h1-discussion

[tepid plover]

All that does it give you the darkness back

[zealous galleon]

I meant like

I haven't finished that specific thing that White Rose is talking about yet

[tepid plover]

And?

[tiny grove]

I see

[zealous galleon]

And you said "If youre ok with playing without mirror upgrades"

So I was wondering if like if you wanted to finish that thing you'd lose mirror upgrades forever

[narrow hemlock]

no

[zealous galleon]

Ah okay good

[tepid plover]

Nvm

Too much typing

[brisk trail]

bruh why'd anyone make such desing

[zealous galleon]

I mean I'd still do it because I would feel bad not doing it, but good to know I won't lose mirror upgrades forever

[narrow hemlock]

its just that if you respec to refund your darkness and you have just enough for that quest, then obviously you have no darkness to put back into the mirror in that moment

[zealous galleon]

Ah okay that makes sense

[tepid plover]

^

[brisk trail]

tbf at that point you'd probs have far more than 3k

[tepid plover]

I keep forgetting it doesnt cost 8888 anymore

[narrow hemlock]

mood lol

i respec'd my mirror when that quest came out bc i was just a bit short and i didnt feel like grinding my last 2k. i had enough darkness leftover to put back into important traits so it wasnt a big deal.

[tepid plover]

I just grinded

Man what a grind

[narrow hemlock]

eh i just wanted to progress the narrative while i was there, i can "grind" as i continue runs for more story, if that makes sense. i dont really enjoy grinding for the sake of grinding, in most games

[quaint hatch]

[tepid plover]

I knew there was no real benefit to it, so I set it as a side quest

[narrow hemlock]

well i play hades for the characters and story so that was my priority lol

gameplay is second to me

[tepid plover]

I have it balanced

[zealous galleon]

well i play hades for the characters and story so that was my priority lol
@narrow hemlock same

The only thing keeping me going with doing runs over and over and over again is the story

Every tiny bit we get every time I die or talk to a god for a boon

[tepid plover]

All my characters are exhausted so is gameplay now for me

[zealous galleon]

Yeah I'm worried my characters are going to be exhausted soon too

You know, I wouldn't mind it if I knew we were gonna get a DLC or a sequel in the future 😔

Oh no why is everyone suddenly typing

[austere jacinth]

I have probably missed things by doing things in a certain order, so I'll certainly be replaying it at some time. I'd love DLC/Hades 2 though. Such a good game.

[narrow hemlock]

you're more likely to exhaust the olympians before the other npcs but it really just depends

[tepid plover]

I have probably missed things by doing things in a certain order, so I'll certainly be replaying it at some time. I'd love DLC/Hades 2 though. Such a good game.
You never really miss anything

[zealous galleon]

I mean I talk with the NPCs at home every run, with the gods less so

[tepid plover]

Everyone is exhausted for me

Olympians and whatnot

Hades throws a casual convo once in a while

[brisk trail]

they usually don't make sequels, same for dlcs I'd say but the previous titles weren't really fit for it
yeah you can't miss anything in this game, unless you missclick and skip dialogue :/

[tepid plover]

But thats it

[delicate pilot]

does the game have some system in place to detect what boons to put up on the end screen?

I swear it always has the boons I used the most.

[tepid plover]

Random

[narrow hemlock]

yeah its just that overall the olympians have less dialogue than the others, so if there's certain olympians you hit up frequently, you might burn them out to their pool of repeatable dialogue first lol

[zealous galleon]

Ugh I love this story so much, I've already noticed that certain NPCs have stopped talking to me or only say quick one-liners because they're out of dialogue

Hypnos basically only says "welcome to the house of hades" now

[tepid plover]

Thats my whole game rn

[zealous galleon]

Final Boss' second part doesn't say anything anymore

[tepid plover]

I do love the gameplay

[zealous galleon]

Elysium bosses basically only have Theseus say the same lines over and over again about how I'm a blackguard or something and not welcome

[tepid plover]

You blackguard

I love how the game spells daemon

[narrow hemlock]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/10/13/hades-game-origins/

“It was just really important to me personally that you don’t run into a moment any time soon where these characters run out of things to say, because that’s the moment where you as a participant in the story discover the limits of the character,” Kasavin said. “It was also a commitment to our idea of giving the game a narrative context throughout a rogue-like experience game. It’s an infinitely replayable game, so ideally it should have infinite content. But someone does have to write that stuff, and we have to stop at some point."

that last bit 😔

[zealous galleon]

I get what he's saying and we've noticed it already I think, unfortunately

Some of us with certain characters at least

[tepid plover]

I'm glad at least they kept one quick sentence for recycled lines

[velvet grail]

Damn my thumb hurts

[tepid plover]

Still giving you some feeling

[zealous galleon]

This game prides itself in having so many lines so when one character runs out of lines, it breaks the immersion extra hard

True

[tepid plover]

I love how Olympians still talk to me

I know most of the lines, and I still let them talk

[vernal obsidian]

Does God Mode only go to 80 or can you get to 100 ?

[zealous galleon]

The writers also did something where they know a character is about to run out of lines so they have them say something like "in the future when we talk let's just fight and not talk"

[narrow hemlock]

the pool of repeated dialogue for characters tends to be like... uhhh i wanna say around 20-30 lines sometimes? i dont remember but it is enough that even though you've seen it already, youre not seeing the same thing often enough to really notice, i guess

[zealous galleon]

And I like it but at the same time, it's so obvious why the characters are saying that and it still feels weird

[narrow hemlock]

@vernal obsidian caps at 80, dying is important to the narrative so you're not allowed to be fully invulnerable

[zealous galleon]

This one for example

https://i.imgur.com/OTjfwbD.png

[velvet grail]

Theseus is a chode

[zealous galleon]

Honestly imo they might as well have not done these kind of lines

[narrow hemlock]

@zealous galleon i mean. it’s a 2D video game with more than 20,000 recorded lines of dialogue. For comparison, “Skyrim” had more than 60,000 recorded lines. hades is already one third of skyrim, which is impressive in its own right. obviously if you sink a lot of time into the game you're inevitably going to hit a point the new content has to end.

[zealous galleon]

Oh yeah I agree I understand that

But that unfortunately doesn't change the fact that when you do hit those limits, it sucks extra hard

[narrow hemlock]

the nature of narrative driven games i suppose. everything has to find some sort of end. sure you can be disappointed by that but you can also feel good about what you did experience

[zealous galleon]

I think that it's moreso because the game is a rogue like

Or I guess roguelite

Whatever, lmao

You talk to these characters more than you normally would in any other type of game I feel like

[narrow hemlock]

yeah i pointed out earlier that the expectation for continued content is inherent to the genre but hades isnt striving to deliver that sort of experience, necessarily

[zealous galleon]

And that sucks, but it's also understandable

[humble flax]

i feel like hades is at a great point

[zealous galleon]

One of the biggest reasons why early access worked so well with this game is because people basically continously got new content

[humble flax]

you can’t really ask for much more

[zealous galleon]

And now that just kinda stopped

I mean

[humble flax]

compare it to other rogues

[zealous galleon]

I think we can ask for more, but the devs don't necessarily have to add more seeing as how they've added everything they wanted to add

[humble flax]

there’s a major difference in the content and story hades has compared to like maybe say wizard of legends

[robust sundial]

@zealous galleon Theseus told me that and yet he kept blabbering new lines afterwards...

[zealous galleon]

He still blabbers some one liners because they can't just have you walk into the room and then suddenly start fighting, yeah

Also if you have certain boons I think and weapons that you haven't used before, he'll comment on that too

[robust sundial]

haven't seem him repeat himself in my 90 runs.

[humble flax]

do you need to beat the champions with fist for hidden aspect?

[zealous galleon]

there’s a major difference in the content and story hades has compared to like maybe say wizard of legends
@humble flax true but even with how Hades integrated story into the roguelike genre, I noticed they have been stretching the story as much as they could stretch it without it looking obviously bad

[humble flax]

or is it in the miniboss room

after you have 5 blood into the fists

rn it’s a really comfortable length

i don’t like long games but hades is a big exception

the story delivers and the gameplay hits hard

it definitely takes a while to reach the true ending and stuff but those same cliffhangers are what makes you love and hate the game

[zealous galleon]

do you need to beat the champions with fist for hidden aspect?
@humble flax you need the hidden aspect of the spear, 5 blood into the fists and then fight asterius alone

[vernal obsidian]

Then I ask how many death defiance can you carry (then I mean Skellys perk as well)

[cosmic stone]

Is there a channel to discuss glitches?

[humble flax]

5

[cosmic stone]

Because there’s one that has been bugging me for a while

[humble flax]

3 from mirror skelly and chaos

[zealous galleon]

#h1-tech-fixes and #h1-tech-support probably

[cosmic stone]

Okay

[humble flax]

@humble flax you need the hidden aspect of the spear, 5 blood into the fists and then fight asterius alone
@zealous galleon thx, i was alone with him but i think my autograph interaction ruined it

[zealous galleon]

Yeah some interactions are prioritised over others I think

Or it just randomly chooses one of the quest interactions

[humble flax]

i put one more blood into fists for it and then boom i got an autograph instead

[zealous galleon]

Lmao

rn it’s a really comfortable length
@humble flax also yeah I agree but it's like, what do you do when the story is over 😔

[humble flax]

start over, find a new game? idk

[zealous galleon]

😔

[humble flax]

or torture yourself with speedrunning

[zealous galleon]

See the thing is like

I enjoy the gameplay, it's fun, but I'm really mostly here for the story

[humble flax]

you also play the other super giant games?

i thought they also had good story

[zealous galleon]

I'm currently trying out Bastion and it's good so far but I don't think these games are going to scratch that Hades itch

[humble flax]

if you in for the bosses and don’t mind grinding

maybe terraria modded

[zealous galleon]

I actually hate grinding lmao

[ember ravine]

The one beef I've had with the game is that the story progression often relies on RNG

[humble flax]

cheat mods do exist

[tepid plover]

is a roguelike, the whole game relies in rng

[ember ravine]

like you get someone saying "hey go talk to Nyx about that" and it's fully 20 runs before Zagreus actually talks to her about it

That's not the same at all

[zealous galleon]

Yeah I've noticed that too, I don't mind it really

[humble flax]

The one beef I've had with the game is that the story progression often relies on RNG
ah yes just like my new file not getting nyx for 6 runs

pretty pepega

it’s not as big of an issue to me

[zealous galleon]

It's not a big issue to me either but I have noticed that it happens sometimes

[humble flax]

ima watch me pick butterfly room next run

rng

[ember ravine]

It's kinda frustrating when you're trying to advance a specific plotline

[zealous galleon]

I don't know if it's intentional or not but it is... a way to artificially lengthen the game

Yeah

[ember ravine]

I'm not exaggerating about the 20 runs thing

[humble flax]

scooter ankle is an option

if you don’t mind run win rate

[ember ravine]

Was also on a good streak that I didn't want to give up, so throwing wasn't an option

[humble flax]

F

[steep elm]

does sweet nectar (aphro + poseidon) affect ||persephone's keepsake||?

[humble flax]

i think it does

pretty sure haelian did a stream with that?

[steep elm]

cool, this should be fun

[humble flax]

level 30 crystal beam yes

[abstract drum]

time to start slowly working myself towards H32

Just tried making the jump from 16 straight to 32 after jumping from 8 to 16. Didn't last long at all

[dusty path]

“The problem with this roguelike is things relying on RNG” 😂

[tepid plover]

no kidding lmao

[austere jacinth]

I am playing terribly today. Too sleepy, I think xDD

[quiet gull]

Just turn on Stubborn Defiance then

[austere jacinth]

Nah, gonna take a break and maybe watch someone else play xDD

[hollow mulch]

i'm trying to do a hardcore hell run, and i've tried 40 times so far and want to pull all of my hair out at once

[tepid plover]

[fallen crow]

I'm trying to determine whether to get Hades or kerbal space program, what do you guys think?

[tiny grove]

Hades

then KSP)

you're on SGG discord duh

[bright lance]

You're in the Hades discord, so I'm guessing most people will say Hades, including me LOL

[zealous galleon]

I'm trying to get used to playing with the bow right now but god it's so slow

[sharp fossil]

yeah it’s always funny to me when people come here and be like “Should I buy Hades?” and it’s like

[hardy escarp]

Why would you ask "Should I get this game or Hades?" on a Hades discord?

[sharp fossil]

well, obviously we’re going to say yes

[hardy escarp]

exactly lol

[zealous galleon]

okay that's it

im giving up this run

[hardy escarp]

The bow is the best bro

[zealous galleon]

maybe but I still have to get used to the fact that I can't just quickly melee someone

[brazen stone]

This might be pointless but, are there any good / nice upgrades to do with the decor choices from the contractor?

[tiny grove]

What's your aesthetic inclination? There's a little something for everybody xd

[brazen stone]

Tricky without having previews

[tiny grove]

the descriptions are fairly indicative

just make sure Hades is around to comment on your wise purchases

[austere jacinth]

If the upgrades are near someone's usual hangout, make sure they're there too.

Than thanking me for a chair as Hades barks that death incarnate doesn't need to sit amuses me.

[zealous galleon]

dangit

I just got the ||poseidon aspect|| for the sword and I just wanted to see what Poseidon had to say about it

im currently at the final boss, haven't encountered him at all lmao

[tepid plover]

summon him

[eternal frigate]

Hey, guys :)
Sorry if the question is... "illegal", but is there a place where I can get the .png files from game sprites? To be 100% honest, I'm planning on making a whatsapp sticker pack with the shades' reactions (like ) and ||characters' bond icons||, wich are so cute!
Is there some repository/ripped pack of sprites?
Thanks a lot!

[narrow hemlock]

datamined stuff isn't to be discussed on the official server, sorry

[eternal frigate]

@narrow hemlock Oh, I get it, sorry about that. Do you want me to remove my question?

[narrow hemlock]

you dont have to. but protip you can simply save the discord emoji

[raw lantern]

ahhh i keep losing my death defiances on the temple of styx

[austere jacinth]

Would you like some poison with your dog treats?

[raw lantern]

the rats consume me

[stuck sundial]

how many things do you have to buy foy "a place of revelry"

i have purchased 15 things in total for the lounge

[velvet grail]

Holy crap, I am so damn powerful this round

got my first duio

[quiet gull]

how many things do you have to buy foy "a place of revelry"
@stuck sundial You need ||twelve including a rug||

After that, it's just RNG

[stuck sundial]

agghhh

[delicate pilot]

I love it when a god is like "You are about to receive the greatest boon I have to offer" and all of them are bad

[tiny grove]

I offer thee an EPIC

||fail||

[gritty sand]

I just finished my first run and even though it was really simple I'm so proud lmao

[tiny grove]

Gratz man!

[gritty sand]

Thanks^^

I feel like the shield is the easiest weapon to use

[delicate pilot]

Dang

I feel like the shield is the worst weapon

I prefer the fists or spear

[gritty sand]

Wanna try my build? It basically carries you all the way through

[delicate pilot]

you can post it in #h1-builds-and-combat if ya want

[gritty sand]

I feel like the shield is the worst weapon
Well it can block and you can throw it around like some big, heavy frisbee

[dapper mango]

i also really like the part where you can also gather gems and diamonds to upgrade dungeon changes or house aestetics and stuff well all the items keys darkness mirror alternates nectar etc huhu

[raw lantern]

behold a rare boon

[delicate pilot]

I feel like the base shield is kinda meh with the special

you wind up being left open for a really long time if you miss the shot

[gritty sand]

you can post it in #h1-builds-and-combat if ya want
Unfortunately it's in german, do people recognize the pictures?

[raw lantern]

which aspect is best for the shield?

[velvet grail]

Nooooooooooooooooooooo

was so close to beating Hades

damn it

[gritty sand]

which aspect is best for the shield?
I'd say chaos

[dapper mango]

depends what you put on the special i had the thing where after using it it makes your next 2 attack stronger by like 50% ?

(shield)

[gritty sand]

was so close to beating Hades
You'll get it one day!

[dapper mango]

paired with big shot modification for 80 damage on charge (ranged)

[brisk trail]

Had a blast playing Hades earlier! I'm really loving the soundtrack

[velvet grail]

that was the most powerful I've ever been by far

[dapper mango]

yea soundtrack is really good also

[brisk trail]

Would be cool to see Hades as an animated show

the voice over work alone just begs for it

[wooden quartz]

oh, does hades on controller still not have a way to separate aiming onto right stick?

[raw lantern]

charged shield hmmmzzz

[gritty sand]

The only way I found shield good (yet) is with a toon of doom and the boon that your special hits 4 more enemies

[delicate pilot]

Man you know what the worst thing ever is?

[light knot]

Shield is kinda always good

It’s the safest weapon

[delicate pilot]

||than|| in asphodel with ||44% more enemy chaos boon||

[long field]

I personally never liked the Shield, and likely never will

It just feels so weird

[delicate pilot]

non spoiler version

colonel mustard in asphodel with the candlestick

[light knot]

My favorites weapons are the sword/fists and bow

[long field]

My favorites are Sword, Spear, Fists, and Gun

I chose which one to use depending on my mood

[woven cipher]

so... flame wheel release. Can you only buy it in elysium, or can you buy it on the transit room leading to elysium?

[raw lantern]

so for pierced butterfly keepsake, do you lose all your bonus damage if you get hit or do you just not get the extra 2% for that chamber?

[sudden dock]

My favorite weapon is the adamant rail. As a big fan of twinstick shooters like Alien Shooter and Shadowgrounds.

[wise sparrow]

just not the 2 from that chamber

the rest you earned is kept

[raw lantern]

[hardy escarp]

What happens if you press f10 again?

[wise sparrow]

its to report bugs

[delicate pilot]

it opens a bug report window

[hardy escarp]

well crap I thought it was screenshot

[delicate pilot]

i mean it does kinda screenshot

it's just not a screenshot you can use

[hardy escarp]

well I guess this is a bug report technically anyways

Theseus was just stuck on a wall

[wooden quartz]

what does the toggleable cursor thing on the boon screen do?

[hardy escarp]

I can't open the game again

[tepid plover]

Just close the window

[hardy escarp]

uhhhh did I just screw my run

[tepid plover]

Your run should save regardless

[long field]

Stuff you can use in between runs is always saved

No worries

I learned that myself

[hardy escarp]

it sent me back to the house

[long field]

Your run may have ended from that, but whatever you collected won't disappear

[tepid plover]

In #h1-tech-fixes you can recover the run

[long field]

Although encounters with the gods won't be saved

[tepid plover]

Go to #h1-tech-fixes

Theres a solution to recover the run

@hardy escarp

[hardy escarp]

yeah I'm looking

[tepid plover]

Oh alright, you can also ask in #h1-tech-support

If swan is online hell walk you right through it

He helped me

[hardy escarp]

it didn't work

I think I might just kill myself for a fresh run

[quaint hatch]

[proven pebble]

https://prnt.sc/v1wwmp

do i win something

even tho it's the wrong mythology

[quaint hatch]

You get to stay in hell longer

Good for one ambrosia at the lounge

[hardy escarp]

wait so if f10 is bug report which is screenshot?

[flat vapor]

f11

[manic bobcat]

f12?

default for steam is f12 i thought

[flat vapor]

though bug reporting does save a screenshot too

for me i press f11, i use egs

[hardy escarp]

well I used bug report and my game crashed so I'm not sure that I will ever press that key again

[ruby wadi]

What's everyone's best time so far?

I just managed 19:58 with spear but I'm going to assume that's not great.

[indigo canopy]

does anyone know the name of the ambient song that plays in elysium, it sounds like it has a flute or panpipes in it

[tiny grove]

rage of the myrmidons @indigo canopy

[opaque nexus]

What's everyone's best time so far?
@ruby wadi 7:58

Unfortunately that was not recorded so I can’t submit it to speedrun.com

[raw lantern]

32 minutes

[ruby wadi]

@opaque nexus wow that's fast!

[indigo canopy]

rage of the myrmidons @indigo canopy
@tiny grove thank you friend

[ruby wadi]

How is that even possible

[low dagger]

What's everyone's best time so far?
@ruby wadi 13.27 with ||beowulf|| shield

[tiny grove]

there are sub 7 min runs unseeded

on record

[indigo canopy]

just got ||guan yu|| lemme see if i can beat ||hades|| 31 times the charm

[woven cipher]

is there a way to know your playtime on Switch? or am I better not knowing lol

[tiny grove]

gl

[low dagger]

just got ||guan yu|| lemme see if i can beat ||hades|| 31 times the charm
@indigo canopy thats definetly the worst aspect imo

and therefore hardest

[ruby wadi]

@woven cipher should be on the info in your library for the game

[woven cipher]

@indigo canopy I struggled with that, go ||fireworks build and don't kill yourself trying to cast the lifesteal 🙂 ||

[opaque nexus]

Bro who called the Guandao the worst

[woven cipher]

me, don't @ me

[quaint hatch]

Shame on you

[woven cipher]

@ruby wadi thank you friend, seems like I'm at 90 hours

I believe that's amateur numbers around here, but I got this like, 16 days ago

oh no no no it's 5.6 hours per day on average I played this game

I need to get some help

[quaint hatch]

Pump those up

[ruby wadi]

I only have about 40 on steam but that's because I pause and take a break after each run

[quaint hatch]

Those are rookie numbers

[ruby wadi]

So realistically probably 25-30

[brisk trail]

Guys

I have a question I’m at the end

Gonna put a spoiler tag now

So just a warning

[woven cipher]

damn, I don't even work that many hours in a week

[narrow mauve]

zagreus I blame u for all my failed runs

[quaint hatch]

Deserved

[narrow mauve]

[brisk trail]

||I am at Cerberus, I got his thing and I have coins left. Should I spend them all? Or is there another shop that will pop up? ||

Spoiler for the end of the game.

[quaint hatch]

Spend the ones you can

[brisk trail]

Okay

[woven cipher]

@brisk trail is this your first run ||to the final boss? ||

good luck if so

[brisk trail]

Yes

I never versed the ||final boss yet||

[woven cipher]

update us in 5 mins ❤️

[raw lantern]

spend spend spend

[hardy escarp]

so how did it go?

Did you do it?

[flat vapor]

glhf

it's been 10 minutes

[hardy escarp]

Also yeah most rogue likes your hours need to be around 100 to start getting out of rookie territory

[delicate pilot]

I just bought a death defiance repleshment but then i realized

i didn't actually die, i just thought i was going to

[brisk trail]

I just ||beat Hades for the first time||... I feel bad

[long field]

Wow, you actually won!?

[brisk trail]

||Hades is a good parent in my opinion||

Yes

||He was easy to be honest||

[hardy escarp]

Wait you beat him first try

[brisk trail]

Yes

[long field]

How!?

[brisk trail]

Now not my first run

[flat vapor]

good gamer

[brisk trail]

Just the first time I met him

[long field]

I could never get past him

[dusty path]

Ok so what is the house contractor thing for

[brisk trail]

I used the fists

[flat vapor]

congrats on first win!

[hardy escarp]

[long field]

Every time I met up with him I just got blown away

Absolutely decimated

[brisk trail]

I used the fists with Aphrodite boons mostly

[delicate pilot]

TBH

[brisk trail]

Avoid the ||beams||

[long field]

Sounds like fun

[delicate pilot]

3rd boss is harder then ||hades||

[brisk trail]

Now I’m gonna see what’s next

[hardy escarp]

Ok so what is the house contractor thing for
@dusty path you can upgrade the house to make it look better and upgrade the dungeons themselves for fountains and other loot

[brisk trail]

I still think the hardest boss in this game is the ||Hydra||

[hardy escarp]

@delicate pilot I really disagree but okay

@brisk trail uhhhhhhhh what

[brisk trail]

Alright I’m gonna continue

I never got to this part

[long field]

I do not really know how it ends, but I feel like I will get emotional!

[dusty path]

@brisk trail if that’s true it’s great news for me

[austere jacinth]

||Charon|| for me. Though I haven't fought him much. Too much guilt xDD

[delicate pilot]

the funniest part of what you said zegreus is that ||you beat the game. you got a lot more to go||

[long field]

How do you fight ||Charon||?

[austere jacinth]

||Shoplifting...||

[delicate pilot]

||sometimes a bag of coin appear behind him. just grab it and he gets mad||

[long field]

How does it appear?

[hardy escarp]

@long field You ||Take his bag of money that is sometimes behind him||

[delicate pilot]

randomly

[long field]

I have his friendship maxed out

And it has not appeared once for me

[delicate pilot]

irrelevant

[hardy escarp]

I don't think that changes anything

[woven cipher]

@brisk trail wtf you got it first try? Took me a lot of tries from getting there to actually winning

congrats!

[delicate pilot]

trust me when I say now that you now how to do it

[austere jacinth]

||Has to be in a shop that isn't pre-boss||

[delicate pilot]

you'll start noticing the trigger

[long field]

So it's just 2 best friends fighting!

Oooooooh

[woven cipher]

About how to fight|| charon: 20% chance in shops that isn't pre-boss||

[long field]

That makes sense

[brisk trail]

Honestly he was the easiest boss for me

[hardy escarp]

It has to be in ||Shops in the middle of a floor, not the ones before a boss||

[long field]

I will test that

[brisk trail]

Every other boss I had to redo at least once

||Hades was the easiest in my opinion||

[hardy escarp]

wow

[brisk trail]

||I had a harder time fighting the rats||

[hardy escarp]

I...

Okay now you're just bragging

[woven cipher]

also a warning just in case people want to cheat like me: ||for winning 2x in a row, you can't "give up" after you lose to charon, the game somehow knows this and doesn't count achievement||

either your build is very good for single damage, or you're just good

[brisk trail]

I think it’s just preference

Also based on your weapon

Who is harder than who

[woven cipher]

I mean fists was the worst beginner weapon for me, not gonna lie

[austere jacinth]

||I just don't wanna steal from him, even though his BF and family say its fine. Shoplifting is bad xDD||

[brisk trail]

Also keepsakes are VERY important

[woven cipher]

I needed to cheese it with athena attack to get my first fist win

[long field]

You are just kinda bragging at this point

[brisk trail]

I’m really not trying to

[long field]

It kinda hurts for us who cannot beat him

[woven cipher]

@austere jacinth ||"his bf"?||

[long field]

For us that struggle immensely

[woven cipher]

am I missing something

[brisk trail]

I struggled with ||Hydra||

[long field]

We all did

[austere jacinth]

||Hermes, lol. I'm referring to their close, very secretive, very professional relationship. Hermes and Charon have that bet about beating him twice.||

I didn't actually struggle with the Hydra.

All the other bosses were harder for me.

[hardy escarp]

I've only lost to the hydra once

in 70 runs

actually twice nvm

[flat vapor]

hermes x charon is my favorite ship

the fan art i've seen of it convinced me

[hardy escarp]

oh damn

[austere jacinth]

I dunno if its my fave. Hades has some great ships. I do like it though xD

[long field]

Zag x Than

also Artemis x Callisto

[hardy escarp]

I know this so boring but

[flat vapor]

zag x than too mainstream

/jk

[long field]

Also, you know, Patroclus and Achilles

[hardy escarp]

Zag x Meg is the most obvious one, it seems like ||Artemis has a crush on Zag or am I just making that up||

[austere jacinth]

Any combo of Zag, Than, and Meg makes me happy. Patrochilles is just glorious. My heart.

[raven lava]

artemis is 100%

[long field]

Artemis is gay

[austere jacinth]

Artemis is hinted to be gay. Possibly asexual too. But def not into dudes.

[long field]

She talks about Callisto a lot

It's adorable

She literally calls Callisto "My dear Callisto"

[austere jacinth]

She's also very 'leave the worship of me to the nymphs' whenever you gift her.

[flat vapor]

i've seen much less meg x zag fan art than zag x than

[austere jacinth]

I still need to unlock the double bedroom scene with Meg and Than.

[hardy escarp]

Wait that exists

[flat vapor]

(it might just be the twitter circles i hang out in, tbf)

[long field]

I think people are happy that there is an actual relationship between two guys

[austere jacinth]

Yes it does.

[long field]

That is probably why Zag x Than is so popular

[austere jacinth]

I do think Zag and Than's relationship has slightly better writing. But I love both Meg and Than lots.

[flat vapor]

every day i regret not ||also romancing meg, there's so much dialogue i missed||

[long field]

You gotta love these characters!

[hardy escarp]

wait how do you not do that

[austere jacinth]

I plan on having more than one playthrough for reasons.

[hardy escarp]

how do you not do that lol

[austere jacinth]

And you can 'ease off' with Meg if you choose.

[flat vapor]

did you get to the choice scene

[hardy escarp]

ohhhh

[flat vapor]

you pick the second option

[long field]

I love so many characters, but there is not enough Nectar to go around!

[austere jacinth]

You also get the option to ease off with Than... or in the double scene.

[hardy escarp]

I didn't ease off with either of them lol

[flat vapor]

if i knew that meant any and all dialogue for that character would be cut off, i would've chosen both

[long field]

Once I give the mirror all my keys, I will get keys for Nectar

With the Broker

[floral belfry]

than doesn't appear often enough for any interaction with him lmao

[austere jacinth]

Me either (on the subject of backing off). And I won't for the double. I wish there was more art of the three of them.

[floral belfry]

last 2 playthroughs I did never saw him, only my latest he ever appeared

[flat vapor]

i've not seen a single poly art of the three, now that you mention it

[long field]

Gotta love Zagreus's little Polygamy

[flat vapor]

shame, really

[austere jacinth]

I've seen some. BUT not enough.

[long field]

Give it time y'all!

Game still practically just went into 1.0

[hardy escarp]

I'm a little disturbed that there even is a double bedroom scene but hey

[long field]

Artists will catch on

[woven cipher]

there's a double bedroom scene?

[raw lantern]

i always have 1 nectar just in case thanatos shows up

[woven cipher]

is this a meme or real

[dusty path]

Ok I just fought ||meg and she was randomly zombified on a run?! What caused that?!||

[flat vapor]

don't let your dreams be memes

[long field]

HADES is very Bisexual, it is so real

[tepid plover]

Ok I just fought ||meg and she was randomly zombified on a run?! What caused that?!||
@dusty path thats her sister

[long field]

I am sure you fought Tisiphone

[flat vapor]

hades™️ is very horny, if that shenpai video was anything to go by

[long field]

Tisiphone is insane and generally unhinged

I love Shen's comments while playing

I would be lying if I said I didn't say some of the same things in that vain

Like my comments on Zag's voice

[drowsy finch]

excuse you this is a christian serv-

wait

no it isn't.

[long field]

And Alecto telling Zag how much she likes the way He Bleeds

[hardy escarp]

So are the bedroom scenes implying what I think they are or like

[long field]

And that little "You'll break, they always do" from her

[tepid plover]

Yes connor

[hardy escarp]

Figured

[long field]

Yes, Zag does have a little "Playtime"

[tepid plover]

You can see zag zipping his pants right after

[long field]

But it is implied, not explicit

[flat vapor]

they sit there and hold hands and talk about life

[drowsy finch]

Excuse you this is a pagan server

[tepid plover]

they sit there and hold hands and talk about life
Then why were his pants unzipped

[drowsy finch]

he doesn't have a zipper.

[hardy escarp]

what zipper lol

[tepid plover]

Well he does

He does a zipping up animation right after

[long field]

He doesn't have a zipper on those pant tho

[austere jacinth]

Zag is kind of a sub, with a type... mostly. Dusa doesn't fit but the others do xDD

[drowsy finch]

ok this is a bigger question

[long field]

Would he be a Top or Bottom

[drowsy finch]

what the hell was he zipping

[inland leaf]

Bruh I come here from time to time to see what people are chatting about

[hardy escarp]

Imagine bedroom scene with Dusa lel

[inland leaf]

but really?

[hardy escarp]

[long field]

Oh god, he knows what the mood is

Everyone Scatter!

Nobody will know about our collective thirst!

[austere jacinth]

Weeeell, he's canonically a sub. And he seems totally chill with his sexuality, which is refreshing.

[long field]

Also apparently if you get far enough with Pat and Achilles they will give him relationship advice

They basically become relationship councilors

[narrow hemlock]

@flat vapor dunno where you've been looking but there is a bit of poly art

[austere jacinth]

They do. Or at least, Achilles did for me.

[long field]

God, this game is so LGBTQ+ positive

I love it!

[austere jacinth]

Zag spoke to Achilles about being in love with two people and how mortals dealt with love. Achilles told Zag to follow his heart.

[long field]

This is now the best game

[tepid plover]

||https://youtu.be/Z_WaO_fHp-s|| ok nvm is just his belt then

[long field]

Wowowowowowowow

Not looking at that because I think I will withhold

[austere jacinth]

I love all of this game, though it's nice to see the romance options are awesome too.

[long field]

I have been ignoring Meg

Like the entire time

[tepid plover]

So yeha his belt still sketchy too

[drowsy finch]

Hades is very lore friendly.

[long field]

I need to get back with Meg

When I am done with my boy Than

Tender boy Than

[austere jacinth]

Give me the duo scene, game! xDD

[drowsy finch]

I feel like I owe than nectar every time i see him because I just keep ROBBING HIM

[long field]

Supergiant!

Do it in a patch!

[drowsy finch]

poor than.

Every time I see him I get like 20 more kills

[austere jacinth]

Than is a sweetheart.

[long field]

Tender boy

[narrow mauve]

||than is a twink||

[long field]

He is so cold starting out, but he gradually warms up

[austere jacinth]

Not too soft though.

[long field]

And he gets so tender with Zag

[narrow mauve]

I like Hypnos more

[austere jacinth]

I like Than more, but don't get me wrong, I love Hypnos too.

[long field]

I love Hypnos, he goofy cute boy

Though I am more ahem "Attracted" to Thanatos

[hardy escarp]

I don't remember what sub means lol
I'm sooo uncultured

[long field]

Submissive

Bottom

[brisk trail]

Just escaped for the first time ever

[hardy escarp]

oh.

[austere jacinth]

Also, Than and Meg (and... a lot of others) are taller than Zag. Is Hypnos? I'll have to check.

[long field]

Oh, taller than him you say...

No, I must keep it together

Gotta calm down

[brisk trail]

It’s kinda weird that I have already escaped yet I still haven’t met Thanatos

[drowsy finch]

Alright that's it.

[austere jacinth]

Zagreus is slightly sensitive about his height. There's some amusing dialogue with Asterius and Theseus about that.

[drowsy finch]

[hardy escarp]

Mostly Asterius lol

[brisk trail]

Thanatos odds are so terrible

Still haven’t met him

[hardy escarp]

his nickname is literally "Short One"

[brisk trail]

I already escaped

[long field]

They improved those odds, also what run are you on?

[austere jacinth]

Because Theseus is one of the people who isn't taller than Than, and Zag is all 'why am only I the 'short one'?' with Asterius xD

[brisk trail]

42

I think

Switch hasn’t got the update yet

[long field]

Oooooooh

You're on Switch

That makes sense

[austere jacinth]

Than won't come if you're at full health btw.

[brisk trail]

:/

So basically if your amazing at this game you’ll never meet him

[long field]

Don't give up hope, maybe wait for the Patch to come to Switch?

[austere jacinth]

Yeah. He's a fun character, so I hope you meet him soon.

[long field]

He's veeeeery fun

I like his dialogue

And personality

And how he scolds Zagreus

[hardy escarp]

At the start of the game I was like "How do I get Meg and Than to not hate me"

And now here I am

[long field]

Oh they come around

They really come around

[hardy escarp]

Literally uh...

[long field]

Having fun?

[hardy escarp]

Had both of them in my room

[long field]

Well I think I will do more runs because this game is very good and fun, and runs are so consistent in quality

I am going to be using Ares's keepsake for the first time, because I am feeling a Doom Build

Going to level his Keepsake up

[thorn tendon]

First ending / credit sequence get!

[long field]

Good work!

[thorn tendon]

Now to grind up my relationships and get more prophecies and stuff!

[long field]

Just gonna run through Hell and get to the pretty surface

Hopefully I will beat it

I want to get something emotional out of this

[austere jacinth]

||I do wish we could maybe tend the garden a little when we win post-credits||

[long field]

And after I beat it, then that means more runs!

More runs that I am sure can either end in Victory or Failure, and more interaction!

And I am sure there are post game options that will be given to me

[hardy escarp]

@austere jacinth Same!

[austere jacinth]

I would happily pay for DLC that added nothing but MORE INTERACTIONS. xDD

[long field]

They are adding more interactions with Patches for free

[hardy escarp]

That should totally make the ||Garden|| a part of the house contractor's work

[long field]

Bless these Devs

[brisk trail]

Hypnos DLC where we get hundreds of more dialogue with him and we can romance him, all in favor say I.

[austere jacinth]

Give me more on Hermes and Charon's relationship pls.

[quaint hatch]

Would be sick to customize garden

[long field]

Spoiler Tag!

[quaint hatch]

Garden mini game with ||Persephone|| for Ressources

[austere jacinth]

Hypnos doesn't seem like Zag's usual type. Then again, neither does Dusa -shrugs- xDD

[brisk trail]

||Hermes and Charon are actually boyfriends||

[hardy escarp]

Bro Pierced butterfly is perfection

[long field]

Hypnos and Zag do not really have Chemistry, but they do make very good cute friends

[quaint hatch]

Garden is there from the beginning tho

[austere jacinth]

||I don't know if that's ever made explict, but I ship them.||

[long field]

Right

[brisk trail]

Guys I have a question and it’s a spoiler so be warned. ||I heard Lucifer is in this game, why haven’t I seen him? Or is it only an aspect? I beat Hades already btw||

||I'm kinda joking but I put the thing in spoiler tags because someone said to use them about this I think||

[austere jacinth]

||Gun Aspect||

[tepid plover]

Guys I have a question and it’s a spoiler so be warned. ||I heard Lucifer is in this game, why haven’t I seen him? Or is it only an aspect? I beat Hades already btw||
Aspect

[quaint hatch]

He's an aspect

[hardy escarp]

Hypnos is just cute, like in the same way a puppy is cute

[austere jacinth]

Hypnos and Zag do have the same taste in women xDD

[brisk trail]

Hypnos is just cute, like in the same way a puppy is cute
@hardy escarp agreed

You just want to cuddle with it

Hypnos and Zag do have the same taste in women xDD
@austere jacinth you thinking what I’m thinking

[austere jacinth]

I want his duvet-cloak.

[brisk trail]

Hypnos x Meg x Zag

[tepid plover]

I'm really mad you can't visit the garden anymore

[austere jacinth]

I'm happy with the trio I have in game. Then again, more options is always good.

[tepid plover]

I loved the ||sunset||

[brisk trail]

Same

[long field]

Hmmm, who else?

[brisk trail]

I took screenshots

[tepid plover]

Me too

But isnt the same

[brisk trail]

Might make it my wallpaper

[hardy escarp]

22% on pierced butterfly out of Tartarus my dudes

[austere jacinth]

||I'd like to meet Than, or even Hermes, or Charon, up on the surface when I die sometimes.||

[hardy escarp]

Some of the ||Surface stories|| are really gold

like comedy level 100

[thorn tendon]

Wait, if I got the painting

then did I already get teh epilogue???

or is there more

(oh jfdslajf sorry, hope that was vague enough to be not quite a spoiler)

[hardy escarp]

No there's more

[austere jacinth]

||The random deaths are funny. But once in a while, I'd like to see the sunset. Maybe with a psychopomp at my side.||

[thorn tendon]

Oh good, okay 🙂

Besides: I have people to romance! Friendship Nectar to give out! ACHIEVEMENTS!!!

[hardy escarp]

My favorite one is where the guy is like: "A couple of slam dancers jumped him... or something."

[brisk trail]

||you can't go out to the areas of the surface again? but what about the FISH||

[hardy escarp]

Cause I'm like "Wait isn't there supposed to be no escape"

[thorn tendon]

||I think you can? To my knowledge you can? Persephone literally asks you to make sure her garden is OK||

[narrow hemlock]

@brisk trail they spawn ||in the fight area||

[austere jacinth]

||I like him meeting the friendly snake. And the deadly pollen allergy.||

[hardy escarp]

@brisk trail The fish show up on the ||Hades|| Battleground

@thorn tendon You can't.

[brisk trail]

Can we all agree that ||Theseus|| is an a$$.

Dude has such a large ego.

Like first of all your not a god, I am 🔫

[hardy escarp]

Yes

[tepid plover]

Yesh fish will show up in the last arena

[hardy escarp]

literally everyone on the discord can agree on that

[brisk trail]

Dude is such a narcissist.

[tepid plover]

Dude has such a large ego.
Well he did kill the bull for all we know

[brisk trail]

Also the ||Minotaur|| is a simp.

[austere jacinth]

Oh?

[brisk trail]

||Minotaur|| is superior to him idk why he simps for him.

[quaint hatch]

Hands of asterius

[delicate pilot]

hey so are the expensive boons in styx better

or just more expensive

[brisk trail]

I had a harder time fighting the ||Minotaur||

[hardy escarp]

Probably because he pulled him out of hell

[quaint hatch]

Expensive are better yes

[hardy escarp]

@delicate pilot better

[austere jacinth]

||Theseus did save Asterius, and he is a loyal friend. He also plays up that overconfidence. I just had a mini-arc with the pair of them where Theseus is utterly miserable at the idea Asterius likes Zag more. He's downright tearful and insecure xDD.||

[tepid plover]

||Minotaur|| is superior to him idk why he simps for him.
||asterius was sentenced to erebus, but theseus got him, so he's thankful for it||

[raw lantern]

omg my new time!! beat hades second time!

this time 24 min!

[hardy escarp]

@austere jacinth Wait that's an arc that can show up in the game?

[lunar cypress]

Any word on the ||Styx mandrake hot tubs|| being made more..smooth to use during other actions?

[quaint hatch]

@raw lantern Tag pls

[austere jacinth]

||It plays out over several encounters. It's pretty fun. There's one encounter where Theseus just refuses to talk. No showmanship or anything. Just sulky sad Theseus. xD||

[hardy escarp]

bro now I really badly want that to show up

[slender linden]

wild guess but it ||might be tied to unlocking the secret aspect from the Minotaur? maybe?? it'd make sense if it was||

[hardy escarp]

I've used that like 10 times

[austere jacinth]

||Nah, this was before I got Gilga||

[hardy escarp]

still has not showed up yet

[slender linden]

||gotta talk to them then, i guess||

[austere jacinth]

I still gotta trigger the ||Ariadne|| dialogues with them myself.

[hardy escarp]

Whaaaat are you guys talking about lol

I'm to the point where Theseus is giving me practically empty dialogue, he just says a few "You won't make it past elysium" Sort of things before the fight and then we fight

[austere jacinth]

||If you encounter them while you have the yarn of Ariadne, you get some dialogue where Asterius is a little defensive of his half-sister while Theseus... did what he did. Much to the judgement/glee of Dio in the end.||

[tepid plover]

I'm to the point where Theseus is giving me practically empty dialogue, he just says a few "You won't make it past elysium" Sort of things before the fight and then we fight
Yeah hes exhausted

[slender linden]

he picks up at some point i guess, cause he seemed pretty exhausted to me as well, but then randomly i got this arc too

[ashen shore]

Just a random question cause I checked the FAQ to not seem like an idiot, but will Hades be receving post v1.0 launch content updates?

[quaint hatch]

Probably not

Nothing concrete know

From SGG's history it's highly unlikely

[hardy escarp]

I mean he recently started giving me some new dialogue but that was just EM

[ashen shore]

oke, was just wondering

[slender linden]

also good to know about the ||yarn. honestly knowing mythology i should've expected it'd be acknowledged xD||

[tepid plover]

[hardy escarp]

Wow Theseus and the Mino feel easy after EM lol

[tepid plover]

I disagree lol

I find em3 easier

Since the guy isn't randomly throwing spears

[quaint hatch]

F yeah champs with -44% move speed from chaos

[hardy escarp]

Okay that makes sense coming from Dionysus

since he's always drunk

[tepid plover]

[hardy escarp]

Jk Jk

[tepid plover]

I find the fight much easier since I can just focus the bull while the other one is just running around doing nothing

Yeah the bull gets scarier, but is easier to focus

[hardy escarp]

well him throwing bombs around the arena is scary as hell

those do a crap ton of damage

[tepid plover]

He throws the bombs mostly on the outer edge

Just stay inside

When he goes thru the middle, then go outside

The bombs take like 4 seconds to land lol

So you can easily dodge them as well

Thats just from my personal experience

The only thing that should hurt you from him, is the widespread machine gun

And those do like 3 dmg

[hardy escarp]

well If ur using melee he can also

[brisk trail]

[hardy escarp]

literally run u over

[tepid plover]

Well if you stand right in front of him

But why

You even do backstab dmg

Giving you even more reasons to stay behind him

Unless you have greater reflex and are you just spamming space bar, then yeah you're probably going to end up in front of him

Thats just my opinion idk, I find the em3 to be easier

[hardy escarp]

Customer loyalty is actually impossible

I have been through 74 runs and have not once seen flame wheels release

[tepid plover]

Rng

Sadly

Not impossible

I have it

[ocean kayak]

Mr. Darren Korb, please accept a million praises for this soundtrack

the guitar starting up in the King and the Bull lights my nerves on fire in a good way

[tepid plover]

😩

[hardy escarp]

So I kind of hate aspect of Guan Yu

But imma do a run with it anyway lel

[indigo canopy]

||FINALLY BEAT HADES LETS MF GOOOOOOOOO 31ST RUN WOOOO||

[flat vapor]

congrats!

[tepid plover]

Now go do it again

[indigo canopy]

my beautiful window :'

[mortal flax]

what would your strats for a speedrun be?

[tepid plover]

Be fast

NYOOOOOM

[indigo canopy]

speedy

hermes trinket

hermes boons all day every day

[hardy escarp]

BEOOOOOOOOOW

[flat vapor]

pause whenever you're thinking so the in-game timer doesn't go down

[indigo canopy]

hermes trinket is the only one besides chaos that doesnt affect boon rarity, kinda cool

although chaos does too, but it also removes the life toll

[flat vapor]

turn on EM2 (the smaller arena makes the fight faster), turn on FO2 (enemies spawn faster), don't turn on TD if you want to use the in-game timer (since TD disables survival rooms, which pause the timer)

[tepid plover]

hermes trinket is the only one besides chaos that doesnt affect boon rarity, kinda cool
Uh?

[flat vapor]

chaos and shops go by very fast, npc rooms pause the timer

[tepid plover]

Chaos keepsake does affect rarity

[indigo canopy]

although chaos does too, but it also removes the life toll

it does more than just affect boon rarity

[tepid plover]

Ah

[hardy escarp]

Well the olympian keepsakes also make the next one that shows up theirs

[tepid plover]

^

So it does more than rarity

[indigo canopy]

mfw when || i hav to beat the game twice to get the perse trinket||

[tepid plover]

Haha he said twice

[indigo canopy]

i hope, for every other character its meet them twice and then you can give them nectar

[tepid plover]

Not in this case

[hardy escarp]

Lmao twice

[indigo canopy]

pain.

[hardy escarp]

[indigo canopy]

[long field]

God my last run just ended in the worst most frustrating way

I was in a Room with Than

[tepid plover]

[long field]

And the reward for beating it was nectar

I both missed out on an opportunity to get more nectar and an opportunity to talk to than and give him nectar

[tepid plover]

F

[long field]

Gonna need to sit back and calm down for this one

Was kinda angry, and now I am upset that I wasn't paying attention to what Achilles was saying

I wish I payed more attention

[tepid plover]

Hes your mentor for a reason

[long field]

I think the dialouge I got was about Achilles looking out for Zag as he rummages through Hades's room

[flat vapor]

just Quit, it'll put you back to when you walked out of the pool

[indigo canopy]

is there any easier way to get gemstones than ||fishing and prophecies?|| its seems like coming across a room every once in a while and only getting 5 is a bit too little

[tepid plover]

Wait are you talking in the house?

is there any easier way to get gemstones than ||fishing and prophecies?|| its seems like coming across a room every once in a while and only getting 5 is a bit too little
Later in the game ||dark thirst and bosses give you more gems with the contractor upgrades||

[hardy escarp]

||The bosses contractor upgrade reaaally helps||

[indigo canopy]

so expensivvvvvvvve

||diamonds arent easy to come by smh||

[long field]

With all this HADES, I am in a mood which is wishing I didn't suck at video games

I used to not suck

But now I do

[brisk trail]

||Will Zagreus make a funny comment if the satyr sack is down the last path you check?||

[indigo canopy]

is the ||vanquishers keep the contractor upgrade for gemstones||

[hardy escarp]

@indigo canopy I think so yeah

[long field]

Also, I am in a mood wondering what I even want for my next HADES run?

What would be fun?

What am I in the mood for playing with?

Might I finally come around on the Bow?

[hardy escarp]

Go with....

Fists

[long field]

I have gone with the Fists multiple times!

[ashen vessel]

YEAA FISTS

[long field]

They are very fun, but I need variety

[hardy escarp]

||Aspect of Gilg|| if you have it

[long field]

I do not

[hardy escarp]

Hmmm try Aegis then?

[ashen vessel]

oo dash striking with shield is super fun

[indigo canopy]

i dislike rail

[long field]

I do not like the Shield

I do not like the Dash Strike

[indigo canopy]

i fell like a gun doesnt really fit into the environment

[long field]

Well guns are awesome, so wrong

[indigo canopy]

just doesnt feel right

[hardy escarp]

The gun in this game is...

wrong I feel like

[indigo canopy]

exactly

i think a rapid fire aspect for bow would make more sense

[long field]

GUN

[hardy escarp]

nein

[long field]

Yes

[hardy escarp]

Go with the bow

[long field]

Funny Gunny

Also, yeah maybe I will do a proper bow run

For like the first time

I think Artemis Boons would be good, what do you think?

[hardy escarp]

yeah they're pretty good

Also Ares

[long field]

Ares boons are generally good

Only problem is I am very concerned with Ares's personality

I will choose the Artemis keepsake for this run

Besides, I miss Artemis

Haven't spoken with her in a while, I miss it

[ashen vessel]

do it up good luck and have fun

[tepid plover]

My phone just autocorrected build to bouldy and im glad

[remote forge]

Artemis doesn't really miss you, don't worry

[median crystal]

Any mod to save mid-run, rather than minimizing?

[remote forge]

She's just like that.

[tepid plover]

Game saves mid run

[median crystal]

haha omg

50 runs in just assumed it didn't

[tepid plover]

There is a save symbol on the top right

Everytime you see it

It saves

Usually when you pick up a boon or enter a new room

[hardy escarp]

Howwww do I unlock patroclus and Achilles's hearts

[tepid plover]

||you get them together||

[hardy escarp]

And sisyphus for that matter

How do I do that bro

[flat vapor]

max out their nectar hearts and keep talking to them

start putting nectar in nyx too, she's a bottleneck for a lot of these quests

and have the admin chamber unlocked

[tepid plover]

Yeha just talk to them

A lot

Eventually they will tell you what you have to do

[round herald]

Does going through a shop count as an encounter for the purpose of getting rid of a chaos curse?

[brisk trail]

"Well, time to go get killed again."

[tepid plover]

Does going through a shop count as an encounter for the purpose of getting rid of a chaos curse?
@round herald no

It tells you in the boon, encounters are specifically a room with enemies

Shop room is a chamber

Not an encounter

[hardy escarp]

Which would you say is the best ||Companion||

[tepid plover]

||shady||

||||

[hardy escarp]

I haven't gotten him yet lolll

[tepid plover]

F

Also, not the best, just the one I like

They all do their job

[hardy escarp]

Out of the ones I have I'm very into ||Mort||

[tepid plover]

I hate it

Takes too long

But if you can get the timing is good

If I need the dmg ill just take ||battie|| since is pretty much guaranteed

[indigo canopy]

does sourcing materials get a lot easier through contracting work?

[hardy escarp]

It absolutely destroys Theseus and the Mino

Eats up a phase of Redacted too

[hollow lagoon]

who is

||shady??||

also

||who is battie||

[hardy escarp]

Like which person does it come from?

[long field]

The Bow is actually really fun!

[hollow lagoon]

yeah and wut they do

[long field]

Too bad I still suck!

[hardy escarp]

||Battie comes from Meg once you unlock her heart meter, and does 2500 damage in a line. Idk about Shady tho||

[long field]

Though this run was interesting, got to talk and give nectar to Than, that is always good, and I got the other interaction with Aphrodite and Artemis

[hollow lagoon]

||what shady do||

[tepid plover]

@hollow lagoon they are ||companions||

[hollow lagoon]

i know

i got two already

[long field]

It was like "Look at uncivilized Artemis here!" and she was like "I am not uncivilized!"

[hollow lagoon]

XD

[long field]

Also Thanatos has me drooling from the mouth again

[tepid plover]

||shady makes sisyphus drop on top of someone dealing 1k, and leaving gold, healing and darkness||

[long field]

He is at the house right now, I will give him Nectar again and talk to him more

[hollow lagoon]

aaah

||how do i get sisphus hearts unlocked||

[quaint hatch]

Quest
Rng dialogue from nyx, hades and someone else, forgot who lol

[tepid plover]

Than and meg

[quaint hatch]

Then you ||pick up a contract at administrative and void it at house contractor||

[tepid plover]

In the name of Hades!

[quaint hatch]

wow that's almost like my name huh

[tepid plover]

No

[modest scroll]

I usually get Than every other run and I have had FOUR consecutive runs without him ever since I equipped his companion

I know it's most likely just coincidence but does that have something to do with it?

[quaint hatch]

Random

Completely random

Two shots

[hardy escarp]

Here we go boys

EM3

[vagrant hinge]

cryin bc i jus beat final boss for th first time n unlocked more story

[flat vapor]

congrats!!!

how was it 👀

[vagrant hinge]

😭

i want MORE

[tepid plover]

Did you just random twice

[flat vapor]

then it's time to win again

[quaint hatch]

Happened randomly

[vagrant hinge]

but i'm so bad at th game

[tepid plover]

[hardy escarp]

Guys I'm starting to get blank dialogue from everybody

[long field]

Oh no!

How did that happen?

[vagrant hinge]

literally my spouse got th game on switch n beat final boss for th first time in like. a week. i didn't escape until attempt 118

[quaint hatch]

Bad luck

[tepid plover]

How did that happen?
Eventually it happens

I'm there already

[long field]

That's sad

[tepid plover]

Well yes

[hardy escarp]

No I just mean the dialogue is like a single sentence

[long field]

Though it can't keep going on forever

[tepid plover]

Was a fun road tho

Correct

[hardy escarp]

Not necessarily nothing, but pretty much blank

[tepid plover]

Yes

[long field]

All good things must come to an end

[tepid plover]

Thats recycled dialogue

[long field]

But here, you can just start it all again!

[quaint hatch]

Can't have infinite dialogue

[tepid plover]

Just start a new save

[quaint hatch]

Hell mode time

[tepid plover]

[long field]

What is that?

[quaint hatch]

It's hell but more hell-ish

Alternate mode
Gives you pact from the beginning and makes the base game a bit harder

[tepid plover]

Is like the hard version of the game

If you want a challenge

[quaint hatch]

I mean
Who would want that?

[flat vapor]

hell mode is literally just early-game difficulty

in late-game it manifests as modifier inflexibility

[quaint hatch]

Doesn't it also take some base stuff away/adds negative stuff?

[tepid plover]

It removes the impervious when something big hits you

Which is kind of a big deal

[flat vapor]

Onyx "Cast Build!" Cicada09/22/2020
Hell Mode:

• Sets your minimum Heat at 5
• Forces 5 conditions on the player
• Grants a Hell Mode-only condition: Personal Liability - Gets rid of the invulnerability shield that pops when you take a large burst of damage (this is included in the forced 5 conditions above)
• You can never take these conditions off

[quaint hatch]

Thanx

[hardy escarp]

Okay I definitely unlocked that Theseus sadness arc now

[flint rune]

i love The Unseen Ones so much

||hades|| has every right to go that hard on the soundtrack

[hardy escarp]

One of my favorite lines from Theseus is when you use Ares's ||call|| and Theseus goes: "Oh how typical Lord Ares!"