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Man, mod it so it plays astromania the louder the closer you are to a flame wheel
OH YES
Also the tempo speeds up
And for every time it hits you it loops another time, the full song
Just get hit lmao
i've been told that wasn't true
someone went into the code and there was no req for it there or something
just room depth for each region
- rng
And I quote:
After reaching the 3rd chamber of Elysium for the first time, Thanatos has a chance to appear in any area except for Temple of Styx. He may appear at the beginning of an encounter (excluding Trials of the Gods) after Zagreus has lost some health in a run. This initiates a contest where they compete to slay more shades than the other, for that encounter. The spawn rate of foes is noticeably higher and the encounter lasts three waves. If Zagreus either kills more enemies than Thanatos does or ties his total, he will award Zagreus a Centaur Heart. Zagreus and Thanatos are immune from each other's attacks.
The wiki's a great resource
bass boosted astromania
yeah, i asked around because the wiki said that
Living up to your cursed content name
apparently he's been known to appear even in no hit runs
But wil
I am already cursed content https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456936596227358720/700710485963833344/unknown.png
So, What if other gods were introduced from other pantheons
XDDD
I did not need Charles' face here
Yes you do
i never noticed chaos has darkness earrings
Just edit James' face on Aphro at this point
do not wish against what your gods' will
And show it to nyaanyaa
please no...
Just make the whole pantheon James Charles
God(s) help us
Dusa but it's James Charles
Hades but its James Charles
Make texturepack
O god
If you do I swear
Send me the link
I will trump Chaos'
sister styx
Like Zeus having the big gay
Im big gay for Hermes
Megaera but James Charles
even tho his original sprite art is ugly
W/ Whip
I like his fanart more tho
I actually like his sprite quite a bit
@hearty sierra whispering ASMR
but lets be real
aphro's sprite is just as faithful to the original material
at the same time
not being you know
Mmm maybe
thotful
ok
Good day!
nah, ill keep it. Ill probably end up playing it still
Not like its a very good game anyway.
Can only pet 1 head.
animators just got lazy probably
or the writers not wanting to write "pet head 1".
Clearly this game will be forgotten shortly.
pet your head then 5head
Hey guys have you all seen this PMV? Spoilers for the final boss and first ending, but if you already know that it’s a beautiful watch: https://youtu.be/GASclCOOSdQ
(Spoilers for the first successful run! And warnings for blood/gore!)
Well I call it a PMV, you all know what this is.
Please consider this my love letter to the game Hades and its creators–for getting me through this year, much as this song has. I'm not much of a gamer myself, but Hades has really stolen my heart and I recommend it to everyo...
I like how "the alcohol in me hum" is at the same time as it shows his sword with a purple glow
also how he shows up to ||persephone|| all beat up
The alcohol affect
well more like dionysus
hungover affect
Yeah it’s a great detail they’ve applied
Oh wow. Two Poseidon boons in a row. And I got Tempest Strike and Razor Shoals (already have Flood Shot). I'm trying for Curse of Drowning though... Wanna see what it's like
I really love how Poseidon boons stack with each other, good luck getting Curse of Drowning!
When I say "two Poseidon boons in a row" I literally mean in two chambers in a row xD
I didn't actually know that was possible
I find Poseidon-heavy builds kind of hilarious xDD
Ooh, probably uncommon for sure!
and totally random if it happens because I know the keepsake only procs once
I have flurry jab too
And they just explode on impact, it’s great 
Just pulverizing them into the wall like tenderizing meat
I'm not sure my Achilles spear is that relevant to this build, but I like it anyway xD
Though hey my special still inflicts Doom
I had a really fun sea storm build with aspect of chiron the other day
Not sure there's that much time to spec the hell out of Doom though
If I had Privileged Access I could actually possibly use it lol
Aspect of Achilles really powers up your flood shot though, do you have infernal soul or stygian soul atm?
Infernal
Nice - it took me a little while to get used to getting my crystals back but now I see why a lot of people prefer it. Stygian is still really nice for convenience, though
Also man, I got healed to full by a fountain and then lost over 100 HP in the next room lol. Freaking chariots. Not even the exploding ones, it just kept looking like I had time to dodge their charges but I didn't
Ooouch, those things are such a pain
Hi hello I just joined because I've played 60 hours of Hades in the last week and I'm losing my mind
omg uh. I have the choice between a +200% damage Frost Flourish (replacing Curse of Pain), or Blizzard Shot.
I'm obviously taking Blizzard Shot, especially since it's the only Fated Choice here, but I bet there's a good few builds that +200% damage on special would be amazing
Frost flourish can be really nice, chill is so helpful
Hi Mini Gremlin, welcome! Also, same - it’s too good!
“I’ll just do one more run and then stop.”
Five ours later with sore thumbs: “For crying out loud!”
I play on PC and I have...82 runs? i think?
Man. Asterius got me down to 5 HP remaining, then I eviscerated Theseus down to half HP... then died to Athena's opening volley lol
ooooooooooof
That was a helluva (quick) fight
But yeah TIL Flurry Jab is hella powerful and can do terrifying amounts of damage lol. I think I was doing at least 10x boonless damage
Not with Flurry Jab alone, mind
but still the amount of damage I did was absurd lol
Athena is so funny, i had her call the other day and accidentally called her while she was punishing me for picking another God, but unlike Artemis the other day she still gave me the call and said “I ought not to help you like this”
Which is nice but also PEAK passive aggressive
I couldn’t believe it
She is a war goddess and possessing of her father's unenviable temper. Be glad it wasn't aggressive-aggressive. xDD
Aggressive-aggressive is what I always expect if I accidently call them while they’re punishing me
Poseidon I imagine would be the most angry tho
the others are mainly fine to stay passive aggressive
Poseidon doesn't have the tact
in game of course
I like Dio's 'I don't want to but, Zag, man, you've forced my hand.' Know-your-place vibes.
Dio is just so out of it, and so down to just vibe
In my experience Artemis gets the most hurt, everyone else is either offended and/or “well now I have to teach you a lesson”
him and Hermes are people I'd genuinely hang out with yknow
that's because Artemis generally sees you as more like her and relates less to others in general so it's a bit more personal I suppose
not romantic ofc
yeah, I really like her and at the same time I’ve had friends like her who dump all their baggage on me and try to make me feel bad for having different opinions or spending time with other people and it’s like “I would not actually want to spend much time with this person”
idk he's half and half in the myths
one half is madness
the other half nice guy
like with ariadne
Some are less awful than others, but from a modern standpoint, none of them are 'good people'
||Demeter|| gets really angry at you for using her call in a trial
Oh man, I bet
I mean, Thanatos mostly just does his job, I guess. Not the nicest job, but he's not written about all too much either.
Hades is the villain so often
Hera really done with zeuses bafoonery
I've heard people say that Hades isn't so bad
I mean in general all societies with different morals, both in the same time period and different time periods consider each other to have worse morals than themselves
I know someone who's actually a Hermeticist (so Greek myth ties into his religion) and he's like "I kind of imagine Hades as a really wholesome god" lol
Ha, not so much xDD
It makes sense that the ancient greeks imagined their gods and goddesses as so vindictive and awful, though, because life in general was incredibly hard. If something awful happened to you it might feel somehow easier to think the gods are angry at you than that things are just chaos and unfair.
And Persephone learned well from Hades, and trapped Adonis herself.
almost all the greek gods are pretty nasty tbh, Dio is the only one who I can think of who is nasty in a not very human way tho
like personality wise Dio is pleasant enough, but he's also somewhat god of madness and it shows in his myths
Some Dio's followers and cults were terrifying.
What do you mean, though? Madness isn’t necessarily inhuman, although we don’t like to think about it
I mean, the crazy-cannibalistic stuff.
greek mythology is wild
Oh yeah.
it's inhuman in the sense of it's not something we do out of emotional flaws, or missteps so to speak, it's not something we can properly comprehend
not without being mad I suppose
Ah I see, that makes sense
I will say there's plenty of 'inhumanity' elsewhere in Greek mythology mind you, given the amount of literally transformative nonsense.
hiya 👋
Heya.
oh of course, it's just most of the gods seem very prone to being vengeful, angry, and jealous, and take it out in rather predictable ways
Most things involving gods/mythology can be considered culty.
Dio just kind of does as he wills, not much malice in it comparatively
he was the one that gave Midas his touch iirc?
some are just more specific and others more 'dangerous'
I think Dio actually rescued Ariadne and married her, when Theseus abandoned her
yep
Curiously, Dionysus is also sometimes considered the most 'human' of the gods. I think Hades (the game) has a little reference to this in his codex, with Achilles mentioning something of the mortal about him. But yeah, he tended to hang on Earth more than Olympus in a lot of versions.
Oh hey I got the scene that unlocked Meg's favor, and I haven't even won my first run lol
And get drunk, have orgies, get some blood offerings, send out the maenads...~
Grats, Seian!
https://strawpoll.com/kpjrs5dqa please vote hades in this poll
Just curious, Have you asked people on a FF discord as well? I think a lot of us will be biased towards Hades here
Not sure what the poll's for but I assume they're trying to make hades win
I'm fine with that xDD
Oh, I thought they were the poll creator at first
this game is a masterpiece 😍
I agree, I gave it a 10/10 for my review easy
It's acceptable.
I agree as well, when I'm done with it I will review it with a 9/10 or 10/10 as well
pretty much love for all the details... you don't see that in most of the triple A games nowadays
yea as a fan of roguelikes and roguelites I see this as a love letter to both greek myth fans and roguelike fans
++
I'm both, so I just find myself fangirling hard
i can't stop playing, i'm loving it
I've not played a roguelike in so long. Nothing really caught my eye. I gave Hades a shot on a whim after seeing a gif from the launch trailer and a positive review. It blew me away.
just got 73 hours in and still feel the same.. can't stop 🙂
I have to say tho I'm disappointed that only like 27% of people have the pet the dog achievement on steam
Bugged.
That’s baffling to me
is it the "pet it 10 times" one?
Oh I thought it was “pet at ALL”
you can only pet 1 head... injustice
But even still 10 times isn’t too much to expect
I pet him every time. He's a good boy.
guess I had that one after my 10th try... I always have to pet animals in games
he is a good boy indeed
I can appreciate that the amount of time and resources they’d have to spend in making the other heads pettable were better spent elsewhere - and it’s nice that there’s an in game reason about Zagreus respecting Cerb’s boundaries
i'm just memeing
guess it's more like lore wise since the 3 heads are seperately acting and have different behaviours
Gonna be DLC.
xD
Yea I heard that multiple times tho Lotus, tbf at least they explain it
Yeah I figured with the “injustice” comment 😆
I'd buy it as well xD
Pet head #2 and Pet Head #3. All proceeds going to animal charity.
Throw in a few voice lines to appease us peasants.
I hope so much for DLCs or expansions or whatever
Guys, just a question. is the story of the game complete or not?
Yup.
I dunno if we'll get anything, and Hades is fantastic as it is... but I would definitely pay for MORE HADES xDD
I think the only I’d add to this game (if I could wish on a star or something) is that you could ||tend to Persephone’s gardens for more farming sim elements|| - I would be OVER THE MOON if that were possible
I'm not at the epilog yet and it already feels so good as it is and I will be pleased as it is now.
It would be a crazy amount of extra development time though
And still I also hope for more! 😛
Kelsey, I would love that too. I made a promise! Let me fulfil it! xDD
Yes, the story is complete Matt
same mordrak, i got ||most gods at the heart lock|| atm
don't wanna spoil anything so just doing more runs and hoping i trigger something
you will 🙂
almost tempted to do suicide runs and throw myself into the asphodel lava
should be faster but
@novel wasp care to do a poggers series of pieces?
Will there be DLCs or updates with more story content?
I like the gameplay too much to do suicide runs, at least so far
Nobody knows.
No idea, Matt.
Unlikely but the better Hades sells the more possibilty I guess?
After the game launched (left early access) the devs decided to take it easy for a bit. They've definitely earned the break!
Probably not, Supergiant Games tends to not release games until they’re in their complete form
To my knowledge, they've not made DLC for their games before. But Hades is also their first roguelike and their first EA game so... -shrugs-
And selling like hotcakes.
If they do some extras I’d be happy to give them more money, but as it is Hades is already a wonderful and complete experience
Makes it more profitable to do dlc aswell. But we can only hope for now.
cough pet head dlc cough
Hades DLC = Shut up and take my money
Mood.
I’d be happy to buy a physical copy as well
Where is Hercules in this game
They could def do that limited run games/website thing. They've done it with Bastion/transistor?
LP included and all.
Heracles is referenced, but he's not in the game.
He needs to make an appearance with his Disney look xD
And for Hercules watch the series. ;p
Wait yes not actually called Hercules
Zag seems to be a bit of a fan of Heracles. He'd be happy to see him, I'm sure.
I can't believe he isn't called Hercules
That's the Roman equivalent.
My life has been a lie
An Aspect of Thanatos was going to be cool
It's just like calling Aphrodite 'Venus', or Ares 'Mars'. xD
I thought they were completely different things :O
As you can tell I'm well versed in Greek mythology
Aspect of Thanatos = Thing dies. Just... dies.
Ha, no worries. Hades is great no matter how much you know ^^
You gotta admit the game would be dope is Disney Hades was the boss xD
I'd rather Disney stay away from most things. ;p
They !@#$ things up on regular basis...
Only recently
The classics are still that
But that's a while different conversation for a whole different server
Aha
There are channels suitable for Disney talk. ^^
So there is aha
Nah, old disney good, new disney bad(ish). We got it covered. Lets talk about Cerby again!
What is he again....?
A dog
i dunno what's happening but im gonna guess that cerberus is "a friend"
A good boi
Also the son of a god.
I'd say best boi but Hypnos took that title 
Hypnos and Cerberus are both best boys, in different ways
hades was relesed befor 1.0 right?
I'll give you that one
this reminds me of "stop pitting queens against each other"
Yeah it was in early access
Hypnos and Cerb get along famously
so im trying to get the dusa blush ting
but the game woun't tell me the task thngy mabob i have to do, do i just need to talk to her more?
progress relationship, talk more
give gallons of nectar to her
i gave 6
also spoiler tag the ||plush/companion|| thing
bruh
fulfill quest
honestly the sheer amount of nectar zag procures and then forces down the throats of others is remarkable
same with ambrosia
then give ambrosia
so basicaly talk lots
do u have her prophecy?
by talking to her enough after u got to her locked heart
i gave her 6 nector and thats about it
need to talk more
also is the 15 keys for blood traid good, it sound good to me
If you have all the weapons already yup
u wanna unlock mirror fully first
but otherwise its great
unfortunately blood has no use for me anymore
i hope they release new weapons so i can instantly max em xD
the last ones are very impactful
I forgot the mirror costs keys 
why a new game when u can expand on a good one
Dlc
i mean they are being nominated for a lot of GOTY awards and got named TIME magazine's game of the year
i looked att wiki last 2 mirror thingys seem great
i mean Supergiant self publish
so i don't think they are going to need a big name publisher unless they want to like. up the budget or somethingf
unfortunately it's not always about needing
waht are super giant games other games
eh, I doubt they will tbh, I'm just glad indie games are more than keeping up with the bigger developers
transistor, bastion, and pyre
i literaly was like hey i remember this game i say on utub that one time
Last 2 mirror thingies are really good
ima try it
TBH we are kinda in the age where indie studios are popular
like the way I see it
unless Supergiatn just doesn't feel like making games anymore
they probably wont sell the company
It’s hard to say Erik, what do you mean by like that? I’d say they’re all slightly different emotional tones
the Supergiant twitter has more followers then the Yacht Club twitter (shovel knight)
But they are all great stories with wonderful characters
oh, more then team cherry too
When you start a run sometimes Hades will talk and highlight a word does this do something to the run?
ima try them then
I don’t believe it affects anything, Milky, just extra flavour
Alright, it's just strange it happens occasionally
Though he did just mention Poseidon and then he was the first god I found
if you combine all the highlighted words you get a sentence
this sentence makes no sense as its just a jumble of words
but makes you think
You might find this interesting, Milky, I don’t know if it includes the things that come up just before runs but I wouldn’t be surprised
I watched the start of that but it went into the mechanic's of the conversations which is awesome but was taking away from me being immersed in the magic of how much dilogue there is, when you find out there's a science to it
I dunno if that makes sense xD
Oh, yeah I can understand that I think!
doing a sword run and the first room is a hammer upgrade with cursed slash gg
time to go fight hades with ||aspect of guan yu|| wish me luck
good luck\
I got completely wrecked but at least i almost made it to the second phase
you will get it next rtime
first time i did it i had
the broken spear point
if that helps
or the acorn
Quick skelly spoiler question: ||What's the exact criterion for finding out who brought him? I read that you have to talk to Hermes while you're holding the tooth keepsake, is that it and I just have bad rng luck?||
To my knowledge, yeah. Pray to RNGesus
Hi, after completing the lounge renovation, is there any point in not converting the gemstones? I mean will there be any more actual reason other than cosmetics to spend the gemstones on the contractor?
there is a few upgrades in the first tab of the house contractor that actually affect the game but other than that no
you can get a cool aquarium
flurry slash, cursed slash with improved attack speed from hermes and nourished soul Zag and EM4 ||Hades|| whilst healing: WHY WON'T YOU JUST DIE
||that moment when you want to fight asterius to get a chance at getting the waking phrase but the game just says no have butterfly ball||
Thanks
||using hades's call against him is hilarious||
heat mechanics question: ||say ive done 1 heat on particular weapon and beaten a few bosses but not won. If I go up to 2+ heat and win will I still be able to get rewards at 1 heat?||
||if you win at 2+ heat when you haven’t completed 1 heat victory yet, in terms of the bounty, it’ll count as your 1 heat victory||
oh very cool tysm
OMFG IM SO HAPPY IM ABOUT TO LEAVE FOR THE 10TH TIME YAAY
hope u have a good build the boss is extra tough 😉
|| hades let's you in for free lmao I already knew that ||
THE END CREDITS SONG IS SOOOOO GOOD
YAAAAAAAY
I said I was going to get the end credits by the end of this weekend and I freaking did it
I won 3 times yesterday and 2 times today
the amount of feelings i have for ||beating hades for the first time last night|| are sm
It's so freaking good
it really is omg
||It's in the blood|| is the best song in this game no joke
|| omfg Cerberus is so cuteeeeee ||
|| HADES STANDING IN A DEFEATED MANNER IS AWESOME GET REKT YOU OLD BASTRAD ||
||POM BLOSSOM LES GOOOOO||
I've got every keepsake other then ||Hades' keepsake||
looking at the Steam achievement, 45% of players cleared the first run
that's surprisingly high
zagreus pls marrye mee
addictive and well made game
that compared to 30% first run clear in RoR2
im just lookng at average first run completion right now per Steam achievement
interesting stuff
Combination of impactful metaprogression, compelling gameplay loop, and a lot of story reward for playing
I can see why 45% of players have completed one run
that number will continue to rise i imagine
I will drink to that 
Yeah the story probably pushed that extra 15%
Since both games has pretty good loops
Some well-known games global "first run" completion rate:
The Binding of Isaac: 74% (Mom), 36.8% (Mom's Heart)
Hades: 43.8%
Risk of Rain 2: 29.4%
Witcher 3: 27.3%
Transistor: 25.1%
Bastion: 15.2%
Darkest Dungeon: 3.2% (lol)
if it were a regular roguelike i would be concerned lol
not a great sample size, but Hades completion rate is quite high, if not the best depending on how you view Isaac
Ah yes. DD the game you love to play but never complete kekw
wait, what about satan? in tboi? because it can happen
i'm trying to do a "first clear" completion rate
clearing satan in tboi is like clearing epilogue in Hades, not fair comparisin
Slay the spire? Monster train?
also, what devise do you play on
enter the gungeon?
StS and Monster Train are also nice
Different gameplay tho in comparison to the lst
ah yes, the Ironchad
data from my Steam achievement page, I just look for % beat the story
Its not based on reflexes either, which helps too
what about.... atomicrops?
13.4% "full" completion for Hollow Knight, which is also quite impressive for a metroidvania
I’ve never played that but the bosses sound really hard
in hollow knight? it's hollow knight
23.9% for EtG
in short, Hades has a great pull
addictive gameplay isn't just this Discord bias, data does kinda back it up 😄
Great art too
hades is addictive, but the ending is sad (I only did the normal ending)
if you keep going, ||it doesn't have to be that way.||
Yeah, also how hard is charon? I never fought him
Difficult
Really hard
Very simple moveset
LIKE REALLY HARD
He hits like a truck
Depends on what stage of game ur on
he hits hard, his move set isn't exactly unbeatable
it's his damage his health
He just slaps the whole screen
he's the epitome of just don't get hit
Charon||>Hades||
But by ||Hades|| your build should be finished
but he also slaps
By Charon, even in the mid stage elysium fight, it won’t be
True but ||hades|| doesnt hit like a truck and hit half the screen
Really? I find him easier than ||dad||
and hades beam kills you if you are not hiding
Just go behind him lmao
dash on top of him
there's a safe spot on top of him
I get scared
Beam is the joke of a attack
which boss is your least favorite? the heroes are mine most likely
Hydra
||depends on EM4||
Always takes the longest
I can do heroes in like 20 secs but hydra takes at least 50
I stand behind a pole ||hope no skull detonates in the meantime and breath slowly|| until it's over
also, hydra sucks but is a joke with moves that hit more enemies like fog or lightning
What's that?
||Extreme Measure 4, Hades is upgraded with new move sets and other stuff||
why i dont become any more weapon upgrade materials after unlocked the mechanic to upgrade my weapons ?
@manic bobcat O
for the hydra ||I skip the last phase with than or meg nuking it||
worse mini boss is the whitches
Excuse? Try english
sry my english isnt good 😦 from meg the first boss
you can get materials to upgrade your weapons
You will need to beat the game once to unlock the mechanics that allow you to farm materials.
You have to beat the game once then you will figure it out
@unkempt finch can I assume you speak german?
yes xD
that's kinda rude
I get mad when grammar that poor is used not on purpose
Haha ok. Ja du musst das Spiel einmal durch haben, dann eröffnen sich dir neue Möglichkeiten
Well not everyone here is native English speaker.
ah okay xD ich war einmal ganz knapp dran da hatte hades nur noch 1/3 mit dem schild, das ist echt viel stärker als die anderen waffen denke ich 😮
@runic agate it was clear to me what he asked even with the poor grammar.
You can also trade at wretched broker for materials
Das Schild ist echt geil. Mein Liebling bleibt der Bogen aber mit dem Schild spiele ich auch echt gern.
Viel Erfolg! Übung macht da echt den Meister
@gleaming granite you could figure out what his first language was so I imagine you would have gone though a phase where you spoke like that therefore making it easier to understand them
🙂 okay now lets continue in english ^^
Wenn ich mir vorstelle wie lang ich gebraucht hab um an Meg vorbei zu kommen oder an Theseus und Asterois
so noboady is offended by us speaking german xD
Man, I envy multi-linguists so much. My dad was born in Hamburg and my German is terrible!
as long as you guys don't abuse it.
mhm i got 15 trys too already 😮
|| Em 4 Dad || vs || Charon || will prob a bit more contending. Main problem with the latter is you are forced to fight him pre-finished build
Well somebody is offended by you speaking not in your native tongue
Keep going!
Heroes suck
I.. Am at 150 tries now
Why cant i reroll hammers?
I just suck it up and whail on them knowing I lvled up hp high enough to not proc death defiance
Have you killed hades yet? @gleaming granite
I don’t think Theseus and asterius are that bad
Yeah sure.
@languid wing its technically not a boon
No clue why you can’t reroll hammers, you just can’t
But well isnt a boon either
The roll is called Fated PERSUATION. How do you persuade an inanimate object?
You can reroll boons and well of Charon tho
What boon?
Hammer
I think you mispinged kekw
How do you persuade a well?
||EM|| Asterois is so much harder than theseus
@languid wing hammer=/boon therefore you cant reroll it
This conjured a wonderful image of Zag trying to negotiate with/persuade the hammer.
Well is via Charon?
No.....
So you’re indirectly persuading Charon?
@runic agate I wasn’t talking about that. I was talking about dad vs charon
Like Zag phones Charon and says your wares suck man
While Daedalus has no means of contacting you and doesn’t even care
@languid wing oh carp it was a missing sorry the convo moved and I didnt noticw
Except Hammer is left behind by Dea
That's what I thought lmao
All good.
LMFAO
Daedalus is just dropping those things when he's done with 'em. I'd love to meet him (and his son) in game, but the guy's just too busy.
I don’t think the hammer association entirely makes sense, he wasn’t exactly known for blacksmithing, but more for being a genius inventor
also, for gameplay sake, reroll hammer would be too op maybe?
True
I don’t usually go for hammer myself if it’s vs a boon
It'd make getting the one you want way too ez
Always prioritise hammers.
I don’t like hammer as much in spear
Depends@austere jacinth
@runic agate i figured out willi speaks german because of his name and profile pic. This cartoon is huge in germany and Czech
Yeah hammer comes back
It’s so much harder to aim with triple jab and I don’t really use the special
well percantage wise, I would pick hammer more often than boons
My prio is usually
Boon
Heart
Hammer
Pom
Resources
So you can avoid hammer sometimes
some weapons need hammer upgrade
Hammer/Double Boon > Boon > Heart > Variable.
Thats..... kinda... ok whatever
you would have a hard time on bow without hammer, for example
Yeah but i usually pass hammers because I run fist, shield, or sword for mostvof my runs
If it’s a boon from a god I rate highly, top priority, else I feel free to take obols over it
two sword runs back to back with first chamber hammer upgrade w/ cursed slash
i love it
You can shotgun special win with bow no issue. Or just Chiron it.
They all benefit from hammer most tho
But Hammers are ❤️
Especially fist
I usually just m1 spam with fist so my playstyle doesn’t fit a lot of special use
Fist healing hammer + Patty + sea storm saved my most recent run
well Breaching Cross is great on fists.
With the gun I feel like cheesing tho.
but yeah. fist isn't that hammer dependent
Not much is asked from me if you get the 3-special-shot, the 300% damage increase and poseidon on your special
My sword runs usually run the hidden aspect so yeah. Gotta get those crit boons
Aw. I accidentally clicked Obols instead of Darkness from Sisyphus. The Darkness is such a better deal. Obols is only slightly more than one chamber's worth, while the darkness is like 5 lol
I sometimes got crits and they were over 1000
Well, Charon will be happy
Though I do feel like getting 500 obols from Sisyphus would be a bit ridiculous xD Maybe like, 200 would be good...
200% behind enemy sword hammer is good for hidden sword
Yeah backstab crits are a big yikes
I always get 5k with that
Obols is pretty gud tho. Around 150 from me buddy ||sisyphus|| can get you a god from charon
I usually just run aphro, athena, artemis on my sword hidden aspect
Is hidden sword only defensive ability, or...?
It has an entirely new 3 hit combo, with the third hit having the highest base damage in game.
Ooh, I see
Well, not "entirely" new, but quite different.
It’s very slow in comparison to other weapons but the trade off is justified imo
Yeah, it has the heavy weapon archetype in video game.
how to pay against the onslaught from the Minotaurus ?
You can stay near the walls and dash away last minute
Or you can dash through pillars
Alternatively, you can look for a Hermes boon that increases your movement speed (Hyper Sprint) and just outrun the cow.
xD
Outrunning the cow is fun. You can just poke him down if you’re fast enough
...is it possible to get Athena/Demeter's Attack boon, Splitting Headache, and Heart Rend on one build? Because if it were I feel like that could be legit terrifying with hidden sword
Although, hm
the special isn't good for getting hangover very high
Though, I think there's that one Hammer that makes your special do two hits...
...seems like a theoretical build that would rarely come online to ideal levels XD
Athena Demeter isn't what you are looking for? You meant Aphrodite?
I guess Aphrodite's is okay, it's a little weaker
But it would fit better into the build
so heart rend is artemis/aphro and splitting headache is artemis/dio
so you need those three in your pool for those two duos
and you could make the fourth athena or demeter as you choose
it relies on getting those exact four gods early enough to give plenty of shots at the duos
Wait, no
but if you get lucky it could be a good build i guess
||test ||
Never mind, just get Aphro's, yeah
Aphro Attack, Dio Special, Artemis Cast...? Seems like a decent setup
Deadly Strike, Divine Flourish, Drunken Dash will let you get Deadly Reversal, Splitting Headache, Calculated Risk
If you can finesse Crush Shot, you can also do Heart Rend
Hmm. Not bad.
Huh, just checked my run. Got 4 duo's. ;p
1 legendary with an option right now for 2nd one but gonna skip the apro one in favor of +14% weak damage.
Bit unlucky with the casts though. but worst still to come ||EM4||
Just hope this run is the bag then I still got +1 and +50% remaining.
hi everyone
Bought the game two days ago. Already 12 hours and 15 attempts into it
0 clears yet
my first clear after 50 runs, with god mod since 5 runs 😦
why ?
Now the fun starts
do anyone know what to do to fix a black screen when loading a game if all the usual supports doesn't work ? (sorry for bad english)
My first clear took 44 runs
watched tomar play the game this time
You’ll get there
Also, it really helps if you have some idea of synergies between weapons and boons, because you don’t need to dodge as much if you just melt the bosses
makes sense
Just play the game and find out lol
i assume bosses get unlouckeed after spefic requirements etc
Some spoilers in here
have to wait until birthday
#h1-for-new-players might be better
ty
anyone know for black screen on loading please ?
but yea once it gets to my birthday ill play
Bosses are not tied to requirements
Just get far enough
^
Also it's a roguelite
It's meant to be finished multiple times
So more bosses would make a run way longer
well yea
you need to clear at least 50 chambers to win the game though.
lol nice, I accidentally yeeted my bloodstone off the field
It should be fine, I have boonless cast anyway
Oh, it came back
Holy Heroic Thunder Dash o.o That's nice x3 Hopefully I can build around it a bit...
I mean it's replacing PosDash
but
ideas about hunting blades?
Patroclus is a real one
patroclus is a run saver
My man replenishing all my Death Defiance's is a real life saver
Those were the first thing I maxed out, so I get like 4 back every time
Plus thanks to him, I can put up with Theseus
Patroclus is so good
The worse you are the better patrocleus is
4 DDs back
Jk he's nice
Are you using Lucky Tooth?
Bruh who uses lucky tooth
Spiked Collar gives more HP overall, and there's other things that may be more useful than HP
Acorn ofc
A maxed Acorn against Theseus (to say nothing of previous bosses) is worth 100 total HP max. It might be worth more against final boss
Though
If you're not using all your DDs
That 100 HP is pretty good xD
I'm bad enough at that fight that I can use all my DDs on just the one fight though, so
If your run is going well just take the cyclops jerky
If you’ve lost a lot of health but no or only one DD take the hydralite
damn 10:20 im so close
then i can go back to normally playing the game
achilles... be like...in which context you mean...?
Achilles aspect
of which weap... the spear?
i only opened my dad's aspect
||and vanquished him with his own aspect lol||
I was about to post about a boon dilemma, but then I realized I'd rather have Sunken Treasure than a Heroic Tempest Flourish anyway, because I like my permanent rewards lol
I already have Epic Thunder Flourish
so
I just repeatedly failed to dash through hydra's wave attacks and died lol
oops
ngl
i got so used to bursting down hydra that i suck at dodging his headslam
he ended my 32 shield attempt 4 times in a row before i decided to put down the controller 
R.I.P
hydra moment
Brother?!
ok
and max lvl chaos shield
So I have a little bit of a problem, hoping yall can help me out
I played a BUNCH of this game in the beta, beat Hades about 3 times and felt satisfied and stopped. I have all of the base upgrades for the mirror completely maxed, a good amount of the charms maxed too, and it just feels like the runs Im getting just aren't cutting it.
I get to hades and get really close but, man, I know I can beat him but I dont have the motivation after realizing that it is almost entirely because of a bad run set up. What do I do? Whats a good set up?
It feels ridiculous and kiiiind of boring to be stuck like this
set up as in boon or set up as in weapons?
Boon or weapons or anything, I have it all maxed out (i usually use spear) and just want to feel like all that progress means something since I can't really go any further right now
what is your heat level?
Keep getting runs where I get a bunch of materials and boons that aren't really what Im looking for
you have all 4 things for each weapon maxed out?
Base heat level, except I have the underworld timer thing turned on
if you aren't getting what you want you might want to think about the weirder keepsakes idk
also, if I choose the Zeus keepsake, do I tend to get more zeus stuff or just that one time
boons try to stay the same
so if you pick zeus you might have a better chance to get more zeus boons
some of my favorite to take are the overflowing cup and also the horn. but any boon can work, some are better with others and have combos. like posiedon and Aphrodite which makes poms of power give 1 more or try to swap boon keepsakes for a Hermes
thank yall so much 🙏🏼
and some weapons are better with some boom and some not, like Dionysus with fist or gun, or the spear with posiedon
Also, if you max a few character you earn secret things on the bottom
in love
you use the drink and ambrosia after you get the locked form
and unlock it
Hello
hi
Just wanted to say the Fists of Malphon are sooooooooo fun to use
oh? how so? I think the chaos shield is fun because you bash all around
True, but there's something just so satisfying about punching the enemies
then there are the beep beep cart enemies
Hello, I have a question, do I get more bounties if i play hell mode? Can’t seem to get an answer online.
Oh yeah, them
is there anyway to turn off autopause when I alt+tab
Idk why, but personally I could never get the hang of the Shields
Maybe I just suck with em, idk
is it just because do you even bash? it blocks attacks which is why it's a thing you use but not abuse
you should be melee but can go ranged with some upgrades
Eh, ye but I mostly just go pure offensive
also another question, when you complete a run why does it show your skills and give you and option to 'pin' them?
on which are stronger on that run? and maybe to note that for later
Might be why I'm good with the others, since the Shields are more for a defensive playstyle. (Who would've guessed the Shields would be used for defense?)
captain america
True
is it common to have the one boon from your favorite god for the whole run?
Is that a smart thing to do if you like their build?
yep. even better if its the first boon you pick up. more chances to level up
good job
ayyy congrats!
I remember someone saying that coin gain is turned off on time attack rooms- I'm pretty sure that's not true? I just did one and I saw myself getting coins from killing enemies
Spoiler alert, Hades is in Hades
If you are given a random boon/hammer (not chosen), does it still count for the fated prophecies?
oh my god there is literally no better feeling than using max god gauge and hearing Zag call out to the god and get that response from whatever call you have

That's an. Interesting emoji
hehe
super nut?
super nut
Running thru hell with the aspect of Rama and Aphrodite’s boons call that sharing the love
Hi guys! Hades natively recognize PS4 controller on Epic Games?
asdf I was SO SURE that I'd pressed the button in time to catch a rare fish but NOPE I just got a common hellfish again
Also yeah, sorry, I don't know about that :<
Someone should!
Actually that should have to do with the platform, I think?
I found this
Thank you so much 
Does catching rare fish ever get easier?
Like game mechanic-wise I'm pretty sure the answer is no
but in people's experience? XD
OUCH.
I was wondering why I was getting a weird sound every time I cast, which I was doing a lot of, and then I remembered that I had just grabbed a Chaos boon which does damage to me on cast...
and then I died lol
Wait
You can catch rare fish by pressing the button quickly?!
I always thought ya ran into those randomly!
It’s random but also skill based
Well, the more you know
I started playing hades yesterday and im loving it
Im confused about one little thing, I bought the bow for my last run and apparently I still have it after I died?
did it automatically take one of my keys?
Weapons are yours permanently once you unlock them
Yeah, you keep weapons permanently
That they most certainly are xD
You're meant to get them all quickly and keep switching between them
There's a mechanic in place to help encourage switching
@quick bone Spoiler Alert, Hades is in Hades
Nice!
I got this boon where it makes me invincible for 1 second if my god meter is full
but I can barely ge tit to 1/10th during enounters, any advice?
there are boons that increase the gauge faster
okay...
Athena has a boon, proud bearing, that starts the god gauge partially full
also, theres a portal here. havent seen it before but it wants to take away some of my health :(
That’s a chaos gate
Has there been a new patch? I saw Meg used in the Hades bossfight in a stream.
you don't need the full charge, just 25% i think
and dont' expect to use your call every encouters
Oh okay
You get a boon at the cost of stuff like not being able to use your attack, not being able to earn money, stuff like that
that's quite unreasonable. calls are mainly used for boss/miniboss fights
But their boons are crazy powerful so it can be worth the downside
You get permission after a while
yeah, it was available at 1.0, but its' lore locked
you need to progress far enough
reminds me of that one time I got chaos boon with -4 health every attack. I forgot to see chambers and I fought hydra with it and my attack was my source of dps 
I’m scared, did u win?
but but muh deeps
Chaos won’t let you enter if it would kill you by doing so
huh didn't know that
good stuff for ||lucifer||?
wait, chaos' curse won't kill you?
nope
I love it when I have a Poseidon + Zeus build set up and get sea storm
you stay at 1HP though, make sure to put your gamer face on and don't get hit
Sea storm builds without sea storm feel pretty weak without the duo tho
||Better than thoughing it up and suffer with special because chaos won't let me attack with beowulf||
atleast before the SD proc
Ok, I'll try that thanks
i like the idea of seastorm but i feel like the final result isn't that much better than straight up zeus
...and straight up zeus is way more consistent
you are better off with lightning strike, tidal dash and look for seastorm
super soaker is fun
but not optimal
by hte way
if i shotgun an enemy with chaos shield + zeus special
is that one lightning proc or five?
one right? because cooldown
basically yeah
woah
flurry jab cheeses as well
lol it basically just stunlocks till you just kill them
its hilariously broken?
you will find a lot of fun builds in the game
for example, fists can stunlock non armored mobs without any hammer
Is there a way to keep track of how much you've angered a particular god in trials?
Because I've heard that if you don't pick a particular god enough times in a row they'll eventually send a mini-boss after you
Who told you that
trial consequences don't last beyond that room
TV Tropes kind of acts like there is, but yeah, I’ve never noticed trial consequences carrying over
And as much as I love Artemis, her stuff is easier to dodge so I’ve angered her many times, and I don’t think I’ve noticed her going any more harshly on me
I was too ashamed to say it came from TV Tropes myself but that's where I saw it
Gods must think I love Aphrodite because of the amount of times I’ve chosen her first in a trial
But I didn’t pick her first one time and her tracking arrow stunned me for so long that I ate so much damage
it do be like that
me @ ||demeter||
||Olympus knows no fury like grandma's rage||
Fear is a stronger motivator than love
actually, if u dies at that, chaos does appear in death screen with quotes
yes, but the damage doesn't come from chaos themself.
it comes from you taking hit
so it's flavor text, really
That spear carried me all the way to the twin bosses
Even killed that boney reptile in the first try
That hydra had a family
you killed its family too
You get different colored heads after a certain point, the different heads have different movesets
But the sequence of bosses is always the same right?
I don’t really keep track of what the different heads do but they are different
hydra heads : ||bulbs spawn adds, forehead-moustache sends waves, spikes shoot darts.||
The Bone Hydra is what remains of the Lernaean Hydra, slain by the demi-god hero Heracles as part of his Twelve Labors. It now dwells in the fiery Phlegethon river that flows through Asphodel, and guards the passage to Elysium.
The Bone Hydra is the boss encounter for Asphodel, as well as the second boss encountered in every run of Hades. They a...
youll get bored if u keep playing the same heat, the same boons and the same weps
There's only one roguelike I've played before hades and I really love it
Synthetik, in case people here have heard of it
No clue how famous it is
EM, TD, MM, and BP, UC all changes up the game, so that statement is just false
Extreme measures and the already existing variants of bosses changes it up for me
I’m at the point in which non EM furies are easy enough that I perfected a fight with them before
i think hes still playing low heat so he dont really try some stuff
Hey I have an idea; what if you could give yourself boons in the practice range? And modify the number of dummies and their health?
Maybe in universe they are skelemeus's sailing comrades who died with him
theres a mod for that i hope, you ask the mod server
it depends on the pact. some pacts do change the gameplay/ add contents. some are just stats bump.
Forced Overtime and Tight Deadline, for example, while on paper seem like stats bump, actually force you to play quite differently. So saying heat doesn't diversify gameplay is an over simplified statement.
does shattered shackle work with passive boons?
you get the boost as long as you dont have a core boon affecting attack/special/cast
Yo uuuuùuùh

Has anyone seen the popper enemies that are meant to spawn from elysium dudes
Because those are the only kinds of enemies I need for my slashed benefits prophecy
And I can't find them
you will run into them eventually
The souls?
I loved it
imo middle management and EM are pretty much only way to diversify the gameplay
i.e if you have 100% the game with nothing to do
@quick bone ever try sundered ?
i hate myself
i was so close to getting the bad call achievement by letting the elysium dudes regenerate
accidentally killed my last one right before getting full charge
So I've reached epilogue but I have several side stories to complete still, and haven't maxed any weapons and only have 2 companions. I hope that exploring the rest of the game will be just as satisfying even after reaching epilogue
I think it will, I just hope I haven't reached the "end" plot wise if I still have side story prophecies to fulfill
and there are some questions and stuff I'm still invested in
Hades has become boring recently.
Is cross save between steam and epic working?
I got Lengedary Boons a few times but couldn't purge them.
Fated persuasion didn't work.
I can't get the Thanks but no thanks achievement.

Repetitive gameplay
Somewhat boring
Get to higher ||heat||. Play more aspects. 
If you couldn't purge them it means you had too many boons 