#h1-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 902

sterile coyote Oct 13, 2020, 4:38 AM

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What about maps they have to scale down because Switch can't handle it

narrow hemlock Oct 13, 2020, 4:39 AM

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i dont own a switch so i couldnt tell you but i dont think theres any different maps

fierce jackal Oct 13, 2020, 4:42 AM

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What's the absolute maximum possible boons from a run?

sterile coyote Oct 13, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Heroic

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 4:55 AM

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woo! finally beat ||hades|| with ||guan yu||!

drowsy finch Oct 13, 2020, 4:57 AM

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CongaScout CongaPyro CongaEngie CongaSoldier

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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aaaand i just realised theres a specific channel for victory boasts, lol

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just as much a sigh of relief as a boast this time though ><

noble marsh Oct 13, 2020, 5:02 AM

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This is been kinda driving me nuts. For dozens of runs now, I return to the house to see the contractor with the 'super !' (the one with the starburst around it), but every time I check it, there is nothing there that's new, at all. What does it want of me?! lol

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 5:06 AM

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not new, just stuff on the main list that you can afford

zealous flare Oct 13, 2020, 5:12 AM

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yeah, its probably just because you can afford one of the ||UIs||

noble marsh Oct 13, 2020, 5:41 AM

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@zealous flare any place where I can see the result before actually spending the resources? lol

flat vapor Oct 13, 2020, 5:41 AM

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you could scroll through the #h1-victory-boasting channel

noble marsh Oct 13, 2020, 5:43 AM

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I just bought one of them, entered my room and exited, and it's back, lol...

dire coyote Oct 13, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Is there a keepsake that guarantees a hammer at the start of a run like the gods have for their boons?

zealous flare Oct 13, 2020, 5:45 AM

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yeah i thought the same thing, there's not really a great preview for them

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but theyre all different resources right

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like the idea is youre just going to get all of them once you get more resources than you know what to do with

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@dire coyote no

noble marsh Oct 13, 2020, 5:45 AM

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yeah, it's still happening after buying one of them...I don't need to buy all of them to get it to go away, do I? lol

zealous flare Oct 13, 2020, 5:45 AM

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there is no keepsake that has any kind of interaction with daedalyus

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i think so

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it will be there for as many as you have the resources to buy

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i think theyre considered like "main" upgrades

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so it will give you the alert when there is something there

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 5:49 AM

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yeah, it's still happening after buying one of them...I don't need to buy all of them to get it to go away, do I? lol
@noble marsh thats gonna be there as long as you have something that you can purchase in the work orders tab

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work orders are gameplay stuff

noble marsh Oct 13, 2020, 5:49 AM

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oh, I see

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 5:49 AM

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surprised they kept decorative themes in there

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but yeah

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it will go away once theres nothing purchasable or affordable in the work orders

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i had to buy the themes cause it was triggering me

noble marsh Oct 13, 2020, 5:52 AM

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purchasable OR afforable lol

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got it

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 5:53 AM

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yeah, if you cant afford anything it will go away

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until you can

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 5:56 AM

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What do the themes do? I can’t even tell a difference

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 5:58 AM

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does hunter dash dash strike also work on the fists dash special?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:02 AM

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What do the themes do? I can’t even tell a difference
they change your boon/victory menu

worn umbra Oct 13, 2020, 6:02 AM

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what's the highest heat that you can get bounties for

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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you get bounty for every single heat

worn umbra Oct 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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like

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even the ridiculously high ones?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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yes?

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every single heat level has the same bounties

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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yep you keep getting blood/diamonds for each heat level

worn umbra Oct 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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like 50?
wow

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:03 AM

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yeah

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:04 AM

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i mean, if you want to max out every weapon you're gonna want to get those rewards each time 🙂

worn umbra Oct 13, 2020, 6:04 AM

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i thought it stopped at like 20

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:04 AM

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no lol

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:04 AM

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nope

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:04 AM

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it never stops

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until 63

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which is the highest max heat

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:06 AM

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After a certain point I don’t think you can do much with the rewards

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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i mean, the blood is always useful (unless you just like the 1-2 weapons/aspects in which case you max them pretty quick)

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:09 AM

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After you max all I mean

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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hold on

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this is misinformation

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you can only get bounties 20 times per weapon

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Technically 21 because it starts at heat 0

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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ah true

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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oh, right

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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But the cap for bounties should be 20

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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yep

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bounties are capped at 20 heat

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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my bad - i was wrong, sorry about that

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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now you can set the heat higher than that and still get bounties

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but only up till the 20 heat bounty

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(just because a clear at, say, 32 heat counts for the 14 heat bounty for instance)

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(if you already had the 13 heat bounty that is)

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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You really don't need more than 240 blood anyway

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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yeah its really excess, and if you absolutely NEED more you can always trade up for it

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at a certain point keys become pretty useless for instance

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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i am sorry about the missinformation

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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and there are other ways to get more, i.e. ||styx shop|| and ||Surface fishing||

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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didnt know

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so do you just get darkness as bounty after 20?

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Yep

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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that sucks

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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no wait hang on

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:13 AM

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you should get a boon

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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weapons are 5+15+16+15 per
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times six is 306 blood for all aspects

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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At that point it doesn't really matter what you get cause you should have basically everything maxed out

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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that's not counting themes or stuff

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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@raven lava so

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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thats why i said a boon

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not currency

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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so two blood per bounty level

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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i do have everything maxed out pretty much

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:14 AM

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times 21 bounties

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times six weapons

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is only 252

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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42*6 yes

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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you need to get 54 blood from other sources

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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but prophecies. fishing. charon.broker

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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some of that is prophecy

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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yeah theres a slight gap, but generally the difference isnt hard to make up

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Why does Maim need to buff enemies ;~;

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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cause it debuffs them

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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i'd imagine the vast majority of players will have maxed all weapons

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before reaching the bounty cap

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without really trying

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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@raven lava and tbh u dint need to max all weap

inner fossil Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Golden Touch has ended up being awesome. Feel like I always have 1100+ gold going into Styx

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:15 AM

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it'll annoy me if i don't

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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i havent clear a single heat 20 yet and i am maxed in weapons

inner fossil Oct 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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And that still allows me to buy some health, rare boons, fishies, or gates

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Golden Touch needs a lot of yourself denying any shops early which can help you out though

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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^

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as long as you dont shop, golden touch is amazing

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especially if you start with coin purse and find sisyphus early

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Whereas Deep Pockets gives you basically as much gold as Golden Touch would throughout the run, without having to be cheap

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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lol no

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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@tepid plover i prefer early boost for reliable end

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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to each their own

inner fossil Oct 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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It's also sweet when you run into the Daedalus that turns money into damage

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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im not missing out on anything most of the time

inner fossil Oct 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Like, really buttering my biscuit

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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i think only sword has that hammer though

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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If Golden Touch was instead a % boost to money, or maybe a flat but assured amount per tier...then I could see it

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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which if you're running any other weapon for the dark thirst won't happen

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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im really sad, i can only use my dakrness for a crappy badge, i really expected i could buy like an extra boon at the beginning with some high amount of darkness

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Sadly not

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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make it actually matter

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Im at a point where I regularly win my bounties without trying hard so I golden touch to save up for the Styx blood/diamond and only spend it on darkness/gems along the way

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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i think they wanted to make a "maxed" build cheaper/acquired earlier

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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No third mirror tier or additional talents either :P

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:18 AM

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probably so that everyone is on the "same playing ground" at some point

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like they reduced the costs of a lot of the late mirror upgrades

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i'd imagine so players max out gameplay bonuses earlier

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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cause even when the resource director is maxed, then darkness is completely useless, making killing bosses not rewarding

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Eh, i don’t think I they wanted to lock any gameplay advantage behind hundreds of hours of grinding

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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yeah thats my point

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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well isnt like im hurting anyone else

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game is singleplayer

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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It’s all pointless in the end

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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sure, but people like to share victory screens/speedrun times/high heat clears/whatever

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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that can still happen?

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I think its less locking behind a gameplay advantage and more just "I want more goodies to unlock"

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I mean it’s kind of like playing an rpg with a max level

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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and while yeah you can just copy over the savefile of someone who's maxed the game

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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It’s gotta stop somewhere (usually)

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i dont think thats part of the intende dgameplay experience lmao

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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you can simply share speedrunning rules

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i definitely wouldnt mind more goodies though!

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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like not buying it

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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i dont really like the idea of spending resources in-run to unlock a temporary advantage for that run, honestly

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Eh, wouldnt have to be temporary ones

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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i think the only thing that does that is ||bouldy||? and its so minor

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Just gimme a "boon slot" or something

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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then make it so bosses give a boon or something else, like for me right now, killing a boss is literally non rewarding

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Or a hammer reroll ability

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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a boss should give some superior stuff

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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they do

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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not after 20 apparently

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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they give a significant amount of health restoration with the right mirror

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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unless you have all the bounties done which at that point wow

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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that mirror sucks imo, i rather have a constant 3 per room

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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they give a significant amount of health restoration with the right mirror
you hardly need that since there's a fountain RIGHT THERE

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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especially in styx

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what karpin said too

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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If they update the game, it would be cool to let us customize runs in great detail like pick specific boons, hammers, Special modifiers thy normally aren’t available, etc. They could gate that behind resource costs

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Yeah the 3 per room is pretty much the objectively better one, even if its minor

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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^

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it really is

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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3 per room adds up

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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if youre playing on high heat, a fountain will very rarely restore you to full

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unless you have strong drink

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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darkness is too situation

raven lava Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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same reason ||pom blossom|| is good in styx

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Then the competitive speed runners can play “standard” but we could use excess resources to customize runs for fun

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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admittedly styx is a disadvantage of heal-for-darkness rather than heal-by-room, yeah

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but at high heat, elysium is scarier than styx anyway

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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id gladly take a boon over darkness, especially at high heat, which is where it happens the most

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:23 AM

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(though at high enough heat you don't get ANY healing besdes SD)

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(so, meh)

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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That sounds awful

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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An extra boon (or three in this case) has the potential to be very significant in high heat, so I don't think it would be good. If you're uo to 20 heat, you also probably don't need any rare resource anymore. Getting golden laurel rewards at bosses really breaks the balance imo

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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i guess the thing is

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IMO thej game doesnt need to be easier

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and giving 3 free boons per run would make the game a lot easier

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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it doesnt

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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As a side note, the badges cost 300k darkness in total

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Why not give options for those who want it tho?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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but the badge sucks, thats my point, they couldve done something else tbh

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Besides God Mode which is its own thing

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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something cooler

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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because if those options exist, it'll be the "standard" to use them

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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not just something on the bottom right of my screen i ever see anyway

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Have em not applicable to leaderboards or something then

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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like the devs have to balance to what a player can be expected to have

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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You're at 20 heat, you're already cool for getting there

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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devs arent balancing assuming youre not buying extra DDs from the mirror

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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because if those options exist, it'll be the "standard" to use them
you can always make rules

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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I would imagine if they gave us options to customize runs they could also do like daily challenges with leaderboards and stuff

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A lot of people would pay for something like that

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Well not cool because that's a lot of heat

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:25 AM

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my point is from a balance perspective

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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is a single player game bro

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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^

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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youre not hurting anyone

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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i mean, every single patch since early access has come with balance changes

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so the devs clearly care

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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yes

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but isnt like 3 extra boons will kill the game

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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speaking of god mode - its a shame you can't "lock" it in at a specific %

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:26 AM

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i'll never use it because i dont have that option

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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i guess i see killing bosses as enough of an intrinsic reward

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to not need an external motivator

tribal glade Oct 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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but i'd be tempted to try it if i could just lock it in

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:27 AM

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in most games, most especifially roguelikes, killing a boss is rewarding

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with a powerful item

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in slay the spire you even have boss specific relics

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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i never really felt like killing a boss "wasnt satisfying"

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personally

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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I see what he's saying though

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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like between the chance to use the fountain, change your keepsake, go shopping

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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well satisfying and rewarding isnt the same thing

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Past bounties its a big downgrade

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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like killing a boss for bounties is rewarding

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after that

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it just sucks

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especially darkness lol

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give me some gems at least

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for house cosmetic

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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it does

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Or gold

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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not the stupid contractor item

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Or even some max HP

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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that gives close to nothing lol

unkempt sleet Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Having boons at the boss would effectively invalidate UC at high hear, so I don't think that's a good idea

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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I rather have the darkness

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:29 AM

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and you have o unlock it

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:30 AM

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it gives a significant amount for later bosses

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and youll definitely unlock it by the time youre done your bounties lmao

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:30 AM

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If you are going for 100% then I think darkness is the biggest grind

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Let us earn pets from bosses

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Cosmetics

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Have Zag wear a mini Lernie on his head

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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i go for 100% I in fact have everything i want. the badge just seem underwhelming

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it has no presence at all

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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i mean it feels like youre discussing two separate things

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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they both go together

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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one that darkness seems useless lategame, the other that killing bosses feels unrewarding to you

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and yeah theyre connected but

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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It would be pretty cool to have different “skins” for zag I guess, even just recolors

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:31 AM

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killing bosses feels unrewarding cause it gives me darkness which is useless late game

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is literally the same topic

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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The Kid skin, turns the Stygian Blade into the hammer

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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it just feels like we're ping-ponging; do you want darkness to have more uses or do you want bosses to offer a different reward?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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they explained why no skin

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Hitbox problems?

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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or would you be fine with either?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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either or

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would be fine

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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@lunar cypress animation difficulties

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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That's fair

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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every weapon, aspect, etc is individually animated

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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either give darkness meaning late game, or make bosses give something good

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yeah the game is 2d

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:32 AM

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adding skins would require them to

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reanimate

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everything

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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they cant really add skins

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Yeah its true its not just a 3D model

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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kind of a shame but it makes sense

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Forgot bout that

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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it just feels like we're ping-ponging; do you want darkness to have more uses or do you want bosses to offer a different reward?
you cant make a late game feature give you an early game currency, it literally makes no sense

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make the badge bigger lmao

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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i like the badge as-is

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it feels like its sort of meant to be "stupidly opulent" if that makes sense

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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A recolor wouldn’t require more animations but yeah

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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i dont like it at all, it feels the same, unlike the themes

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:34 AM

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like in the dialogue where the resource director is introduced

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its introduced in the context where

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it does absolutely nothing

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and this is played off as a subtle joke

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like "you should pay your employer for no reason"

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i think the gaudiness is part of the irony

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but yeah i wouldnt mind bosses having more in-run rewards i guess, i just never really felt what you're feeling

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regarding bosses being unrewarding

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Bosses drop 5 max hp

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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lmfao

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Boss drops onion please

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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^

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Lmao

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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now thats what im talking about

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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thatd make it a lot easier to complete the codex

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!!

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Is there an appropriate channel for suggestions or bug reports?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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helpme with my codex

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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No banne dusa

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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f10

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Yeah I still need like 3 more onions

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Let us fry the onion in asphodel

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Is there an appropriate channel for suggestions or bug reports?
f10 in game

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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@viscid axle You can press f10 ingame !

lunar cypress Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Bloomin' onion

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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LET US FRY THE FISHES IN ASPHODEL

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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but #h1-tech-support is also a place to get help @viscid axle

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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the only thing i have left in codex is ||Chaos fish|| i think

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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id gladly burn all my knuckleheads

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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oh also a couple of the ||chthonic companions||

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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im only missing the onion and greece fish

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i should probably get around to maxing that out

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Ugh I literally only gotten a chaos fish once

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:37 AM

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everytime i win theres no fish

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:37 AM

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I had a fishing lure show up in Charon well today while chaos portal was up and I stupidly didn’t buy it

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I was kicking myself

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:37 AM

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altf4 lol

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zaglol

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blood and darkness

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:38 AM

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but #h1-tech-support is also a place to get help @viscid axle
@fading gazelle Thanks, i like how many channels there are

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:38 AM

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it's very convenient squirtnya

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:40 AM

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On a non-bug related note, i was thinking it would be really handy for players to track perks better if there was perhaps a "passive" note on boons that cant be upgrade in the Lv. sense. Subtle and helps when evaluating paths and rewards.

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i.e. chaos, bouldy, etc boons

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:41 AM

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That would be nice. I've picked up a few poms before trying to level a god boon that i didn't realise couldn't be leveled

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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same

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once with no other boons 😩

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couldnt use

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:42 AM

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I didn’t think you could get a Pom if you didn’t have any boons that can be leveled

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:43 AM

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I've had ||infernal troves|| offer me them when i didn't have any boons at all

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Also i think i had one pop up in a shop

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:43 AM

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@raven meteor arent troves are just money or darkness?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Troves dont give poms?

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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You can get a nectar from a trove if you clear it fast enough I think?

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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infernal challenges i presume

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Sorry, not trove. Forgot what the thing is called that needs heat to enter

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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@woeful finch not fast just random

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but it's not vintage

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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You can get a nectar from a trove if you clear it fast enough I think?
That nectar can't level up

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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regular nectar]

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Oh ok maybe it will roll an Erebus Pom

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Haven’t seen it

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:44 AM

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What

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:45 AM

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But I’ve never seen a Pom (or even a nectar for that matter) offered when I didn’t have an eligible boon

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Also, is it just me or is the secondary reward for picking things up completely inconsistent? For example, darkness from bosses gives 5 max hp, but the gemstones don't give obel?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Lmfao

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Thatd be cool actually

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If the gemstones gave you 20 gold

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:45 AM

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The secondary reward typically applies if it’s a room reward

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Darkness from bosses is a room reward when you’ve already claimed the bounty, but the gems aren’t

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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@raven meteor contratctor upgrades work only for room rewards

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Itd be a lot cooler tho

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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I had assumed the gemstones count as room rewards, too...

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Pump up golden touch

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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But idk, because I’m pretty sure the nectar you get from poseidon(?) boom gives you the contractor bonus

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Pos cant give nectar

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Dionys' boon gives nectar

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:46 AM

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@tepid plover can sometimes

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Yes I can

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Oh yeah dio

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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dusa

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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But idk, because I’m pretty sure the nectar you get from poseidon(?) boom gives you the contractor bonus
@woeful finch if they are supposed to mines bugged cause it doesnt

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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boon for random reward can give nectar sometimes

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Is dio who gives nectar

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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I might be mistaken I jsut thought I saw it

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Not pos

fleet zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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im guessing if i want to replace a main boon slot, its faster to purge it than to get luck and roll a replacement boon?

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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but it also basic nectar

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not vintage

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Jiku, yes

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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^

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:47 AM

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What's the difference?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Lower chance

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Simple

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Lol

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Is easier to get it as a normal reward, than as a replacement

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Also, if you purge it, you can get some gold for it

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Although the replacement rarity is clutch

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But it might not happen

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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But if you purge it, you're not guaranteed to have the replacement be same level with a higher rarity

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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@raven meteor yes

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Correct

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Thats why i said it

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Actually, you're guaranteed to have a level 1 boon

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Youre guaranteed to have a higher rarity boon

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As a replacement

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Replacing also keeps the levels though

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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pure profit

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:49 AM

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True

woeful finch Oct 13, 2020, 6:50 AM

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I wouldn’t purge if it’s been leveled

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:50 AM

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But the thing is, is harder to get the replacement you want

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 6:50 AM

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so i have a fate saying to get the contractors to do stuff with the lounge but... I've purchased many many things now and cleaned it up and etc and it still hasn't been fulfilled, am I missing something? Do I need to wait for a conversation with dusa to happen?

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Eh, if it's something like a doom boon for attack on your spear/sword, it might be worth purging for something else

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 6:50 AM

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@pseudo onyx yes

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:50 AM

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He said especifically he was looking for something else

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Meaning he doesnt want it

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So yeah purging might make it easier

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:52 AM

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You'd need an extremely high level bad boon to consider not selling it in the hopes of a better but random boon

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:52 AM

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SO, turns out the Stygian sword hammer upgrade "Double Nova" synergizes really well with Poseidon's upgrade to the same skill. retaining your knockback

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Just like the double strike from shield also keeps the knockback

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:54 AM

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noted

crisp zodiac Oct 13, 2020, 6:54 AM

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They take away the weapon's innate knockback, but the knockback from the boon is seperate.

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:54 AM

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big shield fan

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Shield is my 2nd fav

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Love the chaos one

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:55 AM

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they should do a poll, or better yet just release the pick rate per weapon per run for the playerbase

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:55 AM

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I really don't like the shield tbh... Not enough dps

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:55 AM

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thatd be neat

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:55 AM

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I really don't like the shield tbh... Not enough dps
That just depends on your boons lol

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Not really the weapon

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Hey zag

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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they should do a poll, or better yet just release the pick rate per weapon per run for the playerbase
@viscid axle chances are the worse weapons will be chosen more since people want those rewards and to complete the game 100%

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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excluding data pre unlocking all weapons of course

barren ocean Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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My fastest clear time is on Aegis

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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I mean, the same boon would increase my DPS more on a different weapon than the shield

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Not really

barren ocean Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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^

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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It depends on hammers and everything

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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@viscid axle chances are the worse weapons will be chosen more since people want those rewards and to complete the game 100%
@brisk trail that in itself is still interesting

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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For example my favorite is the fists but I get the rewards quite easily with it so I have to keep retrying with the crappy ones like the bow

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Quite a few boons increase damage By %

barren ocean Oct 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Also the different specials the shield gives can be super high dmg

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Like ares strike with the stacking doom, can give you more dmg on shield with double strike, than on sword with big chop

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It all comes down to your current build

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Thats why there's no best weapon or aspect

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It just depends on what you get in your run

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Fists are OP

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:58 AM

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thanthink

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Debatable

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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All weapons are op

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Agreed

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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I disagree

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Unfortunate

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Unless your counting boons

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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A shame

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Boons can help

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Boons are a core part of gameplay...

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Boons is what decide

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Without Boons the spear is horrible

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Without boons anything is horrible

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 6:59 AM

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I disagree

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Swan can disagree

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They've done boonless runs

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Ok

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Nvm

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Didn't even know that was possible

granite ether Oct 13, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Boonless runs are quite hard

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Like not winning, but actually not getting any boons

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:00 AM

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VERY hard

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:00 AM

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I would never give up the chance of getting a Boon

barren ocean Oct 13, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Hold up

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Did you just say Varatha is horrible

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Yeah same zag

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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My phone keeps autocorrecting Boon for Boob 😭

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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I reroll my obols and centaur hearts for boons

barren ocean Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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LOL

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Nice dusa

barren ocean Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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All weapons are good and fun once you get used to em

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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The trinket that gives damage bonus to boonless things can make boonless spear great

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Shattered Shackle

barren ocean Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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I'd never go boonless tho

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Sisyphus is just amazing all around

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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@raven meteor and lucky hammer and chaos stuff

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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I love shady

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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My favorite items are the shield and fists

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 7:01 AM

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My fav is spear and bow

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:02 AM

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That's a fair opinion

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I love all weapons

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:02 AM

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My favorite items are the shield and fists
Same, just not in that order

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Since finding meme and niche builds are so much fun

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:02 AM

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I’m really bad with the spear and bow

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 7:02 AM

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I'm best with spear and not horrid with bow, and terrible with most other weapons

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Trying to get better at them

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:02 AM

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You fight from a distance?

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I prefer close range.

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:03 AM

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That's a nice opinion

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 7:03 AM

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I use spear attack

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:03 AM

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But spear is melee

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So...

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Spear is like Thor’s hammer

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 7:03 AM

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It keeps enemies at a very comfortable range where i can do significant damage with minimal risk

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:03 AM

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You throw it and it comes flying back

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Like a boomerang

raven meteor Oct 13, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Special is useful against lernie, but otherwise the only time i use it is when i'm too far away to melee

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Anyone else feel bad for Sisyphus?

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:04 AM

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I do

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I also feel bad for hypnos

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Whenever I see him I feel bad

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Hypnos deserved more love

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:05 AM

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We should be able to romance Hypnos

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Or make him our best friend

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:05 AM

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he just need to sleep a bit

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:05 AM

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To be fair, sisyphus had it coming

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Hypnos > Dusa

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I do not regret what I just said.

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Hades> Not having Hades

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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@tepid plover Please keep it clean squirtnya

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Change my mind

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Lowkey tf Dio

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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squirtyay

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Dusa is a floating head

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Exactly

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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shadefear

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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dusa

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Kinda sus

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Not much else you can do lmao

fading gazelle Oct 13, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Cease this tom foolery

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banne dusa

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Why don’t we have a Hypnos and Meg emoji?

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shadegrief

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Dude. Come to think of it, zag, the prince of the underworld, really got friend zoned by a maid disembodied gorgon

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Lowkey I wish Hypnos would have a spin off game.

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I’d buy it.

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Dude. Come to think of it, zag, the prince of the underworld, really got friend zoned by a maid disembodied gorgon
@tepid plover that was your choice. I’m not gonna pursue a relationship with her.

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I don’t like Dusa.

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Lmfao

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Hater

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Dusa is the best thing the house of hades has, after cerb

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Lol she’s my only issue with the game.

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I don’t hate her but I don’t like her lol

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Understandable

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:09 AM

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I guess not everyone has that natural swagger like Hypnos

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Dude just wants to sleep

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That’s a vibe

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:10 AM

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I want to sleep too

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On top of meg

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dusa

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:10 AM

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You’ve had too much wine I think

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Is there such thing as too much wine for dionysus?

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:11 AM

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I mean-

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Yes

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Ok

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Then yeah

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 7:11 AM

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He is a god and can do a lot of things while drunk

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Like idk... cause the end of the world

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:11 AM

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dusa

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Don't tempt me zag

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:15 AM

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ok got a bouldy run

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like a guarantee for succesfull run

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 7:22 AM

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curse of drowning seems... bad

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:23 AM

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what is that exactly?

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 7:23 AM

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things dont really get pushed back anymore and it doesnt apply ares's debuff

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Ares/pos?

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 7:23 AM

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flood shot becomes pulse that damages foes around you

slate jetty Oct 13, 2020, 7:23 AM

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and pulses 3 times

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 7:24 AM

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I sort of accidentally found myself using a short range build with the gun LOL just because I was chasing unchosen fate things. So I have a shotgun and that so it's not too bad I guess but it feels silly

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:24 AM

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well i guess it requires more pos boons

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Shotgun is a good deel

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only thing is better is rocket shotgun

tepid plover Oct 13, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Haha rocket shotgun go brr

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 7:26 AM

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the shotgun ... it seems like it fires way too fast when you dash and attack

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:26 AM

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redacted go aghhh

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 7:26 AM

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I mean, great, apply all the stacks of drunk but

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:27 AM

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@pseudo onyx dio not best choice for shotgun imo

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if u have not bad base damage

cursive solar Oct 13, 2020, 7:27 AM

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i just need to complain for a sec cus this is the second time Ive gotten a bass out of a perfect catch in the surface and i still dont have the last surface fish

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:27 AM

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u want some scales

cursive solar Oct 13, 2020, 7:27 AM

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i am upsetti

pseudo onyx Oct 13, 2020, 7:27 AM

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well, I didn't know that's what I was gonna roll

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wouldn't do it this way but like I said

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Im just getting weird stuff from the fates lol

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:28 AM

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@cursive solar rip(

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i didnt have perfect catches there anyway

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@pseudo onyx prophecies should be fullfield

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 7:42 AM

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What do you guys think of a starting item that lets you store up excess healing? Like armor in a way but its accumulated from all unused healing

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:43 AM

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what

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ah got it

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like jar of hearts in TBOI?

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Yus

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I think that could be dope, or maybe a boon

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it may be out of place as a starting relic

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as in, not strong enough

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:44 AM

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too strong imo

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and how do u use it

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 7:45 AM

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passive of course

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and it could be a percentage of your current max health for inherint scaling but have it at like 15%

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that fairly reasonable

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:45 AM

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i do not like the idea

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 7:46 AM

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that weay it doesnt outright break builds with health restraints

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:46 AM

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sometimes u will have healing if u dont want

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and sometimes you cant heal when u want

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 7:46 AM

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im not sure when the latter occurs but the former can be avoided by not picking the boons

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boon*

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just a thought is all

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 7:48 AM

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I just dont understand it

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what a nice build lol https://i.imgur.com/BBmd1OV.png

Imgur

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@remote wing spoilers

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also ||after ur 10th escape iirc||

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so delete ur msg pls

remote wing Oct 13, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Thanks

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 8:01 AM

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yup

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lol i just realised i had almost all revenge boon in this run

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only Dem is missing

arctic eagle Oct 13, 2020, 8:11 AM

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hey i have a quick question?

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can some one help me real quick

crisp zodiac Oct 13, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Just ask it.

remote wing Oct 13, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Sure, what's up?

arctic eagle Oct 13, 2020, 8:12 AM

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im useing the knuckles and my special inflicts doom if i were to get rush kick would the doom be applied in a aoe to every one i hit?

crisp zodiac Oct 13, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Yeah. Try it.

arctic eagle Oct 13, 2020, 8:14 AM

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it attacks twice so would doom be applied twice or just once?

crisp zodiac Oct 13, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Doom doesn't stack by default.

gaunt portal Oct 13, 2020, 8:14 AM

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doom is only ever applied once unless you get that boon that means it does extra damage if you stack it

arctic eagle Oct 13, 2020, 8:14 AM

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ahhh okay

crisp zodiac Oct 13, 2020, 8:15 AM

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There's a boon that makes the first instance get stronger if other instances attempt to be placed before detonation.

arctic eagle Oct 13, 2020, 8:15 AM

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but it does apply in a aoe situation to every one?

crisp zodiac Oct 13, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Yeah, like any other attack, it works on what it hits.

steady cargo Oct 13, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Hmm am I missing something

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I'm doing my first run with ||aspect of lucifer and I'm not able to shoot my orb since I'm locked onto enemies||

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I feel like I'm doing something wrong hahah

viscid axle Oct 13, 2020, 8:56 AM

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does anyone know if you have a different attack that applies more doom but in this instance hit second, would it change the doom damage inflicted to match the higher skill?

granite ether Oct 13, 2020, 9:05 AM

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@steady cargo please spoiler tag ||4th aspects||, they're spoilers in this channel

steady cargo Oct 13, 2020, 9:06 AM

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So sorry, didn't know! Fixed my post

granite ether Oct 13, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Ty ^_^

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:25 AM

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is Eternal Chamber worth it if using Zues attack boon on ||Lucifer ||aspect? or is the no ramp a loss of damage?

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:26 AM

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just got hades. its fun. tips for minmaxing? (im a min maxer lol)

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:26 AM

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kinda hard to min-mas RNG

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:26 AM

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so far the sword slam seems strong. can just hide behind corners and AOE them.

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rng?

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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all stuff in the game is random

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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like what the abilities do

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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like the upgrades u get

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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and what order you get them?

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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you can still get pretty specific builds with keepsake shenanigans

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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u can curb it with an item

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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and rerolls

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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but in the end 90% is random

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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but certainly there will always be some randomness, it's a roguelite

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:27 AM

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why did they make it rng? to make each playthru different?

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 9:28 AM

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yeah, part of the genre

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:28 AM

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i feel like resetting boons/wells/selling well is better then rerolling a room

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:29 AM

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what are the best and worst weapons

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 9:29 AM

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all of the weapons are viable, "best" depends on what metric youre measuring "best" by

rich grotto Oct 13, 2020, 9:30 AM

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they all have strengths and weaknesses.

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:30 AM

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its a lot of personal taste

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:30 AM

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i dont understand the structure of the game. when you die, you go back to the first level? the levels are randomly generated? like the movie The Cube?

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:30 AM

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i hate the rail but people love it

rich grotto Oct 13, 2020, 9:30 AM

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i actually just had a bit of a problem run with the rail

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:30 AM

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do you beat the game when youve gotten through every level in one playthrough?

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:31 AM

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no if u beat the final boss u still go back to the start

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its a roguelite

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 9:31 AM

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it's a roguelite, which means it's designed to be replayed with somewhat randomly-generated paths/upgrades each time

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:31 AM

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so the progression in this game is not about completing levels, but about building your arsenal and skills until you can clear it?

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:31 AM

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yes

rich grotto Oct 13, 2020, 9:31 AM

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sort of a spoiler, sort of not - the story progresses across playthroughs/deaths as well.

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:32 AM

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dying or beating the final boss sends you to the HUB or the house

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:32 AM

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what weapons are best for what situations

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Do I need specific hammer upgrade before I gain access to Flurry Jab for spear? I've been using Achilles spear these times, because I've read that upgrade is incompatible with ||Aspects of Hades & Guan Yu||.

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:33 AM

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you choose a wep before the run starts

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:33 AM

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how do you know which weapon to select if all the dungeons are random?

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:33 AM

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and u cant change in the run

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 9:33 AM

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just use the weapon as efficient as possible

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:33 AM

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all the weps can clear the game

shell ice Oct 13, 2020, 9:34 AM

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just play whatever you want to play

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(or follow the bonus darkness)

rich grotto Oct 13, 2020, 9:35 AM

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i had a bit of trouble with the rail and the spread fire hammer upgrade - the cooldown on attacks is so short that i found myself attacking twice unless i made very deliberate taps on the attack button.

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the resulting animation lock kinda threw me off the whole run.

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 9:36 AM

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best place to spend in-game currency?

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:37 AM

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there are multiple currencies

rich grotto Oct 13, 2020, 9:37 AM

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pressing the attack key all the way down on my controller was long enough to fire twice. awkward. would not recommend.

agile saddle Oct 13, 2020, 9:37 AM

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once u start playing u will get it

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u cant mess up or anything

rich grotto Oct 13, 2020, 9:37 AM

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note on currency - all of the currency items persist across runs except coins. spend those before you die.

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 9:39 AM

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but what if u have hoarder slash residentzag

random plover Oct 13, 2020, 9:44 AM

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I had a run where I had hoarder slash on arthur with like 1.2k obols

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I lost to [Data expunged] because it was my first run with it and I sponged a lot of hits lol

burnt breach Oct 13, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Is there a mod or something that lets you get the seed of a run?
@opaque canopy Ellos starting boon selector
yeah but supported modding, its just lua scripting, no?
@burnt helm we can't import assets but that doesn't mean we can't add new things to the game
Modding is mostly problematic because Hades is still basically sprites (it's prerendered frames, not true 3d models).
@wind wedge assuming you have a tool capable of repacking the game's .pkg files, replacing animations would be a major hurdle because of this

ripe kindle Oct 13, 2020, 10:10 AM

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there is no Dusa card on the market 😮

burnt breach Oct 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

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dusa card?

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

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@burnt breach hello sir glad to see you are ok

burnt breach Oct 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

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thank you my good sir

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

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it was while

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how is your success?

burnt breach Oct 13, 2020, 10:13 AM

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success?

ripe kindle Oct 13, 2020, 10:13 AM

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dusa card?
@burnt breach on steam

burnt breach Oct 13, 2020, 10:14 AM

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ooh

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that's a major issue angryeyes

ripe kindle Oct 13, 2020, 10:14 AM

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YES. I want badget

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and a wallpaper

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 10:14 AM

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i mean what did you do all this year

burnt breach Oct 13, 2020, 10:15 AM

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well that's pretty personal lmao, or did you mean hades modding?

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 10:15 AM

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yup

burnt breach Oct 13, 2020, 10:16 AM

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well you can check out my mods on nexus, can't really advertise here

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currently have 8 mods published and maintained, with another project in the works

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

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link pls

burnt breach Oct 13, 2020, 10:20 AM

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posting links to my mods in this channel would be advertising braumSweat

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I pinged you in #self-promotion

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 10:20 AM

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u could pm

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see

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dual weapon sounds cool

sinful fjord Oct 13, 2020, 10:24 AM

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how do i undo upgrades

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i have an upgrade that gives sturdy + a dash when i use Special. but the dash's direction cant be controlled. it always sends me up north

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thats negative value

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 10:27 AM

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what

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 10:28 AM

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@sinful fjord hammer upgrades cannnot be canceled

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until it's anvil

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but sounds like something wrong with you

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 10:34 AM

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I have one Achilles Steam Card to exchange against your Thanatos Steam Card, anyone interested ?

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 10:35 AM

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just sell it and buy one

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 10:39 AM

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your answer feels like this : https://i.imgflip.com/1urgjs.jpg
dusa

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 10:41 AM

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They're pretty much equal in price, it makes no difference

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I got a dupe Than if you want

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 10:43 AM

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I don't want money involved, I want ||to exchange ~~nectar and keepsakes, ambrosia and companions~~ cards||

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 10:44 AM

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that's what I meant, a 1:1 card exchange

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 10:44 AM

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well if it's a dupe I'd love to take it off your hands 🙂

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my steam account has a small green lizard for an avatar if you want to add me to friends

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 10:48 AM

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let's do it on DMs

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 10:52 AM

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thx

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 10:52 AM

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how is your negotioations?

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did Hermes blessed you?

granite plinth Oct 13, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Is my game bugged?

neon mist Oct 13, 2020, 10:58 AM

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would this channel be the right place to offer my thanks for the creators of Hades?

granite plinth Oct 13, 2020, 10:58 AM

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I cant manually reload the rail

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Pressing r is doing nothing

grim anvil Oct 13, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Hi everyone, not sure if what I have is a bug or just bad RNG but I can't seem to get Eurydice's npc chamber to spawn since I've completed Orpheus' favor.... It's been about 13 runs since then. Any help/ reply is appreciated (or I might be asking in the wrong channel... if so can you tell me which to ask this?) (P.S. I'm playing it on the Switch)

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:13 AM

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@granite plinth hestia?

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if u have delta chamber and it's NOT hestia it's ok

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Oy so

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i've been watching a bunch of high-level content, speed runs and the like

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and everybody uses the controller

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and I just can't make the controller work, especially with ranged aiming attacks like shield special or anything to do with the bow

rich grotto Oct 13, 2020, 11:17 AM

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toggle the aim assist, see if that helps.

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:17 AM

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is there something basic i'm not getting? i tried messing with the auto-aim and auto-target settings in the control options, but i can't find anything that feels natural, it takes like 3 or 4 shots to actually hit something at full screen

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or i can spend like 3 seconds carefully tilting the control stick until it 'locks on'

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but it feels like, idk. Like the auto-lockon still requires you to be within maybe 2 or 3 degrees of the enemy, and especially when they're really close that's just impossible lol

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i feel like there must be something i'm not doing right

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:18 AM

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i'm not doing high heat only 16 so far

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but kbm is comfortable for me

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:18 AM

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ah okay so some people do use kbm

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:18 AM

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actually lot of

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

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@grim anvil just bad rng I think, mate, altho there might be hidden conditions? that said, i think the hidden conditions would only stop the plot from progressing, it wouldn't stop you from getting the chamber

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but surely it means something that the entire leaderboard is full of controller users

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why do they think it's better? like, is there a break down of pros and cons anywhere?

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i still feel like there's just that one piece of data i need to make this make sense lol

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

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well who knows

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tbh idc much about it

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i know it's ok for me

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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maybe it's about like, being able to dash at angles other than 45 degrees?

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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so why should i care about someone else

random plover Oct 13, 2020, 11:21 AM

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People use controllers so they can lean on a chair in a more relaxed position I guess

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:22 AM

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....that doesn't sound like a speed runner characteristic rofl

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i would assume they had specifically picked controller over kbm for some specific advantage

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like for instance, jawless paul used to use kbm, then at some point he switched to controller, about the time he started getting more serious about the game

random plover Oct 13, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Didn't realize how loaded the question was

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:22 AM

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and like, surely that was caused by some kind of decision but it doesn't get explained anywhere

rich grotto Oct 13, 2020, 11:22 AM

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i prefer the more granular movement control, but it's a single player game. figure out what's comfortable for you.

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:23 AM

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:/ i feel like i am not doing a very good job of explaining the question i'm asking

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i feel like there must be something that i am doing wrong, and if I fixed that something, then I would suddenly get much better at the game using a controller

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and i want that situation to occur

grim anvil Oct 13, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Aah, I'm really hoping it's just bad rng @astral pilot and I don't think there's been any hidden conditions that I know of... Otherwise, I'd have to try a new save file. I'm just really concerned about it cause it's right after I talked to Orpheus about the favor and he disappeared. Was worried that I might have locked the npc chamber spawn away since there were other questlines happening around that time as well.

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:24 AM

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@astral pilot what ||heat lvl|| did you stuck

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:25 AM

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im working my way up to 32

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i'm not exactly having any trouble really, I just feel like I am really really bad with the bow and the rail in kbm, controller seems even more impossible, yet when I see speed runners aim with controller they seem to never miss, in fact it seems to 'lock on' to the enemy much more easily

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i would love to figure out what is making my expectations differ from reality to such a large degree

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surely they can't be that good at hitting exactly 62 degrees the very first time they flick their thumb? and even then, surely using a mouse would be easier? there must be some reason why they use controller instead and i want to know what it is lol

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:26 AM

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well i cant say cus i never ever used controller

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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it feels almost impossible tbh

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for bow and rail anyway

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that's why im so confused lol

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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i wonder how far i can go with a bow

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:29 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/z1kprOd.gif

Imgur

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see like right here? how his first special misses, even though he is aimed very close to the enemy and has auto-lock on?

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that is the thing that happens to me constantly

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i feel like i must be missing something, idk maybe im just bad

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like 'sorry, your stick was tilted at 310 degrees and that enemy was at 312 degrees, so it misses"

static wadi Oct 13, 2020, 11:31 AM

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why dont you ask THEM

astral pilot Oct 13, 2020, 11:31 AM

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but that's impossible!

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well i sorta hoped they'd be in here lol

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still waiting on a reply on my youtube comment

tacit ocean Oct 13, 2020, 11:46 AM

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that special is like a cone volley fire that's not supposed to lock on right

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no nvm that does

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i don't know what to tell you other than i'm usually adjusting my aim mid dash??

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but that's probably not mind blowing lol

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 11:49 AM

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@astral pilot the devs ia here, try asking them in #test-branch-discussion

jade crescent Oct 13, 2020, 12:38 PM

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is there a max amount of gods you'll see in a run?

shadow fable Oct 13, 2020, 12:46 PM

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4 but you can get 5 under certain circumstances

jade crescent Oct 13, 2020, 12:47 PM

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such as god keepsakes only?

supple echo Oct 13, 2020, 12:48 PM

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I'm pretty sure that's not right I'm quite certain I've gotten at least 6 before

jade crescent Oct 13, 2020, 12:48 PM

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I normally see 4-5 without those keepsakes

supple echo Oct 13, 2020, 12:48 PM

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and you can almost guarantee 5

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(since you can literally gauruntee 4 different gods show up via keepsakes and hermes almost always shows up at some point)

shadow fable Oct 13, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Don't count Hermes and Chaos

supple echo Oct 13, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I can see not counting chaos, but I'd always count hermes

shadow fable Oct 13, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Because they guaranteed

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So max 4-5 gods

jade crescent Oct 13, 2020, 12:52 PM

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well in tartarus you could probably get 3 including your first keepsake, then hermes and 3 more from the other realms keepsakes

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so should be 7 max

supple echo Oct 13, 2020, 12:54 PM

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do hermes or chaos count for +5% damage from that one mirror buff?

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opposite of privileged status

jade crescent Oct 13, 2020, 12:54 PM

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family favorite, I would believe hermes does and chaos does not

supple echo Oct 13, 2020, 12:55 PM

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so you should (with lots of planning and some luck) be able to max that out at +30% I guess

jade crescent Oct 13, 2020, 12:56 PM

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30-35 yeah

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although with the purple one you gotta build for 2 debuffs and often only get it for the most part against bosses

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 1:01 PM

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So here I was, next to a ||satyr sack|| in the fifth tunnel of gods know where when Poseidon offers me ||a legendary +20% chance of a fish school||. zaglol

opaque canopy Oct 13, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Privileged status gets triggered on: Marked, exposed, jolted, weak, doom, rupture, hangover and chill

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It's not terribly hard to get it on normal mobs

grim anvil Oct 13, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Ah, quick question, does the ||Musician and Muse|| prophecy get completed before or after you visit the npc chamber ||(when you see them both in that same place)||?

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Aw yeah, finally ||Night and Darkness prophecy|| fulfilled, only have 1 achievement to go

cloud apex Oct 13, 2020, 1:06 PM

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So here I was, next to a ||satyr sack|| in the fifth tunnel of gods know where when Poseidon offers me ||a legendary +20% chance of a fish school||.
heeeey that 20% chance in the final encounter is nothing to joke about

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so good fishe potential

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Yea, I'd take that legendary boon too if offered, because the chance for fish spot on final area is very scarce

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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got a trout without the legendary boon, so I think I'm good :)
but that's a fantastic idea.

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Has anyone made a video or something that shows how the game evolved over time?

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like character designs or something

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like a retrospective

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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they dont have artbooks yet iirc

novel spindle Oct 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Would be cool

arctic umbra Oct 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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I got ||legendary +20% chance of a fish|| boon first on my last run and caught 11 fish lol

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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thats nice

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got any ||greece|| fish?

mossy grove Oct 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I got one

vivid ember Oct 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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https://twitter.com/geekreatestream/status/1315952577842831360
.....chaos........... y shadegrief
(This was all in one chamber rip )

geekreate (@geekreatestream)

Chaos Coin Curse: A Tragedy in Four Parts #HadesGame #NintendoSwitch

keen sparrow Oct 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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How do the duo boons work

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When is it possible to encounter them?

opaque canopy Oct 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Do you have the codex upgrade?

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It covers them pretty well

vapid pewter Oct 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Hey guys hades is fun but what do you do after you beat max heat and get all the achievements

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Like what else can you work for

arctic umbra Oct 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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^Sounds like we've got a pro gamer here 😛

vapid pewter Oct 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Kek ye just not sure what to work towards now

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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u got all the themes?

cloud apex Oct 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Beating max heat is like rolling a sisyphus stone
Really doesn't have a feasible end so far

vapid pewter Oct 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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True I guess cause you just get lucky one run

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And yep

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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even the demeter one?

vapid pewter Oct 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Ye I’ve had the game since early beta and i May or may not have google how to get some of the themes

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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have u reached ||the unseen one||

vapid pewter Oct 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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How do I do the spoiler bar

shell crescent Oct 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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does bonding with a character improve their keepsake?

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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||like this||

vapid pewter Oct 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Ok and ye I have even got the ||song||

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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no i mean the rank

hexed trail Oct 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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does bonding with a character improve their keepsake?
@shell crescent Nope

shell crescent Oct 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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damnit

vapid pewter Oct 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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You have so clear levels

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Do increase the rank

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To

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 1:46 PM

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getting max bond only gives:
-a chibi badge
-a bond pun
-a relationship quote

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Has anyone made a video or something that shows how the game evolved over time?
@brisk trail you get a tiny bit of that in the noclip documentary series

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Talking about some ot the game's songs would be considered spoiler? I mean, the name of the song, not the context where it's played

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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I dont think so

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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also, idk how wide it's known, so v minor max bond flavor text spoilers ahead just in case: ||the companions' flavor text seems to be changing based on relationship status with the 3 main romance routes; there's a narrow window to take a peek at the collection between maxing out the hearts but before making the relationship official||

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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thw songs are all on spotify

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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And youtube

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 2:14 PM

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It's just because i'd like to praise Darren like a god, and Ashley as well, for "In The Blood". Might be one of my favorite songs ever

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:14 PM

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I don't have enough gems to unlock songs lol

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:14 PM

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i like at the coast more

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Im too busy using resources to unlock stuff for runs and ||trying to seduce Than and Meg||

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 2:15 PM

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I haven't unlocked this one on music sheet yet. But i always listen to the game's OST on Spotify/music player

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I haven't unlocked this one on music sheet yet. But i always listen to the game's OST on Spotify/music player
@brisk trail In The Blood, i mean

cloud apex Oct 13, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Funnily enough, In The Blood is actually mentioned in early dialogue with Orpheus

brisk trail Oct 13, 2020, 2:16 PM

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i like at the coast more
@carmine ravine On The Coast is beautiful as well. But the vocals at In The Blood are splendid

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Funnily enough, In The Blood is actually mentioned in early dialogue with Orpheus
@cloud apex Didn't remember that. Neat

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@slender linden ty!

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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oh and they shared a bit of art process/particles and effects creation on twitter, so you can also check that out

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Aside from a scythe, what weapons would you want to see? I would love to have a hammer added. Maybe you find daedalus finally and he gives you one of his nicer hammers

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 2:37 PM

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before new weapons I'd prefer a stronger dark thirst... Can't get gems/darkness fast enough !

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:39 PM

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gets chaos boons

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or Poseidon's

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Not a scythe cause thats a stupid weapon

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It has 0 practical use as a weapon whatsoever

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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it'll still take a while to amass that 33K gemstones and 340K darkness (not to mention the 150 diamonds or so...)

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Then again we have gauntlets but thats at least a brawler thing

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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It's more style than practicality

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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But I'd love to see an axe or hammer or something

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Let's be honest

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Or a staff

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Cause staffs are undderrated plus it could be kinda a cast-build thing

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Oh yeah for sure an axe. Zag even says he has an affinity for axes when you buy the display ones for the hall

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Aspect of Wu Kong I could see happening though lol

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Heracles used a club so that could be an aspect for hammer

robust sundial Oct 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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@obtuse zephyr maybe because ||asterius|| wields one and wrecks your ass with it.

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Cause staffs are undderrated plus it could be kinda a cast-build thing
@deep geyser hmm like what if you didn't collect your bloodstones again once cast but you could hit em around the room with the staff? Faster casting

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I would think they return faster or you get bonus ones

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:45 PM

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@obtuse zephyr maybe because ||asterius|| wields one and wrecks your ass with it.
@robust sundial wrecks who? Not me :P

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Or like the Hera bow you could collect them all into one shot and do a massive blast depending on the god boon you have?

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Just a melee version of the bow would be lame though

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Though imagine an Aspect of Minos axe and you meet Asterius and he's like

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So thats where it went

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:47 PM

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i actually want a kusarigama but its totally will be out of place a lot in the game

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Or he's like "wait a gods-damned minute that's mine!" And the fight starts off in phase 2

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Ooh or a dual wield wepaon could be fun. Like dual swords

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Similar to fists tho

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:48 PM

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or a spear shield, oh wait

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:48 PM

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And @obtuse zephyr Yes but itd have special things, like Zeus could be calling down a huge bolt

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But yeah Im playing with the HEra bow rn so its on my mind

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:49 PM

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make ur bow a melee with piint blank shot hammer

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Di Cast with Hera is fun

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:50 PM

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yeah i liked the Bastion hammer, hammer could be cool. scythes don't have to be practical if they're very very cool. tho even Than doesn't seem to use his xD

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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have u even seen demeters scythe

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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the what

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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try getting Demeter legend boon

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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i actually want a kusarigama but its totally will be out of place a lot in the game
@carmine ravine I mean, hell, we have a gun in the game why not? Lol

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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The problem would be trying to figure out weapons that we dont basically have with other weapons and hammers

arctic umbra Oct 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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triple bomb launcher for the gun is awesome

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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i dont like Demeter boons but ill have to, at some point

plucky sail Oct 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Aspect of Arthur is basically a hammer, at least that's how I choose to see it

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Give me a boomerang weapon

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Like Axe/Hammer I could justify bc we dont really have a slow hard hitting weapon without otherr aspects

plucky sail Oct 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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I don't care if it's not greek

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Give me a big boomerang

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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i just want to borrow Than's scythe, is that too much to ask xD

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shield is basically a boomerang

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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And we could have the hidden aspect be something faster hitting, opposite of how the other weapons work

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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using demeter legend boon, at 10%hp, chilled bosses will time stop, a scythe will appear and execute them@slender linden

arctic umbra Oct 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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yeah i use shield like boomerang

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I could see them more likley adding new aspects than new weapons

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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oooo

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I could see Aspect of Hephaestus for the gun lol

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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What would it do?

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Not sure.

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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aspect of theseus shield kek

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Maybe lava puddle where the bomb lands?

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Idk I'd love to see something with Hephaestus just cause I love him as a god

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Maybe but dots are bad if you can't get people to stand still

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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but hes ugly js

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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In asphodel it would be useless

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Yeah but he makes the weapons of the gods and goddesses

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Idk I just like him ok

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 2:56 PM

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tbf i doubt supergiant would even manage to make him ugly

plucky sail Oct 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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I'd like to do what Theseus does and rock with a shield and spear honestly

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Probably be a little busted

plucky sail Oct 13, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Yeah, for sure

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But the style

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Agreed lol

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I'm all about style bro

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Ooh a whip could be interesting

plucky sail Oct 13, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Alternative companion call for Achilles and Pat where you three just form a phalanx

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I'd like a short sword that causes bleed on hit. Built in dot, fast weapon with low base damage kinda like the jabs

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:01 PM

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And we could see an Aspect of the Furies kinda thing

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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it'd be fun for Zag to take what he's learned with the lyre and like a true bard hit enemies with the raw power of music

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Bruh 100% down for that

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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wdym, theseus literally only have bull rush and spear special

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not even busted

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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You get the bad notes when you hit an enemy with it

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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omg

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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wdym, theseus literally only have bull rush and spear special
@carmine ravine passive deflection on hit from the front

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Chef, that could be realy cool actually

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:05 PM

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could be an aura weapon

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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New secial buffs that give you bonuses instead of dealing damage

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Exactly what I'm thinking Risu, you can load your cast and do it as later aoe or turn single target ones into an aoe as an aspect

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Or could do things like Poisiden basting them away and Athena creating a shield around you

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But like Hermes maybe makes you move faster and projectiles slower?

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Aspect of orpheus, let you charm people if you hit then with the special

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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OH MY GOD

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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athena already have barrier

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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HEAVY METAL

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Aphro does charm already

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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projectiles slowing already one of the boons

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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ASPECT OF ARES AND ITS A GUITAR

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Idk about Ares, the hidden Aspects are different pantheons

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Your dash is a knee slide now

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Maybe something from norse

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Aspect of Odin

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Nah that would be spear

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:08 PM

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aspect of bouldy better come soon or i ragequit

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Rock Aspect

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:08 PM

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But yeah the Lyre could be fun lol

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It would probably have an Apollo aspect

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Cause he's the god of music

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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SGG, get on that. We expect a beta in two weeks lol

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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the music flavor of that alone would be great

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omg yes! Apollo!

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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i want them icarus wings

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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We don't have anything egyptian or Japanese yet aas far as I know

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Idle animation he begins playing a random song you have bought from the contractor

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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what about aspect of hestia 2, electric boogaloo

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this time it’s a flamethrower

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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aaaa i want it now, what have i done

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omg

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I feel like Lucifer should just be a flamethrower instead of a laser

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That way you wouldn't have to aim at the special balls

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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actually good point

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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what if its bow, but throwing knives

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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that’d prolly satisfy me

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:11 PM

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you know the disco ball you can buy for the lounge 👀 could be a special idle interaction too

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:11 PM

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lucifer special balls u can just detonate using dashes

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:11 PM

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what if its bow, but throwing knives
@carmine ravine you were doing so well with ideas until just now

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Lol

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:11 PM

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ah the possibilities

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what if its not bow, and just... throwing knives

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Not a bow just Zagreus picking up random items off the ground and throwing them

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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who would that be the aspect of tho

obtuse zephyr Oct 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Throwing vases for days

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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lol

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Ooh Aspect of David actually and make it a sling?

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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kek

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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zagreus throws random garbage: Aspect of Trash God

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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omg yes, scavenger weapon

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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alecto was right all along

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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@sharp fossil Aspect of Hades

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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pffft

deep geyser Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Just so Zag can bash his father more

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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then if trash god, i propose ||pocket sand||

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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we already have aspect of hades?

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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if you fished earlier in the run, you can slap people with dead fish

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:14 PM

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this just makes me want the fishing rod to be a weapon

slender linden Oct 13, 2020, 3:14 PM

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it should be

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:14 PM

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wdym, fishing rod os a wepaon against fishes

sharp fossil Oct 13, 2020, 3:15 PM

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me, fighting ||hades||: “i’ve got a big one!”

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||hades||: “...”

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yeah no this has to be a thing now

carmine ravine Oct 13, 2020, 3:15 PM

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isnt that a spoiler