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#h1-discussion
barren ocean
vestal dagger
theres no buffering attacks in this game
opaque orbit
the key here is attacking backwards while dashing forwards
barren ocean
spoiler
opaque orbit
which you just can't do with a controller, right?
opaque orbit
oh yeah I don't know a lot about ||erebus||
quiet gull
It's not THAT hard, but you cant do it instantly
opaque orbit
do I need to ||fight charon|| more than once?
vestal dagger
no
barren ocean
its a choice so you can do it whenever
vestal dagger
and on that note
barren ocean
yall lmao
vestal dagger
waaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
opaque orbit
oh, just looked it up on the wiki
vestal dagger
||i was so sad cuz i didnt realize that taking the gold made you fight charon, so i was like hey free gold in the middle of my heat 16 run and i died cuz i had no idea what was going on||
barren ocean
Yea min requirement for ||Erberus is 5 heat in Tartarus||
vestal dagger
5 10 15
opaque orbit
yeah the first and only time I've been there is for ...that other way to go there
tbh it might have ruined my run then because I took a ton of damage, but I figure it's worth doing at least once
barren ocean
The benefit of || Fighting Charon is getting the 20% discount on all his items||
opaque orbit
that's not permanent, right
barren ocean
It takes a little while but you can def learn the attack patterns
fresh steppe
That’s such a good buff that it’s worth getting it early
barren ocean
Its for the rest of the run
opaque orbit
what determines when you can do it?
barren ocean
chance
static wadi
@fresh steppe it's kinda hard to fght early
fresh steppe
Kinda risky since ||Charon|| is stupid strong
quiet gull
Only in mid-biome shops
barren ocean
You can ||Trigger Charon fight any charon shop so long as its not the one before teh boss||
opaque orbit
is it the same fight no matter where you do it from
fresh steppe
But worth the risk imo
barren ocean
yes
opaque orbit
yowza
barren ocean
But also means same dmg
so it hurts to do it early
But i have sucessfully done it
static wadi
Quick recovery helps a lot vs him
opaque orbit
in my head I imagine going in with ||guan yu|| (is it best practice to spoiler tag hidden aspects?) spear, getting hit once, and dying instantly
static wadi
@barren ocean u can have Hermes in tartarus no?
barren ocean
Yea it is dash
static wadi
@opaque orbit try special builds
barren ocean
Nope. hermes you can only get right before the Furies or in Asphodel
not during Tartarus
opaque orbit
no I mean as a total hypothetical
barren ocean
LOL
So ||Charon does flat 50 dmg with his swing, and the balls do 20ish||
At 100hp that hurts
opaque orbit
I thought it was 41
opaque orbit
all I know is I saw some 41s flying around
static wadi
@opaque orbit mb u had some DR or he was wekened
opaque orbit
maybe I did
opaque orbit
would've been funnier if it actually was 41
gusty slate
Ah excellent 500 hp
opaque orbit
just to beat ||hades's spin damage|| by 1
barren ocean
XD
opaque orbit
I legit thought that was it, and I found it very funny
static wadi
iirc chaos curse damage does not fail ||erebus|| chamber?
static wadi
if i get hit by chaos curse
fresh steppe
It won’t
static wadi
will i fail ||erebus|| room?
fresh steppe
I tried it before it doesn’t fail it
static wadi
ok it's time to deal with it i guess
lol won without using curse
it's much easier when those cat things are missing
fresh steppe
The cat things are terrible
I instantly lost an ||Erebus|| chamber because 1 spawned right next to me
static wadi
same
vestal dagger
spreaders?
barren ocean
what cat things?
static wadi
it was right in a place where i dashed
barren ocean
Flame Wheels?
brisk trail
Hi can anyone confirm if the best weapon is aegis and what skill should I apply for them
vestal dagger
o
barren ocean
hot-
opaque orbit
I really like aegis
vestal dagger
the best weapon is subjective, but shield is the safest
static wadi
@brisk trail best weapon is what u like most
brisk trail
I like the shield aegis
opaque orbit
as I've said previously I get a lot of mileage out of mouse and keyboard with it
brisk trail
But I don’t know how exactly to build it
barren ocean
depends on play style
vestal dagger
and if you want to, aspect of chaos if you want to play ranged, aspect of zagreus if you want to go head in
static wadi
but for chaos shield i like Dio special build
opaque orbit
I can dash one direction and charge bash in another
barren ocean
you can attack/dash attack focus
or special focus
or bull rush focus
or all around
Its really finding out how you like to play
opaque orbit
I personally don't put any focus on my special unless I have a good opportunity
barren ocean
i would say maybe get a stacking dmg like doom or hangover then?
Uh no
There are a million ways to build things
not to mention luck of getting boons
brisk trail
But what’s the most effective build for aegis
barren ocean
Thats subjective
brisk trail
Is it dash hit
barren ocean
subjective again
static wadi
@brisk trail Aphro attack. Dio special. Their duo. lots of pom for Dio upgrade. Mb boon for longer Weak. Add Dio/Ares duo if u can
barren ocean
there is never an absolute best
brisk trail
I still like to dash and kill fast
barren ocean
Then stack on damage
opaque orbit
for chaos shield do you have to actually hit someone with the bash?
barren ocean
get like aprho weakness
static wadi
no
barren ocean
increase suspectibility
and then do some dmg boons
for example
thats one possible way
but there are many many others
opaque orbit
they're mostly random
barren ocean
^
brisk trail
Ah so u just have to go with the flow
barren ocean
yep
brisk trail
Of what u get and build the best out of it
barren ocean
yepp
barren ocean
there are various forms of ageis
brisk trail
How do u do that
opaque orbit
the aspects can be unlocked with titan's blood
brisk trail
Ah full clear
static wadi
@brisk trail unlock all weapon and make a run
daring steeple
Completed master of arms 👏
barren ocean
Nice!
static wadi
no
daring steeple
24 total runs
barren ocean
clear as in finish
static wadi
for aspects u want unlock all weapon 1st
barren ocean
beat all the bosses
brisk trail
Unlock all weapons then clear a run
barren ocean
Exagryph is fun
static wadi
@brisk trail funny sometimes
opaque orbit
reloads are very annoying to deal with
static wadi
Rail is most uniq weapon imo
barren ocean
i dunno about that
brisk trail
I like a really messy build weapons like I like to be fast and jingling everyone
barren ocean
Aegis feels really unique
static wadi
because hammers can change gameplay radically for rail
opaque orbit
you'll have to define "jingling"
barren ocean
^^^^
barren ocean
alright lol
opaque orbit
shield for me is good at moving around the room, not staying near any one enemy for very long
barren ocean
Which aspect do you pref?
Also i think you have to hit with Chaos to trigger?
Not 100% sure tho
opaque orbit
I like zeus shield because blitz disc can be like a "set it and forget it" thing
barren ocean
ayyy same
opaque orbit
you can still attack while it's out
fresh steppe
You don’t have to hit with chaos rush to get more shields
fresh steppe
You can whiff it and still get extra shield
opaque orbit
with all the shields other than zeus, I can't see myself focusing on shield throw
barren ocean
chaos is wild when upgraded
opaque orbit
because any time I'm throwing my shield, I don't have a shield to block attacks with
barren ocean
- Extra bounces from hammer upgrade
static wadi
Basic shield is more about attack
opaque orbit
with zeus shield you can have your shield and throw it too
static wadi
not special
barren ocean
Zag aspect is increase to dmg so yea its about punching enemies in the face
XD
Chaos tho i find i rush, dash throw
so im out of range and ready to catch
opaque orbit
tbh looks are also an important factor for me, picking favorite weapon aspects
barren ocean
fav look overall?
static wadi
tempting ||https://i.imgur.com/iZtrsX5.png||
opaque orbit
I like how hera bow looks with zagreus's outfit
cloud apex
Nothing could ever go wrong with that one. Go take the chance
opaque orbit
the skull aesthetic
looks are also probably why I keep thinking maybe this time I can accomplish something with ||guan yu|| spear
I didn't even realize until today that ||its spin attack heals||
cloud apex
Nothing wrong at all, yes
static wadi
also funny thing
cloud apex
Now to hopefully buy something of worth with that
static wadi
if i dont die next room
lapis flume
guys i got this game on switch. can i ask a qustion here?
static wadi
i used Shady ||vs Charon and coins and darkness in center of the room deflected purple waves he used||
lapis flume
do you guys on pc still have "life drinker" where you get 4 HP on hit?
static wadi
room number 9 btw https://i.imgur.com/y0aQ8tS.png
cloud apex
4hp probably not
There are 1hp (from certain spear), 2hp (from Cursed Slash hammer) and 2% hp (from draining cutter(?) hammer)
Also wew, close
lapis flume
because i'm around 30 runs in and it has been challenging. now i have 4 hp life on hit with the swords and it gets boring so i stopped playing
i was thinking maybe they missed something to remove on the switch
lapis flume
i got a buff where i get 4 HP on every hit
barren ocean
you gain or lose?
lapis flume
can stand on the face of the hydra and smash buttons
fair dove
Demeter fist player? @barren ocean
lapis flume
gain
barren ocean
You gain 2hp per hit but have 60% less health
yea
cursed slash
thats a hammer boon
what about it
fair dove
^
daring steeple
just don't take it if you don't want it
fair dove
Guys chill
lapis flume
all my runs were pretty challenging so far. but with cursed slash it's been a boringly easy run so far
barren ocean
Have you reached credits
static wadi
wait did they changed prereq for Ares Dio duo????
cloud apex
I recommend to enter later areas before judging that hammer tbh
fair dove
Well that’s a good thing lol
lapis flume
no i only reached the minotaur in stage 3 so far
fair dove
Don’t u wanna beat the game?
barren ocean
I would recommend playing a lot more lmao
like... a lot
things get interesting
to say the least
fair dove
wait did they changed prereq for Ares Dio duo????
@static wadi no I don’t think so
static wadi
ph yes they did
cloud apex
I do wonder why everyone is so negative on that opinion tbh
barren ocean
cursed slash?
lapis flume
i was just wondering because it was very challenging and i liked it. but compared to that run witrh cursed slash. i mean i dunno what is still coming and i'm excited, but it seemd too op imo
zenith mauve
Question!
fair dove
i was just wondering because it was very challenging and i liked it. but compared to that run witrh cursed slash. i mean i dunno what is still coming and i'm excited, but it seemd too op imo
@lapis flume that’s the beauty of the game. You’ll get good builds and sometimes u don’t.
barren ocean
Answer!
cloud apex
Or maybe you did get better and the hammer was just something for you to resonate with. That also can happen a lot
lapis flume
i want to earn my first playthrough 😛
cloud apex
They are all earned imho, you have to put effort to win no matter the luck
barren ocean
^^
lapis flume
good to hear. thank you guys for all your answers
barren ocean
good luck!
zenith mauve
So about Bounties and Heat:
||If I have no heat and want to go on a run the game shows that I already got all the bounties for that weapon and I know I'll just get Darkness instead. If I have a full heat gauge then it shows only darkness indicating I have more to gain, and will receive bounties from darkness.
But if my heat is incomplete it shows shrouded bounties. What does that mean?||
lapis flume
i love the game, it'S just gorgeous
barren ocean
thats spoilers @zenith mauve
zenith mauve
oh
zenith mauve
I thought it was okay since gameplay
barren ocean
but to answer your questoin
barren ocean
So ||Bounties are based on what heats youve completed. This means for example. If you have only cleared Varatha (spear) with 5 heat, you can only get bounties for 6 heat since its the next heat up. You could put in 10 heat for the next run, but it will only count to heat 6 bounties||
Does that help?
zenith mauve
Ah, it's just that ||since it shows clear pictures for no heat and no pictures for full heat, i imagined the shrouded pics were something else||
||I guess it's to show it's not enough?||
static wadi
@barren ocean ||so u can finish 10 heat runs for 5 times and get bounties for all of them||
barren ocean
Ah i see what you mean. With ||Completed heats, the images are shown but shrouded. When there are no images, thats when they havent been collected. It will be a ? instead||
and yep gznm
but it depends what your ||current heat bounty is||
Also to answer your question @fair dove Yes. I love Demeter malphon, but no this is in reference to my first clear. Demeter cast 😄
static wadi
damn i hoped i can have ares dio boon sell ares attack and grab aphro attack and their duo with dio too(
barren ocean
tfw you reroll you boons and get the exact same three boons
static wadi
1st room?
barren ocean
no charon shop before 3rd boss
static wadi
i didnt try alternative mirror for last perk yet
not sure how it's work
only for wells and shops?
patent trail
Have there been any updates on the cross save update? i know they said octoberish but i was just wondering if they said anything 👀
barren ocean
not yet i dont think
i know the team is taking a break after such a big release
so we just gotta be patient i think
patent trail
yea definitely i was just wondering if they made an announcement at all
im itching to play on my switch cause my pc with my progress on it broke 
orchid swan
Does anyone think its not really worth || 'borrowing' from charon lol, the fight can be difficult and then you just get a discount.. ||
barren ocean
not after the october note
i think
I do
I do it in Tartarus
makes the entire run real good
granite ether
all we know is october sometime
flat vapor
you also get ||a huge sum of money to use with that discount lol||
orchid swan
@flat vapor || true lol ||
static wadi
@orchid swan just had a "meeting" with him in Tartarus
lost all dd and had 13 hp left
but now i just finished elisium
orchid swan
@static wadi || Hahah damn. Well I fought and beat him once but never felt the need to again.. 😅 ||
indigo plover
barren ocean
danggit 5th room sack
static wadi
@orchid swan i just cant pass when i see it
barren ocean
also yes boon still triggers if your asking about that lykathe
static wadi
that is the reaso why i losing so much hp in Tomatos encounter
i just cant let him win
and become rekkless
barren ocean
that autocorrect tho
brisk trail
New voice lines post 1.0? Is there hope for consistent updates after all?
narrow hemlock
uhh not necessarily
arctic umbra
dumb question, but if I use lambant plume to gain speed, as soon as I unequip it I lose those effects right?
barren ocean
also 1.0 was offical release
granite ether
yep, you lose the bonus
arctic umbra
thanks 🙂
frosty moss
hey games my game keeps crashing randomly. Any one have any fixes?
granite ether
follow the steps in #h1-tech-fixes if they don't work make a post in #h1-tech-support @arctic umbra
frosty moss
dope thanks
barren ocean
what is the chance that when rerolling boons id get the exact same boons
not once
but twice with different boons
WHY
static wadi
so looks like gage fullfill faster with high amount of attacks
not high amount of dmg
hestia takes eternity to charge
and chiron made it fast
static wadi
i know
static wadi
i know
barren ocean
just asking
static wadi
and with chiron u do a lot of attacks
and call charging way faster
damn
i wanted to try have 2 duos
didnt even have single(
but i believe lvl 8 posion will do the work
wow literally 0 dmg redacted
static wadi
nope
i accidently took it for 1st biom
so it was dusa trinket
cus i need to lvlup all of them
damn imagine how close i was to defeat
fresh steppe
I think hidden aspects are spoilers
static wadi
@chrome haven secret aspects are spoiler
read pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
u can have all info about secret aspects there
chrome haven
brave frost
hey guys do you know if boons that enhance attack also enhance dash-attack
for sword that is
brave frost
ok cool
i have a lot of attack boons but i also have a zeus dash so i want to dash strike
tepid plover
most should benefit it yes
static wadi
not erebus but elisium
static wadi
also all this kinda spoiler i think
blissful depot
The House Contractor has a new job available for me but I can't seem to find it.
static wadi
and 3rd idk i didnt have it yet too)
blissful depot
I've checked every tab thoroughly but it's not appearing, nor is the notification going away
blissful depot
Yeah
static wadi
if so it also means u can afford some upgrade from 1st list
it means u have enough gems or diamonds
thick geyser
Or other things that are spoiler :P
static wadi
@thick geyser try #h1-story-discussion channel
thick geyser
Yep - posted there :)
bright lance
me: activates infernal trove, spams R button to try and collect the darkness reward as fast as possible to move on
end up mistiming the button, I go on to select the next room
as the door opens I see that the darkness is still next to the trove and I never collected it
static wadi
if u fast enough u may try exit
and back
not sure it will work with throve
but i do it when i see golden urn i missed
or choose wrong house door
lament coral
so when I started a run the first boon wasn't my keepsake one
and it was poseidon handing me his legendary
does that just happen sometimes?
static wadi
@lament coral it's scripted event
unkempt sleet
@lament coral it happens twice, once for when you unlock calls and once for huge catch
static wadi
@brisk trail i prefer Chaos
worn umbra
i really hope some way to lock or reduce the god mode damage reduction gets added
preferably the latter
gray geyser
How do I get the acspect of guan yu exactly?
I think I have everything I just want someone to clarify
brisk trail
You need to ||have unlocked 5 non-Zagreus weapon aspects, and figth redacted once winning is not required. Achilles will talk about it later||
fresh steppe
Hidden aspects are considered spoilers
lunar cypress
If ya purge a boon, can it show up later in the run? And if so, can it be a higher rarity?
lunar cypress
Alright sweet
worn umbra
has anybody here done a max heat run
fresh steppe
No one has iirc
I think max anyone’s done is 50 but don’t quote me on that
But somebody’s going to figure out how to do max heat
glacial zephyr
I know it's low heat, but pretty proud of this time 😛 https://i.imgur.com/cikG3Lp.png
fresh steppe
This should go in victory boasting
small aurora
Not sure what you mean by low heat tbh
gray geyser
Ok thanks
dire coyote
Is the aspect of ||Lucifer || any good? Haven’t tried it yet but forcing you to stand still seems pretty bad
dire coyote
Is there a Daedalus upgrade for it that lets you move and fire?
lost hazel
you can actually dash whilst firing with|| lucifer||. just keep holding fire and dash while doing so
no hammer to let u walk while firing tho
brisk trail
I'm not sure why Lucifer's being singled out when every Aspect of the Rail makes you stop to fire.
Hestia can get away with only attacking during a Dash but with Eris you're just as stuck during your Attack as you are with Lucifer.
lost hazel
does anyone ever use zagreus rail???
fresh steppe
Not really, not when eris and hestia rails exist
lost hazel
literally any rail aspect is better than zagreus
brisk trail
Only with Spread Fire.
flat vapor
lucy not destroying projectiles hurts real bad
hollow rock
Not that I imagine it’s really feasible without tool assist or something, but what would happen if you managed to fully escape on your first try?
lost hazel
probably the ending starts immediately. i doubt anything strange really
hollow rock
Aw
random plover
Why though
dire coyote
I’ve still no idea when I’ll be able to use my|| ambrosia, I’ve filled up multiple character’s meter to max but it doesn’t seem to be doing anything ||
arctic umbra
yeah I have a few at locked hearts too. just gotta wait until they say the right words
unique igloo
So does anyone else feel like the game is kinda short?
brisk trail
Genre-wise yes
unique igloo
The bosses and then redacted are fun fights and the stuff looks amazing. But I feel like they put more time on pizazz and polish over playtime
brisk trail
How long it took you for the credits?
unique igloo
I played since early access, but I finished first clear after full release in my 6th try
Now I'm just farming bounties to try the other weapons
Like I'm at the point where I run through tartarus and aspodel without a care since it's become instinctual
Like idk, I'd trade away Hypnos for another stage and boss
brisk trail
that's usually the case with Supergiant tho, they put more in art, story, music than gameplay content which doesn't really work for roguelite/like genre
I joined after the game got out of early access so I can't say much
Tho I heard the main stroy stuff was added with v1.0? The stuff with Zag's mother
bitter needle
@dire coyote you just have to wait until certain dialogue happens then you can, I thought it was weird too but then after a few extra runs and interactions I could give it to them
heavy crane
Does the raging rush for achilles give i frames?
brisk trail
i think so
jade vapor
anyone else get a serious Tetris effect from hades? after playing for a while I start seeing telegraphs and animations when I close my eyes. mostly the spin telegraph that the furies, heroes, and final boss use
brave spade
Does hyralite gold work if I have -100% lasting consequences?
fading gazelle
@brave spade no. The only healing effect I know that comes with LC 4 is using a defiance or 4th aspect spear
brave spade
Got it, thanks
tardy slate
Just a question, is it better to try to finish heat runs with diff weapons every time? Or better to use same weapon and amp up the heat on and on?
For the life of me I can't finish a run with a spear even without heat. I have three runs with the bow now tho
shadow valley
i think it really depends on your own enjoyment. i rotate weapons all the time depending on which one has thirst, and i just fulfill whatever heat requirement it has and then so on and so forth
although i definitely groan when i have to do the spear lol
mossy lily
ambrosia is just Fanta
keen tartan
yeah but aspect of beowulf exists 😔
bitter needle
Does anybody else just chill with Eurydice to listen to her sing? I’m doing that right now and her voice is so calming 😌
steep swift
i just chill with the full album 😎
shadow valley
ooooo grats
sand stump
bitter needle
Does anybody know how to make fishing easier? I always psych myself out and either press the button too early or late enough to not get a perfect catch 😦
shell ice
rely more on sound than visual/controller vibration
the "splash" sound is very distinctive
it took me a while before i was getting perfect catches, but now i'd say I get them about 2/3 of the time
(though for some reason I struggle a lot more with perfect catches in asphodel than other areas)
(maybe its the colour of the lava?)
bitter needle
O so just like animal crossing:0
brisk trail
I am at 60+ escape attempts
I am still enjoying myself
@bitter needle when the lure goes underwater entirely, pull back.
crisp zodiac
Just breathe deeply and relax.
You'll get the timing right (within a third of a second after it goes under for a perfect catch) if you just take it in stride.
Hmm, so if the 4th aspect spear's healing works through Lasting Consequences, what about the hammer effects that heal?
drifting thicket
Does Tight Deadline give you a boost and/or invulnerability during the last 30 seconds. Because I started taking hades life down quite fast and should have died.
crisp zodiac
Check your boons. Maybe you just had a good interaction of which you were unaware.
crisp zodiac
Is doom damage augmented by talents such as Boiling Blood or Shadow Presence?
granite ether
doom will be affected by universal modifiers but it won't be affected by things that specify "attack/special/cast (or any combination of) does x/y% more/more base damage" @crisp zodiac
nope it doesn't do any of that @drifting thicket
drifting thicket
Ok so I just clutched it. Ok cool.
granite ether
yep ^_^
drifting thicket
I had an aphrodite build mainly. A few epics. One heroic and artemis.
quartz ivy
right so
I can't get the Hypnos favour to start? I've done straight up everything else lmao. Ditto Hermes, I guess. What's the secret?
crisp zodiac
So yes to Boiling Blood, Shadow Presence, et cetera. Nice! Thanks.
Also, I know that I am fishing within 0.33s, but I never get a perfect catch. Are perfect catches something that I have to unlock, or am I bugged?
granite ether
no doom is not affected by either of those things @crisp zodiac they specify "attack and special do x% more damage when y condition is met"
which is not a universal modifier
tardy slate
If I have a limit of 2 heat for the gauge, and I exceed it by going 8 heat, will I still get new bounties?
crisp zodiac
Oh, I just noticed! My bad. Thanks!
tardy slate
And can I get Skelly's prize if I do?
granite ether
you'll get the unclaimed bounties from heat 2 and yes you'll get the first prize :3
crisp zodiac
And you'll still get new bounties if you ramp it down to 3.
tardy slate
Like is it disappointing or something lol
granite ether
I think it's worth it
granite ether
cosmetic
tardy slate
Oh Dang I see thanks!
Do I have to finish the whole run with 8 heat to get the prize?
granite ether
yep
tardy slate
Gotcha
thorny thorn
just had the talk with Nyx about her ||firing Dusa, my heart is in friggin shambles||
brisk trail
Just escaped 4 times in a row after being completely stuck on the theseus fight for days
Feels good
pale zenith
Man I must say Hades is becoming one of my favourite games
And so far that spot was taken by GTA San Andreas, so I am not giving that title away so easily.
wheat bloom
hey friends is there something i should do to get the prompt to ||give sisyphus ambrosia?||
tame sigil
I want to help out Dusa but I dont know what to do with the lounge to help her out
any suggestions?
i dont have a lot of gems or diamonds to spare tbh
surreal beacon
time to grind out yer gems then
'coz there's a lot that needs doing around the lounge
I think you need ||13 items, at least, including both cerberus repairs? They may have changed it since early access||
gusty slate
Sounds about right, it's around there...
cloud apex
It probably remains the same yes
||although worth noting that a rug is also in requirements||
surreal beacon
I just wasn't sure if the requirements increased with the added options
ivory estuary
This is hard to judge. Can chain lightning go back and forth between 2 foes multiple times, or does increasing the # of jumps just increase the total # of enemies affected?
dire sable
i'm like 90% leaning towards only total number of enemies affected
cloud apex
It can also bounce from obstacles too, so it's a bit more useful
But it also has extremely limited range that is not improved by the chain lightning boon so that's a lot worse
Generally sparks should only target each enemy once
robust sundial
wiki says 12 items including ||the entrance rug and the two "cerberus repairs" at the absolute minimum||
glossy scarab
darned ||EM4 hades got me, i failed to realize those pots were part of the traps category||
carmine ravine
just camp in a corner
bold lynx
ummm ive been running the bow a lot and i had a question on sonthing
does anyone know if "distant enemies" is a percentage of your range? or if its a hard in game distance
carmine ravine
i think its outside the nearby range
cloud apex
It's a hard in game distance, which iirc is at the tip of bow's range
Not quite practical, should I tell you that
smoky rune
is whether or not Charon has money to steal based on RNG?
thorny thorn
ya
smoky rune
too bad - thank you
carmine ravine
i usually only found him on low money for some reason
quaint hinge
Hi there! I just found this server. Um..... I was talking to a friend earlier about some of the keepsakes and I decided to make a reddit post. I'm really interested to hear other people's ideas. Could I link you all?
crisp zodiac
Let us have it, Aurora.
carmine ravine
this guy been typing for 5 min
trail copper
Do we know if effect that have a chance or garentee of increasing the rareity of boons like keepsakes give you a better chance of getting a duo or legendary boon if you have the requirements. My understanding was that if you have the requirements for duo boons or legendaries it's a set chance of getting the boon with one of the gods. But I saw a video with the speed runner wriste where he said to jawless paul that effects that increase the rareity increase the change of getting a duo boon
carmine ravine
the aphrodite and ares ones arent very suitable imo
quaint hinge
Well - I was thinking Aphrodite charm because really...the charmed enemies don't do anything except not attack you.
carmine ravine
yes @trail copper, especially if u got the poseidon/dio duo
quaint hinge
So could just have them to extra damage to other enemies
Make it worth it to try to charm them.
shell ice
having text on a keepsake that only does anything if you have 1 of 2 boons in the game, one of which is legendary
feels pretty :/
carmine ravine
u dont charm enemies except 2 ways, call and legend boon yeah
shell ice
anyway, although i do agree that there isnt much reason to take olympian keepsakes into the final boss, im not really sure they need a buff
quaint hinge
That's true I suppose. I was just thinking it would be nice if we actually made efforts to charm/freeze/ enemies that we could get some other benefit from it.
carmine ravine
even chaos asked you to meme it with his keepsake
quaint hinge
The call boon on Aphrodite is quite useful though I think.
I dont think they NEED a buff - but they are especially useless after elysium.
carmine ravine
outside of the burst for greater call, the charm isnt worth it
trail copper
Ya it's of not all keepsakes are good in the final area. Olympian keepsakes are already very powerful for shaping your run
quaint hinge
I also thought that for some Gods...they really don't have many defensive boons so it might be cool to see that on their keepsake
carmine ravine
actually, the keepsake is fine if u need a duo or a legend boon for the final run since the rarity increase
quaint hinge
So like Ares can get a small heal.
It's a very niche situation I think though - to need it in the final area.
trail copper
I believe keepsakes do not effect what you see in the final room though so I don't thing you can force a god in the final biome
Final rooms*
carmine ravine
rarity increase affect them, like exclusive excess and yarn of adriane
trail copper
Right and you are likely to see one of the gods of a duo if you have a boon form each god in the duo because I think you only naturally see 4-5 gods in a run baring forcing with keepsakes. But I don't think you can force a specific god in the final biome
quaint hinge
Hm.....it seems like that boons in the final room are slightly based off the boons I'm currently holding.
I've never gotten something completely random in the last room.
brisk trail
isn't it generally more likely to see gods you've already encountered anywhere
ivory mesa
whats your least favourite boon?
brisk trail
festive fog with boon that could slow enemies work very well with bows, though.
quaint hinge
Festive Fog is great.
brisk trail
yeah it pretty much stunlocks regular enemies if they don't have armor
quaint hinge
Especially if you got the duo-zeus lightning boon with it.
brisk trail
Also, the boon that grants damage reduction when Zag steps inside festive fog, is also great for when I was using fists
still a bunch of damage
on the initial hit
quaint hinge
I like Festive Fog with fists :V
ivory mesa
ill have to try it out
brisk trail
Fisticuff Fog
tbh I'm generally bad about using my cast at all
so I'm not really one to talk
ivory mesa
ive only ever got it on the sword
and i was just starting out
do u guys have any good boons for aspect of gilgamesh
hallow gulch
I love doing a run in Hades where i go "man this is a bad run im gonna not try" and end up getting to the end surpising yourself.
maiden marsh
God this game is so good
sweet basin
Hey what does the ||Aspect of Lucifer|| mean when it says "your attack ramps"?
Like increasing over time I guess?
remote moat
Yes
sweet basin
Ok cool. I have choices to make
sturdy willow
Quick question - Do you have to not turn in fish at the chef to complete the Poseidon quest? Like you have to have 25 fish all on you or you can keep turning them in, it's just 25 extra?
tropic zodiac
You can turn em in, it's fine
robust sundial
I read somewhere that if you don't turn them in each time you're in the house they vanish, hope that was fixed.
I've been visiting the head chef much more than any other character since reading that. Pit(h)y I can't give him nectar or Ambrosia, or else we'd be best buds.
gusty slate
They vanish? Never had that happen even in EA
spoiling fish maybe it can happen? dunno
quaint hinge
Holy poop. I just beat extreme measures 4 by accident.
thorny thorn
As Nyx would say, it was no accident
quaint hinge
Touche
gusty slate
EM4 is terryfing, only beat it because of shield cheese
robust sundial
the Fates willed it so.
thorny thorn
managed to beat EM4 with fists, plume pretty much maxed and 20% evasion from hermes, ||hades|| tried really hard but he just couldn't hit me :D
thorny thorn
nois :D
gusty slate
Yeah congrats!
quaint hinge
No way I really earned that. It was just lucky af.
quaint hinge
I went into that run thinking I wouldn't make it past Styx. I had only 1 death defiance left and I didn't have the boons I wanted.
gusty slate
Pretty good dodging ability there
robust sundial
the first time I used ||Lucifer's|| I was so scared of staying in one place and being bombarded with ||boiling blood|| I just hid behind a pillar and spammed ||the radioactive blob they call a "special"||.
gusty slate
Humans can do some unbelievable things, create miracles
quaint hinge
It was a terrible build because I had no mobility.
Basically a glass cannon - had to stand still to do any damage.
novel wasp
can i just say
gaunt ridge
tfw you're stuck with bad build because you're trying to farm darkness
gaunt ridge
also athena's call so bright I can't see what the boss is doing lol
gaunt ridge
was fighting Theseus with the blade
quaint hinge
The Athena call saved my ass.
gaunt ridge
so it gets a bit troubling
quaint hinge
It was a mix of that + stubborn roots.
novel wasp
you know whats actually obstructing view?
EM Bull when he crushes down the smoke basically cover a lot of things
like a very fast ferrari s🅱️inalla at you, for instance
gusty slate
Oh EM Bull is my DD sink
gusty slate
I mean I beat them, I just walk out very ragged
gaunt ridge
sometimes I think i'm getting too old for this game :/
a RL friend cleared first run already
gusty slate
Nah, you got this
We see people clear in all sorts of numbers
within 10-20 to even 100+
It's your game, no need to compare to others 👍
gaunt ridge
the way I'm thinking was, atleast I got some darkness/gems
gusty slate
Just gotta keep at it and learning
gaunt ridge
the best I did was with a bow (reached final boss then my head kind of 'no, i don't wanna. come back later.')
gusty slate
You'll also get stronger as you go
brisk trail
Is Thunder Flourish triggeriing multiple times when I special with chiron bow?
like multiple times per target
robust sundial
here's what I do : I'm trying to fulfill all the prophecies and get everyone drunk. If the final boss gives in while I do that, then good, if not... Hypnos told me "there's always next time, eh ?"
gusty slate
Uh I think there's a cooldown on when Zeus can strike on someone
0.2 sec? so multiple hits within that timespan won't count
brisk trail
but its dealing so much damage..
gusty slate
but it can strike multiple times
subtle plaza
is 10 honey for 1 ambrosia worth it?
gaunt ridge
oh hey, when can I use Ambrosia? At max friendship?
gusty slate
Yeah, trading the small resources for Ambrosia/Diamond/Titan blood is usually pretty solid
robust sundial
@subtle plaza yes, absolutely
gusty slate
Ambrosia is used for maxing friendships yea
gaunt ridge
cool
subtle plaza
ok
gusty slate
As you can gather nectar again fairly easily
gusty slate
F10 or #h1-tech-support if on Switch
crisp zodiac
Thanks.
ember surge
So, I am sorry if it is in the wrong channel. I just feel like I should share my experiences with Hades (even if it is short experience as I've played the game on my friend's PC). Also, sorry for the kinda long post! :)
I want to start from that, I am totally blind drummer, singer and sound engineer. Games are really special in my life for many years and I am fighting for blind accessibility as an accessibility consultant.
silent igloo
Hey, I just joined this discord. Playing Hades on Switch and I'm having a blast. Currently on a run in Asphodel and seeing if I can get to that realm's boss.
ember surge
I just spend maybe an hour with the game and I LOVE that so much! I remember I've tried to contact Supergiant games years ago and they said they do what they can to make their future games more accessible and well, now I feel like it is a good time to ask about that. Let me try to explain few things:
- The game is VERY playable even now. The combat is just amazing just because the sound design is so detailed!
- The audio cues for items and doors helps a LOT! Example? When I defeat the last enemy the reward lands exactly where I am standing so without my vision I can pick it up easily and after that I can hear where the doors are located (Well, kinda))
- The voice acting helps a lot describing stuff and also informing me I am further now than in the last run! SUPER USEFUL!
There's actually few things to make the whole experience totally playable and in my opinion as someone who worked with developers before it is doable and not that hard to implement.
I want to ask what you think about that and no idea if someone from Supergiant team is looking here but if not really, please help me to reach them with this message. I am pretty sure with just few small addictions the game can be fully and totally accessible for the blind gamers! 🙂 One more time, so sorry for huge message here. 😄
gusty slate
I think mods said email might be best way to contact them?
bitter needle
||testing spoiler tag||
Ok so I’m about 80 runs in and about Tisiphone: ||my little heart can’t take her trying to say Zagreus, she’s my favorite fury and I love when I get her as my fury boss||
Also I was doing a run to try to get duo boons and ended up with a legendary that I hadn’t gotten yet so that’s pretty nice
ember surge
@gusty slate I just thought that would be faster? And well, that's always better to chat isn't it? 🙂
gusty slate
Oh I'm not questioning the chat message
Don't think SGG team checks this that often is all
ember surge
Yeah, I see, thanks!
static wadi
so u won?
thorny thorn
ye, still had all dd's rofl
static wadi
@thorny thorn i messed with secret boss in tartarus and lost all dd and left with 4 hp
thorny thorn
rofl
thorny thorn
I tried secret boss with melee while he was on superspeed, and then I restarted the game
oh damn nois
I always end up losing hp to redacted if I don't have at least 3rd dash cause I'm too lazy to time my dashes x)
gusty slate
I just eat damage
thorny thorn
that ms after dash is so sweet
static wadi
wzhoooooo
thorny thorn
if you have a melee build and combine it with damage from ms boon
you deal preposterous dmg
static wadi
i was chiron actually but whtever
thorny thorn
Or Thanatos, he's pretty fast too
He doesn't teleport actually, he just moves really, really fast
(:
brisk trail
I don’t understand why people simp for Thanatos
static wadi
Tomatos?
brisk trail
There are so many other options to simp for
brisk trail
Basically an adoring fan/slave to someone. I can’t think of a better way to explain it.
static wadi
sympathy?
thorny thorn
it's a stupid term that people inject in places it doesn't belong basically
thorny thorn
Thanatos is actually older than Hades rofl
thorny thorn
enjoy giving her the special treatment
fallen violet
Using 4th aspect of rail
static wadi
yup i'm trying to make cast build with talos
static wadi
ot is it thalos?
fallen violet
and underwhelming
thorny thorn
try Zeus on attack
thorny thorn
and if you have piercing shot it's pretty imba
thorny thorn
it's ok but room clear sucks
fallen violet
get the boon that gives you stacking doom
thorny thorn
unless you get piercing shot
fallen violet
more damage per hit
static wadi
damn my build looks like no fun at all
verbal wraith
static wadi
@verbal wraith well it's all about timing
but tbh it's kinda frustrating when i have 3 perfect catches in tartarus but it's still knuckleheads!!!!!!!!!!
what perfect in this
hallow gulch
there is perfect catches?
tawdry flower
< 0.34 seconds
static wadi
i found something even more horrible than flamwheels
this is ||teleporting flamewheels||
warm surge
static wadi
what
huh
so
when i grab enemies with special talos
it's pull damage does not part of special
fresh steppe
They’ll take more damage
I don’t think pull damage is part of special
But you can check since I think base pull damage is20
fresh steppe
No weapon status effects proc priveleged
You can check if it scales by slapping a boon that boosts special and seeing if the damage is increased
static wadi
i mean i have aphro boon for special
fresh steppe
So does the pull does more damage or is it still 20
fresh steppe
So it doesn’t count as special then
fresh steppe
The pull is good for a short ranged weapon like fists
static wadi
i tried to make cast build
but it looks like it bad
1300 crit is good but it's too rare(
brisk trail
Is it just me or there is occasionally a cricket sound in the house?
ocean kayak
man, Charm can be op as hell in the right circumstances
charmed Theseus right as he started his entreatment to ares
he immediately took himself out
static wadi
@ocean kayak leg or call?
ocean kayak
the leg, but now that i think about it, i might just abuse her call the same way
robust sundial
quick question about ||hermes and charon's bet|| : If I ||beat charon once and hermes proposes the wager in the room after that asking me to beat charon twice in a row, do I need to beat him a second time or twice after being informed of the bet ?||
brisk trail
After the bet.
spare citrus
Hey quick question, can the gun special that shoots the grenade ever be a hit from the back? If so is it in regards to your position to the enemy or the Grenades?
static wadi
@ocean kayak i think u want to hide it in spoilers
spare citrus
Yes
frozen shoal
y’all play switch or pc for hades ??
static wadi
pc here
fading gazelle
Pccccccccc
frozen shoal
hm okay okay
tawdry flower
Switch
brisk trail
da computer
frozen shoal
ahh switch same i plan to play on pc as well
sweet basin
And here goes my streak. 34 wins in a row is my highest now. Forgot how it felt to lose.
quiet gull
What got you?
static wadi
i dont think he lost
calm vapor
So yea...seems like playing without Athena is ill advised lol
west urchin
Quick question, when a boon gives extra attack damage, does that also mean dash attack receives the same bonus?
gusty slate
If a boon ups attack it ups dash attack yeah
but not the other way around
Boons that support special also support the special 'dash upper' however
west urchin
tyty
stable meadow
Buff damge on dash boons
quiet gull
Dash boons are just fine
fallen violet
I agree
quiet gull
If you think they dont do enough damage, I suggest you try a Pos dash build
winter river
I finally caught all the fish in the game. Just wanted to share.
quiet gull
Congrats!
gusty slate
There's a ton of build variation so you can surprise yourself
winter river
Still need a second for ||flameeater||, ||seamare|| and ||voidskate|| to finish my codex. But its nice to have finally gotten a ||voidskate||.
i can't manage to clear the game with anything except shield
@subtle plaza just build merciful end and divine dash on everything. Its the universal build. Can't go wrong.
deep geyser
Honeslty I get like no fishing spots appearing
subtle plaza
ok?
winter river
Merciful end is a duo boon from Ares and Athena if you didn't know. Get Ares and Athena for your attack and special, then you can get the duo boon. It makes it so deflect triggers doom immediately.
winter river
It kinda is though
At least if you have god keepsakes it is.
Duos are common enough you can get them before fighting champions and redacted, and you can basically use whatever for the fights before that
static wadi
alternative mirror reroll can help u with that btw
deep geyser
I still need to unlock all those ngl. I usually stick to the ones that give things like extra health or I frames
gusty slate
I mean, it may be easy for some, not for everyone
winter river
Oh if you have a fully unlocked and upgraded mirror you should have Merciful End by mid Asphodel or early Elysium easy on a bad run
gusty slate
RNG is pretty mean
winter river
But you can force it pretty reliably just with keepsakes
gusty slate
I'd rather say it's a better chance at it, not really that reliable tbh
static wadi
yes sometimes thay just dont want to appear no matter how hard you hunt for them
and sometimes u just grab it as 3rd boon
quiet gull
I especially love getting Exclusive Access or the +pom Duo as my last boon of the run
winter river
Sometimes, but its pretty rare
static wadi
Fates have very sadistic sense of humor
winter river
Really, like of any Rogue-lyte this is the one where you can basically pick your build, aside from hammers.
If things you want aren't showing up its usually because you took to many boons in your pool.
static wadi
you take things you dont need cus there is nothing anymore to take
winter river
If you try to keep your god pool below 5 and don't put gods you don't want duos from in primary spots, you'll get your duo
static wadi
to have more things you dont need cus there is nothing anymore to choose
winter river
Take the room with a god you already have in your pool or take a room with obol/heart/pom. Make sure you don't qualify for duos you don't want. You'll get your duo.
static wadi
@winter river or not
gusty slate
I agree you have a decent chance at it, I just don't like saying it's super reliable is all 
static wadi
if u have LOTS of rerolls only
winter river
I'd call that super reliable personally
brisk trail
Thanks for the people Who talked to me yesterday, aphro is really the most op god and in combo with artemis is insane
gusty slate
Of course that's fairly reliable, but not everyone can get that
Eventually that should occur though yeah, since rerolls and such are nice
winter river
I have a friend who I've been teaching that doesn't even have rerolls or rarity talents unlocked, we've been getting our duos reliably, just a little later in the run.
Beat redacted with unupgraded zag sword. Probably the games least loved weapon.
quiet gull
All aspects can beat the game at lvl1 with no issues
winter river
My point exactly
jade crescent
I’d take zag sword over zag fists or zag gun
ember flame
Maybe not “issues”, but some I’d say can be more difficult at lower levels.
winter river
I’d take zag sword over zag fists or zag gun
@jade crescent
I mean, zag sword has a really awkward attack pattern though. Fists and Rail at least synergize really well with the Festive Fog Triad.
winter river
Dionysus+Zeus+Demeter
jade crescent
Fog with lightning and frost duos?
winter river
Yup
static wadi
lol if u have that why u ever need weapon?
winter river
Exactly
static wadi
it's like complaining about how cool rail when u win with hunting blades
gusty slate
Ice wine is pretty weird with Hera bow... although I was running ricochet so that might be why lol
jade crescent
Hera and 4th shield are so amazingly strong esp with dio cast
winter river
So the rapid attack synergizes well with zeus/dio, and then you just go full cast build after that.
static wadi
@gusty slate ||https://youtu.be/aazcy19vzfw||
hushed hamlet
Happy Saturday
gusty slate
I know it works, the delay catches me off guard
static wadi
yup
soooo
i have 8 ares boons
2 artemis boon
2 athena boon
but no hunting blades
sounds like sometimes u just cant find duo no matter how hard u try@winter river
brisk trail
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/j8lzuj/festive_fog_v50/ crazy Festive Fog boons
winter river
@static wadi What boons did you take specifically and when did you pick them up? It matters.
the earlier you meet the prereqs the better the odds, so you have to prioritize them
static wadi
i found both prereq in tartarus pretty fast
Athena was added in tartarus too cus it was trial with Ares
i didnt take any other good
for more duo chances
aaaand it didnt work
i cant see hammer upgrades in game only in wiki?
quiet gull
Yeah, that sucks
brisk trail
huh, you'd think weapon entries would have, strange
west jacinth
Heyo... so I made a thing in Google Sheets to calculate and display the Wretched Broker conversion rates based on currency type and amount. Would anyone be interested in checking it out and providing feedback?
hushed hamlet
ok gonna try aphrodite cuz EVERYONE saying shes good
west jacinth
jade crescent
mainly for the damage percentile boost to the attack, but less incoming damage is nice, and a tier 2 boon can also give you a bit more damage to enemies with it
west jacinth
Just so people can experiment, I left it open to edit for everyone on the entry cells. I wasn't sure how much of the sheet I wanted to leave open, but hey, if people want to copy it for their own use, feel free
jade crescent
for the most part it's best to leave it un-editable and let people download for their own use
west jacinth
Agreed - I realized that was a big part of it before I posted it, and cursed my lack of CSS. It could easily be a tool someone just throws up onto a webpage as well...
ember flame
Also consider keeping a “published” copy that you update, so you’re not making edits while it’s being used.
dawn violet
is hades all about runs over and over with an element of randomness, or do you carry over something between runs?
ember flame
Works well though. Nice to have the reference.
Thanks for making that.
@dawn violet There’s quite a lot that carries over between runs. Lots of upgrades, unlocks, etc.
quaint wind
some of the things like mirror upgrades stay between runs, but stuff like boons doesn't
ember flame
There’s a good bit over “overworld” ||heh|| progression that will make you stronger over multiple runs.
dawn violet
its just that i already have too many games that are mostly about doing runs with little to no permanent change. i would like something where i can control the build of my char more. oversimplified, but closer to diablo
ember flame
There are certainly ways to control your build, but there’s always RNG involved.
winter river
aaaand it didnt work
@static wadi
Well sorry to hear that. I did say 9/10, sometimes you do get unlucky. Also, strange build for Guan Yu?