well i spent 5 blood to get poseidon sword up to lvl 3 i hope this wasnt a mistake
#h1-discussion
alpine fulcrum
midnight hamlet
me every time I use blood on anything
civic tide
Hey guys. Question: I hear there are different sound cues at the end of a level. Do they have any meaning? Sometimes I hear a bell sound etc
raven lava
i think the "ding" means there's a fishing spot
shy tartan
can we all agree aegis chaos form looks dope?
civic tide
@raven lava there are multiple ding sounds ^^
raven lava
hmmst
civic tide
could also be just end of level
raven lava
i think the loot just has noise when it spawns
civic tide
that could be
alpine fulcrum
hm i assume exit wounds is one of the main boons i want to look for with poseidon sword
alpine fulcrum
what like, just cast once in between each special?
i dont think i want to do that
civic tide
@raven lava I found that one sound is triggered when lambent prune is triggered
golden raft
I get literal god killer builds and still manage to fail miserably
wheat kayak
same goes for Pierced Butterfly I think (Than's keepsake)
well I suppose you can say.. there is no escape
delicate ember
The farthest i have got is ||area 3|| is the ||1 blood for 200 gemstones trade|| worth it?
quiet gull
The farthest i have got is ||area 3|| is the ||1 blood for 200 gemstones trade|| worth it?
@delicate ember Never take this trade
wheat kayak
Eventually you'd be swimming in gemstones
wheat kayak
no
granite ether
it costs 1200 btw
manic bobcat
You missed a golden pot somewhere in Tartarus
novel wasp
did they dropped the price?
granite ether
yep
wheat kayak
SGG give a work order that gives you something when purchasing 1k+ obols items in Styx shop pls thanks
maybe I'd reconsider then
novel wasp
no
granite ether
I always miss a gold pot somewhere 
novel wasp
honestly for low heat run
you dont even need shops
or the well
its, really easy to get lots o coin if one of the 4 keepsake switch contain a hypno's purse
granite ether
if you take ||CF2|| you'll not wanna ||spend at shops anyways ||
novel wasp
and then get the get coin percent stage talent
^^^
@granite ether but chaos gate is always a good spend
wheat kayak
No seriously what good are even obols for when ||CF2|| is a thing
novel wasp
You uh dont overspend?
wheat kayak
||CF1|| already makes me 
manic bobcat
||CF2 LC4 = AP1 for shops||
wheat kayak
I turned it on like once
novel wasp
git gud and stop depend on healing items and get ||shady|| if you can lmao
wheat kayak
I'd rather go face smug Theseus in his ||bronze chariot||
novel wasp
even if im not rushing for blood, I can use my coin for kiss of styx
its literally, piling there
manic bobcat
Capitalism has infected the Underworld. You can't escape inflations, even in death.
novel wasp
it is inflation if you cant spend the coins
inflation occurs when the damn thing is everywhere so it loses value
wheat kayak
War + eternal winter + Zag trying to escape, you reckon Charon is the realm's first millionaire or billionaire by now
novel wasp
Charon is the Jeff Bezos ancestor
narrow hemlock
novel wasp
charon rawr
wheat kayak
Charon low-key kinda cute
novel wasp
you know whats cute
novel wasp
novel wasp
faceplant hermes against a windshield
manic bobcat
Not cursed
novel wasp
well you want the cursed thing?
narrow hemlock
no
novel wasp
incoming
manic bobcat
I'm diappoint
narrow hemlock
NO
manic bobcat
Are you really finished with Hades though
eager vortex
ofc not
pretty sure there's an epilogue too right
and some loose ends and subplots
manic bobcat
Can confirm
ebon basin
Hidden rail aspect russian
novel wasp
his Q reloads your weapon, while throwing the c4 attached mag
eager vortex
damn
ebon basin
Now thats efficient
covert wren
sitting down dlc when
delicate ember
holy crap ||asterius|| is hard
alpine fulcrum
Argh, my poseidon aspect/true shot build was coming along great
But I just had to grab cursed slash
delicate ember
i just discovered the swap abilty button thing in the mirror. how did i never notice that
alpine fulcrum
I had some dumb rationalization like "well if my regular attack won't be used for damage I might as well use it to keep my health up"
novel wasp
either you skip dialogue
or i dont blame you that thing is very subtle
just put in front there lol
but again you can always tryna click the title of the talent
alpine fulcrum
Ah well I didn't manage to get any +cast boons so my build wasn't that amazing
eager vortex
guys any idea how to trigger the ||epilogue?||
novel wasp
ask in this channel boy #h1-story-discussion
eager vortex
alr
delicate ember
is it just me, or is doom + shield op.
like i get doom, upgrade it as much as possible, and i just shield dash on an enemy, dash away, and because of my upgraded doom they take a lot of damage.
floral shore
EM 3 on any amount of Forced Overtime becomes a different beast altogether.
The bull is ridiculously dangerous.
ebon basin
Oh i meant to ask actually
wheat kayak
Off the top of my head there's Curse of Longing? and Merciful End
ebon basin
Do all the effects of the pact effect bosses as well?
Bonus health bonus damage
All those
native wave
yes they do
delicate ember
tisphone with a shield is easy holy crap
native wave
I generally find her to be the easiest fury
as long as you can do enough damage to quickly get her to switch stages
and she doesn't get that hair whip attack goin
hollow halo
depends on how many beyblades alecto gets out
pure barn
Out of all the Hades characters, bouldy stole my heart
ebon basin
Very intelligent that one
sage sleet
does anyone know if cross-saves will work from switch to pc? or is it pc to switch only
pure barn
I would assume it works both ways, but don't quote me on that
Maybe the wiki holds the knowledge you seek?
granite ether
no knowledge on how cross-saves will work thus far
frozen vault
henlo i have a question, what does it mean in the book when it says "Learn more by deepening your relationship with ___"
do i speak to them? what do i gotta do ;-;
crystal jackal
I dont remember the specifics but there’s going to be a specific side story related mission you gotta do before the rest of the codex reveals itself
knotty karma
Are the causes of death you can read for the Shades in the House pre-determined? Because I just got one who died of dehydration and really wants to see Aphrodite.
crystal jackal
I think they are? I remember seeing a dude like that
frozen vault
yeah ive seen both of those 🙂
oooo, thanks zephyr! also i really like your name friend
crystal jackal
Oh thank you💙 it’s actually my nickname irl
the zephyr part not including wish
May I ask what tahtee means? lmao
frozen vault
thats such a good nickname oh my GOOOSSH
tahtee burp is my nickname sort of
my real name is tahlee burke, but my friend and i speak in funny words and so he called me tahtee and it just stuck
i call him jonkeb hehe
tough silo
Hades good game
pure barn
Correct
frozen vault
amazing game, i love it for so many reasons
tough silo
Same, I just wrapped up a fat stream where I got the ending I guess? Good stuff, can't wait to play more tomorrow
pure barn
I can't wait to play more now
tough silo
I would but after working 8 hours, then streaming for 6 and a half I'm beat
Only took me ||70|| runs
granite ether
by ending do you mean the credits or ||epilogue||?
tough silo
Credits, I haven't gone up again just yet
granite ether
niceu ^_^
restive laurel
i have now fallen in love with the sword
tough silo
I think the bow might be my current fav weapon
restive laurel
the ability to gorilla my way through elysium by healing per hit gives me a satisfaction that the spear doesn't provide
tough silo
You can heal per hit with the sword? 
restive laurel
it's a hammer upgrade, in exchange for -55%? max HP and max HP gain, you heal for 2 per hit
tough silo
Ahhh ok I think I know what you're talking about
delicate ember
yay i beat ||area 3|| for the first time!
restive laurel
-60%*
tough silo
Nice! Boat
delicate ember
Ugh, my first time fighting ||hades|| and i died when he had like 10% of health left
crystal jackal
we’ve all been there bro. There’s always next time
restive laurel
ah yes
today i will ignore every single one attack from ||hades|| and simply heal and athena through it
feels good to not have to care about taking damage
tight topaz
So after my first session last night of exercise Hades where I do 5 10 second sit ups if I die and 10 push ups if I win, I'm feeling pretty good about this setup and encourage people to do their own exercise setups. Each run takes enough time for even a disabled lump like me to rest my poor lungs and it's just enough exercise to get the heart pumping. 🙂
I ended up doing 60 sit ups. I have quite the large cauldron of regret from my 20s to try and shrink. 😛
Given I'm starting WAY earlier today, I'm hoping to at least double that. Although those first 4 runs of the new save. Woof, those were tough. No down time at all 😛
rapid flax
any ideas on when cross save is coming
because i have a load of progress on my switch and i dunno if im gonna bother even downloading it on steam till i get that
vapid pollen
I keep hearing by the end of October.
zenith lava
ahem i think its sad that theres not that much rule 34 of hades or the game
ebon basin
Just wait
zenith lava
welp theres some but most of its hades
not the game the character
but isnt dusa part of mudusa?
i mean it would seem like that
restive flower
my game settings appear sometime and dissapear, anybody know if my game is corrupted ?
long oasis
Hey guys, I got a quick question about something I keep seeing in my game
restive flower
Hey guys, I got a quick question about something I keep seeing in my game
?
long oasis
I keep seeing these like... streaks of colour on things. It's a lot like artifacting, but sometimes it looks like it might just be the art style. Does anyone else see that too?
I've been seeing it more and more on things the longer I play
restive flower
can you make a screenshot?
long oasis
lone gale
long oasis
like all that stuff out in the black space of the bedroom wasn't there my first time playing through... I don't think it was, anyway
but there's stuff like that literally everywhere in my game
it's still totally playable, and only noticeable when I slow down and stop to admire the scenery. It just seems to be a lot more of it every time I notice it
obsidian cypress
Hello, I have a question.
My audio is bugged and I don't know how to fix it.
Oh, wait I'll ask in a different channel.
Will there be a fix with the volume settings?
Setting everything to max fixed the twitchy sounds.
delicate ember
YES! I BEAT ||area 3|| AND I STILL HAVE 2 ||revives|| LEFT
ebon basin
Hey uh id like to know exactly what caused me to get a bouldy boon?
Was it talking to him? If so i didnt notice
crystal jackal
Giving him some nectar
ebon basin
Ahhhhh i c
So its not pointless
Ive been giving for no reason i felt lmao well cool
sharp fossil
yeah its not pointless
sharp fossil
+2% ambiguity is pog
crystal jackal
idk if 5% is huge but its the thought that counts
ebon basin
Mine was 9%
sharp fossil
9%? op pls nerf
ebon basin
Hahaha
It think mathematically it didnt help at all tho
It was for cast
And it was ares so
9% of 30 damage
ebon basin
Bonus 2.7 damage a tick
I have and assumed it was helping one way or another
Necter is kinda pointless now so ig ik what ill use it for
sharp fossil
yeah that's pretty much my thought
crystal jackal
I still don’t have enough to buy that 100 nectar theme
ebon basin
I have all besides the gem one and key one
They're all the same price
But different resource
All add up to 5k gems tho
I did the math bec i was wondering
@brisk trail wasted time bec u have to encounter all of the gods multiple times
And only gift necter once per run
Im just saying itll take a minute
One nectar to each god*
Mhm same for me
I enjoy grinding these themes tho
Play for fun as always
I just finshed getting all duo boons
Kinda tiresome tbh bec they arent all great
I just sold the same duo 3 times my last run
Ended up with 1.1k extra gold
As in i bought all of charons styx shop
And still had way extra
crystal jackal
Man i wish i has your luck 
I got stubborn roots just to purge but I never got the choice
I even wasted a reroll for it
sharp fossil
stubborn roots is great
crystal jackal
I had 3 DD
sharp fossil
i lost 3 DDs in a single boss fight before
i've lost 4 DDs in a single boss fight before
crystal jackal
oh you must have high ||heat|| then. I’m still in the 7-10 range
delicate ember
OH COME ON I WAS ABOUT TO BEAT ||HADES|| AND THEN HE FROZE ME IN PLACE AND THE SPINNHY FIRE THING KILLED ME
ebon basin
Atm im just farming and getting all prophecies done
I fight charron every match lmao
Only put on the 5 min timmer to keep me going fast
visual remnant
is it just me or are the effects so low quality on the switch version
sharp fossil
5 min timer is 6
sharp fossil
easy stuff to forget honestly
sharp fossil
it used to mostly be fairly easy to remember, as each rank of each thing was pretty much always 1 heat
but then they did a bunch of balancing (which was a good idea) and now its confusing lol
ebon basin
Yea for sure confusing
But i can see why
Some of them are definitely worth more
Whichever one removes 1 boon choice ruins my runs
Consistently
I hate it
It should be 12 heat alone
ebon basin
As it should be
Nothing like seeing the one boon u wanna start with get crossed off
time to int
crystal jackal
I used to be one of those people who thought playing on high heats were for crazy people cuz the game was so hard. But here I am approaching 16 and turning into the thing I once feared.
Unpopular opinion I like underworld customs
ebon basin
It doesn't even effect me most times
I kinda already looked for high ratity uselsss boons and sold anyway
So its free hear for me
crystal jackal
*but I agree customs should have higher heat
austere jacinth
I still need to wash away a legendary. I only ever seem to get them when I'm past all the fountains.
ebon basin
I did alot of prophecies at ince and have 39 ambrosia
Wtf do i do with all this
Im only gonna use 2 different fables
fallen pond
Max ||companions||
ebon basin
Like i said i only use 2 of them
woven cipher
Is the prophecy|| the queen's plan|| retired or something? I have completed|| family reunion|| by never saw it.
ebon basin
Ig completionist time
glacial vine
stage 2 cleared in 6:47, let's go beat my record hehe
indigo canopy
how do you progress ||the queens plan||? i’m just hoping that something will happen after gifting enough nectar to boons
long oasis
Just lost 3 DD's and a ||Lucky Tooth|| on final boss T^T
was doing so good up until then
ebon basin
I forget about him if hes off screen
long oasis
XD
ebon basin
So then he spear throws and i remebr:')
long oasis
Just dodge spam and kick ||Asterius's|| butt 9/10 you'll dodge the spear
in my experience, anyways
ebon basin
In my experience i expect the spear too early and end up out of dashes
The timing of it is always differnt by a few seconds
long oasis
I am pretty much just always pressing my dash button unless I'm using the bow XD
ebon basin
Im trash:")
long oasis
Hahaha nah, I'm sure you're decent. I'd probably do better if I actually tried to dodge. I just rely on extremely high HP and luck 🤣
toxic mesa
@ebon basin Timing is variant based on your distance from him!
(Hrm that's not a spoiler, is it?)
ebon basin
O i think i reroll hp and avoid it 100% of the time
Maybe I'll try a sword 4 tank run
@toxic mesa u mean for the spear to travel or for him to target and throw
The travel distance is almost hitscan to me
austere jacinth
I just got two rooms in a row that were nothing but meows and butterflies. So evil.
warm gate
Is there any new info on cross-save for switch?
Or is it still "later this month"?
On topic of 3rd boss, I actually feel like EM3 is easier then base version.
Those spears are really date l fast and annoying
brisk trail
Yesss, finally Eternal Spear upgrades prophecy fulfilled.
Only Chaos rare boon prophecy left.
ebon basin
Yo theseus calling me out for hiding behind the pillars from his spears is hilarious
Love the dialogue in this game
grand jackal
He challenges Zag to a chariot race in extreme measures, and I DESPERATELY NEED IT
glacial vine
15mn11sc! 😄
grand jackal
Only Chaos rare boon prophecy left.
@brisk trail
I have one left on it and it absolutely refuses to appear
glacial vine
i've no idea how to do runs under 10mn tho haha
is there any seeds in game ? like i could use for speedruns or smth
grand jackal
is there any seeds in game ? like i could use for speedruns or smth
@glacial vine Seeds would be fantastic. A daily run mode would be neat too
glacial vine
btw any idea on how to do the Musician and Muse prophecy?
@grand jackal yeah i'd like to see seeds in future updates$
so we can speedrun the game hard
grand jackal
talking about speedruns: https://imgur.com/7ZIT1rZ
austere jacinth
He challenges Zag to a chariot race in extreme measures, and I DESPERATELY NEED IT
@grand jackal I know, right?!
strange junco
What happens when you have a god keepsake on, but you don't get a boon during a stage?
grand jackal
maybe you missed it?
strange junco
you can't miss it, it keeps popping up until you take it
i never got the option lol
grand jackal
oh wait don't get a boon
I misread
I guess it would show up eventually
Unless Hermes jumps in first
strange junco
Hermes doesn't cancel a keepsake though
wheat kayak
I think it's impossible to miss even if you deliberately avoid them on chambers with multiple exits
grand jackal
He can jump in front of keepsakes
wheat kayak
Eventually you get to a chamber with one exit and there you go
strange junco
I got 2 hermes and like 3 poms and other stuff in a stage, I got 1 challenge but it was zues and ares but I never got the aphro (the keepsake)
the entire 2nd stage
wheat kayak
Are you sure your bonus was active
strange junco
yes
wheat kayak
it would say 1 beneath your keepsake
wheat kayak
bruh
tawny haven
Is there any place you can find the art files of hades?
strange junco
Notice how the keepsake case is still open, I didn't switch keepsakes yet after clearing the stage https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369256100954112027/769906638722301973/unknown.png
cloud apex
smells like asphodel's doing
strange junco
not getting a boon lol
fallen pond
Shackle run it is
glacial vine
lmao i just cleared theseus in 30sc
tiny grove
@manic bobcat @flat vapor pulled off ME for the first time and omg
Kapow bam boom splat
Thanks for the tips
glacial vine
14:03! 😄 so close to 13mn tho 😦
grand jackal
lmao i just cleared theseus in 30sc
@glacial vine I love how good it feels to humilate the guy like that
tiny grove
guys wth only zag emoticons are on steam
gimme thanthink and bouldy
at the very least
the very least
call me crazy but I'd pay real money for them thanks
bold forum
quick question - does the cast extra damage stack?
i mean if an enemy has 3 cast crystals or whatever they are, does the extra damage count 3 times?
muted valley
no, we all wish though
bold forum
thanks
muted valley
just take stygian soul and put 4 at a time in the last boss
200% more dmg
imagine
sharp fossil
seems balanced lol
brisk trail
Nobody:
Zag's Infernal Arms: "Hey how ya doin' lil' mama let me whisper in your ear"
alpine fulcrum
the wiki feels incomplete on some things
alpine fulcrum
boss pages dont list bounties
narrow hemlock
do they need to?
bounties are prob covered on the pact page
Either way if you feel something is missing, just... edit it
alpine fulcrum
actually i was looking for the amount of darkness you get for a boss when you dont get a bounty, so not technically a bounty
thats only on the 'darkness' page
narrow hemlock
alpine fulcrum
pact of punishment page just says you can get diamonds blood and ambrosia from bosses, not which drops what
which is fine, thats not really what that page is about
distant lotus
Oh my gods
alpine fulcrum
i would edit it myself but im sleepy
narrow hemlock
if i have time later i'll look into it. like, i hang around and edit but i mostly do character/aesthetic stuff and don't pay attention to gameplay pages
distant lotus
I need an attack boon but literally no gods have offered any
inland furnace
i just got my last legendary boon done for the fates (finished duos yesterday) which. means my last boon i haven't gotten is. A Blown Kiss from Aphrodite lmao
stiff gust
How do i kill 3rd boss
dreamy agate
One way is to keep running in circles and hitting them with long range shots. Do the bull first to minimize the time Theeseus invokes the gods help
There are easier ways but this is foolproof
When attacking theeseus do it after he uses his throw attack so his back is very exposed
stiff gust
Its so hard to get behind hom
dreamy agate
Kill the bull first dont try to hit theeseus at all
The best time to attack is right after theeseus uses his ranged attack
tight topaz
Theseus is how you know the build might win.
dreamy agate
Im pretty sure you need at least 1 hermes boon. More dashes or faster spped
stiff gust
As i play spear and bow
stiff gust
I also cant unlock any varients
tight topaz
With a bow, I've gotten good results with tagging with the fan shot. Doom, rupture, jolted, drunk, any of that good stuff.
dreamy agate
Just use titan blood
tight topaz
Then it's just a matter of running like hell.
stiff gust
Ut they wont give me anymore
dreamy agate
Well yeah
tight topaz
What'd you spend your blood on so far?
dreamy agate
You can farm by ||Selling everything once you reach styx and buying from charon||
tight topaz
I do that when I can tell a run won't win.
Ooh... Yeah I made that mistake at first...
tight topaz
1000 gems to a blood
stiff gust
Well i thought id get a blood every run
tight topaz
NEWP! Sorry man. What I did with mine was I got one with every weapon and put it in the second option on each. I NEED MY ||ARTHUR||!!!
stiff gust
So if i kill the fury woth anoth weapon ill get more blood?
stiff gust
Oooo i dodnt lnow
tight topaz
No worries. That's why we're here. To help.
brisk trail
But after escaping Hell, you can win more ...
gusty slate
they'll find out more once they beat the final boss yeah
tight topaz
Walk before you can run. Focus on saving up currencies. Consult the wiki.
brisk trail
Meaning 2 Blood per weapon
novel shell
its my first time at bone hydra thingy any strats?
distant lotus
Uhh
Well each head has a different sort of attack, so learning those can be important
But also don't keep to close to them because they can all smash into the ground for a small AoE
novel shell
ok thanks
glacial vine
13:57! 😄 time to go under 13mn now hah
ruby atlas
is there a way to tell which weapons you still haven't gotten blood from megaera yet? i lost track
distant lotus
My fastest run was 18 minutes
distant lotus
Best way, until much later in the game, is just to remember sadly
That run was with Zeus shield so it wasn't really going to be that quick
glacial vine
tbh i'm using shield rn (for prophecy), i'm just using the basic attack haha
distant lotus
I like the special a lot, both types on shield
novel shell
I did it holy that was stressful
fringe forge
is there any update on cross save release?
glacial vine
for real i'm never gonna get that last daedelus upgrade for my shield 😦
gusty slate
Don't think we've gotten any updates on cross-saves @fringe forge
fringe forge
ahh thanks!
gusty slate
At least I haven't seen anything on #announcements
queen wharf
Is there any way to guarantee ||Patroclus to be alone? Like if Achilles is at the house at the beginning of a run, is Patroclus guaranteed to be alone? I just want to give him the last Ambrosia.||
zealous galleon
I recommend asking in #h1-story-discussion
queen wharf
Maybe so
mossy mauve
raw flare
I agree with that 😂
sharp fossil
turns out 40% is a lot lol
ebon basin
its fun tho i like it
sharp fossil
same
ebon basin
Makes butterflu runs way more intentse
Think im done farming i only have one prophecy left
Time to just try builds
sharp fossil
i turned it on months ago and haven’t turned it since
sharp fossil
love me some delicious being stabbed in the face intense gameplay
ebon basin
It'd be too easy if i was already accustomed to it
Makes some non threatening mobs actually kind of scary
sharp fossil
it can still be a problem sometimes even when you’re used to it honestly
particularly with the speeder BP perk lol
sharp fossil
idk how fast those elite speeder FO2 chariots go, but it’s definitely above the legal speed limit
ebon basin
Still having to pull up the journal to figure out what boons i need to get specifc boons
They already go fast enough 
Roguelite
Yup
Its a bit of saved progress
sonic ridge
It's both really
sharp fossil
yeah you start from scratch each run, but like a lot of modern roguelikes/lites there’s some meta progression/powers you can unlock that persist across all runs
indigo canopy
why wont chaos tell me about ||beowulf||? am i missing something? ive unlocked the other ||2 shield aspects|| ive played about 10 games with this dumb ||cosmic egg|| and he refuses to tell me the ||phrase||
sonic ridge
It's kinda like Rogue Legacy
glacial vine
@indigo canopy i'm having the same problem but with zeus for the rail xD
ebon basin
Its all kinda chance
And if you have any sort of quest going with a speicic character it'll lock any other progression sometimes
glacial vine
omg finally unlocked the last daedelus upgrade for the shield
gonna have to play with spear now and i'll be done
indigo canopy
my speedrun record is like 23 with bow or something lmao
glacial vine
did 13:50 with shield a few runs ago
but i can't wait to go back to fist/sword
but spear first 😦
sonic ridge
my speedrun record is 65 
glacial vine
xD
hearty bramble
just bought the game an hour ago
sonic ridge
most of which was cheesing the last 2 bosses
hearty bramble
holy crap
its freaking amazing
i was hesitant at first since my first rogue like game was dead cells
which i didnt like that much
ebon basin
Indeed it is
hearty bramble
im into the habit of spamming dash through enemies back and forth with sword
austere jacinth
I'd advise playing with all the weapons. They're all distinct, and they all have their virtues.
indigo canopy
i kinda dont like ||guan yu|| it makes u so reliant on ur hold attack
austere jacinth
Depends on what playstyle you like.
hearty bramble
alright i'll spear run
ebon basin
Itll keep it interesting
hearty bramble
oh are there only 6 weapons accessible?
austere jacinth
The Fists are my faves atm. Although I've had some really fun runs with the Rail these past couple of days
hearty bramble
i see 4 out of 6 slots
indigo canopy
@indigo canopy not if u pretend it doesnt exist
@ebon basin all the downfalls and none of the benefits?
ebon basin
@indigo canopy the special is actually pretty good
austere jacinth
There are six weapons but ||each has four forms.||
indigo canopy
the throw?
ebon basin
Decent base damage
hearty bramble
spoiler
ebon basin
Really big hit box
hearty bramble
gotcha, im havent clicked the spoiler box but im going to assume upgrades
ebon basin
Good special hamers as well
indigo canopy
i almost never use it the spear throw
inner chasm
Me neither, the throw feels a bit too weak
ebon basin
Ur playing ||gy||wrong then
inner chasm
I'd rather have the dash strikes
austere jacinth
I love the spear throw.
ebon basin
Well
Thats another good way
The triple dash strike is pretty solid
But means you're realying on getting one hammer upgrade
austere jacinth
||Achilles Spear is my fave, and the throw is kinda important there xDD||
austere jacinth
Yeah. Some weapons might not click at first, but there are a surprising amount of ways to play each one. So many boons, so many hammers, so many possibilities~
inner chasm
||Sad that i just don't enjoy the bow without Chiron||
austere jacinth
||I like Chiron... but I clicked with the bow fairly quickly, with regular Zag form shotgun special. No need for seeking fire~||
inner chasm
Power shotting just doesn't really fit me, and i can't really find Hammers for Flurry Shot ||So i just go Artemis Special/Aphro Dash with Chiron||
austere jacinth
||I don't power shot all that much. Or at least, I haven't for a while. I should try that more.||
indigo canopy
i want to see an artemis call only 63 heat clear and i want it now
opaque nexus
Almost beat the game in under 10 minutes with Achilles spear, didn’t even have that good rng
dark scroll
If I deflect dodge one of hades skulls so projectiles does he himself get exposed?
or does it apply to the skull?
sonic ridge
my first run with rail was the first time I got to the last boss, special spam op
dark scroll
Was afraid of that.
Guess we'll take deathles stand then.
Was about to to the big fight but Switch at 6%. Lets charge it up first, this might take a bit. ;p
Guess it's an excuse to make dinner first.
zinc nacelle
WTF
dark scroll
This is no dating channel. ;o
dark scroll
Ah yes the 1-2-3-4 punch guys?
indigo canopy
a couple of those guys w yellow bars and say goodbye to like 50 health
glacial vine
just got all keepsakes to lv3! 😄
the spear is actually kinda good with the auto attack daedelus upgrade tho
wide hill
Anyone else seen the power of the ||Gilgamesh|| gauntlets dash attack? I’ve found that putting doom on the attack and holding down attack and dash can basically easily get a 20 minute run, even better with merciful end
dark scroll
Which # is that?
wide hill
4
I love them, don’t even use the special really just the dash attack and the first couple of hits of the attack combo
quiet gull
I mean, any guantlet with ME will beat the game in a hurry
wide hill
True
But it’s crazy easy that you can literally just hold down two buttons and it plays the game for you, incredibly fun though
zinc nacelle
wow
i have the satyr sack in the last room
thats the first time that ever happened
how likely is that?
quiet gull
Not very likely
zinc nacelle
in like 80% of my runs it was in 2nd room
flat vapor
you're very unlikely to get it
brisk trail
I just figured out how to go autopilot with the twin fists (Gilgamesh):
1.Pick Gilgamesh
2.direct yourself in a direction
3. Hold down both the dash and attack buttons
4.profit
You will be directed towards the enemy closest, and only occasionally have to move
crude leaf
hey does anyone know when the hades patches will hit the switch? I saw there were a few patch notes but every time ive tried updating it said there was nothing to update
quiet gull
They've said that all these patches will be combined in one big patch for switch
But haven't given a date, no
ember flame
Last news was October, and the update will include cross-platform saves.
crude leaf
gotchya, i knew about the cross saves but didnt realize all the patched would be bundled together with that at once
must have missed the memo
tight topaz
I can never hear the word spear without thinking of wrestling.
I hate Michael Cole. "SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR CONNECTS!"
opaque nexus
Achilles spear is so gooooood
tight topaz
What's the gimmick?
opaque nexus
The gimmick of Achilles spear?
tight topaz
Right, the dash to. How do you use that effectively?
glacial vine
i'm using the default spear actually
opaque nexus
You can use it as a 4th dash in a way
You can also keep it just floating and escape back to it
The buff is where it gets spicy tho
It makes cast super powerful and with hammers like serrated point you can still have a strong attack-based setup
tight topaz
My favorite is still Poseidon chaos shield. I call it a naughty term I heard a wrestling announcer use once by accident because it makes me laugh.
Making enemies go AWAY! is always hilarious.
tight topaz
It's only ever room 2 when I don't want it to be.
brisk trail
I just completed the final boss almost completely one handed (I pressed the left stick on my switch 5 times)
glacial vine
i wish we could unlock an upgrade at some point which would tell us which room the satyr sack is
just for speedrun purpose u know
tight topaz
Arty boon, lol. The huntress.
novel shell
ive made it to the third boss and any strats that are recommended
quiet gull
Don't get hit
tiny grove
Poseidon shield? 
oh you mean poseidon boons on chaos shield?
Do you poseidon special? @tight topaz
raw lantern
@novel shell beat asterius first and hide behind the pillars whenever theseus is about to throw the spear
patent elbow
guys i beat the game 12 times but i still dont have any 4th aspect
i did everything the wiki says, waiting for achiles to speak to me
D:
novel shell
dang I died got the first one down though
strange junco
question about rail hidden aspect || does lucifer's ramp damage reset when you switch targets without letting go of the trigger or does it keep ramping? ||
glacial vine
killing theseus when he's still casting his 2nd phase feels good haha
for an unkown reason i skipped invincibility frames of hades 2nd phase
shy tartan
also does he get harder each time you fight him?
dark scroll
And there is even more to it then that.
No, but there is a pact of punishment that affect him too now.
shy tartan
ive fought him 4 times and won twice
quiet gull
10 times
shy tartan
||pact of punishment?||
quiet gull
But the epilogue stuff can take a loooong time
glacial vine
yh i won already 51 times and still haven't reached the true ending
dark scroll
I guess there's stages of true ending.
shy tartan
im going for ||achillies||
dark scroll
But keep playing. ;p
quiet gull
also, what bond is best to max out?
@shy tartan Maxing out bonds doesnt have any actual gameplay benefits
Just do whatever
shy tartan
i thought some do
dark scroll
Pets.
quiet gull
Well, some people give you companions, but that doesnt require maxing out the bonds
wide hill
Can you max out all bonds or do you choose a single person to max out?
brisk trail
||extreme measures Tartarus boss|| is the hardest boss 🙂 (is it an unpopular opinion ? xd)
wide hill
Okay cool, I don’t want to choose between meg and thanatos
glacial vine
13:11! The aphro/zeus duo is kinda op
dark scroll
There's a lot of OP things if you get lucky enough early. ;p
I had to do ~20 runs(when I started focussing on it) just to get the legendary Demeter boon. RNGesus is a fickle !@#$%^.
visual remnant
Theres an update?
plucky rampart
Is that a question?
visual remnant
well it shows an 23mb update but i didnt see any news, unless test branch has alot of random updates
lavish condor
Hi. Guys, if I replace my initial cast for another shot from boons, will Boilling Blood and Abyssal Blood from Mirror of Night work someway?
dark scroll
Not sure if I get it. Changing boons midruns would change mirrorstuff?
dire coyote
What's fun to use with aspect of zeus?
wheat kayak
Zeus boons on Zeus shield is actually a lot of fun
..heh
Slap Zeus special on and try for Splitting Bolt if possible, otherwise just Double Strike/High Voltage
I had one run very recently that was Zeus/Poisedon focused, got Poseidon legendary, attack and Zeus special and tier 3 passive boons and Styx chambers all get cleared in seconds each
Final boss is where Poseidon don't go so well but I have so much damage it didn't matter
cosmic ferry
Zeus shield is really fun
wheat kayak
I'd love it if the return speed is faster but I'm slowly getting used to it
I guess strategic positioning can make the slow return actually beneficial since it can deal more damage ticks on anything on its way back
Still feels weird though
queen wharf
The last thing I want to do in the game is max out all the hearts and I still can't get ||Hypnos. I've tried throwing away runs, but no new dialogue. Do I have to encounter Thanatos? ||
austere jacinth
||Yeah. Than and Hypnos have to talk a lot to progress Hypnos's favour||
queen wharf
Thanks, Stranger.
dark scroll
Don't talk to strangers.
jagged ermine
Hey fam
question
i absolutely LOVE the game, its literally so engaging, and the characters are some of the most interesting I've seen in a while
like, yall really knocked it out of the park there
just a lore question tho: where do the spouses of people who go to elysium go?
didn't my bro theseus have a wife? or was i crazy when i read his myth
dark scroll
Depends if they were good or bad themselves I suppose.
jagged ermine
or is there more on his in-game lore i havent unlocked yet
dark scroll
The family stuff the game covers is just your own. The rest the game just doens't pay attention too, not very important gamewise obviously.
lavish condor
Not sure if I get it. Changing boons midruns would change mirrorstuff?
@dark scroll I think so. I mean, would cast get stuck in monster's body even if it's not the default red one?
dark scroll
For the most part that stuff all works.
There is Ares cast which spins across the field and never gets stuck inside a monster.
lavish condor
^ that's what i meant
dark scroll
Unless the game counts it when it spins over it... but thats something a dev should say then.
I guess you could test it with carefull attacking maybe.
jagged ermine
is there a limit to how many things i can purchase from the broker?
lavish condor
Many casts seems strange for that to work. There're some bomb based, for example
I'll try it and tell you
dark scroll
Not really. You keep getting darkness and gems and you can get everything with that if you want.
In the beginning you can use some ambrosia to get some more weapon upgrades and such.
Speed stuff along if you want.
alpine fulcrum
cool...now i get Fully Loaded, after i manage to get down to 25 health on my last life
yay patroclus lol
hearty bramble
what does it mean by per rank?
austere jacinth
didn't my bro theseus have a wife? or was i crazy when i read his myth
@jagged ermine Theseus does not have the best record with women. He does eventually get a wife, Phaedra. But the woman most associated with the myth of Theseus is probably Ariadne, the daughter of King Minos and half sister to Asterius, the Minotaur. Ariadne betrays her family in order to help Theseus, with whom she falls in love. After killing the Bull, Theseus then abandons Ariadne because he can't trust a woman who'd betray her family (and also a little bit because she was willing to sacrifice all his friends), but not before he snatches up her sister, Phaedra, instead.
BUT! Ariadne gets the last laugh. See, Dionysus is like 'that's not very cash money of you'. Gets wasted with Ariadne, makes her a goddess (of Mazes) and marries her. Theseus loses a popularity contest and gets pushed off a cliff.
jagged ermine
yessss Dionysus is the bro of bros
plucky rampart
I'm doing my first eris railgun run! I got Demeter on atk and now I have Piercing fire, spread fire, and delta chamber to choose from!
What do I pick 😆
jagged ermine
I think there's a voiceline where DIonysus is like "man that theseus sucks, left a woman just like that when she needed him"
austere jacinth
There is. It made me grin.
austere jacinth
So now Ariadne gets to chill with the lord of parties forever. One of Dio's two great loves (the other was a man who died, and who Dio turned into the first grape vine).
jagged ermine
HE DIED WAITING FOR HIM IM SAD
Anyone remember the first audience shade line? I clicked that one way.
@dark scroll "Wait..do I have a fan?"
something like that
dark scroll
Oh only that? Ah well. ;p
austere jacinth
No! That's another dude, Redux. I know the one you're thinking of.
Look. Dio gets around. xDD
thorny crescent
Dionysus is such a chad
austere jacinth
Most of the gods do.
thorny crescent
Genuinely my favourite god
I love that whenever he says something a laugh track plays in the background
jagged ermine
i love his design
they REALLY made him look so good
i ALWAYS take Dionysus' and Ares' boons
always
thorny crescent
Design-wise my fav is Poseidon or Chaos
acoustic narwhal
mine would have to be chaos and aphrodite
austere jacinth
I love Dionysus. Although Hermes is my fave god in Hades. Thanatos also. I love psychopomps. I also have a bit of a soft spot for Ares, who was the subject of the first ever trial in Greek myth? Why? 'Cause he killed a man who assaulted his daughter. He was acquitted.
thorny crescent
Even tho Poseidon’s boons are ehhh
acoustic narwhal
or dionysus
thorny crescent
Who’s the worst god in your opinion?
jagged ermine
personality wise?
tawdry flower
For boons or in mythology?
jagged ermine
or boon wise
acoustic narwhal
the couple of boons i like from poseidon are the dash wave and the extra loot
thorny crescent
like yeah we all know that Demeter or Hermes or Artemis are considered the best
dark scroll
Hmm Poseidon prob.
austere jacinth
Mythologically? Athena.
thorny crescent
Boon-wise,who’s the worst
jagged ermine
Worst god personality wise is Zeus for me
pure barn
Zeus couldnt keep it in his pants
austere jacinth
Athena is a raging misogynist in most stories.
jagged ermine
hes also super mean
like all the gods are like "yo watch out around zeus, keep him in your prayers, be cool"
Athena is a misogynist?
tawdry flower
Boon wise, it depends on your playstyle and weapons
thorny crescent
Zeus couldnt keep it in his pants
@pure barn a weakness that many fictional characters possess
jagged ermine
really? I always considered her as the strong woman type
pure barn
😩
acoustic narwhal
boonwise, i’d say poseidon and hermes. they have a couple good boons but for the most part with the random generation bit when i don’t get the boon i want or need, they’d have to be in that category
tawdry flower
I personally can’t get a good Zeus build, but it’s okay/good on gun
dark scroll
Poseidon is the one least powerfull generally speaking.
jagged ermine
and i remember she blessed Medusa with the snakes so she could be protected
(to the point ancient grecian women used the symbol to find camaraderie?)
austere jacinth
Athena curses Medusa after the latter is raped because she 'defiled' Athena's temple. She then has a kid behead her so that Athena can use said head as a weapon.
tawdry flower
Poseidon I LOVE on Chiron bow
jagged ermine
Speaking of chiron bow
thorny crescent
Boon wise, it depends on your playstyle and weapons
@tawdry flower true true,but overall I’d say it’s Poseidon since his boons never really do anything except for the good dash and the occasionally useful call
jagged ermine
yall know the special for the bow? How do i get the arrows to zoom into one enemy?
austere jacinth
Athena also tells a son that killing his mother as vengeance for his father is the right thing because 'only his father is the real parent, his mother just 'carried' him'.
jagged ermine
i've seen it done, where you press q and all the arrows hone in
dark scroll
Bow aspect.
pure barn
Yikes
jagged ermine
oof
tawdry flower
Hit with attack first, then use Special. You must be using the Chiron Bow aspect
acoustic narwhal
the story for medusa could go both ways. some people look at it as a curse for letting it happen in the temple but others look at it as a gift so medusa wouldn’t get hurt anymore and be assaulted any further
jagged ermine
This is what happens when you dont have a mom
thorny crescent
I really don’t like the bow
jagged ermine
you discount moms
acoustic narwhal
regardless, she still died the way she did which sucks
dark scroll
Bow is my favorite by far. Most diverse aspects.
jagged ermine
yeah, men and women read the story differently
thorny crescent
My fav is probably the spear or the shield
austere jacinth
It's definitely a curse. Especially since Athena then orders more harm done to her through Perceus.
jagged ermine
Bow aspect.
@dark scroll which bow aspect does it?
cuz i have like 11 bloods, i could unlock it easy
thorny crescent
I have a little question,what are some actual good casts?
austere jacinth
Demeter
thorny crescent
I never really use cast and I probably should prioritise it more
acoustic narwhal
dionysus has a good cast, the frenzy thingy
i didn’t start using the cast till this morning so
dark scroll
dionysus with bow aspect can be sick.
austere jacinth
In the game though, I do like Athena and I love her design.
dark scroll
BOOM!
austere jacinth
The designs in this game are just incredible.
thorny crescent
Well you see the reason why I don’t use cast is because I never rely on it
whenever I have an option to choose
dark scroll
With artemis and chaos and hermes and good aspects casts can be the strongest thing in the entire game.
thorny crescent
I alway choose a dmg up over some cast upgrade
acoustic narwhal
yeahhh i don’t really use the cast unless i see a good cast boon
dark scroll
Cause you can get insane damage from safety.
acoustic narwhal
what are y’all’s boon go tos? (dash attacks, attack upgrade, special, etc)
austere jacinth
You can just... melt things with Demeter's beam. It's sickening.
dark scroll
Dash attack is something that is still quite iffy in the game.
thorny crescent
It’s disgusting yeah
I always just go for damage
Any damage
because let’s be honest why would you not go for damage?
untold rapids
Demeter's beams are a cool concept but they move too slowly for me most of the time
dark scroll
Requires boons, weapon stuff and then its not that easy to use in general, let alone bosses.
acoustic narwhal
WAIT HOL UP
dark scroll
There is an upgrade boon for that.
untold rapids
I prefer Ares or Dio for casts
dark scroll
And it requires some tinkering with position.
acoustic narwhal
@thorny crescent i just realized your username, i’m getting to that point (sorry, off topic, just a quick realization)
dark scroll
crosfire.
untold rapids
I've gotten that upgrade boon that makes them shoot at you before
thorny crescent
LOL
dark scroll
That one can be pretty good but hard to use.
untold rapids
and that was hilarious, but the time to throw them down and get in position was time I could be using to lay the smackdown
jagged ermine
what are y’all’s boon go tos? (dash attacks, attack upgrade, special, etc)
@acoustic narwhal For attack i LOVE Doom or Hangover
specials can be anything but doom is great
Cast can be anything too, i recently experimented with athena's and aphrodite's and loved those
I wanna use more dash types but Athena dash is king
untold rapids
and also it cluttered the screen :s
thorny crescent
I’ve gotten so close to beating the final boss
thorny crescent
So many times
untold rapids
For dash upgrades it's Athena... or Poseidon as a consolation prize
crude sorrel
https://gyazo.com/7aecc5b55bf815fcd10ec189562a4be5 what does this mean?
thorny crescent
doom builds are awesome
dark scroll
Keep playing basicly to unlock more conversations.
untold rapids
best you get for 'securing boons' is ||that reroll mirror||
thorny crescent
hangover builds are great too
crude sorrel
I just want her companion
untold rapids
you're close
dark scroll
Keep talking whenever.
crude sorrel
ah okay thx
dark scroll
Make everyone drunk.
jagged ermine
i know that Supergiant said they were only making like 10 gods or so
humble island
do critical chances stack? as in if i am using ||aspect of nemesis|| and an artemis boon that gives my attack a critical chance, do they stack?
jagged ermine
but i gotta have hera and hephasteus and mr sun
dark scroll
Artemisses friends need to be in too.
untold rapids
They stack, but I don't know if it's additive or multiplicative
humble island
hera final final boss
jagged ermine
like, exploring olympus
and talking to the gods more
learning why some of them never helped
pure barn
Man that sounds good
jagged ermine
we could meet ariadne finally omg
untold rapids
Supergiant's left themselves open to story continuations in all their games, but they've been keen on exploring new stuff so far
dark scroll
They never helped cause well funding and manpower. ;p
weary pelican
the sequel is you're an Olympian and have to escape to earth, but can't stay
austere jacinth
I saw a lovely design for Apollo on twitter. I'd love to see him in the game.
pure barn
Apollo was too busy making the soundtrack
my headcannon
jagged ermine
of course its like
I know making this is hard, and making up story ideas is the easiest part
so its not like theres a button that says "make new game"
austere jacinth
Orpheus made the soundtrack BUT he does credit Apollo for his own ability.
humble island
isnt apollo in the code somewhere
pure barn
Wait what
austere jacinth
Nah, he's mentioned by Orphy but that's it.
humble island
oh
humble island
someone said he was in code somewhere lol
no images tho
i did not get a source tho i was just like "cool"
dark scroll
Time for final boss... extreme measures... attempt two.
4 death defiances, +50% dmg from behind & armor, Rail gun aspect 4 with lvl 4 frost attack with 10 stacks clear, +50% AS, 15% range, unlimited ammo, +30% Hermes AS, some attack bonus, dash recov, athena deathdefiance thingy, dash deflect, chill+weak status.
pure barn
Very nice
dark scroll
Lets rock baby!
austere jacinth
Hades is pretty awesome for rep. I love that bi is the default, love that some of the gods have darker skin tones and I just... want more of the game. Or the game's world.
dark scroll
And demeter legendary aswell so boss only has 90% hp. ;o
pure barn
Wow
pure barn
That looks like in game art
austere jacinth
Well Artemis has a lot of moon icons, so Apollo should mirror that, no? xD
pure barn
Yeah, Apollo is the sun god afterall
austere jacinth
Well, Apollo-Helios. Both are mentioned in game.
@humble island Apparently he was considered for the game, and earlier versions do have his boon icon in the datafiles.
jagged ermine
i think helios was his ancestor, or rather, he inherited the sun from helios
or helios is the sun itself?
pure barn
Yeah he got the sun from Helios I think
untold rapids
Helios is chariot man
cloud apex
Mmm myes sunflower
stuck sundial
austere jacinth
As an aside, the man Apollo loved got killed by a frisbee.
pure barn
YEET?
austere jacinth
Hyacinth lost
jagged ermine
and he got too excited
and yeeted it right into hyacinth's temple
this is unironically what happened
austere jacinth
Or Zephyrus blew it there on purpose. Because he was jealous Hya was into Apollo and not him.
jagged ermine
(also, i love that like, out of all the gods in the old myths, Ares was the only one who never r*ped anyone. like, he's a warmonger and murderer but all his conquests were by willing people)
Yeah theres a version that zephyrus was a jelly
dark scroll
Ok uncool... 3 deaths used on first life... both mob spawns had those floating pyramid things spawning a billion adds... first one, then two... still got to 25% on last life... rip
pure barn
Except Aphrodite did cheat on Hephaestus with Ares so he is a bit of a scumbag
Not telling Hephaestus
austere jacinth
Eh, Heph put them both on display to the other gods to laugh at.
jagged ermine
true
austere jacinth
Most of the gods got around tbh.
jagged ermine
ares and aphrodite played him dirty
austere jacinth
Artemis had her nymphs.
pure barn
True