h1-discussion

[quaint hatch]

Or dm or whatever

[fluid tusk]

lol one of the most stupid builds i've ever done was with the aspect of ||arthur|| on stygian with athena boons

basically, set a field of slow

[quaint hatch]

Also spoiler tag that pls

[fluid tusk]

wait for projectiles, then parry

[quaint hatch]

Most anime

[green maple]

Anime

[quaint hatch]

Secret aspects are spoilers in here

[green maple]

Your autocorrect is going chad mode

[fluid tusk]

wait really oh

[quaint hatch]

Nah I meant that

[green maple]

Oh?

[quaint hatch]

Always reminds me of kh2 final boss when a million projectiles enter your field
Slow down
And you just slap em back

Anime af

Although I prefer dash srike build on secret sword

[fluid tusk]

yea yeah, i even got riposte and exposed boons too haha

[green maple]

Hmmmm

Secret sword...

[fluid tusk]

the other dumb build i did was with the secret gun

[quaint hatch]

Super soaker go brrr

[green maple]

Do i have to pour some blood in it for the secret sword?

[fluid tusk]

took all the beyblade talents from ares

[quaint hatch]

Not at all

[green maple]

WHAY

WHAT

[fluid tusk]

then took the cluster nukes daedalus upgrades, and demeter call

[quaint hatch]

Achilles is better for beyblade

[fluid tusk]

and screen is now filled with nukes, beyblades and whirlwinds haha

[quaint hatch]

Also demeter call is the worst call lol

[green maple]

Beyblade call is just sexy

[quaint hatch]

Cast

[fluid tusk]

but its beybladeeee

[green maple]

It works the boss out

[quaint hatch]

Call is bad

[fluid tusk]

let a riiipp lol

[quaint hatch]

Ares and dem are worst calls

[green maple]

For real?

Damn

[quaint hatch]

Lowest dmg

[green maple]

What have i been doing my whole 70 runs

Picking ares and deme calls

Ive seen people calling out for athena

[fluid tusk]

i think demeter call is just fine, you're not in for the damage its more about the chill

[quaint hatch]

Doesn't mean you can't use em, for duos f.e. but it's more for fun

[cinder lichen]

I think I like having Demeter for area control. Ares, been trying to make it work.

[green maple]

And i love it when i get the chilly casts

Ice wine was epic

[quaint hatch]

Zeus, poseidon and dio are prolly the strongest

[narrow hemlock]

ares is nice in a pinch for avoiding damage

not everything is about dealing dmg lol

[cinder lichen]

Mhm

IV frames, forgot about that

[quaint hatch]

Ares is just awful version of poseidon

[green maple]

Lmao

[narrow hemlock]

dont disrespect my boy like that

[quaint hatch]

The call I mean

[fluid tusk]

idk, my goto build is secret bow aspect with the homing specials with artemis boons

[quaint hatch]

Tf

[fluid tusk]

especially if i can get the daedalus that gives +4 bolts, and consecutive hits

[quaint hatch]

What now? Chiron or secret bow?

[fluid tusk]

i just delete bosses

[quaint hatch]

I think you're mashing two together

Chiron has the homing

[fluid tusk]

the one where u hit once with ure normal

then its tagged

[quaint hatch]

Chiron

[fluid tusk]

then u special

yeah thats the one

[quaint hatch]

Only secret aspects are spoiler

[green maple]

+guys, is DD worth when i really like using the tactic of dying when im lower than 30%hp if i have stubborn defiance

[quaint hatch]

DD is way better

Unless ur at super high heats

[green maple]

Hmmm

[quaint hatch]

Sd will always only be 1 revive per room

Which you mostly shouldn't need

[green maple]

What does pat do when i choose the heal thingy if i have dd?

[fluid tusk]

i never take that one, cuz i usually never die anyway in most stuff

[quaint hatch]

Also having 3 gives you a lot of time to replenish

You'll mostly need your DD's in problem rooms/bosses not every room

[fluid tusk]

especially if ure fighting in extremest measures lol

which i proudly beat without loosing single life once haha

[quaint hatch]

What you mean

[green maple]

Like

||touch of styx premium||

[quaint hatch]

Oh it'll restore all your DD

[green maple]

WHAT

[quaint hatch]

You have much to learn it seems

Also I hope youve enabled dark foresight and family favourite

[green maple]

Well if you check the boast channel out

I hane my mirror there

*have

[quaint hatch]

Deep pockets
Try it

Also dark regen

[winter harbor]

I’m mixed between deep pockets and golden touch because I don’t spend a lot in the beginning of a run anyway

[green maple]

Whats the matter of dark regen when i keeo my heat up for new bounties

[quaint hatch]

You will have like what? 50 chambers on average? That's 150-200 heal you'll get from the one you have

[green maple]

Mhm

[quaint hatch]

With dark regen a trove will ready be 150 heal

Every darkness room? Heal

[green maple]

Trove....hmmm...

[quaint hatch]

Darkness at a shop? Heal

Darkness in pool? Heal

[green maple]

Wait so

It

Wait how much does it give?

30% of the darkness?

[quaint hatch]

I think like 50% at max

Lemme boot up my game sec

[green maple]

Hmmm

[rancid ember]

It's 60% at max

[green maple]

WHAY

[quaint hatch]

Yeah 60

[green maple]

OH GODS

[quaint hatch]

It's way more heal than cthonic will give you

[green maple]

60% would come in big if i get darkness from bosses

Omg

[quaint hatch]

Even without that

You'll just get way more on average

Also 100 gold from deep gold is more impactful

Imo

[rancid ember]

I don't normally get that much darkness in a run outside of darkness and Sisy

er

[green maple]

I dont spend gold until elysium tho

[rancid ember]

bosses and Sisy

[quaint hatch]

I take as many money rooms as possible
Shops are free rooms and free boon

Even 1 trove will already heal you 109 on average

[rancid ember]

like I may well get no darkness in a run aside from bosses at all

[green maple]

Anyways ill be dipping from chat

Take carrreeeee latterrr

[quaint hatch]

I main dark regen
And dark foresight
I get more than enough darkness for it to be better on average than vitality

Cya m8

[astral swift]

It's nearly midnight but thank you Voldi :> I did some eyes and I like them ;^;

[quaint hatch]

It's 4:30 am for me :3

I knew it all along

[astral swift]

Now I'm just concerned

[quaint hatch]

It's weekend

[tepid plover]

time in the underworld works different

let me check

yep

7:48

[quaint hatch]

Dm me those eyes

[runic agate]

|| 7TH win in the bank ||

[quaint hatch]

EZ

[tepid plover]

😳

[quaint hatch]

You don't need to tag that m8

[runic agate]

ive won 3 times today

[tepid plover]

pog

[quaint hatch]

Be proud of your wins

Show em

[runic agate]

i dont have the vicotry pic lol sorry

[tepid plover]

did you post it in #h1-victory-boasting

?

[runic agate]

i dont have the pic

[quaint hatch]

He predicted you dio

[tepid plover]

smh

[runic agate]

but it boils down to

[tepid plover]

oh

crap he did

hes from the future

[quaint hatch]

Imagine being able to time travel

[runic agate]

posiden and 55% attack speed

[quaint hatch]

And you're like "I'm gonna spook someone on an indie game discord"

[tepid plover]

guess you can go back and take the screenshot

with your time traveling powers

[runic agate]

and ||hades|| got shredded

how do i go back to get the pic of the screen?

[quaint hatch]

Aight guess imma dip bois

[tepid plover]

he had a vip ticket on charons ride

[quaint hatch]

Have a pleasant whatever time

[tepid plover]

it was a time travel joke

[runic agate]

oh

well i can send this

[quaint hatch]

Cheese

[tepid plover]

i mean you can go to the logs

[quaint hatch]

This will make more sense in the future

[tepid plover]

pls no more time traveling references

go to sleep boulder

[quaint hatch]

I will play card games
Then sloop

[tepid plover]

what card games

[quaint hatch]

Shadowverse

[runic agate]

sent it in boasting go look

[quaint hatch]

Maybe Legends of Runeterra

[topaz sequoia]

My partner just said "time to go see my thembo down below" while dropping down to Chaos

[quaint hatch]

Yeah ok I'm out now

[runic agate]

||BITCI IM COMING BACK TO SEE YOU YOU CANT STOP ME||

[lethal socket]

who do you get evergreen acorn from

please

[ocean seal]

Random encounter in Asphodel

[lethal socket]

i need to know

ohj ok

[rose nexus]

u knnow why zag eats fries with his gyro

because the first french fries are from greece , ,im losing my mind

[tepid plover]

zag doesnt even fry his onions

[rapid forum]

pretty sure he doesn't even cook

just get some ingredients and head to asphodel

[brisk trail]

I'm having fun with hades

[alpine fulcrum]

my brain is poisoned.. im thinking "well probably aphrodite attack is best for hestia aspect" but then im like "but artemis....."

[manic bobcat]

Artemis is better imo

That and Hunter Dash

for optimal oomph

[storm terrace]

I fully hearted Ares and Chaos : D

[brisk trail]

gg!

i honestly forgot u could do that with the gods Woops

[storm terrace]

I was simpin for Ares so...

[quaint wind]

we should all rise to fully heart chaos

theyre so cool

[green maple]

Ayyyy ares simppppp

I also simp for ares

The doom dmg and the blade rift

[storm terrace]

Ares is my fav god, legit follow and all that jaz.

[cinder lichen]

I feel like if you were able to modify your game to only allow one god to offer you boons, that'd be awesome.

[storm terrace]

I want to seduce

[cinder lichen]

O

[storm terrace]

Im sad I cant relationship like ||Than||

[radiant estuary]

I prefer Artemis myself

and if non-boon gods count, Nyx

[cinder lichen]

Honestly a good majority of these gods are relationship material

[radiant estuary]

I'd take a hug from Nyx is nothing else

[brisk trail]

Anyone ever get a greater call during a trial of the gods

[hasty marsh]

What’s better. Dark regeneration or chthonic vitality?

[winter harbor]

I like vitality for the healing in the last area

[radiant estuary]

I have, mostly for the one achievement tied to doing that

[radiant estuary]

Cthonic is better for consistency, Dark is better if you're doing farming runs

[silver bone]

I'm scrolling through my past run records.

What does "Perfect Clear" mean?

I'm guessing it was a ||no hit run on Hades||?

I dunno.

Anyone here know?

[granite ether]

full hp, full DD/SD on run clear

[silver bone]

Ah. 🙂

Thanks. 🙂

[granite ether]

no problem

[restive raptor]

whats the specific requirements for completing ||a place of revelry|| I seem to have most of the upgrades for the lounge, save for a few diamond and the upper tier gem ones

[brisk trail]

Do you have ||Dusa's meter maxed to the lock?||

[restive raptor]

I didn't think it would give me the ||phrophecy|| without it

I might have just upgraded it to that point, mabye i need another run ill check

[sudden moss]

Honestly I just joined to say congrats on the 9 game awards nominations ily guys at supergiant

[brisk trail]

||I've got the prophecy without her maxed to the lock and the lounge only missing two items.||

[winter harbor]

||Maybe just talk to her more||

[sudden moss]

Also I think a lyre weapon would be funny with an ||aspect of Orpheus|| and make the ||hidden aspect|| of Darren and it’s just an electric guitar

[restive raptor]

||do you need to have every item in the lounge unlocked to complete the prophecy?, the wiki says o complete a minimum of 12 Lounge-focused renovations, which must include at least one rug for the area as well as cleaning up Cerberus's fur and the scratches he left in the floor||

which that I have

[sudden moss]

||you don’t need every item||

[radiant estuary]

Honestly I kinda want to see a hammer weapon show up at some point

With an ||aspect of Hephaestus|| and maybe also an ||aspect of The Kid||

[hearty sierra]

There's just so much many possibilities available if you just give the Greeks guns

I, for one, am appalled that a Morningstar isn't there

But hey at least there's one way to smite your opponents with a big rock

[restive raptor]

ah yes so i did need to max out ||hearts with dusa to complete that prophecy|| and finish another run ofc

[brisk trail]

Ok, so I just have a small question, any tips for ||Hades second level?|| cause I just got there and I dont think I'll get as lucky again

[restive raptor]

what do you mean ||second level?||

[rapid forum]

you mean ||phase||?

[brisk trail]

Yes

I forgot the word

[rapid forum]

ah

[brisk trail]

This game hurts my head

[rapid forum]

it do be like that sometime

||skull explosion is good to get rid of the urns||

[brisk trail]

Its only my second day playing tho

[rapid forum]

albeit fairly dangerous

[restive raptor]

||than keepsake or lucky tooth can help a lot||

[brisk trail]

Interesting

[rapid forum]

personally I use ||acorn||

[restive raptor]

do you have the ||mirror|| fully unlocked?

[brisk trail]

No I need 30 keys

I have 3

[restive raptor]

the ||mirror|| helps HEAPS

[brisk trail]

I'll go grinding for them

And alr

[restive raptor]

if you already got the ||Privileged Status|| buff thats good if you can set it up

imo not an expert or anything XD

[brisk trail]

I use the ||family status||

[winter harbor]

I think it’s easier to set up multiple statuses but you do you

Does hermes count toward ||family favorite||?

[brisk trail]

Idk since I usually have a lot of boons

[winter harbor]

I tend to focus on two gods, maybe add Athena or Dionysus for support boons

[restive raptor]

||family status is diffrent Olympians boons||

[brisk trail]

I love dionysus

Mainly cause I simp, and hangover is a good curse in my opinion

[hearty sierra]

I mean, there's not a worst curse

[brisk trail]

All 8 Olympians and Hermes count towards Family Favorite.

But is there any god to focus on with the necter?

[hearty sierra]

Just that some work better than others on weapons

[restive raptor]

I love dinoysus dash+ something like Aphrodite weak attack, means ||Privileged Status|| is easy to setup IMO, and does good damage

[winter harbor]

Just give it to everyone

[hearty sierra]

Not particularly

[restive raptor]

but im a spammer so shrug

[brisk trail]

So just build up hearts with anyone?

[winter harbor]

Yeah, they all give you something the first time you give them nectar

[brisk trail]

Which I already did

To most of them

[winter harbor]

Great for setting up builds too, their keepsakes

[brisk trail]

I'm only missing one keepsake

[winter harbor]

Yeah, then it doesn’t matter who you give nectar to

[brisk trail]

Dionysus

[restive raptor]

so does a gods keepsake only "force" the spawn of thier boon once per run, or once per ||level of underworld|| so if i keep Poseidon keepsake, would the boon spawn after the first boss?

[winter harbor]

Once per run

Feel free to switch out their keepsake

There’s also the rarity bonus I guess but that doesn’t do enough for me to justify continue using it

[restive raptor]

thank you^, here im trying to farm ||prophecy boons|| by keeping keepsakes equipped 🤦‍♂️

[brisk trail]

Same

[dire ether]

does piercing reduce damage somehow?

im using chiron and got piercing and my damage seems notably lower on one target

no calisthenics either, i may just be confused but the output seems off

[brisk trail]

Piercing Volley?

[dire ether]

yeah

yeah lmao i have an epic chaos gate rare artemis lvl 3 heartbreak and clean kill

and my crits are doing 100

after i got piercing

[brisk trail]

I've only grabbed that combo once but I think I remember noticing it not doing quite as much as it should.

Crits only list the damage for the single hit.

That might be part of it.

[dire ether]

yeah but last i had this combo im pretty sure i was critting 3-400

imma test it after i finish this run probably

yeah getting piercing makes you do considerably less damage to one target

unsure if thats intended

perhaps it has something to do with the piercing effect? when you hover over it though it doesnt say it changes damage output anyhow

nvm i think i may be confused lol

[rapid forum]

possibly

[delicate ember]

im tempted to start a new save file

i havent played in weeks

and i was getting kinda bored

[rapid forum]

you can start at hell mode

unless you've done so

[delicate ember]

does that make it harder?

[rapid forum]

5 heat minimum

after first run

I say without mirror upgrades it can give certain challenge

[delicate ember]

hmm i had a lot of trouble without hell mode

i wont do it this time

but i will eventually

[rapid forum]

welp at least you know what to do after lol

[rain jolt]

Hello !

[sharp fossil]

👋

welcome

[rapid forum]

welcome to the thunderdome

[rain jolt]

Thanks !

Hades interests me a lot

[rapid forum]

feel free to ask anything, peeps here are more than happy to oblige

[late siren]

what's the most consistent way of getting titans blood other than heat?

i'm constantly working on upping heat for the bounties, but id like to increase my blood income

[woeful lotus]

to trade for them in the shop

[dark scroll]

Couple quests have em.

and each weapon is seperate ofc

[woeful lotus]

yeh prophecy and trading for them is pretty much the only way outside of heat

[late siren]

i'm just worried my enjoyment in the game is gonna burn out before i get to try everything lol

i usually play a game hardcore until i'm sick of it, then never touch it again

[tacit ember]

what do u haev to do befor u can give ambrosia to dusa

does the game tell u or what

[dark scroll]

Basicly keep playing and talking.

[glad cairn]

what why who where how

[tacit ember]

is the guan yu spere good

i just got it

[bronze ravine]

how am I supposed to get chaos legendary boon if I'm only getting 1 chaos spawn by run

rng hates me

[cinder lichen]

Do you have an egg?

...wait, does that increase Chaos spawns?

[bronze ravine]

I do have egg, but it increase the rarity not the spawn

[cinder lichen]

Oof

[bronze ravine]

and since I've been busy completing fates lists for duos and legendary, I kept having suboptimal run because of trying to force rng

chaos legendary is the last one I need

well, on the bright side it raises my player skills as well as my tolerance level

[rapid forum]

I'm trying to max every weapon

[cinder lichen]

I know that feel, when you try to force a duo boon for 4 runs straight

[green maple]

wait chaos has a legendary

omg

[mighty swallow]

So, what is a "ambiguity bonus"?

[past vine]

Will there be a Hades 2 or a DLC?

[dark scroll]

One of the following; maybe, no, perhaps, yes, per chance, wait and see, never.

[storm terrace]

I'd like to see Hestia, id be content

[slow dew]

ok if i have 3 options chaos well store and upgrade boon

if i go into chaos well will i be able to go into store or upgrade boon after?

or are those choices gone

ok i found out. they remain

[dim nest]

you can use the wells, purging pools, and infernal troves in a chamber after you clear it

it will not change anything regarding the next chamber you'll visit

[tacit ember]

broken spere point or acorn

[dark scroll]

Yes.

[lethal socket]

yeah

i got the acorn lats night and i dont know wich is better

[woven cipher]

if I skip charon mid-shop, does it have a chance of reappearing again?

[novel wasp]

OCEAN MAN

TAKE ME BY THE HAND

[dark scroll]

Drugs are bad kids.

[novel wasp]

No U

[thorny crescent]

OCEAN MAN
TAKE ME BY THE HAND
Going for a Poseidon build be like

[runic agate]

||Sounds about right my last build was a build like that and hades was annihilated||

[novel wasp]

he got gfot

[lethal socket]

advice when fighting meg with the gun

[raven lava]

throw special on her, dash out of her way, shoot her, repeat

[dark scroll]

Just don't try to rush it or fire the gun too ong.

Otherwise same way as always.

[raven lava]

if you’re having trouble with the gun i recommend putting blood into eris rail

(if you can)

[austere jacinth]

The gun took a while to click but it's my joint fave now. With Meg, my advice is the same as Karpinskaya's: stay mobile. It's tempting to turn into a turret--and that's viable for slaughtering smaller enemies--but something with more health can punish you for that.

[raven lava]

i would say turreting is never a good idea in this game

[runic agate]

Gun is my fav

I kinda just kite everything and not much can do anything about it expect || asterious in the heros bossfight ||

[lethal socket]

ok

[late siren]

is there a reliable way to get the greater bad call achievement?

[runic agate]

The what?

[late siren]

er- bad call

not greater bad

[runic agate]

What is it?

[late siren]

use a god's greater call against them

[runic agate]

Ooh

Likely just get lucky

[late siren]

i never get the opportunity to use a greater call in a regular room

[noble mason]

Yeah I don't see that happening without boosts to build to it faster

[limpid crown]

I was a gun hater until I tried it a couple of times

[noble mason]

The boon to auto generate Call over time seems like the only way to make it work reliably.

[lethal socket]

i beat hades

finnalyt

the gun is so op

[next anchor]

Now Zagreus needs a 44mag upgrade to the Adamant Rail, one shot, done! Lol

[lethal socket]

lol

[novel wasp]

@lethal socket use glock to shoot her head and then AK on her feet, then finish off with an M4

[green maple]

go to elysium and attend the trial of gods

if chances are good and you get some of those troops that regenerate

[novel wasp]

^

[green maple]

do that again and again

[novel wasp]

yes, give them the torture

[green maple]

and flex your greater call

[novel wasp]

tbh i think chances of getting exalted is pretty high

[green maple]

its easy when the gods you have an aid has a quick gauge

[novel wasp]

im sure it wont be like all flamewheels

or all chariots

exalted is guaranteed but god i wish it was brightsword compared to others

because elite greatshield is cancer

or elite strongbows which is just haha you cant catch me now i will shoot you offscreen

[dark scroll]

Or add more enemies, you can go artemis aswell

poseidon

[green maple]

Or you can just

Get damaged a hella bunch

And go for it

Lmao

[novel wasp]

yuuuuup

[green maple]

Yeah if you really want the achievement itself

[novel wasp]

i dont recommend poseidon mainly because his tsunami spam is honestly pain

[green maple]

Why not just go all 3 dd on a single trial

[novel wasp]

i recommend artemis since her trial is the most harmless

[green maple]

Tbh athena is also super easy

[novel wasp]

that too

poseidon spam is one thing, the thing it also staggers, push you along the way, and damages you at the same time

EPIC GAME DESIGN

[green maple]

you probs would like to avoid aphro or ares

these just limits your moves badly

and poseidon tbh

its just

[novel wasp]

Aphro is actually ooookayish? consider her chargeup is faster

[green maple]

cracked

[dark scroll]

Poseidon as in boons to boost it.

same for artemis

[green maple]

poseidon is like legit CRACKED

never survived a poseidon trial

[novel wasp]

Poseidon is using the GAMEPLAZA version of Hades to fight you

or CODEX

[green maple]

yes

[novel wasp]

I remembered the days where Poseidon trial was a joke

[green maple]

and theres this one god called athena

[novel wasp]

it was like a 5th grade bully just pushes you around

lmao

[green maple]

who just does nothing but random impervious spams

[novel wasp]

Oh the new one is sooooo easy

compared to the old one

you would love the old one even more, it doesnt have a range

[green maple]

i mean but it makes sense because the

[novel wasp]

it applies to whole room

[green maple]

gods trials

wait

[novel wasp]

now thats pain

[green maple]

no

what

thats just

no

why are gods cracked

lmao

[novel wasp]

Yup

[green maple]

i thank god that aphro only shoots one heart

instead of 3 or 4

[novel wasp]

Aphro gods trial was a joke

[green maple]

imagine aphro shooting 4 hearts in elysium with flame wheels

[novel wasp]

infact except Athena everyone's trial was a joke

[green maple]

lmao

but suddenly

a flip happened

[novel wasp]

it got reworked in Nightly Night update

[green maple]

and theres suddenly this god saying

all shall soon decay while the only thing that decays is my damn mind that was expecting for damage

[novel wasp]

Honestly till this day the two gods i feel its easiest now is either Athena or Zeus

Artemis but Artemis makes your heart hard since you will feel extremely bad for spiting her

[green maple]

i like athena/dionysus/demeter

artemis

i cant not choose her tbh

[novel wasp]

Demeter is okayish

depends on the room

if the room is tight af, Demeter is now satan

if its very open, Demeter is not a threat

Dionysus kinda hurts but again, you saw it coming

[green maple]

Yeah

Dio is sort of fine tho

[novel wasp]

Unlike Possy's tsunami or Aphro's hearts

[green maple]

I cant fight when my moves gets badly limited

Like aphros hearts or ares surrounding me

Or zeus' random electric shock

and yeah im sort of a newb

my highest heat is 3

[novel wasp]

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you're looking for free boons, I can tell you I don't have any but what I do have are a very particular set of annoying mechanics. Annoying Mechanics I have acquired over a very long godhood. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you chose me, that will be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you and I will kill you.

[green maple]

wait what

HAHAHAHAHA

oh and uh

[novel wasp]

thats what I feel when I dont choose Pos or Aphro

[green maple]

this question is legit asking opinions

easiest/hardest god when they aid theseus

[novel wasp]

or probably what they think about me when I spite them

Idk hardest

[green maple]

to me uh poseidon is just bad

[novel wasp]

but easiest goes to again, Artemis

[modest ledge]

poseidon has some goodies

[novel wasp]

very, very predictable

[modest ledge]

he has the second best dash

[green maple]

and aphro/arty is easy

aphro's mechanics are legit: dont move

[modest ledge]

and I'll be honest, poseidon's call is actually pretty good if you have the attract upgrade

[green maple]

i dont like poseidon's call tbh

[novel wasp]

S U C C

[modest ledge]

yea it ain't that good

but the upgrade makes it fun

[novel wasp]

Its hard to control

but whatevs

[modest ledge]

my least favorite cast tho is aphrodite

it's a pitiful cast

[dark scroll]

It has some of the higher damage.

[modest ledge]

so bad

[green maple]

to me i think ares call makes me do the boss fight real easy

[modest ledge]

it's so damn bad dude

[novel wasp]

@modest ledge what did you say about me you lil s

[modest ledge]

I hate aphro cast

[dark scroll]

If you get a epic poseidon, pretty strong.

[modest ledge]

YOUR CAST SUCKS DUDE

IT'S TRASH

[novel wasp]

You dont apprieciate the art of love shotgun then

[green maple]

oh aphro's cast is a bit difficult

[novel wasp]

I literally delete ||dad|| with 6 bloodstones aphro cast

[modest ledge]

I love the shotgun, I don't love the love shotgun

why did you censor that

[novel wasp]

also they are all dual shot

[green maple]

spoiler

[modest ledge]

the game is about patricide after all

[green maple]

tbh i love festive fog

[novel wasp]

back when Artemis was OPAF

[green maple]

and blade rift

tbh

[modest ledge]

I love blade rift most

[green maple]

blade rift doing 4 digit dmg is so calm

[novel wasp]

Basically I fired twelve shots in a row into ||hades|| and doing 4 digit

[brisk trail]

I don't fear Aphrodite in trials because I've 100% completed N game 2

[green maple]

huh?

[modest ledge]

I think aphrodites call is just a more predictable artemis call

[brisk trail]

it isn't an N level if you don't have a heat seeking missile following you at all times

[modest ledge]

wdym N level

[novel wasp]

I think you just don't know how to use it

[dark scroll]

Artemis, poseidon, dio can do the same or more damage but easier then ares.

With higher heat at least.

[brisk trail]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_(video_game)

[modest ledge]

everytime someone writes dio for dionysus all I can imagine is "diogenes" and I think "wait diogenes gives you boons?"

[novel wasp]

Ares blade cast unless you meme but usually you need some Hunting Baes for 4 digit

[brisk trail]

my favorite 2d platformer besides celeste

[dark scroll]

Is there already an N++++++ on Switch? ;p

[brisk trail]

no clue I just played N2 when I was bored in hs

[novel wasp]

N

never heard of it

probably because I despise platformers

aka I suck at it

I have trouble accessing height irl cause aerophobia let alone in a bloody video game

well not as terrified but def still doesnt gauge well

[novel wasp]

do you mean actually able to stun enemies and is better in terms of utility over artemis call

Artemis Call is way more predictable because you only use greater call and period

lmao

also as much as I hate to say it but Aphro's greater call damage is reliably higher than Artemis, yes Artemis technically can achieve higher but sometimes it doesnt want to, but I will still love Artemis call for "Press F to skip phase"

[keen cliff]

depands on what build you run. Arty's call can do A LOT more demage if you have the right boons leveled

[novel wasp]

Yeah you need to invest full in Arty

more crit chance, more crit damage

[keen cliff]

not full, just preasure points and hunter's mark

[novel wasp]

those two are tier 2

still require at least 2-3 visits

unlucky could contribute to more

and then aphro, once you got it you got it

its a tier 1

[keen cliff]

yeah aphro's call is most useful against the Elysium boss

[novel wasp]

yeah arguably still useful against stage 4

but they nerfed it haaard

still having stun over no stun is better

[keen cliff]

demage's still good

[novel wasp]

you see the problem?

That too, its a guaranteed 2500

how do you pass up on that

also and it charges faster mainly its 4 bars over 5

[dark scroll]

Poseidon is possibly thousands more.

[thorny crescent]

Poseidon’s call is so much better than Aphrodite dude

[novel wasp]

True, again cements the arty call might not deal as much damage as it seems

[keen cliff]

well I usually run Arty + some dmg-over-time boon

[dark scroll]

i pick w/e I get usually, you never can rely on it anyway.

[novel wasp]

but bloody hell tryna control posy's call is like

controlling a horse

[dark scroll]

I pick it based on duo boons mostly

I dunno, I can control it decently

[keen cliff]

heh...a sea-horse?

[dark scroll]

with 1 bar you can hit twice

[novel wasp]

yeah but i looove Ares call

even if it doesnt do as much damage

you have full control on where you go

where you wanna relocate

its like

[keen cliff]

plus invincibility

[novel wasp]

psuedo athena call if you will

and thats not a bad thing, you might just want a run without athena

and heres still a decent defense call

[keen cliff]

athena's call is hella OP if your deflects do more demage

[thorny crescent]

Ares’s blade rift stuff is hella op

Everything else

Ehhhhhhhhh

[novel wasp]

Hunting Baes

Black Metal

[keen cliff]

everything is OP if you know how to use it

[novel wasp]

yup

except uh pure hermes

lmao

im torturing myself rn

[keen cliff]

hermes is a support

[novel wasp]

Yeah Im doing a meme run

[keen cliff]

fastboi if you will

[novel wasp]

all hermes

only hermes

tokyo drift

[keen cliff]

is it possible to get only hermes boons in a whole run?

[novel wasp]

you gotta mod it

its possible

[keen cliff]

oh, i see

[novel wasp]

same as getting one god only run

honestly i wanna see more people do that

or there is always an option of similar effect by always visiting wash boon fountain as soon as possible

basically dumping what isnt relevant

[keen cliff]

imagine an option in the settings that lets you select gods

[novel wasp]

if you dont wanna mod, just challenge yourself

but doing no mod mode is actually hard since i only get like 3 boons (exactly how much does Hermes shows up per run)

the last one is debatable since it spawns on shop

so reliably 2, but having chance up to 3

[keen cliff]

I think after you beat a fury in a run, you get a chance to wash away boons after encounters, right?

[novel wasp]

yup

also random appearance between normal rooms are also possible

basically you just borrow

but not keeping it permanently

[keen cliff]

i always imagine it as if you just throw away a gift

[novel wasp]

well its not in your contracts

honestly if possible make it a full fledge heat contract would be pretty funny

like there is a wheel of fortune in the beginning to determine who will be your prime god

and the room will be modded as that, even chaos and hermes is possible

as in, chaos always spawn in every, single, room

boi bringing time egg would be so OP

[keen cliff]

it would be a nessesity

[novel wasp]

but again you would be missing some really good items such as black shawl

god bless that item

[keen cliff]

who gives it to you again?

[novel wasp]

your emo mom

[keen cliff]

what does it do?

[novel wasp]

increase backstab and initial damage

and even if you didnt pick backstab talent in mirror, you will now have the ability to backstab

[keen cliff]

tbh i like hermes' plume and thanatos' butterfly most

[novel wasp]

similar effect if you pick up athena backstab boon

yeah but you gotta wear it since stage 1

for it to be effective

[keen cliff]

they are best for speedrunners

[novel wasp]

yes if they are like not chasing a certain build

[brisk trail]

does elysium ever get better

[novel wasp]

if you are looking for a certain build, they are not for you

better as in

[brisk trail]

30 clears later and i still hate it as much as i did the first time

[keen cliff]

better?

[novel wasp]

It was one point worse

[brisk trail]

less annoying to get through

[novel wasp]

let that sink in

blood price launch update where they increased all exhalted damage

why

worry not it was quickly reverted

thank god

[brisk trail]

exhalted? is that what the blue mobs are called?

[keen cliff]

it's a place where the bravest warriors of greece "live". DOES it get any better?

[novel wasp]

yep

the ones that regen

[thorny crescent]

you know what would be a fun little addition to have

a debug mode to try out some fun builds

[novel wasp]

Gun's 5th aspect is now a handgun

@thorny crescent the mod can help you

[thorny crescent]

the game has modding already?

[keen cliff]

exagriph's 5th?

[novel wasp]

yes

wanna me send you a link to the server

actually @burnt breach

[thorny crescent]

yes please

[novel wasp]

This is the guy/gal who runs it

[thorny crescent]

got it

but i want the link anyway pls

[novel wasp]

Ok hang on

[novel wasp]

all 4 was already revealed, hence 5th

also you are the Aspect of NCIS actor

you have unlimited boolets and you dont reload

[keen cliff]

XDDD

"aspect of the DOOM-slayer"

[novel wasp]

also for spear i want Aspect of Steve

and its just a Diamond Hoe

[keen cliff]

XDD

[novel wasp]

Hey steve is in smash now

whats impossible at this rate

oh and if you die using Aspect of Steve you will have bass-boosted Minecraft music

i still want Aspect of Kiwame Japan ngl

I will now make a knife out of Exhalted soul

[keen cliff]

aspect of the world (fists):
-special stops time for 5 seconds
-durring special all attacks do +20% dmg
-whenever you hit a foe Zagreus shouts "useless!"

[novel wasp]

added bonus, now dionysus is voiced by Dio's VA

[keen cliff]

XDDD

And Ares by Jojo's VA

[bronze ravine]

come on, why won't chaos legendary show up

[novel wasp]

requires insane luck is all

oh and visit them more than twice

[keen cliff]

mirror mirror on the wall

[bronze ravine]

I'm getting tired of doing suboptimal runs

got all the duos and leg except his

I had the mirror rerolls, his keepsake, his boon increasing boons rarity and a lot of rerolls dices

still not enough

even with 3 chaos in the same run

[novel wasp]

did you collect... 10

10 reroll dices

since that could net you 4 rerolls

try to barge into key rooms more often if you have fated keys

[keen cliff]

my brain whenever zag says 'more' or 'power':
"P O W E R...give me more...P O W E R!"

[bronze ravine]

I did

[novel wasp]

Aspect of TED POWER

[bronze ravine]

even got 1 light of ixion

[keen cliff]

aspect of Vergil?

[stark garnet]

guys, i have a quick question

[keen cliff]

yez

[stark garnet]

can I ever get healing upgrade + wave atk on the sword?

[keen cliff]

as far as i know all Daidalos upgrades are random

[novel wasp]

oh yeah have you checked that you have DD instead of SD

[stark garnet]

I really want to just dash and spamming atk from afar while also healing 🙂

[novel wasp]

do note that Defiance boon doesnt offer on SD

[keen cliff]

SD?

[novel wasp]

Stubborn Defiance

[keen cliff]

ooohh

[novel wasp]

oh and, taking a Favor boon I guess will help?

[modest ledge]

Man who pinged me

[novel wasp]

thats kinda the things that you can influence over Chaos to give you Defiance

Hey its me

[keen cliff]

no-one?

[trim current]

Im only missing the "purge legendary boon achievement"any tips for it?

[novel wasp]

Uhhhh

[modest ledge]

Use the talent that gives you a higher chance of getting legnedaries

And pray to RNGesus

[trim current]

lol

[novel wasp]

Get easy legendary such as Demeter's

[keen cliff]

it's an achievment, just waste a run if you want it that bad

[dark scroll]

Took me 20 runs to get that one after I wanted it.

[trim current]

@brisk trail im on 5 runs plus trying to get it,its nuts

[novel wasp]

Legendaries spawns on prerequisites

[trim current]

ill try to aim for demeter

[keen cliff]

does DUO count as a legendary?

[dark scroll]

Nope.

[novel wasp]

nah

too easy then

also @trim current visit codex, or wiki to see the boon tree progression on each gods

that can help you to plan out what do you actually need to force the god to bring out the orange boon

also, bring a lot of reroll dice

[keen cliff]

btw how do you sort boons into tiers? by their requirements?

[trim current]

got it open now, im going to try a demeter run

[novel wasp]

@keen cliff Tier 1 Boon shows up as soon as you visit the god

[dark scroll]

sort what? normal -> rare -> epic -> heroic and duo/legendary are seperatee.

[novel wasp]

tier 2 boon only shows up if you take a certain tier 1 boon

[keen cliff]

oh, i see

[novel wasp]

tier 3 aka legendaries spawns when the prequisite is met

its different depend on each gods

[dark scroll]

Ingame list shows all of them.

[keen cliff]

i know that

[novel wasp]

that too but i personally prefer the wiki's boon tree

[keen cliff]

just wanted to make that clear

[novel wasp]

its more, visualizing you know

the list can sometimes be confusing

the rarities of each however, is depend on rng

except legendaries for obvious reason

[keen cliff]

too bad the chaos boons don't have set punishments but i guess it makes them more interesting

[novel wasp]

All chaos boon punishment and reward combination is random

[dark scroll]

I wanna know if higher tiers have more chance of showing if you got 2 or 3 out of 3 instead of 1/3.

I suppose if you pick core boons the other ones do have a higher chance.,

Afterwards.

[novel wasp]

As far as Im concern, no, you only make them spawn but they still have their set chance, for example, legendary has like 30ish%?

the only way to change percentage influence is by getting the talent like the leg/duo chance ++, and chaos favor boon

Also as long as you pick one of the requirement of say a tier 1 to tier 2, it will show up, and still the same chance as taking all tier 1 requirement for that tier 2 boon

[keen cliff]

what do you prefer? Infernal blood or Stygian blood?

[novel wasp]

Stygian

wait no

Infernal

[dark scroll]

Depends what I'm doing.

1 for weapon builds, the other for cast builds.

[novel wasp]

wait wait im confused lmao

[keen cliff]

i only ever used infernal for the proficies

[novel wasp]

i dont remember by the names

[dark scroll]

Same for the +2 +1

[novel wasp]

is it the increased kidneystone or regen kidneystone

or the +damage on lodge or slow on lodge

[keen cliff]

infernal is more stones in reserve

[dark scroll]

If you do cast you pick that one

you do wepaon build, the other

[novel wasp]

oh yeah it depends

[dark scroll]

often enough,

[novel wasp]

but stygian blood is generalist

[dark scroll]

deme has a boon that makes having 1 cast easier if you go weapon build

[novel wasp]

if for instance you got a cast boon from chaos on stygian blood, it could be incredibly powerful

since now you not only have 1 per 3 second

[keen cliff]

like festive fog?

[novel wasp]

you have 2 per 3 second

[keen cliff]

2?

[novel wasp]

No I mean the one which chaos gives you +1 kidneystone this run

[keen cliff]

oh i see

[dark scroll]

I'd think I'd always rather have 4-7

[keen cliff]

hermes also gives +1 kidneystone

[novel wasp]

but if you want reliable kidneystone

infernal is good choice

[hearty sierra]

Lmao kidneystone

[novel wasp]

as soon as you got your decent cast build going, you are at your fullpower with infernal

[hearty sierra]

Yeah if you're going after, say, Dio or ||Demeter||, Stygian is the way to go

[novel wasp]

but if you are feeling cheeky and spicy stygian build hunting baes is just as good as infernal hunting baes

[hearty sierra]

No pickup, no fuss

[keen cliff]

i find it funny how zag does a front-flip when he throws them

[dark scroll]

But if you got autoreturn having 3-4 casts can be fine too

[novel wasp]

that is, you find the chaos boon

or be like me who is a degenerate and buys all promethus stone i see

Now I have 6 stone per 3 second

for a while

[hearty sierra]

Ahahahahaahahahahah

[keen cliff]

"da ting go skrrrrrr-ah!"

[novel wasp]

Breaking News: Millenial buys all promethus stones

[hearty sierra]

Have you seen Hera Bow with 29 Zeus Casts firing off

[novel wasp]

Yes

NOOOOOKE

[hearty sierra]

Because I have

[keen cliff]

dear god(s)

[novel wasp]

you dont understand

my dear

[hearty sierra]

Obliterates anything it touches

[novel wasp]

also obiliterates your rmb

and the finger which used to click it

you gotta click 29 times in order to unleash the nuke

[keen cliff]

you shout "ROOM CLEAR!" everytime you fire them

[hearty sierra]

Autoclicker FTW

[novel wasp]

Yup but im not a filthy scripter XD

[hearty sierra]

I bind it to LShift which is cast

Pssh

[keen cliff]

[novel wasp]

Amateur

[hearty sierra]

I love ||Beo|| as well because of the amount of casts you can just load

[novel wasp]

I bind it to my mouse scroll and I have a mouse that lets me scroll infinitely

[hearty sierra]

Load, hold and obliterate

[novel wasp]

Interstellar mouse wheel intensifies

[keen cliff]

bind it to scroll-wheel-up/down

[hearty sierra]

nyoom intensifies

[novel wasp]

One day it will fly out and venture great lengths

[hearty sierra]

But yeah Autohotkeys actually are so QOL in Hades

[novel wasp]

instead of being abused by me who wants to fire 29 kidneystones

[hearty sierra]

I find that binding it to dash or cast is pretty useful to avoid carpal tunnel

Or finger strain

[novel wasp]

thats it

[hearty sierra]

29 is not the limit

[novel wasp]

im binding it to my wii steering wheel remote

[keen cliff]

loads 29 stones: Omae wa mou shinderu

[novel wasp]

@hearty sierra watch me play shield run with an arcade steering wheel

[dark scroll]

With 46 heat?

[bronze ravine]

yay, finally got chaos legendary

[novel wasp]

and maybe microwave with ||Lulcifer ||build

[hearty sierra]

With what as Special

[novel wasp]

My pedal

[dark scroll]

demeter ;p

[hearty sierra]

Hell yea good job my good shade

[bronze ravine]

with that I only have 1 prophecy left and that one is just dialogue rng

[dark scroll]

and fresh save

[novel wasp]

good job owl man

[dark scroll]

I still gotta get harpy one

forgetting

[novel wasp]

the 200 harp?

[keen cliff]

which one?

[novel wasp]

I just used a mod that decrease it to 10 and done with it

[keen cliff]

sorry wrong person XDD

[novel wasp]

yes im a filthy scripter ecks dee

[keen cliff]

which one?

[hearty sierra]

Y'all I'm going to test how many casts is actually possible in this game

[novel wasp]

Show me the results!

[hearty sierra]

I actually have no idea

[bronze ravine]

defiance legendary

[keen cliff]

ok, good luck

[novel wasp]

Load 1 million of them

and then crash the game

[bronze ravine]

woops misread

it's the lyre one

jsut need orpheus to talk about it once more I think

[novel wasp]

i really hate that

ngl

[hearty sierra]

The game does not like if you try to mod in every boon lmao

Lost many a save to that

[bronze ravine]

also for the legendary I still need to survive for a bit longer

wish me luck

[novel wasp]

@hearty sierra lmao bet

[keen cliff]

good luck Nov

[hearty sierra]

Good luck my good shade!

[novel wasp]

Thank you kind sir

[hearty sierra]

Oh believe me, I've tried

Crashes when you get to the last god

[novel wasp]

Meanwhile me, trying to beat the game with 1 god

and that 1 god is Hermes

wheeze

[hearty sierra]

Well theoretically is possible

[faint flume]

just

really hard

[novel wasp]

yeah i just mod so that every gods are just hermes

[hearty sierra]

Get Rail, every Hermes boon on Heroic and every daedelus upgrade

Cakewalk

[novel wasp]

Tokyo Drift

[dark scroll]

Theorectically you can beat the game from a fresh save with hell mode and 46 heat too but I wouldn't recommend. ;p (yet that 1 guy did try)

[uneven dew]

I just introduced my 10yo cousin to hades and hes been playing for like 20mins and now gives me tips on the game lmaooo

[faint flume]

you could probably do an only zeus run considering zeus just continually buffs his own boons

just tonnes of lightning

[dark scroll]

I watched for about 20-30 min, he didn't get past room 5/6 or so

[rancid ember]

Of course I would be running Achilles when I get Flurry Jab lol. And I don't even have a boon to go with the attack...

[hearty sierra]

Yeah pretty impossible for a first run

[novel wasp]

@faint flume im doing all gods dw lmao

[dark scroll]

Or the 30th. ;p

[hearty sierra]

Needs a few mirror upgrades at least

[keen cliff]

at the end of the run, when you get to daddy, you'll be like "i'm fast as fucc boiii"

[dark scroll]

First upgrades were the backstab one.

Then I stopped watching.

[novel wasp]

also @hearty sierra you will one day die from kidneystones disease for how much you load into your bow

[keen cliff]

kidney cancer more likely @novel wasp

[hearty sierra]

There's a well of Charon item that increases speed, that stacks multiplicatively, which means you can just nyoom

[novel wasp]

Zag, screams in pain as he is holding his kidneys, with 99 casts

[hearty sierra]

Also pair that with rush delivery and you deal like 1k damage per bullet on Rail

[novel wasp]

Rail is now a sniper

Intervention Rail

[hearty sierra]

99 kidneys for 99 kidneystones

[faint flume]

question is, lambent plume or charon's keepsake for burning ichor

[keen cliff]

one of hermes' boons increases your dmg for every speed buff you have

[bronze ravine]

alright I surived, I officially got every single boons in the game

[novel wasp]

congrats birb man

[hearty sierra]

Yep, Rush Delivery

[novel wasp]

Rush B

[hearty sierra]

Great job!

[keen cliff]

CONGRATULATIONS

[novel wasp]

Now

you can uninstall the game

™️

[hearty sierra]

Or you could make a new save file, Hell Mode, and always play with EM4 + Overtime

Hell+ ultra

[novel wasp]

Spicy Meatballs edition

8/8 IGn

[bronze ravine]

I still have that one prophecy left, the last 2 skelly's prize and the max all keepsakes achievement to do

[hearty sierra]

I swear Forced Overtime is just so BS

[keen cliff]

now you can officially say you've played the game

[novel wasp]

Forced Overtime + Benefit Package

[hearty sierra]

Good luck on ||32 heat||

[novel wasp]

Now you have a Super Saiyan Teleporting Duplicating Flamewheels

[keen cliff]

keepsakes i started lvling as soon as i got them

[hearty sierra]

Don't remind me ugh

Almost makes me want to get Bronze skin every game and level it to 375

[novel wasp]

this game just turned into a horror game as soon as teleporting duplicating flamewheel exists

[hearty sierra]

So those lil shiets can ram into me for a grand total of 0 damage

[brisk trail]

that sounds like hell

[bronze ravine]

well, I mostly used the god's ones so the least used ones are low levels

but at least it's guaranteed progression and not rng

[hearty sierra]

Rare is the useless keepsake so just experiment!

[novel wasp]

should I... mod it so that when flamewheel activates it blasts Thomas the tank engine music bass boosted

[hearty sierra]

I for one like Zag Fists with Butterfly

[keen cliff]

yes

[hearty sierra]

My heart bleeds still every time it rams into me

I don't need scarred ears

[novel wasp]

fine I will put All Stars instead then

[hearty sierra]

If you're gonna do that just Rick roll me

[bronze ravine]

I don't mind experimenting, my main problem is that I'm getting tired of not having my builds

[hearty sierra]

At least that is a semi-good song

[novel wasp]

plays rickroll, then switch to megalovania

[bronze ravine]

I pretty much did all duos then all legendaries in a row

[keen cliff]

"whatever, I don't use my hearing that much anyways."

[novel wasp]

imagine gets rickrolled on a rickroll

[bronze ravine]

so I kept forcing stuff instead of building nice things

[hearty sierra]

Then play how you like for a bit! It's not a chore

You can deviate from completionist-ism for a bit

[bronze ravine]

that's what I'm planning to do ^^

dw, I know that

[hearty sierra]

Enjoy!