#h1-discussion
next sphinx
gaunt root
woeful lotus
32 is just the last one that rewards a statue
stone pebble
What happens, if we go even further beyond?
quaint hatch
Nothing
brisk trail
Pride
next sphinx
And, I assume, a great love of the gameplay
rancid ember
Soo. Do you actually have to get a minimum of 126 clears, at each heat level up to 20, in order to get all bounties?
opaque nexus
did somebody say speedruns
stone pebble
yes
opaque nexus
let me hear em
quaint hatch
I'm a disgrace for not calling in the local somewhat speedy boi
Just a random question for the single run speedruns, I usually see people do it at around 8-9 heat
@gaunt root .
Why not turn it all the way down
@gaunt root .
opaque nexus
ok
so forced overtime decreases the time it takes for enemies to spawn
that means less waiting
some weapons you only take one, some you take 2, and others you take none
extreme measures 2 groups the hydra heads closer together, making it easier to hit multiple
tight deadline is depdendent on the timing method
if it's real time, you want it on since survivial rooms take a lot of real life time to do
for in game time you want them, since free rooms save a lot of time
so in that case you don't use tight deadline
gaunt root
Ah i see
I thought all the records did in game time
I dont see anyone run real time other than fresh save
opaque nexus
any heat is ranked by in game time, but any categories that take place over multiple runs are rta
like all weapons and potential new category 3 weapons
eager vortex
?
worn apex
shadepog
eager vortex
tbf you told me to do it
quaint hatch
"accident"
tawdry geyser
||hadeez nutz||
stone pebble
Literally
eager vortex
yeah not cool
stone pebble
||Alecto calls Hades daddy||
brisk trail
Being straight is pretty homophobic tbh
eager vortex
||Alecto calls Hades daddy||
top 10 facts I could have lived without
stone pebble
bruh
quaint hatch
Not cool dude
eager vortex
Being straight is pretty homophobic tbh
ngl being gay is kinda homophobic 🤔
quaint hatch
And that's an insult to you?
stone pebble
Waitwaitwaitwait, when did I call you that
stone pebble
how what
quaint hatch
Man you're really afraid of being called gay huh?
brisk trail
Thats pretty gay
stone pebble
No like hades the video game
brisk trail
Existing is pretty homophobic tbh
void walrus
What is even happening right now
eager vortex
for the hades discussion channel we're really straying far from discussing hades lmao
quaint hatch
If you're not at least doing it with a man once a week your homophobic imo
brisk trail
If you guys keep this up im gonna make you drink the gender fluid
stone pebble
I didnt even know hades is a chef tho
stone pebble
Hades probably made some p cool feasts in the underworld but damn
brisk trail
Knowing somebody of the same sex is pretty gay ngl
eager vortex
he has like
7 wives
stone pebble
EXACTLY
quaint hatch
Also don't we all have the hots for than?
brisk trail
Persephone
quaint hatch
Omg dude
brisk trail
Im a fictional character
quaint hatch
Omg
void walrus
Also don't we all have the hots for than?
@quaint hatch This is the one truth
stone pebble
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VG HADES
quaint hatch
YOU CANT BE SERIOUS
stone pebble
VIDEO
eager vortex
like the supergiant hades
eager vortex
the one in the game ;-;
quaint hatch
Ever heard of greek mythology?
eager vortex
@stone pebble he's tryna bamboozle you
brisk trail
Mom might get mad dont tell her pleasr
stone pebble
Brh
eager vortex
dino we saw that
quaint hatch
Did you just use gay as an insult?
stone pebble
This cant be real
quaint hatch
Bruh immature ngl
stone pebble
Am I dreaming?
quaint hatch
Like I was kidding before
stone pebble
someone virtual pinch me
quaint hatch
But that's not cool
eager vortex
someone virtual pinch me
FALCON PU-
quaint hatch
Falcon Pinch
stone pebble
Ohm my god
quaint hatch
Yeah it's also not funny to me
stone pebble
AAAAAAAAA
eager vortex
Falcon pimp 😳
stone pebble
ok
brisk trail
NO
quaint hatch
Faco hella hot ngl
brisk trail
I DONT WANT TO BE TAKEN BY THE STYX
stone pebble
And never talk to us again
brisk trail
AAAAAA
eager vortex
where can i download it from
the hobo on the street
stone pebble
BOULDY
quaint hatch
Ur backwards
eager vortex
what's that supposed to mean
quaint hatch
You are
brisk trail
We built this city on croc and balls
quaint hatch
I'm not at your command
stone pebble
We're even
quaint hatch
...
eager vortex
oh god
quaint hatch
Stop spamming
rancid ember
WTF is going on?
quaint hatch
Be homophobic and racist somewhere else
rancid ember
...so. a troll?
quaint hatch
No troll
stone pebble
I'm experiencing unheard levels of cringe
quaint hatch
Just a homophobe and racist
eager vortex
well said
stone pebble
Dino I have a single question for you: How old are you
eager vortex
well atleast he's honest
stone pebble
How the hell (literally) did he get here
rancid ember
...do you mean 16?
stone pebble
my god
eager vortex
How the hell (literally) did he get here
he told me to and I quote "ghost ping him in the hades server"
thats all I swear
quaint hatch
I'm angry at you for that
stone pebble
HE CANT BE THAT SMART
eager vortex
;-;
quaint hatch
Nooe
eager vortex
screw you
devout socket
@tepid yacht @signal spoke @red coral @hexed smelt @alpine stratus I'm not involved with this but it seems the above discussion needs the influence of a mod
eager vortex
@tepid yacht @signal spoke @red coral @hexed smelt @alpine stratus I'm not involved with this but it seems the above discussion needs the influence of a mod
@devout socket BRUH DONT PING ALL THE MODS
stone pebble
DOPJTY DOMTHAT
quaint hatch
For a reason
quaint hatch
Could you stop?
eager vortex
"roles"
stone pebble
It's called common sense if you haven't heard of it
red coral
hello.
eager vortex
hi :3
ignore the homophobe
quaint hatch
Yoo
stone pebble
Listen, I'm really sorry for this guy pinging you
hexed smelt
I may have panicked and kicked them.
quaint hatch
Calm down neon
He's just trying to help
stone pebble
er
quaint hatch
...
eager vortex
ok he's back
quaint hatch
We did
alpine stratus
3 pings? whats up?
eager vortex
3 pings? whats up?
troll pinging
alpine stratus
are yoou guys ok?
stone pebble
And you said it was true...
alpine stratus
sorry, let me backread whats happening here
stone pebble
You even said you havent even played the game
hexed smelt
It looks like we have someone who joined the server fifteen minutes ago and has been spamming since then.
eager vortex
please do
I like how he turned mature the moment mods joined
stone pebble
Oh crap
eager vortex
what did I just see
stone pebble
I'm too immature, I'm gonna let the big ppl handle this
quaint hatch
GJ sending it again
eager vortex
pretty sure he got muted
stone pebble
erm
hexed smelt
We're trying to work out what's going on right now
worn apex
i left for 5 minutes what happened here
quaint hatch
Give em time
alpine stratus
yeah , what sparrow said
red coral
those of you who were involved in the discussion, if you could DM one of us an account of the story, that would be a big help.
stone pebble
The story may not be 100% accurate, my memory is horrible
eager vortex
those of you who were involved in the discussion, if you could DM one of us an account of the story, that would be a big help.
@red coral all I know is that the guy specifically dm'd me to ghost ping him in this server, I did and they've been spamming ever since
I swear I have no coorelation to them
hexed smelt
The matter is now resolved, have a nice day everyone 
void walrus
Thank you~
stone pebble
Ah, which noe?
stone pebble
oh no
hexed smelt
not any more he doesn't!
stone pebble
eager vortex
ayyy
quaint hatch
Why tf would be do that
quiet gull
Woah did I miss some saucy drama?
quaint hatch
The sauciest prolly
rancid ember
Oof. Than battle in Tartarus, I really got worked over. I beat the challenge, but I lost two death defiances (granted I started with almost no HP)... There were so many crystals and skulls I just got overwhelmed @.@
austere jacinth
I go feral when Than challenges me. I lose any regard for safety.
hexed smelt
logic brain: if i stand back and do nothing than will clear the room for me
feral brain: I HAVE TO WIN
void walrus
^^^
austere jacinth
Yep.
void walrus
I have the exact same problem
stone pebble
Here's the thing
austere jacinth
Than is probably so disappointed.
stone pebble
We gain money from it
coral prawn
and health
yess hello i am a lurker
void walrus
Than gives you a heart 
It's so cute
quaint hatch
I want heart from than
Also I want to outkill death
Imagine you're enjoying your day in greece
Suddenly a scythe symbol appears above your head
coral prawn
die
rancid ember
Man, I'm so inconsistent and I know the majority of it is my fault lol
Some runs I can easily clear Tartarus with no deaths, others I have no DDs left
Like this one
Though there was a Kiss of Styx in that transition well, so yay
I hope I can get past Lerny and get that sweet, sweet 200+ Darkness (from boosts)
coral prawn
do yall ever have a boring run, and you just kinda wana let yourself die so you can restart without giving up because youd just get the same crap,
but you decide to just push through the run through willpower and win at 20 health left no DD's left or similar
vast fable
Hello i am french so please forgive me if my sentences is bad
quaint hatch
I sometimes just have painful runs where I get almost nothing I need
coral prawn
good enough @vast fable
stone pebble
I mean, I have boring runs, but I just keep going
quaint hatch
After that I usually stop playing hades for the day
stone pebble
Painful runs, at most
coral prawn
it would be better to say "if my sentences are bad" though its good enough
quaint hatch
...
opaque juniper
If i unequip batterfly keepshake will i lose the dmg i gathered until now?
quiet gull
Yes
hexed smelt
yes, you will
vast fable
I have just one question Hades interest me but to be honnest I prefer play on my xbox somebody know if the game coming in other platform except Computer or switch
quaint hatch
Not known so far
quiet gull
Maybe next year, but SSG is a small studio that I believe ports in-house
So it's gonna take a while
vast fable
Ok thanks and I need a big computeur to play it ?
quiet gull
No
Hades is pretty smooth on older PCs, but still check the minimum requirements on steam
ancient monolith
||I've finished main quest of story but i dont understand why zag still keep trying reaching to surface again?||
ornate summit
@ancient monolith ||Hades has officially made Zagreus a warden of the Underworld, with his job being to test its defenses in repeated escape attempts.||
limpid crown
Who's the easiest god to get their legendary boon? I'm going for that purge achievement :')
ornate summit
||The Olympic Gods still believe he's truly trying to escape, however||
Probably Poseidon, Dazom
Zeus can work too
ancient monolith
Thanks a lot 
ornate summit
Uh, probably? Though Hermes might be more limited
I believe all the legendaries are locked behind a bonus effect for a god, now that I think about it. Let me check
limpid crown
Yes
ornate summit
Cheers, Latte.
lethal igloo
Herme's I've managed to get just from having his keepsake on and things that increase boon rarity
limpid crown
Hermes has the easiest requirements but you can't target him
quiet gull
I think Duo Boons count for that
ornate summit
Hermes is a bit weird
quiet gull
Since I'm pretty sure I got it selling a Duo, and others anecdotally say so too
limpid crown
Oh really?
ornate summit
He's guaranteed to appear, but only 2-3 times
limpid crown
I COULD HAVE DONE THAT AGES AGO
quiet gull
The game kinda treats Duos and Legendaries as the same rarity, I believe
ornate summit
That'd make sense
quiet gull
Also, you really should check the requirements for Legendary boons in your codex
limpid crown
I'm trying to get as many duos as possible but rngod is messy
ornate summit
Side bonus, you also qualify for RUSH DELIVERY
Actually he has two legendaries, one for Infernal (Greater Recall) and another for Stygian (Bad News)
Movespeed builds are hilarious though, would recommend
You stop dashing purely for speed
limpid crown
I'll try the poseidon first even though I hate knockback tbh lol
limpid crown
What do you suggest
ornate summit
Give it a whirl on hidden Aegis, perhaps? Or any Aegis, really
Tidal Shot ain't too bad either, you could try that
limpid crown
i'll be doing that later, thanks <3
mighty token
Personally I think Aegis is a lil broken lol
I have yet to find something bad on Aegis. Like you can kinda just make it work lol
ornate summit
Its damage isn't there on paper but you can be a lot more aggressive thanks to the ability to block and charge
mighty token
Aegis? Bash the enemie's face in with the shield to win.
limpid crown
I feel that Chiron is broken
mighty token
Its damage isn't there on paper but you can be a lot more aggressive thanks to the ability to block and charge
@ornate summit Facts
ornate summit
Chiron has clear downsides but it is very strong
mighty token
^
ornate summit
Absolutely shreds bosses, struggles a little when mobbing since you're mostly burning enemies one by one
void walrus
What's the weapon you're least successful with/find the hardest to work with?
ornate summit
Malphon. No question.
mighty token
Freaking Coranach and every damn one of its aspects
ornate summit
I have considerably more luck with Stygius.
ornate summit
Coronacht takes some getting used to
ornate summit
It really emphasises a more calculated playstyle instead of being thoroughly aggressive
mighty token
My gf is the one who made that joke too
quiet gull
4th Bow is awesome too, you can just turn your brain off and watch the big numbers
mighty token
It really emphasises a more calculated playstyle instead of being thoroughly aggressive
@ornate summit My play style is that of a Berserker so thats hard for me
void walrus
I'm still fairly early in game, I have like 7 clears so far, but I actually have yet to clear with stygius
mighty token
^ same
rancid ember
Non-Chiron Coronacht is only really much better against mobs of mobs (lol) if you have something like Zeus or Ares special or a good Daedalus Hammer upgrade for it. It's too spread out and each shot does so little damage
mighty token
I have a few with Aegis, one with Malpon, and one with Varatha
void walrus
I've cleared with all but stygius, I think I have two on coronacht
ornate summit
Stygius is a bit odd
Nemesis is extremely powerful if you don't mind playing into its loop of slamming every three seconds
Poseidon's just neat for casting setups
Zagreus kinda exists, attack speed synergises with absolutely everything at least and it's cheap to invest in
void walrus
I lean towards Nemesis but I'll probably give Poseidon a go this next run?
void walrus
Poseidon is also the last god I have yet to get all boons from (other than legendary) so maybe poseidon-themed run is in order
ornate summit
Breaking Wave can be incredibly funny in the Temple of Styx, by the way.
Cramped chambers. Wall-slams send enemies pinballing.
mighty token
Poseidon is also the last god I have yet to get all boons from (other than legendary) so maybe poseidon-themed run is in order
@void walrus Doing a WaterBoi run is most def wild as hell
void walrus
I'll have to try it then!
Pray rng is kind to me and it actually gives me riptide, that's the only one I'm missing
ornate summit
You mean Rip Current?
void walrus
Yes, that one =w =
ornate summit
It makes basic Poseidon's Aid pretty silly
stone pebble
poseidon go weeeee
mighty token
Brrrrrrrrrr brrrrrrrrrr
ornate summit
[pinball board sfx]
void walrus
I find Poseidon's Aid one of my more often picked calls so fancy version would be nice
Rng pls n thx
ornate summit
It's a good panic button as a Greater Call.
old hare
Hi guys I started playing Hades a few weeks ago, are the weapons aspects and companions only available after the first clear of the game or do they just appear in the late game?
old hare
Ahh ok, thanks!
agile cargo
aspects become available as soon as you get a titan blod i think, except the hidden ones
old hare
I got titan blood but I don't know what to do with it
brisk trail
no, you need to unlock all weaps first
stone pebble
ye
agile cargo
oh ok
I got titan blood but I don't know what to do with it
@old hare you can upgrade the base damage of your weapons
brisk trail
also i really hate rail without the no reload upgrade
ornate summit
You could arguably unlock Aspects without getting a single clear
brisk trail
nooo
agile cargo
i think ppl who enjoy fps games are more comfortable with rail bc theyre used to press reload every second they are existing
stone pebble
No no, you have to get the other weapons by unlocking other weapons
oh
I read that wrong
rancid ember
Wow, it's surprising just how good Zeus Special is with spear
stone pebble
yeah
rancid ember
Of course I got the epic version, but
old hare
YESS, I love the spear
stone pebble
its because its a thunderbolt, not chain-lightning
ornate summit
I've actually been trying to do Varatha Special setups
Finally got the bouncing skewer upgrade, it's jank and I love it
SEVEN bounces.
ornate summit
Doesn't appear on hidden Varatha
stone pebble
yes
shy phoenix
omg.. i just noticed* the companions.. there're greek letters. alpha, betta, gamma, delta, epsilon, and Ƶ....
spot the odd one out.. i can't unnotice. D:
ornate summit
Zeta?
mighty token
That hidden Aspect? Chef's kiss. On Varatha I mean
shy phoenix
no it's not a zeta. it's a Z.
ornate summit
Oh, huh
faint flume
why
shy phoenix
my immersion ruin
faint flume
I just did an achilles run aiming to get merciful end and some decent levels of lambent plume, and whilst I ended up getting merciful end with the fountain in styx, Hermes offered me his cast legendary, and later on Ares gave me his legendary lmao
tryna push me into an Ares cast build
stone pebble
Their casts are p good imo
rancid ember
Hermes attack speed increase seems very nice for spin attack charge
stone pebble
Attack speed Zag Sword is really fun
with cursed slash as well
and Attack speed Exagryph
ornate summit
Chain Skewer, that's the one.
Your Special hits up to 7 foes, dealing +30% base damage for each.
stone pebble
poggers
rancid ember
Oh wow Alecto's saws are nastier than I realized, I just had some brutal encounters with them and lost multiple DDs lol
wise sail
who should i give ambrosia to i have 2
ornate summit
Whoever you want tbh
agile cargo
btw is poseidons special boon good for chiron bow or sth bc i never heard someone saying its good but i shredded absolutely everything with it last time, it became even stronger with sea storm duo boon but still rly good on its own
or was it bc it was heroic
wise sail
should i trade them for titan blood instead?
ornate summit
Nah, Titan Blood is more common
wise sail
thanks
next sphinx
Anyone mind weighing in on my fists upgrades? Its between heavy knuckle (your attack becomes a 3-hit sequence; each deals 35 base damage) and quake cutter (after using your special, deal 90 damage in an area where you land). I’m using Aspect of Talos.
mighty token
When I did that I took doom and weak on special and it smacked hard af
Personally I prefer the one that boosts dash attacks and maybe long knuckle
next sphinx
Oh man I definitely need to try that in another run, going for sea storm on this one
mighty token
everything hits because the dash sweep is the forth attack in sequence
Oooo good luck
next sphinx
Thank you! I’ve had some crazy luck so far, Heroic Athena Dash and Heroic Poseidon attack, and I’m still in Tartarus
stone pebble
This community is so wholesome
besides the occasional trolls
well, not occasional
but "ininvited" I suppose
next sphinx
Unfortunate side affect of having communities
mighty token
Take my nectar sir/madam
next sphinx
Don’t say that, cringe is just a word judgemental people started using to say “this person is having too much fun”
mighty token
What does your keepsakedo?
stone pebble
i dunno, brighten your day?
mighty token
next sphinx
That’s a darn good keepsake
mighty token
Legendary Keepsake right there
stone pebble
next sphinx
Oof that feeling when you lose a dd to Alecto - how dare you, Ma’am!
stone pebble
Yeah, she's a toughie
mighty token
She's tough because she actually enjoys beatin ya behind
Everyone else its their job.
"Redblood"
next sphinx
I would argue Meg enjoys it a little
next sphinx
Give her all the nectar and keep being sweet and polite to her
stone pebble
You'll be helping her with some "Parchment Work" soon I think
mighty token
Huehuehuehue
rancid ember
Nothing like getting rid of two boons you wanted to get an extra DD...
stone pebble
not a bad deal at all
next sphinx
Oh noo
rancid ember
I mean they weren't amazing boons
stone pebble
If it was attack and special boons, equipping the shattered shackle could help
rancid ember
It was just Artemis cast and +10% attack speed
stone pebble
o rip
rancid ember
Is it bad that rn I've just been wearing Lucky Tooth all the time? Like I don't take it off XD
stone pebble
Its not bad, you get some pretty sweet interactions with his associate
(s)
But who knows!
ornate summit
Ugh, okay, Charged Skewer is not a good idea on anything other than hidden Varatha
ember olive
10h mix of Chaos ambience when plz :)
ornate summit
Yes, and it's incredibly good since it already has a slow Special
stone pebble
I thought you meant the chain one
ornate summit
Chain Skewer isn't on hidden Varatha
stone pebble
o?
ornate summit
Just not available
mighty token
Ugh, okay, Charged Skewer is not a good idea on anything other than hidden Varatha
@ornate summit Fact, and the dmg it does is wild
stone pebble
Poseidon hidden Varatha Charged Skewer is crazy I feel
I one shot my way through tartarus
and few enemies in asphodel
ornate summit
I'm more speaking to the fact that Charged Skewer feels terrible on normal Varatha Aspects
mighty token
def agree^
ornate summit
I died to Asterius trying to get it to work
Chain Skewer and Hades' Varatha, though. Good stuff.
ornate summit
Hades' Varatha actually synergises really well with Deadly Strike, in my experience
Or Flourish for that matter
mighty token
^
ornate summit
Punishing Sweep shores up the low damage boost from either.
stone pebble
This is how I feel when Asterius still crushes me when I do the Achillies bull rush
inland fossil
Yo guys trying to get into speedrun, any advice?
stone pebble
Casts are probably your best choice for weapons
I saw a speedrun with this one guy
only using casts
it was crazy
Arty cast btw
pliant sparrow
i think the fastest speedrun is eris railgun + zeus attack
theres a guide on speedrun hades website tho
inland fossil
Yah so like ||poseidon aspect? ||
pliant sparrow
edit: the top 10 fastest speedruns are all eris lmao
pliant sparrow
pliant sparrow
fastest in game time is 5:56
stone pebble
Godspeed, my friend
inland fossil
Bablo?
stone pebble
casts and all that
mighty token
What in Hades
inland fossil
Haha
inland fossil
i see
void walrus
4:35 you gotta be joking
pliant sparrow
thats a seeded run tho?
mighty token
Witht he freakin gGUN no less
HOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
ill watch in a second
quaint hatch
Lol eris is one of the, I'd not the, strongest aspects rn
pliant sparrow
idk how seastorm on it is supposed to work
like its a ranged weapon but you still have to dash at them?
weary parrot
i have a question regarding eurydice's heart unlock.. i have orpheus' heart unlocked but not eurydice's? dont they have the same favor?
stone pebble
Have you met Eurydice ||with orphy there?||
quaint hatch
Youll dash either way
weary parrot
mhm
quaint hatch
Also eris with rockets bomb is played p close quarters
weary parrot
have given orpheus ambrosia too
quaint hatch
Since you dash into your rocket
stone pebble
Huh, I dunno how I did it
quaint hatch
Have you voided his ||contract||?
pliant sparrow
whuts zeus spear? @rancid ember
weary parrot
yeah! theyre tgt
rancid ember
Zeus Special boon with spear lol
quaint hatch
Just random dialogue then
weary parrot
no idea hhow to tag spoilers, lol so trying to phrase this as vaguely as possible but it seems like ive fulfilled her favor conditions but still cant give ambrosia
pliant sparrow
"Your Special causes a lightning bolt to strike nearby foes." ?
rancid ember
Yes
stone pebble
The lightning bolt is actually pretty underestimated imo
rancid ember
|| on either side is how you spoiler
quaint hatch
On both sides
rancid ember
er, both sides
quaint hatch
Not either
weary parrot
ah thank you
rancid ember
Using "either" in the sense of "each" lol
pliant sparrow
i tried to get into spear with hidden aspect / deadly flourish and its always super op until the last boss battle where i just die :c
pliant sparrow
ive gotten to 10 heat with other weapons but idk i dont like being a glass cannon
weary parrot
so is there any way i can unlock her favor? maybe im wrong, and idm spoilers! cos it seems like ive reached the end of any dialogue w her
quaint hatch
That's in you then xDD
Hers is connected to orpheus
They don't have a seperate one
weary parrot
yeagh ive unlocked orpheus' so
quaint hatch
ive gotten to 10 heat with other weapons but idk i dont like being a glass cannon
@pliant sparrow either play cast builds with achilles to circumvent playing spear or try hades
Then it's just a random dialogue thing afaik
weary parrot
if thehre the same onnes why cant i unlock hers 😭
ah maybe, ill keep playin then! ty
quaint hatch
As soon as you ||see them together In Asphodel|| it should unlock
quaint hatch
In the npc room?
weary parrot
yeah in the room in asphodel
quaint hatch
Then you should unlock her heart
high island
Is #h1-builds-and-combat broken for anybody else? 
weary parrot
the thing is it isnt and idk what to do
quaint hatch
Idk didn't get any new messages there
weary parrot
a bug maybbe?
quaint hatch
Yup
Also broken for me
a bug maybbe?
@weary parrot so to sum up: you have orpheus maxed out and ||seen them together||, also Euridice up to the locked heart?
weary parrot
not maxxed out but ive given him one bottle of ambrosia
quaint hatch
Well makes no difference in that context
limpid crown
i can access it now @high island
quaint hatch
You should prolly visit her in the room a couple times
high island
Yeah, it works again. Thanks.
quaint hatch
If still nothing changes then maybe F10
As you might know hades dialogue system is very finnicky
high island
Now I'm getting it in my own server in one channel lol. Hope they're fixing that soon.
quaint hatch
Happened to me a couple days ago
Every second message I sent went nowhere
Had to send everything twice
quaint hatch
You can still go to #h1-tech-support
But I'd recommend speaking to them in apshodel a couple times first
weary parrot
yeah ill do that, thank you!
quaint hatch
As I said, dialogue unlocks can be very excruciating
rancid ember
Part of me slightly resents the fated prophecies for the Daedalus hammers, because I just got an upgrade I really didn't want in place of one I did, because I still needed it for the prophecy lol
rancid ember
I mean it's not technically required but. Eh.
void walrus
Some of the rewards are quite good for minimal effort for prophecies too
rancid ember
Ugggh Asterius is so brutal. I still haven't reached a good understanding of how to fight him... Dash through his attacks, I think was the advice, but... hrm.
stone pebble
I mean, it's bound to happen :)
rancid ember
I just died to him as midboss lol
stone pebble
Thats why its called "The fated list of minor prophecies"
keep your range and attack when he isnt attacking
rancid ember
Hmm...
spare hemlock
some of yall: finally beat hades after 30 runs!
me, with 40+ runs and god mode on, whos only gotten to the second asphodel chamber: 👁️ 👄 👁️
rancid ember
I know that feel
Maybe not as bad, but I've reached Styx once in like. 56, 57 runs?
Also I haven't used God Mode
mighty token
Nectar for your troubles
rancid ember
...it's tempting to tbh lol but I don't think it's strictly necessary. I've made a lot of progress, so I should be able to make it further on my own...
pliant sparrow
Just cheese with chiron bow
rancid ember
Chiron bow isn't that cheesy. ...Until you add a good boon (Artemis?) and the upgrade that adds +4 shots to your special lol
It still wouldn't give me all the bounties though!
brisk trail
I beat hades somewhere between run 30-50
rancid ember
I used to think I was "good at video games" but when I played different things (especially roguelikes) and compared my performance to others' it turned out to be kind of lacking...
pliant sparrow
you just bring artemis keepsake for tartarus
brisk trail
Ive got 19 clears and im somewhere between 80-90 runs now
pulsar timber
chiron is easy mode imo
pliant sparrow
or run dionysus, ares, any stacking boon
pulsar timber
very easy to get a strong build, and you can pretty much do tons of damage from safe distance while running away from enemies
brisk trail
I used to think I was "good at video games" but when I played different things (especially roguelikes) and compared my performance to others' it turned out to be kind of lacking...
It depends on what you are good at
You could be a god at this game (hshehehe get it) and still be garbage in your average fps
Also hades is one of the easier roguelike/lite ive played
pliant sparrow
yah wizard of legend/ enter the gungeon are super hard (to me) at least
brisk trail
Then again i play on the switch and just dont need to aim
Id say hades difficulty is pretty similar to dead cells
etg is definitely harder
@pliant sparrow i will now be banned
pliant sparrow
?
thick crypt
|| How do i get those persons thumbnails at the keepsake i saw at haelian's YT video||
quaint hatch
I will not it down as funny
And laugh next time it comes up
|| How do i get those persons thumbnails at the keepsake i saw at haelian's YT video||
@thick crypt ||max their relationships||
brisk trail
I appreciate it
brisk trail
Who did yall max first
gleaming granite
Charon
brisk trail
It was mr boat dude charon personally
thick crypt
does maxing give anything other than story-lore?
gleaming granite
my second one was cerberus
wet hornet
does maxing give anything other than story-lore?
@thick crypt ||some characters give secondary keepsakes||
thick crypt
|| you mean the bottom row ones that i knew||
wet hornet
yes those. otherwise no i guess nothing other than story lore
thick crypt
gotcha
pulsar timber
||you also get an icon on the keepsakes||
wet hornet
thick crypt
thats what i just found out aswell yea nickless
alpine fulcrum
no kidding
cedar remnant
Everyone says they want a Norse mythology "version" of Hades, but can you imagine something similar with Egyptian gods?
quiet gull
what is the point of losing hearts from double boon chambers
@alpine fulcrum What do you mean "losing hearts"?
Health? Taking damage?
alpine fulcrum
affection or whatever
cedar remnant
you don't actually make the god hate you, they just have a line for when you pick the other god's boon
you don't lose that
quiet gull
You dont lose affection
alpine fulcrum
oh ok then i guess it was a heart unlocking
quiet gull
Trials have no negative consequences whatever
quaint hatch
tiny grove
a higher chance of death
quaint hatch
Imagine taking a trial makes you lose a heart
alpine fulcrum
i thought maybe it was like if you stiff the same god too many times in a row or something
just as an 'easter egg' mechanic
quaint hatch
Easter egg mechanic
quaint hatch
Here lose progress
alpine fulcrum
what if roguelikes were more like nethack
quaint hatch
Or rogue
alpine fulcrum
nethack has so much more wild nonsense going on though
quaint hatch
I'm sry
I'll try to make my bad jokes a bit more accurate next time
quaint hatch
There are enough games out there that should satisfy your chaotic side
alpine fulcrum
and most of them never learn that games like nethack and dwarf fortress exist
alpine fulcrum
yeah im not just talking about roguelikes anymore
alpine fulcrum
just games that are stupidly complex
half mica
Does parting shot work with shadow slash?
half mica
Damn
native sorrel
Twitter
quaint hatch
Relatable
frosty talon
https://imgur.com/thxmNNN
https://imgur.com/rND5kTz
somebody knows what to do if steam doesnt unlock a achievement? I got the pop-up alert ingame but it didnt register
got it https://imgur.com/lSIdeoT I forgot to unlock the Guan Yu aspect
faint moon
I was keeping track of some details about each run in a note on my phone, but oh my, Supergiant understands my love for data, because I just unlocked the method to view details about past runs in-game and I love it so much!!
void walrus
This may be one of the few games I go out of my way to 100%
pulsar timber
ranks ruined my dream of 100% this game, too grindy for me
but 100% achievements wasn't bad
vague flicker
rancid ember
Man, I've only noticed like, one fishing hole since I got the rod a few runs ago. Sad.
rancid ember
Hmm, I see
rancid ember
Hmm. Here's a question, though it may be more Steam related than Hades related. What happens if you qualify for an achievement while offline? Will Steam recognize it when you get online?
native wave
that is a good question, idk. I've had steam give me achievements after offline play once I finally got back online
I assume it's on a game-by-game basis though
like when FTL's steam achievements went online
I got them all, so idk if it's looking at a save file or what
rancid ember
Alright... hopefully it won't be an issue in this case, since my internet is currently down.
In other news... maybe I should have switched to Infernal Soul before I started this run with Poseidon aspect
native wave
🤷 I would've myself
stygian with a cast build, you'r ekinda counting on extra casts from chaos aren't you?
or mebbe artemis leg
but ye, poseidon's main strength is mitigating the downside of bloodstones
which is them lodging against bosses rly
so stygian + poseidon, idk, doens't sound great
imo
rancid ember
Ooh, nice, I beat Than 29 to 4 xD
And yeah, I just didn't think about it and went "well, I guess cast damage is better than nothing"
idle hornet
hey guys theres this fist upgrade where the dash attack pierces foes, but how does that help when its such a short range attack?
rancid ember
Have you tried it in combat?
idle hornet
no, im asking before deciding which hammer to take haha
native wave
doesn't it give +dash atk damage tho
idle hornet
+900% against armor
wet hornet
i would say that's worth for elysium tbh
idle hornet
what does piercing do tho? that i can hit multiple enemies?
oh wait the shields
haha im stupid
alright thanks!
native wave
some nasty enemies it'll help against in the last biome too
alpine fulcrum
At first I thought +damage against armor was a trap since bosses don't have armor
But actually it's very good
flat vapor
piercing goes through both shields and enemies
rancid ember
I used to be so scared to activate troves, but now they usually seem so easy. Especially the Tartarus ones, which seem to be most of them
Also yes, I'm aware I talk too much lol. At least I haven't started venting randomly about miscellaneous stuff here yet
;
native wave
I usually only take obols
native wave
ye, troves aren't a great idea if you're using tight deadline at all
tepid plover
hello fellow shades 
native wave
hey maaaan
stone pebble
kinda diony"sus"
rancid ember
I mean, all alcohol is poison lol. Dio's is just so potent that if you're not prepared the hangovers are just. Killer :D
tepid plover
anyone seen vo1di? 😿
rancid ember
Did they get a bad hangover?
Beating Tisiphone with near full HP, even with Cursed Slash, feels very good.
pliant sparrow
Whats the right timing to dodge final boss circle attack while still remaining in circle?
agile cargo
theoretically speaking is hermes’ keepsake good for styx bc a lot of small encounters
i dont usually use that one but i wanna complete hermes’ favor
alpine fulcrum
o wow, extra dashes on the fourth gloves
time to get two more dashes from hermes and poseidon dash and go crazy
rancid ember
How does one avoid getting utterly wrecked by bone hydra melee while using sword? Should I just slowly plink away with Cast?
...actually apparently the secret is just to dash away every few seconds to let it attack lol
quiet gull
theoretically speaking is hermes’ keepsake good for styx bc a lot of small encounters
@agile cargo Hermes' and Thanatos' keepsakes only count each wing of Styx as a single encounter, not each room
rancid ember
Beat Hydra with full HP. Nice. Cursed Slash is super powerful. I'll probably still fall apart like wet tissue paper as soon as I meet the bull, but, c'est la vie
agile cargo
oh my god
alpine fulcrum
strategy against bone hydra is to have enough damage to kill it in 1 hit
i mean to kill the other heads in one hit
brisk trail
I don’t like cursed slash
tender wasp
is there a bug report section? i found a small font inconsistently
brisk trail
@tender wasp #h1-tech-support I’m pretty sure
tender wasp
ty!
pliant sparrow
brisk trail
Yeah I love all the stuff hidden in the background
One of the things i like about the art is the little snippets of colors in the background
Like
I’m pretty sure I heard a room once on ||em3||if you go around in i forget the name I’m tired sorry you can see thesus on his ||ATV||
Asphodel is mostly just orange yellow red and black
But you still got greens and pinks nestled into the edges of stuff
agile cargo
the little sheen and shines
brisk trail
Yes
rancid ember
Ouch. Lost two DDs to Zeus trial. Right after visiting Patroclus too.
brisk trail
That’s got to suck m8
tiny grove
Trials are no joke
brisk trail
Also glimmer of dawn how dare you call yourself the high priest of bouldy without a bouldy pfp, bouldy is going to pay you a visit
tiny grove
stone pebble
The sky may or may not grant you a boulder to crush you
floral hound
It's like those times with Infernal Troves
"imma just do this for quick HP"
fast forward
DD and 150 HP down
Worth it.
void walrus
I'm laughing so hard rn. Aspect of Zag + Flurry Slash + epic Swift Strike + piercing wave
stone pebble
yes
brisk trail
Oh no
void walrus
I just hold down the button and everything dies??
stone pebble
yes
brisk trail
Kiss lernie good bye
void walrus
Maybe I'll finally beat big bad with stygius
stone pebble
I faced ||charon|| with that build and didnt lose a single dd
ivory wedge
Wow, 16 runs, exactly 3333 enemies slain
brisk trail
||after I beat Charon once it took me about 100 run for his bag to come back||
rancid ember
omg! I beat Theseus again! Second time <3
stone pebble
ThesEZus
brisk trail
Congrats you’ve beaten the wonder twins
rancid ember
I feel like Zeus dash helped a lot o.o I just. Brutalized him XD Once Asterius was gone it was easy
I'm getting better!
I love how easily measurable progress is in this game, it's so encouraging
Omg why
I got three fishing points this run
And failed them all
Does it get easier? XD
floral hound
If you're using a controller, vibration on the left side = fake bop
I just wait for the flash personally
neon mist
||How do you trigger Charon's fight? Also I remember seeing a trailer of the game where we saw that you can fight the gods, is that a thing or am I mistaken?||
rancid ember
Omgomg I HAVE REACHED THE FINAL BOSS
floral hound
||Sometimes a sack appears behind/near him with "borrow" option. Try to borrow it and there you go.||
@neon mist
Good luck
Don't panic
rancid ember
I will doubtless die horribly but this is an amazing milestone
neon mist
Also Leaf, what about my other question?
floral hound
Which
oh
I'm not sure about the latter part
I'm 45ish clears in and I havent seen anything like that
neon mist
Fair enough.
rancid ember
And died lol. I saw the tell for the spin a couple times, but failed to get out of way...
neon mist
Cheers anyway
floral hound
Yeah, that got me quite a few times as well until got the hang of it
rancid ember
I should probably figure out how to get a good setup on my controller. Requires seeing if I can adjust it through Steam... my movement has been especially imprecise with keyboard
neon mist
Generally what I do when it comes to the ring attack is either attack from far away with something like the spear or I hit him a couple of times, then hold shield because that blocks every frontal attack or if I have the fists I just pummel once or twice than yeet myself out and weave in
opaque nexus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/778080271538323507/unknown.png hey guys in case you didn't know Vorime is representing Hades at agdq 2021
raven lava
i have enough titan blood to max any aspect
which aspects are fun and perform best when maxed
zealous flare
raven lava
i already have max eris rail
opaque nexus
(Hidden sword spoilers) ||Arthur|| is really good until high ||heat||
raven lava
i also have that maxed :)
raven lava
okay i have
um
eris rail
hidden sword
hidden spear
zag sword
chaos shield
nemesis sword i think
and then one or two points in every other aspect except the other hidden ones
alpine fulcrum
Is shield just good for higher heat in general?
rapid forum
It is one of the safer ones
rancid ember
Man, I really need to get titan blood to improve Chiron. Even +1 arrow would make a world of difference
+25% damage from base lol
Tempted to trade that ambrosia I got...
robust scaffold
rapid forum
Or luck sac and get relentless volley
tiny grove
dont use chiron if its too low lvl
lvl 1 is the saddest thing
pliant sparrow
why does hidden sword fall off high heat?
shy phoenix
high heat as in really high heat. anything 20 and below where bouties are concern is no problem.
it falls off because swings relatively slowly.
ruby heron
does anyone know if the red shade whos a zag fan in the elysium bossfight have an official name??? i love them
tiny grove
yeah you kinda feel like you have to dash strike 98% of the time
which isn't the highest dps way to use that aspect
shy phoenix
just keep being a good listener
rancid ember
I wonder if there will ever be people with such utter mastery of the game that speeders of progressive wins through every heat level will be a thing
...speedruns.
F you too phone lol
next anchor
i didnt know there was a time to just strike an enemy, im always dash-striking anyway
lone flame
I am having trouble getting the prophecy for ||Friendly Wager. I have best Charon twice without dying to him since getting the prophecy but it won’t activate. I spoke to Hermes since then and he didn’t mention it. Do you need to win all the runs between defeating Charon?||
analog elbow
I think that might be a bug, you have to beat him again
You can always F10 it
I thought it was fixed some time ago, but aparently not
shy phoenix
switch hasn't recieved the update. you'll still need one more
lone flame
Ah ok. TYVM
delicate pilot
i swear 99% of the time i see a switch user having a problem it's because they are behind in updates
shy phoenix
console life
delicate pilot
it's never like "I'm a switch user and my game says it's corrupt and won't launch" it's always "I'm a switch user and I am having this problem" immediately followed by "you have to wait for the update"
lone flame
Yeah and the switch updates are super far behind too. I didn’t even realize now we’re two patches behind. ._.
median cloak
This game is so so good.
stone pebble
Dang
When alecto calls me ||trash god|| I remember the old days...
competitive gaming at its finest
radiant estuary
We're all gods of trash down here
fringe garnet
does anyone have a high-res screenshot of the grasping shade hands? from the administrative chambers?
stone pebble
...what for?
storm terrace
Why is there a steal option in Charons thing?? Why is "Borrow" in red?
sonic ridge
:)
wheat kayak
)))
rapid forum
: )