spoilers bro
#h1-discussion
static wadi
is it epilogue?
static wadi
no
heavy plaza
Nope
coral verge
did you see credits rolling?
heavy plaza
It's just the ||true ending||
But yeah hidden aspects take a few runs, you probably have a lot of convos with Achilles queued up that you need to go through
Just be patient and don't try to grind for it lol
It will come as soon as you forget that you're trying to get it
heavy plaza
It's so weird to me that people are completing the game in like 10-20 runs
brisk trail
20 hours
heavy plaza
I started on hell mode like a dumbass but honestly I'm kinda glad I did
brisk trail
only for seeing the epilouge
Lounge needs?
Trying to renovate the lounge but not sure what I'm missing
novel spindle
just received a boon from Demeter and she says "make sure to never love a mortal, yadayada, cause they will waste away" and im like... lady I'm the son of the god of the UNDERWORLD, if my mortal lover dies i just go to the underworld to stay with them, assuming they arent already dead.
brisk trail
heyo guys
can anyone direct me to some good ass wallpapers with hades?
i haven't been able to find any good ones with zagreus in 1920x1080 resolution
rotund sphinx
there's always the wide view of the different stages
not sure if its 1920 x 1080 tho
rotund sphinx
its before every stage
like at the courtyard and whatnot
there will be a glowing point
brisk trail
UwU
rotund sphinx
but other then that i dont know anymore
patent topaz
i made 4 if you want! @brisk trail one is spoiler tho
brisk trail
I can tell you where i've gotten to in the game then!
i got to the credits at least
so
final sleet
wow, the ||little vermin|| screwed me over...the funny part is I only went for the last elite chamber so I can get 1200 for the blood. But hey, I got the blood
patent topaz
tartarus, asphodel, elysium and the surface
brisk trail
ah, i see
final sleet
Haven't had enough HP for redacted 😦
brisk trail
i've seen the surface many times uwu
patent topaz
but do you need them?
brisk trail
i'd love to have them
patent topaz
https://imgur.com/ft3MVr9 this is an old version of tartarus tho not the actual one
Last one is surface
patent topaz
these are from the nighty night update (except ofc the 4th), if they updated the views on v.01 at least now you know the points
you can F11
Ah yes it's just that the corridor is a bit different, not the view
tame sigil
hey guys what boons would u most pair with chairons bow?
sharp fossil
i tend to go for aphro on attack, artemis on special and heart rend
still isle
i never actually realized you could look at the ||elysium|| cliffs
thick ledge
I find doom on attack
With chiron bow to be quite nice
Because it procs during the down time before you can attack again
static wadi
@tame sigil Aphro attack dio Q
and their duoboon
or Aphro attack and Ares Q
and their duoboon
but ares requires longer doom and stacking doom
to be effective
brisk trail
Yeah every zone has a cliff you can overlook
brisk trail
Anyone else think that chaos’s tile set is way too cool not to have its own stage? I’d have loved that
tawdry flower
Or ||Persephone’s keepsake for free Poms||
static wadi
@tawdry flower it's random but if u know u can find it in the very begining
nah
till too weak
u can have 1-2 poms
it's not rly great
tawdry flower
With ||Persephone||’s keepsake, you can end up getting around 15 free levels
static wadi
but they will be random
vernal spade
I wish there was a multiplayer game with Hades’ combat and loadout building. Sigh.
hybrid arch
https://i.imgur.com/3C9JSy8.jpeg - Anyone ever have their game not freeze but cant exit menus?
onyx topaz
Hades Test Branch, are there patch notes for this?
mellow raven
What is the aim to play with Hell Mode enabled ? Except a harder game. More ressources ?
wind wedge
It's Hard mode, basically. So: a harder game.
cloud apex
harder game from very start, PoP available without beating final boss
vernal spade
Pact of Punishment is present since the very start with 5 heat that can’t be lowered. It’s basically just hard mode.
candid bolt
So there is someone from terraria sever here, lol
tame sigil
using a bow which hammer do u guys recommend? three wide shot or rapidly shooting but no charged shot
sick pumice
spread is pretty solid
what exactly is 'favor'? i got posideon to start once with his legendary. waht caused this and does it ever happen again?
void vigil
that's a scripted event, it doesnt happen again
static wadi
@tame sigil it depends on aspect
and build
with chiron u want better special
with zag u want better attack
with hera u dont care about hammer)
tame sigil
yeah the hammer only gave me stuff for attack cuz i already upgrade my special
4 shots extra is insane
static wadi
@void vigil it wotk always or only for 1 run?
@tame sigil u can have 2 upgrades for special
sick pumice
@void vigil what is god favor though?
void vigil
favors are certain things you need to do in order to unlock characters hearts so you can start gifting them ambrosia
vernal spade
Why is it so hard to trigger conversations from ||Asterius and Chaos|| to unlock ||hidden aspects||? Reached true ending long ago and still they just talk random crap >.<
distant lotus
If you need help, there'll be a list of things you need to do in pinnedmessages in #h1-story-discussion
If you've already done everything you need then that is just unfortunate RNG
tawdry flower
Did you reach ||epilogue||, @vernal spade ?
When ||Persephone|| throws a ||party||?
narrow hemlock
aw I thought greg was gonna make an official comment on the fan merch debacle bc that's a hot topic on twitter right now
opaque nexus
rip feedback
leaden kelp
will be there patch notes for the test branch?
brisk trail
I think so
dense reef
Can we expect QoL improvements / Give suggestions for them in the test branch?
ivory walrus
aw, I really was hoping for some more minor updates but it's understandable
heavy plaza
Okay, y'know what I want? A supergiant game with mod support
ivory walrus
The state the game's in right now is really good
heavy plaza
Custom gods would be so amazing
ivory walrus
it's definitely a lot of work for something that wasnt planned
ocean kayak
i'm really thrilled to have been with this game this far.
I know they don't have any plans for a sequel, but like........I'd buy it if they did.
magic pawn
#hades-faq says october sometime
@candid bolt thanks!
opaque nexus
... im not crying my eyes are wet
ivory walrus
I think the only things I want left for this game would be like
A Boon Training Room (Big One)
Slightly reworked Heat Progression to reward trying out higher levels rather than one at a time
ivory walrus
oh neat
vernal spade
I want Hades with co-op. : s
ivory walrus
Aside from that though like
static wadi
well at least it was there year ago
ivory walrus
I'm happy with the game as is
heavy plaza
Yeah I agree this game is in an amazing place and if they stopped working on it now I'd be happy
I'm not complaining, I just want more Hades
void atlas
they have stopped working on it
ivory walrus
(I also kinda want Sys's old Keepsake brought back somehow)
I like extra trap damage
merry moat
If the game wasn't finished i would not be playing it yet
tardy wagon
They have every potential to make Hades a bigger game, but leaving it here is good tbf
leaden kelp
i didnt play early access but I want to thanks super giant games for giving us an awesome game. i never really enjoyed rogue like games until Hades
merry moat
me too
heavy plaza
And the only one I was really ever sucked into
tardy wagon
Third for me so far xD
opaque nexus
I've played a few
ocean kayak
Same honestly
tardy wagon
Binding of isaac, Gungeon and now Hades
opaque nexus
this is unlike any other
static wadi
well it's roguelite not roguelike
opaque nexus
watching this game develop was an experience
opaque nexus
the days where I would excitedly come home from school to play the new update
tardy wagon
I'm still surprised they didn't use Arachne as a boss of some sort xD
heavy plaza
I liked Into the Breach, and I've played quite a few roguelikes but nothing really stacks up to Hades
The build system is so versatile and the way they tie story to runs is amazing
limpid crown
Oh damn, so no dlc? :c
rough merlin
hmmm
cobalt prairie
Is there a pattern to how and when hammers spawn? Ive been trying to understand better but i cant seem to get more than like 1-2 hammers per run. they seem so impactful if you can hit the right options
inland lake
cobalt prairie
oh i see
tardy wagon
It's all RNg outside of modifiers from the Mirror afaik
i've had more than two in a run
spice wolf
are they gonna continue to bring out new content for the game??
ocean kayak
Even if you choose not to take a hammer when it's presented to you, it'll show up in your way later
merry moat
No
ocean kayak
you can only fail to get upgrades if you go out of your way to avoid them every time
ivory walrus
Usually you get 1 in Tartarus, 1 in Elysseum, but if you dont find one I think the chance for one to present itself carries over
merry moat
At least they don't plan to yet
tardy wagon
With alters it certainly is
ivory walrus
You used to be able to get a 3rd in Styx shop, but I dont think you can anymore
shut geyser
Supergiant hasn’t really done dlc in the past but with it being a rogue like I’d be surprised if they didn’t do dlc at some point
cobalt prairie
You can get the hammer anvil in the 4th area shop
but i dont know that that counts
ivory walrus
ah right the anvil
shut geyser
I’d prefer transistor 2 to dlc tbh
tardy wagon
There's plenty of greek lore for them to pull from for DLC tbf
ivory walrus
haha I'd be happy with either
I think Hades is more compatible with potential follow up or QoL upgrades though
shut geyser
There is a ton of content they could do. I’m just saying as a studio they haven’t done it before that I’m aware of?
ivory walrus
Transistor is a pretty complete package
shut geyser
It certainly is
quiet gull
The problem with DLC for this game is that you cant really make the game longer without throwing the balance way off course
cobalt prairie
I really enjoy the hades mechanics and how it all came together. I think theres a fair amount of design space for dlc
merry moat
I would love an Arthurian legends themed roguelike
shut geyser
The games incredible no doubt dlc would be welcome and bought
tardy wagon
You can add more areas/enemies, an extra weapon or two
void atlas
I think Supergiant has a no DLC policy
shut geyser
^^
tardy wagon
without throwing the balance too far off, but where it is now is fine xD
cobalt prairie
That makes sense. they do tend to focus on dropping complete packages
shut geyser
I mean. Jeez I’d love two more acts where you fight up to Olympus but the game is a complete package as is
ivory walrus
you know actually people have already been making mods so who knows
shut geyser
Or to be able to play the escape as Achilles or Meg with a different story
cobalt prairie
having alternate areas you could hit in the different levels would be nice.
ivory walrus
I want like
cobalt prairie
Only one im not a big fan of is the 4th area.
ivory walrus
1 more "Quality of Life/Secondary Features" update
tame sigil
what do ||erebus gates|| do?
void atlas
put you into a ||challenge room where you have to fight without losing health||
ivory walrus
Training Room for Upgrades, Custum Run Options, Reworked Heat Progression, Endless Mode maybe almost definitely not
cobalt prairie
Ive not entered them much. What happens if you do lose hp?
tawdry flower
If you get hit, you get a crap prize instead of the room’s icon
ivory walrus
But like the core game is almost perfect rn
tawdry flower
And you still have to finish the fight
cobalt prairie
its well made 100%
drowsy wadi
yo so like what if they announce zagreus for smash
@drowsy wadi well I guess anything is possible now
coral verge
you get an onion that heals you for 1 hp instead of whatever you were suppose to get
cobalt prairie
I think the only thing thatd be nice would be more variation in the bosses kinda like with the furies or have 2-3 different bosses you could pull in each area
But the pacing in the runs and how it all functions is wonderful
static wadi
well they add kinda variation for hydra
past cave
Whats an easy way to farm gems?
heavy plaza
play the game
cobalt prairie
kinda. I do appreciate that change
heavy plaza
You get so many damn gems
cobalt prairie
Get the upgrade where gems drop from bosses or prophecies
ivory walrus
Infernal Chests mostly
past cave
also what's an easy way to farm diamonds
coral verge
bounties
ivory walrus
For the 3 Boss Rewards it's literally just
static wadi
and last shop
cobalt prairie
fishing and -heat runs-
ivory walrus
Save money and complete runs
cobalt prairie
oh my bad
ivory walrus
I mean it's fine, "heat" doesnt tell you anything, just dont explain what it's tied to
merry moat
I dreamed to encounter other heroes at Elysium
cobalt prairie
That would be awesome. more boss fight variation like with the elite enemy rooms. I love what they did in the tartarus rooms
merry moat
oh god, really?
static wadi
all swordsmen bowmen spearmen are heroes
willow swallow
I forget, whats the lock on a heart mean in the codex/
merry moat
i mean the big ones
cobalt prairie
You gotta do something for them
static wadi
they are
ivory walrus
you need to hit specific conversations or events
merry moat
the bigger ones
static wadi
heracles is on the olimp
ivory walrus
oh yea
void atlas
it's every hero who ever lived
cobalt prairie
Heracules, achillies, odyssyus
merry moat
Perseus, Heracles, Ody
cobalt prairie
pers would work as well
past cave
So back to triggering events and such for the lock, how would you do it for ||Poseidon||
ivory walrus
||Fishing I think?||
tawdry flower
Poseidon needs ||25 fish, one legendary||
tawdry flower
Nope.
tawdry flower
You just have to hit the number, and get the legendary (||very rare and needs perfect catch)||
merry moat
also Jason
cobalt prairie
Crazy idea, It would be cool if the final boss used other weapons/movesets based on the one you were not using for some further variation
static wadi
yeah it would be cool something new for t&m
cobalt prairie
t&m?
static wadi
only thing u can reach is their new skill
ivory walrus
any tips for perfect catches
static wadi
teseus and mino
cobalt prairie
oooooh
ivory walrus
its like the one thing I cant do lmao
tawdry flower
The bobber dips between 0 and 5 times before a bite. If it goes over 1 second without a dip, it won’t be biting next
static wadi
as ppl say
cobalt prairie
I mean other heroes in the arena. would be the first thought but require the most work.
static wadi
perfect catch go in a flash
tawdry flower
If it bites first, I almost NEVER get the perfect catch
sinful yew
.
past cave
wait so how 2 perfect catch
distant lotus
You have to catch the fish really quickly after seeing the flash of light
So it's a matter of time as well as luck
cobalt prairie
Kinda like with bow and the perfect shot
distant lotus
But you get less time to hit it
marsh field
I feel like I'm too old to react that quickly
static wadi
how old u r
marsh field
36
flat notch
I take it with the way that announcement came in, that's a solid inferance that there won't be much "New Content" as opposed to balancing and rebalancing patches for Hades?
merry moat
what does you get for a perfect catch?
marsh field
me too, I found the best way is to let my eyes kinda glaze over a bit and be really serene mentally and react rather than decide to click
but I still have a lot of fish I havent found :<
static wadi
i think i still need rare for aspho and rare for surface
flat notch
There's fish in one of the realms that I have never actually found a fishing point for and it kills me
novel spindle
a piece of advice that helped me with fishing is that when the fish bites the bob goes down sooner then when its not biting, so i stay tense for a bit, then relax until it bobs, then tense again
flat notch
yeah, and I do a lot of runs where I go out of my way to visit chaos.
static wadi
@flat notch i think fishing spots in chaos are more rare
than surface
and it's weird
novel spindle
i have never had a naturally occuring fishing point in chaos, only thanks to well fish bait did i manage to fish twice there
flat notch
I think they are, but it's still annoying that I've yet to see one and I'm like, 150 escape attempts in
novel spindle
same
flat notch
That's not a bad idea kyoshijiro.
novel spindle
im curious if maybe people from early access have some kind of bug that makes it so fish dont naturally spawn in chaos?
dusk mantle
Holy hell, hermes 30% attack speed on Demeter fists is nuts. Love it xD
You get your charged special so fast
dire coyote
I'm at 22 runs right now, I almost died to the third area boss and then died immediately upon fighting enemies in the fourth area lmao
novel spindle
Ok than some people are either ridiculously unlucky to never get the fishing point, or some people are ridiculously lucky to get it despite the odds
heavy plaza
Never ever gotten a chaos fish and I'm new
novel spindle
I think it might have to do with saves
Well im just being paranoid, no idea if its a bug or bad luck
static wadi
@novel spindle how many runs?
novel spindle
143
novel spindle
I saw
static wadi
and have 4-5 fishes
mental yew
how do i put pictgure into char in discord
novel spindle
Im gonna write in the feedback asking they up the chances
dire coyote
Whats a chaos fish lmao
sand stump
Man i really want them to expand the game 😦
static wadi
@dire coyote it's chaotic fish
burnt breach
add .png at the end of the link
static wadi
mental yew
ahh ty
tawdry flower
Chaos fish are just rare and need to be a set distance from your last fish or rely on a well
static wadi
copy link to picture not link to page
mental yew
every time I up the heat i break my speed record
when i try and go fast i always end up 1-2 mins slower
static wadi
heat is kinda spoiler dude
dire coyote
lmao what, I've only done 22 runs but idk anything about fish
static wadi
@dire coyote well u will know later
mental yew
but didn't see fish until 15+ iirc
tawdry flower
You can get a fishing pole as a purchase from the contractor for 1 diamond. It is worth it for the resources you can get with it
mental yew
does anyone else find the sword suuuper clunky to use?
I seem to take a huge amount of damage compared to other weapons when I use the sword
dire coyote
personally my favorites are the shield and rail
mental yew
I like shield, fists and spear
but I only like spear with nemesis
anything else and it feels too clunky for me
mental yew
hades*
vernal spade
Sword is one of the easiest weapons. Especially with Cursed Slash boon.
mental yew
yeah
spear with hades
@vernal spade when i use the sword the final hit in the combo puts me forward and I often go in lava etc
static wadi
for spear i only prefer secret aspect
mental yew
have you tried hades?
vernal spade
Well you can always dodge
static wadi
for sword i prefer not to use it at all
mental yew
with the dmg from cast shield buff + a nemesis attack you are at like 200% enhanced damage on every ability without a single boon
static wadi
i do not love spear cus it spin attack make u vulnerable
vernal spade
I don’t even finish my combo sequences and just dash all over the place
merry moat
i never use spin attack with spear
novel spindle
i love the sword in all its aspects
mental yew
sword is without doubtmy least favorite
merry moat
either i throw and drag or normal attack
mental yew
so with nemesis aspect its 150% enhanced dmg for x seconds after you spin
you can get the hammer upgrade that makes your dash attack hit 3 times
and with the mirror buff anything you cast on takes 50% more dmg
it's really easy to get silly dmg without much investment with nemesis
static wadi
hades aspect*
static wadi
nemesis is a sword!!!
mental yew
yeah keep getting it wrong lol
hades* xD
same with the shield, there is an upgrade that makes you hitx2 instead of knockback
so I really like getting that and just going for a melee shield build
vernal spade
I prefer fast cast for bull rush and bull rush converted to projectile. That thing just melts xd
wide helm
I hope that if Supergiant doesn't ||change the death animation post-credits from "is there no escape?" to "taken by the styx", then perhaps someone will release a mod to do it. Because I think it feels very jarring as it is currently||
toxic crest
Is supergiant going to continue releasing support for the game or is the game done?
tawdry flower
Patches and bug fixes
tawdry flower
Check the announcement that was just made
static wadi
i wantted gefest
toxic crest
What's gefest?
toxic crest
Gephest?
novel spindle
Hephaustus
static wadi
mb
toxic crest
Hephaestus is cool. I think he's in ki:u
static wadi
in what
toxic crest
Kid icarus uprising.
static wadi
it's a game?
toxic crest
Yes
tawdry flower
One of the best for 3DS
toxic crest
Ah nope its dyntos not hephaestus
Speaking of which I havent seen any mention of cupid either... but I also havent maxed out friendship with dusa either
cinder lichen
Sooo, like, from what I gather from the ping,
Hades Feedback is getting it's own game version?
toxic crest
Theres a test branch for bug fixes it seems
cinder lichen
I see a discussion channel there...
I assume it's something like a PTR. The nature of the "changes" wasn't described in the ping itself,
I've yet to read the readme or any of the channel descs, but I assume the "changes" could also mean any gameplay tweaks, big or small.
woeful finch
I would assume bug fixes and small QoL stuff
cinder lichen
I suppose I wouldn't expect anything more than that kinda stuff. Especially after they announce their break.
static wadi
what is qol
cinder lichen
Quality of Life
cinder lichen
eck, fair
static wadi
@brisk trail spoilers bro
iirc u 1st speak with meg
2nd hades
after u can find item in contractor
well it was year ago
mb they kinda changed it with administartium room
static wadi
try to nyx
toxic crest
I kinda wish the gods' keepsakes increased the chance of finding a boon from that god
static wadi
@toxic crest they do no?
novel spindle
thye say that they make sure the first boon you find after you pick up the boon is of that god but it doesnt always work
toxic crest
Hermes doesnt usually count
You often find Hermes instead and he makes a remark saying "lol first" basically.
Doesnt consume the charge though
cinder lichen
You will always find at least 2 of Hermes' Boons. 3 at most, after Elysium.
static wadi
cus hermes not usual god
4
as i heard
but when u find 1 god
i will meet him/her more often
toxic crest
Hermes is treated differently by the game in most cases it seems, since his boons dont really interact with other gods' boons. Kinda like chaos.
toxic crest
Speaking of chaos, they're kind of strange in that their keepsake doesnt guarantee am appearance
marsh pendant
Got a question about a weird interaction between an Aphrodite boon and the third boss (not sure if spoilers). Should I ask it here or another channel?
static wadi
ask here
novel spindle
i guess in build and combat would be more appropiate
static wadi
3rd boss are not spoilers iirc
marsh pendant
Build and combat? Thanks!
cinder lichen
The egg does increase Chaos spawns, though, right?
toxic crest
Nipe
static wadi
nope
novel spindle
nope
toxic crest
At least it doesnt say that it does.
novel spindle
and it doesnt in my experience
toxic crest
I've gone full runs with egg and no chaos gates appeared
eager path
When you can't play hades for a day because you have so much to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxYkB3BE5HE
cinder lichen
blargh
toxic crest
I've been playing it for like 5 days straight
novel spindle
for me its that image, but its when playing hades and i have stuff i should actually be doing
eager path
Hades is so hard and addictive
toxic crest
God mode is a great way to play the game at your own pace rather than have the game gatekeep you with extreme difficulty
static wadi
well god mode is for ppl who intrested in story more
mental yew
is the game that difficult tho?
rough token
For a lot of people, yes
smoky wharf
i mean the only thing i can seem gatekeeping me in the game is the ||heat modifiers in the postgame|| but outside of that I've been able to play the game with no problem, but if the game is hard for you then don't let my opinion discredit your choice to turn on godmode if you need it
static wadi
i cant say it is
eager path
Wait
static wadi
well i do not try high diff run
toxic crest
At the cap of 80% damage reduction I still lose sometimes
mental yew
I think godmode is a bad idea - the game isn't as hard as you probably think it is but god mode will teach you not to play it how you are meant to
toxic crest
Without modifiers
rough token
This is a game that different people will have wildly different experiences playing, and God Mode helps even that out
smoky wharf
God mode is an option that can be turned on in options and it makes the game become easier with each consequtive death
eager path
Do u have to do anything to earn it
rough token
@mental yew I think quite the opposite. God Mode is a way to learn how to get better at the game
smoky wharf
nope its available from the get-go
tight plover
just check the box in the settings tab
smoky wharf
it wasn't on by default for me
toxic crest
@mental yew that's an elitist argument. People should be able to play the game how they're comfortable to, not how the game wants them to.
smoky wharf
oh
rough token
Accessibility options 
tight plover
i just started playing hades like 2 days ago after i was done playing with dead cells
loving roguelites rn
smoky wharf
Honestly i appreciate it when games add easier modes
smoky wharf
i don't typically take advantage of them but they are a nice feature for when i may need them
mental yew
@toxic crest don't think it's an elitist argument
say I know some stuff it's ok to risk tanking
some stuff isn't
if I have 50% dmg reduction
I won't know the difference
smoky wharf
Well some people will need the easier mode to practice
rough token
Okay
toxic crest
Saying that god mode teaches you to play the game in a way you arent supposed to is elitist.
smoky wharf
As i hate to break it to you but not everyone has equal skillsets
so some people need all the help they can get to play a game at an equal level
tight plover
@mental yew yeah it's true that it gives you bad habits if you want to play the game on regular mode later but i feel like it's fine if people want to play it on an easier difficulty
rough token
If I'm beating my head against the Hydra for 20 runs in a row, I'm going to want a way to make it easier so I can learn how to beat it, and then eventually I'll be able to turn it off if I want to
toxic crest
It might enable bad habits for higher difficulty play down the line, but chances are the people playing god mode arent the ones who care about that sort of thing.
rough token
To be perfectly clear: God Mode is an accessibility option that makes the game more available to people with different skillets. Saying you think it is bad as a whole is elitist.
Now, if you think it was implemented poorly and could be done better, that's a discussion I'm willing to have
toxic crest
Honestly hades' god mode is one of the best easy mode implementations I've ever seen in a game but that's my opinion.
rough token
My issue is you can't scale it back down
Once it goes up, it stays up until you turn it off
smoky wharf
Oh was just about to ask if you could
smoky wharf
i'd say that the one thing that may be needed is the ability to reduce if you feel the game gets too easy
toxic crest
I can see that
leaden kelp
i dont use god mode but being able to reset it seems like a reasonable request
brisk trail
Kind of strange question but, can I cheese the ||"Harsh Conditions"|| prophecy? ||Like, I've reached minimum heat 4 requirement, but one of the condition only provides heat 2, if I redo the heat 2 with this new condition, it's still considered completed, right?||
rough token
You can do one at a time, yeah @brisk trail
toxic crest
My counter argument for that is that you can balance with ||heat modifiers|| but I understand your perspective.
smoky wharf
i mean you can counter balance with heat modifiers but what if you wanted to get better at base level so you want to decrease damage reduction
brisk trail
@rough token Thanks!
brisk trail
xD I see, thinking of ||cheesing Extreme Measures, Deadline||, etc, one at a time. Hahaha
@static wadi no, what I meant was, did it require the latest minimum heat requirement for them to count. But apparently no. 😄
rough token
@static wadi pre-1.0, Wriste13 did || max heat ||. I don't think anyone has done so yet in 1.0
toxic crest
You can do multiples at once too.
rough token
And now, I gotta go! Lots of writing to do for school
static wadi
gl
remote ember
How can I post in the feedback channel? There's a little 🚫 symbol. I know it's too late but I'd love to add at least something...
tawdry flower
You need to go to the bot commands and get the role first
remote ember
okay...hw do i do that?
brisk trail
You can do multiples at once too.
@toxic crest I am. Max 4 at once the best I could do. Higher than that, still no bueno
remote ember
how do I reach those without scrolling upward through years of comments, though??
static wadi
press pin button?
brisk trail
Yea, between bell & persons
remote ember
oohhh, I found it, thanks guys 😄
Ugh now I can't find where I'm supposed to type the code that'll let me comment.
There's 1, 200 pages! but no comment box. I'm confused...
rough token
@remote ember #bot-commands
rough token
Gznm, you can be a bit nicer about that
static wadi
it's not good when ppl are not understand what that channel is about
rough token
True, but you can have a bit of patience
cobalt prairie
huh why do people say the bow is slow and unfun?
Its my favorite weapon by a longshot
remote ember
I'd just found it, so thanks, but be nice! 😢
static wadi
they better read untill they understand
rough token
@cobalt prairie was that a pun?
@static wadi and that's true, but you can say it nicely
foggy snow
whats the song on the main menu called?
static wadi
i'm too old to be nice sorry
remote ember
Yeah!
static wadi
well bad for you i guess(
remote ember
Come on, dude. Haven't you ever heard of, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" If YOU needed help, I wouldn't've been rude!
static wadi
i wasnt rude
rough token
You kinda were
static wadi
nope i wasnt
rough token
read
pins
again
That's rude.
A more polite way would be
please read the pins again
static wadi
could you be so kind to read pin again if it wont be troublesome for you please
that enough?
cobalt prairie
@rough token I mean it wasnt an intentional pun XD but bow is my favorite weapon by a large margin
rough token
That's edging into sarcasm, but I'll take it at face value and say yes, that's better
remote ember
@rough token thank you for being helpful AND kind. I couldn't find the channel and only found a replica of it without the comment box, somehow, I don't know how Discord works entirely, so thank you!! ❤️ ❤️ And thanks for defending me and standing up to this guy for/with me ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
rough token
No worries ^.^
remote ember
That "more polite" way isn't exactly genuine, gzmn...it felt forced; you were just repeating what Swan wanted to hear. You need to respect other people.
remote ember
raises eyebrow skeptically Then why the rudeness?
static wadi
you only want to see it like that
unkempt nacelle
Hey maybe a different topic but: is there a way to remove / replace the gem studded pillars next to the pool? I dont like them 😄
rough token
Hmm
remote ember
The House Contractor?
rough token
@unkempt nacelle yes, click on them again in the contractor
remote ember
@rough token gives thankful hug 🙂 🙂 🙂
rough token
@static wadi I think I see part of what's happening.
Do you see
read
pins
again
As being rude? As in, saying it like that?
unkempt nacelle
nono they are there from the beginning @rough token not something you buy
static wadi
what rude do u see here?
coral verge
if it's an unlockable cosmetic then yeah just click on it or choose another one in the same category to replace it
unkempt nacelle
yeah its not an unlock, i was hoping an unlock replaces it
static wadi
or if i do not ssay pls it automaticaly become rude?
rough token
@static wadi I think I see part of what's happening.
Do you see
read
pins
again
As being rude? As in, saying it like that?
static wadi
what a noncence
coral verge
@static wadi you are rude, there's no way around it. Maybe you didn't mean it but tone doesn't carry over internet well
rough token
Hold on please, Yaku
static wadi
i guess u can@coral verge see my tone is better than me?
rough token
Gzmn, words carry differently when typed out. putting each word on a new line like that conveys a sense of annoyance and aggression
static wadi
i had no any intention to be rude
coral verge
I guess English isn't your first language?
static wadi
and if you see it u have very rich imagination
rough token
May not have been intended, but that's how it's commonly interpreted within these circles
static wadi
nope it isnt
brisk trail
@static wadi Being nice has nothing to do with age.
static wadi
i have another opinion
rough token
About which part?
static wadi
both
shut flicker
||OK i need some help rn dont want to interupt discussion but idk y but I have still not gotten the convo with achilies to get the hidden aspects||
remote ember
Hey @rough token I posted in the feedback part, but now the screen shakes when I try to post something else--are you only allowed to make one comment per person? 🤔
rough token
I'm not going to say that you're wrong, because I don't know your experience. However, what I will tell you is how your words are interpreted
@remote ember 2 minute timer ^.^
remote ember
ohhh, haha, thanks again!! 😄
coral verge
@shut flicker ||unlock any 5 aspects then pray for RNG chat||
rough token
@shut flicker #h1-story-discussion , check the pins. Unless you have the pre-reqs, then ping me there and I'll help out
static wadi
@rough token ppl always like interpretate word in way different it was said
nothing new here
rough token
The issue here, is that speaking online you have even less control over how your words are interpreted, so you need to be precise in how you speak
static wadi
and i have no interest in this again
static wadi
wp
coral verge
have you seen the credits?
shut flicker
66 runs and still nothign
static wadi
now do it again!
shut flicker
yes
coral verge
weird, you already have the requirements?
rough token
Pinged you in spoilers, Little Mount
static wadi
what spoilers?
rough token
static wadi
@shut flicker epilogue?
unkempt nacelle
It took me 86 runs to the credits, dont worry 😄
shut flicker
wait there is an epilogue
rough token
Just remember any details about post game should be in the spoilers chat
shut flicker
wat
static wadi
or just ||quuen back?||
rough token
wait there is an epilogue
@shut flicker yup, there's an achievement for it
static wadi
it's not the end]
shut flicker
how do u start it
shut flicker
geez there is aloit of pins
static wadi
28 runs for me for same
shut flicker
cant see the pin
rough token
Just a sec
rough token
I actually haven't gotten there yet, any discussion about it should be in the spoiler chat
shut flicker
well ill just say i have my work cut out
brisk trail
Hey guys
rough token
Heyo!
brisk trail
I'm becomming literally mad trying to fix the saving issue
rough token
#h1-tech-support is probably your best bet
rough token
No worries!
sweet cove
do +attack % modifiers affect the dash strike with sword / spear?
static wadi
y
timid hill
chaos boon
static wadi
curse?
timid hill
reduce your max hp by 49
static wadi
lol!
median smelt
hahaha, nice
static wadi
all run is like big erebus
indigo nest
keen tartan
wait is it possible to reset god mode?? i died enough times that god mode is now too easy & regular mode is too hard LOL
coral verge
it's all or nothing, you can't adjust god mode %
keen tartan
rip just gotta git gud i guess 😔
left idol
You think they will put this game on sale on eshop?
keen tartan
it was like 20% off when i got it on switch
strong knoll
What's titan blood for?
median smelt
@strong knoll Upgrading your weapon aspects
strong knoll
Oh, how?
median smelt
also trading, but it's super scarce
In the room with skelly
when you pick your weapon, you can also pick your aspects after picking said weapon
strong knoll
I don't see anything for aspects.
lyric bison
I think im at 55 runs
strong knoll
Ah, cool thanks.
static wadi
or at least unlock all and do a run
trail onyx
in 40 hrs i havent seen food from an urn a single time
brisk trail
in 40 hrs i havent seen food from an urn a single time
@trail onyx I think it depends on keepsake, or specific boons?
wind wedge
Isn't that just for one specific keepsake, yeah?
smoky wharf
i only know of a keepsake
median smelt
I think it actually got erased, i got some food in early access, but 1.0 not
trail onyx
Xd
smoky wharf
the contractor upgrade is for money i think
wind wedge
Money from urns is definitely a contractor upgrade
brisk trail
wasnt it contractor upgrade?
@trail onyx That's for coins
median smelt
@trail onyx I think so, I'm sure it was in Hydra boss room
dusky wagon
EM4 clear. Heroic Athena Throw, Athena Dash, Athena Divine Protection and heroic Aphrodite Attack lvl 6. Guan Yu. He stood no chance.
brisk trail
@median smelt neat. TIL about that.
dusky wagon
Only true ending open, but I dunno how to get it. Is it rng based progression?
static wadi
athena dash can win anything
dusky wagon
Also had bigger spin. With +178% attack damage one charge did 1k+ damage.
wind wedge
I really really wish it were easier to activate the ||poison removal pools in Styx||. I just had a perfect ruin die to that - 3 death defiances expended fumbling with that hunting for the ||Satyr sack||.
static wadi
@wind wedge use patrokl trinket
wind wedge
(I would have won if not for that, too - I had a cheesy Shield and Demeter cast build, but just didn't have enough health to survive the odd mistake after that.)
distant siren
quick question about the mirror, when picking 1 of the 2 options, if you put darkness into the unused skill will you get it's benefits?
wind wedge
No, just the one of the pair you have visible
distant siren
ok, thank you 🙂
ah! also that fated decision, does upping it's rank make god boons appear less in trade for pom's and hammers?
wind wedge
@wind wedge use patrokl trinket
@static wadi I mean, sure - but that's severely limiting for almost every other cool build thing. Also, all I want is for ||the pools to be easier to use||, not removing the effect entirely.
carmine ravine
just stop getting poisoned smj
wind wedge
Cheers Hypnos~
median smelt
@wind wedge While not struggling with the same issue, the pools could have more range of activation than they have now, certainly wouldn't hurt
distant siren
did anyone see my question about fated decision? :0
tawny haven
Is it just me or is the gauntlet weapon absolutely broken? You take hermes dodge keepsake, build it up. Take the dodge chance hermes boon and the boon that lets you regain some health after dashing. Then SPAM atk and dash and nothing can ever damage you
you should try it it's hilarious
but maybe the developers should know that this is kind of unbeatable
i am on a 5 win streak with it
I also saw that the hermes boon is already nerfed compared to early access
But maybe not enough
If you play well you can still get to ~30% dodge chance +10% with boon and +15% with gauntlet passive
half of the attacks wont even hit
wind wedge
did anyone see my question about fated decision? :0
@distant siren isn't that Dark Foresight? The one that improves the chance for certain rewards?
distant siren
yeah
dusky wagon
What's the point of shield hidden aspect? I don't see why loading the spell is better than just casting it?
wind wedge
yeah
@distant siren Probability is conserved, so yeah, the ones that make a particular thing more likely take from the likelihood of the alternatives, evenly.
cobalt prairie
you missed it
wind wedge
I have like 10 hours in the game and I was skipping all the dialogues.
Did I forever miss important ones to the story, or it will eventually all repeat?
@brisk trail ...you missed important ones to the story.
distant siren
hmmmm maybe i should only half max it then...
cobalt prairie
@brisk trail I would recommend starting over. the narrative is half the fun of the game
wind wedge
It's an approximately linear narrative, and certainly there's no repetition of plot points. You're expected to be actually invested :p
It's not a huge hardship, you only have 10 hours 🙂
livid tundra
;(
ouch
wind wedge
Depends on how often you play, I guess.
livid tundra
10 hours is 2 days for me 
help
wind wedge
I have about 66 hours, and haven't been playing much longer than 2 weeks 😉
cobalt prairie
I mean if you dont care about story just keep going but id start over to get the narrative
livid tundra
^
wind wedge
It makes it more challenging
dusky wagon
Worlds 1-2 Pom Blossom is the best keepsake hands down. I alrady have lvl 6 festive bog and I'm not even at the first boss yet xD
livid tundra
it makes things harder, if you wanna get through it faster you'd want god mode
wind wedge
Worlds 1-2 Pom Blossom is the best keepsake hands down. I alrady have lvl 6 festive bog and I'm not even at the first boss yet xD
@dusky wagon Isn't that supposed to be the case, given it's a ||reward for getting to the epilogue phase||?
(I look forward to being able to use it, but since I'm on exactly 1 clear in 66 hours 😉 )
I mean, that depends on how hard you're finding it.
coral verge
Hell mode isn't worth it even for speedrunners, just play normally
dusky wagon
Jesus, 66 hours 1 clear? Wtf?
cobalt prairie
Hell mode is to make it more difficult
wind wedge
Jesus, 66 hours 1 clear? Wtf?
@dusky wagon some people find games harder than others [and I was enjoying the story at the rate it developed, so didn't turn God Mode on yet]
cobalt prairie
Fair theres hoenstly a lot of story to be had when you play and fail
dusky wagon
By sheer brute force with 3 DD and the like you'd eventually beat it tho. Skill ceiling is decently high, but there is only so much where skill is involed.
cobalt prairie
if you are too good you miss some dialogue ;-;
wind wedge
I still haven't run out - I am yet to completely finish the ||Achilles and Patroclus|| plot, just due to RNG 😉
livid tundra
at 100 hours I havent gotten thru the whole story @brisk trail
slow seal
The story is so amazing honestly
livid tundra
ikr
cobalt prairie
it requires a pretty large number of clears iirc
livid tundra
its what keeps me hooked
slow seal
Yup
I never TRY to do everything after reaching the ending. But this game makes me want too
wind wedge
By sheer brute force with 3 DD and the like you'd eventually beat it tho. Skill ceiling is decently high, but there is only so much where skill is involed.
@dusky wagon Right, and I eventually beat it with 3DD etc, on run 107. I'm waiting for more good luck - and less ||poison|| - to beat it some more (up to run 113 now so...).
cobalt prairie
the story is handed out expertly little by little
slow seal
Because it’s that’s much fun and I love the characters that much
brisk trail
Yeah same. I still havent put the game down and I've done gotten the ending an everything.
dusky wagon
I uninstalled the game after clearing it 10 times for epilogue. But I saw what EM was afterwards and that there is a true end, so I installed it 2 days later. Tho, not sure how to unlock it. I just beat EM4 on my second try. So I need to google it or otherwise I might be at an end afterall now.
slow seal
I love playing on god mode
Otherwise I get frustrated. I’m not very good at games so I appreciate it
dusky wagon
I was surprised too.
wind wedge
Ah I see the god mode, didn't even know it's there..... I feel like that would kill the whole point of playing roguelike, maybe.
@brisk trail I mean, if Hades were a roguelike, sure. But since it's a roguelite with narrative progression...
ebon sleet
but we had drinks at the lounge... and blacked out
wind wedge
Orpheus is super a guy, he's just very 80s goth about it.
Again, narrative progression versus other styles of game.
slow seal
I wasn’t surprised cuz I knew Greek mythology but I did think, oh did they change his gender in this? At first
static wadi
@wind wedge he was goth untill 80 even exist
cobalt prairie
@dusky wagon EM?
dusky wagon
Knowing what Boons are good is half the job.
@cobalt prairie extreme measures. Basically much much harder boss fights.
@cobalt prairie For instance, ||you fight all furies at once.||
cobalt prairie
oooooooooooooh
wind wedge
makes me feel weak
@brisk trail I mean, being good at a video game, just like anything else, is merely a proof of itself. It's not exactly a moral virtue.
cobalt prairie
yeah i turned that on immediately and have been slowly upping my difficulty to get it turned on all the way
wind wedge
(It's not a moral sin, either, of course, it's just what it is)
I mean, so did I, and I've been doing it longer than you probably. 🙂
But it took me around 107 attempts to get a clear, and you'll probably get one by hour 20
People vary in their ability to do things like playing video games
but that doesn't really "mean anything"
dusky wagon
I'd say stick to a weapon to learn it and what the boons do.
The mirror is also a great way to make the game vastly easier. The one where your casting-gem returns automatically is FANTASTIC
In the mirror your can choose between 2 choices. I cleared the game before realizing.
Some of the "other options" are way better than the shadow ones.
wind wedge
You unlock that when you also open up the first set of extra options, I think
for the 5 key spend on the mirror
gilded fractal
Is Dash-Strike considered an Attack?
wind wedge
At least it happened around that time for me, so it's probably keyed to dialogue
dusky wagon
Yes
gilded fractal
ty
wind wedge
Probably dialogue then
See
Talking to people is necessary for things to improve :p
A hint for restarting: talk to everyone (if they have a ! on their head) between each run
some conversations unlock stuff
(as well as doing plot)
cobalt prairie
@brisk trail Most things with the mirror you will want to discuss with nyx
pearl sparrow
I'm in Elysium and I was doing things on my phone and kept the game paused.
Do you know when you pause the game and there's that filter on the music??
Well, at some point, the music IS LITERALLY the Doom main theme.
And when I say Doom, I mean the original
cobalt prairie
You will know who nyx is if you dont skip the dialogue XD
wind wedge
Yeah, there's a bit of E1M1 in the music
calm bear
We should have a vc here lol
static wadi
vc?
calm bear
Voice chat room in this discord lol
narrow hemlock
if you want vc make your own fan server haha it would be impossible to moderate here so they don't have it
queen wharf
Can you get Flame Wheel Release in the room before ||Elysium?||
opaque nexus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/761340633549897738/unknown.png the hardest choice for guan yu
dusky wagon
quick spin no question
dusky wagon
You need it to heal so you'll use it very, very often and it enables you to dodge damage better and deal more
opaque nexus
oh my god I forgot how broken this is
I have the one that makes the spin stay out longer
dusky wagon
I did all my runs with Guan Yu. Best weapon in the game by far
I just did a run with the hidden shield aspect and I totally forgot that you can't heal yourself lol
static wadi
heat is spoiler here(
opaque nexus
it's a common misconception that guan yu is "hammer reliant"
narrow loom
Zagreus. I normally put zeus on special, athena or poseiden on dash and ares, athena, or art on attack
static wadi
well
i better use something for Q to proc status only
like ares dem or dio
and add some great attack boons and hammer upgrade
throw Q
narrow loom
What's Q? Special? I play on switch
static wadi
and spam attack and dash attack
yes
i play chaos shield max lvl and it's my strongest weapon yet
my fav is Aphro attack and Dio special
and their duo
narrow loom
So status on throw, something that boosts damage on attack, and then athena dash?
static wadi
and max this dio as strong as i can
yup
but if u can have max lvl chaos
take it and play with special
narrow loom
I can't right now. I have 3 bonus shields. How many more upgrades are there?
flat vapor
there's 5 levels in all for aspects
narrow loom
I could probably do all weapons at 1 ||heat|| to get 5 titan blood.
But that's only getting me 1 more level, right?
static wadi
@narrow loom heat is spoiler this chanel
and each run u get 2 bloods
for first and last boss
narrow loom
And I know, but I've only cleared with 2 weapons so far
I was just thinking I could farm the ||meg blood||
static wadi
well
u can try both ways
sticking with 1 weapon
or switching them way u want or with dark thirst
cobalt prairie
the trinkets are personal preference. I personally start with a god i want in my run then swap to something else
But many people like acorn or butterfly
static wadi
@narrow loom usually i start run and check 1st god and boons
if i like it i continue with coins
upper kernel
i've been going with a god initially because it makes the run start off with a more clear boon pathway, like if you get a good special related boon, i start getting lots of things that synergise with that
static wadi
if i dont i surrender and take god trinket i want
cobalt prairie
Yeah i usually take god first area then swap on the way to second for something else since its just there to seed the run
narrow loom
Alright cool. Didn't think about restarting. Does it kill your streak? Not that I have one lol
upper kernel
is there any crucial website resources you guys use for hades? like in deadcells i refer to the biome map on the deadcells wiki pretty often
coral verge
https://hades.gamepedia.com/Hades_Wiki and the Steam Hades guide section
static wadi
@narrow loom no it doesnt
upper kernel
@narrow loom no it doesnt
@static wadi oh cool that's good to know, didnt realise
coral verge
Boons and Infernal Arms page I guess
narrow loom
@static wadi thank you. So if I have aphro on attack, dem on special, and athena on dash, is there anything else I should look for god wise for my build?
This is zag shield
narrow loom
No specific gods then?
narrow loom
Guess I'm just a scrub lol
static wadi
u can take ares or dio instead
and Aphro has greates dmg in the game
u can also take athena for attack too
for much safety
but u want exposed for status
narrow loom
Okay cool. So maybe I pick up dip if I see it just to try and get the duo?
static wadi
dip?
static wadi
i do not see why do u need duo if aphro is ur source of dmg
hard pawn
It’s good, but specifically not for shield
hard pawn
Chaos shield kinda overrated
narrow loom
1 more thing. If I skip a hammer, will it usually show up again? I have a double boon room
static wadi
mobility and invincibilty at once
hard pawn
yes the hammer will show up again
static wadi
usually u have 2 hammers
narrow loom
Cool cool
spark girder
I never played a game like this before but God i love it
hard pawn
if you have only picked up one hammer before Styx, the second always appears there