#h1-discussion

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novel wasp
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Actually wil

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Astromania is a better song

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to represent your mood when those things run into you

hearty sierra
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Man, mod it so it plays astromania the louder the closer you are to a flame wheel

novel wasp
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OH YES

hearty sierra
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Also the tempo speeds up

brisk trail
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yo ||than|| is so elusive

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might just do suicide runs for him

hearty sierra
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And for every time it hits you it loops another time, the full song

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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i've been told that wasn't true

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someone went into the code and there was no req for it there or something

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just room depth for each region

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  • rng
hearty sierra
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And I quote:

After reaching the 3rd chamber of Elysium for the first time, Thanatos has a chance to appear in any area except for Temple of Styx. He may appear at the beginning of an encounter (excluding Trials of the Gods) after Zagreus has lost some health in a run. This initiates a contest where they compete to slay more shades than the other, for that encounter. The spawn rate of foes is noticeably higher and the encounter lasts three waves. If Zagreus either kills more enemies than Thanatos does or ties his total, he will award Zagreus a Centaur Heart. Zagreus and Thanatos are immune from each other's attacks.

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The wiki's a great resource

novel wasp
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bass boosted astromania

brisk trail
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yeah, i asked around because the wiki said that

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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apparently he's been known to appear even in no hit runs

novel wasp
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But wil

versed dagger
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So, What if other gods were introduced from other pantheons

brisk trail
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please no

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why does that fit...

keen cliff
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XDDD

hearty sierra
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I did not need Charles' face here

novel wasp
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Yes you do

keen cliff
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i never noticed chaos has darkness earrings

hearty sierra
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Just edit James' face on Aphro at this point

novel wasp
hearty sierra
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And show it to nyaanyaa

novel wasp
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i mean theres animephrodite

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perhaps Sansprhodite is a better choice

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idk

keen cliff
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please no...

hearty sierra
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Just make the whole pantheon James Charles

novel wasp
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I will try

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also make it a mod

keen cliff
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God(s) help us

hearty sierra
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Dusa but it's James Charles

novel wasp
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Hades but its James Charles

hearty sierra
hearty sierra
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If you do I swear

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Send me the link

novel wasp
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IDK MAN ITS KINDA HARD

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BUT IF I PULL IT OFF IT WILL BE MEGA FUNNY

hearty sierra
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If

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IT'LL BE MEGA CURSED

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Have the big curse

novel wasp
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I will trump Chaos'

flat vapor
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sister styx

hearty sierra
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Like Zeus having the big gay

novel wasp
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Im big gay for Hermes

hearty sierra
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Megaera but James Charles

novel wasp
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even tho his original sprite art is ugly

hearty sierra
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W/ Whip

novel wasp
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I like his fanart more tho

hearty sierra
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I actually like his sprite quite a bit

novel wasp
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@hearty sierra whispering ASMR

hearty sierra
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I'd say I like Aphro's the least

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The shading doesn't do her good

novel wasp
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yeah the eye part

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thats why I wanna make sansprodite

hearty sierra
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But I like all the art nevertheless

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Just gorgeous

novel wasp
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but lets be real

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aphro's sprite is just as faithful to the original material

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at the same time

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not being you know

hearty sierra
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Mmm maybe

novel wasp
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thotful

hearty sierra
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Ahahahahah thotful

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On that note, I'll be off

novel wasp
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ok

hearty sierra
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Good day!

novel wasp
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and here we begin

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the adventure of Photoshopping cursed image

trim current
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woot got it. All achievements done.

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What a great game.

novel wasp
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alright

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time to uninstall

trim current
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nah, ill keep it. Ill probably end up playing it still

dark scroll
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Not like its a very good game anyway.

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Can only pet 1 head.

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animators just got lazy probably

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or the writers not wanting to write "pet head 1".

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Clearly this game will be forgotten shortly.

novel wasp
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pet your head then 5head

next sphinx
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Hey guys have you all seen this PMV? Spoilers for the final boss and first ending, but if you already know that it’s a beautiful watch: https://youtu.be/GASclCOOSdQ

(Spoilers for the first successful run! And warnings for blood/gore!)
Well I call it a PMV, you all know what this is.
Please consider this my love letter to the game Hades and its creators–for getting me through this year, much as this song has. I'm not much of a gamer myself, but Hades has really stolen my heart and I recommend it to everyo...

▶ Play video
faint flume
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I like how "the alcohol in me hum" is at the same time as it shows his sword with a purple glow

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also how he shows up to ||persephone|| all beat up

bronze stump
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The alcohol affect

faint flume
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well more like dionysus

bronze stump
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hungover affect

next sphinx
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Yeah it’s a great detail they’ve applied

rancid ember
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Oh wow. Two Poseidon boons in a row. And I got Tempest Strike and Razor Shoals (already have Flood Shot). I'm trying for Curse of Drowning though... Wanna see what it's like

next sphinx
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I really love how Poseidon boons stack with each other, good luck getting Curse of Drowning!

rancid ember
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When I say "two Poseidon boons in a row" I literally mean in two chambers in a row xD

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I didn't actually know that was possible

austere jacinth
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I find Poseidon-heavy builds kind of hilarious xDD

next sphinx
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Ooh, probably uncommon for sure!

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and totally random if it happens because I know the keepsake only procs once

bronze stump
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you just push the poor enemies into the walls

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over and over

rancid ember
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I have flurry jab too

next sphinx
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And they just explode on impact, it’s great shadesmile

rancid ember
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Just pulverizing them into the wall like tenderizing meat

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I'm not sure my Achilles spear is that relevant to this build, but I like it anyway xD

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Though hey my special still inflicts Doom

next sphinx
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I had a really fun sea storm build with aspect of chiron the other day

rancid ember
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Not sure there's that much time to spec the hell out of Doom though

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If I had Privileged Access I could actually possibly use it lol

next sphinx
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Aspect of Achilles really powers up your flood shot though, do you have infernal soul or stygian soul atm?

rancid ember
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Infernal

next sphinx
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Nice - it took me a little while to get used to getting my crystals back but now I see why a lot of people prefer it. Stygian is still really nice for convenience, though

rancid ember
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Also man, I got healed to full by a fountain and then lost over 100 HP in the next room lol. Freaking chariots. Not even the exploding ones, it just kept looking like I had time to dodge their charges but I didn't

next sphinx
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Ooouch, those things are such a pain

charred whale
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Hi hello I just joined because I've played 60 hours of Hades in the last week and I'm losing my mind

rancid ember
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omg uh. I have the choice between a +200% damage Frost Flourish (replacing Curse of Pain), or Blizzard Shot.

I'm obviously taking Blizzard Shot, especially since it's the only Fated Choice here, but I bet there's a good few builds that +200% damage on special would be amazing

next sphinx
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Frost flourish can be really nice, chill is so helpful

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Hi Mini Gremlin, welcome! Also, same - it’s too good!

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“I’ll just do one more run and then stop.”

Five ours later with sore thumbs: “For crying out loud!”

charred whale
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I play on PC and I have...82 runs? i think?

rancid ember
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Man. Asterius got me down to 5 HP remaining, then I eviscerated Theseus down to half HP... then died to Athena's opening volley lol

charred whale
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ooooooooooof

rancid ember
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That was a helluva (quick) fight

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But yeah TIL Flurry Jab is hella powerful and can do terrifying amounts of damage lol. I think I was doing at least 10x boonless damage

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Not with Flurry Jab alone, mind

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but still the amount of damage I did was absurd lol

next sphinx
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Athena is so funny, i had her call the other day and accidentally called her while she was punishing me for picking another God, but unlike Artemis the other day she still gave me the call and said “I ought not to help you like this”

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Which is nice but also PEAK passive aggressive

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I couldn’t believe it

austere jacinth
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She is a war goddess and possessing of her father's unenviable temper. Be glad it wasn't aggressive-aggressive. xDD

faint flume
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I haven't tried Ares's in a trial

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I probably should now

next sphinx
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Aggressive-aggressive is what I always expect if I accidently call them while they’re punishing me

faint flume
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Poseidon I imagine would be the most angry tho

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the others are mainly fine to stay passive aggressive

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Poseidon doesn't have the tact

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in game of course

austere jacinth
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I like Dio's 'I don't want to but, Zag, man, you've forced my hand.' Know-your-place vibes.

faint flume
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Dio is just so out of it, and so down to just vibe

next sphinx
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In my experience Artemis gets the most hurt, everyone else is either offended and/or “well now I have to teach you a lesson”

faint flume
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him and Hermes are people I'd genuinely hang out with yknow

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that's because Artemis generally sees you as more like her and relates less to others in general so it's a bit more personal I suppose

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not romantic ofc

next sphinx
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yeah, I really like her and at the same time I’ve had friends like her who dump all their baggage on me and try to make me feel bad for having different opinions or spending time with other people and it’s like “I would not actually want to spend much time with this person”

rose nexus
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I love Dionysus

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Just not in the myths. Oh god

faint flume
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idk he's half and half in the myths

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one half is madness

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the other half nice guy

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like with ariadne

manic lotus
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In the myths all the gods (except Hestia) are awful people

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Especially Athena o.o

austere jacinth
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Some are less awful than others, but from a modern standpoint, none of them are 'good people'

winter harbor
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||Demeter|| gets really angry at you for using her call in a trial

next sphinx
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Oh man, I bet

austere jacinth
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I mean, Thanatos mostly just does his job, I guess. Not the nicest job, but he's not written about all too much either.

winter harbor
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Hades is the villain so often

rose nexus
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Hera really done with zeuses bafoonery

rancid ember
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I've heard people say that Hades isn't so bad

faint flume
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I mean in general all societies with different morals, both in the same time period and different time periods consider each other to have worse morals than themselves

rancid ember
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I know someone who's actually a Hermeticist (so Greek myth ties into his religion) and he's like "I kind of imagine Hades as a really wholesome god" lol

austere jacinth
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Ha, not so much xDD

faint flume
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Kidnapping Persephone was.. less than nice

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alongside taking 2 mistresses

next sphinx
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It makes sense that the ancient greeks imagined their gods and goddesses as so vindictive and awful, though, because life in general was incredibly hard. If something awful happened to you it might feel somehow easier to think the gods are angry at you than that things are just chaos and unfair.

austere jacinth
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And Persephone learned well from Hades, and trapped Adonis herself.

faint flume
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almost all the greek gods are pretty nasty tbh, Dio is the only one who I can think of who is nasty in a not very human way tho

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like personality wise Dio is pleasant enough, but he's also somewhat god of madness and it shows in his myths

austere jacinth
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Some Dio's followers and cults were terrifying.

next sphinx
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What do you mean, though? Madness isn’t necessarily inhuman, although we don’t like to think about it

austere jacinth
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I mean, the crazy-cannibalistic stuff.

charred whale
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greek mythology is wild

austere jacinth
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Oh yeah.

faint flume
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it's inhuman in the sense of it's not something we do out of emotional flaws, or missteps so to speak, it's not something we can properly comprehend

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not without being mad I suppose

next sphinx
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Ah I see, that makes sense

austere jacinth
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I will say there's plenty of 'inhumanity' elsewhere in Greek mythology mind you, given the amount of literally transformative nonsense.

brazen leaf
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hiya 👋

austere jacinth
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Heya.

faint flume
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oh of course, it's just most of the gods seem very prone to being vengeful, angry, and jealous, and take it out in rather predictable ways

dark scroll
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Most things involving gods/mythology can be considered culty.

faint flume
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Dio just kind of does as he wills, not much malice in it comparatively

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he was the one that gave Midas his touch iirc?

dark scroll
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some are just more specific and others more 'dangerous'

winter harbor
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I think Dio actually rescued Ariadne and married her, when Theseus abandoned her

faint flume
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yep

austere jacinth
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Curiously, Dionysus is also sometimes considered the most 'human' of the gods. I think Hades (the game) has a little reference to this in his codex, with Achilles mentioning something of the mortal about him. But yeah, he tended to hang on Earth more than Olympus in a lot of versions.

rancid ember
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Oh hey I got the scene that unlocked Meg's favor, and I haven't even won my first run lol

austere jacinth
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And get drunk, have orgies, get some blood offerings, send out the maenads...~

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Grats, Seian!

fresh galleon
next sphinx
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Just curious, Have you asked people on a FF discord as well? I think a lot of us will be biased towards Hades here

brisk trail
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Not sure what the poll's for but I assume they're trying to make hades win

austere jacinth
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I'm fine with that xDD

next sphinx
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Oh, I thought they were the poll creator at first

stiff falcon
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this game is a masterpiece 😍

fickle sparrow
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I agree, I gave it a 10/10 for my review easy

dark scroll
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It's acceptable.

long cipher
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I agree as well, when I'm done with it I will review it with a 9/10 or 10/10 as well

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pretty much love for all the details... you don't see that in most of the triple A games nowadays

fickle sparrow
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yea as a fan of roguelikes and roguelites I see this as a love letter to both greek myth fans and roguelike fans

long cipher
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++

fickle sparrow
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I'm both, so I just find myself fangirling hard

stiff falcon
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i can't stop playing, i'm loving it

austere jacinth
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I've not played a roguelike in so long. Nothing really caught my eye. I gave Hades a shot on a whim after seeing a gif from the launch trailer and a positive review. It blew me away.

long cipher
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just got 73 hours in and still feel the same.. can't stop 🙂

fickle sparrow
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I have to say tho I'm disappointed that only like 27% of people have the pet the dog achievement on steam

dark scroll
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Bugged.

next sphinx
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That’s baffling to me

long cipher
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is it the "pet it 10 times" one?

next sphinx
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Oh I thought it was “pet at ALL”

brisk trail
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you can only pet 1 head... injustice

next sphinx
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But even still 10 times isn’t too much to expect

austere jacinth
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I pet him every time. He's a good boy.

long cipher
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guess I had that one after my 10th try... I always have to pet animals in games

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he is a good boy indeed

next sphinx
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I can appreciate that the amount of time and resources they’d have to spend in making the other heads pettable were better spent elsewhere - and it’s nice that there’s an in game reason about Zagreus respecting Cerb’s boundaries

brisk trail
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i'm just memeing

long cipher
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guess it's more like lore wise since the 3 heads are seperately acting and have different behaviours

dark scroll
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Gonna be DLC.

long cipher
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xD

fickle sparrow
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Yea I heard that multiple times tho Lotus, tbf at least they explain it

brisk trail
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i'd buy it

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lmao

next sphinx
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Yeah I figured with the “injustice” comment 😆

long cipher
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I'd buy it as well xD

dark scroll
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Pet head #2 and Pet Head #3. All proceeds going to animal charity.

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Throw in a few voice lines to appease us peasants.

long cipher
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I hope so much for DLCs or expansions or whatever

gloomy sedge
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Guys, just a question. is the story of the game complete or not?

dark scroll
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Yup.

austere jacinth
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I dunno if we'll get anything, and Hades is fantastic as it is... but I would definitely pay for MORE HADES xDD

next sphinx
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I think the only I’d add to this game (if I could wish on a star or something) is that you could ||tend to Persephone’s gardens for more farming sim elements|| - I would be OVER THE MOON if that were possible

long cipher
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I'm not at the epilog yet and it already feels so good as it is and I will be pleased as it is now.

next sphinx
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It would be a crazy amount of extra development time though

long cipher
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And still I also hope for more! 😛

austere jacinth
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Kelsey, I would love that too. I made a promise! Let me fulfil it! xDD

next sphinx
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Yes, the story is complete Matt

brisk trail
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same mordrak, i got ||most gods at the heart lock|| atm

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don't wanna spoil anything so just doing more runs and hoping i trigger something

long cipher
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you will 🙂

brisk trail
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almost tempted to do suicide runs and throw myself into the asphodel lava

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should be faster but

next anchor
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@novel wasp care to do a poggers series of pieces?

gloomy sedge
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Will there be DLCs or updates with more story content?

next sphinx
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I like the gameplay too much to do suicide runs, at least so far

dark scroll
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Nobody knows.

austere jacinth
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No idea, Matt.

dark scroll
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Unlikely but the better Hades sells the more possibilty I guess?

austere jacinth
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After the game launched (left early access) the devs decided to take it easy for a bit. They've definitely earned the break!

next sphinx
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Probably not, Supergiant Games tends to not release games until they’re in their complete form

austere jacinth
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To my knowledge, they've not made DLC for their games before. But Hades is also their first roguelike and their first EA game so... -shrugs-

dark scroll
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And selling like hotcakes.

next sphinx
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If they do some extras I’d be happy to give them more money, but as it is Hades is already a wonderful and complete experience

dark scroll
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Makes it more profitable to do dlc aswell. But we can only hope for now.

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cough pet head dlc cough

gloomy sedge
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Hades DLC = Shut up and take my money

austere jacinth
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Mood.

next sphinx
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I’d be happy to buy a physical copy as well

neat kettle
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Where is Hercules in this game

dark scroll
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They could def do that limited run games/website thing. They've done it with Bastion/transistor?

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LP included and all.

austere jacinth
neat kettle
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He needs to make an appearance with his Disney look xD

dark scroll
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And for Hercules watch the series. ;p

neat kettle
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Wait yes not actually called Hercules

austere jacinth
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Zag seems to be a bit of a fan of Heracles. He'd be happy to see him, I'm sure.

neat kettle
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I can't believe he isn't called Hercules

austere jacinth
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That's the Roman equivalent.

neat kettle
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My life has been a lie

gloomy sedge
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An Aspect of Thanatos was going to be cool

austere jacinth
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It's just like calling Aphrodite 'Venus', or Ares 'Mars'. xD

neat kettle
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I thought they were completely different things :O

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As you can tell I'm well versed in Greek mythology

austere jacinth
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Aspect of Thanatos = Thing dies. Just... dies.

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Ha, no worries. Hades is great no matter how much you know ^^

neat kettle
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You gotta admit the game would be dope is Disney Hades was the boss xD

dark scroll
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I'd rather Disney stay away from most things. ;p

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They !@#$ things up on regular basis...

neat kettle
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Only recently

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The classics are still that

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But that's a while different conversation for a whole different server

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Aha

austere jacinth
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There are channels suitable for Disney talk. ^^

neat kettle
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So there is aha

dark scroll
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Nah, old disney good, new disney bad(ish). We got it covered. Lets talk about Cerby again!

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What is he again....?

neat kettle
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A dog

dark scroll
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That is not the correct answer!

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Try again.

neat kettle
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A doggo

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A woofer

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Pupperino

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Bork

vocal ridge
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perro

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the most adorable thing in the world

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the goty winner

brisk trail
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i dunno what's happening but im gonna guess that cerberus is "a friend"

vocal ridge
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a little goofball

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@dark scroll WHATS THE ANWSER?!

astral swift
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A good boi

austere jacinth
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Also the son of a god.

astral swift
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I'd say best boi but Hypnos took that title shadegrief

faint flume
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Hypnos and Cerberus are both best boys, in different ways

tacit ember
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hades was relesed befor 1.0 right?

astral swift
brisk trail
astral swift
faint flume
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Hypnos and Cerb get along famously

tacit ember
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so im trying to get the dusa blush ting

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but the game woun't tell me the task thngy mabob i have to do, do i just need to talk to her more?

quaint hatch
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progress relationship, talk more

faint flume
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give gallons of nectar to her

tacit ember
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i gave 6

quaint hatch
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also spoiler tag the ||plush/companion|| thing

tacit ember
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bruh

quaint hatch
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fulfill quest

faint flume
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honestly the sheer amount of nectar zag procures and then forces down the throats of others is remarkable

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same with ambrosia

quaint hatch
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then give ambrosia

tacit ember
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so basicaly talk lots

quaint hatch
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do u have her prophecy?

tacit ember
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no

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how i get that

quaint hatch
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by talking to her enough after u got to her locked heart

tacit ember
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i gave her 6 nector and thats about it

quaint hatch
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need to talk more

tacit ember
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also is the 15 keys for blood traid good, it sound good to me

quaint hatch
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||she'll ask you to renovate the lounge||

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its good

astral swift
quaint hatch
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u wanna unlock mirror fully first

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but otherwise its great

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unfortunately blood has no use for me anymore

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i hope they release new weapons so i can instantly max em xD

tacit ember
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ok

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i still need to do the 30 keys one

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gess i should have don that first

quaint hatch
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the last ones are very impactful

tacit ember
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waht is

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it

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like what they do

brisk trail
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Hades 2

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Or dlc

astral swift
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I forgot the mirror costs keys bouldy

quaint hatch
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why a new game when u can expand on a good one

brisk trail
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Dlc

delicate pilot
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Man

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Supergiant is probably gonna get a lot of popularity off of Hades huh?

quaint hatch
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hopefully more than before

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hopefully ea wont eat them up and spit them out

delicate pilot
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i mean they are being nominated for a lot of GOTY awards and got named TIME magazine's game of the year

tacit ember
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i looked att wiki last 2 mirror thingys seem great

delicate pilot
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i mean Supergiant self publish

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so i don't think they are going to need a big name publisher unless they want to like. up the budget or somethingf

quaint hatch
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unfortunately it's not always about needing

tacit ember
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waht are super giant games other games

faint flume
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eh, I doubt they will tbh, I'm just glad indie games are more than keeping up with the bigger developers

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transistor, bastion, and pyre

tacit ember
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i literaly was like hey i remember this game i say on utub that one time

winter harbor
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Last 2 mirror thingies are really good

tacit ember
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ima try it

delicate pilot
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TBH we are kinda in the age where indie studios are popular

tacit ember
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yes

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also the story in hades is great are all the other games like that

delicate pilot
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like the way I see it

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unless Supergiatn just doesn't feel like making games anymore

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they probably wont sell the company

next sphinx
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It’s hard to say Erik, what do you mean by like that? I’d say they’re all slightly different emotional tones

delicate pilot
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the Supergiant twitter has more followers then the Yacht Club twitter (shovel knight)

next sphinx
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But they are all great stories with wonderful characters

delicate pilot
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oh, more then team cherry too

neat kettle
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When you start a run sometimes Hades will talk and highlight a word does this do something to the run?

tacit ember
next sphinx
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I don’t believe it affects anything, Milky, just extra flavour

neat kettle
#

Alright, it's just strange it happens occasionally

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Though he did just mention Poseidon and then he was the first god I found

delicate pilot
#

if you combine all the highlighted words you get a sentence

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this sentence makes no sense as its just a jumble of words

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but makes you think

next sphinx
#

You might find this interesting, Milky, I don’t know if it includes the things that come up just before runs but I wouldn’t be surprised

neat kettle
#

I watched the start of that but it went into the mechanic's of the conversations which is awesome but was taking away from me being immersed in the magic of how much dilogue there is, when you find out there's a science to it

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I dunno if that makes sense xD

next sphinx
#

Oh, yeah I can understand that I think!

mint dirge
#

doing a sword run and the first room is a hammer upgrade with cursed slash gg

barren dew
#

time to go fight hades with ||aspect of guan yu|| wish me luck

lethal socket
#

good luck\

barren dew
#

I got completely wrecked but at least i almost made it to the second phase

lethal socket
#

you will get it next rtime

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first time i did it i had

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the broken spear point

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if that helps

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or the acorn

astral swift
#

Quick skelly spoiler question: ||What's the exact criterion for finding out who brought him? I read that you have to talk to Hermes while you're holding the tooth keepsake, is that it and I just have bad rng luck?||

austere jacinth
#

To my knowledge, yeah. Pray to RNGesus

west egret
#

Hi, after completing the lounge renovation, is there any point in not converting the gemstones? I mean will there be any more actual reason other than cosmetics to spend the gemstones on the contractor?

barren dew
#

there is a few upgrades in the first tab of the house contractor that actually affect the game but other than that no

pliant sparrow
#

you can get a cool aquarium

faint flume
#

flurry slash, cursed slash with improved attack speed from hermes and nourished soul Zag and EM4 ||Hades|| whilst healing: WHY WON'T YOU JUST DIE

barren dew
#

||that moment when you want to fight asterius to get a chance at getting the waking phrase but the game just says no have butterfly ball||

west egret
#

Thanks

rapid forum
#

||using hades's call against him is hilarious||

rancid berry
#

heat mechanics question: ||say ive done 1 heat on particular weapon and beaten a few bosses but not won. If I go up to 2+ heat and win will I still be able to get rewards at 1 heat?||

winter harbor
#

||if you win at 2+ heat when you haven’t completed 1 heat victory yet, in terms of the bounty, it’ll count as your 1 heat victory||

rancid berry
#

oh very cool tysm

runic agate
#

OMFG IM SO HAPPY IM ABOUT TO LEAVE FOR THE 10TH TIME YAAY

pliant sparrow
#

hope u have a good build the boss is extra tough 😉

runic agate
#

|| hades let's you in for free lmao I already knew that ||

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THE END CREDITS SONG IS SOOOOO GOOD

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YAAAAAAAY

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I said I was going to get the end credits by the end of this weekend and I freaking did it

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I won 3 times yesterday and 2 times today

ivory plover
#

the amount of feelings i have for ||beating hades for the first time last night|| are sm

runic agate
#

It's so freaking good

ivory plover
#

it really is omg

runic agate
#

||It's in the blood|| is the best song in this game no joke

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|| omfg Cerberus is so cuteeeeee ||

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|| HADES STANDING IN A DEFEATED MANNER IS AWESOME GET REKT YOU OLD BASTRAD ||

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||POM BLOSSOM LES GOOOOO||

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I've got every keepsake other then ||Hades' keepsake||

manic bobcat
#

looking at the Steam achievement, 45% of players cleared the first run

#

that's surprisingly high

echo path
#

zagreus pls marrye mee

tiny grove
echo path
#

it rlly is addictive as hell i could not put it doooown

#

goty material fr

manic bobcat
#

that compared to 30% first run clear in RoR2

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im just lookng at average first run completion right now per Steam achievement

#

interesting stuff

tiny grove
#

Combination of impactful metaprogression, compelling gameplay loop, and a lot of story reward for playing

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I can see why 45% of players have completed one run

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that number will continue to rise i imagine

tiny grove
languid wing
#

Yeah the story probably pushed that extra 15%

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Since both games has pretty good loops

manic bobcat
#

Some well-known games global "first run" completion rate:
The Binding of Isaac: 74% (Mom), 36.8% (Mom's Heart)
Hades: 43.8%
Risk of Rain 2: 29.4%
Witcher 3: 27.3%
Transistor: 25.1%
Bastion: 15.2%
Darkest Dungeon: 3.2% (lol)

pliant sparrow
#

if it were a regular roguelike i would be concerned lol

manic bobcat
#

not a great sample size, but Hades completion rate is quite high, if not the best depending on how you view Isaac

languid wing
#

Ah yes. DD the game you love to play but never complete kekw

fierce vessel
#

wait, what about satan? in tboi? because it can happen

manic bobcat
#

i'm trying to do a "first clear" completion rate

#

clearing satan in tboi is like clearing epilogue in Hades, not fair comparisin

winter harbor
#

Slay the spire? Monster train?

fierce vessel
#

also, what devise do you play on

pliant sparrow
#

enter the gungeon?

languid wing
#

StS and Monster Train are also nice

#

Different gameplay tho in comparison to the lst

manic bobcat
#

StS: 66.3% Ironclad

#

highest (A0 of course, we talking first clear)

fierce vessel
#

ah yes, the Ironchad

manic bobcat
#

data from my Steam achievement page, I just look for % beat the story

winter harbor
#

Its not based on reflexes either, which helps too

fierce vessel
#

what about.... atomicrops?

manic bobcat
#

13.4% "full" completion for Hollow Knight, which is also quite impressive for a metroidvania

fierce vessel
#

the 112%

#

or 114?

#

I don't remeber

winter harbor
#

I’ve never played that but the bosses sound really hard

fierce vessel
#

in hollow knight? it's hollow knight

manic bobcat
#

in short, Hades has a great pull

#

addictive gameplay isn't just this Discord bias, data does kinda back it up 😄

winter harbor
#

Great art too

fierce vessel
#

hades is addictive, but the ending is sad (I only did the normal ending)

manic bobcat
#

if you keep going, ||it doesn't have to be that way.||

fierce vessel
#

Yeah, also how hard is charon? I never fought him

runic agate
#

Charon?

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He slaps ur ass

winter harbor
#

Difficult

runic agate
#

Really hard

pliant sparrow
#

Very simple moveset

runic agate
#

LIKE REALLY HARD

winter harbor
#

He hits like a truck

pliant sparrow
#

Depends on what stage of game ur on

manic bobcat
#

he hits hard, his move set isn't exactly unbeatable

fierce vessel
#

it's his damage his health

runic agate
#

He just slaps the whole screen

manic bobcat
#

he's the epitome of just don't get hit

runic agate
#

Charon||>Hades||

winter harbor
#

But by ||Hades|| your build should be finished

fierce vessel
#

but he also slaps

winter harbor
#

By Charon, even in the mid stage elysium fight, it won’t be

runic agate
#

True but ||hades|| doesnt hit like a truck and hit half the screen

gleaming granite
#

Really? I find him easier than ||dad||

fierce vessel
#

and hades beam kills you if you are not hiding

runic agate
#

Just go behind him lmao

manic bobcat
pliant sparrow
#

Beam is easy

#

Free dps

manic bobcat
#

there's a safe spot on top of him

fierce vessel
#

I get scared

runic agate
#

Beam is the joke of a attack

fierce vessel
#

which boss is your least favorite? the heroes are mine most likely

pliant sparrow
#

Hydra

manic bobcat
pliant sparrow
#

Always takes the longest

#

I can do heroes in like 20 secs but hydra takes at least 50

gleaming granite
#

I stand behind a pole ||hope no skull detonates in the meantime and breath slowly|| until it's over

fierce vessel
#

also, hydra sucks but is a joke with moves that hit more enemies like fog or lightning

runic agate
pliant sparrow
#

Still has multiple phases

#

Takes time to dash around

runic agate
#

Also Poseidon dash is the best

#

Imo

manic bobcat
unkempt finch
#

why i dont become any more weapon upgrade materials after unlocked the mechanic to upgrade my weapons ?

runic agate
#

@manic bobcat O

gleaming granite
#

for the hydra ||I skip the last phase with than or meg nuking it||

fierce vessel
#

worse mini boss is the whitches

unkempt finch
#

sry my english isnt good 😦 from meg the first boss

#

you can get materials to upgrade your weapons

manic bobcat
runic agate
#

You have to beat the game once then you will figure it out

gleaming granite
#

@unkempt finch can I assume you speak german?

unkempt finch
#

yes xD

manic bobcat
runic agate
#

I get mad when grammar that poor is used not on purpose

gleaming granite
#

Haha ok. Ja du musst das Spiel einmal durch haben, dann eröffnen sich dir neue Möglichkeiten

manic bobcat
#

Well not everyone here is native English speaker.

runic agate
#

Still

#

That made no sense

mint dirge
#

?

#

you seem kinda dense lol

unkempt finch
#

ah okay xD ich war einmal ganz knapp dran da hatte hades nur noch 1/3 mit dem schild, das ist echt viel stärker als die anderen waffen denke ich 😮

gleaming granite
#

@runic agate it was clear to me what he asked even with the poor grammar.

winter harbor
#

You can also trade at wretched broker for materials

gleaming granite
#

Das Schild ist echt geil. Mein Liebling bleibt der Bogen aber mit dem Schild spiele ich auch echt gern.

#

Viel Erfolg! Übung macht da echt den Meister

runic agate
#

@gleaming granite you could figure out what his first language was so I imagine you would have gone though a phase where you spoke like that therefore making it easier to understand them

unkempt finch
#

🙂 okay now lets continue in english ^^

gleaming granite
#

Wenn ich mir vorstelle wie lang ich gebraucht hab um an Meg vorbei zu kommen oder an Theseus und Asterois

unkempt finch
#

so noboady is offended by us speaking german xD

austere jacinth
#

Man, I envy multi-linguists so much. My dad was born in Hamburg and my German is terrible!

manic bobcat
#

as long as you guys don't abuse it.

unkempt finch
#

mhm i got 15 trys too already 😮

languid wing
#

|| Em 4 Dad || vs || Charon || will prob a bit more contending. Main problem with the latter is you are forced to fight him pre-finished build

gleaming granite
#

Well somebody is offended by you speaking not in your native tongue

austere jacinth
#

Keep going!

languid wing
#

Heroes suck

gleaming granite
#

I.. Am at 150 tries now

pliant sparrow
#

Why cant i reroll hammers?

languid wing
#

I just suck it up and whail on them knowing I lvled up hp high enough to not proc death defiance

runic agate
#

Have you killed hades yet? @gleaming granite

winter harbor
#

I don’t think Theseus and asterius are that bad

gleaming granite
#

Yeah sure.

runic agate
#

@languid wing its technically not a boon

winter harbor
#

No clue why you can’t reroll hammers, you just can’t

pliant sparrow
#

But well isnt a boon either

manic bobcat
winter harbor
#

You can reroll boons and well of Charon tho

languid wing
#

What boon?

pliant sparrow
#

Hammer

languid wing
#

I think you mispinged kekw

winter harbor
#

How do you persuade a well?

gleaming granite
#

||EM|| Asterois is so much harder than theseus

runic agate
#

@languid wing hammer=/boon therefore you cant reroll it

austere jacinth
manic bobcat
pliant sparrow
#

Hammer is via daedelus

#

Bam

runic agate
#

No.....

winter harbor
#

So you’re indirectly persuading Charon?

languid wing
#

@runic agate I wasn’t talking about that. I was talking about dad vs charon

manic bobcat
#

Like Zag phones Charon and says your wares suck man

winter harbor
#

While Daedalus has no means of contacting you and doesn’t even care

runic agate
#

@languid wing oh carp it was a missing sorry the convo moved and I didnt noticw

manic bobcat
runic agate
languid wing
#

All good.

austere jacinth
#

Daedalus is just dropping those things when he's done with 'em. I'd love to meet him (and his son) in game, but the guy's just too busy.

winter harbor
#

I don’t think the hammer association entirely makes sense, he wasn’t exactly known for blacksmithing, but more for being a genius inventor

manic bobcat
#

also, for gameplay sake, reroll hammer would be too op maybe?

runic agate
#

True

languid wing
#

I don’t usually go for hammer myself if it’s vs a boon

runic agate
#

It'd make getting the one you want way too ez

austere jacinth
#

Always prioritise hammers.

winter harbor
#

I don’t like hammer as much in spear

runic agate
#

Depends@austere jacinth

gleaming granite
#

@runic agate i figured out willi speaks german because of his name and profile pic. This cartoon is huge in germany and Czech

hearty sierra
#

Yeah hammer comes back

winter harbor
#

It’s so much harder to aim with triple jab and I don’t really use the special

manic bobcat
#

well percantage wise, I would pick hammer more often than boons

languid wing
#

My prio is usually
Boon
Heart
Hammer
Pom
Resources

hearty sierra
#

So you can avoid hammer sometimes

manic bobcat
#

some weapons need hammer upgrade

austere jacinth
#

Hammer/Double Boon > Boon > Heart > Variable.

runic agate
manic bobcat
#

you would have a hard time on bow without hammer, for example

languid wing
#

Yeah but i usually pass hammers because I run fist, shield, or sword for mostvof my runs

winter harbor
#

If it’s a boon from a god I rate highly, top priority, else I feel free to take obols over it

mint dirge
#

two sword runs back to back with first chamber hammer upgrade w/ cursed slash

#

i love it

austere jacinth
#

You can shotgun special win with bow no issue. Or just Chiron it.

pliant sparrow
#

They all benefit from hammer most tho

austere jacinth
#

But Hammers are ❤️

pliant sparrow
#

Especially fist

languid wing
#

I usually just m1 spam with fist so my playstyle doesn’t fit a lot of special use

winter harbor
#

Fist healing hammer + Patty + sea storm saved my most recent run

manic bobcat
gleaming granite
#

With the gun I feel like cheesing tho.

manic bobcat
#

but yeah. fist isn't that hammer dependent

gleaming granite
#

Not much is asked from me if you get the 3-special-shot, the 300% damage increase and poseidon on your special

languid wing
#

My sword runs usually run the hidden aspect so yeah. Gotta get those crit boons

rancid ember
#

Aw. I accidentally clicked Obols instead of Darkness from Sisyphus. The Darkness is such a better deal. Obols is only slightly more than one chamber's worth, while the darkness is like 5 lol

gleaming granite
#

I sometimes got crits and they were over 1000

austere jacinth
#

Well, Charon will be happy

rancid ember
#

Though I do feel like getting 500 obols from Sisyphus would be a bit ridiculous xD Maybe like, 200 would be good...

pliant sparrow
#

200% behind enemy sword hammer is good for hidden sword

languid wing
#

Yeah backstab crits are a big yikes

pliant sparrow
#

I always get 5k with that

rapid forum
#

Obols is pretty gud tho. Around 150 from me buddy ||sisyphus|| can get you a god from charon

manic bobcat
languid wing
#

I usually just run aphro, athena, artemis on my sword hidden aspect

rancid ember
#

Is hidden sword only defensive ability, or...?

manic bobcat
#

It has an entirely new 3 hit combo, with the third hit having the highest base damage in game.

rancid ember
#

Ooh, I see

manic bobcat
#

Well, not "entirely" new, but quite different.

languid wing
#

It’s very slow in comparison to other weapons but the trade off is justified imo

manic bobcat
#

Yeah, it has the heavy weapon archetype in video game.

unkempt finch
#

how to pay against the onslaught from the Minotaurus ?

manic bobcat
#

You can stay near the walls and dash away last minute

#

Or you can dash through pillars

unkempt finch
#

ah okay

#

thank you

manic bobcat
#

Alternatively, you can look for a Hermes boon that increases your movement speed (Hyper Sprint) and just outrun the cow.

unkempt finch
#

xD

languid wing
#

Outrunning the cow is fun. You can just poke him down if you’re fast enough

rancid ember
#

...is it possible to get Athena/Demeter's Attack boon, Splitting Headache, and Heart Rend on one build? Because if it were I feel like that could be legit terrifying with hidden sword

#

Although, hm

#

the special isn't good for getting hangover very high

#

Though, I think there's that one Hammer that makes your special do two hits...

#

...seems like a theoretical build that would rarely come online to ideal levels XD

manic bobcat
#

Athena Demeter isn't what you are looking for? You meant Aphrodite?

rancid ember
#

I guess Aphrodite's is okay, it's a little weaker

#

But it would fit better into the build

raven lava
#

it relies on getting those exact four gods early enough to give plenty of shots at the duos

rancid ember
#

Wait, no

raven lava
#

but if you get lucky it could be a good build i guess

rancid ember
#

I misread it

#

it's STRONGER

ancient grove
#

||test ||

rancid ember
#

Never mind, just get Aphro's, yeah

raven lava
#

artemis, aphro, dio would have to be in your pool

#

fourth can be whatever

rancid ember
#

Aphro Attack, Dio Special, Artemis Cast...? Seems like a decent setup

manic bobcat
#

Deadly Strike, Divine Flourish, Drunken Dash will let you get Deadly Reversal, Splitting Headache, Calculated Risk

#

If you can finesse Crush Shot, you can also do Heart Rend

rancid ember
#

Hmm. Not bad.

dark scroll
#

Huh, just checked my run. Got 4 duo's. ;p

#

1 legendary with an option right now for 2nd one but gonna skip the apro one in favor of +14% weak damage.

#

Bit unlucky with the casts though. but worst still to come ||EM4||

#

Just hope this run is the bag then I still got +1 and +50% remaining.

brisk trail
#

hi everyone

chilly trench
#

Bought the game two days ago. Already 12 hours and 15 attempts into it

#

0 clears yet

brisk trail
#

my first clear after 50 runs, with god mod since 5 runs 😦

green maple
#

UH

#

IM SCARED

brisk trail
#

why ?

green maple
#

A TINY ||VERMIN|| SCREAMED AT ME

#

NOW IM LEGIT SCARED

quaint hatch
#

Now the fun starts

brisk trail
#

do anyone know what to do to fix a black screen when loading a game if all the usual supports doesn't work ? (sorry for bad english)

winter harbor
#

My first clear took 44 runs

brisk trail
#

watched tomar play the game this time

winter harbor
#

You’ll get there

brisk trail
#

(oneyplays)

#

you guys oneyplays fans?

winter harbor
#

Also, it really helps if you have some idea of synergies between weapons and boons, because you don’t need to dodge as much if you just melt the bosses

brisk trail
#

i heard that theres only 4 bosses per run

#

true?

pliant sparrow
#

No

#

It depends

brisk trail
#

makes sense

pliant sparrow
#

Just play the game and find out lol

brisk trail
#

i assume bosses get unlouckeed after spefic requirements etc

pliant sparrow
#

Some spoilers in here

brisk trail
#

have to wait until birthday

pliant sparrow
brisk trail
#

ty

#

anyone know for black screen on loading please ?

#

but yea once it gets to my birthday ill play

quaint hatch
#

Bosses are not tied to requirements
Just get far enough

pliant sparrow
brisk trail
#

to bad people cant lend a copy

quaint hatch
#

Also it's a roguelite
It's meant to be finished multiple times

#

So more bosses would make a run way longer

brisk trail
#

well yea

manic bobcat
#

you need to clear at least 50 chambers to win the game though.

green maple
#

pog

#

it took me 5 chambers to get that damn snack

#

blast you, cerberus

rancid ember
#

lol nice, I accidentally yeeted my bloodstone off the field

#

It should be fine, I have boonless cast anyway

#

Oh, it came back

#

Holy Heroic Thunder Dash o.o That's nice x3 Hopefully I can build around it a bit...

#

I mean it's replacing PosDash

#

but

green maple
#

ideas about hunting blades?

brisk trail
#

Patroclus is a real one

stone pebble
#

patroclus is a run saver

brisk trail
#

My man replenishing all my Death Defiance's is a real life saver

#

Those were the first thing I maxed out, so I get like 4 back every time

#

Plus thanks to him, I can put up with Theseus

quaint hatch
#

@green maple Hunting blades is nice on achilles

#

Bc 150% dmg boost

winter harbor
#

Patroclus is so good

quaint hatch
#

The worse you are the better patrocleus is

rancid ember
#

4 DDs back

quaint hatch
#

Jk he's nice

rancid ember
#

Are you using Lucky Tooth?

quaint hatch
#

Bruh who uses lucky tooth

rancid ember
#

Spiked Collar gives more HP overall, and there's other things that may be more useful than HP

quaint hatch
#

Acorn ofc

rancid ember
#

A maxed Acorn against Theseus (to say nothing of previous bosses) is worth 100 total HP max. It might be worth more against final boss

#

Though

#

If you're not using all your DDs

#

That 100 HP is pretty good xD

#

I'm bad enough at that fight that I can use all my DDs on just the one fight though, so

winter harbor
#

If your run is going well just take the cyclops jerky

#

If you’ve lost a lot of health but no or only one DD take the hydralite

pliant sparrow
#

damn 10:20 im so close

quaint hatch
#

Final boss ofc

#

But before you should take different stuff than survival shet

pliant sparrow
#

then i can go back to normally playing the game

green maple
quaint hatch
#

Achilles aspect

green maple
#

of which weap... the spear?

#

i only opened my dad's aspect

#

||and vanquished him with his own aspect lol||

rancid ember
#

I was about to post about a boon dilemma, but then I realized I'd rather have Sunken Treasure than a Heroic Tempest Flourish anyway, because I like my permanent rewards lol

#

I already have Epic Thunder Flourish

#

so

#

I just repeatedly failed to dash through hydra's wave attacks and died lol

green maple
#

oops

molten nymph
#

ngl
i got so used to bursting down hydra that i suck at dodging his headslam

#

he ended my 32 shield attempt 4 times in a row before i decided to put down the controller eld

fierce vessel
#

R.I.P

bronze stump
#

hydra moment

fierce vessel
#

Brother?!

bronze stump
#

ok

fierce vessel
#

and max lvl chaos shield

proud harness
#

So I have a little bit of a problem, hoping yall can help me out

#

I played a BUNCH of this game in the beta, beat Hades about 3 times and felt satisfied and stopped. I have all of the base upgrades for the mirror completely maxed, a good amount of the charms maxed too, and it just feels like the runs Im getting just aren't cutting it.

#

I get to hades and get really close but, man, I know I can beat him but I dont have the motivation after realizing that it is almost entirely because of a bad run set up. What do I do? Whats a good set up?

#

It feels ridiculous and kiiiind of boring to be stuck like this

fierce vessel
#

set up as in boon or set up as in weapons?

proud harness
#

Boon or weapons or anything, I have it all maxed out (i usually use spear) and just want to feel like all that progress means something since I can't really go any further right now

bronze stump
#

what is your heat level?

proud harness
#

Keep getting runs where I get a bunch of materials and boons that aren't really what Im looking for

fierce vessel
#

you have all 4 things for each weapon maxed out?

proud harness
#

Base heat level, except I have the underworld timer thing turned on

bronze stump
#

if you aren't getting what you want you might want to think about the weirder keepsakes idk

proud harness
#

also, if I choose the Zeus keepsake, do I tend to get more zeus stuff or just that one time

bronze stump
#

boons try to stay the same

#

so if you pick zeus you might have a better chance to get more zeus boons

fierce vessel
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some of my favorite to take are the overflowing cup and also the horn. but any boon can work, some are better with others and have combos. like posiedon and Aphrodite which makes poms of power give 1 more or try to swap boon keepsakes for a Hermes

proud harness
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thank yall so much 🙏🏼

fierce vessel
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and some weapons are better with some boom and some not, like Dionysus with fist or gun, or the spear with posiedon

fierce vessel
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Also, if you max a few character you earn secret things on the bottom

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in love

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you use the drink and ambrosia after you get the locked form

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and unlock it

mystic steeple
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Hello

fierce vessel
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hi

mystic steeple
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Just wanted to say the Fists of Malphon are sooooooooo fun to use

fierce vessel
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oh? how so? I think the chaos shield is fun because you bash all around

mystic steeple
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True, but there's something just so satisfying about punching the enemies

fierce vessel
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then there are the beep beep cart enemies

sturdy egret
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Hello, I have a question, do I get more bounties if i play hell mode? Can’t seem to get an answer online.

mystic steeple
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Oh yeah, them

half frost
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is there anyway to turn off autopause when I alt+tab

mystic steeple
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Idk why, but personally I could never get the hang of the Shields

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Maybe I just suck with em, idk

fierce vessel
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is it just because do you even bash? it blocks attacks which is why it's a thing you use but not abuse

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you should be melee but can go ranged with some upgrades

mystic steeple
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Eh, ye but I mostly just go pure offensive

proud harness
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also another question, when you complete a run why does it show your skills and give you and option to 'pin' them?

fierce vessel
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on which are stronger on that run? and maybe to note that for later

mystic steeple
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Might be why I'm good with the others, since the Shields are more for a defensive playstyle. (Who would've guessed the Shields would be used for defense?)

fierce vessel
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captain america

mystic steeple
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True

proud harness
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is it common to have the one boon from your favorite god for the whole run?

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Is that a smart thing to do if you like their build?

lament holly
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yep. even better if its the first boon you pick up. more chances to level up

hot surge
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I BEAT IT!

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I GOT THE FINAL BOSS

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

barren dew
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good job

lament holly
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ayyy congrats!

rancid ember
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I remember someone saying that coin gain is turned off on time attack rooms- I'm pretty sure that's not true? I just did one and I saw myself getting coins from killing enemies

mystic steeple
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Spoiler alert, Hades is in Hades

cobalt scarab
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If you are given a random boon/hammer (not chosen), does it still count for the fated prophecies?

foggy isle
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oh my god there is literally no better feeling than using max god gauge and hearing Zag call out to the god and get that response from whatever call you have

rancid ember
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That's an. Interesting emoji

foggy isle
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hehe

stone pebble
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super nut?

foggy isle
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super nut

chilly slate
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Running thru hell with the aspect of Rama and Aphrodite’s boons call that sharing the love

brisk trail
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Hi guys! Hades natively recognize PS4 controller on Epic Games?

rancid ember
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asdf I was SO SURE that I'd pressed the button in time to catch a rare fish but NOPE I just got a common hellfish again

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Also yeah, sorry, I don't know about that :<

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Someone should!

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Actually that should have to do with the platform, I think?

brisk trail
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Thank you so much zagluv

rancid ember
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Does catching rare fish ever get easier?

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Like game mechanic-wise I'm pretty sure the answer is no

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but in people's experience? XD

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OUCH.

I was wondering why I was getting a weird sound every time I cast, which I was doing a lot of, and then I remembered that I had just grabbed a Chaos boon which does damage to me on cast...

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and then I died lol

mystic steeple
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Wait

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You can catch rare fish by pressing the button quickly?!

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I always thought ya ran into those randomly!

flat vapor
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Hades Wiki

Fishing is a minigame available throughout the underworld in various places available after purchasing a Fishing Rod from the House Contractor. Fishing rewards the player with various Artifacts.

winter harbor
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It’s random but also skill based

mystic steeple
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Well, the more you know

faint flint
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so i tried extreme measures for the first time

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rip

quick bone
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I started playing hades yesterday and im loving it

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Im confused about one little thing, I bought the bow for my last run and apparently I still have it after I died?

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did it automatically take one of my keys?

rancid ember
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Weapons are yours permanently once you unlock them

winter harbor
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Yeah, you keep weapons permanently

quick bone
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huh wow

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Then they are a bit on the cheaper side eh?

rancid ember
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That they most certainly are xD

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You're meant to get them all quickly and keep switching between them

quick bone
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1-4 keys are pretty much nothing

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oh okay

rancid ember
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There's a mechanic in place to help encourage switching

quick bone
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thats cool

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good to hear, thanks

mystic steeple
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@quick bone Spoiler Alert, Hades is in Hades

quick bone
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I just got flurry shot for the first time

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It slays!

mystic steeple
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Nice!

manic bobcat
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it does

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flurry shot + twin shot

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is a good time haver

rapid forum
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rocket bomb + cluster bomb

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I just had that with arty special

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absurdly fun

quick bone
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I got this boon where it makes me invincible for 1 second if my god meter is full

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but I can barely ge tit to 1/10th during enounters, any advice?

rapid forum
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there are boons that increase the gauge faster

quick bone
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okay...

winter harbor
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Athena has a boon, proud bearing, that starts the god gauge partially full

quick bone
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also, theres a portal here. havent seen it before but it wants to take away some of my health :(

winter harbor
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That’s a chaos gate

earnest remnant
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Has there been a new patch? I saw Meg used in the Hades bossfight in a stream.

manic bobcat
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and dont' expect to use your call every encouters

quick bone
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Oh okay

winter harbor
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You get a boon at the cost of stuff like not being able to use your attack, not being able to earn money, stuff like that

manic bobcat
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that's quite unreasonable. calls are mainly used for boss/miniboss fights

winter harbor
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But their boons are crazy powerful so it can be worth the downside

winter harbor
manic bobcat
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you need to progress far enough

rapid forum
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reminds me of that one time I got chaos boon with -4 health every attack. I forgot to see chambers and I fought hydra with it and my attack was my source of dps dusa

winter harbor
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I’m scared, did u win?

rapid forum
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yes

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took like

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3 - 5 mins

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not speedrun material dusa

manic bobcat
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well chaos can't kill you

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just don't get it

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simple

rapid forum
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but but muh deeps

winter harbor
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Chaos won’t let you enter if it would kill you by doing so

manic bobcat
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no, like from the curses

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you stay at 1hp

rapid forum
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huh didn't know that

quick bone
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just beat meg again on my last revive and at 6/100hp

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tough run

winter harbor
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Oh huh

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Congrats, now just hope for heal and kiss of Styx from well

quick bone
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hell yea

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Just got it

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lucky me

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the dps is bad but i like the shields block

cedar remnant
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good stuff for ||lucifer||?

manic bobcat
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mostly just Lightning Strike

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though divine flourish helps

molten nymph
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wait, chaos' curse won't kill you?

manic bobcat
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nope

winter harbor
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I love it when I have a Poseidon + Zeus build set up and get sea storm

manic bobcat
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you stay at 1HP though, make sure to put your gamer face on and don't get hit

winter harbor
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Sea storm builds without sea storm feel pretty weak without the duo tho

molten nymph
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||Better than thoughing it up and suffer with special because chaos won't let me attack with beowulf||

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atleast before the SD proc

cedar remnant
molten nymph
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i like the idea of seastorm but i feel like the final result isn't that much better than straight up zeus
...and straight up zeus is way more consistent

manic bobcat
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you are better off with lightning strike, tidal dash and look for seastorm

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super soaker is fun

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but not optimal

molten nymph
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by hte way
if i shotgun an enemy with chaos shield + zeus special
is that one lightning proc or five?

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one right? because cooldown

flat vapor
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basically yeah

quick bone
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woah

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flurry jab cheeses as well

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lol it basically just stunlocks till you just kill them

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its hilariously broken?

manic bobcat
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you will find a lot of fun builds in the game

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for example, fists can stunlock non armored mobs without any hammer

quick bone
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oof

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killing meg was easy

radiant estuary
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Is there a way to keep track of how much you've angered a particular god in trials?

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Because I've heard that if you don't pick a particular god enough times in a row they'll eventually send a mini-boss after you

cedar remnant
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Who told you that

flat vapor
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trial consequences don't last beyond that room

winter harbor
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TV Tropes kind of acts like there is, but yeah, I’ve never noticed trial consequences carrying over

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And as much as I love Artemis, her stuff is easier to dodge so I’ve angered her many times, and I don’t think I’ve noticed her going any more harshly on me

radiant estuary
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I was too ashamed to say it came from TV Tropes myself but that's where I saw it

winter harbor
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Gods must think I love Aphrodite because of the amount of times I’ve chosen her first in a trial

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But I didn’t pick her first one time and her tracking arrow stunned me for so long that I ate so much damage

lament holly
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it do be like that

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me @ ||demeter||

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||Olympus knows no fury like grandma's rage||

winter harbor
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Fear is a stronger motivator than love

carmine ravine
manic bobcat
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yes, but the damage doesn't come from chaos themself.

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it comes from you taking hit

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so it's flavor text, really

quick bone
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That spear carried me all the way to the twin bosses

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Even killed that boney reptile in the first try

winter harbor
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That hydra had a family

carmine ravine
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you killed its family too

quick bone
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:(

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I just stun locked and poked everything to death

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It was hilarious

winter harbor
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You get different colored heads after a certain point, the different heads have different movesets

quick bone
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But the sequence of bosses is always the same right?

winter harbor
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I don’t really keep track of what the different heads do but they are different

robust sundial
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hydra heads : ||bulbs spawn adds, forehead-moustache sends waves, spikes shoot darts.||

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Hades Wiki

The Bone Hydra is what remains of the Lernaean Hydra, slain by the demi-god hero Heracles as part of his Twelve Labors. It now dwells in the fiery Phlegethon river that flows through Asphodel, and guards the passage to Elysium.
The Bone Hydra is the boss encounter for Asphodel, as well as the second boss encountered in every run of Hades. They a...

carmine ravine
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youll get bored if u keep playing the same heat, the same boons and the same weps

quick bone
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There's only one roguelike I've played before hades and I really love it

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Synthetik, in case people here have heard of it

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No clue how famous it is

carmine ravine
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EM, TD, MM, and BP, UC all changes up the game, so that statement is just false

winter harbor
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Extreme measures and the already existing variants of bosses changes it up for me

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I’m at the point in which non EM furies are easy enough that I perfected a fight with them before

carmine ravine
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i think hes still playing low heat so he dont really try some stuff

timber forge
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Hey I have an idea; what if you could give yourself boons in the practice range? And modify the number of dummies and their health?

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Maybe in universe they are skelemeus's sailing comrades who died with him

carmine ravine
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theres a mod for that i hope, you ask the mod server

manic bobcat
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it depends on the pact. some pacts do change the gameplay/ add contents. some are just stats bump.

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Forced Overtime and Tight Deadline, for example, while on paper seem like stats bump, actually force you to play quite differently. So saying heat doesn't diversify gameplay is an over simplified statement.

royal moss
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does shattered shackle work with passive boons?

weary urchin
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you get the boost as long as you dont have a core boon affecting attack/special/cast

royal moss
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that's pretty cool

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playing it with dark foresight and cosmic egg

modest ledge
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Yo uuuuùuùh

granite ether
modest ledge
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Has anyone seen the popper enemies that are meant to spawn from elysium dudes

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Because those are the only kinds of enemies I need for my slashed benefits prophecy

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And I can't find them

slate jetty
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you will run into them eventually

rain thorn
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The souls?

atomic seal
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imo middle management and EM are pretty much only way to diversify the gameplay

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i.e if you have 100% the game with nothing to do

upper carbon
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@quick bone ever try sundered ?

brisk trail
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i hate myself

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i was so close to getting the bad call achievement by letting the elysium dudes regenerate

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accidentally killed my last one right before getting full charge

cold surge
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So I've reached epilogue but I have several side stories to complete still, and haven't maxed any weapons and only have 2 companions. I hope that exploring the rest of the game will be just as satisfying even after reaching epilogue

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I think it will, I just hope I haven't reached the "end" plot wise if I still have side story prophecies to fulfill

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and there are some questions and stuff I'm still invested in

novel wasp
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proceed to nyoom

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@quick bone Hey hey people, Sseth here.

severe flare
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Hades has become boring recently.

warm nebula
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Is cross save between steam and epic working?

severe flare
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I got Lengedary Boons a few times but couldn't purge them.

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Fated persuasion didn't work.

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I can't get the Thanks but no thanks achievement.

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Repetitive gameplay

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Somewhat boring

high island
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Get to higher ||heat||. Play more aspects. squirtnya

severe flare
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Already done

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Play over and over but can't get the last achievement

eternal marlin
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If you couldn't purge them it means you had too many boons squirtheh