and more dashes
#h1-discussion
static wadi
static wadi
i like it
rapid forum
it's just not for me I guess
static wadi
u dash like mad firing all this staf with poison or lightning
rapid forum
considering my last run was utterly terrible
there are barely any boons that synergizes with one another
verbal violet
I found a rapid attack and defelct for the bow. Quite fun.
rapid forum
yea, I just need to finish a run with bow
then one list down
fav run probably, hades's spear and magnet fist
why run to the enemy when you can be scorpion?
verbal violet
Still have to buy anything other than the bow. Just got it today.
rapid forum
welp, haven't really experimented with bow
verbal violet
I found that a Q build works almost better than doing left clicks with the bow.
rapid forum
you had me at shotgun
unkempt sleet
Just dash in people's face with the longest range weapon in the game
verbal violet
Whoops, I just learned not to spurn Aphrodite.
verbal violet
Dusa is bae.
unkempt sleet
I can't remember if the crit chance from bow stacks with Artemis
I'm pretty sure it does
static wadi
ofc it is
unkempt sleet
I haven't experimented a lot with it due to my love with Chiron and Rama
verbal violet
Yeah I saw there is basically a quest list for getting each different thing from the gods, but I kinda already have favourites :D
tawdry flower
RNG is against me tonight. I’m trying to get the gun’s 4th aspect, and I’ve done 5 runs with the gun. ||Zeus|| showed up in only 2 of the runs and didn’t bring it up at all.
verbal violet
I'm not sure getting knockback on sword was a good idea. Now I'm dashing after enemies non stop :D
tawdry flower
Is your dash also doing knockback?
verbal violet
Oh that would be fun :D
tawdry flower
And are you doing extra damage for slamming into walls or applying Rupture to knocked enemies?
verbal violet
Oh wait, if I have the festive fog rightclick, can I not put the mark thing on enemies?
unkempt sleet
No, but the fog deals a lot if damage on impact to compensate
verbal violet
Something to keep in mind I guess for the future.
static wadi
@verbal violet same for Ares And demetra cast
they do not stuck in your enemies
and zeus cast can stuck in another)
verbal violet
Should I for a while just go with the "fated choice" options to get that done?
formal leaf
I pick fated choices if I feel like the run is already kinda botched.
You'll get it done eventually anyway.
Only exception was picking new duo boons when offered coz idk when I'll get the same combo again
verbal violet
Basically achievements that give rewards for completing certain tasks.
static wadi
understood
well yes if i have all boons i need i can take some other for prophecies
but usually i try to avoid rooms i dont need
some boons seems pretty rare for me to ignore them
even if they are basic
for example it was rly hard to find exit wounds
dull lotus
Saw a tiny patch? Anything changed or just fixes?
static wadi
@dull lotus devs on a break iirc so no changes soon
dull lotus
Yeah it was only a 22mb patch so figured probably something backend
static wadi
localisation error mb
verbal violet
Hate hydra.
static wadi
@verbal violet lerni is cool
brisk trail
I finished the game and maxed all aspects but the 4th one isnt unlocked
Lernie is cute @verbal violet
Yea, Lernie is good. Can't stand the trigger-happy witches on Asphodel though
verbal violet
Uuuh, I'm really tempted by cursed slash.
Does the health reduction count for all future upgrades or just the ones you have on pickup? If the ladder then I guess picking it early is a bit better.
static wadi
@verbal violet u mean secret spear aspect or what
verbal violet
I mean the cursed slash. you gain HP per attack but max HP is reduced.
supple pond
reduces both what you have and what you pickup iirc
static wadi
yes centaur hearts become weaker
verbal violet
Ok, then it doesn't matter when you pick it up I guess.
static wadi
yes
verbal violet
But it's pretty strong so far, specially combined with the shield call.
static wadi
not big sword fan
verbal violet
I pick whatever is glowing purple.
static wadi
dark thirst?
i do not need much darkness now
so i focus on bounties
it's kinda boring
but why not
verbal violet
I think I lucked myself into a really strong sword build. Pretty fun
static wadi
beat 32 heat with it?
verbal violet
Not sure what that is.
static wadi
do u have pact?
verbal violet
What's pact?
verbal violet
I'm currently struggling with plague rats as a sword user. now those are pain.
bright lance
guys how is hades so good
its the best roguelike game ever made
i've played a lot of roguelikes, and even with the better ones like Dead Cells I end up getting bored after 5-10 hours max
Hades is the only one where every run just feels so different and my playstyle drastically changes with the different boons and weapon choices, and sometimes it's so different I feel like I'm playing an entirely different game
I can never get bored of this 🥳
verbal violet
Ah, didn't manage it :<
verbal violet
So, the keepsakes you can get from the gods, they're basically to make sure which boon you get first and then they are useless and you have to change them out on your way up?
static wadi
@verbal violet well almost
they still add rarity chance if u find anothe boon from this god
supple pond
You could take a look at the codex and pick keepsakes based on a duo you wanna try getting
static wadi
and surrender
and choose weapon and trinket i need
to make proper run
collar can be better
magic onyx
What are good contractor upgrades to prioritize with diamonds?
static wadi
lounge i guess
magic onyx
I skipped Erebus gate cause it’s expensive and im only at 2 heat atm
static wadi
well of course u finish basic first
magic onyx
What about the ones that help enable gemstones vs the ones that upgrade room rewards?
static wadi
even erebus
verbal violet
I like demeter but her buffs are kinda unimpressive :<
static wadi
she is cool with cast builds
carmine ravine
stuff like demeter and aphrodite is mostly for the base dmg
and status curse for dat extra 40%
static wadi
y mb for status
verbal violet
I got the one that makes my boons common and now they upgrade every 3 encounters. seems nice if I didn't get it super early.
carmine ravine
it makes them heroic if u got them before styx
static wadi
@verbal violet if u lucky she will ubgrade boons u need
magic onyx
Does the lambent plume effect go away if you switch it out during the run?
carmine ravine
yes iirc
static wadi
yes
magic onyx
Awkward
magic onyx
I took one all the way through a run
And then switched it out for acorn right before the final boss
Whoops
carmine ravine
the base dmg and dmg boost from status curse is better than stuff like hangover and doom, unless u got certain respective boons
static wadi
well if u play through poison u stack it and pom it up
and if u keep it only for status
better take weak or freeze or even
how does athena status called
carmine ravine
deflect/exposed
carmine ravine
em4 isnt that hard
static wadi
i never tried it
pliant mountain
Anyone else on steam who received a patch?
static wadi
yeah a little
pliant mountain
Minor bug fixes I'm guessing?
static wadi
just some fixes i guess
carmine ravine
not enough to put in a full patch notes probably
static wadi
28 mb
brisk trail
Fantastic game!
static wadi
yup it is
verbal violet
"Foes drop bloodstones stuck in them faster" isn't that a negative?
granite ether
Not really, means you can pick em up faster and reuse them either on the same enemy or others
static wadi
and u want to use cast more often
granite ether
Also faster procs of exit wounds
static wadi
but if u want to hit them with ur sword u mb ignore that
exit wounds is hard to find
does aphro still have best scales?
granite ether
Nowhere as hard to find as fully loaded in the nighty night update
static wadi
thx
granite ether
There was a time fully loaded had prereqs of both exit wounds and dual shot (now mirage shot)
muted valley
thank gods they changed it
granite ether
Yeah, I had to ask for help in order to finally get fully loaded then (based Peach 
)
verbal violet
Survived hydra with 1HP. who needs more?
static wadi
redacted need more than 1 hp to be beated)
sharp fossil
i mean, you don't really need more than 1 hp to beat redacted
i'd usually recommend it, but its not required
sharp fossil
i think i've done hitless redacted precisely one (1) time
had more than 1 hp tho, which was a shame looking back
sharp fossil
yes to all three lol
sharp fossil
ngl that kinda annoys me
static wadi
i thought it's mistake
sharp fossil
its been that way for a while, so i presume its intentional, but its weirdly inconsistent
sharp fossil
yeah idk
presumably a balance thing, but i don't think it would be ridiculous if they allowed it to work
granite ether
what's the exact wording on premium vintage?
static wadi
?
sharp fossil
don't have the wording in front of me, but it probably calls out room rewards specifically, yeah
still don't think it would be unreasonable to expand that
also they don't grant levels ofc
static wadi
well it's not oly room reward
if u buy dio boon for nectar
he give you vintage
not usual
sharp fossil
that's kind of a room reward tho since it comes from a boon
but i don't disagree; it ends up feeling inconsistent, even if it technically isn't
granite ether
it sounds like an ever persistant bug to me
sharp fossil
nah i'm pretty sure its intentional; its like how keys bought from shops don't grant fate
granite ether
as the wording is "Max hp up whenever you pick up Nectar. Receive 1 Nectar now"
unkempt sleet
It should be any nectar, since the nectar dropped by picking up the boon works
static wadi
VintageNectar.png
Vintage Nectar
Underworld Renovation: Collecting Nectar gives a random Boon +1 Lv.
unkempt sleet
Oh that one
static wadi
nothing about reward nectar or something else
unkempt sleet
Those only affect room rewards, yeah
sharp fossil
yeah same with the health boost from darkness and gold from gems
floral shore
I am fairly certain that since 1.0 I've seen the Nectar from Dio give my boons a rank up.
unkempt sleet
Gotta watch out to not confuse vintage nectar and premium vintage
sharp fossil
yeah the dio nectar works for some reason
its other nectar, such as from troves or bought at shops that doesn't
static wadi
u can buy nectar in shop?
granite ether
most likely because things resulting from boons are treated as room rewards
unkempt sleet
Guaranteed nectar works but random nectar doesn't, basically
sharp fossil
i guess
granite ether
||https://imgur.com/a/UvIfHGG|| - current wording for gem and nectar meta-resource boosts, the wording is the same for darkness and keys too
dusk hawk
does anyone have an idea of the formula behind the sack spawning chance per chamber in Styx?
distant lotus
It'll be 25% then
granite ether
it's neither of those things (I don't know exactly how it works either unfortunately, but I know it ain't that)
verbal violet
Aaah, I'm starting to feel the RNG, just questionably useful aphrodite upgrades.
granite ether
from having a quick search ||it only appears after having cleared 7 chambers (it being the saytr sack) from there it's RNG||
verbal violet
Zeus has become super rare for me it seems.
pulsar nymph
I'm imagining that meme with euridyce and orpheus:
Me, my husband, and his 4 foot tall zagreus body pillow
verbal violet
I feel like 200 gemstones for 1 titans blood is not a good offer.
static wadi
yes
rough token
As in, give Blood --> get gemstones?
verbal violet
Yes.
rough token
Yeah that's a bad deal until you don't need any more blood xD
verbal violet
I haven't even gained the ability to put blood in my weapons, which the game has been talking about for a while.
hard pawn
You’re gonna need all you can get your hands on
rough token
You need to || unlock all 6 weapons ||
static wadi
yay i made bond with Tomatos!
hard pawn
I started unlocking || the companions ||and I’ve got nothing to upgrade them with cause I turned every single bottle of ambrosia I’ve gotten into blood
rough token
@hard pawn || companions are a spoiler, please ||
hard pawn
my bad
static wadi
@hard pawn u still able to harvest more bottles
granite ether
no worries ^_^
granite ether
sleep is important so I hear
rough token
Hypnos certainly thinks so
granite ether
I agree with Hypnos on that
Zagreus doesn't seem to think sleep is important however
rough token
He takes a nap every once in a while, so I've heard
meager barn
decorative seats are all he knows
rough token
Maybe it's because he can never get eternal rest, so what's the point of temporary rest?
granite ether
maybe 
meager barn
hes just dtf (down to fight)
static wadi
i rly love dev's idea about all Zagreus myths
rough token
Right? They took an almost forgotten, minor hunting deity and spun a tale about his grand escape from the depths
meager barn
they took an obscure god and made him a hottie and an interesting character
bruh what
rough token
Wdym? Zagreus was a real deity
static wadi
yes but he wasnt hades son
meager barn
'real'
static wadi
and he didnt escape and so on
meager barn
actually its debated on what their identity really was, but one of the conclusions was that they were the son of hades
its pretty well documented
static wadi
yes
and sometimes he was hades
and sometimes dionysus
and lots and lots of version
rough token
Not really, there're I think 3 or 4 versions?
Which is a small number for the greeks
static wadi
and all this inconsistencies very funny embodied by devs in hymh
meager barn
theres a few big interpretations but theres other small inconsistencies after that
rough token
Yes, the devs did throw in references to some of the other versions of the myth
wicked ingot
Keep in mind that ancient Greece was a bunch of small towns each with their own dalects and gods, always arguing and fighting like a big happy disfynctional family
meager barn
they adapted a several thousand year old story into a video game it doesnt have to be accurate lole
im just happy its not disney's hercules all over again
static wadi
well it doesnt but it's still very funny idea
they even made Demeter not relative to most olympians to avoid some unwelcome question
meager barn
"i do not talk about the game
game is pure devs fantasy" sounded like you were unhappy with it to me
static wadi
no
i wanted to say that all my speech was about song
not the game
sry my english is bad and sometimes it's hard to explain what i want
meager barn
thats fair
meager barn
theyre all bangers
rough token
True
static wadi
hymn
brisk trail
and sometimes dionysus
@static wadi It'll get addressed at one point in the game by both Zagreus and Dionysus.
static wadi
@brisk trail that what i was talking about
they explained all inconsistencies of all myths with simple way
it was just some gods joke
most funny should be Zag reactions when he will know consequence of that "little joke"
meager barn
when i hear the beginning of in the blood, good riddance, lament of orpheus and hymn to zagreus its like "hm yes the next 3 minutes are gone now"
brisk trail
Btw few days ago I couldn't even make it past Champions on Elysium using spear, but now have escaped twice using ||Aspect of Hades||, this aspect is realllllyyy good, especially with flaring or massive spin. Still not sure ||Aspect of Guan Yu|| will be as good as this, as the reduced health really detrimental
static wadi
well for me GY is good but usually i played it with spamming Q
brisk trail
What boons you went for the Q? I almost never use Q on Spears, because of their very limited AOE.
verbal violet
Hmm how rare are calls? Seems like I had a few runs where at hydra I had no call.
spare ridge
not that much
i usually see at least one by the time i get to hydra, theres just a better boon usually so i don’t take the call
meager barn
yeah, i feel like theyre the same as any other type theyre just overall less useful
only one i really instapick is zeus
spare ridge
yeah it’s pretty strong
meager barn
its disgustingly good lol
with jolted for privilege its 👀 💦
esp with a fast weapon like fists
spare ridge
God jolted
granite ether
and with aphro on something else, smoldering air 👀
static wadi
usually i kill bosses before i charge call
verbal violet
I had the invulnerability one + faster charge + charge on getting hit + recover life on left click with sword. that was a brutal combo.
meager barn
#humblebrag
spare ridge
wha
static wadi
u know when u hit columns
there are stones falling on the floor
and Tomatos can stuck among them
wow no dmg charon!
ofc if i have 3 boons euro will upgrade 2 i need less(
alpine perch
beat lernie yesterday and then went all the way thru to almost beating theseus. pain
static wadi
lernie can be rude sometimes
meager barn
i dont know what qualifies as spoilers anymore lol
ive beaten the game several times and ||theseus|| is still the most irritating boss for me to fight
wooden sluice
man this game is tough, can't even get to final boss
verbal violet
Hydra can be annoying because there tends to be a lot going on in a quite small arena.
meager barn
😔
meager barn
are you using death defiance or stubborn defiance
wooden sluice
yeah i'm using dd
meager barn
bc once i stopped using stubborn i started winning way more
verbal violet
The furthest I got was with that OP sword build, but I'm not sure I can get that lucky again.
verbal violet
I found the Daedalus Hammer to have consistently the strongest impact.
meager barn
yeah daedalus definitely feels like the thing your entire build revolves around early on
static wadi
not always
opaque nexus
Poseidon sword basically gets nothing from hammers
verbal violet
Spear with tripple attack, bow with rapid fire, sword with life leech. It's pretty good.
static wadi
when i play Chaos shield with Dio Q i do not need any hammers
opaque nexus
Having double edge can be nice on poseidon as a backup
meager barn
the only time it doesnt for me is when i keep getting the extra damage to armor ones 😔
verbal violet
I put Q on mouse4. So much better.
static wadi
it can be good but i dont need them much
opaque nexus
But in elysium pretty much every room will have a hammer as a choice until you take it so it’s better to do that to free up other choices
static wadi
well ofc if i have no choice i can pick hammer
opaque nexus
Also I never take cursed slash
static wadi
other way i prefer poms hp or money
opaque nexus
Double edge is the hammer with the strongest impact on the sword
On nemesis you’re dash striking anyway so it’s basically double damage
meager barn
sword has insane hammer privilege
meager barn
hoarding slash, cursed slash and double edge are disgustingly good
opaque nexus
Exploding skewer, flurry jab, charged skewer for guan yu
verbal violet
Say, if I have 3 things from say Aphrodite and meet her again, will I only get level up options from aphro? Should I sell what is terrible? What effect does it have on other gods?
I barely ever sell boons I have and I'm not sure if I should.
opaque nexus
Quick spin and massive spin also great on guan yu
verbal violet
cursed slash can be great in the right combo to make you into a tanky monster.
opaque nexus
You need to completely build your run around it
meager barn
i dont know how i feel about rail hammers tbh
opaque nexus
If you get it in Tartarus that is possible, but if it shows up in elysium yeah that’s not happening
meager barn
i won with delta chamber + seeking fire + demeter attack recently
but it felt like a complete fluke
unkempt sleet
Delta chamber is widely regarded as the worst hammer upgrade
verbal violet
I said earlier, I got lucky with the cursed slash and got athena's aid as well as a bunch call generator upgrades, so I could go invulnverable whenever I got hit and heal full.
meager barn
cluster bomb is a banger hammer tho
verbal violet
A lot of good combos feel like flukes. Flurry bow + left click deflects was really good too but felt fluke-y
valid canyon
whats cursed slash
unkempt sleet
Flurry slash is also good with cursed
verbal violet
cursed slash is life leech.
valid canyon
oh nice
brisk trail
just used the fisticuffs for the first time. bangin' weapon
unkempt sleet
I think it's -60% health
verbal violet
Yes I was hoping for flurry on top, but I never got it Thunder.
verbal violet
But with that combo I ended up doing 4 bar calls multiple times a fight.
unkempt sleet
I recently got the next best thing which is flurry and hoarding
100 damage per swing with fast swings is pretty good
verbal violet
Btw, I was wondering how relevant are dots at all? 8 damage every 0.5 seconds seems kinda... bad when you can deal many times that with regular attacks.
meager barn
doom can be extremely good
unkempt sleet
Dio stacks 5 times
meager barn
ive had less success with hangover tho
unkempt sleet
I've had a lot of success with Dio, and it's especially good with duos
verbal violet
Yeah I think I got tripple spear attack and "your attacks cause hangover" and was just super underwhelmed.
valid canyon
the only time ive killed ||hades|| was with hangover
verbal violet
I thought it would be dot central now but it really wasn't.
unkempt sleet
Triple as in triple poke or triple dash attack
verbal violet
Tripple poke.
meager barn
monkfish you should probs change that to redacted
unkempt sleet
Triple poke is underwhelming imo
static wadi
i wish i had Dio/Ares Dio/Aphro duos with Chiron or Chaos aspect
meager barn
yeah big agree
verbal violet
I dunno if that's a spoiler, it's like.. pretty obvious it's gonna happen? But oh well.
unkempt sleet
The final boss is better if you discover it on your own
meager barn
i wish it targeted a little better
very rarely would you need the close range aoe compared to what other hammers give
verbal violet
Also: Weird thing that happened to me: I had conversation with Nyx where she talked about ||my mother || BEFORE the events where you go to bed and make certain discoveries and confront nyx about it. Made the situation very weird.
unkempt sleet
Happens. The whole bed cutscene has a wierd trigger imo
verbal violet
Also I think the game didn't expect me to go from beating the first boss to dying somewhere after the first boss to going straight to redacted because some of the conversations got odd. :D
So what's the deal with selling? Should I be selling boons? Is that a thing you should do? Do the slots "Keep" you from finding better ones?
cinder lichen
Zagreus himself is now a selling point
Thanks SGG design team
He has obtained a simp
unkempt sleet
If you have all core boons (the ones that show up on the right) and you don't like one of them, having it actively prevents other core boons from showing up
T2 boons and beyond (the ones that have requirements) usually help you in the long run and you should keep those
No, not that right, the other right.
static wadi
wow em4 SO COOL
brisk trail
Can someone help me me with the dark reflections quest?
static wadi
?
brisk trail
There are upgrades i cant get
distant lotus
What's the quest?
brisk trail
You need to get all of the mirror upgrades
There are upgrades i cant get
@brisk trail like ||fiery presence||
wheat fiber
what was the update for?
distant lotus
Probably stuff in #hades-patch-notes or was bug fixes
They wouldn't have added anything more to story anyway
coarse sierra
I have a question. Where || can I catch first three fishes? || I have every other except of those 3
coarse sierra
Ok, thank you ^^
static wadi
and all they gives is darkness(
brisk trail
quick question: how do i take a screenshot ingame?
unkempt sleet
F11
brisk trail
thanks!
modest lark
wdim "Wouldnt fly"?
@static wadi Like in general English language? It just means something won't work.
static wadi
like it cant happen?
modest lark
Won't be effective
spare ridge
well
void vigil
wdim “Wouldnt fly”?
@static wadi it depends on the context, maybe it just means “wouldn’t fly”
static wadi
it was moment when Zag ask what if he bring skelly to the lounge
skelly answered that wouldnt fly
i dont think he was going to fly anywhere
brisk trail
hmm
sterile peak
that means it wouldn't be allowed
void vigil
That would be good to bring up in #hades-localization
brisk trail
yea
sterile peak
verb: When something won't go over well, won't pass muster, or won't work in a given situation, it is dismissed with the words "not going to fly" or "ain't gonna fly."
static wadi
yup i already wrote in pm for some girl who works on that ty
sage marten
yeah, events and convos are all over the place after 1.0
i got the nyx tells dusa not to speak with you convo again
sage marten
waddup
fallen violet
Duwang gang?
@fallen violet @sage marten
brisk trail
Just paused the game and wanna say that holy crap, Cluster Bomb, Seeking Fire and Support Fire, Glacial Glare, Crystal Clarity, Crystal Beam = auto aim fiesta
mighty coyote
on lasting consequences 1, anyone know if the healing hammer for sword heals 1 or 2 hp?
flat vapor
i'm pretty sure the healing from cursed slash (and guan yu) are unchanged with LC
sinful pine
how/can i interact with ||the fan shade after beating theasterius?||
can't find a prompt
flat vapor
go near them
sinful pine
the ||red|| one?
flat vapor
you don't actually talk to them, zag just says a voice line when you walk next to them
cyan warren
I don't understand whats the point of having no checkpoints options at all
thats incredibly annoying
static wadi
it's part of the game
sinful pine
if you fall off a mountain you're climbing you won't conveniently drop at a nice ledge
imo it makes passing a run that much more rewarding
cyan warren
lol
unkempt sleet
If you quit and not give up it saves at the start if the room you're in
floral shore
It's a Roguelite. You die, you start over, that's essentially how the genre works.
unkempt sleet
But other than that ^^^
floral shore
Thanks to some fairly generous meta progression Hades is even nicer about it than a lot of other games in the genre.
brisk trail
I have to gush. This game made hella progress from 2018 to 2020
hidden oasis
i found bug where i can report it ?
brisk trail
gameplay, environs, characters, and mechanics
unkempt sleet
There's a bug reporter in game, press f10
If you're on switch then #h1-tech-support
brisk trail
I dunno how much this gets talked about but I really dig how the narrative and the gameplay conceit/mechanics are so tightly connected and complementary
unkempt sleet
Welcome to Supergiant Games
brisk trail
yeah
imo its how storytelling in games is supposed to be done
vs. the semi-interactive-movie thing a lot of AAA games seem to be aspiring to
hallow gulch
just wanted to say that you guys did good making hades. im having alot of fun with it. It has that good rouge like elements but still very forgiving for beginners.
cinder lichen
Roguelikes are completely randomly generated every time you play them.
Roguelites are the same, but you somehow grow permanently stronger the next time around.
hallow gulch
I see
just out curiosity is there any plans in the far future to add more content to hades?
static wadi
i do not think tbh
hallow gulch
I guess so i just wanted to ask.
void vigil
"Now that Early Access is over, what's next?
Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready."
from #hades-faq
static wadi
gl with that
barren ocean
I like that when I try to set a new PB it never works
but when i just do a normal run i manage to beat my PB by 2 min
rocky flicker
I see a lot of people discussing how many runs it took them to beat the final boss for the first time. My question is: how many time did you reach him before you finally beat him?
fresh cloud
Hello. I want to buy Hades for a friend. But, I am currently region-locked in Taiwan. Is there a way to buy the game for my friend?
dusty spade
You can send him a steam wallet code
or ask for his account to buy for him from his actual account
the second is what I did
arctic umbra
I probably reached him a dozen times. beat him on 28th try
tawdry flower
I beat him on my 28th run, third time reaching him
barren ocean
I think i reached him like 5 times before beating him on 32
summer geyser
I reached him on 20. Beat on 21,22,23 Pepega'd from like 24-29 and am now on an 11 win streak
brisk trail
I have a porblem with Control key setting
I'm playing hades in epic games launcher.
here is the problem.
I can't change my key. it's just suddenly stop
and I can't click cancle or whatever button on the screen
anyone who knows this problem?
unkempt sleet
I need to do a fresh file run so I can say I beat him on 7 or something
Otherwise I beat him on my 150th or so attempt
Tho I did a lot of runs when he wasn't implemented yet
And it took me around 6 tries to beat him
I have a porblem with Control key setting
I'm playing hades in epic games launcher.
here is the problem.
I can't change my key. it's just suddenly stop
and I can't click cancle or whatever button on the screen
anyone who knows this problem?
@brisk trail probably better to go to #h1-tech-fixes
brisk trail
oh thanks
So, I've maxed my bond with Ares, gave him Ambrosia, and a chibi logo of him and additional words appear on his Keepsake. what does it mean? Will it have effects on his boons?
hard pawn
The chibis are just a bonus for maxing their hearts, they don’t do anything mechanically
brisk trail
Oh I see. Thanks!
unique stirrup
Anyone know any tricks to unlock the final aspects? I've completed 100 runs, seen the full ending, but still don't have the final bow or shield.
brisk trail
||you need to max out and spend 5 titans blood on one aspect of each weapon to unlock the hidden aspect. For example to get bewolf you need to talk to chaos||
@unique stirrup
unkempt sleet
Requirements are pinned in #h1-story-discussion
unkempt sleet
It's fine
dusky wagon
EM3 boss seems easier than the normal version lol.
unkempt sleet
What you just said is heresy
brisk trail
EM is real nice
unkempt sleet
How do you beat EM3 easier than normal T&A
brisk trail
its my favorite ||heat|| booster.
dusky wagon
He just drives around and drops bomb. That is infinitely easier than his typical "I block everything and spam snipe shot".
brisk trail
I just dont notice any change.
dusky wagon
taurus big swings are the only thing that is truly enhanced in this version.
unkempt sleet
And the slam explosion
brisk trail
hydra honestly isn't that bad with em
dusky wagon
That said, I got Hunter DAsh early, and got 2 chaos things for increased dash-attack damage AND got the "-25% dash range but 3x dash attack"
brisk trail
but I also use shield, so take me with a grain of salt.
dusky wagon
everything melts. It's the most broken thing I've seen as of yet.
Dash attack for over 600 damage? Yes please.
tawdry flower
Added to Poseidon dash?
unkempt sleet
With spear? How did you get close to T?
hard pawn
Artemis builds tho
tawdry flower
Oh, you used Artemis
dusky wagon
@tawdry flower hunter dash
frosty thistle
@inland lake Do you use a wireless controller? That might be the reason you cant catch fish as well
barren ocean
Demeter Cast builds 
frosty thistle
emphasis on might
hard pawn
Multiple dashes + Hunter Dash + || aspect of gilgamesh dash attack || = too much damage
dusky wagon
My fav cast is Dionisus AoE. Super damage and with the "3 sec automatically cast again" you can just spam it whenever it'S up
hard pawn
I love Poseidon cast with the 3 sec cd
barren ocean
lol
limpid root
vanquished lernie
dusky wagon
Does EM full also alter hades fight or did I just clear it first try?
barren ocean
depends on EM level
dusky wagon
full
barren ocean
Full EM4?
hard pawn
You have to unlock that level
barren ocean
^
inland lake
@frosty thistle no, im on PC, KB + M
dusky wagon
How?
inland lake
im just slow 😦
brisk trail
its ok
barren ocean
@inland lake Are you waiting for the bobber to actually sink?
frosty thistle
Then sorry, cant help you, modding community might be able to help you somehow tho
brisk trail
if you want an invite dm me
inland lake
@barren ocean im looking for the visual effect + sound cue
barren ocean
It will vibrate and move but you cant hook it until the bobber goes under
inland lake
i got over 100 hours in this game now i cant do it 😔
barren ocean
Like theres a bunch of false pulls
brisk trail
F
inland lake
ye i know
hard pawn
I caught my first || legendary fish || yesterday and was all excited and then it sold for 30 gems
tawdry flower
There’s a list somewhere of what everything sells for
hard pawn
Yeah I had looked at it before just didn’t check then
tame sigil
any tips for sword bow or railgun run?
covert glen
been a while since i've been here
this place has grown quite a bit since last i played, damn
tawdry flower
First area is gems, second area is keys, third is nectar, fourth is a lot of gems, chaos is darkness, and ||surface is diamond/ambrosia/blood||
hard pawn
I’ve only caught like two of the areas common fish cause I go too fast and get guaranteed rare 
rigid fossil
Anyone have issues unlocking final aspects? I'm 46 runs in on hell mode with 13 clears and always talk to everyone. On normal mode I've unlocked 3 of them after 33 runs. I also can't seem to progress Sisyphus quest. I'm really that unlucky?
hard pawn
Yeah Chaos refuses to tell me the phrase for the shield
umbral flame
Is there a way to force Daedalus hammer to be your first boon?
hard pawn
Nope
tame sigil
luck
tawdry flower
It dips 0-5 times, then there’s a splash with a white effect
umbral flame
ah, darn
tame sigil
when it splashes with the white effect i pull?
tame sigil
yeah i do that
unkempt sleet
It will fake you out 3 times tops
tame sigil
dang good to know
hard pawn
like it says too early
As ginge said that means you’re pulling on a bob not a bite
tawdry flower
If it’s not a bite at the very beginning it usually comes immediately after a nibble
Like within half a second for me
So if you’re going a few seconds without a bob/nibble, it won’t be a bite on the next one
tame sigil
got it thanks
tawdry flower
It just takes practice ((it’s very similar to Animal Crossing fishing))
tame sigil
ok nice i know that
hard pawn
Timing is a bit more harsh than that but otherwise it’s similar
tame sigil
finished clears on shield spear and fists only left is sword railgun and bow
anyone familiar with those weapons and can give me tips?
tulip ocean
what does everyone use for priority in picking rooms? Boons>hammers>poms>health>money>darkness
tulip ocean
bow is awesome with the ||hera ||form, it's my favorite weapon, get a good cast (I like poseidon or artemis) and shoot for hermes/artemis rooms.
maiden copper
For boons, I avoid the door if it doesn't synergize well with my build
unkempt sleet
Hammers, boons, health/coin depending on biome, poms
tulip ocean
the faster you get cast to fall off enemies the better with that bow. So hermes instant pickup and hermes faster drop off are key
tame sigil
bow is awesome with the ||hera ||form, it's my favorite weapon, get a good cast (I like poseidon or artemis) and shoot for hermes/artemis rooms.
@tulip ocean thank u will try it out
tulip ocean
and if you can get the damage on falloff from artemis I believe, even better
hard pawn
its far better to just uses 3 sec recharge cast with Hera
stiff nexus
not sure where to ask but the hades merch has the lowest shipping option at 37 USD ? is there gonna have other options later on ?
tame sigil
wait it stacks???
tulip ocean
it does stack, faster falloff makes it fall off faster, instant pickup makes it fly to you
so you can remain in cover and still get your bloodstones back
tulip ocean
for sword I did a similar build, as there's the aspect of ||Poseidon||
hard pawn
also ez bow wins is Chiron aspect + daedalus hammer 4 extra special shot
unkempt sleet
Note: Hermes legendary is hard to get. Plume usage recommended
tulip ocean
hammer on bow? You don't really need anything but I like the +4 to special for big enemy nuking
tame sigil
il try it out this run thanks !
tulip ocean
your cast will follow your main shot in 3 way shot btw if you get it, not all 3
hard pawn
bow has really good aspects which makes up for || aspect of rama || being physically painful to use
dusky wagon
That dash-strike guan-yu run was the easiest ever. And that on EM3.
tulip ocean
I haven't unlocked ||chiron ||aspect yet, need to do that
hard pawn
imo its the strongest non-hidden aspect in the game
tulip ocean
I'll look into it, I need ||blood|| though...
for railgun, I find that I can't really enjoy using it unless I get a change to the special. That lob is too slow
but if you can get the hammer for never needing to reload, and attack speed up with like chain lightning or stacking doom then you don't really need special at all
hard pawn
i use maxed Zag aspect for exagryph, or || aspect of lucifer || occasionally
i'm working on upgrading aspect of hestia though
tulip ocean
that's the one I unlocked, but it still feels subpar
tame sigil
@hard pawn what would u recommend for the ||chiron ||bow build?
tulip ocean
bit of a tip, even if you get never needing to reload, you can still reload to boost that aspect
+4 special, gg apparently
tame sigil
i need blood to get the ||hera ||bow
tulip ocean
from what I'm reading on ||Chiron|| bow
pair that with a status affect special I guess
hard pawn
prioritize +4 special daedalus, i usually end up with Artemis or Aphrodite special (though Dionysus or Ares (with the stackable doom boon) would also be good)
tame sigil
yeah maybe chill?
tulip ocean
I mostly avoid Demeter rooms
wind nest
I like dionysus special or zeus special on that bow aspect
coral verge
Posideon Special + Sea Storm on Chiron
hard pawn
Ares main attack is nice cause you'll set up the doom while setting up the lock-on
dusky wagon
Ok unlocked EM4. Now onto that. Maybe EM3 is harder without that ludicrous dash-strike setup.
tulip ocean
btw, IMO, any melee weapon gets a big improvement if you get the Poseidon call
tame sigil
btw, IMO, any melee weapon gets a big improvement if you get the Poseidon call
@tulip ocean I feel like athena gives them
hard pawn
the first run i did with Chiron aspect i got Ares attack with Aphrodite special plus their duo || (weak targets get hit repeatedly by doom) || , all in like the first 5 rooms
hard pawn
it was gg like 6 rooms in lol
tulip ocean
my first win with fists was ironically lob fog grenade cast with lightning hangover enemies repeatedly duo skill. I just hid behind walls most of the time
tame sigil
oh mine was lightning attacks with ||dio ||special and have ||athenas|| call so busted
tulip ocean
athena call is good, but when you are right on enemies like you will be with sword or fists, poseidon lets you go invincible, hit an enemy 2-3 times for 600 damage each
hard pawn
my first win was just some weird fist run with a stupid amount of special damage ups
poseidon call is good, but significantly harder to use on kb+m lol
tulip ocean
honestly in love with this game, so many options. Lack of ||blood|| makes me sad though as I want to try all the builds
hard pawn
thankfully most aspects don't need to be upgraded a bunch to be good, plus || i just trade all my ambrosia anyway ||
dusky wagon
How can I ever give someone Ambrosia? I have Achilles on a "heart with a lock" for like 4 runs already and I never get the chance to use it.
That's an aspect of the game I heavily dislike. Progression often feels super RNG.
coral verge
that's the entire game, Hades: RNG conversation
tulip ocean
yeah, same place with Achilles here, where do I trade ambrosia? I may do it
unkempt sleet
You'll need to unlock his quest to hnlock his heart
coral verge
how do you unlock X? RNG chat
dusky wagon
I just want a damn pet for once.
unkempt sleet
Generally, ||talk to Pat||
dusky wagon
I don't even get a quest from him.
coral verge
ambrosia is normally given after a certain point, heart with lock just means talk more to progress or story
hard pawn
Achilles and || Patroclus || both use the same questline to unlock their hearts, its one of the longer ones and requires completion of either || Orpheus+Euridice or Sisyphus' || quest beforehand @dusky wagon
hard pawn
ez ||companion || is just spam Dusa with nectar and || buy lounge upgrades || @dusky wagon
tulip ocean
what does ||companion ||do? just follows you?
hard pawn
|| they give you a summon ability (once per run by default can be upgraded for up to 5 per run using ambrosia), can be used with the summon button to summon the related character to help you in combat for a while (also, Sisyphus' drops some currency and health after he attacks so its especially useful to get first) ||
dusky wagon
@hard pawn Thanks. Doesn't seem like I'll ever get one then lol. Maybe from Sisyphus then.
tulip ocean
where do I trade ||ambrosia||? Or should I hold it? I've gotten ~12 so far
I'll definitely get them all, the amount of time I play this game I'll get them eventually
dusky wagon
@tulip ocean You can trade it for blood. Depending how early you are, you might want to rather use the blood.
hard pawn
depends how much you care about || companions as it costs like 15 to max one out || though imo fully upgrading them isn't super important, at least when compared to weapon aspects
tulip ocean
where?
hard pawn
you trade it in the lounge
tulip ocean
I found it, I did not know it was there. I have been playing this game for days and missed that
maybe I'll trade in all and try ||Chiron ||bow
tawdry flower
The last trade on the list is a one-time purchase that changes each run. Make sure you don’t trade down
hard pawn
check him after each run, he has special deals that can let you trade gems for blood, get better trade ratios, etc
tulip ocean
gems for blood would be nice, I don't really care about lounge stuff atm
tawdry flower
Yup, that would be a great one
hard pawn
i'd recommend avoiding that one until you've upgraded enough lounge things for || Dusa's quest || cause it is like 200 gems for a blood or something
tawdry flower
Cause it’s 10 gems for a key, 5 keys for a nectar, 10 nectar for a diamond, 2 diamonds for ambrosia/blood
tulip ocean
I've bought no lounge items, sitting on 1500
hard pawn
well maybe don't avoid it since its useful, but it is a setback for that quest
tawdry flower
Which would be 1000 gems
If you like Dusa, specifically but items for the lounge category
hard pawn
never forget when i traded all my gems and stuff in to get enough keys to trade up to a diamond, then i walked in my room and had a 30 key prophecy finished 
tulip ocean
glad to know this is here, I don't need keys anymore
hard pawn
|| bruh the title guy refuses to show up for me, i'm post-credits, pre epilogue, which from what i've seen is when he appears ||
tawdry flower
But they’re easy enough to come by in base difficulty
@hard pawn have you maxed your relationship with ||Hades||?
hard pawn
yeah and once you get the || fated keys || upgrade, you'll go for key rooms a lot in normal runs
have you maxed your relationship with ||Hades||?
didn't know that was required, i've gotten him to two hearts so far lol
tawdry flower
||Hades also gives you back all 5 nectars that you give him when you finish||
summer geyser
Random and silly question. How tall do you reckon Zag and Hades are 
tawdry flower
Zag... 6 ft?
hard pawn
Zag is slightly shorter than an average male human afaik, Hades is a tall lad
tawdry flower
Compare zag to standing humans like Achilles.
summer geyser
Zag looks pretty short imo
He's shorter than Achilles who I don't usually think of as a tall boi
tawdry flower
Hypnos?
tawdry flower
Thanatos?
hard pawn
|| than || is probably just a little taller than zag, gotta remember he floats most of the time
indigo nest
yah I was avoiding saying it so I didnt have to spoiler tag
Listen Im happy I get to romance death
tawdry flower
I’m mad Nyx is trying to interfere with my best girl
hard pawn
assuming you mean || Dusa ||, she interferes with herself anyway
neat crown
hi how do i get 500 gems easyly for diamonds from trade shop???
snow shore
Easier just to fight the boss...
plush chasm
@neat crown fight the boss for diamonds the crystals take some time if you dont play with the 20% bonus etc
brisk trail
Finally, could escape using Bow >_>
arctic umbra
Is there a benefit of maxing out (but not giving ambrosia) to anyone who doesn't have a summon? Like Skelly?
tawdry flower
I did mean ||Dusa||. I maxed out the romance and then Nyx ||told her she’s not allowed to speak to Zag and to know her place||
Skelly ||has a summon||
arctic umbra
Oh. It appears the wiki is outdated then or somethin...
plush chasm
i have found no use of ambrosia yet, do i need to give a lot of nectar before they take ambrosia?
tawdry flower
Yes
arctic umbra
like 5-6
tawdry flower
You eventually get to a locked heart with someone
arctic umbra
then perform a favor, then ambrosia
brisk trail
I've just given Ambrosia to Meg, got ||Companion||, but it appears there are still 3 hearts left to fill. Is it Ambrosias onward, or back to Nectar? And what purpose for maxing out?
hard pawn
@brisk trail || romance ||
tawdry flower
Ambrosia onwards. That is ||romancing her||
Meg is pretty cheap. One ambrosia per heart.
Dusa got expensive. It went up each time how many I needed
brisk trail
Oh wow. I see. The benefits of it? For narrative purpose, or will it affect during boss battle?
tawdry flower
Mostly narrative
brisk trail
Just spent 2 Ambrosias on ||Companion||, but gotta rest now. Can't wait to try tomorrow. This game is addictive.. x)
arctic umbra
this game is so complicated lol
it bothers me not knowing how to be most efficient XD
I have Hades at a key hole heart. do I need to give him abrosia now or figure out what the favor is yet?
woven moon
If it's a keyhole that means you gotta advance the story before it unlocks
hard pawn
Dusa got expensive. It went up each time how many I needed
she || offers to give them back ||
shell ice
you physically arent able to give ambrosia/nectar if their hearts are locked
just have to progress the story.
woven moon
Yeah
hard pawn
this game is significantly less complicated than most roguelikes
arctic umbra
the wiki states ||companions ||are once per encounter.. that doesn't seem right
it's once per run unless upgraded
hard pawn
once per encounter, number of times per run depending on level
also spoiler mark ||companions||
bitter valve
The wiki is correct in that regard
Even when it is upgraded you can only use it once per encounter
but it is also limited per run
arctic umbra
sorry I don't see anywhere in faq/readme how to spoiler tag and i'm a newb
void vigil
||like this||
arctic umbra
thanks!
stark plinth
How the hell do I get a bond with ||Persephone||? I've exhausted all dialogue options and done pretty much everything afaik - will not advance past the locked heart.
hard jasper
it's a waiting game
tawdry flower
Just work on everyone else in the mean time
brisk trail
Anybody else think this would work great with Zelda? Given Nintendo collaborating with studios who do well on the Switch, I'd be extremely hyped if they got in touch with Supergiant for a Hyrule (Hades with Zelda skin). Maybe every time link dies he's sent to the past and every region is a day or something, and Ganon can be the final boss. Lots of enemies, mechanics, characters, honestly there's a lot up for grabs that they could use.
hard pawn
How the hell do I get a bond with ||Persephone||? I've exhausted all dialogue options and done pretty much everything afaik - will not advance past the locked heart.
|| pretty sure Persephone lock requires Epilogue completion, not just post-credits ||
stark plinth
I have that done already as well
tawdry flower
How about ||Hades|| relationship?
brisk trail
Whys everyone is the game hot?
tawdry flower
Bisexual/Pan fantasy fodder?
smoky wharf
@tawdry flower as far as i know ||Hades will just pull you over sometime after true ending to talk about something. (Not going to say exactly what for the sake of you haven't reached it) but I dont know exactly what triggers the dialogue||
tawdry flower
No, I meant is ||Hades relationship|| needed to unlock ||Persephone|| further
I’ve maxed out ||Hades|| and almost done with ||Persephone||. Almost all of her stuff after the lock deal with their relationship together
smoky wharf
Oh well idk then i've only just recently ||unlocked the Hades relationship||
hybrid arch
So I have 4 titan blood and can unlock my first aspects. What's a good one to focus on first?
brisk trail
@hybrid arch Hi there. Personally, I suggest getting 1 into every aspect first, just to fulfill the prophecy.
that gives you more bloods to work with iirc, which can be put into aspects of your choice
dusty path
I’m a 400 hour Dead Cells player that just found this game for the first time. I’m smitten
brisk trail
I personally dumped all of my bloods into Zagreus's aspects because they're inexpensive to max out. Then, I worked towards others
fair dove
that gives you more bloods to work with iirc, which can be put into aspects of your choice
@brisk trail how many blood does it give u for having all aspects?
fair dove
No way
hard pawn
depends on your favorite weapon, i'd say Nemesis for sword, Zagreus for spear, Zeus for shield, Chiron for bow, Zagreus or Talos for fists, and Zagreus or Hestia for rail @hybrid arch
arctic umbra
dead cells is awesome
brisk trail
5 for Zag
15 for 2nd aspect
16 for 3rd
15 for 4th
arctic umbra
dammit I wish I put one blood on each weapon first
fair dove
depends on your favorite weapon, i'd say Nemesis for sword, Zagreus for spear, Zeus for shield, Chiron for bow, Zagreus or Talos for fists, and Zagreus or Hestia for rail @hybrid arch
@hard pawn Chiron sucks at level 1
arctic umbra
i just maxed out an aspect on my fave weapon instead
fair dove
Go for hera bow and slowly level up Chiron instead
hard pawn
Chiron is fine at level one, it still nukes with any special upgrade and if you get lucky and get the +4 special hammer you're op
Hera requires more specific builds to be useful, or at least Stygian Soul
plain cliff
Hey, trying to buy a copy of Hades for my brother on Nintendo Switch that he can enjoy it while he's in college, however I already own it on Switch so I can't see if it's still on sale in the eshop. Can anyone with a Switch tell me if it's still on sale for $20?
plain cliff
ty for the quick answer 🙂
I'll have to hold off getting it for him because digital eshop card denominations are 20 & 35. Wish they had a gifting system.
digital gale
Is there a guitar tab available of God Of The Dead OST?
hybrid arch
I tend to like the sword the most so far, but Ive got the furthest with the spear haha
smoky wharf
My top 3 is Sword, Bow, and Gun
hybrid arch
Managed to beat the hydra for the first time and make it to the Minotaur and got wrecked.
arctic umbra
i get furthest with shield
and beat it first and 2nd time with shield
gotta start the other weapons tho since i have better mirror upgrades now
need blood...
brisk trail
Whats the average number of attempts for finally beating the game. I'm just past 16
stark plinth
I think I did it on like 30 but I was playing hell mode
smoky wharf
i beat the game for the first time on exactly my 25th run
smoky wharf
look out gamers we have a god here
grand summit
36th here. But it was Hell Mode. Not sure how much of a difference that makes. XD
stark plinth
huge difference
solar scarab
I beat the game on default on my 11th
brisk trail
I don't know what hell mode is
storm jasper
7th 🤧
solar scarab
Sea storm + Chaos aspect = a wave of storms
brisk trail
where is this "hell mode" in the options?
storm jasper
||First time I met hades I was not expecting the damn beams||
solar scarab
game's harder
brisk trail
...Dammit
brisk trail
I wish I could change that now in retrospect
storm jasper
grand summit
Dusa is top tier
void vigil
@storm jasper ||final boss|| is a spoiler in this channel, please spoiler tag your message!
stark plinth
it doesn't really matter, once you get to a certain point in the game you can basically set your future runs to being hell equivalent if you really wanted to
void vigil
thanks 
grand summit
Only big difference looks like hell mode takes away i-frames after taking damage altogether.
Plus minimum 5 heat that you can't turn off.
stark plinth
Yeah, it's 25% monster damage, 20% more monsters, 15% more monster health, -25% to healing, and the iframes.
And then the implications of basically your base game being heat 5, which means having to go higher heat for new runs
vapid narwhal
20th run and only saw redacted once
gaunt totem
question
if you take either the porridge from eury with only one boon could it level up four times? or just once
quiet gull
I assume it levels only once, but never tried it
shut geyser
i had three one time thinking i'd get a double an i only got one level on each
i haven't tried with less then three
and as such want to encourage you to just to tell us but that's not in good faith
stark plinth
just once
quiet gull
Similarly, if you only have a single boon, taking the first option doesnt boost its rarity twice
gaunt totem
so I'm better off getting the nectar then
shut geyser
what spells do people like with Hera? I've been playing it a few runs in a row
quiet gull
I imagine Dionysius cast does wonder with that aspect, but havent really tried it
tbf, Dio's cast goes with everything
stark plinth
Artemis cast, Artemis legendary, exit wounds, and greater recall from hermes lol
that also works on poseidon sword
stark plinth
yes
brisk trail
btw
it is clear as day to me that we should be able to fight the strongest and most noble character in a brutal boss fight
that being Bouldy
stark plinth
that's a funny way of saying Head Chef
shut geyser
tbh I'd rather have Meg as a playable
shut geyser
if we get a buddy i'll Hypno tagging along
brisk trail
with the running gag that Heracles would be more fun a fight for Zagreus than Theseus would ever be, I'd love a bonus boss against Heracles
with the running gag that Heracles would be more fun a fight for Zagreus than Theseus would ever be, I'd love a bonus boss against Heracles
@brisk trail with Twin Fists, to relive that boss fight in GOW3.
I mean
I never played God of War
I still would love to fight off against him or one of the titans though
like Prometheus would be an interesting concept
Yea, fighting Titans sound dope.
Though I think Sisyphus said something akin to Prometheus already undergoing his punishment for his sins in the original myth
so there goes that
tame sigil
can i see ur guys best setup for ||mirror of night||
i want to switch privilaged status for family favorite
quiet gull
All purple except gold and rerolls
tame sigil
I want to know if ||family favorite means that each boon i get no matter what gives me damage cuz if it is that would be way stronger wouldnt it?||
with the running gag that Heracles would be more fun a fight for Zagreus than Theseus would ever be, I'd love a bonus boss against Heracles
@brisk trail i said the exact same thing to my friend the other day
stark plinth
It's flat damage per different god boon you have, but PS is 40% for 2 debuffs
So realistically you might get to 20 or 25% flat damage, but at that point you'd easily be able to stack 2 status effects
tame sigil
got it
raven meteor
Depends on your playstyle. If you rely on one source of damage, getting two debuffs on one target may be too unreliable compared to a consistent damage up
tame sigil
and golden touch? it makes me want to save my coins till the very end
stark plinth
Yeah that's a personal preference thing
raven meteor
Wait, does having a cast stuck in them with boiling blood count as a debuff?
stark plinth
No
raven meteor
Darn...
raven meteor
So i assume the hades spear thing also doesn't count, then
stark plinth
no. it's only status effects you get as a result of boons
exposed, chilled, hangover, weakened, doom, ruptured, jolted
raven meteor
I guess some duo boons could result in one type of damage applying two debuffs...
stark plinth
Some of them do, yes
unkempt sleet
Sea Storm is the best one for that. Autorevenge is also a good alternative
raven meteor
Yeah, my playstyle suits a flat damage up more than a damage up reliant on taking specific boons
tulip ocean
may have just accidently made my best build ever
tulip ocean
I got ||the Ice Wine duo buff (dio, demeter) and I already had fog grenade, basically I was nuking areas with instant fog casts, I also had fogged enemies get zapped, zapped enemies get jolted, jolted doesn't expire. I was running fists but I wasn't even punching at the end.||
unkempt sleet
Cast builds: when the weapon you're using doesn't even matter anymore
hard jasper
Well, ||Unless it is the Hera bow||
tulip ocean
what's best ||fist aspect||?
stark plinth
i hate them all equally
tulip ocean
I'm using ||12 hits more special||