yeah, the voice of chaos tells me everything
#h1-discussion
green maple
zenith pasture
sword is my favorite weapon but idk i just often go for artemis
green maple
sword
brisk trail
fellow sword liker
zenith pasture
never wondered what was the best aspect for it
karmic cradle
i go for spear, gloves and sheild, but mostly only spear w/ BIG hopes on triple stabby
brisk trail
hidden sword aspect is my favorite weapon in this game
zenith pasture
pose sword and do a cast build
hmm might do that thanks!! ❤️
green maple
npnp
brisk trail
Poseidon sword is definitely the best nonhidden aspect
green maple
misty uh can you just spoiler tag and tell me how to get ||arthur||
green maple
yeah i go nem
brisk trail
|| 1. unlock guan yu 2. invest at least 5 Titan blood into sord aspects 3. wait (keep doing runs) for nyx to give you the waking phrase||
brisk trail
np
green maple
i think ive done 5
since aspects are being discussed
whats the benefit of hera's aspect
idk how lodging cast works
brisk trail
the cast basically fires with your attack
brisk trail
it's interesting
brisk trail
yeah
green maple
COOL
brisk trail
Dionysus cast is big damage but it takes a while to come back
green maple
yeah
north pier
dio cast is good once you get the right buffs, namely auto-return
green maple
huh?
north pier
but if you don't get buffs then it's pretty annoying
green maple
so i just have stygian soul
quiet gull
Dio is better with sygian, yes. Hera bow gets nuts when you have Infernal, though, since triple casts kills things right quick
brisk trail
I love how stygian and infernal both have their niches
still think infernal is generally better though
molten nymph
infernal is always better on paper i think
even with dio you have 3 casts/5s
but not needing to worry about fetching your cast stone feels really good
brisk trail
awesome
hades tower defense
winter harbor
Stygian is high risk, high reward
better hope you get extras from artemis and/or chaos
brisk trail
I wish there was a sound or something that signified it was recharged
quiet gull
You don't NEED extra stones with Stygian, like you dont need them with a cast build with Infernal. They do help, though
brisk trail
I like ruthless reflex but I gotta pray to hermes
molten nymph
they're big though
its basically a +100% to your main damage source
as opposed to infernal's + 33%
*assuming you run cast builds
north pier
cast builds always seem insanely powerful when they happen to me
brisk trail
exit wounds poseidon sord
limber lily
Im about to try a cast focused build with poseidon's aspect on the sword with artemis boons. Does her exit wound damage for every blood stone removed or it only deals dmg once regardless of the number of stones stuck on the enemy?
radiant estuary
I think it's per bloodstone
limber lily
Thanks!
rapid forum
exit wound + Arty legendary = good deeps
rapid forum
yay
brisk trail
First clear. Woot.
rapid forum
ay gj
severe flare
Hi! I've gotten 3 legendary boons in just 2 days.
when buy from Charon shop
Yesterday I got Black Out. I purged it for the achievement after Tartarus.
Today, I get it again from Charon shop in Elysium.
I also get Bad News from Charon shop in Tartarus - a new run.
"Boons that are rewarded from Erebus encounters, mini-boss encounters (both types are denoted with a small skull on the chamber preview) or bought at a higher price from Charon in the Temple of Styx are more likely to have higher rarities." - https://hades.gamepedia.com/Boons
brisk trail
Family favorites vs privilege status?
Dark foresight vs Olympian favor?
real fossil
i mostly use priveleged cuz i like taking boons that proc status curses but there are some build where it
somewhat hard to get the curses up
radiant estuary
Priveleged Status if you get synergistic boons for it, Family Favorite outside that
real fossil
like idk maybe when use arty attack/spec cuz the marked curse is kinda weird
radiant estuary
Dark Foresight for general play, Olympian Favor for getting certain builds/farming the prophecies for Legendary/Duo boons
brisk trail
Is abyssal blood better than boiling blood?
radiant estuary
Maybe in a more defensive build?
Thought TBH it doesn't seem like it's anything an Aphrodite boon can't do a bit better
Plus that giant +50% damage bonus form Boiling is a bit too large to ignore IMO
severe flare
Gods' Legacy for legendary/duo boons
green maple
Priviliged for me is usually for arty+dio or deme+dio
exotic furnace
does anyone else pick the god that you least like in the trial of the gods, just to hear 2 of their dialogues? :P
green maple
LMAO
exotic furnace
:D
dusk mantle
I always pick Demeter first if she's there. Her trial is the worst.
winter harbor
Aphrodite might be even worse
Tough choice in a trial between Demeter and Aphrodite
brisk trail
Nah, Demeter is the outlier.
Those freezing vortexes are beyond huge and they last for days. Aphrodite's heart is sneaky but it can be evaded reliably.
exotic furnace
i actually pick aphrodite for an easy victory
those hearts are easy to dodge
i mean pick agaisnt aphrodite, but i also do that because i love aphrodite xD
pulsar bane
hey 👋🏻
in the beginning of some runs , hades talk and and show a ward like : family, surface, domain, rivers, belong, learn , walking, and so many other. what does it mean ?
green maple
Idk tbh
green maple
And about the trials
Damn
Demeter hasnt been difficult to me
She and Athena are the ones that i immediately take for the trial
carmine ravine
in the beginning of some runs , hades talk and and show a ward like : family, su...
this is mostly flashbacks to explain zag motives
bronze stump
wait what does dark foresight do? (It never seems to happen or I just don't know how it works)
dark scroll
Which one is that?
bronze stump
raises toy chance for (Room? it just shows the orb to go to a room) including fountains, hammers, money and pom
dark scroll
Well more boons, less darkness and such.
bronze stump
oh
dark scroll
you got 2 pools, darkness, gems, keys etc. and then boons, hammers etc
If you reroll such a room you can also only reroll it to the same
bronze stump
ok
floral hazel
Had a weird dream about this game hahah
quick bone
Lol meg now seems so much nicer after ||encountering her other sisters||
❤️ simping for meg
ripe herald
❤️ simping for meg
kween
exotic furnace
meg is hot
dusty venture
you got something against Dusa?
deep geyser
Nah I'm just saying they're my top 2 pics
raw flare
So is Thanatos tho
Not go into Uncharted area.. but, I take it we not gonna talk about Nyx ? Oki
raw flare
Had a weird dream about this game hahah
Do tell !
pastel swift
Question: || Is Charon's sack of Obol offered at random or is there some way to trigger it? || (Spoiler tags just in case)
Its not story related but I don't want to spoil a mechanic.
faint flume
random
pastel swift
Gotcha. Dang, that makes getting that achievement pretty rough.
floral hazel
Ah? You’d like to know about my dream?
tame quest
Gotcha. Dang, that makes getting that achievement pretty rough.
You don’t have to have two back to back runs with it to get the achievement. You just need to complete it with both attempts
exotic furnace
is it possible to look at previous victory screens?
floral hazel
I’m not sure but if you can go into that one room I forgot the name of you can look at past run thingies
tacit ember
can u get keepsake form hades
real fossil
nope but u can check any relevant info in the || admin room once u unlock it ||
exotic furnace
i see. thanks
real fossil
@tacit ember || yes after gifting him 2 nectars which can only be done by beating him first||
tacit ember
waht happend if u use hes keepsake agengst hades in the fight
real fossil
pls tag spoiler
spark steeple
Any word on PC/Switch cross saves? Still supposed to come this year?
real fossil
also to answer the question just unique dialogue about redacted getting pissed
tacit ember
ahha yes dialoge
spark steeple
All the results on Google are from Sep/Oct
tacit ember
okkkk
tiny grove
All the results on Google are from Sep/Oct
They said in in-game patch notes that they're working on it still. There's a test branch version for PC released today, and that will be a stepping stone for cross saves.
spark steeple
They said in in-game patch notes that they're working on it still. There's a tes...
Ah bummer. Shipping my PC overseas, so going to be Switch only for a couple months. Was thinking of buying on switch during black friday.
tiny grove
Unfortunate :(
spark steeple
Yeah, I love the game but I don't feel like starting over again. Thanks for the answer anyway!
brisk trail
When jawless Paul beats hades hands free, is he playing god mode?
steep tusk
Losing to hades is always so soul crushing
brisk trail
got greater recall three runs in a row... now if only this could show up when i'm running a cast build...
faint flume
Hades is in so many categories and I'm so happy about that
I hope Carrion wins best debut game tho
although Phasmophobia will beat it probably
bronze ravine
I'm not exactly up-to-date but I thought tlou2 has been bashed since it came out?
atomic seal
it is
if it win goty by some reason
prepare for many people grabbing pitchfork
lmao
faint flume
for sure, I don't see it winning frankly, not with the competition it's got
charred geyser
I wanna see SGG release official numbers on that one, at least back from early access surely they must have been collecting some stats. and if not in the public playerbase, then at least internally...
atomic seal
during early access it took me 14 hr around
charred geyser
All the discussions about different combinations of boons though make me wonder, have they ever said anything about adding a free-run mode purely for build testing where you can determine which boons come when yourself..? (or does that maybe even happen at some point and I'm just not there yet?)
tiny grove
Probably the realm of mods I imagine
charred geyser
yeah now that I think about it, sounds like the sort of thing that the modding community will end up with. Gonna have to get on that. At some point maybe in the next life where I don't have to work to earn money 😂
carmine ravine
for sure, I don't see it winning frankly, not with the competition it's got
fr, but you can find some guy thinking the game is actual goty material in this same server
bronze ravine
I fulfilled all the prophecies! 
exotic furnace
that is a cool emote!
sturdy schooner
Gotcha. Dang, that makes getting that achievement pretty rough.
Whats the achievment for that?
Earn loyalty card?
fluid dust
whats the best boon
cloud apex
Divine dash
brisk trail
You can hear the difference
pliant sparrow
its just muscle memory
cloud apex
Animation is also different so
pliant sparrow
which aspect u using?
cloud apex
You won't. It's a rhythm thing
Also worth noting that regular attacks and dash strikes both have their own power shot timings
Dash strike one comes off quicker
Most definitely
Regular dash strike is 50, power shot 60
Not to mention power shots come off quicker than generic full charge
(or was it 40-50? forgot a bit)
quaint hatch
Names a spoiler
Tag pls
Power shot is only really important on zag bow
Hera cares more about casts
Chiron cares more about special
Secret charges too slow and that will get you in danger, also it does enough damage either way
earnest grail
Hey, does anyone have the transparent asset of the dialog box ? I'm searching a way to get it but I haven't found anything for the moment
brisk trail
these youtubers doing high heat runs, are they on God mode or is God mode turned off?
quaint hatch
If you do end level stuff or especially speed running god mode is a no no
green maple
Hewwo guys
quaint hatch
For personal entertainment it's obvs no problem
green maple
Popped in before going to sleep
How can i get the gun aspect and the fist aspect?
I have all the hiddens besides them
quaint hatch
That's In the pinned comment
halcyon minnow
anyone else feel the game gets to easy after the first few escape attempts. im on heat 17 and i still get through the game without useing a single death defiance
quaint hatch
Do 32
green maple
HUHHHHH
quaint hatch
That should change your mind
halcyon minnow
yeah but it becomes such a grind
green maple
Yeah
maiden urchin
The bounties stop at 20 anyway
quaint hatch
That's the nature of roguelites m8
green maple
Mhm
halcyon minnow
i wish i could pump the heat up to 20 and if i escape i get the rewards for the lower levels
maiden urchin
you do
quaint hatch
You get better at the game and unlock stuff that makes you more powerful
So the game becomes easier at lower levels
maiden urchin
well like if you do 20 you get the rewards for whatever your current bounty level is
but you could just do 20 20 times
if you wanted
green maple
Pog
quaint hatch
i wish i could pump the heat up to 20 and if i escape i get the rewards for the ...
You only get the bounty for the lowest level
green maple
Anyways
halcyon minnow
i know
quaint hatch
So if you play 32 you get the reward for 17 first, the 18 and so on
You lose out on nothing
green maple
Does the ||asterius talk|| have to be done with malphon and the ||zeus|| talk done with exagryph?
brisk trail
can you still jump back to lower heat and get bounties?
green maple
I mean
maiden urchin
yes
quaint hatch
Does the ||asterius talk|| have to be done with malphon and the ||zeus|| talk do...
He has to mention a certain dialogue line with malphon equipped
green maple
You get a heat 1 reward
quaint hatch
But the ||awakening phrase|| can be gotten with any weapon
brisk trail
oh, i get it
green maple
Thanks
brisk trail
so if i go for 1, the rewards will have been claimed
green maple
Mhm
brisk trail
but i can still jump back down to 2
green maple
Yeah
brisk trail
high heat scares me, 12 is the most ive done so far
brisk trail
it's crazy they can do all that without god mode
quaint hatch
I do the grind
Gets me used to the game
brisk trail
tho wanna try 32 for the lolz
halcyon minnow
i recommend adding the harder boss fights it adds more variety
brisk trail
would probs die in tartarus
quaint hatch
On high heats EM4 actually isn't really played
brisk trail
i've done EM4 once
quaint hatch
Everything up until EM3 makes the fights arguably easier
But with a lot of the modifiers at once EM4 is too time consuming
brisk trail
I'm still trying to figure out they do all that without god mode
halcyon minnow
practice
quaint hatch
Not getting hit
brisk trail
how can we tell God mode is turned off on their videos?
green maple
Just yes
brisk trail
they def get hit
quaint hatch
It's very visible in the game
quaint hatch
they def get hit
That's a joke m8
halcyon minnow
its not bad
quaint hatch
where is it visible in game?
Idk never used it lol
I think there's a symbol next to the heat counter or in you status bar
quaint hatch
Don't crap on god mode
green maple
I like going through all the craziness by my own
quaint hatch
It's good for people who wanna experience the game but aren't as versed om rogulites or video games I'm general
brisk trail
^
quaint hatch
It's not about improving it's about enabling
brisk trail
It took me till 48% before my first hades clear... so it's not a handout, not everyone is pro
quaint hatch
Don't judge it badly just because you don't need it
brisk trail
and I got to elysium before I turned it on the first time
halcyon minnow
whats god mode?
green maple
It increases defense every death iirc
brisk trail
its a scaling damage reduction that starts at 20% and goes up by 2% each time you die
halcyon minnow
oh makes sense
green maple
Wait then is 100% technically possible
brisk trail
it caps at 80%
quaint hatch
It increases defense every death iirc
Damage resistance
green maple
Oh
green maple
It would be interesting if dodge chance goes 100%
quaint hatch
Damage resistance is calculated reductive multiplicative
green maple
quaint hatch
Dodge chance goes up to a 100%
green maple
HOW
flat vapor
dodge chance is additive, you can get 100%
green maple
I mean like
brisk trail
is 100% dodge a perfect dodge?
quaint hatch
Ruthless reflex, zag fists, lambent plume
green maple
Is a 100% dodge run possible
brisk trail
so you dodge everything?
green maple
Omg.....
quaint hatch
It's not always 100% because ruthless reflex needs to be active
halcyon minnow
hermes keepsake can get you to 70 plus his boon is 90
quaint hatch
So you need to dodge an attack before and the time is limited
thick oar
Finally
quaint hatch
Also second wind with smoldering air helps
thick oar
Took 20 tries but I finally killed hades GG
green maple
SPOILER OMG
quaint hatch
is the reflex dodge better than the extra dash?
Usually not
halcyon minnow
i go with extra
green maple
Spoiler tag names pls
quaint hatch
More dashes is more I frames
So guaranteed invulnerability
quaint hatch
Spoiler tag names pls
What
green maple
I mean
thick oar
Games literally called hades who do u think the final boss is gonna be 😂
brisk trail
why is this channel no spoilers also when we have #h1-for-new-players
green maple
Z5013 posted that one thing so
quaint hatch
Tag the boss name
green maple
Lelz
quaint hatch
Games literally called hades who do u think the final boss is gonna be 😂
Don't think for others
|| on both sides
green maple
Hmmm anyways yeah let me get back to bedddddd
brisk trail
why is this channel no spoilers also when we have #h1-for-new-players
green maple
Later bouldy
quaint hatch
why is this channel no spoilers also when we have <#725021347968712724>
Read the channel description
green maple
why is this channel no spoilers also when we have <#725021347968712724>
Then why not when we have #h1-story-discussion
brisk trail
why is this channel no spoilers also when we have #h1-for-new-players
quaint hatch
Hades discussion and new players are spoiler limited zones
brisk trail
then what do we talk about here versus in #h1-for-new-players
halcyon minnow
on another note what do you guys think about the final area killing speedruns
brisk trail
i'm confused
quaint hatch
So there are bound to be people in here that aren't as far
It's less strict than #h1-for-new-players
thick oar
@halcyon minnow the final ones for cerb bag?
quaint hatch
Heat f.e. isn't a spoiler here
halcyon minnow
@thick oar yeah
brisk trail
how is heat not a spoiler, but Hades is?
green maple
Yes.
quaint hatch
You can discuss spoiler stuff
Just tag it
thick oar
I hate the poison guys
quaint hatch
Heat is a spoiler in #h1-for-new-players
quaint hatch
@thick oar can you tag the name pls
brisk trail
why no image permissions?
green maple
Yeah
quaint hatch
Yeah but it's usually tagged
green maple
Yeah but theyre spoiler tagged probs
quaint hatch
Or it should be
green maple
^
halcyon minnow
also what do you guys think about aspect of
green maple
Not that
quaint hatch
Tag pls
green maple
||
brisk trail
anyways, the policing of spoilers in this server is horrid lol
thick oar
I’ll just go ahead and block this tard now ur being an idiot enemies are not spoilers
green maple
This one on both sides
quaint hatch
No it's set
quaint hatch
I’ll just go ahead and block this tard now ur being an idiot enemies are not spo...
Thanks for being insulting and not respecting this channels rules
thick oar
There we go
green maple
Lmao what is this even
halcyon minnow
what do you guys think about rail final aspect
green maple
Uh
quaint hatch
All I did is ask you to tag and you insult me
green maple
I dont have it yet lmao
halcyon minnow
i find its really good
quaint hatch
On pc it's nice for special builds again
halcyon minnow
like with the hammer 250% damage buff its insane
quaint hatch
On switch it's weak compared to the others
I'd argue it's still the worst rail aspect with zag
halcyon minnow
yeah i can see that.
quaint hatch
I wish the damage ramp up but be higher
halcyon minnow
plus 250% damage and 100% ramp
quaint hatch
Try it on 32+
halcyon minnow
what is your least favorite weapon
carmine ravine
the dmg ramp up even with hammer falls in comparison with eris with zeus atk
quaint hatch
Zag sword
exotic furnace
this game should be renamed to "Get rekt by Hades" 
quaint hatch
I have no least favourite weapon
halcyon minnow
yeah hes down their for me
quaint hatch
Also tag the name pls
manic bobcat
Getting over thr Underworld with Zagreus
quaint hatch
I only have a least fav aspect
carmine ravine
i hate ||Gy|| coz i hate squishy
manic bobcat
But but it has infinite hp
halcyon minnow
i am not a fan of the shield
manic bobcat
How can it be squishy
exotic furnace
my least favorite for now is the knuckles because im not good enough to be that close
carmine ravine
anything can have infinite hp with dem/aph duo i guess
just get 6 dashes on hidden fist, ez play
halcyon minnow
i find any dash other than athenas to be inferior
quaint hatch
Can't get hit when you're in dash constantly
carmine ravine
poseidon dash is fine
quaint hatch
Hunter dash and tidal dash are good
halcyon minnow
true they are also good
carmine ravine
athena dash i use if i want go fisting tho
exotic furnace
i pick dashes mostly to kill rats
carmine ravine
u push rats with tidal dash instead
exotic furnace
i mean the little ones
halcyon minnow
btw what is the best call in your opinion i think Aphrodite's is the best
carmine ravine
i go poseidon call if im going EM4
exotic furnace
i like demeters because it makes dodging bosses easier, because the dashes inevitably chills them (oh you meant call)
halcyon minnow
aphrodite can just skip the last 4th of the final boss
quaint hatch
Demeter worst call lol
halcyon minnow
nah Ares is the worst
carmine ravine
its not if u got the blast i guess
halcyon minnow
just worse posidon
carmine ravine
yea ares call is meh
exotic furnace
blast?
carmine ravine
frost blast boon, explosion per 10 stack
exotic furnace
i always try to get aphrodite's or artemis' because they are good against bosses
carmine ravine
its all comes down to whether u want sustain or burst call
quaint hatch
Artemis is just bad aphrodite call
halcyon minnow
yeah aphrodites call with her duo boon with zeus is just an automatic win
quaint hatch
It's the other way around
exotic furnace
what does it do?
halcyon minnow
5% call a second capped at 25
quaint hatch
Zeus call with smoldering is way better
halcyon minnow
nah you can interrupt the final bosses attacks
carmine ravine
aphro with smoldering air is bad yeah
exotic furnace
ah
carmine ravine
just get the legend boon man
exotic furnace
wouldnt call it an auto win but yeah thats good
halcyon minnow
if you constantly intrrupt him with it you never need to dodge away
exotic furnace
i dont even know what poseidon's does lol and ive made almost 100 runs
quaint hatch
Aphro call with smoldering is 100 damage charm every 3 secs
Wow
Much good
exotic furnace
i never pick his boon and especially not his call
halcyon minnow
have you ever used it
carmine ravine
i never pick his boon and especially not his call
this guy never felt exclusive excess
carmine ravine
somehow without poseidon
exotic furnace
it gives you "access" fish
carmine ravine
nope
exotic furnace
i don't pick it, but sometimes he is the only choice
quaint hatch
have you ever used it
Yes that's why I say what I sas
Have you ever use zeus call smoldering air?
halcyon minnow
@quaint hatch if you use aphrodites it stops whatever he is doing so he never attacks you
quaint hatch
Her legendary on aphrodite attack with fists is way better
carmine ravine
exclusive access is minimum boon rarity is epic @exotic furnace
quaint hatch
Ik what charm does
exotic furnace
that's from dionysus right?
carmine ravine
yea just get aphro legend boon
exotic furnace
because i got that one just today
carmine ravine
dio/pos duo
quaint hatch
Problem isn aphrodite call at 1 bar does 100 damage
Have fun with that
Zeus does was more for you
brisk trail
tfw you get exlusive access as your last boon purchase in styx
carmine ravine
poseidon with smoldering 650 dmg per hit
halcyon minnow
its not all about damage
carmine ravine
and immune
halcyon minnow
sometimes its about avoiding it
carmine ravine
this guy must do like 50 min runs
exotic furnace
if you do more damage, you kill him more quickly :P
halcyon minnow
nah 25 min runs usually
quaint hatch
If I roll charm I pick aphrodite legendary with a fast Attack
exotic furnace
(and you have to dodge less)
carmine ravine
rail atk with charm fr
exotic furnace
wow 25 minutes? i usually take 35-40 minutes
quaint hatch
So you get more out of that
carmine ravine
lol how can you get more than 30
exotic furnace
even with a high dps weapon
quaint hatch
Idk
brisk trail
what calls are worth doing strategically instead of just waiting for full bar?
quaint hatch
Zeus, dio
exotic furnace
zeus probably
carmine ravine
zeus or pos call for sustain
quaint hatch
You spam them
exotic furnace
what do you mean by sustain?
brisk trail
is athena just a worse pos?
halcyon minnow
yes
exotic furnace
i dont like zeus powers because the lightning makes it harder to see enemy attacks
carmine ravine
athena is support like hermes call effect
quaint hatch
If you put out more damage than pos call it's better
halcyon minnow
in my opinion the best calls are Poseidon or aphrodite
carmine ravine
athena is a weaker ||hades|| call
quaint hatch
Zeus is the best call
Since it's high damage and already fulfills part of smoldering
Which makes high damage calls busted
carmine ravine
what do you mean by sustain?
sustain is not faocus on big dmg, but small dmg that is collectively big over time
exotic furnace
ah
halcyon minnow
nah but if you dont get smoldering its worse than Aphrodite or Poseidon
quaint hatch
...
quaint hatch
Thinking back to your smoldering aphrodite argument
halcyon minnow
its not bad
brisk trail
i'm still struggling to know what are good builds for each run and such, I just pick what seems good, but the end result often doesn't feel like good synergy
quaint hatch
nah but if you dont get smoldering its worse than Aphrodite or Poseidon
It's not worse lol
carmine ravine
i'm still struggling to know what are good builds for each run and such, I just ...
depends on weps
halcyon minnow
less single target damage
carmine ravine
you can get double strike, and jolted on zeus call
quaint hatch
And it's better bc unlike apjro call it's also good against mobs
earnest grail
Hey, does anyone have the transparent asset of the dialog box ? I'm searching a way to get it but I haven't found anything for the moment
carmine ravine
there is a modding server if u want to join
exotic furnace
i'm still struggling to know what are good builds for each run and such, I just ...
if something ends up synergizing badly, just remember it for next time :P
when i pick boons, i always think about what my biggest concern is
halcyon minnow
btw just to get an idea whats everyones best heat mine is 17
exotic furnace
mine is 10
brisk trail
i'm also still chossing prophecy skills every time
carmine ravine
and i'm not sure what to shoot for
what wep are u concern abt
brisk trail
you can just look at what people usually go for when building smth
and equip god keepsakes
exotic furnace
as i said, i pick according to what the most difficult parts of the game are
brisk trail
not sure, but I like sword, bow, and shield best at the moment. @carmine ravine
i leveled up chiron to lvl 4 right now
exotic furnace
extra damage to armor is extremely useful
halcyon minnow
yeah but its not good for the final boss
exotic furnace
well
halcyon minnow
i think that the final boss is the only real challenge everything else is realatively easy. he is what makes or breaks a run
quaint hatch
Eh
exotic furnace
i dont want to spoil anything but extra damage to armor is really useful with sm4
zealous fiber
I'm surprised you guys think so poorly of the Athena call
carmine ravine
i still dont get the problem with butterfly ball, its not even moving, it only moves with MM
zealous fiber
It makes weapons like the Guan Yu completely busted in boss fights
brisk trail
i hate it
quaint hatch
For butterfly ball just use batty to remove armor
brisk trail
but i also hate elysium in general
I also don't like the poison dart spitting guys on top of lazers and shielding crystals
brisk trail
imagine having any legendary companions
halcyon minnow
athena is worse Poseidon same with Ares
carmine ravine
i certainly wont use GY on high heat anyways so
exotic furnace
spitting and laser guys take some getting used to but with practice you can beat them without taking too much damage
zealous fiber
Does Poseidon make you immune too?
halcyon minnow
yes
brisk trail
companion is a lot of damage
carmine ravine
just use sis companion for free healing, darkness and gold
zealous fiber
And it lasts the same as Athena?
carmine ravine
poseidon longer
halcyon minnow
yes
carmine ravine
with dmg
zealous fiber
Oh, then I guess Poseidon is better.
Unless you have certain crit synergies with Athena's deflect
exotic furnace
just use sis companion for free healing, darkness and gold
thats a spoler dude
carmine ravine
dood
exotic furnace
not cool
quaint hatch
Not doesn't give the name away necessarily
halcyon minnow
yeah i think the calls are all to similar and could have been done better because some are just objectively worse than others
quaint hatch
Same as saying gy instead of ||guan yu||
zealous fiber
Calls are generally not required though, I've finished many runs without a call
halcyon minnow
yeah but they help
carmine ravine
call helps a lot
faint flume
they're very useful
carmine ravine
like you can play the game without casts, doesnt mean you dont want o
zealous fiber
For sure, but I consider them more a flavor type of addition than a clutch aspect of my build I regularly aim for
faint flume
mainly as supplementary damage but still
exotic furnace
i almost never use casts :P
brisk trail
sometimes rng is an ass
carmine ravine
see
halcyon minnow
i find casts to be weak
quaint hatch
Billowing strength with smoldering
exotic furnace
i like the lightning bolt cast to easily dispatch with big groups
zealous fiber
Casts are OP
brisk trail
i like dio's cast
quaint hatch
i find casts to be weak
Not on cast builds
exotic furnace
or to kill rats
brisk trail
or stuff that just stays there
zealous fiber
Poseidon's cast in particular makes short work of everything in styx
carmine ravine
arty call with fuly loaded and mirage shot
brisk trail
so i dont have to keep casting
halcyon minnow
true with cast specific builds they are great
zealous fiber
Does mirage shot work with Artemis call?
carmine ravine
yea
zealous fiber
I need to try that LMAOOOO
halcyon minnow
but rng can get in the way of that
zealous fiber
That sounds busted
quaint hatch
true with cast specific builds they are great
That's their entire point
quaint hatch
but rng can get in the way of that
Good thing hades isn't a roguelite
exotic furnace
thats just 30% extra damage though
zealous fiber
O...
exotic furnace
nothing crazy
zealous fiber
Artemis cast can also crit
nocturne ravine
Athena cast vs the hydra though
carmine ravine
my fav bon among all boons in hades is dem legend boon just for the animation
halcyon minnow
btw what keepsakes do you use i just go with butterfly then pom
zealous fiber
The demeter legendary boon actually works on the final boss too
carmine ravine
yea
brisk trail
what'a dem legend boon?
zealous fiber
If you get him to 5% HP second phase, he auto dies and a unique animation plays
carmine ravine
instant kill at 10% hp
quaint hatch
btw what keepsakes do you use i just go with butterfly then pom
If you switch butterfly out the effect goes away
zealous fiber
It's actually quite dope
exotic furnace
If you get him to 5% HP second phase, he auto dies and a unique animation plays
woah what
quaint hatch
@halcyon minnow Maybe build are unreliable to you because you don't use god keepsakes
halcyon minnow
i know i just use it to get some extra time
carmine ravine
the dem execution animation is worth it by itself
zealous fiber
If my build requires a certain boon, I equip that god's keepsake. If I'm going for a random run, I just equip Hypnos' wallet on the first floor
carmine ravine
The demeter legendary boon actually works on the final boss too
yea remember to tag the name
exotic furnace
thats pretty cool
zealous fiber
Tag the name?
carmine ravine
spoiler tag the final boss
zealous fiber
Where is it
carmine ravine
just click my reply
zealous fiber
Was a language filter added recently? owo
carmine ravine
its always been there
exotic furnace
lol
zealous fiber
I could've sworn I've seen people use the f-word
carmine ravine
we just dont swear in this christian server
zealous fiber
But now I used the s-word and got chastised by the bot mod
halcyon minnow
i am a good christian boi
carmine ravine
frick
halcyon minnow
heck
flat vapor
you might've seen people trying to evade the ban filter using *
which is also a no no
carmine ravine
i mean mods dont like that so
zealous fiber
It's okay
I have a huge vocabulary
(Not really but I do have thesaurus at my disposal)
brisk trail
i'm gonna do it
carmine ravine
i keep thinking abt dinosaurs everytime i heard thesaurus
zealous fiber
BRICKS AND BLACKGUARDS
quaint hatch
Blood and darkness
exotic furnace
blackguard 
carmine ravine
congrats monka, you killed the chat with that swear word
halcyon minnow
how long have you been playing hades i have been a fan since 2018
brisk trail
same
exotic furnace
i have like 80 hours on it i think xD
carmine ravine
got like since EA but certainly this year
real fossil
got it like start of october now i have +200 hours
exotic furnace
92 hours lol
real fossil
it's just such a good game
quaint hatch
190
exotic furnace
started on november 17th
carmine ravine
104h, still low
brisk trail
it's the only thing i've played since i got it
halcyon minnow
idk how many for me because i accidentally left the game running and i have 7 some days
exotic furnace
it's just such a good game
yeah it's absolutely beautiful
carmine ravine
dont you have a job or classes
tepid plover
wait how did you add sleep there
real fossil
same^
real fossil
eat than :^)
exotic furnace
eat AND sleep hades
real fossil
and meg
halcyon minnow
hades is a really good game but i think it could have been better
exotic furnace
lol
tepid plover
anything could have been better
carmine ravine
i want to eat arty
tepid plover
but we get what we get
exotic furnace
blasphemer
tepid plover
nothing is perfect
tepid plover
hades is almost close
brisk trail
no
tepid plover
bouldy is best god
carmine ravine
there is, artemis
halcyon minnow
the reason is all the gods have been in the game for a year and a half the rest was spent on dialogue like alot of it.
brisk trail
olympian god
quaint hatch
On an attraction level? Yes
tepid plover
I feel attracted to bouldy
tepid plover
a miss steak
exotic furnace
the best character is that one shade that's cheering in the colosseum
halcyon minnow
for certain aspects there is a best god
tepid plover
like for the best god aspect, we have bouldy
real fossil
bouldy bonus only bonus worth getting
carmine ravine
all you do with bouldy is getting placebos by throwing nectars n the rock
brisk trail
is it legal for bouldy to drink
tepid plover
is it legal for drinks to be absorbed by bouldy?
carmine ravine
its just a rock guys, get over it
quaint hatch
Vote kick 2/4
faint flume
Vote kick 3/4
brisk trail
Vote kick 4/4
tepid plover
welp
exotic furnace
i voted too, so 5/4
tepid plover
cya in erebus
quaint hatch
Sry alpha
carmine ravine
im in styx so im immune
quaint hatch
Gotta get out
brisk trail
death by bouldy
exotic furnace
alpha youre even worse than theseus
tepid plover
oof
faint flume
you've been votekicked, removed, noped and denied
tepid plover
exiled shades cant talk
faint flume
such as it is, not even standing in the styx will save you
exotic furnace
but guys, we should take bouldy's example. we accept everybody as flawed as they may be
quaint hatch
"Denied"
tepid plover
mmhm
carmine ravine
i bribed hades now i can go invisible, try to catch me now you blackguards
smoky rune
has there been any word on cross-saves between Switch and PC?
tepid plover
I hear something
quaint hatch
but guys, we should take bouldy's example. we accept everybody as flawed as they...
Thanks for the compliment
tepid plover
but i dont know what it is
exotic furnace
i bribed hades now i can go invisible, try to catch me now you blackguards
haha
smoky rune
argh - I wish it was happening
carmine ravine
test branch notes says they getting it within this year @smoky rune
carmine ravine
i use artemis' seeking arrows
u know im immune to dmg right
exotic furnace
blood and darkness
tacit ember
mamamia pastalavista
bronze ravine
cost me 1 dd because the curses were bad, but I now have 5 casts ona beo -aphro flare run
too bad I only get to enjoy if the for the last part of elysium and after
bleak cedar
i just can't get over how i've gotten a satyr sack on the second chamber for the last 4 times i've reached styx
novel wasp
rngsus
bleak cedar
fr
thick oar
My last play through it took 4 doors before I got the sack
rose nexus
I wanna buy the game for switch bc I wanna stay in my bed but I still wanna perfect the game on steam aaa
rancid geyser
what can i do 13 titan blood
manic bobcat
Did you fully upgrade all weapons?
If so, end game comestics stuff?
If that is done, too, hoard it like a dragon.
Golden Joystick is now. Hades is in a couple of categories also.
Hades won Best Indie for Golden Joystick, to the surprise of no one.
carmine ravine
where golden joystick
brisk trail
Congrats supergiant! 
frosty talon
bleak cedar
Man i love the progression in this game, thought it would get old after a clear or two but it just keeps getting better, and the thirst for that titan blood is real lol
carmine ravine
its rly depends on ppl, some ppl just stop progressing and gets frustrated
bleak cedar
i can get that, but at least it's not like enter the gungeon, i like rouguelites better than roguelikes just because progression, in one way or another, feels good
rose nexus
I have a switch tho
carmine ravine
cant say hades will fit on a phone tho
sick mortar
quick question
does Middle Management apply to the hidden boss in any way?
I've got a loyalty card here to sign up for, just need to know if I'll run into any hidden surprises...
pliant sparrow
ive maxed out hidden sword, eris rail, chiron bow - what should i max out next? have 32 titan blood
dark scroll
||bouldy|| But its really secret.
stone pebble
definitely
pliant sparrow
whats the best shield aspect to max out?
dark scroll
The one you like the most.
1st is prob most boring, 3rd bit more situtional with boon usage
pliant sparrow
how hard is 4th to play and how does it scale with heat?
dark scroll
boring as in simple.
Super easy actually.
It's just a empowered battering ram basicly.
pliant sparrow
does it do well up to 32 heat?
runic temple
I rescind anything negative I've said about ||Poseidon + Demeter|| I'm using aspect of ||Hera || and I just wiped a 8000 HP fight in 5 seconds.
My first experience was under || timed bloodstone mirror perk || and I was clearly not seeing the full effect.
runic temple
whats the best shield aspect to max out?
I personally like Aspect of ||Zeus || the most for Aegis and finished 32 heat with it.
carmine ravine
*artemis
runic temple
but, the best weapons are the ones that work for you
pliant sparrow
ok thx i'll try each aspect then
carmine ravine
aspects except the hiddenones isnt spoiler so dont worry
dark scroll
And you'll max thjem all out in time aswell
pliant sparrow
ill max then give up a run, see how it plays
dark scroll
And some are usefull with 1-3 points and others really need 4-5.
runic temple
the spoiler rules on my own server are a bit more intense, so I may be overly cautious here, as not to mess up there.
carmine ravine
spoiler for what
rose nexus
GRATS ON CRITICS CHOICE !
carmine ravine
watch as game awards choose TLOU2 instead for critics choice for some reason
zealous fiber
If they do, their bias will show and that will be delicious in a completely different way
pliant sparrow
If theres a chaos gate on first level will giving up be able to cycle thru chaos dialogue?
sick mortar
the only one that I think Hades is not a solid top nominee is Score and Music imo
cobalt scarab
Am I missing something, the room is fully clear, I can move on to the next room, but I can't quit the run and save my progress (says i still need to clear the room)
dark scroll
Bought something or such?
carmine ravine
hades music is bangers tho especially boss fights
dark scroll
The music for the most part is pretty forgetfull I'd say. There's some outliers.
Some specific parts and songs.
sick mortar
and I suppose this is one area where AAA games can win using Power of Money
dark scroll
But overal I wouldnb't be suprised if other games win there.
sick mortar
yeah
rose nexus
Idk man, I can’t get tired of the harp ||when you visit persephone||
dark scroll
Entering story room Act 2 is always great music/singing
rose nexus
👌
sick mortar
but again, when you're comparing it to other greats, it takes a backseat unfortunately
dark scroll
If its bad you notice it too.
I always liked the singing songs. But you can't have those 24/7 playing. ;p
sick mortar
also at this point does SG still qualify as an indie company...
brisk trail
Yup
pliant sparrow
I feel like the boss music is like “oh yeah this song is great” while during the fight but after u just forget it
sick mortar
I feel it's almost unfair when one of SG's works pops up as a Best Indie Game nominee
xD
depends on how the voting goes honestly
if it's purely by popular vote
it might not actually win
sick mortar
because AAA titles have bigger audiences
if its critics choice
then I think Hades just suplexes on everyone else
zealous fiber
Excuse moi, did TLoU2 just win?
runic agate
Imo that is a horrible way to play
winter harbor
I don’t usually go for action roguelites and I still got this game
runic agate
I love rougelites and likes
winter harbor
FTL lets you pause with real time, slay the spire is turn based
Both hades and slay the spire have good synergies in the game
But Hades lets you tailor your run a bit more compared to Neow’s bonuses in the beginning of a run
pliant sparrow
Is slay the spire really that good? Ive been looking into it but im not really a fan of card gameplay
cloud apex
Hades and StS are kinda, too different to compare
pliant sparrow
If i dont like hearthstone/legends of runeterra gameplay, would i like slay the spire?
winter harbor
Slay the spire has basically no lore but the synergies between the cards and relics is great
runic agate
I love rougelikes and story and music and amazing gameplay and god tier art and god tier everything
pliant sparrow
Ok thx ill buy it tmr then
runic agate
Im not joking when i say hades is the best game ive ever played
You can call me Zek if you want
winter harbor
Cyberpunk kept getting delayed so it can’t be best game of 2020
winter harbor
I actually don’t know why people want cyberpunk so much
dark scroll
If a game even hints to smelling a bit like Deus Ex I'm interested.
zealous fiber
I don't know what the Golden Joystick stream is showing but I'm reading reports that TLoU2 already won 6 awards
including ultimate game of the year?
runic agate
Someone try to tell me of a game thats better then hades
dark scroll
Hitman (2)
pliant sparrow
Half Life (3)
pliant sparrow
Also why hitman 2 i feel like theres a lot of stealth shooter games
dark scroll
Not a lot of good/great ones.
pliant sparrow
Metal gear series?
dark scroll
Very different game.
pliant sparrow
Nah battle toads man
frigid scarab
carmine ravine
I feel like the boss music is like “oh yeah this song is great” while during the...
this guy legit thought unseen one and final expense (payback remix) is forgettable
brisk trail
Those blue ninja zombies with relentless attacks when they are armoured are really annoying
I rolled them when facing the hydra. Almost died
fallow dirge
No way
zealous fiber
It won 6 GoTY awards, including ultimate game of the year
And Naughty dog won the "best studio of the year"
carmine ravine
"expectations subverted" - neil druckmann
zealous fiber
Out of the 6 awards, I reckon it deserved 3 or 2. For best visuals and best audio.
carmine ravine
nice job for the crunch ND
zealous fiber
In the end, Ghost of Tsushima didn't win anything?
That has got to be the biggest joke of them all
carmine ravine
tsushima free update is even worth a whole lot more than tlou2
zealous fiber
The "best storytelling award" is a meme though
The game is far from bad, it's a solid 7/10 in my opinion. But best storytelling? Someone's blowing smoke up their sphincters
carmine ravine
i will agree that its good on graphics fidelity and progressive in accessibility, but thats it
rose nexus
Hah, sphincters
rose nexus
https://twitter.com/GoldenJoysticks/status/1331363973535559680?s=19
You love to see it
zealous fiber
Congrats to the team
carmine ravine
ping the devs i dare you
cinder lichen
“idk how it came to be but I love that Thanatos used to be in the graphic here to announce the winner”
“This is particularly amusing to me because of the often memed mistake of people make of referring to Hades as the god of death”
Jus a couple of replies to that lol
carmine ravine
hades is just a conspiracy theory
bleak cedar
for once, i can see that critics have better taste than consumers
https://twitter.com/GoldenJoysticks/status/1331363973535559680
https://twitter.com/GoldenJoysticks/status/1331365441630056448
winter harbor
I didn’t hear very positive things about TLOUP2’s plot
Whereas Hades justifies and has a plot around being a roguelite
carmine ravine
imagine being a roguelite having better plot than a triple A title
bleak cedar
Yeah rip GoT
carmine ravine
yeah its a shame GoT won nothing
winter harbor
Which one..
bleak cedar
I mean i understand some of the awards for TLoU2, like it looks beautiful and i'm sure the sound was great, but i've heard pretty awful things about the story
cinder lichen
General consensus says that it’s p crap, but some say that credit has to be given where it’s due, but it’s far from outstanding or flawless.
bleak cedar
I'm sure there's something good in the story if at least some people enjoyed it
cinder lichen
Seriously though what the hell, I really don’t think TLoU2 would have that much popularity. I’ve heard more traction about games released years before than TLoU2.
I’ve heard only good things about GoT
carmine ravine
its just some people have that contrarian thinking that "the haters totally hates the story coz ellie is lesbian" and "its only the loud minority that hates the game"
they dismiss all criticism on it immediately
cinder lichen
“Studio of the year”? The same studio that pushed out the previous game’s writer in the name of “being progressive”?
cinder lichen
Probably an exec decision iirc but still, Sea of Thieves, No Man’s Sky, Deep Rock Galactic, and Hades all have devs that listen to their respective communities. You’re telling me none of them qualified for Studio of the Year?
tough silo
You know, I've heard a lot of bad things about tlou2 but I haven't heard anything particularly good about it
bleak cedar
Yeah i would have loved to see no mans sky, the direction that game seems to have moved is amazing
flat vapor
apparently it's pretty good looking and sounding
tough silo
Nomansky is pretty fun
carmine ravine
basically "Big studio with crunch > small indie company but makes rly gud games"
flat vapor
most complaints i've heard are basically about the story
bleak cedar
i played it like ~4 years ago before the first major expansion, i've heard its done really good since
cinder lichen
No Man’s Sky definitely has a couple of promises to fulfill, but that’s neither here nor there if they’re able to expand beyond what their original expectations, realistic or inflated, once we’re.
carmine ravine
yea from what i heard No man sky actually becomes that hyped product ppl wanted during the hype
cinder lichen
Same with Sea of Thieves, but to a lesser extent.