but she has no desire to use it
#h1-discussion
brisk trail
sudden dirge
Alecto runs into traps when you fight her
brisk trail
SO??? I do too XD
karmic eagle
@brisk trail ya know masochism and sadism are of the same coin if you know what I mean hahaha
sudden dirge
This was how I pulled off the first win on a blind run
brisk trail
Yes they are crow lol
karmic eagle
See a sign that she likes torture as well
austere jacinth
Still, I love Meg. I like how she and Than are hurt and pretty resentful towards Zag at the beginning of the game for pretty valid reasons and I like how those relationships evolve. ||Ex-GF Meg being impressed by Zag's growing maturity and acceptance of responsibility was a nice arc, and not one I've often seen.||
sudden dirge
Considering how varied the concept of a "relationship" can be to immortals
One has to wonder about the dynamics of an underworld torturer and a prince whose defining characteristic before this was, in his father's eyes, slacking
austere jacinth
||There are quite a few conversations with Than, Meg and others about how they do and don't want to define their relationship.||
sudden dirge
Naw I mean
They're not humans, and don't have the concerns that we do. They have no need for food or security, and are basically free to do whatever beyond what they perceive as responsibility
austere jacinth
Than and Meg are pretty damn big on responsibilities though.
sudden dirge
There's a different set of pressures involved pushing them
karmic eagle
Dusa tho is pretty hot too
austere jacinth
Dusa is also big on responsibilities.
brisk trail
I feel bad for Dusa 😦
karmic eagle
She also have hearts hovering in hear head Everytime you encounter her
austere jacinth
||Both Meg and Than are workaholics, and neither really want to flaunt their personal lives... but the gossip gets around. Zag talks to Achilles about having feelings for more than one person, and Achilles assures him that such feelings are pretty normal for gods and immortals. Both Than and Meg talk about how they have forever, and don't need to squish their whole lives into a short timeframe and rush about as if their love will one day die. ||
I don't usually feel sorry for Dusa but ||she recently got fired in my main save! And it's kinda Zag's fault...||
sudden dirge
One wonders what Hades' employees do with their pay
Considering Nectar is apparently illegal
austere jacinth
Are they paid? And there are other things to do.
sudden dirge
There are accountants and you need to pay for services
So presumably an economy exists
Which means the employed participate in that economy
austere jacinth
90% of it is Charon (and Hermes) giggling in money piles.
weary urchin
you think they use workday
sudden dirge
But we're only exposed to construction compensation and a shady trader who deals in upgrade mats
karmic eagle
Wish zag could actually order something from the lounge
weary urchin
austere jacinth
Zag doesn't want anything on offer there.
He'll go for a drink with good company though.
karmic eagle
Could be a unique system tho
sudden dirge
It wouldn't be particularly compelling
austere jacinth
I really don't think the likes of Than or Meg get paid, and I don't think they'd care about that. They can get whatever they want.
sudden dirge
"Drunk" as another contract stipulation. But you do it there instead of at the gate.
hollow lagoon
||from what i saw about EM4 and from what i heard about our doggy in the game aint it a bit weird how he seems to not be that op||
also can someone answer my question in builds and combat
austere jacinth
||Zag is a god, he's OP too. It all balances =P||
weary urchin
i wish i knew bow stuff
||how is he not op he steps on your head and deletes a DD||
hollow lagoon
||i heard from someone that if zag fought his doggy he would die in a few seconds||
hollow lagoon
||oh he does i only saw a short fight against hades em4 i thought he got hit by cerb but guess not||
sudden dirge
Pointing out that Cerberus is a watchdog who makes sure no (presmably human) being gets in or out
hollow lagoon
yes
sudden dirge
So presumably the dog has some experience dealing with cheeky humanoids
hollow lagoon
aldo aint it only in?
austere jacinth
As for jobs, Zag could make a fortune as a relationship counsellor xDD
hollow lagoon
but they cant have plot armor Xd
karmic eagle
@austere jacinth the only advice he could give is giving nectar at every possible encounter
hollow lagoon
hmmm
sudden dirge
It's Greek mythos
hollow lagoon
||is it worth to feed doggy nectar||
sudden dirge
Plot armor and contrivances are the bread and butter
karmic eagle
Everyone is worth giving nectar
hollow lagoon
why doggo he has little story or he has a meh amount i got his keep sake and i have ignored his hearts
austere jacinth
He actually does great work with encouraging ||Achilles to act, and on Orphy and Euri to communicate. He's the primary reason Persephone returns and rekindles her relationship with Hades. Aaaaand somehow he makes Theseus and Asterius's bond stronger through 'testing' it.|| xD
hollow lagoon
or i think he got little story
austere jacinth
Cerberus is a good boy who deserves treats.
brisk trail
What'd I miss?
karmic eagle
@hollow lagoon what genre?
brisk trail
I was putting my bedding back on my bed
hollow lagoon
eeeeh something like a op but stupid/funny mc
stuff to laugh and brainlessly watch like saiki
austere jacinth
There's a general discussion. And a tv-and-movies. I think anime would fit better there than in Hades.
hollow lagoon
well ima be in there for a second
remote forge
Fun etymology/mythology factoid:
The expression "to have a clue" (and the modern use of the word "clue") is directly inspired by the story of Theseus and the Minotaur.
Clue (once spelled "clew") originally meant a ball of thread.
If one had a clue, they were like Theseus and could escape a labyrinthine predicament.
austere jacinth
But not being pushed off a cliff.
remote forge
Then over a few hundred years it came to mean "hint" or such as it does today.
austere jacinth
I didn't actually know that. That's pretty cool.
remote forge
Language is weird. Ancient Greek (likely much older) story gets picked up by English speakers around a couple thousand years later, and redefines a Germanic word.
But if you go to the Well and get Ariadne's Thread you have in fact found a clue ;p
"The sense shift is originally in reference to the clew of thread given by Ariadne to Theseus to use as a guide out of the Labyrinth in Greek mythology. The purely figurative sense of "that which points the way," without regard to labyrinths, is from 1620s. As something which a bewildered person does not have, by 1948."
Ah I misspoke then. The "have a clue" form is even newer.
But still broadly correct.
neat yoke
I'm not entirely sure where this would go, it might be better directed towards staff, but is there a good place to find sheet music for Hades?
Particularly Lead guitar and Piano
remote forge
@neat yoke the sheet music for some of the songs from Bastion and Transistor is freely available on their site: https://store.supergiantgames.com/collections/all/sheet-music
But there's nothing for Hades (or Pyre) yet so unclear if that'll eventually happen.
neat yoke
Alright ty
remote forge
But there's at least some precedent of sheet getting released :).
neat yoke
I've found some good covers of it on musescore just now though so I'll try those
Ooh that's nice
Darren Korb has some incredible covers on youtube with tutorials (I think?) on there as well I was just informed
remote forge
Yeah there's at least this one I've seen: https://youtu.be/dnq8dZYH_tg
Has sheet and tablature in it too.
silk remnant
Random thought here but i really like when the ground vibrates when Nyx is being questioned about her power like she is the hecking night goddess
(Personification of night lol)
gusty slate
She strong
silk remnant
When hades and zag questioned her im like "srsly guys"
flat vapor
have fun!!!
austere jacinth
They are all gods. Nyx no less so. She should feel powerful!
abstract jackal
hey does thanatos's item's passive stay if i switch it out?
narrow hemlock
no
abstract jackal
F
narrow hemlock
lambent plume and pierced butterfly only retain their bonuses if you keep them equipped
abstract jackal
So I rly gotta be good for them to be worthwhile
narrow hemlock
yeah they're a whole run investment
silk remnant
I wish someone would give 
to zag, because I would haha
dusk night
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/606287557885689871/768292860017377310/unknown.png oh how the fates are cruel
austere jacinth
Some characters share a drink in the bar every now and then.
zenith mauve
Hey
dusk night
ive done over 300 runs now and have never had three max rarity boons before
zenith mauve
For "Denizens of the Deep", do I need to keep the fish with me
dusk night
no @zenith mauve
austere jacinth
||Than gives you his metaphorical soul. And there's all the other keepsakes and companions.||
Oh. Dio CAN give you nectar.
Through a boon, but still.
silk remnant
Oohhhh i didnt know this haha
dusk night
not enough 
forgive me for stealing your style
I'll switch it up one day
kinda diggin what Dio's puttin down right now tho
proper reef
would you guys pick hyper sprint over swift flourish on excalibur?
tepid plover
The more dio, the better the feast
dusk night
epic swift for sure man
proper reef
ah kk
ty
when would you pick hyper over swift
i mainly basic attack
and swift only sets up special
dusk night
Couldn't have put it better myself 😏 @tepid plover
proper reef
but hyper helps me avoid projectiles in hades
dusk night
altho the aura has screwed me once on the ||Charon fight||
dusk night
i like double nova plus epic swift flourish
thats the best in my experience
- Artemis Flourish = ez wins
but nothing beats Hangover damage ofc 😉
I've got lvl 3 epic Dio aid right now @tepid plover Forgot how much damage we can do when called upon
tepid plover
silk remnant
Im currently watching a playthrough of hades, while eating ice cream and being in rest because of my wisdom tooth 
storm zenith
Hey guys, I'm a bit new and found a weird bug I wanted to report. Where should I go to let SG know about that?
gusty slate
or #h1-tech-support for switch
north pier
I seriously actually have an issue where pressing F10 crashes my game
last time i tried, anyway
dusk night
mine freezes for a moment but never crashes thats kinda rough if thats the case for you baker
north pier
sec, i'll try again
made the game hang for over a minute last time i tried, just alt f4'd and also killed the report program that never opened
oh it worked this time
dusk night
@silk remnant I've been putting off getting my wisdom teeth pulled out all year, i really dont want to get it done, but i gotta and I'm dreading it something fierce 😬
granite ether
Did you try alt tabbing baker, the bug reporter sometimes likes hiding behind the game
gusty slate
I thought so
calm heart
hmm okay
gusty slate
Isn't one eye hiding behind the tip of his hat?
narrow hemlock
its hard to tell but if you fiddle with it you can see where his other eye should be https://gyazo.com/b2127b8c70c08ef54587e9fac5992358
long field
gusty slate
oh @narrow hemlock , do you have the chibi images by chance and wouldn't mind sharing?
narrow hemlock
i cant share them here
proper reef
what aspects should i be maxing out irst?
narrow hemlock
hmm probably whatever you feel most comfortable playing, if you already have everything unlocked
wouldnt wanna invest in an aspect you dont enjoy playing as much
hollow charm
If you like the shield, Aspect of Zeus can be pretty strong once you get used to it.
silk remnant
@dusk night mine is already really hurting me so i was in emergency to pull it off. The weekend is really a trial, cant eat nor sleep.
raven lava
you know that feeling when you have a legendary and you could purge it for the achievement but you kinda need it for your run?
dusk night
That's rough mate, get well soon @silk remnant 
placid spindle
I wish I knew greek so I could sing the greek shanties in AC Odyssey in Hades
narrow hemlock
@hearty sorrel ||completing the epilogue and the dialogue associated with it and at minimum 5 runs after that.|| also please spoiler that
olive iris
i thought i would stop playing after %100 achievements but this game is too good
karmic eagle
Is there a vocalized version of the song in the jukebox? Kinda was surprised hearing only the instrumentals when I bought one
brisk trail
The servant board is such a cute feature
One thing that would be super cute to see is if Keepsakes changes your appearance in some way, with the obvious being them appearing on your character
I would love to see a Zeus ring or a coin purse fanny pack
Would make me actually take certain ones just for style
I'm sure there's many reasons why they wouldn't do that but God I love small details like that
dreamy briar
Aside from Merciful End builds, I recommend:
Demeter/Dionysus for attack
Athena/Aphrodite for special
Whatever you want for casts, I personally prefer Tidal/Crush Shot though
Divine Dash
Athena's Aid
proper reef
ty
high island
Curse of Agony, Lightning Strike, or Divine Strike. Divine Strike does as much damage as Frost Strike, but Deflect is just way better.
And Drunken Strike damage is just poor on Malphon.
Heartbreak Flourish and Deadly Flourish will do the most damage.
grave lynx
Hey quick question for ||Theseus and Asterius||; they don't count as armored enemies right?
high island
Phalanx Shot is ideal for melee because you can just throw it out and dash after it to engage any enemy safely.
But I wouldn't make cast a priority, anyway.
dusk mantle
Im not able to gift Poseidon anymore? Is that a bug becomes I've completed the || epilogue of the story || ?
I've not got his || chibi potrait thing ||
grave lynx
@dusk mantle You may have hit his Favor point, check the codex for a locked heart?
dusk mantle
okay
weary urchin
@dusk mantle that happened to me too, just keep talking to him and it'll trigger
dusk mantle
I see. thanks!
weary urchin
he was the last chibi i needed
dusk mantle
I still have hermes, demeter and posiedon - have the rest.
brisk trail
You need to have cought a fish in the same run before talking to Poseidon to unlock the last
dusk mantle
ohh
brisk trail
aaand hope that he actually talks about it
weary urchin
i didnt have to do that but ive heard that from a few people so maybe give that a shot
dusk mantle
good to know!
worn umbra
narrow hemlock
hypnos, purely because it takes so long and isnt at all helped by how other dialogue chains seem to get prioritized over his
wheat kayak
I finally unlocked Spear 4 and I actually love it
Lower health isn't a problem when you have a stronger Blade Rift on command..
sudden dirge
Heat question; do I get any benefit from going overboard in terms of drops
Or do I have to do it slowly
dreamy briar
No matter how many heats you skip, the bounty limit goes up by one for every run done with the right heat
If your heat gauge fills at 15, you just have to do any heat at 15 or above to make it count
Even if you do it at 32 heat it'll just progress to 16 on the next run
sudden dirge
Slow burn it is
unreal mantle
Honestly debating getting Hades on PC aswell once crosssaves are out
vapid narwhal
welp lost my 17 clear streak in a darkness farming run
brisk trail
What sort of item is distant memory?
All the other keepsakes are pretty much self explanatory, but I can't make out what distant memory is
wheat kayak
I guess it's extra damage when running bow/shield/spear
brisk trail
No I know what it does
I mean Ares' keepsake is a blood vial, Artemis' is an arrowhead, Hypnos' is a coin purse...
What is distant memory?
brisk trail
Yeah I know that too, is it like a drum or something? What kind of item it's supposed to be? That's why I gave those examples, they're all what their name says, except distant memory that I can't quite make out
robust sundial
oh, okay. I'd say it's a drum.
vapid narwhal
robust sundial
or it's a bottle with something precious in it
looks like a tupperware
with a sun bead inside
robust sundial
maybe it's Orpheus' happiness
robust sundial
spring yarrow
i just tried 45 heats... 
Never again
spiral sandal
would it be a good strategy to give gift to the first god and die next chamber to max out hearts with olympian gods quickly?
vapid narwhal
you dont need to rush it
and you lose out potential stuff from the rest of your run
robust sundial
@spring yarrow I believe you can go to 63 ? 😛
brisk trail
Distant memory looks like a jar yeah now that I looked again, I wonder where that small bead comes from. Probably Eurydice
hollow halo
its what orpheus uses for pomade
thats what gets his hair lookin so good
its a distant memory of the time when it was fresh which is why its almost empty
none of this is confirmed but my uncle at nintendo told me
quaint wind
orpheus has early 2000s scene girl hair
hollow halo
dunno why but i see him and think david bowie
north swallow
ziggy orpheus
looks like a tupperware
@robust sundial dont lost it. a mom's wrath upon a lost tupperware is greater than the wrath of god
quaint wind
i can see the david bowie actually
hollow halo
admittedly the only picture of david bowie i can think of at any time is the one from pan’s labyrinth which has similar hair
quaint wind
oh yeah i can really see it now
orpheus is just labyrinth david bowie if he got like really depressed
mint vale
Pretty sure David Bowie wasn't in Pan's Labyrinth. Just regular Labyrinth, with little potato goblins and Ludo (bless Brian Froud). Also, I FINALLY PLAYED HADES FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IT WAS WONDERFUL!
That is all.
unreal mantle
Does anyone know is crosssaves are gonna be out in Oct still?
bright lance
so a lot of people say that ||chaos shield|| is one of the best aspects, but I tried it out (max blood) and it felt slow to have to bull rush every time to actually ||activate the 5 shield effect. I tried the zeus boon on special since that's usually one of the best options for shield, but is there a specific way to play the chaos shield? It almost felt more effective to just spam special by itself instead of pausing to bull rush between every attack which wastes more time.||
vapid narwhal
||get charge shot||
ebon basin
||I hear dionysius is actually what u wanna do, you use the extra sheilds to spread the poison to alot of mobs or to a singular boss. You'd also want another statsuf effect to proc privileged status. But i must agree its not as amazing as i anticipated||
vapid narwhal
it's just very safe
and a lot of room clear potential
and that went down a bit after the 1.0 nerf
bright lance
@ebon basin thx, ill try dio next
So far I've been feeling like Chiron is the best aspect, haven't lost a ||single run up to 12 heat so far|| because that special just has insanely high dps
ebon basin
Np im soaking up as much information as i can, i just tried ||beowolf festive fog cast build and im ngl im never going chaos again unless im forcing soemthing the casts builds u can do with beowulf i feel are gonna be busted || again im super new so im sure there's alot of builds im thinking that are already a well known thing
bright lance
oh dang, i didn't bother|| to spend blood on beowolf yet||, but now that you've said that I'll try it out tomorrow
sounds similar to the Hera Bow festive fog build, also really strong
ebon basin
Yea its the same sort of thing
bright lance
have you tried cast builds with Poseidon sword yet
I thought Artemis cast was the best one for that since the rest aren't that great when used by themselves
ebon basin
I managed to get an extra cast and 50% bonus cast damage plus 30% bonus damage from dem for not having casts,but having them loaded into the sheild means u dont have any casts
I was doing about 700 per cast
Hmmm
bright lance
oh loading counts as you don't have it? didn't know that thx for the tip
bright lance
its fun to do "normal" cast builds (as in manually shooting them yourself without loading) cause they just feel weirdly fun to not even have to use the weapon LOL
Poseidon worked really well for room clears but sucked on bosses
ebon basin
Yea that's why i dont even have his keepsake rank 2 or 3 yet
bright lance
I just did hunting blade rift today but tbh it's not that fun since you really don't do anything and just dash around, plus the danger of not getting it from the beginning and relying on RNG is sometimes annoying
ebon basin
Definitely more consistent builds
bright lance
Yeah, I think one point im gonna try a Poseidon dash only build LOL i saw someone do that on youtube
he just pommed dash to the MAX
ebon basin
Tf
The diminishing returns on upgrading it
I would never
Good content tho probably
bright lance
lool i think it was over level 20 or something insane but it was actually very, very strong with all the helper posideon boons too and the duo with zeus
lofty dragon
Get sweet nectar and 4th fist aspect as well
robust sundial
zagfist with lambent plume is whacko. that's my go-to build every time dark thirst is on Malphon's
bright lance
what are some good builds for 4th fist aspect?
lofty dragon
ME and that's it
bright lance
whats ME?
ebon basin
Havent gotten that one yet but is it that much better than demeter? I feel like demeter does way too much damage
lofty dragon
4th fist aspect is trash
ebon basin
O alr lmao
bright lance
oh interesting i haven't gotten that boon yet
yeah i tried demeter on 4th fist and Athena's call and it was basically just an attack spam build
ebon basin
Nono i meant ||demeter aspect||
bright lance
oh nvm LOL
ebon basin
Haha
lofty dragon
Dem's is way better of course
bright lance
is dem the best one? I've only tried magnetic cutter and the 4th one so far
ebon basin
Ppl seem to like zag
austere jacinth
I like all the fist aspects
ebon basin
Charge special hammer upgarde on demeter aspect is kinda nutty ngl
I have the most fun with atm
bright lance
getting 5 special hits sounds really good but waiting until you get 12 attacks seems like its better on bosses than normal rooms, is that right?
ebon basin
Yea u only use it on armored early floors
lofty dragon
Sure, fists clear rooms pretty well
bright lance
So far the highest DPS ive ever had was with Chiron bow, just eliminating boss phases with one special with an added chaos boon for dmg
Chiron bow has so many different builds with the attack/special combo its fun
ebon basin
Chiron needs both special hammer uprades for it shine
I was obsessed for a little
But now its just good to me
As in 5 damage per consecutive hit and the bonus arrows
Passing out cant keep my eyes open have a gn ppl or gm ik its kinda late
bright lance
cya
I usually get at least one of the two, but its still pretty strong without
This one time I got a legendary and 2 duos with chiron (black out from Dio, Ice Wine duo, Low tolerance duo) and the damage was amazing
fallen pond
4th fist aspect is trash
@lofty dragon
That's just objectively wrong
Baeblade fists is based
lofty dragon
you can use the extra dashes for some dash builds that are gimmicky at best, maim and the moveset is borderline unusable, just because you can pull off some weird stuff does not make them good compared to most other options
fallen flare
Hello everyone, I'm from France and just discovered this Discord. Love the game (my GOTY) 🙂
fallen pond
25% extra global damage debuff sure is trash
Build for attack/dash strike/hangover/merciful end and just shred everything
Plenty of strong builds with gorgonzola mittens
lofty dragon
Good luck applying that consistently without getting hit thanks to the huge recovery which is pretty convenient for the enemy since you just gave them a damage buff
It's not global, you have to apply it with a terrible move
fallen pond
The debuff is global = applies to all damage taken no matter what source
I've had zero issues with them
lofty dragon
Good for you i guess
fallen pond
I'm awful with the rail, doesn't make the rail trash weapon
shell lava
i suck at everyone weapon besides aegis xd i can go till dae final boss on aegis and the rest i cant even kill meg
just lost to meg and she laughed feels bad man
karmic eagle
The fist is more my thing. Sure I suck in the first few runs doing it but now I've found pleasure in one on one combat.
shell lava
hmm ill try the railgun then
any noob friendly build for it?
okay okay so uh whats the best boon for dae special
karmic eagle
@shell lava I use thunder baby kills the mob fast as heck though you might wanna switch on bosses
austere jacinth
The Rail is great with Support Fire ❤️
shell lava
okay i keep hearing support fire thingey what is it?
vapid narwhal
5 spread rocket with doom/hangover/weak/lightning
or crit
anything works with it really
austere jacinth
Support Fire is an Artemis boon where every attack fires a seeking arrow.
And since the gun attacks so fast...
shell lava
hmm so i start with the specials boon or artemis boon
austere jacinth
Depends on what kinda build you wanna go for. Try things!
karmic eagle
Made a athermis and Aphrodite corronact build with it. Using the hammer wherin you lose your power shot but shoot really fast. I call it the Hunter's Cupid. Really damn powerful
I get support fire anytime cuz it looks epic
austere jacinth
I wouldn't get it for a Special Rail build. It'd be too slow.
shell lava
i actually got 5 bomb spread then i immediatly died to murder lady with 2 lives
robust sundial
last room he just handed me a boon without speaking, the ruffian !
mossy grove
That isn’t how unlocking his heart works
robust sundial
according to wiki it is
mossy grove
||during your current run before you get a poseiden boon catch a fish and he might talk about it and his heart unlocks||
robust sundial
I did just that, figure it's the RNG again.
mossy grove
Also dialogue from gods only happens once per god per run
granite ether
Another thing to keep in mind. The wiki isn't always up to date despite the best efforts of those working on it
robust sundial
ah, so maybe it's because the first boon of the run was from Poseidon... so you're saying I should avoid him like the plague until I have a fish in my inventory.
will try that next time I die.
mossy grove
Maxing out all keepsakes is a pain
cloud apex
For some reason, ||I felt like the prophecy where you need to defeat EM3 Theseus is the key to that||. I still do not have the bond unlocked but maybe it's just a few dialogues away
robust sundial
I did that 4 runs ago 😛
mossy grove
I’ve destroyed him with EM3 on way too many times
robust sundial
while we're on said topic, am I alone in thinking EM2 is just as easy as without ?
mossy grove
It’s a little harder if lernie decides to move
austere jacinth
Ha, it's harder for me. I always end up in lava!
robust sundial
dash in, dash out, lightning in, foes out !
harsh quail
I've done everything except farm Darkness for the || titles || and I'm not even halfway done. Ugh.
Halfway down the list, but that's only a fraction of the darkness you need since each one needs more than the last
misty mica
the furthest I've ever gotten is with fists of malphon, and it was only because athena's deflect dash saved me so many times
harsh quail
Love this game to death though. Thinking of starting a new file just to hear all the dialogue again.
Over 200 hours since I bought it on 9/25
Dude don't skip. It's amazing.
austere jacinth
I could never skip.
harsh quail
Take this from someone who did all the bounties and then heat 32 as fast as possible.
The only dialogue I skip is from repeats when picking up boons
If anything, there are some memes/jokes that are top tier
Well, to each his own. 🤷♂️
austere jacinth
I'm playing Hades mostly for the story. It's even well wound into the gameplay.
Story and characters|
I mean, the gameplay is fun and it's made 'failure' feel completely different, but the story and characters are just awesome.
harsh quail
That and the thicc men in this game.
karmic eagle
Keep giving those nectar in exchange for brief dialogue. I always have fun doing it
austere jacinth
Zagreus is also a really, really refreshing protagonist. He's a badass god, but he's not some gruff or gritty jerk. He's respectful and openly caring towards those he loves, and those who care about him.
harsh quail
Just a cautionary reminder to stay spoiler free
karmic eagle
I like they flesh out the Greek mythology with a modern twist. Most of the time they are plain as hell in most mediums with barely any personality.
austere jacinth
A lot of modern adaptations twist them beyond recognisability.
restive osprey
hey guys where do I write about a bug? (I guess that was a bug, dunno, anyone else got Theseus just stuck in a column when on his chariot? not moving, making their fight like super easy) I have some screenshots also, if needed
high island
F10 for bug reports.
restive osprey
thanks
austere jacinth
There's a Taking of Persephone adaptation I particularly hate that makes all the gods and important figures around that central pair into little beyond their divine domains, and clearly doesn't care for any Greek myths beyond the one it's 'fixing'.
Thankfully, Hades seems to really have a love for the myths its adapting and so the changes and modernisation feels more considered.
high island
And yeah, that happens sometimes.
restive osprey
ah. okay, guess it's not needed then
karmic eagle
Hey it's easier to kill can't complain with that hahaha
fresh magnet
does anything happen if you|| gift bouldy? i've been treating him a lot waiting for some kind of easter egg ||
karmic eagle
I've been giving nectar to everyone when I have the chance. Bound to happen something eventually
fallen pond
|| he gives you a random weak buff||
fallen pond
Cause I check my boons from time to time
fresh magnet
i should do that
half marlin
I don't really know if this is the appropriate place to put this but I just want to say if any SG folks are reading, this game is incredible. When it came out in Early Access I wasn't sure if it would be for me but I decided to give it a shot at 1.0 and I'm soooooooo glad I did. Loved Pyre but this is another level. Easily my GOTY and one of my favorite rogue-likes of all time. ❤️
robust sundial
Oh gosh, just forged a bond with Hypnos, and he's so cute about it... ||Have you tried... being my best friend ?||
austere jacinth
I need it. It's one of my last bonds.
Hypnos is kind of adorable. And I want his duvet-cape so bad.
He also seems to be the most requested option for an additional romance. xDD
swift chasm
Anyone thought how cool it might be if one of the infernal arms you had was Daedalus' hammer? Or some aspect of it? Heavy attacks with a large AoE slam? Figured it would make a neat discussion :3
sharp fossil
its always kinda bugged me that there aren't any hammers/axes in this game
wheat kayak
Does ||Arthur|| count
wheat kayak
Sword with some hammers can do that, sort of
sharp fossil
glad its there, but i still kinda want more lol
austere jacinth
||Arthur is indeed a very BIG CHOP kinda weapon|| I wouldn't say no to a Hammer. You could have Zag, Daedalus and Hephaestus as the Greek aspects.
swift chasm
I'd just like a weapon that was dedicated to just Heavy Attacks with MAYBE a hidden aspect that is a lighter hammer
austere jacinth
Then maybe Thor for the Hidden?
flat vapor
the only axe you're gonna get is when asterius swings in your face
swift chasm
and that's a hefty swing
austere jacinth
Spin to win
wheat kayak
Also ||Hades|| if you want all the spins
sharp fossil
asterius can hit me in the face any day, but we both know he likes it best when the fight is fair
which means great big axe for me too
wheat kayak
||Achilles|| seems to be the most popular spear but I love ||Hades||
sharp fossil
hades is the most popular spear
wheat kayak
..huh
austere jacinth
It's a spear. Although all of them can be wizard staves with Zeus's help.
flat vapor
it's a very ornate wizard staff
wheat kayak
Very pointy wizard staff
flat vapor
achilles, i might not like playing you, but you have one of the best weapon designs in the game
austere jacinth
I think it's my fave spear aspect, actually.
wheat kayak
I should try cast builds with it then
wheat kayak
Also for the record is ||Heat, Pact, Aspects etc|| need to be spoiler-d in this channel
austere jacinth
Also, I love Achilles as a character in Hades
sharp fossil
i mean, you're not wrong that is the rule
fallen crow
hello, i got the game the other day, will i be able to go into hades chambers?
sharp fossil
guess i didn't think about how that extends to aspects
wheat kayak
Same I also love Achilles, in any other medium an elderly wise mentor is nothing new but Achilles' own mythological history shines a new light on him
sharp fossil
hello, i got the game the other day, will i be able to go into hades chambers?
@fallen crow ||yes, eventually. post ending content, tho||
wheat kayak
On top of him being voice acted wonderfully
fallen crow
Is it endgame content?
sharp fossil
yeah
fallen crow
cool what do you do?
sharp fossil
beat the game and epilogue
wheat kayak
Story important things
opal turret
Hello, is there any indication that Hades will be supported by cloud gaming in the future? Specifically GeForce NOW?
austere jacinth
I've not heard anything.
mellow plume
does anyone have an idea of the probability of ||finding the satyr sack in the 5th tunnel? my friend and I have only had it happen 4 or 5 times in ~200 runs, which seems low||
fallen pond
70% for me
mellow plume
dang, interesting. I guess we're just lucky/unlucky
half marlin
@mellow plume personally I've never seen it in probably 40-50 runs
fathom tinsel
I think I’ve had it 2-3 in 120
tepid plover
Ive had it a lot
tepid yacht
I feel like it happens to me like half the time haha. I have really bad luck
abstract jackal
So much detail in the game
If you charm asterius during the fight then Theseus just hits on him
warm surge
in my experience, going after gold-tier chamber rewards in styx practically guarantees the satyr sack
it also often ends up being in a room marked as having a miniboss
wheat kayak
the ones with boss (skull) icons?
warm surge
gold is boons and centaur hearts
warm surge
miniboss is skull yeah
warm surge
then you regret the day your foolish demigod ass left home
same as normal
but yeah if you go for the boons or centaur hearts, I more often than not get to satyr sack within first two paths
abstract jackal
Usually it takes me 2-3 paths anyway
subtle cobalt
I've had a lot of runs and i've never seen the satyr sack in the last room
warm surge
oh, yeah
wheat kayak
Not a problem if you run spear 4
abstract jackal
I think it keeps a good risk reward balance as it’s
subtle cobalt
Can it even be in the last one you pick?
wheat kayak
warm surge
I think it's actually, like, decided
wheat kayak
or if you are confident enough in your build that you can take very little damage I guess
abstract jackal
Is that the homing one?
warm surge
yeah
abstract jackal
Fun af
wheat kayak
yeah homing special
I can't decide between Hera or Chiron
both are fun
And then Beowulf came along and it's Hera but a shield
abstract jackal
I was reluctant to use the bow but I used Chiron and got on hit Zeus with special so it procs 4 times and it was a free run
warm surge
beowulf + festive fog is just nuts
wheat kayak
funny you said that because I used to absolutely adore Dio cast
These days I tend to ignore casts
abstract jackal
Watched a speed runner exclusively use Artemis cast
No weapon
Only Artemis cast
warm surge
I'd ignored casts for a bit but I'm warming up to them again because they offer a lot of neat bonus effects in longer fights
esp. with boiling blood
warm surge
nice, same brain
warm surge
the other one nobody uses because it's not a damage bonus :P
abstract jackal
Casts are good to have with gloves
tepid plover
If youre doing a cast build, boiling blood does nothing
wheat kayak
Yeah cast pretty much only for minibosses and bosses
tepid plover
Well it works for everything
warm surge
I guess but i dont often see cast-centered builds except in rare circumstances
wheat kayak
or for some random mob that reminds me I have a cast button
warm surge
or hera, but at that point boiling blood still does good
wheat kayak
usually some form of armour
warm surge
the armor buffer has made me sad many times
generally when I have enough damage output to get 90% of the way through it with one shot
so it takes four shots instead of three
robust sundial
hexagriff + festive fog ! 
abstract jackal
What’s y’all’s opinions on the Demeter laser crystals
wheat kayak
I haven't got the duo boons for Demeter casts
tepid plover
If you get a whole build
wheat kayak
but I'll take free damage
abstract jackal
Fun af but they have a huge cast time
indigo canopy
dio cast with the zeus duo and dem duo is op, absolutely shreds
tepid plover
wheat kayak
Demeter cast is a fine excuse for me to actually pick up cast boons
The only reason I take Dio cast is if I'm running sword and/or I still need the legendary for prophecy
quiet gull
Fog is great on any melee build, really
especially with the support boons
But yeah, crystal beam is ez mode
wheat kayak
yeah it's just me forgetting things
indigo canopy
w arti duo is op the tyracking is madness
quiet gull
I'd like to try a crystal beam build with stygian soul, havent had the chance yet
frigid relic
what do i need to get to get arthur aspect already have spear,bow,shield and gun hidden aspects
frigid relic
into sword?
lofty dragon
Check pins in #h1-story-discussion for details
austere jacinth
Hits on him? In front of the whole crowd? And the blackguard?!
That took like half an hour to send. Gotta love mobile internet.
arctic mango
SPOILERS!
||Hey guys! As I warned, spoilers. So, the only Olympian god who's favor I don't have yet before having the gathering is Aphrodite (besides Hermes who has a bunch of hearts beyond my current locked one and Demeter who's grandma so I'm guessing both of them are for post true ending but please don't spoil it). On the wiki, if says that I need to fully romance Dusa and Meg OR Than. I've fully romanced Meg and Dusa, but a thousand runs later and I still didn't unlock the last ambrosia giveaway to her. I currently have the Dusa is fired plot going on. Do I need to finish this plot? Do I need to fully romance Than? Is this a bug? Thanks for your time!
Also, just to clarify: I already have the option to have the gathering but I really want Aphrodite's favor first.||
I've seen a couple of threads that this used to be a bug back in the beggining of the year
tepid plover
You just to romance then I believe
arctic mango
But I doubt they didn't fix it
tepid plover
They didnt
austere jacinth
||I don't think it's a bug. But loving Death is worth it. May as well go for it.||
tepid plover
Do you use ||approval process||?
It is bugged
For some reason ||approval process|| was blocking it for me
tepid plover
Then go to #h1-tech-support
arctic mango
Okay
tepid plover
Cause it seems like its still bugged
arctic mango
Thanks for the help guys
tepid plover
It was bugged for me
warm surge
I'm pretty sure you have to ||finish the dusa is fired questline|| to romance
warm surge
I'm a good 90-ish% of the way through the ||fired|| questline, I haven't gotten to the end yet
arctic mango
The thing is, I reached the part where ||Nyx told me not to talk about it anymore and I said okay, so when Nyx shows up I have other dialogues with her||
warm surge
You'll want to talk to Achilles
arctic mango
Yes @tepid plover but ||I let her keep it, also had the bedroom scene.||
warm surge
oh, hm
austere jacinth
||The fired thing happened after I finished the romance in my game. I let her keep the Ambrosia||
warm surge
Ah, I was under the impression that ||the fired storyline|| intentionally happens partway through ||romancing dusa.|| That's how it's going in my game
austere jacinth
||After for me. Poor Dusa.||
tepid plover
I had bonded with everyone that was possible before 1.0 except aphro
I believe the ||firing came with 1.0, so I csnt really tell if you need to finish it now||
austere jacinth
Nay. I only started playing after releade
warm surge
Do you need ||ambrosia to bond with the olympians?|| I've been neglecting them since there's plenty of other people that needed attention before
young pelican
SkillUp did a follow-up review for Hades post 1.0 (he last did a video on the game when it was in early access) ||https://youtu.be/mFF5X9xuGwQ||
austere jacinth
Hope it draws in EVEN MORE FANS
gusty slate
Hm? The Dusa ||firing arc|| was in the game before 1.0
tepid plover
Interesting
I never got it until after 1.0 then
And I had pretty much everyone exhausted
gusty slate
I had it done long before 1.0 at least 
cursive bison
Achilles deserves simping tho
tepid plover
^
zealous galleon
fair
cursive bison
Also, hi! I came here to ask a very specific question - is there a full body render/reference of Zagreus knocking about somewhere? I really want to recommend Zag to my cosplay friend for a future project buuuuut he only considers it if he has a head to toe image of the character to make sure he gets all the details 😅
tepid plover
Why wouldn't you simp long hair christ Hemsworth
Dont think so, since the girl that does the 3rd animating thing didn't do zagreus
cursive bison
Ahhhh
arctic mango
However
austere jacinth
The animated trailer does have him in full body
tepid plover
The trailer does a good job tho
arctic mango
We have images with a lot of detail down to his knees
tepid plover
Yep
cursive bison
Thank you all so so so much!
alpine stratus
theres two different zag turnaround sheets floating around i believe, for game and for animation
austere jacinth
His feet are on fire, and he, Than and the Furies all wear the same style greaves.
gusty slate
Oh really?
tepid plover
Id say zags whole body is on fire 🥵
austere jacinth
His feet are especially on fire
quiet gull
Why wouldn't you simp long hair christ Hemsworth
@tepid plover Did you mean to say Brad Pitt?
void vigil
https://twitter.com/0jenzee0/status/1144354281148960768?s=20 @cursive bison something like this?
tepid plover
Mannequin zag looks hot too
There is no escape
Does the six pack and body come included with the cosplay kit?
austere jacinth
Na, you gotta train with Achilles for those
alpine stratus
love that zags got an arm wide open for the turnaround yes of course id love a hug zag thanks,
oblique zenith
Hey I'm new to the chat, I was wondering
austere jacinth
He seems like the kinda guy who'd give you a hug if you asked
cursive bison
Zagreus would totally hug
brisk trail
Hades is 2D
lofty dragon
Zag would hug in order to slip you a bottle of nectar
solemn frigate
Zag is one of the most wholesome fellas the only two people he dislikes are his dad and ::theseus::
tepid plover
He seems like the kinda guy who'd give you a hug if you asked
He seems like the kinda guy who'd give you a hug even if you didn't ask
and yes zag is 2d
Well hades
indigo canopy
theseus is quite dislikable
austere jacinth
He's ask first. He's generally polite!
tepid plover
Lot of people have said no to his asking and he's still done it
Most people have said no as a matter of fact
Doesn't mean he didnt do them a favor
austere jacinth
Not hugs. He's not asked for hugs, generally.
tepid plover
Well you know what I meant
austere jacinth
But if he wanted one, he'd ask. I think.
cursive bison
Zagreus hugging bestest three headed boi?
raven lava
but only the head that likes hugs
cursive bison
There isn't a Cerberus emoji here?
indigo canopy
OMFG I LOVE HADES SO MUCH || I WAS ON MY TENTH RUN AND I WAS ON A 9 WIN STREAK AND ID LOST ALL OF MY DD AND HAD HALF HEALTH AND HE JUST LET ME WALK AWAY THANK GOD||
cursive bison
At least there's one on Steam though 😄
narrow hemlock
@ any devs lurking the channel, may I suggest the wording on the Champion of Elysium achievement be clarified to mention Extreme Measures 3? new players don't always catch on that you need to turn up the pact to a specific level, and as it stands currently I've seen a bit of confusion due to the fact the achievement only says "clear Elysium with Extreme Measures"
tepid plover
THERE ARE HADES STEAM EMOTES?!?!?!?!?!??!!?
narrow hemlock
wish I could type. anyway it would be helpful since I've seen a few people run with lv1 pact and not realize they need lv3
cursive bison
HELL YEAH THERE ARE
indigo canopy
YUP AND BACKGROUNDS AND STICKERS
austere jacinth
I've seen shade emotes
indigo canopy
yup i hav the maxed badge
narrow hemlock
austere jacinth
Omg.
cursive bison
You need to have played the Steam version for two hours at least to get some of the emotes though
tepid plover
If I bought the game in early access I do t get any of the trading cards drops?!?!??!?!?!?!?
austere jacinth
Cute.
tepid plover
I have over 200 hrs on steam lol
narrow hemlock
you get auto card drops based on hours played
tepid plover
Is 200 not worth???
narrow hemlock
That's how steam cards work if cards are added afterwards
cursive bison
Source: played on Switch, saw emotes, couldn't get the emotes, bought the Steam version because I am such a simp for this game 🤣
tepid plover
Why didn't I get any card drops?!?!??!?!
narrow hemlock
have you launched the game recently
void vigil
check your inventory, maybe theyre already there
austere jacinth
I got two Than plus a few others. Imma try to grab Megs card.
tepid plover
I've been playing before 1.0 came out and yes
I have like 50 hrs over the last 2 weeks
WAIT NVM I DO HAVE CARDS OMGGGGGGGG
I just never got the notifications
Effin pogggggg
narrow hemlock
note that you can't get the full set from drops lmao
indigo canopy
my best decision was setting my steam title under my name to pog incarnate
tepid plover
But I usually get notifications when I get cards drop
Well now thats a badge I want
indigo canopy
its a nice darkness encrusted skelly
tepid plover
dense prism
theres a twin fists profile background that makes zag look especially dashing
indigo canopy
thasts the background i have i think
dense prism
yea its quite nice
indigo canopy
i just call all the bloodless skelly
tepid plover
How dare you compare skelly to bloodless
indigo canopy
skelly is a bloodless with flair
dense prism
waow the trading cards are expensive
gleaming sparrow
Yeah they are
Just realized last night this is basically a Tool song https://supergiantgames.bandcamp.com/track/mouth-of-styx
Not like any specific one, just really feels like one
tepid plover
Tool song?
dense prism
oh it doesss
austere jacinth
How much are the cards?
dense prism
like .16 - .30 each
tepid plover
Thats not that bad
arctic mango
In Brazil they go for about .17 U$ each
gleaming sparrow
It's got those weird 5/8 9/8 7/8 thing
tepid plover
How many total for a badge?
indigo canopy
theyre the most expensive cards ive seen in a while
you need 5 sets for every badge
arctic mango
Why can't I send images here?
gleaming sparrow
I bought a batch of cards to complete my set and now my rank is "Wretch"
indigo canopy
I bought a batch of cards to complete my set and now my rank is "Wretch"
@gleaming sparrow do it 4 more times for the full badge
void vigil
you can send an imgur link or from another image hosting site @arctic mango
tepid plover
How many cards for a badge
gleaming sparrow
arctic mango
http://prntscr.com/v404pf so I need to complete this set 5 times?
tepid plover
Yes
dense prism
time to turn a bunch of useless cards into gems ig
indigo canopy
How many cards for a badge
@tepid plover u need 5 sets to max the badge
tepid plover
So 10 cards
arctic mango
Too expensive for me rn
indigo canopy
yup, 50 in total
narrow hemlock
the cards all went up in price and never dropped lol
they were half price during the first couple weeks and most of the foils were under 1usd
arctic mango
Thing is
I live in Brazil
Don't know if it's a straight up conversion
Or there's an internal market
narrow hemlock
I think market prices just convert
arctic mango
Damn
brisk trail
Steam uses different conversions
arctic mango
The dollar spiked in our local currency so I'll probably not get the top badge
narrow hemlock
i had a bunch of cards after I finished the badge bc i was foil hunting but i gave my extras to alma and peach
tepid plover
Anyone know if its possible to buy the animated background with steam points?!??!
Thats the one I want
austere jacinth
I will never understand these. But the cards are cute.
tepid plover
Omg you can
dense prism
the animated mini profile is great
austere jacinth
I will have to check these things out.
dense prism
yea the background
dense prism
no, big sad
tepid plover
Can I get the mini profile by crafting the badge, or does that only drop emotes and background?
narrow hemlock
animated stuff is only sold in the point shop, it's not possible to craft them
dense prism
^
gray geyser
.
tepid plover
Ah, good thing I've been saving points
Wish the animated tartarus and actual background damn
narrow hemlock
could always be something they add later on. when the trading cards got added iirc the animated stickers were there but the mini profile got added later. but ofc don't count on it haha
dull sierra
Hi, does anyone knows why sometime there are stars on next chamber and sometime no, just like here ?
tepid plover
I believe the stars are an actual region boss
dull sierra
fck i can't send pic, why ?
tepid plover
Dm me
vagrant flint
Bouldy in an elevator
Bottom text
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335148815139209216/768521688630558720/unknown.png
tepid plover
I'll help you
indigo canopy
thats one way to get im to the top of the hill
mossy grove
Punching it until it reaches the top is the best way to do it
tepid plover
Why would you punch bouldy
dense prism
becuase bouldy is a sinner
brisk trail
WallaceXVII you're talking mad stuff for someone in oar distance
tepid plover
Lmao
Facts
How do I tell my friend I want him to fight ||charon|| without spoiling it for him
indigo canopy
every single day, mention the word "borrow"
tepid plover
I suggested him to use golden touch so he doesnt visit shops
indigo canopy
in a very "youre not actually borrowing" sense
gusty slate
MAke em run TD
shops are faster
Pit the system against friend, then go when things go wrong
indigo canopy
whats golden touch again
gusty slate
monies inbetween areas
gusty slate
the green side instead of starting with 100 at beginning youget 15% at start of ever intermediate
What
I mean you can still visit shops lul
indigo canopy
would you not want to spend some of it tho?
tepid plover
Not really
indigo canopy
make money to spend it?>
gusty slate
Sure saving is nice, but you can spend
tepid plover
I spend it on ||styx||
gusty slate
if someone wants to throw money around why not let them
gusty slate
Well darn
shops in asphodel and elysium can help. I like taking a breather in Elysium at least when enemies get tough...although I guess I'm praying for some hp.
tepid plover
I play at 20 heat so I dont really have a major hp problem
Part of the challenge as I call it
I never go to shops unless forced
gusty slate
Well, not sure how to persuade then
tepid plover
Me neither
gusty slate
I mean, I go to shops at all heats, but that's me personally
dense prism
tell him "borrow charons money, hes a rly nice guy"
zealous galleon
elysium is absolutely no place to take a breather in lmao
Elysium is the most frustrating part of the game imo
but it's fun
tepid plover
^^^
gusty slate
so I shouldn't run and hide inside Charon's shop inElysium?
but the... meow scares me to this day
austere jacinth
Charon is suuuper helpful and generous.
gusty slate
I can't sleep at night
zealous galleon
oh if you're in safe rooms like the shops then you're probably fine
gusty slate
imagine first person
tepid plover
zealous galleon
oh god
tepid plover
gusty slate
"All our hero heard was a meow "
indigo canopy
most annoying for me is styx
indigo canopy
i hate the poison and snake stones
zealous galleon
i think that outside of the first map, every map has something that is frustrating or kinda cheeses at your health
but Elysium has the most of that kind of stuff
tepid plover
Lava
zealous galleon
yeah that's the worst part about asphodel lmao
dense prism
i get mad at myself when i step in the lava, but theres usually so much going on i dont even realize im in it
gusty slate
My playstyle sorta makes me take lots of damage so I'm pretty much unfazed by little lava ticks now 
marsh prism
anyone know about cross-save status?
gusty slate
Don't think they've said anything have they?
north bison
is there anywhere i can find the cute chibi icons that show up when you max out a character 👀 specifically looking for the artemis one ;-;
indigo canopy
probably in the game assets
north bison
i looked in the files on my laptop but idk where the actual assets are, i think some of these might be some kind of database that have the assets inside
zenith crown
Is there a cap for Family Favorite?
quiet gull
There is no real cap, but there are nine gods total so
dry mauve
i mean you're never getting that many gods in one run
the game caps you at 4 gods naturally, plus hermes, so 25%
you can force extra gods with keepsakes
with a perfect run designed to abuse FF you would cap at 40 I think
you pick up 4 gods in tartarus, then get one new god in the other three biomes, plus hermes
but its very not guaranteed that you pick up 4 different gods in tartarus and getting new gods in the other biomes requires you to sacrifice your keepsake slot
smoky rune
Any updates onSwitch cross saves?
zenith crown
That's what I was thinking. Thanks for the replies.
tepid plover
Also having that many gods is just bad
fringe garnet
also, it is MUCH EASIER to trigger two curses than you think, at least by late game
dry mauve
well it depends
if you have artemis as your primary source of dps I think family favorites is good
tepid plover
Some gods have the status in the normal boons and the other isnt that hard to get either
dry mauve
since its much harder to reliably have two curses with artemis on your primary button
tepid plover
Well if youre planning to press left click only I guess
dry mauve
getting PS enabled with artemis usually involves some weird stuff
fringe garnet
every god offers a curse in at least 2 boons
Athena: deflect makes foes exposed
Poseidon: knockback causes rupture
Aphro: weak
Ares: doom
Demeter: cold
Dio: hangover
Zeus: lightning makes folks jolted
artemis: crits make foes marked
and those are all good
tepid plover
But again you will be dashing so you can easily pick up dio dash and artemis marked
So ez status
dry mauve
dio dash means you dont have athena dash though
and also makes you dash into the boss to apply status
tepid plover
Then pick up exposed
fringe garnet
listen, athena dash is the best dash..................... but it is boring to have it be the only dash you ever play it!
dry mauve
that also requires you to dash into the boss
fringe garnet
keep runs fresh!
tepid plover
Dashing into stuff is the best decision regardless
fringe garnet
look at this awesome EM4 run i did with the fourth aspect of Malphon and the Zeus dash ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPUCqytgmTU||
dry mauve
its possible to get PS but it requires a lot more boons and sometimes requires you to take boons that wouldn't be good without PS
fringe garnet
i could have never had that fun build if i only ever took athena dash
dry mauve
if you have non-artemis on your primary button though then PS is usually not that hard to enable
its just artemis that is bad imo because mark is hard to consistently apply to bosses
so you have to find two statuses outside of your primary button and keep them up in your rotation
which is usually not trivial to do
tepid plover
The only reason why I run family favorite is because I run ap
brisk trail
Is it a viable strat to try to for duo boons or is it too inconsistent
dry mauve
its pretty viable if you have the last few talents in the mirror
a bit less viable without them but still possible
brisk trail
Like god favour? I think it’s called
dry mauve
the one that boosts odds of duo boons, plus the one that lets you reroll boons
tepid plover
If youre aiming for duos yes
dry mauve
also you want god keepsakes
fringe garnet
#1) fill out your "main slots" first: attack, special, cast, dash, call. these slots have increased priority when empty
#2) buy Yarns of Ariandrle or whatever it is and take Eurydice's ability to make the next 3 boons have increased rareness
#3) Fated Persuasion
#4) the mirror talent that can increase duos/legendarys by 10%
dry mauve
to force the specific gods to appear
fringe garnet
god keepsakes also help
i like to save the keepsake for the build im going for until asphodel or later for exactly this reason
like if you're going for zeus' legendary, for instance
it's more effective to use zeus' keepsake on a run where zeus has already come up naturally 3-5 times
brisk trail
I’m starting each run with the purse keepsake is that actually good or am I shooting myself in the foot
tepid plover
If you dont want a specific god from the beginning that isn't bad
flat vapor
it’s fine
flat vapor
if you don’t want a specific god, or have all the gods you need already, it’s a good choice
fringe garnet
I’m starting each run with the purse keepsake is that actually good or am I shooting myself in the foot
@brisk trail the highest heat ive cleared is 16, so take what is say with a grain of salt, but my starts are almost always either: build-focused God boon, Butterfly/Plume, or Purse
I run the% gold increase
@brisk trail i never do this b/c my goal is always to buy at least 4 things from charon per biome - generally a heart and a boon per visit
so i cannot afford to save up
though if you do what yikes does, Charon's keepsake is A+++ for styx
brisk trail
Charons keepsake sounds crazy good but idk if it is
Gonna try running a god specific boon from start for a while see what I prefer
Is there a limit on the amount of hammers you can get per run it seems like it’s 2
fringe garnet
Charons keepsake sounds crazy good but idk if it is
@brisk trail depends on what comes up in the well but it's quite good yes
anything you buy in the third styx chamber will last you all the way to the final boss
extra casts, extra attack damage, extra special, extra movespeed
and shops come up so often in the last few styx chambers
that you can buy a lot
austere jacinth
I tend to save until Styx. Then go on a wild spending spree.
fringe garnet
Is there a limit on the amount of hammers you can get per run it seems like it’s 2
@brisk trail yep, hard-locked at 2 (excepting the anvil).
the game wants to give you one in every biome though. one time i took none by the time i was at elysium and ended up being offered a hammer THREE TIMES before i hit the boss
notably, it will also never let you accept more than 1 per biome
brisk trail
Oh wow I take hammer instantly when I see it but if it comes back I probably won’t anymore
fringe garnet
i normally do too, in this particular run there was a duo/legendary i needed more
so i spurned it twice
was shocked to see it offered a third time (when i took it)
dry mauve
it depends on the competition
usually hammers are the biggest power upgrade so you might as well take them when they're offered
brisk trail
You have any god recommendations for the fist weapon I enjoy it a lot but can’t really make it work
dry mauve
but if you really need a particular boon to round out your build I could see skipping the hammer for a god room
sweet flax
I've always run god-god/mom-purse-acorn