#h1-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 875

summer geyser Sep 30, 2020, 7:27 PM

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That one is really good

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I love it

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Zeus Special is delightfully meme

hard jasper Sep 30, 2020, 7:28 PM

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For Matrim, I personally like Spec four the most, although my hand always regrets it

tulip ocean Sep 30, 2020, 7:29 PM

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4 looks dangerous

old viper Sep 30, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I'm so in love with this hame

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Game

tulip ocean Sep 30, 2020, 7:30 PM

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yeah, this game is great. I've completely killed my switch batter 4 times in 3 days

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and that's hard for me to do as I have 2 kids and school, so don't have a ton of free time

ember haven Sep 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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guys if i change pc my save is lost?

stark plinth Sep 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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should be on steam cloud like everything else

ember haven Sep 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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ok thx mate

verbal violet Sep 30, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Say, if I have 3 things from say Aphrodite and meet her again, will I only get level up options from aphro? Should I sell what is terrible? What effect does it have on other gods?
I barely ever sell boons I have and I'm not sure if I should.

stark plinth Sep 30, 2020, 7:42 PM

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level up options? No, you only get that from Poms

tulip ocean Sep 30, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I have only ever sold once, and it was last run so I could buy a ||blood from last shop||

dusky wagon Sep 30, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Man they do it again in EM4 and just do ||another phase||. Super super lame. Annoying³.

floral shore Sep 30, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Uh, there's a lot more changes to the fight than that.

dusky wagon Sep 30, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Those aren't annoying. I have certain resources that I have to play around for the length of the fight (like god gauge and DD and taking risks) and just pulling that STUFF again is not more difficult, but just super annoying.

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My poor winstreak.

novel spindle Sep 30, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Im bout to try em4, hope it goes well

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 8:13 PM

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what's best ||fist aspect||?
@tulip ocean I'm having great time using the ||second aspect||

tulip ocean Sep 30, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Second would depend heavily on boons I think

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 8:15 PM

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True that

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Why my game only choose the same weapon for boost

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And I don't unlock any 4th aspect

strong knoll Sep 30, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Heyo, does Hades support analog movement?

opaque nexus Sep 30, 2020, 8:34 PM

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ok so uhh im gonna rank all the hades weapons based on fashion because why not

strong knoll Sep 30, 2020, 8:34 PM

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As in, does movement support more than 8 directions?

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Hmm

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I guess yes?

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Yes

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Yes?

opaque nexus Sep 30, 2020, 8:39 PM

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https://tiermaker.com/create/hades-weapons-and-aspects-82372 im also gonna plug this since I made it

TierMaker

Create a Hades Weapons & Aspects (1.0 Update) Tier List

All weapons and aspects from the game Hades

smoky epoch Sep 30, 2020, 8:45 PM

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can you opt into certain gods?

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like, I want Athena every run so I have at least one deflect 😛

quiet gull Sep 30, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Give her nectar

smoky epoch Sep 30, 2020, 8:46 PM

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nice, I will

dusky wagon Sep 30, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Yeah, there is an keepsake for almost every god you get when you gift them.

smoky epoch Sep 30, 2020, 8:47 PM

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the keepsake just make their boons better rarity I thought?

quiet gull Sep 30, 2020, 8:47 PM

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No

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When you put one on, it guarantees the next god boon is of that god

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Save for Hermes' and Chaos' keepsakes

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It -also- boosts rare chance

smoky epoch Sep 30, 2020, 8:48 PM

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oh nice ty

ruby urchin Sep 30, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Is uh hades crashing a common thing?

quiet gull Sep 30, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I've heard of it, but haven't had it happen to me

ruby urchin Sep 30, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I've crashed about 10 times now but I'm not sure if it's hardware or hades' issue

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I love ||Crystal Beam|| against Hydra

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I’m on Switch, so I can’t comment on crashing

ember haven Sep 30, 2020, 8:50 PM

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it never crashes on my pc

ruby urchin Sep 30, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Yee usually when it starts crashing a lot I just restart the PC and it works fine

calm bone Sep 30, 2020, 8:57 PM

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the Cyrstal beam honestly feels OP to me, especially if you build everything around it, so I just stopped using it, its just too good for almost everything.

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I felt like i made a huge mistske today when i got the upgrade for the beam to follow me

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Unless the enemy is moving too much/you aim it poorly

dusky wagon Sep 30, 2020, 9:00 PM

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That follow-beam is great when you can drop 3 crystals down

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I thought it just made it messy

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3 beams without it worked way better for me

dusky wagon Sep 30, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Once I saw that you can have it automatically return after 3 seconds instead of having 3 casts manually, I never looked back. Feels way better.

quiet gull Sep 30, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I felt like i made a huge mistske today when i got the upgrade for the beam to follow me
@brisk trail Protip: place the beams on one side of the room, move to the other side of the boss, profit

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:06 PM

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There’s a boon that does that, too (returning the casts)

steel night Sep 30, 2020, 9:07 PM

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did 2 runs today with the crystal beam

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didn't even spec much into it (lvl 2 and chill) but still felt pretty strong

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Crystal Beam + the one that makes it cause chill + the one that makes stacks of Chill explode for damage

hard pawn Sep 30, 2020, 9:14 PM

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crystal beam artemis duo makes it way better too

cyan warren Sep 30, 2020, 9:17 PM

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after playing this game for 2 days straight imo its a great game ruined by that 'roguelike' genre style or whatever u guys call it

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to the recycle bin where it belongs

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nerds

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bye

smoky wharf Sep 30, 2020, 9:18 PM

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idk how its ruined by the roguelike genre when the game was built around it and fits perfectly for the narrative the game is going for

quiet gull Sep 30, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I, too, hate it when a game is excellent and infinitely replayable

cyan warren Sep 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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idk how its ruined by the roguelike genre when the game was built around it and fits perfectly for the narrative the game is going for
@smoky wharf no checkpoints, play for 1 hour then start from the beginning, wtf is that

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I mean he's just trying to make people mad no need to respond

smoky wharf Sep 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Uh you restart from the beginning because each run makes you stronger

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so the next run it will be easier to get back to where you were

quiet gull Sep 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Is this grounds for calling a mod? Feels like it

cyan warren Sep 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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no need to call for a mod I'm leaving the server

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Hades is the least roguelike roguelike I know and you still slam it for that, wack

smoky wharf Sep 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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and seeing as there is only 4 overall areas it really isn't so bad

cyan warren Sep 30, 2020, 9:20 PM

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get a life nerds

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:20 PM

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You're on discord we're all nerds boyo

flat vapor Sep 30, 2020, 9:20 PM

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dusa

quaint wind Sep 30, 2020, 9:21 PM

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and nothing of value was lost

smoky wharf Sep 30, 2020, 9:21 PM

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yeah...

quaint wind Sep 30, 2020, 9:22 PM

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anyway who's everyone's favorite god?

flat vapor Sep 30, 2020, 9:22 PM

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zag ❤️

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Hypnos best boi

quaint wind Sep 30, 2020, 9:22 PM

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poseidon is my weird uncle and i love him

runic quail Sep 30, 2020, 9:23 PM

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He always wants to take me fishing

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I mean I love all of them in that way

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but my favorite is the one that can float in his own cozy blanket

quiet gull Sep 30, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Dionysius is what we should all aspire to be

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I strive to be that chill

quaint wind Sep 30, 2020, 9:23 PM

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dionysus is also very good

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chill as hell

flat vapor Sep 30, 2020, 9:24 PM

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wrong god

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dusa

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Guys, you’re all wrong about best boy

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:24 PM

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I feel like Dionysus is more of a weird uncle than Poseidon

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:24 PM

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bouldy

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:24 PM

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then again aren't they all tbh

runic quail Sep 30, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Bouldy is the best god

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bouldy

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Hey peeps. No spoilers but I got my first win! Woo. That felt so satisfying.

quaint wind Sep 30, 2020, 9:25 PM

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congrats!

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Did you stop and see the ||sunrise|| on the way to ||Persephone||?

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:26 PM

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||Of course||

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Rise?

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I think it’s one of the most artistic thing I’ve ever seen in video games

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:27 PM

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||20th attempt, Coronacht, no death defiance items used even!||

opaque bough Sep 30, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I nabbed a screenshot of it if anyone wants it as a PC background or similar

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I'm considering maybe trying for a ||punishmentless Coronacht|| speedrun thanks to that nice in gae timer there

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Also yeah I don't know what is a spoiler or isn't but I'ma play it safe

steel night Sep 30, 2020, 9:30 PM

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@brazen pewter congrats! 😄

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Thanks. I wish I could see my in game hours but because Switch it just says "First played 4 days ago"

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Same for me

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Just seeing my hours now

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Man this game is gonna be so fun to run even if I can already see that it might be a little chaotic

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:33 PM

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That's the whole point xD

coral verge Sep 30, 2020, 9:33 PM

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yeah not able to see your game hours seems like a huge oversight especially since ||the unlockable room|| allows you to view much more detailed info.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I mean usually you should see it in steam/switch profile

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:34 PM

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For switch I believe you need to wait 10 days before you see your hours

coral verge Sep 30, 2020, 9:34 PM

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You need 10 days before Switch hours show up

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:34 PM

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So it shouldn't be an issue
But if you start playing a game on switch it only shows you game time after about a week

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It'll prolly be added I assume

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I’m at 70 hours on Switch

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:36 PM

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I will say a neat addition would be ||splits for the in game time between areas||

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Y'know what I'm gonna go for a zoomin' run right now and see how badly I get torn apart

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Yoooo bout sane

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I’m at 70 hours on Switch

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Welcome to the club, exactly same for me.

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squirtheh

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Weird
All been non stop playing huh

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Pretty much.

obtuse copper Sep 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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its addicting

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I think I will slow it down a bit... then again - I said the same twice already.

obtuse copper Sep 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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i like experimenting so i like seeing what works more than succeding

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Like drufs
But not as expensive
Or harmful

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At least I hope so

obtuse copper Sep 30, 2020, 9:43 PM

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the wins are pleasant surprises

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 9:43 PM

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i like experimenting so i like seeing what works more than succeding

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I hope I don't burn out too fast

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:43 PM

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13 days x 6 hours a day ish

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 9:43 PM

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My goal is to get the ||rare materials from Charon shop|| at the end.

obtuse copper Sep 30, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Hades ye

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 9:44 PM

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squirtdevious

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Oh thanks game

So I can just do my own splits by ||capturing after the boss is defeated||

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I rather beat the run
But there's a point in just farming for shoo

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Shop

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I just find farming to not be fun

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Maybe I lf I desperately need blood for a weapon
Farming burned me out in warframe before

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I haven’t had a problem buying the diamond/blood for Charon most runs.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I usually take most shops
So and buy stuff at the final shop

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If I'd stop doing that ofc

wide gust Sep 30, 2020, 9:56 PM

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yeh I usually don't buy anything prior to final shop unless I some kind of coin bonus

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I buy boons for my build and hammers I f I'm unlucky and don't see any

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I tend to buy stuff, though I do try to balance it out with going for coins.

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It's not that hard.

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And if you have a bonus of it, especially from ||Chaos||, then very much so - it should be okay to buy quite some things.

wide gust Sep 30, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I wish torchlight felt as good to play as this game

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:58 PM

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He's really stingy with me
Never even saw his legendary

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Although I meet the reqs every single run

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Those need a boost probably.

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Cause requirements is one thing.

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But it's rarity is a factor as well.

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And... yeah, I know your pain.

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I wait for few myself, having everything.

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not that boon, common also

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shadedisgruntled <- me everytime that happened

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Mood

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What do I run the mirror upgrade for xD

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Fml increased chance

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Yeah.

random forum Sep 30, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Hi guys

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Hemlo

deft gull Sep 30, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Hey, has anybody else had the issue where the victory screen fails to show previous clear records? I just got one where it said I had 0 clears on the other weapons, and listed only 1 on the weapon I was using

random forum Sep 30, 2020, 10:02 PM

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How do I unlock the secret aspect of the sword?

smoky wharf Sep 30, 2020, 10:04 PM

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@random forum https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/521035166471159828/725092980829978655

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that'll take you to the answers in another channel

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Thanks

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This actually helps me as well.

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I didn't know that, but it seems my ||upgrading of Zagreus aspects|| was a good decision.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Those aspects don't count towards I think

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:07 PM

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It does not specyfie it has to be others... and I think they do.

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Cause otherwise, I would have only 3 in sword and still got the 4th.

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Same with ||Coronach||.

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Now I must ask this cause I’ve been loving a lot of the characters

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Who’s best?

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:09 PM

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||Cerberus||

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||Officialy the best boy.||

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:09 PM

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||Bouldy||

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 10:09 PM

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bouldy

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:09 PM

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|| I mean when you say it like that, he is a good boy ||

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I love almost all of them zagluv

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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almost

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Also by extent ||shady||

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Who is the black sheep?

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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There is no bad character

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Cerberus is goodest boy and Bouldy is best boy

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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You blackguard

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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That one dude with the boulder isn’t really my favorite

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Also || Thesus ||

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I hate his dumb face dusa

tawdry flower Sep 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I do love Eurydice

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Dusa still best girl, I mean cmon

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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||Sisyphus||, huh? Well, I do like him. But that's fair, everyone has their opinions and likes.

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Like when I say almost there’s nobody I

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Hate

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Besides that one boss lol

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I don't mean the dude with the boulder

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I mean the boulder

frigid nymph Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Why is there an emote for bouldy but not for the goodest of boys ?

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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shadeohboy

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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||Sysyphus|| is so nice

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I mean the boulder

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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That is the goodest

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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shadefear

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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thanthink

frigid nymph Sep 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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You can't pet bouldy , so not the goodest boy 😛

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Fair

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Hypnos still one of my favorites in design and attitude

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I wonder if Switch ver. gets any in-game achievements... but probably not.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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You can ||gift|| though

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And nobody listens to my problems better

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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|| They probably won’t get the achievement to pet the doggo 10 times ||

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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That's the biggest loss

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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WHICH I OWN THAT ACHIEVEMENT NOW

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Proudly

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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That is absolute blaphsemy

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How can you not do it everytime

visual portal Sep 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I forgot tooo

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Still... perhaps

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Some games on Switch do have those in-game, like Hollow Knight and Ori, so maybe.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I want I lifesize cerberus plushy

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I just like achievements, yes.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Also boulder plushy
That's literally a rock with eyes

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I want I lifesize cerberus plushy

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I want lifesized LIVING Cerberus

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squirtyay

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Imagine the pets

frigid nymph Sep 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

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You know Zag is one of the only few that can pet him and still be alive to tell it?

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Never pet the other heads

wild hearth Sep 30, 2020, 10:17 PM

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If it was MY Cerberus, then I belive I would also be one of them.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:17 PM

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That was their mistake

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Oof

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He THICC

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 10:23 PM

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ugh. I wasn't running any deflect, so of course I faced a bullet hell final boss fight.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:23 PM

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More like spear hell

queen wharf Sep 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Is it really bad if I want to trade one Nectar for a Titans Blood just so I can get the ||secret aspect of a weapon and clear that Prophecy?||

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I've been trading all mine for that

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go for it

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you can always get more

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Is it really bad if I want to trade one Nectar for a Titans Blood just so I can get the ||secret aspect of a weapon and clear that Prophecy?||
@queen wharf Not really. I've traded it a few times

wind wedge Sep 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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You should do that.

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I did something similar once, with a Prophecy that would give me a "profit" in terms of total resources.

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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also, I think you mean ambrosia. but the advice holds.

queen wharf Sep 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Is it? I just don't want to be bottlenecked, you know?

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I wouldn't trade all
But you can do it very sparingly

queen wharf Sep 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I did mean Ambrosia

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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you need like 1/5 as much ambrosia as titans blood to unlock everything

queen wharf Sep 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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@wind wedge I mean I'll get there eventually, but I just wanted to ask lol

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Thanks for the input, people, appreciate it!

brazen pewter Sep 30, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Well tried to speedrun and made it further than I thought I would
||Death at 23:39.62 (Hades 2)||

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But to be fair the assistance in that run, atleast from what I could tell, was kinda really bad.

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 10:40 PM

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spoiler tag that

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I love the spear

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especially with the x3 thing

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OP af

verbal violet Sep 30, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Is there a benefit to leveling all the keepsakes, or should I just go with what I like?

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 10:43 PM

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I don't think so.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Keepsakes power escalates with levels

flat vapor Sep 30, 2020, 10:44 PM

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completion

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:44 PM

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But the others just ^

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 10:45 PM

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yea

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my tip is to max out the god boon ones

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also what should i do next

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a zeus and drunk uncle build

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artemis and ares cast

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or zeus and wave man

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Also max the ones you like obvs

brisk trail Sep 30, 2020, 10:46 PM

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^

fading edge Sep 30, 2020, 11:33 PM

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went back to my god mode save after around 10 hours of my new save and beat the game at almost full health without burning any dds, kinda nice to have that confirmation that my skills are actually better even if i keep getting stuck at lernie on my normal save

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gud game :)

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Nice m8 friendly

sonic urchin Sep 30, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Is there a trick to getting legendary fish? I've nearly completed the codex for everything and haven't gotten a single leggo fish

flat vapor Sep 30, 2020, 11:46 PM

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are you getting perfect catches?

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need to hit a catch within .32 secs to have a chance at a legendary fish

sonic urchin Sep 30, 2020, 11:47 PM

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oic, didn't know there were different successful catches

verbal violet Sep 30, 2020, 11:47 PM

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hey my first victory over redacted. Athena's aid + Cursed slash did the trick.

quaint hatch Sep 30, 2020, 11:49 PM

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It says perfect catch when you achieve it

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If that's not a victory I don't know what is

ocean valley Oct 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Does anyone know if Hades on Switch counts time spent in menus (like when you press + and have the option to give up) as part of your clear time? I have some hand and wrist issues so I frequently take long breaks between stages so I pause
idk if time spent on the switch main menu is counted in clear time also

mortal dawn Oct 1, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Is it possible to buy a song where Eurydice is singing in the great hall?

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Or are they all Orpheus?

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 12:08 AM

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menu pauses the timer on pc, so i would think it does the same on switch

ocean valley Oct 1, 2020, 12:09 AM

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menu pauses the timer on pc, so i would think it does the same on switch
@flat vapor Cool thanks!

tiny shore Oct 1, 2020, 12:19 AM

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hey i have a hades controller question

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is there any way to change the buttom mapping for menus and such

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it only seems to apply for combat

quaint hatch Oct 1, 2020, 12:25 AM

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What would you like to change for menus?

tiny shore Oct 1, 2020, 12:25 AM

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generally i use circle to confirm and x to decline in games

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like how it is on nintendo consoles

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or B to confirm and A to decline, from an xbox perspective

quaint hatch Oct 1, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Hmm I don't think that can be remapped I'm controls itself
Technically you can use external software to remap your buttons on your controller

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Then they will be swapped permanently

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You can find remapping software just by googling

tiny shore Oct 1, 2020, 12:30 AM

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i had some but steam controller support was overriding it

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i have since snuffed steam support

quaint hatch Oct 1, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Then I'm out of ideas
You might be able to fiddle around in hades files but I don't know Jack about that

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You could ask in the hades modding discord

coral verge Oct 1, 2020, 12:32 AM

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can always use autohotkey and swap the buttons

tulip ocean Oct 1, 2020, 12:35 AM

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about to try out ||Chiron|| bow. I think I have enough ||blood ||to put 2 points into it

coral verge Oct 1, 2020, 12:37 AM

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it's very good against single targets but might have some issues against mobs

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Dang, I don't know what I should invest my blood in first. any suggestions?

mortal dawn Oct 1, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Chiron bow

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It's amazing

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I'm at 13 heat right now and I'm still breezing through everything

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Oh man, reduces the special from 9 to 3?

indigo shard Oct 1, 2020, 12:47 AM

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but the real question is

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do i buy the 180 gram vinyls cause fidelity is probably better or the 150 gram cause the color is cooler

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 12:47 AM

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guys

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how can i unlock

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the last sembiant

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:49 AM

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i bought the special edition but here's a hot take- fidelity is the exact same between heavy vinyl or not and there is literally no difference except durability if you do a good job on color pressings

indigo shard Oct 1, 2020, 12:49 AM

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durability matters too though

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:49 AM

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heavy weight vinyl is absolutely a meme

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not when it comes to the grooves

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the vinyl is less prone to cracks

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 12:49 AM

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the last what again?

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:49 AM

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but the durability of the grooves is basically the same

indigo shard Oct 1, 2020, 12:50 AM

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yeah i meant warping lol

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:50 AM

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tons of incredible music was pressed onto garbage flat as a credit card vinyl and still sounds perfect 50 years later

queen wharf Oct 1, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Can you get Flame Wheels Release from the Well of Charon in the room before ||Elysium||

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:51 AM

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now yeah heavy weight vinyl is nice and generally should last longer, won't get destroyed or warp as easily

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but nah it sounds the same

coral verge Oct 1, 2020, 12:52 AM

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it's only purchasable at Elysium

indigo shard Oct 1, 2020, 12:52 AM

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yeah, other than fidelity, which i guess i was mistaken on, i meant warping

queen wharf Oct 1, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Like actually inside?

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:52 AM

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if you treat your vinyl records with any level of respect then heavy weight will never matter

indigo shard Oct 1, 2020, 12:52 AM

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mine are in milk crates

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does that count

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should probably get a couple more

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:52 AM

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i mean yeah if they have a designated spot that's fine

indigo shard Oct 1, 2020, 12:52 AM

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starting to run out of room again lol

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:53 AM

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as long as you don't leave them in the sun or stack them you're in the top 5% of vinyl record owners

indigo shard Oct 1, 2020, 12:53 AM

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jesus

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sun?

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wtf?

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:54 AM

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yeah sometimes when people move and it gets left in their car for a few hours

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or like

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near a window with sun beating in all day

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etc, it's pretty hard to mess up a vinyl record

drowsy wadi Oct 1, 2020, 12:55 AM

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yo so like what if they announce zagreus for smash

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is that too far fetched

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:56 AM

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not a chance

teal badger Oct 1, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Does anybody know how I can blow up the underworld

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 12:57 AM

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we used to make flower pots from old vinyl records.. you make a hole in a center of big enough metal cap, put some thick wire inside, and put record above.. and then hang above gas stove, or use hairdryer.. unless it gets soft and then you can shape it carefully..

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idk if i'm able now to move to a country where death penalty is allowed after that

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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honestly some popular records aren't worth anything, especially if they sustained any amount of damage so that practice is largely fine. you're upcycling at that point!

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:00 AM

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well, they were pretty cheap anyways.. mostly rerecorded from tapes anyway

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after most people were able to get tape recorders, noone really cared about vinyl of that kind

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especially when the quality was higher somehow

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 1:03 AM

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yeah a perfect tape should have as good a fidelity as a vinyl record, depending on if you use metal or not

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also reel-to-reel leaves every other medium in the dust

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so like tape is king, but records are a lot easier to print and sell

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also records are way more fun

pastel flume Oct 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Hades does have save compatability between Epic store and steam yeah?

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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yep

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saves your file to wherever your computer's supergiant root file is

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not in the steam or epic store file

round wraith Oct 1, 2020, 1:06 AM

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||So I've read that I have to invest 5 blood in aspects to unlock the hidden aspect||
||how does that have to be invested?||
||5 blood in any one aspect||
||or 5 blood total across all aspects of that weapon?||

pastel flume Oct 1, 2020, 1:06 AM

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thank you

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All aspects of said weapon

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unless otherwise

round wraith Oct 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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including the cost to unlock aspects?

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having trouble getting ||chaos to talk about my shield||

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bought each of the other aspects and invested 3 in zag aspect

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so that should be 6 invested

coral verge Oct 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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it's just total, unlock is RNG if you already have the requirements

pastel flume Oct 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Use chaos shield when talking to him, i found that it worked easier

round wraith Oct 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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ya been doin that

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met him 3 times on one run

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also, the first level of time trial for the heat challenges is like, totally meaningless right? 9 minutes is way too much time

tulip ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I've heard that zag aspect doesn't count but I may be wrong

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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well, it stops you from taking some time, enjoying the view and stuff

teal badger Oct 1, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Why is this game so addictive? All I'm doing is fighting the same bosses and killing the same enemies and what feels like the same rooms and yet I can't stop playing

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:11 AM

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for somebody it may be pretty tight anyway.. don't know, done it only once for achievement with Hermes' plume, dashing ~~and screaming~~

ebon harbor Oct 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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This game is so effin' good. Supergiant you're a bunch of damn magicians.

candid bolt Oct 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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hahayes

teal badger Oct 1, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Somebody get zagreus a Powerade

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:13 AM

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good rogueli[k|t]e should be addictive, and they nailed it for this one

pastel flume Oct 1, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Why is this game so addictive? All I'm doing is fighting the same bosses and killing the same enemies and what feels like the same rooms and yet I can't stop playing
@teal badger Welcome to my world

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 1:15 AM

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can we please just start calling them "a rogue" or something because the roguelike/lite/rogue [space] like/roguelight is really starting to grate on me

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what publication do i email to make this change permanent

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:17 AM

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or

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:17 AM

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lol

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:17 AM

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we can pick second game from a genre and make a new name

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like soulsborne or metroidvania

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Roguades, for randomly-/procedurally-generated games with "permadeath".

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:22 AM

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in my country people just call them "rogalik".. which also means "croissant"

round wraith Oct 1, 2020, 1:23 AM

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@tulip ocean where did you hear zag aspects don't count?

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 1:23 AM

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hadeslike

round wraith Oct 1, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I feel like these weird RNG things should have some sorta official guide cuz it's impossible to know what's working

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 1:23 AM

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wait, in "The Painful Way", there's a synth lead drone in the background.. but like that sounds a whole lot like darren's voice in lament. is it him singing??

lucid stratus Oct 1, 2020, 1:24 AM

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well

nimble ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:24 AM

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maybe that's the thing only Darren knows

lucid stratus Oct 1, 2020, 1:24 AM

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i upgraded 5 zag aspect on spear

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never got the achilles talk

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spent 5 titan blood in other aspects

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and immediately got the achilles talk after that

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thats my experience with zag aspect not working

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it could be coincidence, i suppose

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 1:25 AM

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i wonder if it's a synth lead sampled from his voice, maybe he intentionally made ||orpheus sound like a synth lead||?

lucid stratus Oct 1, 2020, 1:25 AM

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just seems unlikely

candid bolt Oct 1, 2020, 1:25 AM

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i only upgraded zagreus aspect for sword and got the hidden aspect, so it might be different depending on the weapon

lucid stratus Oct 1, 2020, 1:25 AM

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yeah

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that is a possibility

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i havent messed with that yet

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i think actually that is the case

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because i only had 5 titan blood invested in sword and 1 was in zag aspect

coral verge Oct 1, 2020, 1:26 AM

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uh, spear unlock is ||5 unlocked aspects, not 5 blood spent||

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it's just queued conversations

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:30 AM

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how can i unlock the last aspect

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of the sword?

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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did you check the pins in #h1-story-discussion

tulip ocean Oct 1, 2020, 1:38 AM

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@round wraith I heard it in here that Zag aspects don't count, but I didn't really pay much attention to it at the time so I'm not sure how far back it is

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I feel like the aim assist could use a little bit of improvement. it's so important for consoles and I feel like some weapons like the rail end up being not as good as they should be because of the inconsistency with aiming.

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 1:47 AM

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#hades-feedback is the place for that @brisk trail be sure to read the pinned messages in the channel first

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:48 AM

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"you do not have permission to send messages in this channel"

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I feel like it over compensated and want to turn it down, personally.

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:51 AM

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yeah, that's sort of what I'm thinking. it'll swing to a random pillar or something. I'm finding it really hard to target ||the hellfire ball|| for example

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 1:51 AM

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did you read the pinned messages in the channel?

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@brisk trail

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I did, though I'm not in early access? is the intent for people to treat all feedback as early access feedback?

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 1:52 AM

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I feel like the early access rank part should be removed now

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Or updated to be something like Owning the game

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 1:52 AM

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To be able to post, first visit #bot-commands and type ?rank Early Access
this is the most important line there

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:53 AM

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yes. did you see my question?

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 1:53 AM

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that's more a question for the devs, I just mod the discord

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:54 AM

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ok. I'm just saying that, from a discord perspective, it's a bit confusing to have people sign up for the "early access" role if they aren't in early access. so people like myself may get confused.

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 1:55 AM

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It’s not something a mod would have access to. It’s whoever created the discord or has admin rights to it

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 1:55 AM

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ok. I guess that varies from server to server. for example, on a couple servers I've modded, I had permissions to edit channels in that way.

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anyway, I will assign myself the role and go post the feedback

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I'm still getting the message that I don't have permission to post in the channel

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 1:57 AM

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hey guys what's the in game screenshot key on pc?

pastel flume Oct 1, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Steam is f12 or Print screen button

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 1:57 AM

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prtscr didn't work

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i'll try f12

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F12 worked cheers

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doesn't save in the save folder tho

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Print screen puts the image of the screen into your copy

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 1:58 AM

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only save in the steam folder

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Then you paste it into Paint or something to save it

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 1:58 AM

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I thought since the save folder had a screenshots folder

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the game would have a key bound for taking screenshots

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I'm still getting the message that I don't have permission to post in the channel
@brisk trail @granite ether

zealous timber Oct 1, 2020, 2:03 AM

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@brisk trail sorry for the confusion, I have briefly locked the channel

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 2:03 AM

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ah, ok. thanks for clearing that up!

zealous timber Oct 1, 2020, 2:03 AM

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It will be unlocked a bit later today

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 2:03 AM

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🙏

distant totem Oct 1, 2020, 2:04 AM

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chaos pls just give me my ||beowulf aspect|| already shadedisgruntled

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he's not even saying important story stuff

sudden dome Oct 1, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Best.. Game.. EVER!

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 2:09 AM

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|| Lernie Vanquished || omg that's amazing

hollow igloo Oct 1, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Did something change about rules for posting in Feedback?

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Locked while it's being tinkered upon.

hollow igloo Oct 1, 2020, 2:14 AM

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aha, thanks

tulip ocean Oct 1, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Yeah, I got a kick out of ||Lernie||

candid bolt Oct 1, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Does anyone know if dodge chance is multiplicative?

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 2:24 AM

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it's effectively multiplicative yes

candid bolt Oct 1, 2020, 2:25 AM

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So diminishing returns the more boosts you have?

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 2:25 AM

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checks each dodge chance individually from what I remember

candid bolt Oct 1, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Ah, ok

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 2:25 AM

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so effectively multiplicative

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 2:33 AM

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so I beat EM3 Theseus, then on the next run I meet Poisedon

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but he doesnt mention the Propecy

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is it also random?

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 2:34 AM

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edit: wait, no, I'm a derp.

crude hazel Oct 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Dialogue is random.

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So it might be a while till he mentions it.

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Might be quite a while.

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Anyone have max out eris aspect?

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What’s the bonus damage on a max level eris?

mild thistle Oct 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Yeah, it might take a little bit before he mentions it. He mentioned it immediately for me, but, ye.

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Wiki says 60% but I have 60% already on level 4

mild thistle Oct 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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75%

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Might be outdated

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Yep wiki is outdated then

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Did that get buffed or what

teal badger Oct 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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How do I aquire ||Gilgamesh fists?||

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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^ same question

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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@teal badger check pinned

mild thistle Oct 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Yeah, got buffed in 1.0

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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@sand stump check pinned

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In #h1-story-discussion

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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ran like 20 runs after 1.0

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oh ok

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thanks

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i m not very good with fist, the range seem too close for comfort

teal badger Oct 1, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Getting him to spawn and comment about it is going to be hard.

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Ugh, I'm drained

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:42 AM

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No not really

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Don’t play the game with the purpose of aquiring the new aspect in mind

mild thistle Oct 1, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Eh, I wouldn't force it. It'll happen eventually regardless, so just do bounties and such

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Play the game to play the game

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And it’ll come with time and good rng

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I wonder if they intended the bow to primary be used as a point blank melee weapon

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the bow is more of a melee weapon than even the fist

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Chiron is the way to go

mild thistle Oct 1, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I heard Explosive shot+triple shot are real good point blank, but I haven't gotten the chance to try it yet

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Never been a huge bow guy.

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I mostly use....Hera.

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Makes the special that’s useless at range on a range weapon, actually usable at range

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🤷

mild thistle Oct 1, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Speaking of ranged weapons though I've been having a ton of fun with Hestia aspect lately

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Dunno why I wasn't enjoying it earlier, but I guess things just clicked

fair dove Oct 1, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Hestia sounds amazing

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One shot sniper

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But I like eris better for just the neat bonus damage

mild thistle Oct 1, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Yeah I've been using Eris for a long while, but the damage has started (at least recently) to feel kinda lacking, unless I got Eris boost+Zeus Attack+something like Support fire.

crude hazel Oct 1, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I'll be honest.

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Once I fully leveled Hestia... I rarely go other rail variants.

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It's just so much stronger and more fun.

indigo nest Oct 1, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I dont use rail sadly

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I find it too unreliable

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Especially on Switch

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 2:51 AM

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bow and gun is much better on PC

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since you aim with the maus

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 2:55 AM

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yeah. that's essentially the essence of what I was trying to say about an hour ago. I think the aim assist should be tuned a bit better on console. too much of a gap right now between console and pc in terms of potential for ranged weapons.

distant totem Oct 1, 2020, 2:58 AM

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I mostly use Hestia but I'm pretty sure Eris is the stronger aspect

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higher damage ceiling and broken build potential at least

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Hestia does feel nice and consistent tho

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 2:59 AM

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no reload is probly the best Daedalus upgrade

crude hazel Oct 1, 2020, 2:59 AM

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With the way damage stacks, I don't think it's got a better broken build potential or damage ceiling.

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 2:59 AM

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you just hold left mouse non stop

crude hazel Oct 1, 2020, 2:59 AM

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What, Delta chamber?

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 3:00 AM

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delta chamber is good now

distant totem Oct 1, 2020, 3:00 AM

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speedrunners choose Eris over Hestia for all weapons speedruns for a reason anyway

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 3:01 AM

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ahh yes just got the passive HP regen duo. Victory is Guaranteed now for this 32 heat run

crude hazel Oct 1, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Unless you know the reason, I wouldn't put any stock in that.

distant totem Oct 1, 2020, 3:02 AM

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well it can only be because Eris clears faster

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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just run away while your HP regen 😛

distant totem Oct 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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and that category is unseeded so they're not mapping out perfect Eris builds either

crude hazel Oct 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Well, speedrunners aren't infallible. They could also be wrong.

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I haven't seen any comparitive numbers or anything.

distant totem Oct 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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yeah they're certainly not infallible

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it's just more likely that top speedrunners are right vs your hunch about Hestia actually being stronger, no offense

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since you haven't seen or crunched any numbers

crude hazel Oct 1, 2020, 3:05 AM

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🤷

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That's still not a convincing argument to me.

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 3:08 AM

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would be cool if there was a Extreame Measures lvl 4 and you could fight Cerberus

indigo nest Oct 1, 2020, 3:08 AM

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well....

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 3:08 AM

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dusa

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keep playing

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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hmmmm

distant totem Oct 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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thanthink

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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I think it's used more in speedruns (eris over hestia) due to the +% damage being universal over the first shot of a round being empowered so there's more opportunity to take advantage of increase in damage, especially when you pair it with something like Hydraulic Might

dusk mantle Oct 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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There is a Hades update on steam. Any idea what it's about?

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I don't see any new posts in Patch notes channel

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29 MB

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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most probably tech/bug fixes

distant totem Oct 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Yeah there haven't been patch notes for any of the little updates since v1.0 as far as I know

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I know the last update made xbox icons show up for some dualshock players tho

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So that might be one of the fixes

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 3:22 AM

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For rail, i prefer the rocket the most

dusk mantle Oct 1, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Okay, thanks

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@sand stump i thought i was in the Quake channel 😛

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 3:29 AM

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that run managed to actually be my final run before I saw the credits

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|| I love how you get to finally ride Charon's boat down the river||

sweet cove Oct 1, 2020, 3:34 AM

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what does theme change?

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from the house contractor

dusk mantle Oct 1, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Steam achievement "Have at least one rank in each Mirror of Night Talent" -- I suppose this means both the Green and Red talents?

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Cuz it doesnt seem to unlock and I have all the red ones unlocked plus a couple of green ones

narrow hemlock Oct 1, 2020, 3:35 AM

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yes, you need them all

dusk mantle Oct 1, 2020, 3:36 AM

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okay, thanks!

narrow hemlock Oct 1, 2020, 3:36 AM

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you dont need to max everything, just have something invested in each one

dusk mantle Oct 1, 2020, 3:36 AM

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oh does Epic Store doesn't have achievements right? I'm wondering if I should have bought it in EGS (which gives the devs a bigger chunk?)

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I didnt know it was in EGS until after I bought it on Steam

sweet cove Oct 1, 2020, 3:37 AM

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EGS doesn't have achievements, no

dusk mantle Oct 1, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Aw sad, I kinda like achievements for some games

sweet cove Oct 1, 2020, 3:37 AM

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why I prefer steam, in general

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if I want to support devs I buy DLC, or gift additional copies

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does anyone know what theme changes from the house contractor? the boon offering page looks the same, the menus look the same

crimson canopy Oct 1, 2020, 3:44 AM

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So can you not use your ||summon|| during the last boss ||2nd phase||? I never tried until just now...seems like a strange limitation

also did something change w the feedback channel? Can't post there anymore though I guess with hades being fully released it's not as useful anymore

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 3:45 AM

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EGS does have achievements it's just on a game by game basis

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Shift + F3 in game for hades should bring em up

past hazel Oct 1, 2020, 3:46 AM

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little silly, sorry if this is explained elsewhere
does doing a Heat 10 run make you ineligible for unclaimed rewards from lower Heat ratings?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Nope

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 3:47 AM

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You'll get the lowest unclaimed heat bounties

sweet cove Oct 1, 2020, 3:47 AM

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@dusk mantle I was mistaken about achievements, see above

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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You cant use ||summon|| against him

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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You can use a few

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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is there any post credits story?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Yes

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Oh he

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There will be an ||upgrade|| for that, right?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Nope

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You don't need to upgrade them to use them against final boss

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Only ||Bouldy and Skelly|| can be used against him iirc

sweet cove Oct 1, 2020, 3:50 AM

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how to do spoiler tags?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Put || before and after the text you wish to spoiler

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 3:50 AM

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|| around text

sweet cove Oct 1, 2020, 3:50 AM

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thank you

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:50 AM

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||like so||

sweet cove Oct 1, 2020, 3:50 AM

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do you know what 'theme' from the house contractor actually changes?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:50 AM

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It changes the in-game UI

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Haven't tried it myself but I'm assuming it's the UI

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 3:51 AM

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it changes the boon menu and win screen

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:51 AM

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That means the victory screen and boon menu

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 3:51 AM

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At the begining, or required some story?

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Just finished the Hades documentary and the part where Amir was watching himself on the Nintendo direct was so damn funny

sweet cove Oct 1, 2020, 3:51 AM

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boon select from pressing B to view boons?

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not the boon offering right?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:51 AM

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At the begining, or required some story?
What context?

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not the boon offering right?
no

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 3:51 AM

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||summon against Hades||

crimson canopy Oct 1, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Oh thanks guys, I usually forget to use my ||summons|| against the final boss and the only ones I tried were the two that work apparently lol - so it's not a ||phase|| thing then?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:52 AM

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I mean you just need the specific summon, so some story is nessecary

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Yup, only those two work in his fight

dusk mantle Oct 1, 2020, 3:52 AM

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@granite ether @sweet cove oh thanks !

smoky epoch Oct 1, 2020, 3:53 AM

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what does Summon button do?

crimson canopy Oct 1, 2020, 3:53 AM

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that's actually great attention to detail when I think about it, hell yeah super giant

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Also do becoming ||warden|| mean anything?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:56 AM

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It's cosmetic

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 3:57 AM

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For which part?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:57 AM

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what does Summon button do?
@smoky epoch https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/264/842/220.png

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 3:58 AM

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after you beat the game ||Hades says even Zeus would not be able to stop what would oocur if they found out about Persphone||

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so what's he mean by that?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 3:59 AM

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I think he is referring to ||Demeter's wrath||

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 4:00 AM

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so basically everyone is afraid of ||demeter|| ehhh

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 4:01 AM

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i interpreted it more broadly as ||the potential war between olympus and the underworld||

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I'd think so yes

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Yeah that too

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 4:01 AM

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which would be headed by ||demeter, yes, but that's the bigger picture at play i think||

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 4:02 AM

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A sequel with her as the final boss would be neat

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Ye, like Zag head to the mountain

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Might wanna move to #h1-story-discussion guys 😅

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:05 AM

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btw

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I still don't have the gun's fourth aspect

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what could I be doing wrong?

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I have all the conditions fulfilled :x

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:06 AM

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If you've met all conditions and are just waiting for the text, then its just pure rng

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:15 AM

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I don't seem to be getting the right triggers to continue || the sisyphus quest || . any ideas? I've got the prophecy entry, but the rest isn't happening.

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:15 AM

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I randomly get stuck on certain questlines too

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:17 AM

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I'll ask in tech support

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Same with me

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I didnt trigger sisyphus after almost 100 run

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Bought switch version just to see it on handheld while waiting for cross saves

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ended up just doing it all again and getting farther than I ever did on the pc version lmaaaaooo

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:23 AM

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@smoky epoch https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/264/842/220.png
@fading gazelle I read that in mickey mouses' voice. Also Aphrodite is best girl.

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:23 AM

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You misspelled Dusa

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:24 AM

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You misspelled Dusa
@tawdry flower That's an odd way to spell Meghara

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 4:25 AM

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when you only have 5 hp and Thanatos comes to save you in the next chamber

drowsy arch Oct 1, 2020, 4:26 AM

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i was the heirlooms had a tracker to see the current buff (thana's butterfly and herm's feather)

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Also, it would be really cool if the crowd in the 3ed area would slowly change depending on how many times you win (or lose) to the duo

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Meg is just a yandere

drowsy arch Oct 1, 2020, 4:27 AM

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yeah

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Dusa cares about you for the sake of caring about you.

drowsy arch Oct 1, 2020, 4:27 AM

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it's not like she wants to kill you or anything

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b-baka

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:28 AM

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idk if it's jsut me but I prefer girls that have a whole body u know

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I mean having just a head

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isn't really appealing to me u know

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:29 AM

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So. Question: when Hades’ portrait shows up at the start of the run with a line of dialogue and a single word on the screen

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Does that MEAN something for that run?

rotund sphinx Oct 1, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Nothing afaik

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Idk

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:29 AM

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I didn’t mean for romancing Dusa. She’s just best girl.

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Well it's pretty obvious that Artemis is best girl

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banne dusa

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No argument there

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I can get behind Artemis choice

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||But then there's Than...||

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Or ||Persephone||

rotund sphinx Oct 1, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Tough choice for me i'll say

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:32 AM

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I will always love her in every medium. Like Lore Olympus

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Nyx is the most attractive. Than is too elusive and needlessly loathing.

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For me.

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Than is a Tsun

rotund sphinx Oct 1, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Than is just a tsun

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Yep

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:32 AM

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lol you guys had the same idea

rotund sphinx Oct 1, 2020, 4:33 AM

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He is so tsun

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:33 AM

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thanthink

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I don't know. With most of the characters I feel Super Giant gave their own cool spin on the mythos and then Than is just.. anime reaper

rotund sphinx Oct 1, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Kek

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:33 AM

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How about Eurydice?

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Treeson

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:33 AM

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ba dum tss

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Eurydice is already taken

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:34 AM

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How you spell his name again

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Eurydices partner

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Orpheus

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Orpheus

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Why does everyone assume best girl must mean romance?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Ikr?

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:35 AM

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His dry humor in refusing to play the songs was some of the funniest moments in that game

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Why does everyone assume best girl must mean romance?
@tawdry flower Why cant it?

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Also the latest post in the feedback channel has the abbreviation EM4. What does EM stand for?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Extreme Measures

rotund sphinx Oct 1, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Extreme measures

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:36 AM

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aaaa right right

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:36 AM

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It's a Heat pact

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Cause I’m just saying Eurydice and Dusa are wonderful. I can want Meg and Zag in a ship, but that doesn’t mean I can’t think the others are more wholesome characters

signal reef Oct 1, 2020, 4:37 AM

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hi

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I was very disappointed by the (charm spoilers) ||Hades charm just making you turn invisible.||

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:37 AM

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It's fun seeing all the supergiant staff online all the time on discord . And it's extra fun seeing them playing Hades

signal reef Oct 1, 2020, 4:38 AM

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just bought hades cant wait to try it out

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Greg is just playing Hades 24/7

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Well that phrase began from people talking about which anime girl in harems they liked the most.

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 4:38 AM

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hi hi Sonic :3

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:38 AM

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just bought hades cant wait to try it out
@signal reef It is gonna be a hell of a game lol

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I didnt expect the difficult curve

carmine ravine Oct 1, 2020, 4:38 AM

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its not rly a curve

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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There is a difficulty curve?

signal reef Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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imavoiding the test branch so my save data wont get screwed over

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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It was more of a line for me

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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I hate it when i Call and ||Hades turn invisible||

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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when you're 4 thousand hours into hades and you hear your first line of repeated dialogue:

Wow this game so lazy

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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it was alright until i hit the first boss

carmine ravine Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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im not a roguelite people and i got my first clear in like 4/5th try

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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the second zone was a pain because of lava

rotund sphinx Oct 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Lava is always a pain

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 4:40 AM

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im not a roguelite people and i got my first clear in like 4/5th try
@carmine ravine then you are a prodigy

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:40 AM

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u can overdash a little and get melted

signal reef Oct 1, 2020, 4:40 AM

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its done installing gonna play now

carmine ravine Oct 1, 2020, 4:40 AM

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smh

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:40 AM

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im not a roguelite people and i got my first clear in like 4/5th try
@carmine ravine Press x to doubt

rotund sphinx Oct 1, 2020, 4:40 AM

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All the best

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:40 AM

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nice meme

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:43 AM

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You should be able to prove that you won that early.

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:43 AM

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You should be able to prove that you won that early.
Are u saying pics or it didnt happen? lmao

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Basically

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:44 AM

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It’s one of the more difficult roguelikes (at least of the big ones) but the learning curve has far less walls than most

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I’d put it behind Dead Cells but agree with it being second or third in roguelites

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I love the voice acting in this game tho

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so good

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dont see people talking about it alot tho

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:46 AM

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It just left early access / had the official release two weeks ago

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And Nintendo had two hyped up Partner Showcases showing it off

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 4:47 AM

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im not a roguelite people and i got my first clear in like 4/5th try
That's impressive! I was able to get it down on my 6th try, but I have a lot of experience with rouguelites

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:47 AM

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I am on my 30+ try and a barely have any experience with these rogue likes

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:47 AM

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It's honestly #1 for me. I've played a LOT of dead cells. and I think this game is better. dead cells is phenomenal, and definitely has some things it does better than hades, but overall, I think Hades nails the "fun" a bit more, which is probably the most important dimension of all.

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Yeah definitely behind dead cells difficulty and curve wise, for overall content difficulty I’d put it between Gungeon and Isaac (isaacs endgame puts it above)

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:48 AM

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got stuck on the 3rd boss

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I wasn’t ranking it in terms of quality

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It was mentioned in terms of difficulty

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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You should be able to prove that you won that early.
@tawdry flower should be easy, agreed . a simple post in the victory boasting channel (which, btw, is a better place for such comments to begin with) showing the run details

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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quality ranking Hades is top for me, but will definitely fall if they end up not doing post-launch content

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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ah. yes, it's challenging, but not as hard as dead cells.

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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as that’s a large part of the genre

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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which is one of the reasons I like it more

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dead cells can be absolutely BRUTAL sometimes

raven lava Oct 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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got stuck on the 3rd boss
you'll get there

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I wouldn't hold your breathe for post launch content Coffee (at least imo anyways)

sand stump Oct 1, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I stuck on Meg for so long haha

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:50 AM

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3rd for difficulty, 1st for quality for now

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I'd agree with those rankinga

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I wouldn't hold your breathe for post launch content Coffee (at least imo anyways)
I’m not, but it’s disappointing anyway

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It’s a huge part of all the big names in roguelikes

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:51 AM

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and again, I think they are somewhat related. I think they nailed the difficulty. perfect balance of challenging, rewarding, fun....

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Supergiant isn't the type to go with the norm

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:51 AM

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ehh difficulty is REALLY subjective

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:51 AM

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of course

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:51 AM

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some people think it's too easy some people think it's too hard

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 4:51 AM

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they do their own thing even if it's not a norm for the genre

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Art style is pretty gorgeous tho

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:52 AM

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I’d say Dead Cells did a better job of doing difficulty ramping

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:52 AM

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I’m not expecting them do it; just hope they do

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:52 AM

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maybe a better way to put it is that I like the length of runs and how much you do in each run. I feel like dead cells runs are longer and more involved, making it more painful when you die. also, it can be a lot harder to recover from mistakes.

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Can't play Hades, library in use :<

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Hades you just gradually play around with one new bad thing

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Having 3,000,000%ed Isaac 2 i can’t confidently put any non Dead Cells game above it on difficulty purely cause of its endgame and secret content

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Have you gotten the true ending to Dead Cells?

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I didn’t enjoy dead cells too much

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So I didn’t play super far

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But I’ve still seen enough from others to put it at the top lol

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:56 AM

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What didn’t you like about it?

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 4:56 AM

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The timed aspect.

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:56 AM

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the time and the cell mechanic yeah

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plus lame af boss fights

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Oh, you mean the speed doors?

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:57 AM

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mainly cells and the bossfights

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Have you gotten the true ending to Dead Cells?
@tawdry flower I never knew games had fake endings

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hehe

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 4:57 AM

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There’s usually an ending, and then the final ending when you fully beat the game

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Oooh wait. the game had no DRM right? That means you can run it non-steam?

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:57 AM

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meanwhile; isaac 👀

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Oh hot damn you can. Love supergiant.

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 4:59 AM

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I've heard so many good things about Isaac, but I can't seem to get over the graphics and randomly excessive gore.

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Oooh wait. the game had no DRM right? That means you can run it non-steam?
@verbal violet Yea u might not want to give them any ideas 👀

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:00 AM

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the gore isn’t really “random”, it does have a purpose; but i can see why that would turn people away

bitter valve Oct 1, 2020, 5:00 AM

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He didn't say it was random tbf

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Can you tone it down in settings?

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:00 AM

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no

eager path Oct 1, 2020, 5:00 AM

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yea alot of people can stand nsfw stuff but gore can be nsfl

bitter valve Oct 1, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Randomly excessive is a pretty accurate description of the gore in isaac

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:01 AM

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I mean besides the level that’s literally a womb; the gore is just blood splats when stuff dies

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 5:01 AM

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@eager path I think they're proud of the non DRM thing (as they should)

flat vapor Oct 1, 2020, 5:01 AM

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( #video-games )

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Randomly excessive is a pretty accurate description of the gore in isaac
|| it’s explained that the excessive blood is another part of Isaac’s messed up imagination going haywire as he suffocates ||

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 5:02 AM

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As for difficulty: Life leech on sword for me has made the game tons easier and made me beat stuff I wouldn't have beat without.

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Life on hit + hold attack to fast attack is just a win on low to medium heat

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:03 AM

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What I liked about dead cells and what lead to 250+ hours in it is that it was a metroidvania in terms of movement but as a rogue-lite. But the story was kinda just you piecing it together from lore.

What I like about Hades is that it’s basically Bastion as a roguelite with Greek mythology which is so many bonus points. Plus the voice work and art direction

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 5:05 AM

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|| it’s explained that the excessive blood is another part of Isaac’s messed up imagination going haywire as he suffocates ||
@hard pawn that is very much the sort of disturbing stuff that puts me off of it.

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Hades is so well polished. I love all the dialog, art, characters...

it's definitely so much more than just the gameplay. and I think that's what elevates it from good game to "art"

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Same applies to games like Celeste

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 5:07 AM

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I couldn't get into celeste either!

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Whoops, said the f word.

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I wasn't a fan of the frame perfect button execution. I felt like I could see the right answer for each puzzle pretty easily, but then it was just getting the frame perfect button inputs.

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:09 AM

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They actually programmed a bunch of wiggle room for the “precise” stuff

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:09 AM

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that is very much the sort of disturbing stuff that puts me off of it.
Understandable

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:09 AM

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There’s a thread that Matt did that discussed the stuff you wouldn’t notice that makes the game easier and less precision-based

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 5:10 AM

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One issue with hades tho: If you are in the lower bit of the frame (or enemies are) the walls don't turn translucent to let you see what is going on.

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:10 AM

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But I could get if it’s too challenging not getting into it.

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 5:13 AM

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I always forget to use the fated persuasion and ||||companions|| every run

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:14 AM

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I mostly use Persuasion to make darkness doors something else, like nectar

calm bone Oct 1, 2020, 5:14 AM

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they're so scarce that I end up just not using them at all

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I use the one that changes the boon rewards

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:15 AM

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@calm bone ||Companions|| are spoilers in this channel

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 5:16 AM

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wait. Ares' aid is 1.2 second turn into a blade rift, max gauge bonus is 5sec duration. That's just 0.2 second bonus for max gauge. What a ripoff.

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Also how do you get them anyway?

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:16 AM

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ty ^_^

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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If you increase the rank of that boon, it lasts longer

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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No the level increases the damage.

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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And do you mean how do you get ||companions|| ?

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Corrected @verbal violet

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Yes.

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Raise your relationship with six specific characters

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:19 AM

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I mostly use Persuasion to make darkness doors something else, like nectar
that's Fated Authority @tawdry flower , Persuasion is the one that allows you to reroll offered boons, well items, pom level ups and pools of purging

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:20 AM

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I thought they both had Persuasion, not Fated in them.

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My bad

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:20 AM

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all good klinkCozy

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 5:42 AM

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what should i be using fated authority on

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will a boon reroll into another boon

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or is it just based on the blue/gold laurels

dense quest Oct 1, 2020, 5:43 AM

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i have required boons for a duo boon

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how do i get duo boon now

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:44 AM

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it's RNG

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 5:44 AM

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it's offered by either (?) god the next time you pick up their boon

dense quest Oct 1, 2020, 5:44 AM

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well it didnt get offered

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 5:44 AM

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well

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there's a chance it gets offered

dense quest Oct 1, 2020, 5:45 AM

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k

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:45 AM

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there’s two pools; laurel room and normal room; laurel is Pom, Gold, Hammer, and Boon; and normal is Darkness, Gems, Nectar (and I think Centaur Hearts?) @north pier

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A room from one pool can only reroll within that pool

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:45 AM

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mini-boss rooms are garenteed to roll into another god boon (sans Hermes and excluding ||Styx||)

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Yeah it can’t change the actual room so stuff that is always a boon like that will still be a boon

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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does each god count as "boon", so there's a 8 in 12 chance to get a boon? or is "random boon" just 1 in 3

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I have no clue what you’re asking ngl

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oh, no it’s just “boon” afaik

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Also you only get 4 gods per run

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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kk yeah you got me haha

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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*4 plus Hermes

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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wait you really only get 4?

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oh

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yeah hermes ok

tired mirage Oct 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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I've been trying to finish the slashed benefits prophecy but I can't find a burner, are they rare or something?

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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You only get 4 gods in a run? Really?

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Thats crazy.

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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exclusive to Tartarus @tired mirage

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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never knew that

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Suppose it makes synergies easier.

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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you can get 5 + Hermes but it ain't common

tired mirage Oct 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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oh true

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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yeah it would be nuts to get all of them, some of their synergies can get wild

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i always assumed there was a limit but didn't know it was "4"

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I could tell lots of dynamic spawns were happening to encourage certain synergies and stuff.

Couldn't you expand beyond the pool of 4 by using the god specific boons?

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er trinkets

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 5:49 AM

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@granite ether I think you mean Asphodel?

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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yeah I mean Asphodel

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ty

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I’m pretty sure the fifth can only spawn in ||an Erebus Gate|| as that’s the only place I’ve ever seen an extra god

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Np np squirtnya

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I don't do my runs for ||mom|| I do them for ||my shade fan||

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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@fading gazelle yes you can get up to 7 using a keepsake each floor besides the first (Theseus needs a buddy)

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Wrong @ oop

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Lmao I noticed

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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@buoyant merlin

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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It's alright

buoyant merlin Oct 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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saw there was an indie game that was announced recently called skelly and was sad to see that none of the comments said "CMON BOYO"

granite ether Oct 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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you should right this wrong by making that comment ^_^

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Trying to unlock the gun 4th aspect has made it my highest ||heat level||

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😐

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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I’m actually not sure how using a keepsake on the first floor works, but I’m fairly certain it just guarantees that god is one of the four

unkempt sleet Oct 1, 2020, 5:58 AM

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When you use a keepsake of a god it replaces one of the gods in the pool (unless they were already in)

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 5:59 AM

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it's just that, the next time it generates a god boon, it guarantees the first will be of that god

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so it can give a daedalus hammer first

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but the next time it generates a boon, it will be that god

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@brazen fjord Don't think so

unkempt sleet Oct 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Does anyone know if it'd be possible to edit my hell mode save to a normal save?
@brazen fjord I don't think there's a way in game to do that. Possibly by modding the files, but I'm not a modder

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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yeah and at that point it would be easier just to make a new save

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i've made a couple new saves before, it really doesn't take long to catch up

muted valley Oct 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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@brazen fjord why do you ask for heresy?

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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whats hell mode? pc only? i dont think there's different modes on the switch version

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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when you start a fresh save you can choose "hell mode" at the bottom

muted valley Oct 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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it should available for all devicees

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yea

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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oh ok

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i got no idea what i chose - probably not hell?

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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you'd know

dusk mantle Oct 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Going to try Nemesis sword once again. Hope I can get a clear this time

muted valley Oct 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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gl

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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hell mode = hard mode?

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:05 AM

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@brazen fjord i mean if you started in hell mode just keep chugging, you'll get better. but if you restart on normal it shouldn't take long at all to regain your progress

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@brazen fjord depending on how far in you are

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@tribal glade yeah it's hard mode, it forces certain ||pact of punishment modifiers that make the game permanently harder||

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:06 AM

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ahhh ok gotcha

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yeah i didnt choose that

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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ok!

narrow ruin Oct 1, 2020, 6:08 AM

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How do we max bonds with the gods?

muted valley Oct 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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keep giving nectar to the gods

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till ur able to give ||ambrosia|| to them

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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You’ll have to do a favor/quest for them to unlock the last steps, though

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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So for artemis, ||i reached the "locked heart" phase- what exactly makes the story progress? do i just take more of her boons or is that not enough?||

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Do I need to escape before heat does something in terms of boss drops, or just beat that boss with that weapon?

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Seems Artemis is just RNG dialogue with her

unkempt sleet Oct 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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You need to get 3 whole RNG dialogs from her about Callisto.

narrow ruin Oct 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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oh i see

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So i havent gotten all the RNGs yet

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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so you get that by taking her boons, yeah?

muted valley Oct 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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@verbal violet you need to escape

narrow ruin Oct 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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cause I already maxed hearts with her a long time ago

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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That’s how you talk to her, yes

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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@verbal violet yeah once you clear ||the heat requirement increases, then you need to clear again, etc etc||

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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||I thought you can get new rewards from bosses in a higher heat as long as you've beat them in a lower heat before? Since when do you need to have successfully escaped?||

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Hm I guess putting on heat on weapons that haven't cleared yet is a bit of a waste, but then again it's an easy heat.

unkempt sleet Oct 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Do I need to escape before heat does something in terms of boss drops, or just beat that boss with that weapon?
@verbal violet ||0 heat rewards are separate from heat rewards. You'll get new bounties if you use heat but the blood redacted drops at 0 heat will remain.
From 1 heat and above you need to defeat redacted before new rewards unlock.||

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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i dont know the heat system yet, but is it worth it to clear with that weapon and then run again with the heat?

unkempt sleet Oct 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Refer to my above message @tribal glade

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:17 AM

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It's one of the easiest and fastest ways to get blood/diamonds/ambrosia

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Each level of ||heat gives a new set of rewards from bosses. So you’ll be playing each weapons incrementally with heat||

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 6:18 AM

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It's the main way to earn those resources, really

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:18 AM

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I mean, yeah, but not the only way

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The other ways take forever, tho

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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what are the other ways?

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Diamond/Blood can be a single run up till Styx

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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converting lower resources up the chain?

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Trading also works

north pier Oct 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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I don't really see how heat is confusing, ||each time you clear the requirement increases: clear that, then the next tier is a higher heat with the same rewards||

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Trading and charon sells them in ||temple of styx||

unkempt sleet Oct 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Trade with the broker if you're made of gemstones

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Is charon the only NPC who doesn't need rng dialogue to get all hearts?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Surprisingly no

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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10 gems > 1 Key
5 keys > 1 nectar
10 nectar > 1 diamond
2 > diamond for ambrosia/blood

So they are between 500/1000 gem stones for those ingredients.

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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He has specific grunts @raven meteor

tawdry flower Oct 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I love the deals that give you those later ones for 1 diamond though

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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i mean, i honestly cant imagine what the specific dialogue would be... "hhrrrrnnnggg" vs "hhhhhnnnngggg"??

muted valley Oct 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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its when he goes into italics u know he's serious

brisk trail Oct 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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charon goes comic-sans mode when he's happy

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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he almost says ||thank you in his final dialogue, it’s the only time that I’ve seen that he says something that isnt a hrrnng||

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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The renovations outside of work orders are all purely cosmetic right?

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Yes

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Some of them have fates attatched to them

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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^

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Ah dang, vendor is offering me 1 diamond for 100 gemstones and I have no gemstones.

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Rip

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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dang 😦

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Actually. maybe I do if I restart before saving.

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No, 68. rip

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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I'm calling the cops

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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no fish?

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fish money saves you sometimes

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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FISH CASH

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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i havent figured out how to actually catch the fish yet

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like, my controller vibrates and i hit the button and... nothing

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so i wait and it vibrates a 2nd time and nothing

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either way i cant figure it out

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 6:29 AM

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You're hitting it too early

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:29 AM

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There's a visual and audio clue

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 6:29 AM

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You gotta wait till it bites

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 6:29 AM

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just look at the top of the pole instead of the bobber; it flashes white on the actual bite

tribal glade Oct 1, 2020, 6:29 AM

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i think i got a "too late" without seeing or hearing anything the most recent time though 😦

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oh ok that might help ty!

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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also the audio cue is more reliable than the visual ones

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Question, are different fish completely rng or am i doing something wrong? I seem to get the same 1-2 fishes per biome

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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You get third fish on a perfect catch

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It has better rewards

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Perfect catch?

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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There’s a common fish, a rare fish, and a legendary fish in each biome, including ||chaos and greece||

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Yeah. Have to hit the perfect timing

narrow hemlock Oct 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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common fish can only be found on regular catch, legendary fish can only be found on perfect catch, rare is either

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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What is the perfect timing?

narrow hemlock Oct 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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you have a very tiny window when a fish bites to get a perfect catch

hard pawn Oct 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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if you hit the bite in under 0.35s you get a rare with a 5% chance for a legendary, it you hit between 0.35s and 1s you get a common with a 5% for a rare

deep marten Oct 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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It's like, just when the water splashes when the bobber goes down

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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That... seems almost impossible to catch a legendary

narrow hemlock Oct 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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depends honestly

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Oh hi there Tatz squirtnya

narrow hemlock Oct 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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I get perfect catches almost all the time but I rely on controller vibration for fishing bc I react to it faster

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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I don't have that kind of reaction time, especially with slight lag

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Also: Ironic that you can't say the F word in this discord considering that is like... 70% of what Zeus does. The randy dog :D

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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I use keyboard and mouse .-.

narrow hemlock Oct 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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It's a family friendly server for all ages

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 6:34 AM

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I know, I know. But greek gods are very not family friendly.

fading gazelle Oct 1, 2020, 6:34 AM

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@raven meteor The best advice I can give, is that the 4th bob will always be the final bob

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:34 AM

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That... is false

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I've had it bite on the first bob

verbal violet Oct 1, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Same.

narrow hemlock Oct 1, 2020, 6:34 AM

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no volty is saying if you get 3 fakes the 4th will always be a bite

raven meteor Oct 1, 2020, 6:34 AM

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And 3rd seems most often the one