ah yes, a fellow hypnos
#h1-discussion
agile cargo
alpine dust
Hermes comes in clutch
blissful cosmos
no❤️
alpine dust
Poseidon is good if you've got a lot of him/duos
He does though
If you're tryna go fast at least
blissful cosmos
im not
alpine dust
well there's why
blissful cosmos
my strat is play low and conservitive
alpine dust
ahh
alpine dust
def
blissful cosmos
its the only reason i sometimes buy him
winter pike
Dude I am laughing out loud at || EM3 || and || Theseus shooting confetti ||
agile cargo
||theseus having a G U N in this game in general is very surprising and amusing to me||
winter pike
It's so fun y
I forgot I had Mort that entire battle and wasted a death defied
Pekora
She's a vtuber
blissful cosmos
vtuber?
winter pike
Virtual YouTuber yea hold on
agile cargo
virtual youtuber
agile cargo
its like anime girls (or mostly girls idk if there are other genders of these youtubers out there) streaming
tribal glade
you dont need to type a whole new line just to add an additional "?" @blissful cosmos
tribal glade
did you know that discord grants you the ability to edit messages?
winter pike
tribal glade
just mouse-over your previously typed message and you can see the edit icon - its the pen/pencil icon
agile cargo
nice cat pfp but thats one blessed lad/lass
clever gyro
Doing 2002 per special with the gun and I 100% don’t feel awful about myself for doing it
winter pike
Omfg omfg
My heart is beating so fast
I just did
The most insane battle with || Hades || ever
He was like half health and I only had 20 life left and it was so freaking close omg
tepid plover
ezclap
agile cargo
Damn thats hardcore
tepid plover
shouldnt have said that
agile cargo
||hades|| isnt too hard once youve beaten him once but stress can affect ur performance Mightily and i get how that feels
so kudos man that was epic
tepid plover
so huge catch is the easiest legendary to get right? since the conch already is a 50%
pseudo onyx
Oh no. Ummm did anyone else lose their clears and best time and best heat with all of their weapons?? All my records are gone
OK not all of them, just my arms tab, weird
wheat kayak
If redacted is starting to feel easy time to bring it to EM4
and suffer
I love EM4 because nothing else thus far give me as much adrenaline as this one fight
tepid plover
facts
wheat kayak
and of course the music
tepid plover
the unseen ones is indeed amazing
fading gazelle
I still don't understand how in hell's name Darren was able to get 'Godspeed' on that track
tepid plover
darren is a wizard
agile saddle
is it just me or is EM ||Lernie ||harder then EM ||Thesius||?
tepid plover
bruh
is it just me or are all extreme measures easier than their normal version
except redacted
and meg
agile saddle
The platforms for ||Lernie|| are tiny and its hard to avoid all the heads and not touch the lava.
tribal glade
like, the fight is quicker but i find i do take more damage
tribal glade
yeah im still learning that i guess 😛
tepid plover
so being able to hit multiple heads with hits makes it feel easier for me
tribal glade
nah i just find it harder to dodge all the attacks
yeah thats fair
like i said, its a faster fight
but i always take an extra hit or 2 by comparison
tepid plover
im not a speedrunner
i like taking my time
like i legitimately think of it as easier not faster
agile saddle
also when he starts doing the 3 ground pounds sometimes is so hard to dodge cause the tiny platforms
tribal glade
like i legitimately think of it as easier not faster
@tepid plover huh well, fair enough then 🙂
glass shell
i find em3 pretty hard, that one dude spins me to death
robust scaffold
run away lol
first time i fought him i died cos i didnt know he could spin hahhaa
tepid plover
Well yeah asterius is harder, but the fight as a whole is easier since the champion is not constantly trying to impale you
So you can simply focus the bull
agile cargo
i cant imagine how it is for the chads who try to take down asterius and theseus at the same time bc i struggled a few times even when taking the easy way (focusing on asterius first then theseus
brisk trail
King Chads. 👑
robust scaffold
why do it the hard way when u can do it the easy way o.o
gusty swift
...Did Athena's dash get nerfed?
I'm getting hit by things I swear it deflected before.
brisk trail
I always kill Theseus first
robust scaffold
but in em3 he is really easy to kill
brisk trail
they're always really easy to kill
robust scaffold
||in his chariot he doesnt block attacks i think and u can rush him before he puts his shield up||
well its harder without em imo
though u can keep dashing behind him i guess
brisk trail
it's annoying a little chasing him, but it's not too bad either way
gusty swift
So am I crazy or what?
brisk trail
deflect is deflect, it would apply to every athena ability not just the dash
maybe your timing is off
bronze ravine
I'm having a dumb bow run where, having no good bow ability, my dash is my most powerful weapon
beat the hydra without firing a single arrow
brisk trail
I've been considering changing my dash back, I use the alternate dash now, I think it's stronger, but not 100% sure
woeful lotus
By alternate do you mean the dmg buff when you avoid hits one?
bronze ravine
now I jsut beat elysium boss without firing a single arrow
I'm doing some kind of challenge run event though I don't want to lmao
woeful lotus
Happens to evryone from time to time
bronze ravine
I'm honestly amazed I've gone this far, I have yet to win a run even once
also, I lost 2 of my dd in tartarus due to cristal boss + bomb on death debuff from chaos and meg fight
spring pawn
feel like I'm playing Persona 5 or something whenever I talk to Dusa lmfao
bronze ravine
and somehow manage to replenish all my dd in elysium
tribal glade
patroclus ❤️
woeful lotus
I had a run like that where i managed to use 7 dd cause my build was horrible but finished atleast
novel wasp
im gonna do a meme run based on that god alone
brisk trail
hrms
novel wasp
Nerf Hermes it is
spring pawn
by themself? Hermes
woeful lotus
Dont think theres one that stands out really
bronze ravine
finally died in 4th area
novel wasp
Hermes is actually pretty strong
safe crow
Does anyone know if we would be able to get the sheet music/guitar chords for the soundtrack?
novel wasp
problem is that there is no way to force spawn him
woeful lotus
Poseidon would prolly be my pick
novel wasp
so I can only use him for my run
spring pawn
Poseidon is so strong with certain weapons by himself
safe crow
I wanna learn how to play them, but can't find any on Rage of the Myrmidons, apecifically
woeful lotus
Yeah but so are all gods
novel wasp
Possy is actually strong
he was weaker in beta phase
when artemis was like
practically dunk on everyone
but now since artemis has been dunked on by the all and holy SGG nerf patches
she ded
woeful lotus
Yeh hes better now but hes still the weakest of the % boons
novel wasp
thats okay
he has more damage from the cc and knockbacks
basically makes him a housekeeping god
look at how fast he does at cleaning rooms lmao
woeful lotus
Yeah its ok weakest doesnt mean weak
I mean dio on the hidden sword aspect would prolly be the worst
fleet zephyr
Its funny building pos and getting to styx and every room dying in half a second
novel wasp
basically im making some compilations of meme run of hades
yes im gonna be an epic degenerate yootoober
lul
bronze ravine
lmao, didn't know that fishing boon were a thing
novel wasp
yes but its so rare ive never have it again after they kinda dropped the rarity of it
since people are mad that they get that instead of double wave
bronze ravine
I'd take that over other boons atm, sounds like a really nice way to farm stuff
robust scaffold
she ded
i wish artemis was stronger shes my fav god lol
used to take her keepsake but other gods r just better
jaunty river
exit wounds and poseidon aspect on sword is nice tho
scarlet elbow
I mean, crits are still REALLY good because its not an additive damage increase. The issue is with the variance, but there are some duo boons that help with it like deadly reversal and pressure point (which is a small amount admittedly)
carmine zodiac
Fishing boon is a bit of a letdown
Cause usually you decide ahead of time if its gonna be a farming run or not
robust scaffold
i dont think they are really good as u say since the damage is much lower compared to other boons
scarlet elbow
There are other ways to pump the damage though
robust scaffold
and theres no status effect so its hard to get ur priviledged status
scarlet elbow
Like chaos boons or rush delivery
And its a 300% nultiplier
And marked is her status curse
carmine zodiac
Yeah privileged status is the one main downside to crits
robust scaffold
yea
scarlet elbow
Its not as easily to apply obviously
But fam fave is usually the better option
PS is a specific use talent for when you know you want apply status curses
robust scaffold
I mean, crits are still REALLY good because its not an additive damage increase. The issue is with the variance, but there are some duo boons that help with it like deadly reversal and pressure point (which is a small amount admittedly)
btw i thought boons were multiplicative
so all boons are additive?
scarlet elbow
They are additive
carmine zodiac
Yeah
robust scaffold
oh
scarlet elbow
Almost all damage sources are additive
So crits are SUPER strong because they apply a (base) 3x multiplier
robust scaffold
i mean i still take them but not as my attack boon
pressure points + mark is nice
carmine zodiac
Depends on the weapon
robust scaffold
im using chiron, whats the best boon for it
scarlet elbow
It depends on the weapon. On an attack docused weapon, Artemis is usually the best choice
robust scaffold
arent all weapons attack focused o.o
carmine zodiac
Shield
scarlet elbow
I'd say dio or artemis personally, but I havent done a lot of runs with chiron
tribal glade
Artemis special is great on Chiron
robust scaffold
hmm
carmine zodiac
Achilles spear
scarlet elbow
Yeah
thorny crescent
scarlet elbow
Yeah anything that relies on its special or attack makes good use of artemis
carmine zodiac
Or with fists I think just adding a flat damage number is a bit better
For the main attack anyway
scarlet elbow
Unless the base damage is low
Like rail, or fists somewhat
Then you get more from Zeus... Unless its the special
Sometimes at least
carmine zodiac
All this gets even more complicated when you factor in different hammer upgrades
scarlet elbow
If it hits more than once per 0.2 seconds (iirc) zeus isnt good for it
I think only chiron hits that though
Maybe the fists special too, but Thats usually a low number of hits, unless its dementer fists
scarlet elbow
Yes
So on low base damage increases like artemis theyre ok
But on aphrodite they'll be almost unnoticable
Or, at least I think PS is additive, I dont think its multiplicative
Yeah judging by the way its worded, its additive
Sweet surrender is multiplicative iirc, but not PS
Theres a big difference between "you deal more damage" and "the enemy takes more damage" even though they sound similar according to the wiki, sweet surrender is additive too, but I'm not 100% sure thats accurate.
molten nymph
i tried jumping from h10 to h32
FO2 heroes made me 
scarlet elbow
Oof yeah
FO2 is rough. I recommend playing with FO1 until you get used to it then moving up to FO2
The third boss is especially rough
native gyro
Hi, I encounter an issue : the games does not start on the good screen (I have 2). I've played ~80 hours on the good one, but since "idontknowwhat" the games stars on my small vertical screen, which is not the main one in Windows. Did anyone here already encountered this issue, please ?
glass shell
i think you can find better help in #h1-tech-support
native gyro
Sure, sorry !
severe flare
I bought Hades OST. I listen to Primordial Chaos. I feel weird.
It's like the Cosmos a space time Odysseus.
I feel relaxed after intense combat.
Does anyone feel like me?
scarlet elbow
the sounds design overall is really good, yeah
granite ether
I would go as far as to say it's a soundscape
ie. The music alone effectively transports you somewhere
dark root
Yeah
severe flare
Me too
it's similar to killer whale's sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LVzxgWIT7I
but much much better
dark root
It feels creepy, but it also feels a bit relaxing in some way
granite ether
mmhm, that's a good way of putting it
a place full of unknowns but yet also feels inviting and relaxing all the same
Darren Korb has definitely done incredible things with the Hades ost and the primordial chaos track is a surprising standout imo
as it's incredibly sparse and simple musically, but it's done in such a way that's incredibly effective
and would be incredibly difficult to play live as any mistake would show due to everything being exposed
granite ether
yeah, I can see it
well hear it, it has a similar progression
and I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of Darren's inspiration for it
zenith lava
rapid forum
speaking of inspirations and what not
anyone knows whose idea was it to add decoration collectibles? that dude/dudette deserves a nobel prize
unborn jasper
Guys is a her a roadmap for Hades? Plans for future content n that or do we just wait? 😂
granite ether
from #hades-faq
Now that Early Access is over, what's next?
Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready
warm wind
^
dense ice
question about bounties: is it still the case that you can't win them at higher than 20 heat?
robust scaffold
i think so
dense ice
I thought so but then I was watching ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnSK7yszYb4|| and it looks like this person got titan blood at the end
robust scaffold
he probably skipped
robust scaffold
lol i only just unlocked em4
granite ether
please spoiler tag the video preview @dense ice 4th aspects are spoilers in this channel
robust scaffold
though i dont think that means ur a new player
granite ether
(it can be done by spoiler tagging the youtube link)
robust scaffold
lol
dense ice
whoops, I don't know how to do that
granite ether
putting the link in <> works as well
dense ice
is that better?
granite ether
perfect, ty ^_^
dense ice
sure thing 🙂
has anyone figured out ||how to play the lyre||?
or is that a question for #h1-story-discussion
mellow pumice
i just kept interacting and the more i did it, the better zag got
though the improvement only came between runs
@dense ice
dense ice
cool, I'm trying to do that too,thank you!
winter pike
Max out ur relationship with || Orpheus || and before every run || pluck it like 10-15 times || eventually he'll give u tips and the next time u do it you'll see progress
Takes 3 convos with him till u master it I believe and the convos are RNG but || practicing || will make it more likely/show up faster
dense ice
thank you!
winter pike
no problem :)
sudden cloak
is there a way to auto-play music from 'chamber music' after every run? Kinda to lazy to click every time on it 😛
carmine zodiac
I'm pretty sure that only around 20% of steam accounts with the game have beaten the final boss at all
robust scaffold
its 40%
carmine zodiac
Ah
mellow pumice
but you have to take in account that about 30% of players that own a steam game, and this counts for any steam game, havent even downloaded/started it
typical tutorial-beaten-achievements mostly only get 71%
robust scaffold
yea true only 70% cleared tartarus
tiny grove
40% is pretty high for full clear stats
royal flame
Has there been any official word on DLC potential for Hades ?
Steam forum peeps claimed there is but I am unable to find anything regarding it.
tiny grove
Nope. They’re resting right now
carmine ravine
Has there been any official word on DLC potential for Hades ?
@royal flame check #hades-faq
brisk trail
so i had a side quest with hades where i had to go to the administrative chamber and do a job and i did really bad what would happen if i didnt do bad?
tiny grove
There isn’t really doing bad
Game and community aren’t judgemental
Well Hades himself is
But
The reward is mostly story
And branching out your game experience
No stress required
carmine ravine
u dont understand what he saying
tiny grove
I mean
I'm jsut trying to allay his fears that
his individual performance from moment to moment
might have content/ story consequences
they don't really
woeful lotus
Except the romance segments ofc
tiny grove
ofc
obtuse hill
hey, new to the dc, do they take/is there a channel for suggestions? (not bugs
flat vapor
there was one, but it was archived when 1.0 was released
you could download the test branch version and start giving feedback there in #test-branch-discussion
obtuse hill
i see, ill keep it in mind thanks
dark root
Almost beat ||the first phase of the Hades fight||
glass shell
do you mean the redacted fight
glass shell
the true ending
woeful lotus
In the myths he turns into a bull and is eaten by titans so why not a butterfly?
tiny grove
||Bouldy|| is the final boss
carmine ravine
clearly hes on drugs
astral swift
All hail our Lord and Saviour ||Bouldy||
woeful lotus
I cant im afraid im too commited to korean shamanism
astral swift
Shame
woeful lotus
I mean you could convert and worship the heavenly god king with me? We have cookies
glass shell
i'd much rather worship the mighty ||bouldy||
woeful lotus
Oh Well cant save evryone
shrewd anchor
I worship ||bouldy|| on a daily basis
astral swift
I mean you could convert and worship the heavenly god king with me? We have cookies
Blasphemy.
robust sundial
the only king I worship is the monkey king.
shrewd anchor
Illegal @robust sundial only ||bouldy|| in these parts
brisk trail
guys i need ur help
can u skip dialogue?
like i got little siblings, and i dont want em to see aphrodite, if u know what i mean
carmine ravine
no way to skip her beauty except clicking the interact button faster
but u missed out on the story so
brisk trail
correct me if im wrong
brisk trail
but at the beginning of a run, u get a random boon from a god. if its aphrodite, can i just quickly skip her dialogue?
brisk trail
i see
glass shell
you can stop her from appearing first by using another god's keepsake
carmine ravine
keepsakes isnt a spoiler dw
tepid plover
For a split second
glass shell
oh
brisk trail
whats a keepsake
glass shell
well then
flat vapor
give nectar to people
brisk trail
i dont have hades yet btw, ima get it once i finish assassins creed 4 and 5
carmine ravine
chill out, its just a png, its not like ur siblings going to get horny or sth
brisk trail
i know
tepid plover
Btw theres nothing showing in aphrodite just fyi
brisk trail
but my fam is sensitive about these things with my younger sibs. the older ones are fine
tepid plover
K
astral swift
Are you playing on a switch?
brisk trail
Btw theres nothing showing in aphrodite just fyi
@tepid plover ur right. it just kinda suggests her breasts
Are you playing on a switch?
@astral swift yeah
Are you playing on a switch?
@astral swift u have rebel collection?
astral swift
Play in handheld mode when you see her boon pop up
carmine ravine
then the picture is even smaller
astral swift
Wot's rebel collection?
brisk trail
i only play handheld
Wot's rebel collection?
@astral swift assassins creed rebel collection
its ac4 and 5 in one game. only for switch
astral swift
Oh I...uh... I mostly play rpgs
carmine ravine
rediculous, play them on tv with aphrodite full display
astral swift
And am broke
astral swift
Xenoblade...uh...runs to switch library I think that's it... other than like 2 Final Fantasy games
brisk trail
i see
if ima do rpg, then ima go assassins creed
well thx for the answer
my hope is that my sibs see how hard it is and lose interest in it before they discover aphrodite lol
woeful lotus
Well even if they do if they are young they may not even notice shes nude
glass shell
i didnt notice the first 2 times i encountered her
astral swift
Ye I only noticed when I saw art online that her outfit is literally just her hair
I thought she was wearing like sheer fabric
sudden dock
One thing better that could've been fun is the rewards of Skelly for the heat levels. Maybe you could unlock 8, 16 and 32 bit versions of Skelly or even Zagreus.
32bit golden gemstone versions?
mellow pumice
just beat the hydra and my pierced butterfly is on 36%
damageless so far
damageless until chamber 31 😔
glass shell
can you get duo boons in the rooms with 2 gods in them
brisk trail
but ur probably right
i swear, damage control is the literal easiest condition in the ||pact||
it's free heat
tiny grove
Damage Control by itself is kinda no big deal. When it's combined with other stuff though, some weapons don't handle it well
hidden sword isn't good against DC for example
brisk trail
weapons that deal many instances of damage quickly are basically free heat with DC tho
tiny grove
For those weapons, DC can be free heat. However on high heat a lot of players avoid it due to sheer number of summons, especially with EM4
brisk trail
pog, prophecy fulfilled
tiny grove
Just saying, be mindful that the value of pact settings are dynamic
and can be combinatorial
e.g. JS and CP are generally avoided to allow Td3
quiet gull
Hello guys, will ||Aspect of Eris - 8sec after absorbing special blast, deal % more damage|| also enhance damage of already deployed Cast Crystals please?
@brisk trail Given how Achilles works I'd guess no, but don't know for sure
vague viper
can you get duo boons in the rooms with 2 gods in them
@glass shell yea, just not the duo of those 2 gods together
gusty slate
I thought you couldn't get any duos
It was mentioned somewhere in patch notes a long time ago
tiny grove
you can't get duos from trial rooms no
unless ofc I have just been the unluckiest person alive
delicate pilot
gusty slate
Zag gifts one of the Gods.... Other God; I see how it is....
alpine ice
is it just me thinks malphon's upper-dash is useless when playing with controller?
it is too hard to press a and y and the same, i never use in my runs...
quaint hatch
@alpine ice You don't have to press it at the same time
You get a dash upper as long as you're pressing y while within your dash animation
You can even double pressed why go go from dash upper into a regular upper
feral cargo
I’m completely new to ||most heats and there full effects, but I’m going for 8 heat|| and am not sure what to put on
I always do ||Blue hearts and the Harder mini bosses||
brisk trail
Go wherever it suits you, really
Though some modifiers may not go well with others
||Like putting on jury summons/calisthenics program with tight deadline||
||Blue hearts can be hard on slower weps||
quaint hatch
I’m completely new to most heats and there full effects, but I’m going for 8 heat and am not sure what to put on
@feral cargo tag please
feral cargo
What can be considered “free heat”. Because tight deadline usually gives me lots of time
I’m sorry?
quaint hatch
Jury summons is only a problem with TD on higher ||Heat||
|| on both sides
Just ||heat||
TD 1 is free
I'd argue JS1 also being free with TD1
feral cargo
Is Jury Summons plus 20% spawn?
quaint hatch
Yes
feral cargo
I also have that on
quaint hatch
I'd also argue blue hearts is p brutal with slower/"one shot" builds
feral cargo
I mainly use ||aspect of Chiron|| it was the first weapon I got used to and now I’m trying to get ||bow heat with it||
quaint hatch
Imo you should clear with every weapon up until ||20||
That's when the bounties stop
quiet gull
I find that EM1 and 2 are the easiest heat, since they concentrate the difficulty in just those two encounters
feral cargo
Yeah I definitely plan to get ||heat 20|| with all types
quiet gull
And they're not significantly harder than regular
quaint hatch
Well in general JS1, TD1 and EM 1 and two are p free
feral cargo
EM1-2 just Effect first two bosses, I thought it made all slighty harder as you increased it
quaint hatch
I'd also say even EM3 except maybe with nemesis
For me at least
Idk if I would call EM2 harder
Well aside from my dumb face cuddling in the additional lava
feral cargo
I actually hate the lave sometimes my joycon on goes errrrrrrrr like only around lava and I take like half my healthbar
quaint hatch
Yeah but that's more on us than actually boss difficulty imo
Lava is the only thing in tartarus if have problems with
feral cargo
Yeah that’s true, lava definitely hurts though
quaint hatch
That's why I refuse to turn on the trap damage modifier
feral cargo
I feel like heightened security is a beginners trap
You get to last world then get hit by a trap and it’s all over
mellow pumice
some who has beaten it. please tell me, is ||em4|| really bad? like, is it terribly difficult? in a way that someone who usually finishes with all defiances left might still lose because they dont know it yet?
quaint hatch
Good to know I'm still a beginner at 130 hours
feral cargo
Aren’t we all
quaint hatch
some who has beaten it. please tell me, is ||em4|| really bad? like, is it terribly difficult? in a way that someone who usually finishes with all defiances left might still lose because they dont know it yet?
@mellow pumice it's really hard
quiet gull
Eh, it's okay
quaint hatch
Well Frick you
quiet gull
It's harder but not run altering, I find
mellow pumice
I want my 100th clear to be the first with ||em4||
woeful lotus
its hard but its not a brick wall
quiet gull
The problem with EM4 is all the other modifiers
quiet gull
Suddenly FO becomes REAL scary
quaint hatch
I find it hard cause I have to change most of my habits in redacted fight
Like hugging him when he lazors
quiet gull
Hugging him isnt a great habit to form in the first place
mellow pumice
Im only using TD1 and MM next to it, 13 heat
mellow pumice
I just want my 99 streak to be a 100 streak, not to blueball me
But I also want it to be legendary
quaint hatch
I mean 99 streak is ez on 0 heat
pulsar timber
I had a 60+ streak that was ruined by ||EM4|| when I tried it with ||arthur sword||
feral cargo
Everything in ||0 heat ||is easy or neutral difficulty to me except world 3 boss
quiet gull
What heat?
pulsar timber
I was getting hit by everything due to the slow attack, I don't recommend
quiet gull
Gotta buffer those swings, son!
mellow pumice
I hate 4th sword too lol
quiet gull
empty swing twice, dash in for the big chonk!
pulsar timber
I love it but for bosses it's hard not getting hit
and ||true hades|| hits like a truck
mellow pumice
I want the 100th clear to be with Zagreus' Stygius against ||em4|| and that's it
but I'm scaredddd
quiet gull
Shouldnt be hard at all
mellow pumice
BRO theres like 2 people saying it hits you in the gut and one saying its ezpz
quiet gull
EM4 really isnt that bad
pulsar timber
I've only done ||EM4|| a few times, with melee weapons I usually finish it on my last death defiance
quaint hatch
Personal preference
mellow pumice
how many hours do you have 4th queen
feral cargo
So far I seem to be okay at ranged weapons but terrible at close ranged weapons. I need to play more with sword and shield
quaint hatch
You'll only find out yourself
quiet gull
76
mellow pumice
😳
quaint hatch
X
pulsar timber
I find it much harder than the normal fight
quiet gull
I find it much harder than the normal fight
@pulsar timber Yeah but not so hard as to be impossible
quaint hatch
That the point
mellow pumice
i mean my last clear was literally "Perfect Clear"
quaint hatch
Well no
pulsar timber
not impossible but deffinitely a brick wall at first
mellow pumice
46% on pierced bfly
quaint hatch
But that's not the question
quiet gull
It does sometimes take me two or three DDs, but not always
pulsar timber
the new attacks will catch you off guard often
quiet gull
not impossible but deffinitely a brick wall at first
@pulsar timber I beat EM4 on my first try
quaint hatch
Cool
mellow pumice
new attacks?? but he already does 60 per hit damnit
quiet gull
So then not a brick wall at all, glad we agree
quaint hatch
I'm just saying
It's a good step harder
mellow pumice
i should probs go for a bull's heart build then or whatev its called
tons of health
quiet gull
new attacks?? but he already does 60 per hit damnit
@mellow pumice 40, I think? Or do you have some other heat active
quaint hatch
You just got it wrong lol
pulsar timber
it's a huge difference because I can confortably kill ||hades|| without dying with any weapon, but EM4 I get close runs all the time
quiet gull
Ah yes. Dont get hit with skulls on EM4 is my advice
mellow pumice
your advice is "dont get hit" ok thanks ill do that /j
quiet gull
It's great advice!
mellow pumice
anyway one more question
quaint hatch
Cleared the game first try
mellow pumice
what god would be good? for stygius anyway
quaint hatch
Which aspect?
pulsar timber
watch out for the ||the spear throw|| on the 3 combo attack if you are far from him
quiet gull
Artemis on attack and dash would be good
mellow pumice
Zagreus. I want it to be epic battle deluxe mega
pulsar timber
it was getting me off guard all the time when I first fought him
mellow pumice
@pulsar timber instead of a spin, then?
quiet gull
Probably aphro on special for the damage reduction
pulsar timber
@pulsar timber instead of a spin, then?
@mellow pumice yes, if you are close he still does spin, if you are far instead he throws the spear at you doing high damage
mellow pumice
Aphro is a good idea yea
quaint hatch
Well have fun with probably one of, if not the worst, aspects in the game xD
(no worst doesn't mean bad)
mellow pumice
I know it sucks but it's for my personal satisfaction
quaint hatch
mellow pumice
You guys can see the appeal, right?
quaint hatch
Not personally no
mellow pumice
The very first weapon you started with..
quiet gull
Zag sword is perfectly fine for em4
quaint hatch
U hate vanilla stuff
mellow pumice
Finishing the goal that you intended all along
pulsar timber
I never use zagreus aspects anymore
quaint hatch
Zag sword is perfectly fine for em4
@quiet gull read the stuff in the brackets
pulsar timber
they are boring
gusty slate
Zag aspects are amusing
mellow pumice
yo what up pokeuser12
quaint hatch
I never said you can't use zag at em4
Go vanilla with shackles
It you do it
Do it properly
mellow pumice
I was gonna use Collar
But i would definitely kinda die i think
Still gonna go Tooth on last one i think
quaint hatch
||Batty||
pulsar timber
if you don't let ||minibosses|| chip away the accorn
mellow pumice
lol
quaint hatch
Either|| batty or shady||
Maybe ||antos||
scarlet elbow
||batty|| is generally the most useful, especially during bosses if you can hit more than one of the targets
quiet gull
You're gonna have to practice, aiming batty is a skill
scarlet elbow
||Shady|| is good if you need healing,, and I suspect ||morty|| can be good IF you can hit multiple targets with it, but it's harder than ||batty||.
scarlet elbow
same, that's why I said if
quaint hatch
Also it's more damage than the first two bosses cap
scarlet elbow
but it's also better vs ||hades due to his second phase I think.|| Just gotta ||wait for the laser/urn summon||
but overall, I think ||batty|| is still the best
glass shell
holy crap how many times does ||redacted|| heal
mellow pumice
lol
quaint hatch
Nornally you use batty in first phase redacted
It's the hardest
Also he moves a lot and can vanish
quiet gull
holy crap how many times does ||redacted|| heal
@glass shell ||Gotta break the glowing pots, or outdamage them||
quaint hatch
So he can just f out of your circle o death
scarlet elbow
I think that's an ||EM4|| thing, isn't it?
quaint hatch
Yes
glass shell
@scarlet elbow yes
gusty slate
scarlet elbow
OK, glad I'm not crazy. Only faced him a few times in ||EM4|| and couldn't remember if he actually healed or not
quaint hatch
gusty slate
quaint hatch
As I said an infinite amount of times
No
Set reload to L
Thank me after your first successful rail run
mellow pumice
if i remove all of a gods boons in the pool of purging and put on a keepsake of a god i didnt previously have. will i get more boons of the new one?
quaint hatch
That's not how it works
mellow pumice
cause usually when i have 4 already and pick another with their keepsake, i just get like 2 of the new one
in the whole run
gusty slate
RNG I think?
gusty slate
but you'll kick one of the other Gods out of your pool if I recall
quaint hatch
As you said "it feels like"
mellow pumice
oh really?
gusty slate
If you're at max pool yeah, 4 + Hermes
mellow pumice
like every seed has 4 gods
quiet gull
A new god kicks the first one out of rotation
@quaint hatch Isnt it a random one that gets kicked out?
mellow pumice
and i can replace one with a keepsake'd one?
gusty slate
Seed doesn't determine the 4
quaint hatch
Idk
Logic wise I'd think the first one
Well either way you can't choose which to replace
quiet gull
like every seed has 4 gods
@mellow pumice Not quite, a "seed" can have any number of gods shown, but the four you pick first are the ones added to your queue
mellow pumice
i know i know
quaint hatch
Purging a A gods boons doesn't change anything
quiet gull
Yeah, if you've picked a boon from a god, they're in your god pool, regardless of how many boons you actually have on you
quaint hatch
mellow pumice
im insanely tempted to go into secret boss fight
gusty slate
If there's a will there's a way
mellow pumice
YES WITHOUT DEFIANCE
gusty slate
2stubborn2die 
quaint hatch
pulsar timber
does forced overtime stack with the elite mobs that have speed buff?
quaint hatch
Yep
gusty slate
I run abyssal blood because I'm scared
pulsar timber
how tf do you deal with a speed buff chariot and forced overtime 2?
quiet gull
Poorly
weary otter
Is it just me or is hermes gift a little bit inconsistent
quaint hatch
Hermes gift?
weary otter
Yeah the feather
quiet gull
No? There's a literal timer you can look at
weary otter
It does??
quaint hatch
Yes
quiet gull
It gets tighter as you go on
weary otter
I never noticed one
quaint hatch
That the orange cricket that slowly ticks down
quaint hatch
I love my auto correct
weary otter
How does it look like I honestly never noticed it
quaint hatch
I need to edit 90% of the, insane amount, of stuff I write here
quiet gull
It's a small circle
quaint hatch
Because of auto correct
quiet gull
Have you considered turning it off
weary otter
Is it around Zagreus?
quiet gull
No, it's on the plume itself
quaint hatch
No I haven't
quiet gull
On the left of your screen
weary otter
Oh no wonder i never noticed it
weary otter
I dont really pay attention to that during an encounter
Thanks for clearing it up though
quiet gull
Well, if you want to use Plume, you might want to start looking at it
quiet gull
Not ignorant, confused maybe
weary otter
Yeah I usually stuck to very few things
like Skelly's tooth or the coin purse
I kinda had a hard time figuring out something with a condition
weary otter
Acorn?
weary otter
Gotcha
Naw for now I just pick up the tooth for the Theseus fight, still having trouble consistently beating him
weary otter
Yeee
weary otter
I think my weapon of choice isnt making it any easier though
I usually stick to the gauntlets
weary otter
Thats true!
quiet gull
I'd recommend SPiked Collar over tooth, generally, since the extra health really adds up with all the fountain heals you get
quaint hatch
Imo it's a crutch
quiet gull
Especially if they havent maxed out their +HP perk
quaint hatch
Rather learn how to build
Especially if they havent maxed out their +HP perk
@quiet gull in that case I can see it
quiet gull
ME is a crutch by that measure
Now you're gonna tell me Cluster Rocket is a crutch too
quaint hatch
Well If you build ME you might at least learn how to get builds done
With collar you're just encouraged to face tank
quiet gull
It's just 50 health man
quaint hatch
It's double heath at the beginning
quiet gull
Yeah, and it's a great way to increase the margin of error for new players
quaint hatch
It encourages a face tanking mentality
quiet gull
Once they're good enough they'll have tons of other keepsakes to play around with
quaint hatch
I don't know hat you're arguing about
I didn't disagree that it's no helpful as long as you don't have you're health at 100
The difference between 50 and 100 is a great deal in hades as long as you're not very high level and play high confidence
quiet gull
Facetanking doesnt work even with 100 HP man, I dont know what you're arguing against
quaint hatch
By doubling your health
You'll also naturally vain even more
It gives the feeling of "oh i can take a few it's"
Yk it doesn't mean just standing around and eating the xamage
You just care way less about taking hits because it doesn't seem as impactful
green sonnet
i'm so happy, just completed my 20th clear 🙂
scarlet elbow
congrats!
green sonnet
thanks!
I'm hunting for the last companion now lol, ||who has it?||
I have ||Fidi, Mort, Shady, and Battie||.
scarlet elbow
who do you have already @jovial slate ?
||skelly, and achilles|| is who you are missing
green sonnet
oh i have ||skelly||
brisk trail
@jovial slate yeah that last companion quest is quite long
glass shell
why did i get nectar from one of the green chests
scarlet elbow
luck/rng AFAIK
green sonnet
||How much dialogue is there before Patro gives me the secret code?||
I believe I've already met the other requirements
scarlet elbow
I think that may also be RNG, but I'm not 100% sure
green sonnet
oh
scarlet elbow
I just visited him whenever I could
tribal willow
who can i get companions from
quaint hatch
🇷 🇦 
🇩 🇴 🇲
tribal willow
and which ones are good
quaint hatch
||Sysiphus and meg||
green sonnet
||Achilles, Skelly, Meg, Than, Dusa, and Bouldy give you companions||
quaint hatch
||Skelly is the worst but also the easiest||
scarlet elbow
@tribal willow ||Skelly, Achilles, Meg, Thanatos, Dusa, Sisyphus||
quiet gull
why did i get nectar from one of the green chests
@glass shell 5% chance, wiki says
scarlet elbow
||meg is considered the "best"||
scarlet elbow
sure
tribal willow
what does that thing do
green sonnet
||"From Sisyphus and Bouldy"||
quiet gull
Ah yes, the thing
scarlet elbow
@tribal willow which thing?
tribal willow
dark foresight
quiet gull
We all know the Thing
brisk trail
good movie
green sonnet
||I use Dusa a lot because I hate Meg and Than's attacks.||
||If you miss them or boss decides to lunge, you're s0l||
quiet gull
Aim better
green sonnet
I do
scarlet elbow
^ sadly
green sonnet
boss just always likes to jump
quaint hatch
More golden laurels
scarlet elbow
gotta use them right when they start an attack that locks them in place
green sonnet
This is why I like ||Dusa||
quaint hatch
I.e. more run benefitting stuff
green sonnet
She serves well as a distraction
quiet gull
The only boss that "jumps" is Redacted, all the rest are free Meg hits
Except, uh, Meg of course
green sonnet
and also pwns any minions they summon
scarlet elbow
@tribal willow dark foresight gives you more run benefitting stuff at the cost of fewer meta progression items
green sonnet
||Minotaur lunges||
gusty slate
Asterius is an athlete of another class
quiet gull
||Minotaur lunges||
@green sonnet Hit them at the start of the fight, they're both stuck together even
green sonnet
||I just like charming Asterius to beat Theseus to death tbh||
quiet gull
Unless you're running FO2, and even then, you'll hit them a vast majority of the time
green sonnet
||i love how nyx was just like "ok dead guys hop in these stuffed animals i made, you're artifacts now||
austere jacinth
You blackguard!
gusty slate
I need some Hades plushies
austere jacinth
People have been making ||companion|| plushies all over the place. so cute.
green sonnet
||Mort please||
gusty slate
You misunderstand, I need Hades plushies
austere jacinth
I'd love ||the Good Shade's banner|| as a scarf
brisk trail
Is there a way to disable screen effects, and/or to make inflicted curses more visible? Not opposed to poking around in the LUAs but since it's an accessibility issue I wonder if it's built in
glass shell
can you pom zeus' legendary
gusty slate
lol pommed Athena legendary would be...
tbh pommed legendaries would get redic
Super pinball with Pos
gusty slate
new meaning to fully loaded...
quaint hatch
Get fullier loadeder
gusty slate
10 casts later + mirage shot
lone yoke
I’ve done like 30 escape attempts and still haven’t succeeded lol
How do you get more Titan blood and stuff?
lone yoke
Mainly the third floor boss
I also got to the final boss not too long ago but died immediately
gusty slate
Yeah they're pretty mean, best bet is to get really familiar with the timing on spear throw
and dashing at the right moment
I believe one tip people say is to stay behind Asterius
glass shell
the first time you beat a boss with each weapon you get their respective rewards
after that they give you darkness
lone yoke
Yeah Ive done the hydra and furies so much at this point
glass shell
what bothers you the most about the third boss, if you don't mind me asking? @lone yoke
fiery haven
is there some place to track which bosses I killed with what weapons, or do I have to just remember?
quaint hatch
As soon as you win your first run
glass shell
try and kite ||asterius|| while dashing right before||theseus throws his spear||
quiet gull
My recommendation is take Ares, Poseidon or Athena Call and saving it for when Theseus does his thing
gusty slate
Can make the fight a 1 v 1 with occasional sniper support against you
gusty slate
hermes?
quaint hatch
Don't thing all the time xD
quaint hatch
It's better in most cases
gusty slate
Oh, double dash is good. I like green dash- used it exclusively for awhile to train my reflxes
gusty slate
green is good if you good
quaint hatch
But in general I prefer double cause I'd rather have guaranteed double I frames them the chance of dodging
I'd argue double is still better then
Also the damage ik
gusty slate
I don't i-frame through my problems... Fates take the wheel
tribal willow
priviliged status seems strong but do u ever get to use it?
quaint hatch
In most cases family favourite is better
There are some builds where ps is preferable tho
past mirage
If you have one status on attack and the other on special, that's pretty reliable. Say Doom and Hangover, or Weak and Chill.
quaint hatch
Just don't lock yourself to one option all the time
past mirage
Some combinations have good synergies and a Duo that helos.
quaint hatch
If you can apply ps on enemies before they're dead your build is too weak usually
Aside from bosses ofc
But for chaos aspect or 4th fists f.e. It's nice
astral swift
takes offence from the stands
quaint hatch
At least you draw well
zenith oxide
which decoration do you unlock for themes on your health bar and hud?
flat vapor
okay, getting a shoutout from sgg themselves is pretty fricking cool
good luck to all the hermes cup racers!
quaint hatch
||themes||
At working orders
Just keep playing the game
They'll eventually appear
zenith oxide
I bought one but nothing changed on my hud or health bar.
zenith oxide
ah which one you use?
tribal willow
i have the craziest run right now
i started with gun
got the "big blast that can hurt you" daedalus
started dealing 350 damage
got athena's thing
then demeter's made it go heroic
got it to lv.3
+186% special damage
then got +60% from chaos
+30% from the accesory i use
and it ended up dealing like 1100 damage
undone frost
yea dopping nukes is fun
i got up to 4000 damage crits on my first beating hades run
zenith oxide
😄
undone frost
things like arties crit bomb, hunters mark, crits do more damage, + the targeting system hammer as well
brisk trail
how do you get crystals for renovating
undone frost
diamonds?
undone frost
you have to beat lernie with different weapons/heats
pseudo onyx
Wait... what? That word means literally nothing in context lol
And is a part of every other SG game
undone frost
being a little mini mod is pre lame dude
being wrong as a mini mod is even worse
just look at pins
quaint hatch
Thanks for being unfriendly dude
undone frost
im not being unfriendly
quaint hatch
"no spoilers please" in the description
quaint hatch
F.e. ||Heat|| is considered a spoiler in new players channel
quaint hatch
Anything post styx basically
undone frost
jump to the post for further context if you need to
quaint hatch
No problem man
Next time can you tell me that without calling me lame or "worse than lame"?
undone frost
i mean just dont be a mini mod?
quaint hatch
Nice dude
pseudo onyx
just look at pins
@undone frost the most recent pin's reading to me is fine to say 'heat', but anything beyond that go to specific channel
pseudo onyx
Ooops
quaint hatch
@undone frost Idk how long you've been in here but it's common for players to remind others of proper tagging
pseudo onyx
I quoted you but it was directed at Rolling
undone frost
ah lol
quaint hatch
Just to keep it as friendly, for new players as possible
pseudo onyx
The pins say heat isn't a spoiler that we have to tag. That would be tedious lol
quaint hatch
I read it ik
I have no problem if someone points it out to me that I'm wrong
I'd just like it if they'd do that without being insulting
pseudo onyx
Oh, yeah, Also with you on that too lol
rose nexus
i thought i wouldve gotten tired of the soundtrack after running through the game more than 50 times but here i am listening to it outside the game and enjoying it even more xD
quaint hatch
M8 the soundtrack is killer
undone frost
yes truly i have thrown horrendous words at you and offended your pride as well as your honour i am sorry
quaint hatch
You know m8
pseudo onyx
I feel like I'm the only one that really isn't thrilled about the Hades soundtrack outside of, yknow, the Ashley Barrett solo stuff lol
tribal willow
is there a point to leveling up the keepsakes?
pseudo onyx
is there a point to leveling up the keepsakes?
@tribal willow they improve
rose nexus
and u get an achievement if u level them all up
tribal willow
i mean even the ones i dont use
cosmic stone
Achievement aswell!
rose nexus
which im trying to do bc im crazy
cosmic stone
That’s the last achievement I need
undone frost
@pseudo onyx the song bloodless is really good
cosmic stone
I only have 9 left :(
rose nexus
i wanna perfect this game so bad but i have so much work to doooo
quaint hatch
@undone frost It doesn't matter if you think what you said is terribly insulting, it is to the person it's directed at
You were clearly doing it in a mean spirited way or it appeared that way too me
pseudo onyx
Bloodless isn't too bad. But I don't like ||Orpheus's singing|| like, at allllll.
Which is sad because I adore Korb
cosmic stone
The music in this game is amazing but I prefer Bastion’s music
Might be a bold take but :/
rose nexus
||orpheus's voice is better when hes singing imo||
but maybe that sbc im used to hearing men singing in high octaves
pseudo onyx
I prefer Transistor's lol
cosmic stone
But the (spoilers) ||end credit theme in the blood|| is really good
quaint hatch
Also you being sarcastic towards me
undone frost
dude stop pinging me, if you are still having issues you can dm me
but leave it out of this chat jesus
rose nexus
wat shappening wa
cosmic stone
I have no idea
tribal willow
transistor's music is the best
rose nexus
im too lazy to scroll up and read, so how is everyone doing lmao
tribal willow
🦦
cosmic stone
I haven’t played Transistor
undone frost
nothing the conversations over
rose nexus
