[tenderly touches screen] Apollo... Where are you...
#h1-discussion
still elk
lunar cypress
Oh my god the ||Zeus aspect special + athena boon for it|| has the WORST noise, and it keeps going
high oracle
i have a small question
if you keep a specific god's keepsake through tartarus, does it still guarantees the first boon to be of that god, or is it once/run like the coin pouch ?
lunar cypress
Only the once per run, but-yeah that
high oracle
okay thanks
unique fable
getting the bond for the associated keepsake doesn't alter the keepsake, right?
marble prism
Nope
median crystal
Speaking of keepsakes, is there an info graph that says the name of the character over each available spot for keepsakes? I'm having a hard time telling what I'm missing
unique fable
@median crystal https://hades.gamepedia.com/Keepsakes lists them in order
median crystal
Nice thanks
sick mortar
new patch?
carmine ravine
there will be constant small hotfixes
minor harbor
Finally Got to the end of hades Real good very happy
carmine ravine
which one
carmine solstice
is there any plan to have any sort of merch or digital things about zagreus' one shade fan
median crystal
Is it advisable to trade ambrosia for blood? Having a hard time upgrading weaps
carmine ravine
theres merch on their website iirc
unique fable
that shade is just a bandwagon fan tbh
carmine ravine
u get those things a lot once u farm heat and fish a lot
carmine solstice
I don't know their gender.
unique fable
i respect all the shades who stuck with their home team
they're still rooting for T&A after they've lost like 20 in a row
that's beautiful
blazing narwhal
Is it advisable to trade ambrosia for blood? Having a hard time upgrading weaps
if you're farming blood and you don't plan on giving give ambrosia to anyone soon then sure
but you might get into a bit of a pinch later on the game where you can't gift your waifu
thorny thorn
So what's your least favourite enemy in the game and why is it the greatshield
carmine ravine
i hate the styx enemies more
small tusk
the god damn rats...
unique fable
mm, big chariot can feel tough depending on what you have
small tusk
the poison is cruel xD
unique fable
might be the most build-dependent enemy?
infinitely easier if you have mobility or a push or something
brisk trail
The cruelest thing to me is Theseus and Asterius's stupid HP pool
thorny thorn
||fists|| without any athena boons vs chariots can feel like a fast trip to Tartarus for sure
small tusk
I find big chariots easy with fists or the sword... just stun-lock them
blazing narwhal
satyrs
whenever they spit on me the game decides to lagspike me
ensuring I can never deflect them
thorny thorn
what kinda dell from the 90's are you running hades on :D
blazing narwhal
[insert potato here]
small tusk
Hades is the smoothest game ever and I run it at 5120x2880 165Hz xD
blazing narwhal
shouldn't have problem running hades at 1280 720 with my specs
yet it still happens
small tusk
what are the specs?
high oracle
what are fun builds to go for ?
I already tried demeter/aphrodite laser (didnt like)
I already tried ares/athena (fun, but the duo never spawns for me, only saw it once)
I heard that full artemis is good ?
high oracle
hm yea but thats just damage
Oh forgot to mention, Full poseidon was a lot of fun too
small tusk
I likes my big numbers xD
ran a 30% crit sword, artemis crit-mark for even more crit, weak on atk... the rest was a joke to run with with every addition 😄
thorny thorn
||beowulf shield|| + zeus and artemis I think it is (lightning rod) is the cheesiest thing in the universe, you ||load up your shield, yeet yourself into a corner, then block at a minor distance from the dropped rods while blocking, proceed to beat Hades at any heat difficulty||
small tusk
duly noted, will have to try
thorny thorn
oh I suppose not counting the time measure because it can take a while lol
thorny thorn
aye :D
they return after a while so you have to do it over again, but it's not too hard
high oracle
ye
thorny thorn
you can kinda do the same with zeus shield but it's way harder
high oracle
i heard that the ||secret bow|| has the same mechanic for the casts and can be very op, but did not find the right combo to make it yet, know what it is ?
||also what do i need to do to get the secret gun ? i have more than 5 bloods invested in it, its the only secret weapon i don't have yet, is it something special and hidden or am i just unlucky ?||
vital wind
Fought the ||secret boss|| for the first time just now. Did not go well.
thorny thorn
||hope you enjoyed the sick music tho :D||
high oracle
Fought the ||secret boss|| for the first time just now. Did not go well.
@vital wind ||charon ||?
vital wind
yeah
high oracle
its quite nice yea
but the hitboxes are so big if i dont have the athena dash i dont even attempt it
small tusk
Staying behind helps a lot even without athena
Cuz he always attacks forward
You stay behind the back - you're safe
high oracle
the swarms i mean
small tusk
Ah, yeah those can be annoying
The pillars help a lot, but obviously that doesn't last
brisk trail
||Charon||'s attacks are so heavily telegraphed that it's hard to get hit when playing against him
high oracle
fought him 6 times, 3 times he broke them, 3 times he didnt
carmine ravine
||also what do i need to do to get the secret gun ? i have more than 5 bloods invested in it, its the only secret weapon i don't have yet, is it something special and hidden or am i just unlucky ?||
@high oracle show it to zeus
high oracle
so im unlucky then
tawdry flower
It took me 12 runs for Zeus to give me the dialogue I needed
tawdry flower
RNG was against me that day
mighty coyote
i just did a demeter laser run wtih triple beam and arctic blast, that was fun :3
void mural
uneven scaffold
can anyone tell me what the contractor desk does?
marble prism
buy cosmetics and other stuff
thorny arrow
other stuff being things that will help you on further runs (like increased gold from pots, allowing fountains to spawn, etc) and other spoilery stuff
you can go here for a list but there are spoilers: https://hades.gamepedia.com/House_Contractor
uneven scaffold
I mean the desk upgrade
thorny arrow
desk upgrade?
marble prism
more options
snow sparrow
Hi guyz 🙂
tribal glade
howdy
high oracle
I dont know if theres a suggestion channel or smth, but id like to point out that you can't check your current hp during dialogue with some npcs (such as Patroclus) and that is kind of a bother (even with the "b" menu opened) http://puu.sh/GzUKU/5ac339a283.jpg
snow sparrow
I have a question about game data
tribal glade
if you highlight the health option, it should show your current/max hp
it certainly does on switch, not sure about PC (i assume so?)
high oracle
yea ik but that part makes the interface look wonky
snow sparrow
Could I transfer my steam game data to switch?
high oracle
i heard you can
unique sparrow
Hi! What do you guys think about Chaos Affluence not synergizing with Side Hustle?
high oracle
chaos influence specifies end of chamber rewards iirc
marble prism
probably balanced
snow sparrow
thx!
carmine ravine
they not taking feedback anymore iirc @high oracle
unique sparrow
i guess is balanced, you guys are right, Affluece says "any Gold you find" so it can be understood a bit different from "any Gold chamber rewards".
unique sparrow
yeah, it weird, because it does seem to be working on troves and pots (im getting 29 instead of 15 with a +95% affluence).
so that's why i found it weird not to synergize with SH, bc of the description and the other interactions.
tough silo
Hades good
brisk trail
Hades really good
unique sparrow
ah, for sure, one of the best games released this year.
calm vapor
ok how do you unlock the arthur aspect....I have invested at least 5 titan bloods into all the weapons...unlocked the spear aspect....do I just need to keep running and hope that Nyx contacts me eventually?
brisk trail
Jim Sterling absolutely smothered this game with praise, it was almost weird seeing him not constantly complain for once
sweet basin
Can we get a Tisiphone PogChamp emote??
crimson breach
flat vapor
tisipogne
blazing narwhal
ohjhhh
sweet basin
Her mouth always open yeah?
cloud apex
Obviously alecto is the most likely one of erinyes to do a poggers
blazing narwhal
tisipogne
The level of genius in this server
fair dove
ok how do you unlock the arthur aspect....I have invested at least 5 titan bloods into all the weapons...unlocked the spear aspect....do I just need to keep running and hope that Nyx contacts me eventually?
@calm vapor #h1-story-discussion check pinned
You need at least ||5 blood into sword aspects||
And then wait for a conversation with nyx
calm vapor
ahhh....I thought it meant spread out between weapons thought I had to of been missing something
vague zinc
Is the f10 feature still active for reporting bugs?
high oracle
whats the name of EM4 music ?
cant seem to find it on the soundtrack but i might have skipped over it
blazing narwhal
||The Unseen Ones||
sweet heart
supergiant wont reply to this 👀
tepid plover
I heard there was 2 new keepsakes but I only have 1 locked?
quiet gull
It's a story spoiler, you can get it ||after seeing the credits||
tepid plover
but shouldnt there be 2 locked instead of 1?
quiet gull
No
median sluice
is it possible to get 3 hammer upgrades in an escape attempt?
median sluice
ooh k
brazen pewter
I can't be the only person to discuss this with a friend but, and I mean I don't think this would ever happen but, Zagreus would fit into smash so nicely.
tough silo
Puttem in
That's the trailer, he exits the underworld and sees mario
Then stabs him lmao
brazen pewter
I want to see ||Theseus|| talk about every fighter
tough silo
I don't want to see theseus, the world has progressed past the need for theseus
Excuse me
Th*seus
brazen pewter
But it would be so funny
frozen spire
gibby and lernie should meet up and have a reconstitution party
carmine ravine
Dmeter legand boon on bosses got sick animations
granite wadi
Smash reveal trailer has like 200 Pikmin running around in the underworld, helping Dusa move stuff around to prepare
Based on the average players Pikmin experience, there should be a lot of pikmin down there
Kirby and Hypnos spend the whole trailer sleeping
dusk mantle
Is || pom blossom || keepsake worth ranking up??
dusk mantle
hm okay
frozen spire
when you boot up the game for the first time every single keepsake is automatically fully ranked, anyways
according to the achievement
tribal glade
what achievement? most of my keepsakes still need levelling/ranking up
north pier
ok i'm almost certainly in the vast minority here but ||the lava shades in asphodel give me flashbacks to the room 237 scene in the shining||
they're just ||SO SAGGY||
dusk mantle
Is there any use in || forging bonds || when they don't give a || companion|| in return?
shell ice
plot progression
granite wadi
||Apparently Hades lets you use any companion on the final boss, which I learned today||
dusk mantle
okay, will not do that for now. I need to rank up my weapon aspects and need the materials for that.
granite wadi
||The convo doesn't happen at the same time though, so I thought he brought it up randomly||
shell ice
||Some convos are gated behind forging bonds, and sometimes those convos unlock fated prophecies or whatever, but yeah; certainly low-priority relative to companion bonds.||
dusk mantle
Hm, I just realized || ambrosia || is harder to farm than || Titan blood || .. Damn.
calm vapor
wow...didn't even know about the companion system...this game is going to take hundreds of hours lol
brisk trail
Okay so is it just me
or after today's patch is the bow faster?
The hidden aspect?
That's the only one I used today and yeah
It's faster
alpine sun
Do yalls ever let yourself die in tartarus right away just to progress story lol
carmine ravine
i do
surreal mica
hello, some more notice a great change from the frist to the second level, I went from one shot everything to being 4-5 minutes per room
north pier
I can't get over the fact how the ||talos aspect is literally sucking the souls out of the rats with the magnet special||
by far the best weapon
robust jasper
Wait “today’s patch” there is a new patch out?
robust jasper
Where are the patch notes??
brisk trail
There weren't any
night arch
Buffed how?
brisk trail
Faster charge again
frozen spire
how'd you know Coronacht got buffed without patchnotes?
night arch
Oh cool
brisk trail
||Finally managed to beat Charon for first time, took 2 defiances but mkay, need 1 more to complete Hermes' challenge. Dashing through the cloud thingy at right time was the key all along.||
raven meteor
||I feel like charon is easy but deals a TON Of damage||
||It's also hard to even practise his fight...||
brisk trail
||He does. And thanks to whoever here yesterday that suggested standing behind Charon most of the time, saved a lot from his huge swipes||
raven meteor
||his swipes deal, what, like 50 damage?||
cloud apex
||just take your chances anytime. otherwise you can't practice it up||
unkempt sleet
I once exited that fight and lost a DD in the room and went "right, he hit me twice, that was most of my health"
brisk trail
||By the way, if I crank up my heat to 16, and then gradually lower them, the lower heat will still provide rewards and not just Darkness, right? Because all this time, I've only gradually moved each weapons up from 1 to 6-8 so far, never jumped.||
||I was just thinking of speeding things up to unlock 2nd Skelly's prize achievement on Steam.||
crude sorrel
I tried the dodge keepsake but it didnt work in styx 😦 @carmine ravine
paper coral
Yes that works Wong
high island
Lambent Plume can only trigger in the final chamber of each tunnel.
paper coral
Same with Butterfly
crude sorrel
and what counts as "quickly"?
paper coral
30 secs
hard pawn
it’s different for each encounter; you’ll see a timer beneath the Keepsake on the left side of the screen
brisk trail
@paper coral thanks
native orbit
Finished 100% the steam acheivements!
brisk trail
Congrats!
cyan aspen
@brisk trail i ran into him when I had shield and I had auto charge call as one of the boons so I just cheesed it by hiding in a corner and doing call every once in a while
Otherwise he hits HARD
brisk trail
||I'm sorry, which auto-charge?||
raven meteor
You can encounter him super early in a run, too, so he can just twoshot you and you're screwed
Can't get practise in if you're dead within 20 seconds
cyan aspen
One of the boons has the Call charge automatically
raven meteor
||And i rarely find myself visiting shops besides at the end of each area, which can't have the bag||
cyan aspen
Like % per second
raven meteor
1%/sec iirc
paper coral
Hermes
raven meteor
I think it's hermes
hard pawn
Imagine visiting shops
paper coral
Or Zeus and Aphrodite's duo boon
hard pawn
Gotta save for that styx shop blood
cyan aspen
man I realized I need a TON more ambrosia to max everyone. Is it 3 per Olympian god?
hard pawn
Yeah but I’d rather make sure I get it then use styx money to buy boons from the styx shop since they’re better sometimes
brisk trail
@cyan aspen Ohhh, that boon. yeah I remember now.
hard pawn
It’s 3 for everyone afaik
storm pike
It's 1 per olympyan god, hermes is 2 though
hard pawn
Oh
raven meteor
It only costs 1000-1200 for diamon/blood, iirc
hard pawn
Yeah
brisk trail
||Btw I did beat him on Tartarus though, cost 2 defiances, I think if I waited until Elysium, it'd be tad easier||
raven meteor
That's still a lot of gold you could spend earlier
hard pawn
Not really
cyan aspen
if you start with the 150 gold keepsake and then have the 15% gain and just hoard, you can end up with tons by time you get to Styx
I got side hustle once and a lot of coin rooms and entered Styx with 2k gold
hard pawn
I’m usually only hitting about 1300 when I get to styx unless I get Side Hustle or chaos money
raven meteor
My usual runs end up with me getting just under 3000 across the whole run
The golden pots give a LOT of money in styx
I think i've gotten 60 gold in a chamber just from the pots in styx. 60 gold from a chamber that just had 2 giant rats
Not to mention the gold from the actual rats
Also, is it just me or is the charon's obol chamber reward extremely not worth it except in styx?
hard pawn
It’s worth it with Chaos boosts or the Poseidon thing that buffs it
paper coral
The 100 gold?
hard pawn
The fact that gold is a laurel room really hurts it
Cause it’s gonna be competing with other laurel rooms which are almost always more valuable
raven meteor
Yeah, the 100 gold. And if you already have boons buffing gold gain, then you don't need to spend chambers specifically for getting more, you can already afford most of the things you need, unless you're buying a ton of things from the well
dusk mantle
if you start with the 150 gold keepsake and then have the 15% gain and just hoard, you can end up with tons by time you get to Styx
@cyan aspen What is the 15% gain ?
Is that a boon?
hard pawn
You go to gold rooms with gold buffs so you can go to every shop and just stack stuff up
raven meteor
Mirror
cyan aspen
No it’s a mirror ability
dusk mantle
Oh
hard pawn
15% money at end of floor
dusk mantle
I will check that, thanks. I need to farm titan blood badly. invested in bad aspects early.
mild thistle
I prefer the 15% extra gold after every region over the extra starting gold, personally. Both for hoarding gold and just...general runs, imo.
Up to you tho at the end of the day, it's up to one's preference.
raven meteor
Going to a shop when you're not already filthy rich or at the end of an area always seems like a waste of a chamber....
cyan aspen
Same
hard pawn
The starting gold is really underwhelming
especially when you can just take the purse and get both 150 gold and the bonus 15%
dusk mantle
btw the trader gave an amazing offer (10 nectar for 1 ambrosia) but i didn't have enough nectar, damn.
raven meteor
Grabbing a keepsake for an area just for 150 extra gold seems like a waste...
You can trade gemstones for keys, and keys for nectar
raven meteor
10 gemstones per key, 5 keys per nectar
Also, personally, i have a ton of ambrosia but nowhere near enough nectar...
dusk mantle
i usually do that to get titan blood between failed runs if i have gemstones etc.
raven meteor
Iirc, i have 13 ambrosia just sitting in my pockets and noone to give it to because i need more nectar and/or story
cyan aspen
If you’re struggling try the Chiron bow. Probably got me the farthest in my early runs cuz easier to play keep away
mild thistle
It's probably best at the start of the run (the coinpurse) to ensure you can (hopefully) get something good from charon early on or just start up the gold hoarding, but then it's also competing between starting off with a specific god-keepsake, or for me ||pom blossom||.
cyan aspen
I maxed out the rewards for bow (up to 20 heat) so now gotta try other weapons
dusk mantle
keep away works up until the final area. then its down hill real fast for me.
i tend to do much better with sword, fist and shield so far.
raven meteor
Personally, i prefer the raw damage from the keepsake that gives you damage if you don't get hit
Spear seems like the best of all worlds, tbh
unkempt sleet
If you can use butterfly effectively you are a god
mild thistle
Ah, yeah. You can do some wacky stuff with Butterfly and Plume.
Never really pushed for a full one with either myself, though. Might try that someday.
raven meteor
Good range, fast damage, and a ranged option. Hammers can allow you to turn your special into a great source of fast dps or your dash strike into a limiting but insane amount of burst damage
I find most chambers rather easy and only worry about getting hit in bosses or the 3rd area, at which point the butterfly's extra damage helps a lot in saving lots of health
cyan aspen
Maybe I need to try spear more. Which aspect are you usingz Only one I can clear with high heat is bow so far
raven meteor
I use the hades spear personally, but other spears could be better
mild thistle
My personal pref. is Achilles spear, though that's mostly for a cast build. For the spear itself, Hades Spear is good.
unkempt sleet
The most popular spear is Zag I think
raven meteor
I just love getting a ton of damage and killing bosses before i can start making crucial mistakes
cyan aspen
I was in another game server that tracked data of its users in terms of weapon usage. Do we have something like that here or any past polls?
unkempt sleet
Hades spear is very good and my personal favorite but you need to master spin dashing
raven meteor
I've had runs with enough dps i could kill bosses without getting hit and it was the most fun runs i've had
Spin dashing is awesome, but there isn't anything to master besides learning the range
And that where your cursor is actually matters, i guess
unkempt sleet
It's more about actually using it instead of ever standing still for the spin
I have seen a lot of people nit knowing spin dashing was a thing
raven meteor
True, i suppose
There are tons of situations where you'd rather stand still, tho
Mostly when attacking through cover
||the spin is basically free damage againt hades' lasers||
unkempt sleet
||But you can just stand in the center and take no damage assuming no EM4||
raven meteor
||I haven't tried that yet, but i'm worried that it'll shove me off a step, like when it does when you attack while hugging a wall/pillar||
unkempt sleet
||It doesn't unless you actually also hit a solid object while doing it. ||
hearty sorrel
Speaking of Hades, does he have black beard or white? In most pictures they are black, in some they are white.
unkempt sleet
It's definitely black. Must be some reflections that make it look white
unkempt sleet
Yeah that's definitely the reflection. His beard and hair are black. He uses it in a scene to distinguish himself from Zeus.
cyan aspen
Is there a consensus best weapon? I know previously they had to nerf chaos shield
unkempt sleet
Not really? Shield is considered the best for new players, but other weapons is personal preference
Speedruns usually use fists, byt that's about it. But it doesn't really matter since speeruns use Merciful End
cyan aspen
Which one is that again?
unkempt sleet
Athena/Ares Duo
hard pawn
Deflect triggers Doom early
unkempt sleet
Well anything that can deflect triggers doom
hard pawn
Yeah
unkempt sleet
In the speerun case they use divine dash
raven meteor
Why merciful end?
unkempt sleet
Because you can use Ares attack and just dash attack spam to destroy everything
raven meteor
Does dash attack use the dash's boon?
cyan aspen
I forgot what boons I had but I did a run where I was mostly just spamming dash attack too
raven meteor
Spear with the hammer to make dash attack hit thrice is OP
cyan aspen
Got the Hermes boon that gave me 3 extra dashes
raven meteor
Absolutely melts everything
marsh field
I struggle a bit with dash attack myself. I often find that I end up behind my target, so I have to turn around, thus losing the dash-attack
unkempt sleet
Yes boons that affect attack also apply to dash attack
raven meteor
Not what i asked
unkempt sleet
No dash attack doesn't care about your dash boon
Unless it's athena dash because you retain some invincibility even if you dash attack
You can turn around while dash attacking, I do it all the time with fists
nimble shuttle
Yo guys, quick question: Is there anything you can do against the poison effect on you?
Like..do you have to stand still or sth? Or just take the damage?
sharp fossil
there're fountain things you can drink from to remove it
nimble shuttle
Ohh...those things that look like a tree taking a bath?
wind wedge
Yeah, those
nimble shuttle
Geez i was wondering why they were everywhere
wind wedge
They have a little "Cure" modal by them when you're close enough to interact
nimble shuttle
Welp thanks guys. The poison kills my run everytime.
wind wedge
I mean, poison still tends to kill my runs even knowing that, but hope it helps 😉
nimble shuttle
Definitely will when i'm boxed in with a bunch of rats next time x)
pliant dust
I have been killed by the poison on tens of runs - even the cure tree is sometimes not enough with satyrs arrowing you with poison again & again. seems a lazy design to prevent players from proceeding
carmine ravine
I tried the dodge keepsake but it didnt work in styx 😦 @carmine ravine
@crude sorrel i know that y u pong me
raven meteor
I hate poison because the option yo drink from the fountain doesn't pop up if you're doing other stuff, even if you're in range
Can't spam dash attacks while trying to take a swig of gamer tree bath water 😔
mild thistle
I'll admit, despite the huge amount of windup and very noticeable soundcue, I still get hit by the satyr darts all the time ;;.
nimble shuttle
Imo poison isn't beneficial, since you get punished a ton for making one wrong move and it actually makes you feel like you are still getting hit while you're dodging just fine in the moment.
raven meteor
Poison is a very significant threat
It forces you to drop what you're doing and go for the fountain
brisk trail
Can deal with the satyrs just fine with any shields, or ||Aspect of Lucifer||, but other than those, it's nightmare to deal with.
carmine ravine
eh i just hate that aspect
raven meteor
Deflect works on them, but the projectile is very fast
wind wedge
Wait, is there a thing I don't know about how ||Aspect of Lucifer|| works? I've not unlocked it yet
nimble shuttle
Well i'll just consider myself lucky to have made my first successful attempt at attempt 15 and can now power up my stuff before going there ever again x)
carmine ravine
the things dont explode, u need to dmg it or wait a while
mild thistle
Presumably it's due to the ||hellfire bombs aoe|| stopping the satyr's spit windup. If they cant spit, they cant send out the poison.
brisk trail
||I went for the damage ramp up hammer upgrade, I think it's a must for Lucifer. And also attack boons like Ares or Zeus help a ton.||
carmine ravine
i used the ramp up hammer with ares stacking boon
mild thistle
there's also the classic 'nuke them before they get to spit' approach.
brisk trail
I barely use it's special, unless when I get the ||triple bomb upgrade||
mild thistle
my tried and true tactic
raven meteor
I wish the main attack of the rail staggered enemies like most other sources of damage, but i understand why that'd be op
carmine ravine
overall the hidden rail is far underpowered compared to eris
brisk trail
||Dionysus cast to slow down enemies on track|| + ||Lucifer with Zeus attack boon and extra chain lightning|| = 👌
@carmine ravine Eris good? I never used it. Just standard, ||Hestia|| & ||Lucifer||
raven meteor
I personally prefer to build rail runs around the special. Got the hammer for 500% damage and a boon to buff the raw damage, and anything that doesn't have a shield gets oneshot
carmine ravine
eris gives 60% all dmg buff if u go into ir special blast@brisk trail
mild thistle
My only issue with ||Lucifer|| rail are those odd moments where you ||want to target a bomb, but an enemy gets too close to it and the auto-aim prioritizes the enemy/just straight up shields it.||
raven meteor
Er, armour
unkempt sleet
It was worse when the autoaim prioritized differently
mild thistle
It's 75% damage now, actually
carmine ravine
depends on rank
mild thistle
so even better~
unkempt sleet
If you had a special anywhere you couldn't target enemies
wind wedge
Yeah, that's the maxed out bonus
mild thistle
Oh, yeah, but I figure if we're talking about how good an aspect is we'd be talking about it at max rank
Ofc there's a few exceptions where ranking an aspect up doesn't massively change the weapon, like imo Hera bow, but
carmine ravine
still, eris with hazard bomb, spread bomb and triple bpmb is just easy mode
mild thistle
Speaking of though, i've heard conflicting reports on how Eris aspect interacts with Hazard Bomb
Does hazard bomb still damage you, or?
might've been changed at some point and that's the reason why, ig
carmine ravine
still dmg, but dmg isnt dat much so dont worry
brisk trail
On 80+ runs, and dozens of times using Rail, I never encountered Hazard Bomb upgrade
mild thistle
ah
blazing narwhal
Does hazard bomb still damage you, or?
it does, eris and hazard bomb is sorta like a meme run apparently
carmine ravine
it doesnt hurt as bad as a chaos curse so its fine
raven meteor
It doesn't hurt that bad, and i mean, if you're gonna hit yourself anyway, might as well get some extra dps from it
tepid plover
Wait, so you cant recast dash nova anymore?
peak copper
Will someone help me and tell me how to do a quest for Poseidon, which is to catch 25 fish?
I think I caught 25 fish. I did not give them back to the cook. I met Poseidon and yet, the quest does not want to end.
Will someone tell me step by step what I should do?
inland leaf
You also need to catch one legendary fish
peak copper
I caught one after the fight with the last boss - is this a legendary fish?
blazing kettle
why is walking on magma hurting me if my feet are on fire
inland leaf
check in your codex what fishes you have discovered,
legendary ones are every third one
brisk trail
Btw I've given nectars to all characters, what other uses for it beside trading?
inland leaf
I think only trading, if you maxed out every character
peak copper
@inland leaf ok, thanks. Should I give all caught fish back to the cook or do I have to keep them in my pocket?
brisk trail
@inland leaf Okay
inland leaf
@peak copper I waited untill i got one legendary fish, and then i started to collect 25 other fishes
I'm not sure if you have to have them with you, or if only catching them counts
frozen ice
screw ||tiny vermin||
crude sorrel
how you get different versions of weapons?
crude sorrel
when will he tell you about it? I won the game 4x
frozen ice
you definitely already have it then
just hit E to select the weapon then E again to change it
crude sorrel
hmm ok ill try it when im run is done 😄 thx
frozen ice
yep just hit E twice on same weapon. you may need to wait 1 second inbetween hitting the button
frozen ice
is it possible to view the sum damage increases from all my boons
tawdry flower
@crude sorrel it also doesn’t happen until you’ve unlocked all 6 weapons, UF for some reason you haven’t done that yet
frozen ice
what is the point of heras bow
weary yacht
does gifting bouldy do anything?
upper crown
minor buff, do it if youre fine with pitching nectar for a laugh
weary yacht
so it basically does nothing
jade crescent
I think of it as a nectar dump once you get everyone else maxed
also @frozen ice you can get huge damage if you combine it with something like dio cast, each festive smoke deals like 300 damage, so one full casted shot will net you over 1k damage
frozen ice
how? doesnt it just add it to one arrow? isnt it the same as just using the cast by itself and then shooting?
err i dont see the synergy
@jade crescent
upper crown
it lowers the delay and lets you apply your attack on top of the cast
frozen ice
that only works if you arent using the regenerating cast right?
jade crescent
you just spam the cast to get it in an arrow, do the nuclear hit, then you can focus on dodging or dealing damage or whatever
yup, you should have the 3 cast thing
frozen ice
ah okay
jade crescent
pretty much always in general
carmine ravine
i still prefer hidden bow than hera due to the shared suffering itseld is extra dmg
weary yacht
i just dont like the bow
upper crown
im still a fan of chiron
jade crescent
I liked hidden aspect but it's useless against bosses
brisk trail
When I inquired here earlier about ||jumping from Heat 8 to Heat 16 to get 2nd Skelly statue, I did it~! Posted on #h1-victory-boasting . It was an adequate challenge, losing only 2 defiances||
But ||I've beat Charon's twice in a row, yet Hermes' prophecy still locked, do I have to speak directly with Hermes once it's done on the same run? Because I didn't met him (/his boon) again on Elysium til finish after that||
carmine ravine
wdym, hidden basic atk is enhanced iirc
beat him again, i need to beat him three times for some reason@brisk trail
upper crown
yeah same
jade crescent
you get much slower draw time for more damage, pretty much worse if you want to time the perfect charge- and you do
carmine ravine
zagreus will comment on it if u did it after the fight
upper crown
might be a bug???
brisk trail
Ah okay. Third time it is. Thanks, @carmine ravine
frozen ice
if i use have that hammer that has 3 arrows for attack, does it apply 3 casts on heras bow
carmine ravine
it somehow faster now after patch tofay@jade crescent
weary yacht
||oh yhe i was wondering, is there something u need to do to trigger the fight with charon?||
upper crown
mid area shops
carmine ravine
from my observation, just enter the ahop with almost no money
flat vapor
you need to have beaten the final boss once as well
upper crown
its not a money level thing i dont think
carmine ravine
no u can enter on tartarus iirc
carmine ravine
i legit cant find any fight options since i keep keeping them for styx, the thing only appear when im like under 50 gold so i can actually borrow it
frozen ice
i always thought orpheus was a male
carmine ravine
he is
jade crescent
same with hypno until than called him brother
signal plaza
they will add new content to the game in the future or its over?
frozen ice
same
tawdry flower
Orpheus is kinda androgynous
strong furnace
Pretty sure it's done
frozen ice
@tawdry flower i dont really see the masculine part in that androgyny
tawdry flower
The only thing confirmed is crossplay saves and patches
strong furnace
They've said repeatedly that they're just doing patches and the cross-saves now
jade crescent
oh 😦
tawdry flower
@frozen ice androgyny doesn’t need to be both male and female. It can be just indeterminate
frozen ice
TIL
jade crescent
someone in this server said they planned to add sort of DLCs for new content
not anyone trustworthy but still
signal plaza
and i think they still should introduce a special aspect for the bow and the other weapon
jade crescent
wdym
there's 4th secret aspects for all weapons
YO just got a level 5 heroic trippy shot with hera bow, time for big boy damage
weary yacht
also, how do u get legandary boons?
flat vapor
you have to get the prerequisite boons first
jade crescent
they each have some prerequisites for that one, then a bunch of luck
you can find them on the wiki page for the god
flat vapor
for example, splitting bolt needs the boon storm lightning. storm lightning itself needs either lightning strike or electric shot.
weary yacht
thanks
frozen ice
hydra has to be the easiest thing in this game
frozen ice
em2?
jade crescent
extreme measures, it's a pact thing
frozen ice
ah
weary yacht
not really, just the magma is annoying
hard pawn
you shouldn't even be near the magma if you're not on EM2
jade crescent
sure, I've gotten used to it by now, but it really destroys your health if you aren't careful
weary yacht
yhe, sucks for me who just dashes a lot
frozen ice
that witch chamber drives me nuts
weary yacht
divine dash is just op
carmine ravine
also, how do u get legandary boons?
@weary yacht the legend boons and its prerequisites is all in the codex, check it anytime after any encounters so u can plan them
quartz knoll
Can we sync save file on PC and Switch yet
maiden matrix
anyone have any screenshots of various zones (like asphodel) without the GUI showing?
jade crescent
geez I need a ton of nectar, didn't realize you needed to max a ton of ||gods to get the epilogue||
frozen ice
bow special fun to use on bone hydras face
tiny plinth
so how many times do i need 2 play this mf lyre before it works
thorny thorn
nooooooo ||just died to hades in his final, secret stage on 32 heat cause of stupid decisions, nnnnnnnoooooooooooooooo||
sharp fossil
the lyre works fine, you just need more practice
tiny plinth
ok maybe works is the wrong word
sharp fossil
lol
frozen ice
does weak work on bosses
sharp fossil
yeah idk the exact number but it’s a lot
tiny plinth
ive been strumming it like two or three times every run for like eighty runs
sharp fossil
you’re probably pretty close then
tiny plinth
ok neat :)
sharp fossil
@frozen ice yeah weak works fine on bosses
frozen ice
ty
torpid sail
Hi everyone. New here. Done about 40 runs. Got to the final boss twice. (Spear and sword) any big tips? Im digging any ares/artemis build.
frozen ice
@torpid sail shield is good against final boss
torpid sail
The shield weapon?
frozen ice
yeah
torpid sail
I will have to try it more. I tend to die in stage 3 without sword/spear
torpid sail
Okay. I will try it.
frozen ice
those skulls will get you from behind if youre not careeful though
torpid sail
The stage 3 boss(es) dont have skulls. I dont make it past them often
torpid sail
Ah. Gotcha. One mountain at a tine
frozen ice
biggest thing is to pay attention to the target on you
torpid sail
*time
frozen ice
jump right as it zones in
hard pawn
focus asterius and hide behind the pillars
torpid sail
Oh i def hide behind pillars for that. Learned that early
frozen ice
i kill the ||minotaur|| first
torpid sail
Blanky, when in doubt, fists come out.
lofty dragon
yes! fists are the best
torpid sail
I usually end up missing sword or spear pretty quick
torpid sail
I got a hammer upgrade for increased range once. That was fun
frozen ice
the fist special practically pauses the game for you lmao
carmine ravine
if u feel risky using fist just use magnetic one
torpid sail
Oh. Do you have to beat the game before you can reroll doors?
zinc nacelle
wha
carmine ravine
no its a mirror talent
torpid sail
Ooooooh. K
zinc nacelle
will i be able to get more titan blood after finishing once?
frozen ice
yesd
frozen ice
i only won first time yesterday
zinc nacelle
how much playtime
torpid sail
I may just devote a week to each weapon until i win with each. Not looking forward to bow or gun.
coral verge
Bow is crazy good, especially Chiron and Hera. Base bow, not so much
torpid sail
Yeah i only have base
hard pawn
base bow is fine
coral verge
Get Zeus on Guns and it's all gravy
torpid sail
I dig sword. That special with the right boons? Amazing.
frozen ice
+crit from base bow is nice
zinc nacelle
normal slashes seems so weak
lofty dragon
sword is nice but it has several newbtrap hammers imo
zinc nacelle
compared to other weapons
torpid sail
Neptune/zeus sword was crazy for me.
opaque nexus
oh zag sword is worst aspect in the game lol
lofty dragon
I like upgraded base form
hard pawn
zag sword is good
opaque nexus
yes but nemesis
frozen ice
the bonus from the aspect isnt my fave. i like the sword thop
hard pawn
i use it most of the time if i'm not using ||Arthur||
opaque nexus
nemesis sword is kind of a direct upgrade to zag sword, zag may be better if you're going for flurry slash
lofty dragon
I like zag sword for zeus, hangover builds
opaque nexus
or world splitter
lofty dragon
I use nem sword the least
hard pawn
yeah its kinda boring
opaque nexus
but for dash strike heavy playstyles nemesis is way better
zinc nacelle
are there boons that specifically buff the charged attacks? from like shield or spear?
lofty dragon
sure, I just don't like it, it's boring
opaque nexus
sword's hammers are kinda ehh but double edge is god tier
opaque nexus
double nova is okay
zinc nacelle
okay
hard pawn
only hammers i don't like are shield hammers really
opaque nexus
more damage to armor is always good
zinc nacelle
hammer is by far the most important boon huh
opaque nexus
well not always
hard pawn
not really
hard pawn
for Exagryph specifically its super important
lofty dragon
Exagryph has the most fun and build defining hammers
frozen ice
bow vs satyrs is not fun
zinc nacelle
okay
zinc nacelle
what base weapon is your favorite
frozen ice
bow
lofty dragon
sword or fists
hard pawn
sword 4 or base spear for me
zinc nacelle
okay
lofty dragon
never used upgraded base shield 
opaque nexus
by base weapon do you mean zagreus?
zinc nacelle
what would you say is the easiest base weapon to clear a run (not fastest)
lofty dragon
what does base spear even do? I don't rememebr
zinc nacelle
no without aspect
hard pawn
zag aspect spear yeah
opaque nexus
special damage and range
opaque nexus
it may be all 3
hard pawn
it is all 3
torpid sail
I got zag spear with extended range and spread attack(multi spears) on a zeus run last night. Press attack, nuke screen
versed saddle
I just turned Alecto into a sandwich.
torpid sail
Thats hot
carmine ravine
hmm getting sandwiched by the furies
torpid sail
I destroy tisiphone once with athena dashing around her when she throws her little bullet spell
*Destroyed
lofty dragon
yeah meg and tisi melt when you dash close to them with athena dash while they do their bullet hell
torpid sail
I was like "heres some super r type strats for you tis"
frozen ice
just got ||3 sisters|| didnt know that was possible
torpid sail
Yeah happens after winning i think
frozen ice
i think it was due to that one heat contract
versed saddle
||Extreme Measures! || I'm working my way up to facing ||Hades|| with that turned on.
carmine ravine
good luck! ||its just a cerberus summon and a third phase tho||
torpid sail
Em hydra looks awful.
carmine ravine
its the same wdym
torpid sail
Ive seen YT vids of the floor being islands of lava.
carmine ravine
and? just dash
lofty dragon
just don't get hit
torpid sail
Just doesnt look fun lol.
I mean if its as easy as "just dont get hit" then the game is ez mode
lofty dragon
it can be easier to hit more heads at the same time but it's much more likely to get hit
it gets pretty hectic
carmine ravine
literally the witches minibosses got 90% same room layout
torpid sail
Witches die to deflect though.
marble prism
TBH I don't find it much harder, but it is a lot more annoying
robust sundial
I'm at a point where my Zagreus is confortable calling her that, and it feels... heart-warming. 😏
nimble ermine
does normal attack and special attack of bow, with ares' doom, stack?
hushed frost
When you jump into a saved run from 3 days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFdDNOnGjWc
does normal attack and special attack of bow, with ares' doom, stack?
@nimble ermine Don't think so?
scarlet ice
not unless you have the boon that lets doom stack
nimble ermine
not unless you have the boon that lets doom stack
@scarlet ice is the the curse of longing duo boon?
scarlet ice
uhhh i don't remember
no curse of longing causes doom to continuously hit weak enemies
that sounds pretty good actually
wise sparrow
is there a way to transfer a save file from a mac to a pc
nimble ermine
aaah probably the dire misfortune
scarlet ice
yeah looks like it
scarlet ice
yeah we know now
quaint hatch
Wow I'm bad at reading sry
scarlet ice
@wise sparrow doesn't hades use cloud sync for save files?
wise sparrow
idk
scarlet ice
this may sound like a dumb question but have you tried just logging in and seeing if your save is there
if cloud sync works between mac and pc then your files should be there automatically
so long as you're logged into the same steam account
verbal sky
pretty sure it uses cloud saves
I redownloaded it so it would be on my SSD and all my saves were there
scarlet ice
yeah, my save was also copied to my brother's computer when he installed it through family game share
wise sparrow
ok nice thanks guys
verbal sky
anytime
scarlet ice
it didn't keep updating tho because he was using a different steam account
wise sparrow
just wanted to be sure :)
scarlet ice
yeah np
i wish the ||pact of punishment's conditions|| showed fated prophecy markers
so that i don't have to write down all of the ones i haven't done yet and compare that to the list of all of them
scarlet ice
hades is taking me away from school
and also other games
i thought getting the game end would let me be free of my shackles but alas
there is no escape
uneven sinew
What are some of your guys favorite ways/preferred ways to add heat?
scarlet ice
i think heat discussion is supposed to go in spoilers
quaint hatch
Only on new players as far as I know
quaint hatch
Spoilers mostly apply to post game stuff and the final boss
uneven sinew
yeah I wouldn't ruin story stuff but heat is pretty general
quaint hatch
I'm not sure of it's counted as a spoiler on discussion but it definitely is in #h1-for-new-players
scarlet ice
i'm just saying what i thought i knew based on looking at the channel history
i personally don't care where it goes, it could go here if it were up to me
flat vapor
likely this is it
right now their plans are "take a break", they'll decide what to do in the future afterwards
brisk trail
im loving the game right now but it gets kinda bored over time
quaint hatch
For me the ||pact|| expands the game immensely
Also I need to at least have all my weapons leveled up and builds tried out xD
scarlet ice
how far in are you, @brisk trail?
the game has tons of ways to make runs different every time but the worlds are something that never changes
brisk trail
ive killed the last boss like 8 times
eternal siren
I can't believe all the different paths of progression between runs. the depth is pretty outstanding for just launching
quaint hatch
The game has been out a long time in early access
strong furnace
It's been in early access for ages lol
quaint hatch
They really made the most out of it and used it to refine the heck out of it
robust pine
Those legendary fishes they really are legendary lol. Impossible to find
robust pine
Btw, i have a question
hardy escarp
Hey, I just started playing this game a few days ago and uh... Does anyone have any Theseus and Minotaur tips? I cannot beat them for the life of me.
robust pine
let's say that I'm using pierced butterfly, and in the middle on the run i change to another keepsake, will i loose the dmg i got from pierced butterfly?
quaint hatch
I think #h1-for-new-players is the right channel if you have questions regarding that
strong furnace
I usually spend the entire time running around in circles and avoid the spear
hardy escarp
okay
quaint hatch
@hardy escarp fight asterius first on the outer rim of the arena
The pink symbol above your head shows you when theseus throws his spear at you
You can simply dodge that
novel spindle
let's say that I'm using pierced butterfly, and in the middle on the run i change to another keepsake, will i loose the dmg i got from pierced butterfly?
@robust pine yeah you lose the dmg, same for plume dodge chance etc
quaint hatch
If you took down the minotaur theseus is easy
After he throws his spear he walks away from you and won't attack
That's your chance to do damage
hardy escarp
I always go for the mino first, but then Theseus destroys me with one of the gods' help
gaunt ridge
pillars are your friend
quaint hatch
The only other solo attack he has is a moving spear swipe but of you don't stay near him for too long he will telehraph it by walking towards you
Also pillars
You can attack asterius after he jumps
Also free backstab damage
gaunt ridge
about the AoE, its very telegraphed imo
quaint hatch
With the gods you just have to learn the patterns
Your dodge has I frames so you can even dodge shortly before they hit
Most gods powers leave little free spaces
novel spindle
You should try to kill the mino without bringing Theseus to half health
quaint hatch
Also yeah the fight is a wall for most at the beginning
It's just about learning, getting stronger from the mirror and proper builds
hardy escarp
I usually barely focus Theseus, I only attack him if I have a god call at the ready
once the mino is down then I go and start killing Theseus
quaint hatch
Yup
Only attack theseus if the bull is down
Also you can use the mini boss encounter with him to learn him solo
hardy escarp
Wait what is that
quaint hatch
This will help you getting used to him
hardy escarp
ohh the one with the mino
quaint hatch
Yes
If you get him solo without losing much life most of the fight is watching out for theseus
spark vale
ahhh!! i just got my first 32 heat clear! after my previous best was 20. heck yessss
gaunt ridge
grats
hardy escarp
I would ask what heat is but I have a feeling that is big big spoilers
quaint hatch
You'll find out in time
gaunt ridge
got bapped by Thesues while trying out a new weapon because I'm drunk and forgot about his spear range
x_x
quaint hatch
You have to drink the right amount dammit
spark vale
i have not boasted my clear screenshot, didn't wanna show anything that might more specifically spoil. but OOF
quaint hatch
Np
Give us a taste there
hardy escarp
speaking of which, which is the best weapon for new players? I've mostly been using either the bow or the spear
quaint hatch
Have you encountered aspects yet?
hardy escarp
yes
quaint hatch
Honestly it depends on your playstyle
I really love ||chaos shield|| or ||chiron bow||
But you need to level them up
torpid sail
@hardy escarp im sword/sheild but havent won yet
quaint hatch
Otherwise ||Hera Bow|| only requires you to unlock it and gives you access to a whole new word of playing with cast builds
hardy escarp
I kind of hate the shield
quaint hatch
Try it with Dionysus cast and the zeus/dio duo boon
If you're having fun with the bow I recommend either of the bow aspects
quaint hatch
You need to level that one up for it to be really good
Try it with Dionysus special
And aphrodite attack
spark vale
i think which weapons are good is largely a matter of taste, honestly. they all work well in some circumstances.
getting started though, poseiden sword and hera bow were straightforward
hardy escarp
I'm really loving the spear tbh
quaint hatch
Yup every weapon is more or less viable
spark vale
i liked spear at first and then i can't figure out how to use it anymore 😦
quaint hatch
Spear with the flurry hammer upgrade and zeus attack is decent
hardy escarp
Most of my best runs came from the spear. (IE the runs where Theseus was at like 100 HP)
spark vale
chiron bow is amazing though
if you get it fully upgraded
(and then get +4 special attacks, on the hammer)
quaint hatch
Spear you either build special, cast(achilles) or spin(4th spect)
hardy escarp
I also don't like the sword, but then again I haven't used it in forever
Not since like my first run
quaint hatch
In the end you gonna want to clear the game with each weapon for rewards
torpid sail
Im devoting a whole week to each weapon until i clear with it
hardy escarp
For now I'm focused on clearing the game at all... and I think I'll use the spear for that
quaint hatch
Then try flurry attack and zeus attack
quaint hatch
Spin is only good on certain aspects
torpid sail
I like extended range and spread attack on spear. Add zeus, nuke the world
hardy escarp
Daedalus hammer is like the best thing for a run right?
spark vale
i thought so at first
hardy escarp
Cuz it seems better than most boons
spark vale
its generally good
they tend to define your playstyle
cause they're so limited (2 upgrades a run)
quaint hatch
Boons are mostly the build defining thing
torpid sail
Is it really only 2? Ive never tracked that
spark vale
the issue is that hammers often add in negative effects to your moves
quaint hatch
And you're also bound to find or at least see 2 every run
spark vale
so they can also wreck a playstyle in a way that most boons don't
so you need to be more careful with them, imo.
quaint hatch
They don't add a negative side often
But some upgrades do
hardy escarp
I guess I haven't gotten into theorycrafting for this game too much. I've kind of been selecting boons that fit well with others but not insanely so
spark vale
i mean to be fair, i say that, but boons can do the same, definitely
especially casts.
uneven sinew
||the shotgun mod for exagryph almost wrecked my run||
hardy escarp
Okay so what is the point of casts, I feel like they do hardly any damage
uneven sinew
since I like ranged
quaint hatch
Shotgun mod is insane
spark vale
and they can do strong effects
uneven sinew
I took it just to do the prophecy stuff lol
buoyant plover
yeah i like the spear because of its range but having the cast with different effects and boons is useful
spark vale
like, take poseiden cast, then start the rooom by shooting 3 shots. if you have boosts for knockback boons (like the watery explosion) it's super strong.
quaint hatch
With zeus or aphrodite attack fe
Big damage
uneven sinew
if I see something with the little fate scroll icon, I take it
gaunt ridge
Cast can be modded with boons
torpid sail
I keep messing runs up taking prophecy stuff
spark vale
also cast gives you bonus damage when lodged
quaint hatch
Almost like the dates predicted it
gaunt ridge
do a lot of things, basically
spark vale
if you get the mirror upgrade
quaint hatch
I try to take prophecy stuff but I don't take them if they kill my run
spark vale
honestly though, i just like hera bow. Throw all my casts into one large shot.
buoyant plover
ooooh yeah
hard pawn
Nah
quaint hatch
If you don't plan on using casts as your main build stygian soul is better as it doesn't force you to pick up stones all the gime
hard pawn
Stygian > Infernal any day
quaint hatch
Time
uneven sinew
I might try that bow, I like chirons though
gaunt ridge
generally you want to stick enemies with cast 24/7
uneven sinew
cuz homing is rad
quaint hatch
Stygian is higher risk but also reward
It has insane damage potential for cast builds
But you need to highroll on chaos boons and hermes and artemis legendaries
hard pawn
Stygian allows you to use your cast more than like twice per bossfight without that one Hermes boon
or, six times I guess cause 3 charges on infernal
quaint hatch
If I do cast builds with f.e. poseidon or hera i want to have more casts stones
So infernal is safer
cunning root
ngl i wish there was something that made the cast stay in an enemy longer
like a keepsake
hard pawn
Poseidon and Hera want Infernal but otherwise Stygian is just better imo
cunning root
Well I don't really cast build much
quaint hatch
Well as I said I prefer infernal because it's safer
Stygian has more potential
But it's also riskier
Cast builds are awesome
You need the right weapon aspects
spark vale
i have gone fully back to infernal
wait i 100% disagree with you
stygian is much safer
quaint hatch
Infernal is trash if you're not busing cast imo
hard pawn
I’d say Infernal is riskier
spark vale
infernal is much more high reward
you dont need to collect the shots, but you get less of them
quaint hatch
Stygian is safer for non cast builds
But riskier in cast builds
hard pawn
gotta wait ten years for casts to drop if you don’t get the Hermes boon
quaint hatch
^
hard pawn
I’m talking for bosses
quaint hatch
This interupts your damage cycle
hard pawn
regular rooms it doesn’t matter which you have
spark vale
eh, i suppose. but part of your build has to be how to deal with bosses
so like, an alternate attack thats not awful
dire coyote
I need to start trying to form new builds, almost every time I start a run no matter what I end up going for ares beyblades lol
quaint hatch
Or if you play with poseidon
Then you use your special to dislodge
Beyblades go brrrr tho
dire coyote
Beyblades do big boy damage, it’s how I got my first few heat clears
gaunt ridge
I find artemis' cast weird
quaint hatch
If you get the right boons yeah
gaunt ridge
why do i need deflect beyblades lol
tawdry flower
There are some rooms where that’s real useful
quaint hatch
No it doesn't interact like that
tawdry flower
Like the miniboss room with 4 witches
dire coyote
I should use spear more but it just feels bad compared to gun and fists
quaint hatch
You probably mean athena cast?
Spear is my least favorite
I usually just do lazy cast build to clear with it
dire coyote
I’d like to try some kind of frost build since the sentries from ||Demeter|| are fun
quaint hatch
Spoiler tag her name pls
Try chiron with her flourish
Also look at the duo booms that interact with her sentries
Got some p fun ones
Although I never get a build together for them if I try
Seems to hate me
sweet basin
tawdry flower
I had ||5 crystal beams that caused chill + the exploding on 10 chill stacks the other day.|| it felt way too overpowered
quaint hatch
Don't tease me man xD
floral shore
Crystal Beam can be ridiculously brutal if supported with the proper boons. If not it's complete garbage.
sour sinew
this is very true, had a run where it screwed me over because i never got anything good to go with it
sour sinew
worked really well once ||i got the duo boon for better tracking though||
novel spindle
That duo helps a lot
Otherwise they are just too slow to be really useful. By the time they reach the target their times practically up
verbal sky
I had ||5 crystal beams that caused chill + the exploding on 10 chill stacks the other day.|| it felt way too overpowered
@tawdry flower That sounds awesome
brisk trail
What’s the most annoying Olympian to make mad
deep marten
Aphrodite