I'm happy the UI even updates
#h1-discussion
ornate summit
carmine ravine
i think its mostly homer that does that
wooden anchor
The mental torture when you have Daedalus, Chaos Gate, and Infernal Gate in the same room.
rare obsidian
I'd prolly go Chaos unless the Infernal Gate is really good
rare obsidian
Yeah, but you're guaranteed future Daedalus hammers if you skip early enough
I'd take a Chaos gate over a hammer in Tartarus easily
wooden anchor
So usually you get 2 Hammer in a run, if you skip the first one do you still get 2 in the later rooms?
hard pier
Ya
wooden anchor
Alright thanks.
wooden anchor
Indeed he can.
upper carbon
Dude
i was using swords final aspect
and I had the bull in the circle when the fight ended
the door closed before he could get out lol
he walked through it
robust scaffold
doors cant stop him
upper carbon
he still had the effect on him after he walked out of it lol
wooden anchor
lol You can't say holy crap?
Holy molly, ||Max Pack of Punishment Hades has 3 lives?||
wooden anchor
God dammit...
robust scaffold
rest in peace
granite ether
@upper carbon 4th aspects are spoilers in this channel please use spoiler tags ^_^
tall heath
i have a question, i gave to a ghost in hades room ten keys and 1000 dark stones, does he gave me a buff, what changed ?
wooden anchor
You didn't read the text when the game introduced the ghost did you?
tall heath
yes i didn't
granite ether
Please spoiler tag that @tall heath ^_^
brisk trail
It's jjst a neat icon on your healtg bar
upper carbon
corrected
wooden anchor
You yesn't.
wheat kayak
||Resource Director||
robust scaffold
oh lo l
wheat kayak
Basically a lategame option to waste resource
robust scaffold
i forgot that existed hahahah
tall heath
nice
wheat kayak
Because what else are you going to spend on
severe flare
he's a shade, not a ghost, is it?
granite ether
robust scaffold
yea
brisk trail
Wooing dusa
wooden anchor
What's the difference in Hades' world?
robust scaffold
shades are dead people
wooden anchor
So are ghosts?
bronze ravine
Ghosts would be shades stuck in in the world of the living ig
tall heath
ressource director rank is just pure cosmetics
(i don t know how to make a spoiler message)
wooden anchor
Put || before and after your message.
bronze ravine
|| on both sides
tall heath
|| thanks ||
violet stone
I think somebody for sure suggested this before, but I'd love to see some kind of "demigod mode", which is exactly like God mode, but all the numbers are halved. I'm pretty sure all of this has been playtested, but my experience was loathing the last fight for the longest time, enabling God mode out of desperation, and then getting to the credits pretty easily. Would've loved to adjust difficulty curve even more
tiny grove
I have a 9 inch ||pizza||
@wooden anchor That's such a clickbait spoiler
wooden anchor
😂
wheat kayak
Honestly if God Mode is adjustable that'd be cool
I don't need it anymore but I always appreciate having options
violet stone
Yeah, I also would love to not just disable it, but to pause further increase. I'm at 60% now, and getting back to 0% would be pretty bad I think, while stopping at around 50% or less would be cool
severe flare
I'd love to see Ambrosia at Charon's shop - Temple of Styx
violet stone
But having it here is a huge plus. I stopped having fun at some point because of my skills, I enabled it and kept having fun. That felt really thoughtful
cedar remnant
I just got the credit roll, and when I went into the skelly room, the ||queen's gardens|| were mentioned. How do I get there?
severe flare
1 diamond is not enough for me
brisk trail
On the right wing
cedar remnant
OH i see
brisk trail
Of the house before entering yoyr room
cedar remnant
thanks didn't notice that
wooden anchor
Honestly the first 50 hours of the game is fantastic, one of the best rogue-lite I've played ever, and I've played over 50 rogue-like games now. But after that the titan blood grind is too much and you have to invest at least 5 hours to make a single aspect useable. It kind hinders the flows of the game.
severe flare
everyone else takes Nectar and never gives back
you don't need to grind
just increase heat
play game with skill
wooden anchor
That's what I mean grind.
severe flare
I've gotten a lot of Titan bloods, ambrosias, diamonds
brisk trail
It's still rather long though, at least some aspects don't need heavy investment
severe flare
I have a workaround
brisk trail
Broker?
severe flare
I have a lot of gemstone
not used
I trade them for Titan bloods
1000 gem = 1 Titan Blood
brisk trail
That's either 1k gems or 15 keys
You'd need vanquisher's keep and some chaos/poseidon farming
wooden anchor
It's super exciting in the first 50 hours. Every time you return to the hall you have something new to discover, new quest, new story, new weapon and mechanics to unlock. But after you've finished the main questline and enter the Titan Blood grind, the un-useable aspects are just laying there taunting you.. 😂
violet stone
I never felt I needed more blood than I was getting. Never tried upgrading all aspects though, only those I liked using
severe flare
I upgrade them all
to the max level
299 runs though
30 mins to 1 hr playing Hades every day
more on Sat and Sun
wooden anchor
That's the thing, it should be encouraging players to try out new and exciting aspect without asking them to grind at least 5 hours depending on the aspect.
Honest I think 2 or 3 hours to level up a single aspect to max would be ideal.
wooden anchor
Yeah that would be cool as well.
bronze ravine
Idlk, never felt grindy to me, even more with btoker especially if you actually use all the weapons to get the bounties
wooden anchor
OR, Fury sisters give 2 when Extreme Measure enabled and ||Hades|| gives 3.
severe flare
yess!
bronze ravine
And ||heat|| gives a lot
wooden anchor
How deep are you into the game? @bronze ravine
severe flare
I played an indie game before, named Road Redemption. It was also grindy.
My guess is almost indie games are grindy.
sorry if you don't like this
violet stone
Maybe just prices going up for some aspects could be dialed down, I guess. First aspect is 5 blood to full, last is 15 — that feels fine for me, late aspects are hard to master anyway, and 5 blood is ok. But 2 mid aspects are more than 10 to full I think? That's probably too much
bronze ravine
Post credit, beat ||h8|| and I have at least one maxed aspect on each weapon plus a bunch of blood here and there
wooden anchor
Not really, rogue-lite can be great even without grindiness.
Yeah you are just about to enter the grind stage.
I have 8 aspects maxed and I want to try out new weapons but the game just doesn't allow me to without putting another 5 hours into it.
bronze ravine
I'm feeling fine, still not at 8 with all weapons, it just happened because I wanted the prize
severe flare
One indie game dev (not SGG) said that the game was not grindy. He made you played over and over so that you could practice your skill!
severe flare
the game is hard -> you need skill -> you need to practice a lot -> you have to grind
Hades is a simple game IMO
wooden anchor
You are gonna need those bloods and ambrosia.
bronze ravine
Also I got a lot from prophecies
brisk trail
Whoa Whale you just lumped every indie game into one raguelite metagame grind
severe flare
ambrosia is good for || companion - legendary keepsake ||
bronze ravine
I'm already using it for various stuff, no shortage so far
violet stone
I have 8 aspects maxed and I want to try out new weapons but the game just doesn't allow me to without putting another 5 hours into it.
@wooden anchor sounds like you are treating weapons as "I can try it only when full upgraded", which is too much of a completionist mindset it feels like. I've got all aspects (except one), I tried running with all of them at least once, and upgraded what I liked. I don't think "unlocking everything" was set as a goal at all,
severe flare
@brisk trail I played a funny indie game. It lasted only 30 mins.
bronze ravine
Advanced a few relation and upped a compa
wooden anchor
Well maybe.
severe flare
you don't need max upgrade unless for high heat IMO
wooden anchor
Because I want to use a weapon at its full power.
violet stone
Like all the house decorations are also a big grind to get I think
wooden anchor
Roguelikes don't have to be grindy to be great, e.g., Slay the Spire, Dead Cells, Isaac.
severe flare
I'm wrong. Maybe just the action indie games are grindy...?
wooden anchor
I have no problem with Decorative items to be grindy. They are just bonus.
severe flare
there are songs in the House of Hades which you must buy with diamonds
wooden anchor
But weapon aspects are core mechanics that shouldn't be this grindy to get.
wooden anchor
Honestly, scaling ||heat|| reward would fix this problem easily.
severe flare
I max upgraded all 24 aspects
I haven't gone past 12|| heat|| yet
there's a lot of rewards
wooden anchor
You have more patience than me in seems.
bronze ravine
Well, this game is about redoing the same run again and again after all
severe flare
I buy diamond/blood at Charon shop, always!
wooden anchor
We do need more level varieties and boss varieties if the game is going to be grindy as heck.
Hopefully DLC solves that.
severe flare
I catch || Trout/Bass || so I get diamond/Ambrosia for free
bronze ravine
Also maybe try to fix yourself objectives from the lists or achievements
wooden anchor
I did, that's my priorities.
bronze ravine
Haven't been lucky with last fishing spot so far
severe flare
You can fish them at || the garden || also
bronze ravine
Saw the light only twice the whole game, both times postcredit and one of those times I died anyway
bronze ravine
Not necessary
stoic kiln
Just for the sake of completion then?
flat vapor
not really, but it's the intended way to progress through the late-game resource system
bronze ravine
Story? No. Lists and such? Yes
stoic kiln
Aight I see
flat vapor
you don't have to, honestly
stoic kiln
I’ll try to get he Zeus upgrade with the bow special THATS the only time I find it fun
flat vapor
i used to play whichever had the darkness boost on it, which is an option
bronze ravine
Did you unlock all weapons yet?
bronze ravine
Same as onyx
bronze ravine
Oh, wait before judging then, you still have an interesting mechanic to unlock
The one with a purple dark aura
wooden anchor
Bow is probably my favorite weapon.
bronze ravine
You get a bonus of recolted darkness, nice for farming
stoic kiln
Bow is probably my favorite weapon.
@wooden anchor different strokes for different folks
wooden anchor
You can use it like a shotgun in hugging range and you can use it to snipe enemies afar in long range.
stoic kiln
yeah that’s what I’m saying
The shotgun with the Zeus upgrade is fun.
The bow special shotgun
bronze ravine
@wooden anchor he has yet unlock aspects
wooden anchor
||Aspect of Rama|| is amazing as well. If you find the triple shot upgrade you can use it like a superpowered shotgun in hugging range.
stoic kiln
Aight ty
wooden anchor
Well the default bow is alright. Pretty standard.
bronze ravine
Yeah, but if he doesn't find it fun maybe the other aspects will change that
bronze ravine
Chiron
wooden anchor
That's an aspect that you kind HAVE to max it out for it to be useable.
Otherwise it's kind bad.
bronze ravine
Doesn't have to be maxed but it does want some more investment
flat vapor
dinesh, if you haven't unlocked all the weapons yet, i'd make that my number one priority
important stuff gets unlocked at that point
half mica
||dash nova|| is awful and I hate it
main lark
hey someone can explain what's the vulkan, x64, x86 option it appears before I open Hades?
carmine ravine
its a choice of rendering configurations
flat vapor
Added choice of rendering configurations when starting the game, including a new Vulkan renderer option, which may lead to better performance and stability on some systems (you can also run this version of Hades.exe directly from the x64Vk folder in your install directory)
carmine ravine
what other roguelites that come up this year?
last vessel
ROR2?
flat vapor
ain't spelucky 2 a rogue-esque
carmine ravine
spelunky is like one of the prominent roguelikes yeah
dim grove
Yannow... I'm short enough that I could definitely pull off a Zagreus cosplay
Time to add it to the list of potential artsy things I will never actually do
gleaming granite
maybe a dumb question but in game there is the option to take sceenshots.. but where do they get saved? I can't find them
rapid forum
are you playing on PC?
gleaming granite
yeah
flat vapor
documents/saved games/hades/screenshots
rapid forum
yep
carmine ravine
extra point if u got the shotgun atk
robust sundial
you guys playing DOOM ETERNAL in Hades or what ? 
carmine ravine
i mean u are in hell
fresh magnet
slender monolith
dat goose
static smelt
Anyone know if Exit Wounds still works with Greater Recall?
alpine fulcrum
They don't affect each other
Greater recall only takes effect when the crystal is on the ground
static smelt
Really? So I'll still get the exit wounds damage, but it'll just happen immediately?
Oh ok gotcha
thanks for the help
I have a crush shot build going that is turning out to be really powerful
alpine fulcrum
Crush shot can be strong but I just really don't like it lol
static smelt
yeah i don't either. I only went for it to fill up my ledger thing
alpine fulcrum
I guess mostly it just really needs the rapid fire boon more than other casts
quaint hatch
Why would greater recall affect exit wounds?
static smelt
i have been hoping to get the rapid fire but haven't been lucky. so i've just been pomming crush shot and exit wounds, still really powerful
static smelt
@quaint hatch I didn't know , that's why I asked
I haven't used greater recall much and i couldn't remember if it meant that the crystals no longer lodged into the enemies or not
quaint hatch
It only comes into effect after your stones have dropped
static smelt
yeah i understand now
quaint hatch
Sry that prolly sounded a bit more ride than necessary
fiery fog
Hello everyone ! 🙂 Sorry for my English, I'm French ^^ I have a little bug, I'm completely in my heart with Dusa and can't get the 'forged link', do you have a solution? ^^
quaint hatch
It's not a bug
There's a scene that has to play out afterwards
Only then "bond forged" will appear
ornate summit
You can gift then talk
Might need to talk more
quaint hatch
Afaik ||nyx and than|| have to be present for it to be triggered
You can gift then talk
Might need to talk more
@ornate summit it's just incredibly rare to trigger
fiery fog
Hearts are full for 15-20 runs and I still haven't had the scene, normal? 🙂
quaint hatch
As I said
Yes
There's a scene that has to play out afterwards
@quaint hatch .
You're still missing dialogue
Just do runs
Took me like 40
Or more
fiery fog
Ok ty 🙂
static smelt
Nice, just got my 5th win with that blown kiss build. My fastest run yet, too. That was fun.
quaint hatch
worn apex
yum
tiny grove
mindblowing
stone pebble
how abouit ambrosia tho
worn apex
same
quaint hatch
Ambrosia is like nectar 2 electric boogaloo
worn apex
nectar^2
cedar remnant
"ambrosia is a dessert made with oranges and shredded coconut" - google
cedar remnant
slender monolith
wonder what ambrosia tastes like
quaint hatch
Brain melt
quaint hatch
That's what I meant
slender monolith
Ah
slender monolith
sends you on a sugar rush
cedar remnant
Like Omega Alcohol
quaint hatch
Alcohol 2
slender monolith
the sequel
alpine fulcrum
Neither ambrosia or nectar seems to really mess them up too badly, seems like just the god equivalent of an alcoholic drink
That also tastes really good
quaint hatch
All depends on the dose
quiet gull
They were probably inspired by minoan honey mead
quaint hatch
Ambrosia is it's own thing in greek mythology
cedar remnant
Wouldn't it make sense for them to be inspired by ambrosia and nectar?
slender monolith
it looks like necter
unkempt gyro
So I just completed my first run and I unlocked that Pact of Punishment...I must have missed the explanation, but I don't see what exactly the reward is for increasing the difficulty
cedar remnant
press the "?" in the pact menu
quaint hatch
More bounties
unkempt gyro
Man I really haven't been paying attention I guess lol, Idk what bounties are either
quaint hatch
Boss rewards
cedar remnant
like titan's blood, diamonds, and ambrosia
unkempt gyro
Ohhhhh
wanton valley
Hi everyone, I understand there are save file editors available. I have experienced a glitch where I cannot unlock Thanatos's favor - it is not a matter of RNG but straight-up bugged. Does anyone know if there is a way to edit the save file to unlock Than's favor? I don't want to touch anything else.
ebon ivy
@wanton valley Did you ask in #h1-tech-support?
frosty talon
https://imgur.com/thxmNNN
https://imgur.com/rND5kTz
somebody knows what to do if steam doesnt unlock a achievement? I got the pop-up alert ingame but it didnt register
unkempt gyro
What do you guys think is better to choose, Ambrosia Delight, Pom Porridge, or Refreshing Nectar
ornate summit
You could arguably edit it in with SAM since you've rightfully earned it
@unkempt gyro It's situational, really
unkempt gyro
hmm
ornate summit
Depends what you want to achieve with your boons
unkempt gyro
Rarity would typically be better than just 1 additional level wouldn't it?
I think most of my boons are currently rare
ornate summit
Upgrade two boons' rarities, level up four eligible boons, or have your next 3 boons be higher quality
How many boons are you packing and how heavily do you use them
And are you aiming for any future boons in particular?
unkempt gyro
I think most of my boons are mostly on-hit type boons currently
and I have maybe around 6 boons
cloud apex
@frosty talon did you leave the room after claiming the prophecy?
Asking that because most achievements seem to register only upon changing location, sorta delayed
frosty talon
@cloud apex yes, I went to the list of prophecies
frosty talon
yes, I exited. Then I went back and did runs after that too but nothing happend
cloud apex
Ah well, sorry then, thought it might help
frosty talon
thanks, maybe the next patch will make it right
alpine fulcrum
the approval process pact doesnt mention that it always removes the best boon choice
lethal igloo
Hi, probably a silly question here, I just got a Legendary from Hermes' boons, but I was under the impression you needed another of his boons to get it, and I hadn't seen him the entire run up until that point? Is it usually just luck?
polar linden
you got the Lambent Plume on?
lethal igloo
I did, in the hopes I'd find him more (Even if that's not the case in terms of his keepsake)
polar linden
that'll do it, that counts
lethal igloo
Ahh, thank you!
dark scroll
How does flurry shot (bow hammer) work with dash attack?
umbral turtle
Is hades ever gonna have an expansion or dlc of some sort?
dark scroll
Maybe, perhaps, possibly.
No comment on it.
Keep harras... pester.... tellin.... asking them to do it.
ornate summit
How does flurry shot (bow hammer) work with dash attack?
@dark scroll As you think it would, a quick non chargeable shot after dashing
ornate summit
I might be confusing them then, sec
dark scroll
I see too many numbers flying around due to crits and such so can't tell if the damage is applied the whole time or not
ornate summit
No, it's correct
Just a faster 40 base damage shot
Instead of a normal 60dmg shot
dark scroll
Guess I'll have to test when I got less boons affecting me.
cobalt haven
oh i finally triggered the encounter with asterius for the hidden aspect!!!
void walrus
Well of Charon absolutely refuses to give me ||Flame Wheels Release,|| any special thing I need to do to get it as an option?
opaque juniper
How often do you guys "give up" a run? I do it a lot especially if it has good boons
void walrus
@dark scroll Yeah, I've been rerolling a lot. I think rng is just not on my side yet. ;v ;
How often do you guys "give up" a run? I do it a lot especially if it has good boons
@opaque juniper I almost never give up a run, it just doesn't seem worth it to me.
shy tartan
does defeating chiron in 2 consecutive battles mean in the same run? or just twice without losing
opaque juniper
@void walrus Well i started doing it after jumping to 32 skulls. Where is no way for me to succeed with a bad build
shy tartan
this is kinda time sensative. it would be great if i got an answer
gleaming granite
Two times in a row but not two times in one run
maiden urchin
Doesn’t even have to be 2 runs in a row
You just have to not lose in between winning
gleaming granite
^^^^
maiden urchin
So don’t fight CP2FO2 Charon boonless in tartarus
shy tartan
thanks fellas
brisk trail
You can't steal twice in the same run also
sturdy phoenix
Soo still no chance of a console version...?
astral swift
#hades-faq has your answer
dark scroll
I got it on console. ;p
rancid ember
Man, is it just me or is Zeus' Special boon really really good for Coronacht's special? It also helps a lot that I got the Hammer for getting +4 shots on the special (which seems a little like it narrows the special's range too?)
I wonder what'd happen if I could get Charged Volley (I think that's the name) too...
warm acorn
cant get over how good the ost is
and the voice acting
and the sound effects that help distinguish each character
light valley
Heya all, I'm a player with near a 100 hours in the game on PC and thinking I'm gonna grab it on switch. Any news regarding the save transfer patch?
Ah, nevermind
I found what I was looking for in the #announcements 😄
quaint hatch
First of
Can you please spoiler tag the name?
||Zags blood is red||
||Gods have ichor||
thick gale
Oh my god, I am so sorry
quaint hatch
It's the name for the blood of gods
Which is not just a different name for blood but an entirely different substance
thick gale
Aha, I thought it was like some powerful substance, kind of like the "gifts" you can give to the cast of characters
So it is a powerful substance then I assume?
quaint hatch
They drink it like booze
Well I'd call the blood of gods powerful
The rest you'll find out by playing the game
Related to zags blood
thick gale
thank you so much for answering so fast, I really appreciate it! time to rip some a55
quaint hatch
No worries
Best of luck!
thick gale
You too RollingStone
mortal isle
Question, ||how do I unlock the final heart for Artemis, Posideon and Aphrodite?||
quaint hatch
I'll dm you a guide
mortal isle
Thank you!
glass shell
you have guides for everything huh
quaint hatch
More or less
Either own notes or copied lol
glass shell
that's impressive
quaint hatch
Eh
Just collecting cause I'm forgetful af
rancid ember
I'm over 50 runs in, I think, and yet I still have two undiscovered codex entries just above and below Numbskull and Skullomat. This bothers me
quaint hatch
Just play the game :3
rancid ember
DAMN I died during a Than encounter. I wanted to get him down in base.
I lost well over 100 HP to die there too XD
Who would have thought that elite Dracons could be so nasty
brisk trail
🇧 🇷 🇺 🇭
mortal isle
||How to trigger epilogue?||
rancid ember
?
quaint hatch
||How to trigger epilogue?||
@mortal isle also in the guide
quaint hatch
I dm'd the guide cause of Spoilers
faint flint
ah
alpine fulcrum
seems like the fourth gun aspect has a really hard time shooting projectiles out of the air
quaint hatch
Ironic for a constant laser huh?
alpine fulcrum
well, not if the idea is that you need some kind of like..physical object to actually swat the bolts or whatever and dissipate them
quaint hatch
Idk looks like it shoots concentrated lava lol
rancid ember
Oh wow what o.o
Obol trove just randomly gave me a Nectar
Do you get random additional awards beyond what's labeled from troves, sometimes?
Oh, interesting, just looked it up and apparently troves in general have a 5% chance of giving a Nectar
I'm not sure whether or not that's good enough to get you to take a Life trove when you're at or near full HP... but then again it'll probably heal the damage you take anyway, so...?
quaint hatch
Not worth it for nectar alone
agile cargo
hi what are athena and artemis’ favors
flat vapor
Athena's favor requires seeing all three of Athena's remarks after successfully clearing a run, acknowledging Zagreus' strength.
from the wiki
artemis literally just wants you to keep talking to her
quaint hatch
keen loom
Is aspect of Rama any good?
stone pebble
Minor spoilers, but, yes. Imo, if you can land your power shots with it, its really good
tepid plover
@quaint hatch ily
alpine fulcrum
i have a zeus attack boon, the fast rampup hammer and the attack speed hammer for the fourth gun aspect
and my attack still feels poopy
keen loom
I have chain shot and drunken flourish and its fun as hell
rancid ember
I really need to get used to the gun still lol. I finally got the Titan's Blood for it after like, my third time using it, first time getting Dark Thirst with it (which is why I wasn't using it!)
I feel like it'd be really super good with Zeus's attack boon
OOPS 12 lightning bolts in a row
quaint hatch
You want explosive shot/twin shot/chain shot
rancid ember
I think I got Explosive Shot this time around
quaint hatch
Talking about secret bow
quaint hatch
Yup
alpine fulcrum
ok whats weird about fourth aspect is, with the gun it feels like you're usually supposed to be constantly rotating firing the regular attack and the special, or you're doing it wrong
unless you have clusterbomb+rocket or something crazy and can mostly rely on that lol
but anyway, if you're clipping your regular attack to fire your special with fourth aspect, you're losing a lot of the damage from regular attack right?
rancid ember
Lernie was really easy with gun o.o
Not having to be in melee where he can pound the hell out of you makes a huge difference
I didn't even use a death defiance xD
stone pebble
Here's the thing, the damage ramps the longer you fire
with the 4th gun
You can put down 2-3 bombs at one with that gun and combo with them
rose nexus
||father son bonding time is just repeatedly killing eachother||
rancid ember
||It does seem to be that sort of dysfunctional relationship||
quiet gull
||father son bonding time is just repeatedly killing eachother||
@rose nexus Isnt that how everyone does it?
rose nexus
@rose nexus Isnt that how everyone does it?
@quiet gull ||most of the time the dad isnt there for them to murder so||
quaint hatch
Granted the dad Is immortal
stone pebble
Both are immortal, so..
So it isn't really killing eachother more like..
sparring
quaint hatch
Advanced sparring
rancid ember
||Hades: Go back to your room!||
||Zagreus: No, you go back to your room!||
shortly later
||Zagreus: Oh, now we're both back in our rooms.||
stone pebble
Well
Technically the underworld is Hades room
Since he's the God of the Underworld
rose nexus
the underworld is just a giant mancave
rose nexus
it too is a microwave
stone pebble
HMM
quaint hatch
So I'mma keep it like that
stone pebble
It's not a microwave, really
quaint hatch
HMM
@stone pebble no need to imitate a microwave
rose nexus
but its warm
stone pebble
I don't think its that hot
quaint hatch
Have you been to asphodel?
stone pebble
several mortals lived through the heat of asphodel
stone pebble
For example, Orpheus! When he was alive, at least
quaint hatch
Also you would also probably survive a microwave
quaint hatch
Seems like you lost an s along the way
I don't have one either
But I'll give you an L
quaint hatch
smooth criminal
stone pebble
coggy?
rose nexus
ohhhhh
carmine escarp
hello guys, I'm interested in the game but torn between getting the PC version or the switch
rose nexus
wats another word for that ?
stone pebble
"Overly Confident"
rose nexus
hello guys, I'm interested in the game but torn between getting the PC version or the switch
@carmine escarp i heard theres some frame drops on switch so id go with PC
carmine escarp
recommendations?
quaint hatch
Switch gang
But not by choice
stone pebble
Both are viable, really
quaint hatch
Once cross save hits
carmine escarp
@carmine escarp i heard theres some frame drops on switch so id go with PC
@rose nexus are they bad?
quaint hatch
Get it on both
No they aren't
Only in a specific scenario
Wouldn't have 150+ on switch if frame drops were too bad lol
carmine escarp
Will the game come to xbox/ps any time soon?
quaint hatch
No
rose nexus
No
@quaint hatch we dont know yet
quaint hatch
No
quaint hatch
Ps4=scuffed switch
rose nexus
someone hasnt played spiderman
quaint hatch
Only use mine for netflix now
quaint hatch
Played both ofc
carmine escarp
Ghost of Tsushima
quaint hatch
I don't like waiting 5 minutes till my ps4 has booted up and I'm in game
When I can just get to hades in 30 secs
quaint hatch
More like ghost of noshima
rose nexus
no ones ps4 takes 5 minutes unless its full of dust bunnies or sum
carmine escarp
the reason I wanna get it on switch is that I don't want to be bound to my desk when I play the game
rose nexus
bruh smh
carmine escarp
but at the same time, it seems like the game has a lot of good graphics and vibrant colors and switch may not do it justice
rose nexus
but at the same time, it seems like the game has a lot of good graphics and vibrant colors and switch may not do it justice
@carmine escarp id say its about the same on any console
quaint hatch
It's more about the art style then raw power
rose nexus
switch puts playtime over graphics, nintendo always has been that way
stone pebble
It's your choice, really
quaint hatch
No
rose nexus
but hades is a nicely optimized game so it should run well on any platform
carmine escarp
ok let's put it this way, will I lose the experience by playing it on a small screen?
quaint hatch
Nope
stone pebble
Not at all
quaint hatch
Played it on a train ride for 10 hours
rose nexus
ok let's put it this way, will I lose the experience by playing it on a small screen?
@carmine escarp i wouldnt think so, but since im a visual development student i like to pay attention to the detail they put into the backgrounds and stuff
quaint hatch
Aside from massive flamewheel spawns tanking the frame rate a bit it's fine
stone pebble
Speaking of flamewheels, were they voiced by a cat?
quaint hatch
And that's only on specific rooms for a very limited time
rose nexus
Speaking of flamewheels, were they voiced by a cat?
@stone pebble they big flamewheels sound like cats too
stone pebble
I feel like you wouldnt want to do ||EM4 Hades|| on a console
carmine escarp
ok guys thanks, I guess will play it in a docked mode when I get to the flamed wheel thingy lol
stone pebble
because if ||he spawns 2 doomstones, youre doomed||
quaint hatch
That won't change it
carmine escarp
ok I'm not clicking on any spoilers
stone pebble
okok
quaint hatch
But it doesn't kill your game
rose nexus
yea dont lolol
stone pebble
ok that understandablew
quaint hatch
I mostly play docked but during travel it's still hella gucci
rose nexus
i will only get a ps5 once the next kingdom hearts game comes out for it, but id love to play hades on it
carmine escarp
any hollow knight fans here?
stone pebble
YES
quaint hatch
No
rose nexus
never played it v.v
carmine escarp
how do you guys compare these two games?
quaint hatch
Derail
ornate summit
Good games, both of them, though not very comparable experiences
stone pebble
Both of the bosses are amazing
carmine escarp
I'm a big fan of hollow knight, spent more than 120h on switch
one of the reasosn I like HK is the deep lore
stone pebble
The cast system in hades seems similar with the things in hollowknight
quaint hatch
If you like "insert video game", you'll love hades
stone pebble
the keepsake system seems similar as well
ornate summit
Kind of? They're fairly different at the same time, though
ornate summit
Nope, it ignores the run ever happened
flat vapor
giving up resets your save to when you entered the courtyard
ornate summit
Keeps the seed, too
carmine escarp
Good games, both of them, though not very comparable experiences
@ornate summit I understand the game play/style is different
stone pebble
You can combo a whole ton in both games
quaint hatch
...
stone pebble
only with athena, though
quaint hatch
It's like an RPG
Since you have skills
stone pebble
I feel like you have to dodge more than deflect
ornate summit
Hollow Knight trinkets have a whole bunch of little synergies, but they're much more central to how you play than Hades' keepsakes
ornate summit
Stone, I do, and it's annoying enough for me to want to ignore it.
stone pebble
erm
quaint hatch
I'm talking to @stone pebble
stone pebble
yea
quaint hatch
Why do you relate what I'm writing to yourself a lot @ornate summit
carmine escarp
I get wehere GreatNeaon is trying to say
quaint hatch
yea
@stone pebble my point is: senseless surface level comparisons
quaint hatch
Hades is a great game
Hollow knight too (I assume)
They both have awesome lore
If you like great stories you'll love hades
stone pebble
They also go easy on you if you want them to
quaint hatch
Hades difficulty customization is brilliant imo
carmine escarp
If you like great stories you'll love hades
@quaint hatch good to hear I don't mind the game mechanics if the game has good lore and story
quaint hatch
I mean the gameplay is sick too
stone pebble
Fully voiced, which makes it incredible
quaint hatch
But since you loved the lore about hollow knight that prolly relates the most
Like over 300k voicelines
Tons of interactions and fluff
carmine escarp
Nice
stone pebble
At some point, it's a dating sim, if you like that
quaint hatch
Also look up darren Korb maybe
carmine escarp
😄
ornate summit
Just hard to tell who you're talking to sometimes, apologies
quaint hatch
Incredibly talented guy
ornate summit
And I'm really tired and should be asleep
stone pebble
No problem at all
quaint hatch
Just hard to tell who you're talking to sometimes, apologies
@ornate summit no worries
Just don't work yourself up about what I'm saying too much
In the end I'm just a random a**hole on the internet
carmine escarp
I started to be intersted in Hades after I watched Blood Of Zues on Netflix
ornate summit
It can get a bit grating sometimes, but that's not something I particularly want to delve into here
stone pebble
This game sparked my interest into mythology again
ornate summit
I think seeing Admiral Bahroo play it on Twitch was what convinced me to buy the game
Saw him do a couple of runs, piqued my interest
carmine escarp
Ok guys thanks for your input, I've already purchased the game on switch!
quaint hatch
Welcome to the club
ornate summit
Especially now that it's fully released, and on Switch
stone pebble
Because when I see a familiar name that the game mention, I'm like, "wait a minute, thats a name from mythology!"
blissful cosmos
im still playing hollow knight
quaint hatch
Now I can be more friendly :3
carmine escarp
I gtg for now will see you around soon!
quaint hatch
Cya
blissful cosmos
lol i love percy jackson sooooo
stone pebble
Enjoy the game bro
quaint hatch
Which one was that again
stone pebble
The one where he says, "Don't look back"
quaint hatch
I'm more a hymn to Zagreus guy
stone pebble
You know what the funny thing is about that one?
Zag calls it a lie, but in mythology, it's technically true
stone pebble
So.. I don't know if this is "Hades" related, but the story of Talos is really sad
quaint hatch
Just general myth ig
rigid hemlock
Zagreus was basically a proto-Dionysus
quaint hatch
Since there's only an aspect
Zagreus was basically a proto-Dionysus
@rigid hemlock speculated to be
rigid hemlock
True
quaint hatch
Why can't I write
rigid hemlock
Myths are cool
stone pebble
yes
rigid hemlock
Orpheus looks like a complete goth
stone pebble
Wasn't when he was living, at least, ||Eurydice says he had curls when they were alive||
potent portal
I finished my first escape today
stone pebble
Poggers
potent portal
wohoo
stone pebble
good job
quaint hatch
potent portal
there is no more reason to fight
quaint hatch
Why
stone pebble
OHOHOHOH
quaint hatch
Phaahahahaha
potent portal
stone pebble
You have no idea dont you
quaint hatch
Hahahahahah
stone pebble
HAHHAHFH
quaint hatch
You've only scratched the surface
stone pebble
mhm
quaint hatch
You haven't even started
stone pebble
yep
quaint hatch
Rohuelites are meant to be completed multiple times
potent portal
I played uhhh almost 30 hours before escaping the first time
quaint hatch
Still need to escape multiple times for the story
rigid hemlock
It’s the grind
stone pebble
thats perfectly normal, I think
quaint hatch
Even more for the ||epilogue||
potent portal
potent portal
Why cant we kill the fates so we can create our own fate
quaint hatch
If you stop after the first escape you missed 98% of the game
potent portal
promise?
agile swallow
Yeah one escape is nothing
stone pebble
promise
quaint hatch
You done trolling now?
potent portal
❤️ !
rigid hemlock
I found ||Patroclus in Elisyum||
stone pebble
I commend you
rigid hemlock
It was sad
quaint hatch
Not a spoiler here btw
rigid hemlock
Oh sorry
quaint hatch
No need to be
stone pebble
So like, anything post-elysium is spoilers I assume?
rigid hemlock
Ok
quaint hatch
There's nothing wrong with being careful
Post styx
#h1-for-new-players is way more strict tho
potent portal
obnoxious little guy
quaint hatch
You'll get used to it
stone pebble
Just need to learn a few patterns, then its fun, I think
potent portal
i hate that fight too
stone pebble
" Two on one? That's hardly fair! " -Zag
rigid hemlock
I beat it barely
rigid hemlock
Took one of my regens to do it
stone pebble
I feel like its pretty easy once you learn it
Theseus only has 2 attacks
Besides "Bullhorn technique"
rigid hemlock
It’s the fact the Minotaur’s chasing me down too that sucks
potent portal
One time I had the deadulus 300% special boon plus every other boon that empowers it, literally didnt have to attack that fight and was at 90% health
Also had demeter's cast that i love so much
quaint hatch
That can be said about anything lol> I feel like its pretty easy once you learn it
@stone pebble
Rush is jank
stone pebble
If you dash for long enough, he slows down
rigid hemlock
The furies I can beat without wasting a life
potent portal
ugh alecto really annoys me tho
rigid hemlock
Even the hydra
stone pebble
Alecto is the hardest fury sister
rigid hemlock
I beat her easy
quaint hatch
"annoying"
agile swallow
Tis is the easiest
rigid hemlock
She’s as blunt as I am
stone pebble
Meg is the easiest for me
potent portal
i love MEG
quaint hatch
Reading hard huh?
rigid hemlock
She cool
potent portal
stone pebble
Oh man, how much do you love meg?
rigid hemlock
I gave her some of the drinks
agile swallow
Meg is hardest for me lol
stone pebble
Would you... ||date her?||
potent portal
its so cute that zag is so small beside her
quaint hatch
I only date bouldy
potent portal
maybe for 1 week yeah
quaint hatch
Maybe artemis
stone pebble
Oh man
potent portal
or maybe becoem really good pals
stone pebble
So what if I told you
quaint hatch
Don't
quaint hatch
stone pebble
you saw nothing
quaint hatch
You gotta read the signs
rigid hemlock
When I heard Eurydice’s song I paused to listen
quaint hatch
Get it on spotify
stone pebble
"The speedrun killer"
rigid hemlock
XD
rigid hemlock
It’s bittersweet though
stone pebble
o
rigid hemlock
The song
potent portal
what does it take for a character to be in the uhh Framed wall thingy?
quaint hatch
Random
rigid hemlock
And I wanna tell Achilles I found his bae
potent portal
i wanna know a back story for it hahaha
quaint hatch
You can
potent portal
Like employee of the week or something
rigid hemlock
And Orpheus I found his
potent portal
Achilles has a bae?
rigid hemlock
Petrocolus
potent portal
2008 emo boy
yeah i forgot
i felt so bad for him the first time i met him that i gave him nectar
quaint hatch
I mean
You should give everyone
rigid hemlock
I gave him some too
potent portal
sometimes i dont the first time i meet them
quaint hatch
I hate you now
potent portal
i havent given an olympian god a nectar yet
quaint hatch
That's key
potent portal
my shades r gucci
agile swallow
Why not
potent portal
theyre mean
agile swallow
You get cool trinkets
quaint hatch
You need the trinkets for a decent run
potent portal
i only ghave 1 to uhh
rigid hemlock
But yeah, Achilles loves him and I think he feels bad he got him killed in the Trojan war
potent portal
THEM
stone pebble
The keepsakes are vital for getting boons you want
potent portal
chaos
stone pebble
Who said it was the Trojan war?
potent portal
i guess ill start giving them nectar
agile swallow
Just give everyone you can at least one nectar
potent portal
doint they have a lot of those where theyre from
agile swallow
Beyond that you can decide based on their sass I guess lol
quaint hatch
Max at least 6 gods
stone pebble
" It's a gift, not an exchange "
quaint hatch
Everyone should at least receive 1 nectar
potent portal
quaint hatch
For keepsakes
rigid hemlock
The Iliad is the story of the Trojan war and where Achilles refused to fight because the Greek leader general slighted him
stone pebble
Ohhh
agile cargo
when i first got olympian keepsakes i was like wtf who needs these when im dying from not having enough health (referring to how i thought old spiked collar was better)
me, 20 runs later: is physically unable to start a run without equipping rose
stone pebble
I only remember the trojan war because of the horse
I totally forgot that there was actually a war
I only remember honse
radiant estuary
I remember it because of that and how it basically started because Eris threw an apple at some people
rigid hemlock
And at a certain point he has Patroclus dress in his armor so they’ll think he’s him
stone pebble
No, no, I think its because Patro thought it was a good luck charm, and it'll give him strength
rigid hemlock
Because he’s still hiding in his tent and refusing to fight
radiant estuary
Then Patroclus gets killed in combat, Achilles kind of goes a bit mad in grief over that, goes out into battle, and eventually dies in the process
rigid hemlock
Yep
radiant estuary
Or at least, something along that general line
rigid hemlock
He kills the guy who killed him and does a not so nice thing to the body
potent portal
Omg is @quaint hatch 's picture that bolder that guy was pushing or am I wrong
rigid hemlock
Yep
potent portal
😂 😂 😂 😂
stone pebble
You'll learn his true name, eventually
rigid hemlock
Sisyphus
stone pebble
No, the rock
rigid hemlock
XD
potent portal
Lmaooo
quaint hatch
Omg is @quaint hatch 's picture that bolder that guy was pushing or am I wrong
@potent portal such disrespect
rigid hemlock
But yeah, Sisyphus cheated Hades and he didn’t like that
potent portal
stone pebble
Sisyphus cheated a LOT of people
quaint hatch
He cheated thanatos
rigid hemlock
Yep
quaint hatch
Not hades
stone pebble
He cheated Zeus, not Hades
quaint hatch
Hades just mad cause if death in a box he can't bring mortals
potent portal
Howd he do it
rigid hemlock
Locks
quaint hatch
He locks death in a box
agile cargo
didnt sisyphus attempt to cheat death by tying up thanatos under his bed
or depends on the version
quaint hatch
Also
potent portal
Oh oh no my poor boy Than
quaint hatch
He cheated death twice
stone pebble
It's funny how they make the boulder "a friend and a inspiration" rather than just a plain boulder
agile cargo
wow
rigid hemlock
And the two guys who tried to steal Persephone
stone pebble
He just tied up thanatos when he was trying to tie him
potent portal
rancid ember
The boulder is interesting, because it seems like Sisyphus just got so bored and lonely for so long that he like. Put psychic energy into the rock until it became a lesser pseudo-god
potent portal
Lmao
quaint hatch
Heretic
potent portal
Can he even do that
quaint hatch
Do you deny my power?
rigid hemlock
Or a symbol of how he’s chill with the punishment
stone pebble
How dare you call the boulder just a boulder
potent portal
Sorry, just a big rock then
quaint hatch
It's a rock
potent portal
rancid ember
rockin' rock
quaint hatch
No help for you
quaint hatch
Anymore
rigid hemlock
Now I’m reminded of A Bug’s Life
“I know it’s a rock! You think I don’t know a rock when I see one? I spend a lot of time around rocks!”
potent portal
^ - Sisyphus
quaint hatch
I don't know what you guys get out of insulting me
rigid hemlock
I’m sorry
stone pebble
You rock!
rigid hemlock
gives @quaint hatch a bottle of nectar
potent portal
What's he gonna do, stand up and do something
quaint hatch
I'll remember your name