h1-discussion

[gusty slate]

Worst keepsake is no keepsake

[brisk trail]

Awww Cereberus gives you something

[quaint hatch]

It's not about the game it's a bout the server

[brisk trail]

That’s so sweet

[quaint hatch]

We have a lot of young people playing

[brisk trail]

He’s a good boy

[static wadi]

2. Keep it clean. Some of our games are suitable for younger players. Please keep your language safe-for-work accordingly. Avoid derogatory or offensive language. Some language may be more offensive to others than it is to you; if you are called on your language, take the feedback.

[quaint hatch]

So it's best to keep it wholesome in general

[brisk trail]

Yes yes I know, I just thought it was hilarious

[quaint hatch]

You can be mean without swear words believe me

[brisk trail]

And ironic

[static wadi]

well yes

[brisk trail]

I just love the irony

[quaint hatch]

I don't see any irony

[brisk trail]

Zeus is such a hypocrite

That’s the irony

[static wadi]

the irony i loved is about zagreus hymn

[gusty slate]

Redbloods are pretty funny

[north bison]

i decided to play with a controller bc the movement is much easier that way, but i'm not as good at attacking now, and my hands have forgotten how to play keyboard since i've been doing controller jdffsfdrgd

[quaint hatch]

I love how zagreus is like "it's all a joke mate" and orpheus just "I know this is a test of faith

[static wadi]

@quaint hatch i like to think it's orpheus revenge joke

[quaint hatch]

Huh?

[gusty slate]

It's just Orpheus' counter play

[static wadi]

@quaint hatch orphy knows it's not true but made this song

[gusty slate]

Gotta embarass him a bit

[quaint hatch]

Gotta give it to him

That's an awesome sense of humor

[static wadi]

well it's not like that i think

but it would be funny

[gusty slate]

Zag: Oh comon Orpheus I was kidding!

Hades: HAH that's why you don't go filling his head with lies!

You reap what you sow boy

[quaint hatch]

Uploading an embarrassing video of yourself on the internet

[static wadi]

@gusty slate that was awesomw too

[quaint hatch]

But it's not a video

And you have no internet

[gusty slate]

You also have no control over when it plays

[quaint hatch]

My goal in life is that someone sings a song of my not so great deeds

[static wadi]

well not best my run

but i did it

lot of useless random boons

[merry jewel]

proud of you!

[static wadi]

Hestia feels like spear special build

but slower

with higher dmg

btw did anyone ever saw some easter eggs or something?

only thing i saw is pyre constellation

[sick mortar]

hmm

thesus on 1% hp then my laptop BSOD'd

[static wadi]

rip

[brisk trail]

Out of all the characters in this game I didn’t think I’d be simping for Athena... but she’s lowkey really attractive

[merry jewel]

...i just had a room in elysium only have 3 enemies???

??????????

[static wadi]

it happens

[sick mortar]

nothing wrong with that

[quiet gull]

Happens, yeah. Some in Tartarus have just two

[merry jewel]

ill take it tbh like

i dont mind having a nice ez room was just so confused

[brisk trail]

What’s your set up?

Everyone.

Weapon and keepsake. (Unless it’s a spoiler)

[quiet gull]

I click a weapon at semi random then pick up as many boons as I can

That's it

[static wadi]

i just pick weapon with dark harvest

[brisk trail]

You don’t use a specific keepsake?

[merry jewel]

random weapon w acorn

[brisk trail]

Some are good with a certain weapon.

[quiet gull]

Not every time, no.

[brisk trail]

I’m using Dio’s keepsake with shield.

[static wadi]

Coins or God trinket for the start

[quiet gull]

Usually start with purse cause cash is nice

[merry jewel]

my favourite weapon is the spear but. trying to get everything so

[tepid plover]

No, youre not using me

[quiet gull]

I dont think dio boons are good with shield

[tepid plover]

Wow

[quiet gull]

Maybe on special

[tepid plover]

Aight ima leave the server

[quiet gull]

Sorry bro 😦

[merry jewel]

f in chat for dio

[brisk trail]

I dont think dio boons are good with shield
@quiet gull I wouldn’t know I was about to try it out

[tepid plover]

F

[quiet gull]

Dio is better on fast hitting weapons

[brisk trail]

I just got Dio and Athena’s keepsakes

Oh okay

[quiet gull]

Or fun cast builds

[brisk trail]

How about Athena and shield?

[tepid plover]

I play with whatever weapon got the thirst

[quiet gull]

Athena goes well with anything, but isnt amaaaazing (except dash)

[mystic holly]

I've only had one clear so far and it's been with Malphon

[static wadi]

@quiet gull Chaos aspect with dio or ares special is strong

[brisk trail]

I want to use either Athena or Dio’s keepsake because they are my favorite.

[tepid plover]

Athena is just hella protective

But lacks damage

[static wadi]

@tepid plover she is top 2 dmg scales lol

[brisk trail]

Also I heard Dio and Shield go nicely together from someone earlier.

[tepid plover]

Relies on deflecting, which isn't bad but sint the best

Just the %

[mystic holly]

I'd argue that Athena's cast can be a homing bomb

[tepid plover]

They have to give her good scaling cause she lacks offense

[quiet gull]

@quiet gull Chaos aspect with dio or ares special is strong
@static wadi Uhhhh, not really? If you want to hit all specials on a single target, other boons are gonna be better

[tepid plover]

Unless you got exposed and can backstab

[quiet gull]

Good for clearing minion rooms I guess

[static wadi]

@quiet gull nope it works great

[mystic holly]

I like Athena's dash so it can help with Witch rooms.

[brisk trail]

I feel like Ares is the worst one to use

[static wadi]

u hide behind shield and poison ticking them to death

[quiet gull]

Ares is fine on slower weapons

[brisk trail]

u hide behind shield and poison ticking them to death
@static wadi bet Dio it is

[static wadi]

@brisk trail yup

[brisk trail]

They all gonna get alcohol poisoning

🍷

This is literally my favorite game of all time

I wish there was a channel where we can thank the people behind the game

Oh well

[merry jewel]

all channels work for that tbh

though i dont know how often sgg employees actually read the channels

[brisk trail]

Ya

It truly is a masterpiece.

I can see myself coming back to this game for years to come.

[static wadi]

i remeber when some guy asked if devs watch discord channels and had insta 6-7 devs reaction emotes under his replay

[brisk trail]

Honestly I can’t be sad playing this game

It’s so good

Can’t help smile and have a good time

[static wadi]

i just hope game have good final

not like Transistor

[brisk trail]

I’m still playing haven’t finished

I’m savoring it

Not trying to rush to finish it

[tepid plover]

I djd

Did

[brisk trail]

There is no rush I’m just having a good time

That’s fine

Whatever way you prefer to play

[tepid plover]

Been waiting for ending for months

[brisk trail]

I got this game like 2 days ago

[tepid plover]

Lmfao

[brisk trail]

I thought I’d like this game but man, I love this game.

It’s my favorite game now.

[tepid plover]

Same

[brisk trail]

Really surprised me how good it is.

Especially for a $25 price tag.

Other studios need to take notes.

[merry jewel]

i got it the day 1.0 came out and its been

maybe..

350 hours since it came out

and ive got like

120 hours on it

[brisk trail]

I didn’t get it day 1 because I wasn’t aware it was even out. I heard about it and thought maybe I’ll check it out one day. Then I saw it on the eshop did some research and thought hey, this looks like a game for me. Got it and now I’m obsessed. Joined the discord and everything.

[merry jewel]

mood

[brisk trail]

It’s literally my favorite game now.

[merry jewel]

i am enjoying it very very much

[brisk trail]

More so than my old time favorites.

Me too.

You know how some games get you emotional over how good they are

That’s the feeling I get with this game

Haven’t felt that in years

[tepid plover]

I started playing recently ever since 1.0 came out cause I didn't have a pc

But im done with everything lore related

[brisk trail]

I’m playing on Switch

[tepid plover]

Wish I had a switch

Id play it nonstop

[hardy escarp]

Wait do really only 3% of people have thorn of Thanatos? Geez. I mean it's hard, but not THAT hard

[quiet gull]

No, that achievment is for getting 30% I think

[brisk trail]

I never met Thanatos.

Is there a way to get him to come to me.

Or something.

Or is that a spoiler.

[hardy escarp]

I mean on steam

[quiet gull]

Yes, get to chamber 3 of Elysium

After that it's RNG

[hardy escarp]

only 3% of people have gotten it

And like yeah its difficult but like

[brisk trail]

Like I said I got this game 2 days ago and I’m savoring it not trying to rush.

[hardy escarp]

not 1 in 33 difficult

[quiet gull]

I mean on steam
@hardy escarp Again, the achievment is specific, it isnt just "meet thanatos"

[static wadi]

now do i see % of people?

[crisp zodiac]

Gotta' remember that a lot of players are newer, and a lot of folks have Hades in their backlog.

[quiet gull]

I dont have it cause I havent even bothered with many runs with the keepsake

[crisp zodiac]

Steam achievement tracking is pretty useless, honestly.

[quiet gull]

Despite having 50+ hours

Notice that the Plume achievment completion is much higher

[hardy escarp]

Gotta' remember that a lot of players are newer, and a lot of folks have Hades in their backlog.
@crisp zodiac that's fair

[quiet gull]

Cause, I imagine, more people are enticed by that particular keepsake

[crisp zodiac]

I'd think not.

[quiet gull]

(and getting it is easier than getting than to appear even once)

[crisp zodiac]

Most folks aren't confident in their ability to dodge consistently.

[quiet gull]

Noah, Lambent Plume doesnt require you to dodge at all

It gives you a chance to avoid damage entirely

[hardy escarp]

After I got than the first time he kinda just

continued showing up

almost every run

[static wadi]

even tartarus escape achievement only 61% of people

[hardy escarp]

Am I lucky or no

[quiet gull]

Honestly, I dont know how people use greater calls against trial gods for the cheevo, usually I finish the encounter much, MUCH earlier than that

[brisk trail]

Lowkey I wouldn’t be surprised if I get like 500 hours on this thing by the end of the year.

[narrow hemlock]

Friendly reminder that not everyone who played the game during early access has come back for achievements

[hardy escarp]

@brisk trail same dude

[static wadi]

@quiet gull u want advice for that?

i made it in Elisium

i killed guy

wait until he respawn

kill him again

[quiet gull]

That sounds boring and slow 😛

[static wadi]

and repeat it untill i fullfill the gauge

yup

[quiet gull]

I'd rather have fun than hunt for cheevos

[hardy escarp]

@quiet gull well I mean

[static wadi]

did it only for achievement

[hardy escarp]

its an achievement :/

[quiet gull]

Cheevo hunting is bad and you should feel bad

[static wadi]

who said it bad?

[hardy escarp]

What? that is wrong

[quiet gull]

I did, just now

[static wadi]

it's not only achievement also it's funny

[quiet gull]

(I'm mostly joking)

[static wadi]

when Ares said "you testing my patience"

[hardy escarp]

sometimes achievements can take forever to get and u can be near the end of the game, and THEN go hunting which is so much worse

[static wadi]

with SUCH voice

[hardy escarp]

Better to get it out of the way early on

[static wadi]

also i laughed so hard when i ||used Hades call vs him. "FATHER!!!!!" "WHAT????!!!!!!"||

[quiet gull]

Better to get it out of the way early on
@hardy escarp Or..... ya know..... not bother in the first place and not let something like that get in the way of fun?

[crisp zodiac]

Sorry, 4th; I looked away for a sec and didn't see the part where you shifted the conversation to Lambent Plume.

[hardy escarp]

It doesn't tho

[gusty slate]

I'm too lazy to achieve hunt

[hardy escarp]

It usually only takes like 1-2 minutes, rather than the massive time you would be spending later to even line that up correctly

If you have the opportunity, you take it

[analog wren]

do i need to be using the ||shield of chaos when i talk to chaos to unlock beowulf? ive ran into him a few times after having lvl3 on zeus and lvl 4 on chaos and he just comments on my boons||

[gusty slate]

You don't need to

[static wadi]

@analog wren nope u dont

[gusty slate]

It's big RNG assuming you have all the stuff done in pins from #h1-story-discussion

[analog wren]

yup

[gusty slate]

Just gotta keep trying, BUT

I believe you need Chaos to comment first that you're using the shield

[woven prairie]

Hey, has anyone experienced a bug with the Chaos Boon Abyssal Eclipse? The one the boosts found Darkness and Gem counts, it's not working at all for me

[gusty slate]

Doesn't it only work on room rewards?

I don't recall tbh

[analog wren]

the boon says on all found

[crisp zodiac]

All Eclipse boons have worked fine for me.

[woven prairie]

So far it hasn't worked for me on the darkness dropped from the boss kill and these gems I got in a fountain room

[analog wren]

you met the first requirements right? gone through x rooms

[opaque nexus]

So I just beat hades in 9:23

[woven prairie]

Yes it has evolved

[crisp zodiac]

Why do you think that it's not working?

[woven prairie]

Does it not stack with the Dark Thirst?

[gusty slate]

It should

Hmmm

[crisp zodiac]

How many gems did you get? Yes, it stacks with Dark(er) Thirst additively.

[woven prairie]

Wait, on Aphrodise how many gems do you get for a reward? is it 5?

[crisp zodiac]

If you pick up gemstones with no boosts, it's 5, or 10 on an enhanced reward.

[gusty slate]

the normal room gems are pretty low in number

[crisp zodiac]

It's 6 with Darker Thirst because that's the 20% boost.

[woven prairie]

OMG I'm such an idiot, sorry for getting everyone worked up I got 10

For some reason I thought the base was 10 sorry

[crisp zodiac]

If you have an 80% Eclipse, it's not 80% of 6, but 5, so you get 10, i.e. the same value as a Chthonic Key.

[woven prairie]

ANd I forgot the first boss only gives 50 darkness

[crisp zodiac]

No worries.

[woven prairie]

So it is working as intended

[crisp zodiac]

I have a doc that goes into chamber reward analysis.

[woven prairie]

Oh heck yes

[crisp zodiac]

Can't share it because I can't attach files here, evidently.

Any mods around?

[gusty slate]

Might just be faster to pm

[static wadi]

@crisp zodiac links should work

or pm yes

[crisp zodiac]

No link. I could upload it to GameFAQs or something later tonight.

Okay, it's in Peach's hands. I'ma take a nap and hunt some monsters.

[static wadi]

?

[quiet gull]

You can upload to imgur and link it here

[crisp zodiac]

Don't have an Imgur account.

They take PDFs?

[quaint wind]

yeah images and files can't be uploaded here, you have to link it through something else

[crisp zodiac]

Whatever. Nap time. @me with feedback later.

[static wadi]

wanted to try cast build with Talos

found cast only in 30+ room

found athena leg so it still can be winnable

[gusty slate]

Always winnable you got this 👍

[velvet stream]

does anyone know why I cant unlock the last version of the gun weapon?

[static wadi]

@velvet stream for secret aspects read pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

@gusty slate 8 hp and 0 dd left after 3rd boss(

[velvet stream]

@static wadi Thanks so much!

[static wadi]

@velvet stream np

[quiet gull]

@gusty slate 8 hp and 0 dd left after 3rd boss(
@static wadi Gotta dodge better than that, boyo!

[static wadi]

@quiet gull bad build

i wanted cast build but could find good cast

took pos but too late and didnt lvld it

[quiet gull]

Gotta use charms for that boyo

And rerolls

Have another go whydontcha

[static wadi]

rerols can reroll god

but cant reroll boon he gives u

[gusty slate]

The other reroll can

[static wadi]

yeah i know but i have what i have

[gusty slate]

Ah I see, Good luck then!

[pearl sparrow]

Wow, I never thought I could finish the game with that Demeter's cast

[quiet gull]

yeah i know but i have what i have
@static wadi Reroll the mirror and take the other reroll, then!

[static wadi]

@quiet gull in a middle of a run?

[quiet gull]

Wow, I never thought I could finish the game with that Demeter's cast
@pearl sparrow No joke, Crystal beam is one of the strongest casts in the game

[static wadi]

great advice thx

[quiet gull]

I mean, if you wanted to go for a cast build from the start, then that's what you need to do

[gusty slate]

Not required

[pearl sparrow]

@quiet gull just realized that. I think I have a personal record now. Shortest time to beat ||Hades||

Of course I had that duo boon, which makes the cast more effective, and Hermes gave 2 more.

It was a cast-and-run game

[quiet gull]

Yeah it gets kinda ridic

[brisk trail]

Hermes cup is live guys! If you want to see really high-level Hades play. Check #self-promotion . :3 (I'm not involved.)

[quiet gull]

Athena duo is amazing too

[worn wren]

Hi guys, i made 39 runs, and i still can't give Hades a second Nectar. This is a bug?

[static wadi]

@worn wren nope

[worn wren]

so... i jus have to wait till a oportunity come?

[robust jasper]

Yeeeee

[worn wren]

...oh boy

[quiet gull]

so... i jus have to wait till a oportunity come?
@worn wren You have to ||see the credits first||

[worn wren]

oh, thanks

❤️

[quiet gull]

Most characters will get a lock, btw, just not at the second heart

And you have to do various things to unlock them

[worn wren]

i see

so ima gonna try to get gud

xD

[brazen sky]

Hi guys! How do I get past Achilles’ heart lock, or any heart lock for that matter? Is it just waiting until a certain point in the story? Does it defer from character to character?

[undone tide]

Hypnos’ heart finally unlocked for me today

[static wadi]

@brazen sky just keep playing

usually locked heart means u have to do something for them

or reach some point in story progression

or just keep talking and meeting them

[quiet gull]

Bear in mind Nyx is a bottleneck for a LOT of these quests, and story conversations can be backed up quite a bit, considering you only talk once per run

[static wadi]

whew

thx Charon for 2 DD in wells

i guess i'm not enough jojo fun to use fists

redacted fight was hard

[quiet gull]

Fists really depends a lot on extra dashes, I find

[static wadi]

as i said i wanted talos cast build

yaaaay i made lute prophecy

[merry jewel]

lads what do i do with darkness when ive levelled the entire mirror to max

[static wadi]

@merry jewel lol u sure u did?

[merry jewel]

i havent but im getting there

[static wadi]

well

[merry jewel]

do i just keep accumulating darkness forever

[static wadi]

1st of all

last perk is very expensive

[merry jewel]

which one,

[static wadi]

2nd - there will be some... possibilities for darkness

[merry jewel]

stares

like

[static wadi]

last

[merry jewel]

the ||resource guy?||

?

[static wadi]

@merry jewel y

[merry jewel]

✅

[static wadi]

and rerolls are

not cheap u know

[merry jewel]

bc currently i have like 5k darkness just sitting around

[static wadi]

@merry jewel did u unlock||sigil||

[quiet gull]

bc currently i have like 5k darkness just sitting around
@merry jewel Why? just dump it in the mirror

If you dont like what you end up with a single key will refund it all anyways

[merry jewel]

yes gznm and i will when i get home lmao doing ||hades|| rn

[tawdry flower]

@merry jewel did you also level up / unlock the alternate abilities in the mirror?

[merry jewel]

yes ginge

[old tinsel]

Will the cross save feature work from switch to pc? The description just says from pc to switch.

[merry jewel]

havent levelled them all to max but most of them i think

[tawdry flower]

There’s a mission with Nyx/Chaos later that needs 3142

[left elk]

So... getting heroic fog cast on the final shield aspect with +1 cast and +67% cast damage is pretty silly. Hitting a lot harder than aphrodite call even. Lol.

[merry jewel]

yeah ive already finished that

[tawdry flower]

And then themes and one thing at the building contractor dude requiring large amounts

[merry jewel]

yeah thats most all i seem to need ti for now

what do i do w it after ive finished those?

[spring kraken]

Hyyype.Rigth now in near 10-15 minets get start Hades hermes speed run cup.with Dusa\aphro voice actor as special guest.

[brisk trail]

Anyone else not like Dusa?

[sleek radish]

question what are DoTs

[brisk trail]

Damage over Time.

[sleek radish]

ty ty

[tawdry flower]

Nothing as far as I know. Darkness rooms will just be for the extra stuff

[brisk trail]

Stuff like Hangover that you set and forget.

[tawdry flower]

Dusa is best girl, excuse you

[merry jewel]

i love dusa

[brisk trail]

She annoys me lowkey, her voice, her obsession with you.

Just her vibe.

[spring kraken]

she in live so CUTE

[merry jewel]

im not dating her or megaera but

dusa is adorable and so sweet and i love her

[tawdry flower]

She has a cute vibe, and you end up as ||best friends||

[merry jewel]

shes jus so cuuuuute

[brisk trail]

I swear if anyone says Zeus-

[static wadi]

what means shag

[spring kraken]

i dont know you read my previos message. rigth now online translation with voice actor of dusa)

[merry jewel]

its inappropriate

[brisk trail]

Lol

[merry jewel]

however

shes nice

[brisk trail]

Not sure why but I find her the most attractive

[tawdry flower]

Just don’t say that out loud to the gods

[merry jewel]

its the kind but firm attitude

and also just her appearance i guess

[brisk trail]

Honestly I think she looks really good with that dark skin tone

I can’t imagine her any other way now

[merry jewel]

i just see thanatos and immediately die

[quaint wind]

keep it clean everyone

[static wadi]

@quaint wind i'm washing my hand at least 3 times per day

thx for care

[brisk trail]

I’ll go wash my hands rn

Don’t punish us

But in all seriousness don’t worry

We will chill

[merry jewel]

i only have 2 mirror skills left to max, what do i do w darkness after that?

i have nothing left in the contractor that requires darkness + ive done nyx's favour

[static wadi]

@merry jewel resources?

[brisk trail]

I have no idea but whoever answers him spoiler tag your thing

[sharp fossil]

i only have 2 mirror skills left to max, what do i do w darkness after that?
@merry jewel ||There’s a story thing worth like 3k that will pop up at some point if you haven’t seen it already, after which you’re done. There is a late game aesthetic/vanity thing that you’ll be able to sink the vast amount of darkness you will acquire into, tho||

[merry jewel]

||ive done the 3k thing already, and for whatever reason my resource guy hasnt popped up yet, so im not sure how to get him||

[sharp fossil]

i have no idea tbh

[brisk trail]

Guys I gtg what happens if I quit?

[sharp fossil]

mid run?

[merry jewel]

if you mouse over quit and it says youre fine then youre fine

[brisk trail]

Yes

Mid run

[merry jewel]

if you mouse over it and it says to finish the room then finish the room

[sharp fossil]

it’ll save at the beginning of every room

[tawdry flower]

@merry jewel ||have you maxed out Hades||?

[merry jewel]

youll be able to load the last chamber

[brisk trail]

Says progressed saved 1 minute ago

So is that fine?

[merry jewel]

@tawdry flower ||not yet, i havent gotten any nectar prompt for him yet \:||

yes

[brisk trail]

Should I press quit?

[merry jewel]

yes

[brisk trail]

Okay cool

[sharp fossil]

yeah should be fine

[tawdry flower]

@merry jewel Have you finished up through Credits?

[merry jewel]

ive finished up to ||persephone's return with in the blood and ive escaped a few times since that||

[static wadi]

omg erebus with catwheels

[merry jewel]

im still trying to figure out why the chariots meow

[tawdry flower]

A few more runs and checking in with ||Hades|| should work

[merry jewel]

okay, ill try that!

[sand stump]

omg erebus with catwheels
@static wadi yup i hate that

[static wadi]

@sand stump i won but

it was some panic

omgdashdashdashomomg

[tepid plover]

Wait @sharp fossil what is 3k

[sand stump]

When i do it in Tartarus with fist, i can hardly do it

[sharp fossil]

3k is shorthand for 3000

or do you mean what is it spent on?

[tepid plover]

That yes

[sand stump]

I think 3k is || Nyx||?

Used to be 8888

[sharp fossil]

||to progress the nyx/chaos story||

[tepid plover]

Oh they lowered to 3k ok

[sharp fossil]

yeah

[tepid plover]

Yeah it was 8888 before

[sharp fossil]

i bought it when it was 8888 lol

what a good time

[tepid plover]

Me too

What a grind

[ocean kayak]

do you guys think the fanboys in the stadium during Theseus' bouts scream like teen girls whenever flying blood hits them in the face

[sharp fossil]

i just pulled some darkness out of fated authority for it

[tepid plover]

Now im drowning in darkness lol

[sharp fossil]

i spent all mine on badges

and i’m still not done with them

how many even are there lmao

[tepid plover]

Well me too

Yeah

How many

[sand stump]

I am only at Delta

Seem to be quite a way to go

[static wadi]

lol zeus quote about he is Zags father

i guess it's another ref to myths

[hardy escarp]

Guys after only 5 days I ||Made it to the credits!||

[merry jewel]

congrats

[gusty slate]

I still need to get to the credits lul

[static wadi]

stupid stubborn deviance

this perk is so bad

who even take it

[merry jewel]

its a newbie trap imo

useful sometimes but overall i think dd is better

[keen hawk]

is that the once per room you get up one

[merry jewel]

yes

[keen hawk]

oh it sucks

[merry jewel]

its not awful but like

its also

not good

[static wadi]

so they've completely reworked dusa story huh?

[narrow hemlock]

if you think stubborn defiance is bad, its because you've never been in a situation where you need it

[static wadi]

@narrow hemlock yes

[narrow hemlock]

if you're running max lasting consequences, you need stubborn defiance

[static wadi]

but i've been in situation when it completely ruined my run

so....

[narrow hemlock]

its risk and reward. but stubborn defiance has its place in the game

[ivory estuary]

To get the Prophecy completed to ||beat charon twice|| what do I need to do? Between different runs I ||beat him both of the times in which I saw the option to steal. Do you need to do it twice in the same run? Do you need to do it in sucessive runs?||

[narrow hemlock]

unless you plan on going for a no hit run, you cant do a max lc run without using stubborn to supplement your healing

[candid bolt]

did you have the prophecy already active?

[split swift]

Interesting, I didn't even think of that use case

[narrow hemlock]

@ivory estuary you cant encounter him twice in one run, its consecutive attempts at the fight

[ivory estuary]

If I skip the option to ||steak once|| did that mess it up?

I may have, i'm not sure.

[narrow hemlock]

sometimes the first fight you do doesnt count, depending on when the prophecy triggered, so try again

[ivory estuary]

But i'm sure I won both of the fights I had with him.

doah

[static wadi]

@ivory estuary i do not think if u skip it counts as lose

only if u die

confronting him

[merry jewel]

||got the resource director||

F

[ivory estuary]

ty

[merry jewel]

good luck with the charon prophecy!

havent finished it myself yet

[brisk trail]

Is it worth visiting ||chaos||? I visited them once and lost health just to do so.

[merry jewel]

yes, it is

yeah i was gonna ask if you wanted spoilers or not

[brisk trail]

I don’t

[static wadi]

chaos gives very godd thing

i never ever missing opportunity

to meet them

[merry jewel]

gznm whats your native language?

[static wadi]

why do u ask?

[merry jewel]

just curious tbh

[static wadi]

russian

[merry jewel]

ahhh nice

[narrow hemlock]

chaos boons can make your runs

if chaos smiles upon you with good fortune anyway lol

[merry jewel]

im bilingual myself so was curious sorry abt that haha

and yeah chaos can have some really good boons

sometimes theyre mediocre but imo worth checking anyway

[brisk trail]

Is ||Chaos|| made up? Or are they actually from mythology?

I never heard of them before.

[merry jewel]

afaik nobody in this is made up

aside from non-god characters like dusa

[static wadi]

Speaking about great chaos opportunity https://i.imgur.com/KqyqR45.png

[merry jewel]

oh my god

[static wadi]

@brisk trail chaos was before all

and all become from chaos

[merry jewel]

chaos is the arceus of greek mythology, if thats any help at all LMAO

[static wadi]

what is arceus?

[merry jewel]

in pokemon is essentially creator of everything

[static wadi]

...ok

[pale steeple]

To the people at Supergiant that decided to put the soundtrack on the iTunes store:Round of applause

[merry jewel]

it is not very helpful but was the first similar character i could think of

and pokemon being popular maybe is helpful for someone out there. who knows

[pale steeple]

In Greek Mythology, Chaos is said to have created everything

[static wadi]

wtf even i have no dodge chance i saw dodge animation

[main nova]

um im stuck in a room with someone singing and I can't leave. does anyone know what to do?

[ocean kayak]

what exactly is the "ambiguity bonus" offered by the heart of stone?

[main nova]

nvm

[static wadi]

@ocean kayak self-confidence

[ocean kayak]

............?

[static wadi]

jk

afaik it gives you nohing

so as i said

it's self-confidence

[brisk trail]

Is there a way to turn auto save off

This is the farthest I have ever come

[static wadi]

lol no

[brisk trail]

Or should I just try my best

[static wadi]

@brisk trail u always just try ur best

and win

or lose

[brisk trail]

True but has anyone actually been able to win through auto save

[static wadi]

but anyway there is no sense just stnding and reflexing

[brisk trail]

I’m worried I made a mistake choosing auto save

[static wadi]

wdym

[brisk trail]

I was thinking about it just now and can’t you just repeat the same thing over and over if your not doing auto save

[static wadi]

ehm

[quaint wind]

i don't think autosave is optional

[static wadi]

i still dont get it

[flat vapor]

i'm confused

auto save is the only method of saving hades has

[static wadi]

same thought

[brisk trail]

I thought the first file was auto save and the others aren’t

I’m using the first file

Whatever lol forget what I said

I’ll just keep trying over and over idc

This game is fun as hell anyways

[static wadi]

I’ll just keep trying over and over idc
@brisk trail that's only way to play games like this

[brisk trail]

YO I JUST RAN INTO THE 2nd BOSS FOR THE FIRST TIME! ||How does this thing fight I have my game paused rn??||

[quiet gull]

The entire conceit of roguelites is you dont get to save and redo fights

[static wadi]

@brisk trail why dont you find out by yourself?

[quiet gull]

Lose to him until you learn, boyo!

[brisk trail]

This is the farthest I’ve gotten lol

[tawdry flower]

@brisk trail it depends, it changes the attack patterns between three main versions

[static wadi]

it's much more intresting imo

[brisk trail]

True

[tawdry flower]

Make sure you attack the heads, attacking necks doesn’t do anything

[quiet gull]

Ginge, not the first few times

[brisk trail]

Fair point

I’ll just fight it

[tawdry flower]

@quiet gull yeah, but I don’t remember the default XD

[static wadi]

@tawdry flower Waves head. Summon head. Fiery head. Stompy head.

did i forgot something?

[tawdry flower]

Ah, 4

[static wadi]

oh yes arrow head

so it's even 5

[tawdry flower]

My favorite will always be ||EM2||

[static wadi]

||em2 ||was way way way way more painful than ||em3|| idk why

[tawdry flower]

Ehhhh

||EM2|| is fine if you have range

[static wadi]

@tawdry flower if

and enough damage

[tawdry flower]

I play mostly Bow/Gun/Shield

[brisk trail]

I lost to it but I had it on half health

Oh well it’s fine

I’ll just keep trying and trying until I get stronger

[tawdry flower]

That’s the basic idea

[quiet gull]

Atta boy

[brisk trail]

I used to have a hard time with the first boss and creamed them last time.

[static wadi]

other way you doomed to dance among head and fire untill you die

when i only start to play Hades

only way for comfort ||EM2|| was Chiron

in all other weap it was at least 1 DD lost

or even hi hypnos

[quiet gull]

Remember your ABDs

Always Be Dashing

[static wadi]

@quiet gull it's tottaly different for ||em2||

u cant just mindlessly dash

[gusty slate]

Gotta be real precise in there

I mean you can

[static wadi]

it kills u

[dusk pasture]

I just got this game recently and only joined to say

[gusty slate]

I dash widely in there seems fine xD

[dusk pasture]

It is one of the most gorgeous games I've ever played.

[gusty slate]

Welcome to the Underworld @dusk pasture !

[dusk pasture]

👀 An alarming welcome

[static wadi]

enjoy you staying

and remeber

there is no escape

@gusty slate 1 uncareful dash can throw you out in fire

[gusty slate]

It'll buff out

[static wadi]

how

should i understand it

[tepid plover]

Whenever I kill the final boss, theres no fish, but when there is, I lose

Fml

[gusty slate]

The fish have been bribed

[quiet gull]

u cant just mindlessly dash
@static wadi I've done it several times

Mindlessly dash, no. ABD is about precision and intent!

[gusty slate]

but I mindlessly dash, especially with a pos dash build going!

[quiet gull]

Then you're doing it right!

[cloud apex]

My intent is to dodge as many hits as possible by hitting a dash button and pretending I know how to plau this game

Is that good enough?

[gusty slate]

Always

[thorny thorn]

man, I need to find the common fish for the journal entry, but every time I purposely force a normal catch I catch the 1/21 rare fish instead, like 5x in a row now, what the heck :D

[gusty slate]

The fish whisperer

[thorn tendon]

I HAVE a question

what is the sound effect that announces Chaos' presence

slash

what was used to make it

it's very iconic/particular/i don't know

"bweea"

[static wadi]

it's sound of glass full of eternity falled from the table

[gusty slate]

Proxy have mercy

[static wadi]

he is just doing his job

[lost citrus]

Am I the only one who thinks the standard enemies are a little underwhelming compared to how awesome everything else is

[static wadi]

wdym

[gusty slate]

The standard enemies are terrifying

[lost citrus]

Like here's a little metal top thing, here's a rat

Centaurs! Snakes! Other scary Greek things!

[thorn tendon]

it was a serious question actually

[lost citrus]

The satyr is a good example of a good enemy design

[thorn tendon]

guess it's an @primal plinth q

[gusty slate]

Yeah, I just don't know the sound source... it might've been mentioned in one of their sound QAs

[static wadi]

u mean u expected more close to greek myths enemies?

[thorn tendon]

(WOOO finally got the last bit of one of Chaos' two Minor Prophecies heck yeah)

[hushed hamlet]

HAPPY CLEAR FRIDAY

[lost citrus]

@static wadi yeah among other things

[hushed hamlet]

I got shield, gun, fist, bow

[lost citrus]

Just more memorable and such

[hushed hamlet]

Now the harder ones sword and spear

[static wadi]

@lost citrus well i agree with you

it could be a good thing

but most of you enemies are just souls

btw there are gorgons and cyclops

[lost citrus]

Yeah I know, I just think there's room for them to improve the enemies and also add more variety

[thorn tendon]

also anybody got a hi rez pic of the food items

the ones that I keep thiking are a gyro with fries

[lost citrus]

It's the only thing keeping it from 10/10 imo

[thorn tendon]

but cannot confirm bc I tend to eat them before screenshotting

[small aurora]

Eat what?

[static wadi]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/c/c6/Food.png/revision/latest?cb=20190126025916

that one?

[thorn tendon]

YES

IT IS A GYRO WITH FRIES

... I want greek food ;-;

[static wadi]

@thorn tendon i can confirm it's very greek potatoes

[thorn tendon]

(Ironically, fries did not exist in Greece until after 1492, because potatoes are from South America)

But well, the realm of the Dead doesn't care about stupid things like Time or Space 😛

(and yes, every single european based medieval fantasy game you've ever played that has included potatoes, tomatoes, or corn? completely wrong and historically inaccurate. Potatoes weren't even introduced to Ireland until 1589)

[static wadi]

@thorn tendon well mb it's not potatoes

but SOUL of potatoes

[thorn tendon]

yes

[static wadi]

when potatoes dies it's soul comes to underworld

to become food for dead

[thorn tendon]

hades sent off a letter to Supay of the Ukhu Pacha like "hey I heard you guys over in Peru have these really cool vegetables"

[static wadi]

[thorn tendon]

"I'll trade you"

[small aurora]

That looks tasty as heck

[thorn tendon]

It makes me REALLY want a fresh hot gyro with fries ;-; damn you Covid

[gusty slate]

Can confirm, much tasty. 5 second rule though

[thorn tendon]

lol

every time I see one I'm like mmmm gyros

[small aurora]

Its too hot in the underworld for germs to exist!

[gusty slate]

Made Gyros from scratch once, took forever

[thorn tendon]

everyone's dead anyway

even the germs

[small aurora]

And pretty sure zagreus has more important things to worry about than germs on his food

[thorn tendon]

Hades Themed Meal: fresh hot gyro with fries, side of fresh cut pomegranate. drink... is Nectar a mead, or a wine? :\a

I mean, you can/should ALSO have red wine. Dio insists.

[small aurora]

Nectar is probably mead

As it was considered a drink for the gods

[thorn tendon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakomelo , oh, hmm

(But mead WAS the preferred drink in the golden age of Greece as well, so)

[quiet gull]

Well, nectar used to be called ambrosia in the game before ambrosia was added

[small aurora]

Sore throat? you need ALCOHOl!
Sone kid with sore throat: but im underage.
Doctor: ALCOHOL OR SUFFER

Basically^

[quiet gull]

It's probably just watered down ambrosia

[thorn tendon]

I'm more talking about if one were to make a Hades themed meal tho

In which case, alas, we mortals do not have access to ambrosia

Oh, and a really nice greek style grilled fish

With onions

man with the exception of the gyro, I could make this (I do not have the time or patience to make a home made gyro)

(ironically, I can and have made mead. If I were really trying for something approaching ambrosia, I'd make the tupelo-saffron mead I keep meaning to make. Unfortunately, my saffron didn't bloom this year, and COVID means I'm broke)

(damn squirrels ate all my bulbs)

god I REALLY want a gyro now lol

[static wadi]

what is gyro

[ocean kayak]

i think this somebody asked this recently but is it possible to have a boon from every god before facing Theseus?

[static wadi]

@ocean kayak no

[thorn tendon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_(food)

[static wadi]

even if u find 4 in tatrarus

[eager path]

I'm more talking about if one were to make a Hades themed meal tho
@thorn tendon Are we talking about Supergiant's response to the "Travis Scott" meal?

lol

[static wadi]

u can force 5th and 6th

[thorn tendon]

No, I have no idea what that is!

I just really like food.

who is even a Travis Scott

[static wadi]

and Theseus still have 2 more options

[barren ocean]

anyone got tips for increasing completion times

[calm laurel]

Greek Buritto

[barren ocean]

I keep getting around 16min

[eager path]

I keep getting around 16min
@barren ocean Wait for all bosses?

[barren ocean]

for total complete

[eager path]

oof I wish I could complete the game

[barren ocean]

not sure if this should be #h1-builds-and-combat

[eager path]

I mean u could try looking at Hades speedruns

[barren ocean]

Take your time!

[eager path]

see what the meta is for speedruners

on youtube

[barren ocean]

I have looked at yt speed runs and i dont understand how they do they do things

lmao

Im not tryin to like speed run for real

just wondering how good i can get

[hushed hamlet]

Whats the secret to get boons that havent shown up yet

[eager path]

I mean you can try asking them maybe you will be lucky

and they will reply

[hushed hamlet]

All my fates list is like 1 boon away

[barren ocean]

@hushed hamlet check if they have prerequisites

[static wadi]

@hushed hamlet some have prereq

and some are just rare

[hushed hamlet]

Oh really? Crap

[barren ocean]

yeee

[hushed hamlet]

High tolerance is an example

[static wadi]

like Exit wounds for example

[barren ocean]

check the Codex

[hushed hamlet]

Gotcha

[static wadi]

@barren ocean only if he has upgrade for codex

[hushed hamlet]

I just want gemstones

[static wadi]

he can see boons

[barren ocean]

Oh wait i forgot about that

Do you Converse

Its bought from the Contractor

[hushed hamlet]

Yeah i never bothered to check the codex

I did get it.. im at heat 2m

[barren ocean]

thats endgame so spoiler tag any thing about those types of run

[opaque orbit]

lately I've been hunting all those boons with prerequisites

[bitter needle]

Hello! I’m new here:3

[gusty slate]

Welcome to the Underworld!

[barren ocean]

Welcome!

[bitter needle]

Thank you!

[opaque orbit]

I think I have all of the individual god boon prophecies done

[hushed hamlet]

I didnt know about prereqs i thought all the boons are random

[opaque orbit]

now I just need the legendary and duo ones

[hushed hamlet]

Tbh

[bitter needle]

I started playing Hades like 3 days ago and I’ve already been on like 70 runs :’) it’s too fun

[barren ocean]

lmao same

but yea they do have prereqs

and ayy beau

welcome to the fam

[opaque orbit]

boons have prerequisites because they're based on abilities other boons have

[hushed hamlet]

Niiice beau

[bitter needle]

I’ve never played a rogue like game before (unless you count hollow knight?) so it’s totally new but I’m having a total blast

[static wadi]

some duos are even t4

[hushed hamlet]

Im at 39 attempts / 4 successes

[barren ocean]

ayyyy

nice job

[opaque orbit]

for instance, zeus's storm lightning boon, which makes chain lightning effects bounce more, won't show up unless you have a boon that makes chain lightning

[bitter needle]

@hushed hamlet nice!!!

[hushed hamlet]

Im having major issues clearing with sword and spear idk

Just gonna roll through it

[barren ocean]

which aspects are you using

[opaque orbit]

shield has always been the easiest for me

[barren ocean]

Cause sword aspects are quite different

[static wadi]

@hushed hamlet i can make spear work only with Special spam builds

[barren ocean]

😮 oh really

I love Varatha

[hushed hamlet]

Spear i have achilles

Sword right now nemesis

[barren ocean]

Have you tried Poseidon + Exit Wounds

[opaque orbit]

achilles is currently my preferred spear aspect

[barren ocean]

on Styguis

Its a high dmg build

[opaque orbit]

ah that sounds like a nice combo

[hushed hamlet]

I'll try it.. i got enough blood to unlock it

Kuroui

[barren ocean]

Oh only unlock if you want to

[opaque orbit]

I got a ton of zeus boons on my zeus shield last run and it was great

[barren ocean]

no pressure!

[quiet gull]

Poseidon is the best cast weapon

[barren ocean]

You can also increse the crit chance on Nemesis with Artemis

[bitter needle]

The bow with aspect of chiron is broken as heck

[hushed hamlet]

My favorite weapon is still talos fist

I felt so op lol

[barren ocean]

Talos is fun

[bitter needle]

Especially if you get a daedelus hammer with +4 shots per volley

[opaque orbit]

talos fist is nice

[hushed hamlet]

Talos fist + poseidon buffs was my jam

[barren ocean]

I actually like Coronact the least

[static wadi]

Chiron has some weaknesses but it's cool

[opaque orbit]

always feels good to have an option against enemies at long range

[static wadi]

Chiron is slow

[opaque orbit]

especially in asphodel when some of them can just float over lava

[hushed hamlet]

So how does rail gun hera work? You gotta get dmged first?

[static wadi]

Chiron wants proper hammers

[bitter needle]

I only don’t like Chiron with the mini mobs like the skulls and small rats and stuff

[hushed hamlet]

Seems like im missing something

[barren ocean]

Isnt Hera the loading one

[static wadi]

Chiron wants lot's of blood to be good

[opaque orbit]

hera is the loading bow

[hushed hamlet]

Oops eris i mean

[barren ocean]

When you cast

Oh

[hushed hamlet]

Eris railgun

[bitter needle]

I think it’s worth the blood tbh

[barren ocean]

which is eris again

I dont use Exagryph a lot

[static wadi]

@bitter needle for me Chiron is just weaker version of Chaos aspect

[opaque orbit]

eris is you get damage boost if you hit yourself with special

[hushed hamlet]

You absorb special bomv

[barren ocean]

Ohhh

Special and stand in circle

[hushed hamlet]

Then get dmg boost

[barren ocean]

yea

[hushed hamlet]

Lol hitting myself? Damn

[opaque orbit]

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think it self-damages you with the special

[barren ocean]

it doesnt do dmg

[bitter needle]

Honestly exagryph is my least favorite weapon, it feels kinda weak in comparison to the others:/ does anyone have any boon suggestions for exagryph?

[hushed hamlet]

Wait it doesn't?

[opaque orbit]

you just kind of stand in the explosion and get explosion juice

[barren ocean]

Unless you get the Daeleaus aspect for it

Yea i always special on myself if im swarmmed

[hushed hamlet]

Ooh wait galaxy brain omg

[static wadi]

@opaque orbit it doesnt untill u have special hammer upgrade

[barren ocean]

Lol Converse

[hushed hamlet]

Does eris trigger revenge effects?

[barren ocean]

🤔

[static wadi]

@hushed hamlet if u have hazard bomb

[opaque orbit]

no, I don't think it would

[static wadi]

some of this may be

[barren ocean]

with hazard bomb only

[opaque orbit]

unless ^^^

[barren ocean]

yea

[hushed hamlet]

Damn

[barren ocean]

But does Hazard Bomb trigger revenge?

[static wadi]

@barren ocean not like Ares or Dem revenge

[hushed hamlet]

I usually dont take revenge boons at all tbh

[static wadi]

mb Aphro

[barren ocean]

Ah

[hushed hamlet]

Because i hate getting hit

[static wadi]

or Athena

[barren ocean]

lol fair

[hushed hamlet]

And i usually do chaos gamblor

[opaque orbit]

I don't go out of my way for revenge boons

[hushed hamlet]

Lol

[barren ocean]

Ares Revenge Duo tho

[opaque orbit]

except my last run when I was going for zeus ares duo

[barren ocean]

yeaaaa

the good stuff

[hushed hamlet]

Which was that again?

[opaque orbit]

for the prophecy

[hushed hamlet]

Lightning rod?

[barren ocean]

Auto triggers Revenge dmg wihtout taking dmg

[hushed hamlet]

Lightning rod is sooo good for me lol

[static wadi]

@hushed hamlet revenge activates sometimes

[hushed hamlet]

Oh that one

[barren ocean]

Lightning rod is also good. Thats Artemis and Zeus

[opaque orbit]

you need a zeus boon, an ares boon, and a revenge boon

but that wasn't even close to the strongest aspect of my build

I had thunder flourish on zeus shield

so blitz disc was chunking out lightning with every single hit

I had high voltage for extra area, double strike for ...double strike

[barren ocean]

XD

nice

[opaque orbit]

and splitting bolt

so usually when I'm using shield my main weak point is dps

uhhhhh not this time

[barren ocean]

XD

[hushed hamlet]

Thats how i got my clear with hera bow

[opaque orbit]

I even took the opportunity to bring the chaos egg to the end

[hushed hamlet]

Zeus boons up

[barren ocean]

Feelsgoodman

lmao

[hushed hamlet]

With artemis support fire

[barren ocean]

Ayyy

[hushed hamlet]

Ans lightning rod

[barren ocean]

support fire is awesome

[opaque orbit]

what is the best boon in the game

[static wadi]

@hushed hamlet my favorite build with Hera is Dio cast with both duos for that

[opaque orbit]

and why is it deflect dash

[barren ocean]

LOL

Valid

[gusty slate]

Didn't think there was a best boon

[hushed hamlet]

I need a good clear with wine daddy

Poor wine daddy

[barren ocean]

dash is joking XD

but also its a great boon

[opaque orbit]

I will never not take deflect dash

[hushed hamlet]

I might go dio spear

[barren ocean]

I actually sometimes take Poseidon dash

For dmgs + Rupture

[opaque orbit]

although when I can't get deflect dash I'll settle for hunter dash

[hushed hamlet]

Then finally lewd woman

[barren ocean]

On all weapons M-Dash?

[hushed hamlet]

Lol funny i just got a clear with ice granny

[barren ocean]

I never take Hunter-dash on bow

[hushed hamlet]

Before lewd

[opaque orbit]

actually yeah I wouldn't want hunter dash on bow or gun

[barren ocean]

mostly melee

ye

[hushed hamlet]

Im sorry aphrodite your boons are kinda ass?

[opaque orbit]

but I don't really like bow or gun

[barren ocean]

NO THEY ARE NOTTTT

yo

[hushed hamlet]

Wat

[barren ocean]

weakness is so goooddddddd

increase suseptibilty to dmg

you MELT

[hushed hamlet]

Weakness over doom?

[static wadi]

aphro is one of the best boon in game

[hushed hamlet]

No way

[barren ocean]

duo them

[opaque orbit]

I don't love weakness that much

but

[static wadi]

best scales for dmg

[barren ocean]

^

[hushed hamlet]

Her cast isnt that great

[static wadi]

lots of defencive options

[opaque orbit]

aphrodite boons for attack and special tend to have a ton of damage boost

[barren ocean]

its p short

[hushed hamlet]

And that aid is bad

[static wadi]

and good status

[barren ocean]

i mean its playstyle and build right

all dependant

I ran aphro cast with Ares Duo

and that was great

[hushed hamlet]

I will give apro another shot

Maybe apro and dio?

[barren ocean]

all the boons and good in their own way

[hushed hamlet]

[opaque orbit]

aphrodite attack boon is honestly one of my preferred attack boons

[barren ocean]

^ its very nice

[opaque orbit]

just for the high damage bonus

[barren ocean]

oh yea

[hushed hamlet]

Attack is the cause weakness?

[barren ocean]

espc for post-endgame

Attack causes weakness yes

it also reduces enemy dmg when weakened

[opaque orbit]

typically I don't like ares attack boon

because doom doesn't normally stack, right?

[static wadi]

@barren ocean that what weakness do

@opaque orbit with proper boon it does

[opaque orbit]

so with something like sword or fists I don't get as much out of doom as I would out of anything else

[static wadi]

black metall iirc

[opaque orbit]

dire misfortune

I have the wiki open

[static wadi]

oh sry

black metal is for cast

[opaque orbit]

but even so, I'd still get more out of other gods' attack boons

but with shield, it's actually not bad

[hushed hamlet]

Im on a roguelike rotation

Hades, Going Under, Dead cells

Then theres Spelunky 2

[barren ocean]

Ares does have a boon that lets you stack doom

[opaque orbit]

my shield routine is shield bash -> buffered reverse dash attack -> hold that attack into charging another shield bash

unfortunately shield bash doesn't count as an "attack" for doom purposes

[barren ocean]

buffered reverse dash atk??

[opaque orbit]

I use mouse and keyboard

[hushed hamlet]

Ah

I use controller

[barren ocean]

what does that mean tho lmao

[vestal dagger]

pretty much bull rushing and then immediately dash attacking

[opaque orbit]

I press space to dash during my bash, and point my attack in the opposite direction as I pass behind my opponent