and had 12 escapes by now. I've grasped most things about the game (i think). I've looked at guides on how to unlock the secret aspects and from my understanding ||Aspect of Guan Yu|| should have popped up by now and thus started the whole chain, but it didnt. Any "oh ppl usually miss out on this and that" tips? or potentially some1 really knowledgable who i could VC/+stream my screen to in order to find out whats missing?
help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope!
severe flare
read this, may wisdom be with you!
||https://hades.gamepedia.com/Eternal_Spear#Revealing_the_Aspect_of_Guan_Yu||
quaint hatch
Hello, Sons of Hades!
I've recently started playing hades and had 12 escapes by ...
First if please tag the secret aspects names
They are spoilers
crisp abyss
iirc you need to ||make sure you've exhausted the achilles dialogue pool before the waking phrase will appear||
quaint hatch
|| on both sides of the name
@eternal chasm Also theres a pinned comment in #h1-story-discussion
quaint hatch
iirc you need to ||make sure you've exhausted the achilles dialogue pool before ...
Not necessarily
It's 🇷 🇦 🇳 🇩 🇴 🇲
quaint hatch
Doing runs is better for that imo
eternal chasm
but at 60 runs in, always talking to every1 who i encounter, i assume the correct line should have popped?
quaint hatch
🇷 🇦 🇳 🇩 🇴 🇲
crisp abyss
pray to the rng gods
eternal chasm
ewwww, okay. ty
sorry aobut the missin spoiler tag earlier
zealous fiber
severe flare
don't worry, it will come eventually
brisk trail
gonna try SD next time
quaint hatch
On what heat are you?
brisk trail
32
quaint hatch
Ah ok
floral hazel
Could anyone tell me how to get past those little hearts with the locks on them so I can keep giving characters gifts hahah
quaint hatch
Both are viable on that
severe flare
there's a Steam guide about 32 heat
quaint hatch
Could anyone tell me how to get past those little hearts with the locks on them ...
Character specific quests
I can dm you a guide
floral hazel
Oh that’d be great thanks!!
severe flare
TLDR: talk to everyone, gift them nectar whenever you can
and you will see all quests
quaint hatch
That's not quite it m8
severe flare
wdym?
eternal chasm
note to my last posts here: 5 quick-death runs later, it triggered. ty everyone 🙂
quaint hatch
Some quests require specific stuff
quaint hatch
||completing all 3 romances for aphrodite f.e.||
severe flare
already done
quaint hatch
Good for you
severe flare
talking, giving nectar/ambrosia
unreal perch
New test branch and still no cross saves 😫
quaint hatch
It's about specifics dude
Idk what your problem is about giving people tippers on quest reqs
severe flare
it works for me
severe flare
I have a typo above
fixed it
I have tagged a spoiler above, said 'may wisdom be with you'
it tells the specifics about the spear 4th aspect - || Guan Yu ||
(Hades game wiki)
tame umbra
if i use a keepsake for zeus and i get a zeus boon, after i beat meg jt doesn't guarantee another zeus spawn right?
green maple
yeah
tacit ember
r people online
pliant sparrow
dunno r they?
astral swift
everyone is online
rose nexus
Too many games on sale, my brain is short circuiting
severe flare
Steam?
rancid plinth
tacit ember
by everyone u mean like 4 people
green maple
does ||styx poison|| also count as traps
nocturne copper
how come the epilogue achievement on steam is only owned by 4.5% of players?
whats needed for it?
tacit ember
what is epilogue achivement
severe flare
|| Give Nectar/Ambrosia for all Olympian gods, goddess until you can't do that anymore. Talk to Hades and Persephone||
nocturne copper
ooh yeah that is pretty tough
tacit ember
to morow its fryday
eager path
Today is thanksgiving 🦃
severe flare
Steam Sale 
pliant sparrow
that started yesterday
runic agate
A
rose nexus
i need 2 more achievements to perfect hades >.<
glacial lagoon
what's the real life equivalent to nectar?
pliant sparrow
honey?
thorny crescent
well if we’re judging by the logic that nectar is that thing bees collect from flowers to make honey
I’d say honey
glacial lagoon
contextually
thorny crescent
Honey
glacial lagoon
I guess maybe
pliant sparrow
literally a bee gave nectar to zeus
thorny crescent
they mix honey with teas
glacial lagoon
just can't imagine people enjoying bottles of it, but I guess it's possible
thorny crescent
I love honey it’s just that I don’t get to enjoy it often
glacial lagoon
I personally don't know how I'd feel about receiving that as a gift
thorny crescent
yeah honey’s healthy
pliant sparrow
"Honey was a beloved food of the gods. Ambrosia and nectar, the foods which grant immortality to the gods when they eat them, were generally considered to be similar to honey or mead. Honey was a popular offering for the gods and nymphs as well as for the dead." - https://www.planetbee.org/planet-bee-blog//the-sacred-bee-ancient-greece-and-rome, which may or may not be accurate
thorny crescent
to be fair yes
glacial lagoon
I thought it would be alcohol, from the conversations with Achilles and Artemis
thorny crescent
I don’t like chocolate tbh
glacial lagoon
maybe mead then?
thorny crescent
I thought it would be alcohol, from the conversations with Achilles and Artemis
They literally have a lounge that serves alcohol and honey is often mixed with drinks
maybe they just mix it with something
glacial lagoon
hmmmm
I did not know they served alcohol
this really needs to be an episode on how to drink
knotty aurora
nectar/ambrosia seems like alcohol to me.
cedar imp
is it just me or "blast" is the replacement word for fk?
or is there another meaning to that
cedar imp
i see
thorny crescent
I mean it can also be something like “damn it” I suppose
tepid compass
would u guys recommend Vintage Nectar(get one random boon+1 when i pick a nectar) or pitch-black darkness(give 5 +5 HP max when i get dark stones) 1st ?
brisk trail
they should post it in announcements
flat vapor
would u guys recommend Vintage Nectar(get one random boon+1 when i pick a necta...
ideally both but i would go nectar i think?
but darkness is also a very nice choice though
tepid compass
ok thx ^^
should i spend my titan blood unlocking all weapons or should i focus on boosting one weapon to max lvl ?
manic bobcat
depends
opaque nexus
I recommend spreading it out
manic bobcat
some weapons need upgrade while others is fine with level 1
opaque nexus
Well if you don’t have all of them unlocked already you should do that ASAP
manic bobcat
I would say unlock Hera Bow, ||Arthur|| Sword and leave at level 1
Then you can focus on whatever else
opaque nexus
The hidden rail and fists don’t really need many levels
tepid compass
some weapons are bad lvl 1 ?
manic bobcat
yeah
tepid compass
wanted to unlock guan yu but i heard it's bad if not max
manic bobcat
some one awesome at level and doesn't need much else also
winter harbor
Yeah, hidden spear is too punishing
tepid compass
what about the the hidden bow ?
tepid compass
bow is my favorite type weapon, great then
manic bobcat
but Zag bow with 5 blood is better
tepid compass
5 blood or 5 lvl ?
runic cipher
Personally I unlocked everything before upgrading my favorites but I think its a matter of personal preference
manic bobcat
5 blood or 5 lvl ?
yes
tepid compass
that was not a yes or no question x)
manic bobcat
it's an inclusive or
5 blood is 5 level for zag bow
because each level is 1 blood
tepid compass
oh ok xD
runic cipher
All zag aspects are one blood per level
manic bobcat
xD
tepid compass
good to know
tacit ember
is tooth like an extra death difience
manic bobcat
yes
tepid compass
stronger at the beggining
but weaker at the end
(if you have a lot of hp)
i realise after 40hours that shield can block xD
manic bobcat
bruh
brisk trail
i started playing hades last night
im loving the game
poseidon is probably my favourite characther so far
knotty aurora
bruh
gloomy pendant
could someone help me with a pretty stupid question? im trying to figure out how to upgrade the aspect on a weapon but i cant figure it out, i have all of the weapons, i have the fated list of minor prophecies, i claimed the reward for all the weapons, and ive gotten to the final boss before but the reveal option never pops up on the weapon i have equipped? what am i doing wrong? thanks!
i also have titans blood, do i have to complete a run with all of the weapons?
winter harbor
Did you reveal the aspects after equipping it?
bronze ravine
#h1-story-discussion check the pins for hidden aspects reveal
winter harbor
If it’s a hidden aspect you want, it’s a bit more involved
gloomy pendant
its so weird im literally just trying to get the aspect menu to pop up at all but i just cant get it to.
gloomy pendant
Did you reveal the aspects after equipping it?
if you mean the thing where you equip it then walk back up to it and press interact then yea i tried to but it just didnt do anything because the pop-up also isnt there.
bronze ravine
if you want the menu then equip the weapon then interact again the same way
gloomy pendant
i would send a screenshot but ig no pictures.
but yea it just doesnt work whatsoever.
royal moss
does addled defiance (chaos' legendary boon that gives +1 death defiance) work with stubborn defiance?
manic bobcat
Yes
You get one extra DD
Bonus point: you can also get extra DD with Athena with special conditions also.
winter harbor
I’ve only been offered chaos’ legendary once and it didn’t count for the prophecy because I died very shortly after during the curse
royal moss
and does blood frenzy (ares's boon that enhances damage after death defiance) stack?
gloomy pendant
ahhhhh this is so annoying
im sure im doing something wrong but i have absolutely zero clue what im doing wrong.
manic bobcat
What is?
gloomy pendant
could someone help me with a pretty stupid question? im trying to figure out how...
this
manic bobcat
and does blood frenzy (ares's boon that enhances damage after death defiance) st...
I don't have a source for this. But from my personal experience, it does not.
How many blood do you have?
gloomy pendant
4
manic bobcat
Hmm
gloomy pendant
ya
manic bobcat
So you unlocked all weapons, do one more run, talked to Skelly?
If this is immediately after you unlock all weps you need to do one more.
gloomy pendant
i dont think ive done another run, i'll try that.
gloomy pendant
ok sick it worked thanks!
boreal dirge
quick question does anyone here finished hades wanna try transistor ?
astral swift
I do but am like a few bucks short to buy it on the switch 
boreal dirge
I wish u the best
silver kestrel
Thinking back on it I played Transistor pretty similar to how I play Hades: ignoring half the features and simply stunlocking enemies by slamming a sword into the ground repeatedly.
boreal dirge
I just picked it up and its reaaaly difficult at the beginning and i have no idea what the story is
quiet gull
Transistor is....... very different from Hades
silver kestrel
Just pay close attention to all the wordplay and it will get way easier when you have more function combos.
quiet gull
The story is intentionally obfuscated
silver kestrel
Crash [Breach][Jaunt] was literally all I used for 99% of the game. I didn't even use my TURN I just wailed on everything.
boreal dirge
I started playing hades with a keyboard and I tried the same for transistor but it was nearly impossible so i switched to dualshock and both transistor and hades was much easier
tepid compass
guys does triple jab on spear affect speed, damage or range ?
faint moon
Definitely range because it's like you're attacking with three spears next to each other at the same time
silver kestrel
Think of it as Hermes rewarding you for getting quick quicker than your projectiles
runic cipher
Is there anywhere to buy hades related merch?
manic bobcat
the official store?
runic cipher
Do they have one of those? Havent looked haha
narrow hemlock
Thats supposed to be a sad face
settings → text and images → uncheck automatically convert emoticons to emoji
winter harbor
I remapped cast to alt and special to right mouse button and that seemed to do the trick
I tried out mapping cast to other letters but that led to me looking at my boons or codex in the middle of combat
distant lotus
How many people nominated Hades for a steam award?
winter harbor
Yeah, but since casts are inherently limited, I like putting it somewhere else convenient instead
Sadly chaos has not been kind to me with giving me more bloodstones on cast builds
(I’m running persuasion too, so it’s just bad luck on my end)
brisk trail
Not hephaestus tho, he ugly
brisk trail
I'm just joking on how everyone looks beautiful
maiden urchin
i have MMB dash, RMB special, spacebar cast
brisk trail
That'd be hmm... room challenges like in enter the gungeon?
stable meadow
Or maybe the primordial god tarturus
tepid compass
make romance with milf nyx
boreal dirge
apollon is a must add imo
stable meadow
Maybe daggers as a weapon
Possibly adding different statuses for each different aspect
boreal dirge
an axe could be good too
stable meadow
Yeah
tepid compass
a whip
stable meadow
Could be maybe able to switch from two handed slow axe to two hatchets that hit really fast
brisk trail
The current weapon roster has good variety, it'd need to be something unique
stable meadow
Could be maybe able to switch from two handed slow axe to two hatchets that hit ...
This possibly
Kinda like switch axe from monster hunter world
Less like stances and more like chosing to change forms mid combo
stable meadow
Same
Please let there be dlc
Because its too good of a game to not have any dlc
Or extra content from updates
Post launch
silver kestrel
Supergiant has never done a series before so short of giving us a Hades II down the line, if there were ever a huge content update post release I would be wishing for a secret postgame multiplayer mode (either cooperative or competitive) with the other Hades kids, Melinoe, Makaria, and Ploutos.
(Honestly I could see the makings of competitive modes themed after each of them since their respective themes are basically Ghosts, Glory, and Gold.)
silver kestrel
Oh hey there's an idea.
stable meadow
I hope they read this
Because discord chat can give a lot of ideas that could be really good
narrow hemlock
there used to be a feedback channel, this sort of stuff was in it frequently
they closed it down once early access was over since that was its primary purpose
they've said they did read every thing that was posted into feedback
narrow hemlock
not necessarily
stable meadow
I get that
narrow hemlock
just because they saw all the feedback doesn't mean they'll act on it
stable meadow
But it could happen
narrow hemlock
usually supergiant moves on to a new project. as much as fans would like to exist in a specific world of one of their games, they like to act on other ideas for other concepts
it would be neat if they expand hades since there is a lot of demand for it but just keep your expectations realistic 🙂
stable meadow
Yeah
silver kestrel
At this point it seems more possible to convince them to make sequels to some of their games than to make full expansion. Although both would be new territory for their company.
mortal isle
The feeling of having a busted run is so nice 🤤
stable meadow
At this point i feel like its in my top three rouge likes
Yeah
Thats why i play rouge likes
mortal isle
The Aspect of ||Beowulf|| is my favorite shield
Zeus/Dio run
Amazing
Plus I have a good cast build
With duos
narrow hemlock
the goal with hades was never to offer continued updates like other games of the genre though, hades is still above all a narrative game with a specific story to tell
stable meadow
Also what secret weapon aspects are worth it
mortal isle
||Beowulf||
silver kestrel
I've had a busted run with all of them so
mortal isle
For sure
True
The one for the bow is pretty gud too
And the fist
I love them all pretty much.
I’m not a fan of the one for the spear or rail
stable meadow
Spear one doesn't seem like it would do much
mortal isle
It’s too heavy for me
silver kestrel
Even Guan Yu had a busted run where I was able to curse enemies and backstab them by tossing extra wide charge attack hurricanes through them, rapid fire.
stable meadow
Gun one is broken (if you are really lucky ) with artimes attack
stable meadow
Yeah
mortal isle
But Zeus attack boon makes it fun
stable meadow
Bow does the same to me
stable meadow
But it has internal attack cool down
silver kestrel
Still managed to get to 100 HP even with the cuts to max HP on Guan Yu. Finished every area with max health due to the crazy amount of charge attacks I was able to launch with the hammer for it.
mortal isle
Same and true
silver kestrel
Rail is my least favorite weapon so far but the hidden aspect is still wild. Turn it into a extremely rapid attacker.
stable meadow
I feel like with the hammers the non secret aspect are mostly the same but for the secret aspects they feel so much different
silver kestrel
I'm confused as to why certain aspects get unique hammer abilities and yet some of them just disable hammer abilities that don't work with them instead of changing them into a unique one.
stable meadow
Yeah
mortal isle
Facts.
stable meadow
Also could you get triple bomb with cluster bomb on gun
real fossil
triple and cluster are incompatible
stable meadow
Nooooooo
silver kestrel
And uh, I was afraid to try it but why is the "you get hit by your own special" hammer still offered on Eris Rail?
mortal isle
Same
real fossil
yep hazard bomb is offered with eris
mortal isle
But for 100% I’ll have to take it lol
real fossil
it's a meme but u can i-frame in it to get the boost lmao
stable meadow
What are the unique ones for gun tho
silver kestrel
That's such a Hermes flex.
stable meadow
Specific to certain aspects
mortal isle
Ooo
real fossil
only the secret aspects get unique hammers
real fossil
for which weapon?
silver kestrel
... Delta Chamber on Rail because I don't like the manual reload when it only has a bonus on one aspect.
stable meadow
Like fists or gun
real fossil
hmm for eris rocket and cluster or triple is broken
silver kestrel
Fists aspects are so different there aren't many hammers that I always want to take.
real fossil
delta is good too
glass shell
is there any strategy to get more boons of a specific god in your run?
stable meadow
Luck
real fossil
for fist i always like the more damage to armor
secret fists i like explosive upper and the one that lets u chain dash combos
stable meadow
My last wining sword run i had like twenty (probably like 15 ) athena boons
silver kestrel
Keepsake, reroll rooms (but can you give up rerolling boons?), shops, uh, that mirror ability that gives greater chance for only certain kinds of rooms?
stable meadow
Magic ^
silver kestrel
Just make sacrifices in real life to your chosen deity.
stable meadow
ok
silver kestrel
It's super easy for any amateur haruspex
stable meadow
So money in hades + sword
foggy isle
holy ||guan yu|| is fun but like I have ||15 health||...
gleaming granite
I just survived because ||Of the duo boon that refills your HP when you don't have a DD left||
ashen gull
hello Im new
tepid compass
is one spec better between boons reroll and door reroll ?
winter harbor
I prefer boons reroll
I’m not that picky about which gods I get offered in a run, and even then, you can use keepsakes to force it
But if I’m going for a certain build after I have my gods, I like rerolling so I get stuff that’s actually good for that build
carmine ravine
better get hella gud buffs than more normal ones
stoic aurora
yeah combination of Dark Foresight + god keepsakes already does what Authority does but better
manic bobcat
hello Im new
Hi new I'm fox
limpid crown
Can you family share Hades?
gloomy pendant
yup!
limpid crown
Hmm. Probably got issues on my side.
drowsy mauve
YOu can't get duo's from trials but can you get duos from trials if you reroll?
quiet gull
I believe you cant get Duos at all
drowsy mauve
well I mean what about other god combinations
like my trial was artemis/poseidon but im going for heart rend
doesnt make sense that I can't get a duo there
pliant sparrow
i think u can get duos if its another god combo
drowsy mauve
hestia/artemis feels way better than eris but idk
wintry spindle
Does ||Jury Summons add time to the Lambent Plume timer?||
carmine ravine
hestia/artemis feels way better than eris but idk
hestia cant buff constant thunder strikes while getting 2k crits on specials
drowsy mauve
Feels like hestia is way stronger early but eris probably takes off later
halcyon minnow
do you get anything, like an acheivement if you have a certain escape streak
real fossil
not really an achievement but u get special a title in the victory screen
for example || decathalete || at 10 streak
halcyon minnow
okay because i have a 22 win streak and im gonna do a 50 heat run so i didint know if i should complete a streak acheivement firts
carmine ravine
my most received titles is "favored and envied" and "duo digger"
barren dew
||dont you love it when you use fated persuasion but it gives you the exact same boons||
brisk trail
sometimes u just gotta take the L
winter harbor
And rerolling for rarity is a gamble
drowsy mauve
First tiem doing ||EM4|| here we gooo
barren dew
i was just trying to get the boon that makes enemies explode at 10 chill
drowsy mauve
got em
quiet gull
GG
silver kestrel
With Guan Yu I think you're not supposed to be afraid of going for max HP increases despite their effectiveness also being reduced. Because I tell you I had very little problem with Hades once he couldn't one shot me with one of his bigger hits.
inner swift
outta curiosity will this game get mod support?
manic bobcat
define mod support?
The devs already stated that they can't official support modding due to logistics reasons. However, the game code and whatnot are not obscured or hidden, so the modders can easily look into that.
inner swift
oh i just mean that i can download mods from the steam workshop XD
sometime in the future
meant to say can i
manic bobcat
I can't speak for the devs, but I wouldn't hold my breath for steam workshop
manic bobcat
afaik, Steam Workshop means some kind of integration with Steam, which I highly doubt would happen.
inner swift
all good my man cheers for answering anyway
manic bobcat
yeah. gl! we do have some qol mods out there
if you look hard enough
but content mods, idk
inner swift
its all good games still got alot of content anyway
manic bobcat
yeah, just wanted to let you know what's available 😄
green maple
guys which cast also pairs well with hera excluding festive fog
manic bobcat
passion flare
manic bobcat
take a guess?
manic bobcat
bingo
green maple
sorry, i am so bad at gues..
wait what
the
short shotgun-ish attack?
never thought that would be a good choice tbh
green maple
what happens if i lodge and shoot the shotgun ish
ohhh
so its more like shotgun ish attack but you get to shoot the whole gun out
manic bobcat
yeah. just try it out. if you want to go all in, take the reloading cast
instead of the ammo one
green maple
i already do the stygian when i use hera
it feels amazing when arty's legendary or chaos comes in with more stones
nocturne ginkgo
I haven't been able to play this since about febuary and in the last couple weeks I have logged so much time
and seen all the new content
This still stands as one of the greatest games I've ever played
and I've been playing since lernie was the last boss lol
cold surge
Does anyone have those days where they start off strong and then do worse later on in the day? Although in this run I haven't gotten enough boons because I switched away from Dark Foresight
winter harbor
I have one successful cast build and now I take casts much more readily
tbf, athena already already took my dash and I had to get the poseidon boon
silver kestrel
I have terrible runs when I'm trying to get bounties but have excellent and fast runs when I'm just trying to farm and things get out of hand accidentally.
autumn charm
Yea I have terrible runs too when I try to get the bounties
mortal isle
I swear getting Hypnos past the unlocked heart is taking forever
silver kestrel
"Yeah sure lemme just take my least favorite weapon because it has dark thirst. Lemme just switch the mirror around so I can maybe incentivize squeezing some extra darkness out of this run or maybe buy a diamond/titanblood in styx. Lemme just take all the trash boons that give more items and get chaos and all that. Oh gods what is happening? I'm sorry dad!"
rare obsidian
Heart rend OP, love to see it
Also yeah advancing the hypnos plot seems to take forever
silver kestrel
Does the Hypnos plot advance quicker if you let Asterius kill you as a miniboss? Ha
rare obsidian
I saw in the beta patch notes that they are making those triggers more likely, but I doubt that'll hit the switch anytime soon, they'll probably bundle that in with cross saves so they minimize the amount they go through nintendo QA
+65% gold or 70% attack from master eggman? So many choices...
cold surge
8 heat has been hard but sometimes doable for me, not even sure how I’d do 16 heat
carmine ravine
just take the easy heats
rare obsidian
Yeah once you get above 10 you've gotta start putting points into your hard labors and jury summons eventually
cold surge
Im not looking forward to tight deadline, I’ve never tried it but seems like too much pressure. I can generally clear under 36 mins (1 heat in tight deadline) but I haven’t gone for time at all, and how much tight deadline is a problem will depend greatly on my weapon and boons
Hard labor is going to suck, I have tried lasting consequences
rare obsidian
Tight deadline isn't normally a problem for me
cold surge
Even 1 level of lasting consequences suck
rare obsidian
Maybe with GUN
cold surge
What level of tight deadline do you run?
rare obsidian
Also sup bacchus fancy seeing you here
cold surge
Hey I joined a couple days ago
rare obsidian
Level 1 normally like a coward
silver kestrel
Just give an offering to Hermes before you start and everything will be fine, cos!
cold surge
Since it’s the official discord and all that
Is it just me or is heightened security way harder than some heat factors that cost more heat?
silver kestrel
which one is that again?
cold surge
Because of how it affects vases heightened security is more likely to kill me than extreme measures 3
Increased trap damage
brisk trail
cold surge
5 times
brisk trail
I was so close
cold surge
(+400%)
silver kestrel
I suppose. I don't ascribe much heat value to something that can be overturned by a single common boon though.
cold surge
Is it Sure Footing just to check?
brisk trail
But then I didn’t have anymore respawns and he went into his second phase and I died 😦
silver kestrel
Yes but I honestly have no idea how they interact with their fomulas.
cold surge
Same I run into traps way too much
brisk trail
trying 32 heat atm but not very well
cold surge
I do feel myself improving, but 16 heat feels far off for me right now
Still doing 8 heat with all weapons
Cleared bow sword and rail at 8 so far
I did clear shield but somehow the game didn’t save it, two people saw me do it but the game somehow didn’t record that, the dialogue next run was identical for the boss fights to last run so something was weird, I did that run yesterday
pliant sparrow
have u turned up em/forced overtime?
cold surge
I do EM3 and maxed convenience fee
pliant sparrow
tight deadline isnt too much of a problem if you pause game when making decisions
cold surge
I need to get better at elysium boss and not take too much damage to hydra and lava in hydra fight
rare obsidian
EM3 and middle management are my free 8 heat
pliant sparrow
forced overtime, benefits package, middle management, underworld customs are all things that dont overtly affect u
rare obsidian
Though EM3 kicks my ass in fist runs a lot
pliant sparrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGl1vVnFPsw
this is a good guide
cold surge
I have seen that, I should see it again, I did fail fists
rare obsidian
I hate underworld customs, I keep low rolling it :(
cold surge
EM3 and convenience fee has worked for 4 weapons for me
I suck at spear in general and don’t like it
pliant sparrow
i never notice anything when i go level one benefits package and turn on middle management
cold surge
Doesn’t middle management make the megagorgon mini boss much harder
mortal isle
Anyone know the trick of trigger Hypnos dialogue?
pliant sparrow
kill both in under 5 secs
rare obsidian
That's one floor out of like 50 though
Heat levels that affect normal mobs make more rooms harder
winter harbor
I got massive aphrodite special and hazard bomb on railgun
pliant sparrow
nice what aspect? and why isnt it eris?
winter harbor
Just the basic zag aspect
so the special's up like 446%
even with just the dadhammer, it was doing a lot of damage to enemies in tartarus
neon dove
I could imagine, that's fantastic
rare obsidian
Hazard bomb + five bomb is utterly hilarious
cold surge
I need to use my companions more, although bosses have moved out of thanatos’s aura
I may switch to Meg
But when Thanatos hits it’s huge
winter harbor
the funny thing is that I originally was trying for an attack focused build with dionysus, but I didn't get any good hammers for attack
neon dove
Meg is better if you are concerned about getting it quick, imo
cold surge
Thanatos missed the final boss once, I still won but that was annoying
neon dove
If you're running an arty build it may be better
If you have a demeter build, I'm sure Than's would be prime
rare obsidian
Bouldy is great, free 150 gold per run
neon dove
Help with securing that big hit
rare obsidian
And with the right boons, he pays for himself!
cold surge
Oh you mean giving him nectar lol
winter harbor
have you gotten to the locked heart at least and opened up the favor?
cold surge
Not his companion
winter harbor
right, bouldy can basically pay for itself with additional spindles
neon dove
Yeah, I've seen mixed reception speeds. I got Sis long before Meg
runic cipher
Same @cold surge
neon dove
Did you reunlock the admin chambers yet?
winter harbor
Have you gotten close to nyx yet and opened up admin chambers?
runic cipher
I have opened chambers but dont have a bond with nyx yet
neon dove
You just need enough to open the archive
cold surge
Is that admin chamber
neon dove
Yesh
winter harbor
you don't necessarily need to bond with nyx, just get close enough that she'll tell you the contract stuff
neon dove
^
runic cipher
Thats what im missing. Good to know
rare obsidian
Arty/poseidon duo, festive fog, and flurry cast is lol
neon dove
What weapon?
rare obsidian
Talos fist
neon dove
😄
rare obsidian
I'm learning that poseidon special is not great on talos fist!
neon dove
lol
I made a megamistake and took poseidon special on rail after getting cluster bomb.
Was definitely drinking too much rum at the time
rare obsidian
That's always a danger
neon dove
I used it and had to pause for a quick face-on-wall bashing
rare obsidian
Hmm, ten festive fogs makes it tough to see anything
neon dove
Oh ARTY duo, I read that and heard "aphro"
Arty+Poseidon duo gives you double fogs, then just need an extra 2
rare obsidian
I've been buying stuff from the well
winter harbor
at least demeter can be good for cast focused builds
rare obsidian
I already have chill on cast
neon dove
Could you imagine. 10x demeter lasers
rare obsidian
I took the demeter keepsake to try and fish for the arty/demeter duo but after I closed the keepsake menu I realized that I had festive fog already
Short term memory is great, no?
neon dove
Mm, the best. I can't talk with my poseidon cluster bomb, so
rare obsidian
I wish the codex had daedelus upgrades, I don't remember that one
brisk trail
I’m not very good at knowing what to build 
neon dove
Sometimes it takes time. They didn't come to me right away and I'm still having my mind blown by things people do
rare obsidian
My best runs are mostly by accident tbh
brisk trail
I just started today 
neon dove
I wish the codex had daedelus upgrades, I don't remember that one
Cluster bomb is the one that shoot 5x as many specials on the rail, but they do less damage
cold surge
I need to try underworld customs
neon dove
Whoops
rare obsidian
Thats what I thought
brisk trail
Aegis is my favorite weapon
cold surge
Forced boon selling sounds brutal but I never tried it
rare obsidian
I can see it being utterly chaotic with posiedon on it
neon dove
Yeah, you just need to hunt extra boons for the ones you like ditching. Or build on a reduced build
Like if you run a build with hera-bow or poseidon-sword, you really only need your cast and maybe a few others
rare obsidian
My most memorable run was when I got the zeus/poseidon duo on the hidden bow special with double lightning bolts
neon dove
Oooooo
cold surge
What if all boons offered to sell are ones essential to your run
rare obsidian
It was utterly hilarious
cold surge
Save rerolls for there?
brisk trail
I use Zeus shield 👀
neon dove
My favorite was a dionysus/demeter combo with allllll the dot affects on guan-ti
rare obsidian
Hidden bow special has such bad dps, but that combo like x6'd it
neon dove
Yeah, I always try for Zeus on Rama
cold surge
I got my 8 heat bow clear with hidden bow, Dionysus on special worked for me
neon dove
I use Zeus shield 👀
Classics 🙂
brisk trail
I wanna try branching out for other weapons cause they seem interesting
neon dove
They are, but they can take time to learn
I love a good demeter aspect-fists using the artemis special
rare obsidian
Gah, what a bad well right before the boss :(
Was hoping for an extra cast, no dice
Prolly do the fifth styx chamber and buy out charon. Maybe I'll get another well
What's the minimum number of chambers between wells?
cold surge
Is there a list that lists exact rarities of different rarity levels before any modifiers?
For boons
brisk trail
I might play around some more with the rail
cold surge
Zeus attack on rail is good usually
brisk trail
Either that or the sword
cold surge
I like Poseidon or secret sword best
Poseidon benefits from blood bc of cast damage boost
brisk trail
Ah
cold surge
Poseidon Sword is also great if you happen to pick up exit wounds
But that’s a legendary Artemis boon
cold surge
Oh I mixed it up, I got the legendary that run haha
Extra casts is great on a cast buiod
I didn’t even have legendary boost on I think?
sage depot
Support Fire is so fun lmao
cold surge
Yeah it is
It’s awesome on rail
Especially secret rail
Does anyone know the rarity percentages of boons before modifiers?
It isn’t listed in the wiki
It would be useful to know when rerolling
And also taking stuff that lists a specific modifier for rarity
rare obsidian
Awesome, easy win against redacted
That's heat 9 down on fists
Man I still have another 90ish titans blood to go to max out all weapons
cold surge
Maxing the weapons will take so long 😦
rare obsidian
And I'm all out of prophecies too
Only 8 more ambrosias to max out favors and companions though, so that'll accelerate things a tad
cold surge
Do you all prefer Olympian Favor or Dark Foresight?
The beam attack tracks you so you have to stay right behind the pillar
runic agate
i was entirely behind it and it went though
he was on the bottom and i was on the top
i had such a great ||gilamesh|| run too 😦
granite ether
@runic agate please don't evade the swear filter. Thankyou
granite ether
No, it doesn't count, the 2nd rule of the discord Keep it clean is there for a reason
Ty 
runic agate
i played like a tolilet
sweet prism
weird place to ask
but I just click here? To nominate them, theres no confirm button or anything? I admit 3IQ max for myself lol
bronze stump
damn shackle runs are fun
runic agate
what aspect should i use for my next run?
carmine ravine
yes you can only nominate 1 for each catogory, cant nominate 1 game for all@sweet prism
runic agate
hidden or non hidden
carmine ravine
depends on wep
sweet prism
sweet thank you. As long as it saves that XD I just click it and can click out I assume then?
carmine ravine
what do u even have lol
runic agate
nearly everything
carmine ravine
and when in doubt just follow the thirst
runic agate
meh
sweet prism
sweet sweet thanks!
brisk trail
i mean, all of them are viable
bronze stump
maybe go blitz disk or something (the dark thirst is to heal)
carmine ravine
it gets stale of u play the same wep every time
bronze stump
max dodge run
runic agate
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
sure
i dont have zag gloves maxed
so what weapon?
winter harbor
I got so many gods with synergizing duos in tartarus I never grabbed max hp
bronze stump
what you feel will go fast with room clear
winter harbor
artemis, aphrodite, dionysus, poseidon
also i'm going for a cast build with poseidon sword
runic agate
i mean...... eris.... but ive done 3 eris wins today....
bronze stump
also imagine plume being 1.5% lvl 2 and 2% lvl 3
runic agate
so i;l do...............
winter harbor
it even paid off some, I got exit wounds and heart rend in tartarus
runic agate
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
winter harbor
yeah, I grabbed artemis, hoping for her legendary and took her cast
winter harbor
I love that he cast goes through the shields in elysium
bronze stump
I once had 4 regen casts
brisk trail
regen on a cast build?
bronze stump
I got blessed with also demeter poseidon combo
the one that regen every 3 seconds
I didn't have the poseidon blade at the time
had 20 cast in one enemy before getting the combo (because the combo makes them pierce)
faint flint
how does nourished soul interact with lasting consequences
so like if I have -25% healing
and demeter gives +25 healing
do they cancel out
brisk trail
is the option "||getting stronger after you die||" for losers?
bronze stump
yes they do
faint flint
or is it multiplicative and am I still losing out
winter harbor
RIP lasting consequences 4
neon dove
is the option "||getting stronger after you die||" for losers?
Nope! It's for people who want to enjoy the story while still playing the game
cold surge
@brisk trail I played on God Mode for a while, a while after my first 10 clears I am no longer using it
neon dove
It's like a reverse pact of punishment
cold surge
There is no shame or anything, and I only turned it off bc I discovered it was more fun
It’s like a free mirror upgrade
brisk trail
<@456226577798135808> I played on God Mode for a while, a while after my first 1...
what does it change?
damage reduction iirc
brisk trail
got kinda traumatized after passing so much time against bosses to die and have to go all through again
cold surge
That is correct 4thQueen
I personally started turning it off once I got most of the story
I do have chronic pain and wasn’t sure if I was ever going to turn it off but I tried one day when I was bored
And had a lot into mirror and stuff
I used it to get early blood and other bounties too at first
Mainly blood to unlock weapons
narrow hemlock
at this point i use god mode to offset the difficulty of higher heat runs so thats its more within my range to play. playing high heat without it just.. feels like too much of a chore for me and i enjoy it far less
plush citrus
i really love the way that the god mode doesn't feel condescending or anything, i play games at the end of a long day when my brain is at its numbest and i'm glad there's an option for when i'm not at my most strategic
kinda sucks there's so much shame attached to playing a game in a way that makes it fun for you
rare obsidian
when you get back to the house and hypnos and thanatos are talking
narrow hemlock
people dont like when you play a game different from how they play /shrug
neon dove
And had a lot into mirror and stuff
This is a good point, too. If you're struggling to get resources to give you more flexibility, it's a quick way to rack up more options. Mirror, new weapons...etc. Can always turn it off like Bacchus
zealous wyvern
Hi what is best weapon to invest between shield
and sword
astral swift
>when you get back to the house and hypnos and thanatos are talking <:zagluv:687...
Nothing brings a bigger smile to my face 
especially when you go like 5 runs without any Hypnos dialogue
rare obsidian
It was way more than 5 in this case!
No idea how many more of their little chats I need though before I unlock the heart
brisk trail
i love hypnos but whenever i come home to that it means i don't get to have a convo with than 
narrow hemlock
No idea how many more of their little chats I need though before I unlock the he...
what was the last one you got
brisk trail
that gives you a random buff
astral swift
i love hypnos but whenever i come home to that it means i don't get to have a co...
It's a painful tradeoff
bronze stump
the power of believing
brisk trail
rock
runic agate
||hera||=fun
brisk trail
I think the game Hades got a bit more popularity cause of the series Blood of Zeus
runic agate
the what?
neon dove
I've never heard of that
runic agate
same
bronze stump
Me nether
runic agate
also
dont you love it when you use a reroll and it rerolls into the same thing but lower rareity
neon dove
Wouldn't be surprised for the community that does know it, though
bronze stump
Hades got the popularity being so wanted for over 2 years
runic agate
ive literally never heard of that ever
neon dove
Oh, legit
narrow hemlock
I think the game Hades got a bit more popularity cause of the series Blood of Ze...
nah more people came to know blood of zeus was a thing because of hades