#h1-discussion
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guys when should I expect getting repeating diologue?
acorn is good against final boss, skelly is good leading up to final boss
after 30000 hours of gameplay
0_0
(jokin)
ehm i guess it depends like how much you repeat something
I'm 100 escape attempts in and I've gotten repeated dialogue only in the random Zagreus lines during runs
definitely should take more than 10 🤔
how much did they pay their voice actors lmao
i wish they had that kind of voice acting in pyre 😩
pyre?
Darren Korb deserves an award
their previous game
ah ok
Logan is also best tho
agreed :3
Did they nerf Chaos Shield
Meg voice is my fav
Followed by Skelly and Hades
Then zag
Boyo
The clone doesn't proc bolt multiple times anymore
I love supergiant voice acting, i dont know what it is about it, but its so specific to supergiant games
i dont know if its the directing, or the writing
I know zagreus and skelly ||will never become romance options but I'd love to see Darren romancing Darren for the laughs||
hey, been a year since i last played hades. what are some major updates that happened so far? interested to play this game again but i rmb i sucked so badly i didnt win any runs before T_T
yeah it's hypnos
@real narwhal to be fair, it's the same small pool of Voice actors every time, so they always bring that signature feel. It's great. And they're all so diverse and talented
true
tho am pretty sure theres new voice actors right?
There are
@grim wadi id say the game is easier than it was in early access
i think they did that on purpose
made the early access harder so people could play it longer
they brought on a few people for voice acting yeah
They also added God mode which should help if you're having difficulty
maybe its just me, but it felt like easier to me
im like updating hades now and its 5gb worth of download
@grim wadi
40% of that is prob just voice lines lmao
any new bosses or something
yeah its really smooth
i know theres a new weapon
what the gun?
i think fist
oh thats new?
ngl I dont use the bow and gun at all
seem a bit underpowered
or is it just me
bow's really strong
i'm no expert, but i feel like bow's one of the strongest
gun is my worst enemy
Ngl, I hate the rail
yeah gun more like ass
shield is my worst enemy
gun is good with zeus boon
fists were introduced two updates ago but ||their 4th aspect|| is new
Spear, shield are the only two I'm comfortable with and made the progress with
I like doing damage really fast, so bow is my hardest weapon because it forces me to slow down
Shield feels like cheating almost
Bow point blank special so good
Spear, shield are the only two I'm comfortable with and made the progress with
yeah spear is good cause of the range
its like a bigger stygian with more aoe
i've really got into the bow recently
idk how to make a shield build, i always do so little damage, and because you have to be very close i die easier
Stygian is the sword right ?
yea
yeah
Shield is perfect
I like playing Tanks anyway 
@tranquil fable With Perfect shot hammer upgrade the one that increases speed power shot makes it a lot easier. Also, if you get the twin shot and flurry upgrade, you break the game
thats my favorite personally, for cast builds
I got boons like do 500% damage to armor using shield rush
And deflect boons on shield and dash is super good
i never take armor damage boons
cuz bosses dont have armor
and bosses are the main reason i die
I got the upgrade that lets you hold to fire but no power shot, I had a great time.
I just take whatever looks good lol
I think Athena boons are best on shielf
I got the upgrade that lets you hold to fire but no power shot, I had a great time.
@tranquil fable yeah that one, if you combine it with the twin shot upgrade its broken
Reflect on shield and dash is also good.
yeh thats my favorite dash boon thingie
i always change lol
kbm masterrace for life
i prefer controller tho
i feel like some weapons are better on different input devices 🤔
yep
like bow is better with kbm
also, getting 3k crit + extra damage with the bow hidden aspect is pretty cool
bow and Special on shield kiting
but like shield is better on controller
is much more clunky with controller..
having to mash Q with the shield kills my finger
but i do find enjoyinh it more
and it takes your fingers off the movement, unlike controllers
if i had to choose id choose controller, but i feel like its one of those games where theres no real answer, unlike an fps or smth like that
ive been playing for 2 hours jesus
@eager vortex i played for 12 hours straight on wednesday
New switch player here and just curious about others attempts. I first reached ||Hades|| on run #24 and first defeated him on #30
please spoiler final boss name
How
| | word | | without the spaces
|| on both sides
||like this||
So, I think I first reached the Final Boss around run 67? And have yet to beat them yet - currently at run 90 [and have reached them a total of 3 times between 67 and the present]
i reached them on 7 attempt and defeated them on that attempt, i think i was really lucky with the boons i had 🤔
GL you can do this
@pliant dust if you are interested in mods for hades you can find mods on nexusmods.com. There is also the Hades Modding discord, link is in #self-promotion
@potent carbon there is
@lofty dragon you're welcome to make suggestions or requests in the modding server
I finally did it, boyos! My first escape. After 53 attempts lol I suck but I'm glad I made it finally.
Although many of those were experimenting with different weapons
Amazing game btw, best roguelite ever!
congrats @dusk mantle!!! first of many i have no doubt
thanks 🙂
congrats 
The first of many
tfw when you take a Rare Ravenous Will and then last second you see an Epic Demeter's Call
is there anything that the sundial in the West Hall being always 7:48 referencing or is it just a random time for the "we're underground of course the sundial doesnt work" joke
How to change variation of a weapon?
@subtle cobalt if you mean weapon aspect then just interact with the weapon in the courtyard
Thanks, what would be the easiest weapon to use?
shield
both special and attack are really good and its pretty safe
spear and sword are about equal and then bow is probably the hardest
gun doesnt exist
So when i interact with a weapon, i just pick it up, where do i see its aspect?
What aspect is the best for cast builds?
so, what weapons do you tink its the best?
personally i think shield is the easiest to build around and gets pretty stupid fast
i havent unlocked the 4th aspects tho
ye, shild is a good weapon
i think bow's easily the worst and my favourite is definitely spear
I think the bow is really fun so far
its basically the only weapon where the special is completely useless
my favorite is shild, and the worst it is the ranged weapons
i dont think gun is bad necessarily its just boring imo
the second aspect from the bow can be pretty good, havent unlocked any others though
i play it for the special daedalus hammer builds
spear aspects are bad except 4th which is sad
1st is ok but generally you go either attack or special, not both
its basically the only weapon where the special is completely useless
@meager barn actualy no, i tink you can use realy close to do a good damage
i think gun aspects are stupid good
bow special only works when you get specific boons
the weapons aspects is aways the same?
so how can i change they?
theyre additive except the 4th one i believe
Tbh, I like the sword the most out of all the available weapons. Kind of lame, I know lol
the sword is good actualy
i tink if you get a atenas blass to reflect with you special you can do a good damage for ranged enemys
Gun is the only weapon that i wanted to kill myself for a new run
gun is a snorefest unless you get the special hammers early
in which case its kind of fun
The bombard move sucks imo
it kind of does yea
I haven’t finished a run with the gun
if you get the 5 bombs 30% damage its a monster
with artemis or zeus blessing it does insane aoe
It’s too slow for my taste though
@granite cove consider poseidon aspect on the sword. It has +30% cast damage when maxed out.
@steel flicker thank you
triple bomb, rocket bomb, targeting system and cluster bomb are all dope
hazard bomb would be hype if i were good at the game
shild is a good piece, if you get a plus damage for the charge and a faster charge you can do a lot of damage
@subtle cobalt You pick up the weapon and then click to "pick it up" again (same button) and it opens the aspect menu. However, to unlock this menu you have to have enough progress in the game. I don't remember the exact details.
nope, aspects are available when all weapons are bought and you pick up 1 titan blood i think
4th aspect requires reaching the final boss but the other 3 dont
almost positive
Quick question
Does giving nectar to the Olympians do anything specifc, beyond giving you the boon?
yes
at a certain point you gain an additional reward but its not super game changing
mostly just gives more dialogue and story elements
I never get too far with the sword
I have the most escapes with the sword
dont focus on the special
just attack/ dash-attack
2 runs in a row with epic dash +3 ooo baby
How does deflecting melee hits work again? I see it happens sometimes but I don't notice the damage, unless it's mixed in with a normal hit.
It can be done extremely consistently if you have divine dash
I don't think it can be done with anything but the dash
If you dash in sync with the attack, it deflects the damage.
No I mean, like,
do I straight up nullify the attack
or does it get dealt back at my foe, like projectiles?
I think it does
I prominently see it on bosses
But a but strangely
For example ||Dad's spear thrust||
You can see the visual go behind him
But I'm already dealing damage to notice if the numbers are from deflect
Ugh, I know!
You could always test it for yourself! 
Just dodge his attacks and deflect them
See if it does damage
Oh and make sure to not dash into him
Since the dash does do damage itself
Blargh
I could try for you?
Dude the new aspect has some dummy backswing
how do you farm for darkness? Equip the weapon with darkness bonus and just go Heat 0? I need like 3k+ darkness for ||Nyx upgrade|| 😦
Yup
I mean...you can if you really want to. I probably can?
Poseidon would be more likely to give that stuff
And always check Charon wells for tinge of Erberus
ah, forgot about those
I'll go test out your concern Piorda 
nice reoccuring gag I noticed
one of the random shades lists his cause of death was "beetle"
||In one of the random deaths on a victory, Zagreus is killed by a beetle||
I'm bored af anyways
I wonder if anyone has done a Hades Mythbusters 
I
I think I just defeated the Rat ||King|| without taking any damage
has someone compiled every Bond sticker?
does anyone else have the bug where they can never give hades even a single nectar? ive cleared the game over 10 times and still cannot give him even the first one.
What do the themes do in the house contractor shop, I can't tell the difference
Sooo, 1 million copies sold. Well done, Hades! Here's to 1 million more!
Hey. I have a question. I play on switch and is there something wrong with reroll mechanic. I have 2 reroll items and I don't have option to change next reward in the room
does support fire works with the crystal beam?
imagine being beated by || your own dad ||
@daring niche only as much as the initial fire
huh
dont worry about it ull make it next time
Dude, Redacted really hurts. Until you beat em once, then it's somehow a breeze every other time.
That also carries over to the other phases. Every part!
I did it 
Ayyy
finally. 26th attempt.
@coarse sierra what kind of room?
Does anyone know what the house contractor themes does
I can't notice a difference
the Extreme Measures 4 tho
Pact of punishment will make it spicy
@steel flicker ill show you in a minute
What UI?
?
Have hudra to beat
@daring niche ||Hades fight|| is spoilers here
it is
yes
huh
@halcyon obsidian Boon menus, victory screen
Does anyone happen to have the picture of the old avatar of Ares from the very beginning before the chaos update (probably update before). I can't remember what he looked like and google is no help
Maybe I got a bad one I didn't notice the difference 😕
it was a work in progress portrait
I like that Ares is not angry as usually portrayed
place a text in between these || @daring niche
two from one side and two from the other
it's a stick
it's near a + on the keyboard
to the right
you get it with shift+\
@fleet zephyr I'm about to get every sticker
(it's not called a stick)
Also @cinder lichen it doesn't seem to work on Asterius
On my (rather old) keyboard the symbol looks like : but with much taller dots iirc
But I might juts timing it badly
Its paired with backslash still though
@steel flicker https://imgur.com/a/Lyqk1YB See. I have rolls but I can't alter the reward
About redacted, i think ||You not fighting Cerberus is more of a spoiler than the Hades fight||
Are you sure you have the right one
@coarse sierra well that looks like a bug
Authority and not persuasion
Where should I report it?
Press F10 in the game
hey guys i have finally killed hades,what should i do now?
I have switch version LUL
Oh
#h1-tech-support (be sure to specify you're playing the switch version)
@coarse sierra Are you sure you're not using the mirror talent that rerolls the boon choices instead of rooms though?
how do i give skully nectar. prompt isnt showing up
if not then afaik you should be able to always reroll coin rooms
so it is a bug probably
@steel flicker I tried with both boons and not boons rooms. None of them are working
Also one of those rolls is from key room
So it should work either way
can you press the minus sign and take a photo of your switch screen for me please? @coarse sierra
I just wanna confirm something
How do you guys employ moderators ?
I haven't been in official Game servers so it's interesting
But I couldn't alter boons either
When I find one or well I can give another screen
so that allows you to re-roll the boon itself, not the room reward
Wait, Volty, just Asterius, or does it not actually reflect melee damage?
@cinder lichen Can confirm it doesn't reflect the damage
or a pom/well of charon/purging pool
Boo
Fated Authority (the purple die) allows you to reroll room rewards
Give me a minute, I'll find well or boon and we can see if it works
@fading gazelle it does with some attacks, ||father spear and asterius swipe can be deflected 100%||
Their melee attacks do get deflected but don't return the damage
I just checked it
Yeah but it does stop you from taking it
Yeah I knew that
It's a longer invincibility frame
Okay it works @granite ether
My bad
I was playing early access and must've go with the purple one
And I thought that's how it work
all good, glad to know it's not a bug
Does Poison count as a trap ?
if only
damn, okay
But those huge blades that fall from the ceiling those would count right?
ok
afaik ||green poison from styx|| can't damage enemies so it wouldn't make much of a difference if poison was a trap
I have deflected it back to a ||satyr|| once and it got poisoned
if you deflect it from ||saytrs it can||
yes
oh
also I don't want ||40 damage ticks from poison thankyou when using heightened security||
Poison is already really high damage to you if you dont cure it fast
||Heightened security also explicitly calls out asphodel magma||
||name is jeff||
Magma isnt a trap it says magma kill instead
Also not reduced by the athena boon, presumably
I wish all asphodel magma rooms were ||with purple tint like hydra room on EM2||
that would be a much more distinct look. Don't remember magma of that color in any media.
Luncheon kingdom in odyssey has pink lava does that count
hey you should put that as feedback in #hades-feedback
cuz I think that sounds pretty neat @steel flicker
i feel like asphodel is the hardest area to visually read whats happening 
I find Elysium hard because so many things are light blue/cyan/green
But that's just mostly because I'm color blind
Ouch that does sound like it would be hard to deal with
Hopefully a kind of colorblind mode gets added (if there isn't one already)
I do hope so 
omg i love this game
its as if Super Giant just made this game specifically for me
i've been waiting a rogue like game like to come out since ive heard of what a rogue like was
Posiedon or artemis?
ahem
Fair
ive just done two 48 hour play thrus of this game twice in a row

She is best girl after all
Arte all the way
Good
@granite ether I don't think they'll do any more significant changes like this to the game after 1.0
Like they did enough visual tweaks in 1.0 with particles flying all around, a ton of shaders and light shenanigans for it to feel complete. It's hard to expect them to go further than that.
I mean, it's still worth posting there
Oh no
Artemis and Athena just gave me an extra 20% critical chance when i deflect
but i have delfect on attack, special, and dash
we don't know what supergiant has planned after their well deserved break
Carnage time
Gladly
They even did something to the portraits where they somehow look cleaner than before 1.0.
Run them through
oof i wasted my artemis call bc funny bone hydra summoned his pals
He has been slain
we don't know what supergiant has planned after their well deserved break
@granite ether sure hope it's not anything related to hades at this point
Good 
Magma isnt a trap it says magma kill instead
Also not reduced by the athena boon, presumably
magma is most definitely a trap, as its damage is increased by trap +% effects and is affected by sure footing
specifically, sure footing lets you walk on magma for a little while before you start taking damage
Isn't that just normal?
That you won't take damage by walking on magma instantly?
Or does sure footing extend that time?
yes to all
Oh no artemis W H Y
she hit theseus instead of asterius
theseus has summoned zeus and i haven't killed asterius
send help please
i lost the rest of death defiances
guess its time to pull out the good ol lucky tooth
What is the best aspect for stygian blade?
Having trouble with || hades || I got to attack and somehow get hit with || boiling || something yet there was no animation or wave animation
I like the 4th aspect but I havent tried the others to get a good idea of how good they are
Aphrodite boons are the worst. Weak is not that good. They should probably buff her boons next patch.
Her boon give the highest damage bonus
Oh boy
Which ones?
Aphro is undoubtedly one of the best olympians in the game
All of them
She gives the highest damage bonus out of the gods
The ones for Attack and special
Weak isn't the main appeal of Aphro boons
And max charge call is a lot of damage
Also can be used to interrupt attacks from bosses
Hm, guess i didn't pay much attention to the damage boost sections. Will try hers next.
When Theseus is doing his ||god call or whatever|| and you use Aphro call, how does that play out?
poof
o sick
He still gets the call effect if that's what you mean, I think
God i hate rats
armored rats are the worst
they really are and im having to deal with them rn
Sounds like you just hate Styx
You're not wrong
styx isn't that bad of a place with the right setup
Styx is actually one of my fav areas because of the abundance of gold pots
but sometimes the poison can just be unavoidable and the damn armored large rats pack a punch
i do like those gold pots tho your right about that
Ima level with you
I'm mostly fine with big rats tbh
They're kinda easy
Rats are easy to deal with but are tanky as hell
And if they're armored they spit out so much poison pools
Should i invest in poseidon or nemesis aspect for stygian blade?
Its all fun and games having +400% trap damage until you walk into the ||hades boss fight and get one shot by his phase 2 traps||
Wait redacted spawns traps?
Yes
Yes they do count as traps
The ||pots||
Oh the pots
Thought you meant the fire skull things
i learnt that the hard way as i had a god sword run and got insta k.o.ed when i ran out of death defiances
Is there no 1 shot protection in Hades when you're at full hp?
Dont think so nic
I broke one of the ||hades pots|| thinking, oh i guess im fine but then got k.o.ed
You can die instantly
Oof, rough
also tthey don't insta kill they do 150 damage if you have +400% trap damage
bruh i had like 88 max health that run due to using the cursed sword from hammer
80%?
Is it bad that I assumed acorn was bad bc I didnt think about how it would be at max level
No
How many hits is it at max level anyway
Yes
what does acrorn do again?
Negate 5 hits from the boss
Negates first 5 boss damage
oh
Blocks the first n hits from boss
here is the problem
yeah that could be very good
multi hit attacks
oof
can instantly use all 5
happened to me yesterday
Theseus did EM3 and bam
it went
alright im bout to go say hi to redacted with only 1 death defiance left, wish me luck ladies and gentlemen
acorn?
nope
Depends on ||skull rng||
If he spawns a bunch you cant dodge all the ||shockwaves||
i chose the lucky tooth bc otherwise i would have no death defiances because artemis betrayed me in the thesius and astrius fight
You mean skill rng 
I use stubborn but I think it might be time to switch to regular defiances
Hey man, I spit facts
That fight can be rng if it wants to be
The only rng that bothers me is how frequently he disappears
oh yeah
true
ruins my speedruns
its very fun when you activate a call and redacted just dips or goes invulnerable
I actually agree
The enemies are a big distraction
very
2nd phase just does a lot of dmg
my favorite aspect is the antithesis of thiat
if you calm down and just dodge his moves 2nd phase is easier
||Excal is braindead and super fun||
bruh i just started the fight and redacted dipped
Depends on how you're playing
||If he spawns like 5 skulls and you're in a bad spot, you're taking minumum 40 damage||
Gotta be in the right place right time
Yeah he dips a lot
It bothers me that he starts with that
He's all like ||Come face me" and then he's just "Okay bye"||
pog im starting phase 2 with artemis call
DELETE HIM
FROM THE GAME
Ima level my demeter keepsake
I feel like artemis demeter could be really good on fists
hes been deleted
2nd phase in about a minute damn
Nice
man did not get to play the game
My Artemis call always deals no damage cause I my dumb ass always fires it when the boss is immune
Did you pb?
idk
Lets find out
Can confirm, i did not pb
kek
This game is fun
The voice acting is great
I agree wholeheartedly
WHAT IS THIS
?
I HAVE NO IDEA
that happens to me if the next boon had a story element to it
Im not gonna lie tho, demeter + artemis is a good duo if your using the demeter cast
Anyone else have long stretches without seeing a god. I have had 10 games in a row where I have not seen athena once
Nah bruh think about it this way
Anything + Artemis is good if you're casting
No for regular fists
thing
think*
si
FRICK
Cant type rn
Ok so if you have aspect of demeter
which is a multihit special
And you can get artemis
Good damage and crits
So if you get demeter on basic attack, the enemies are chilled and you can charge your cutter for free
and they cant do anything
Bruh how many runs i gotta do b4 i can ||fix these damn family issues||
Lots of runs actually
It took me about ||25 in game hours||
damn tried to talk to dusa and she just immediately said nah and disappears
Should i take a heart, money, or reroll?
Money
i already rerolled for a pom
kek
Hello guys
I sold a duo boon for 440
I didn't get any money
Wth happened?
Oh wait
I have chaos boon
FRICK
MY DUO BOON I LOST IT FOR 0 MUNI
yeah, that's a mistake you only make once
Ooooooof rip
oof
probably hot fixes/tech fixes
yeah, supergiant are working to fix any and all (that get reported anyways) bugs/crashes etc since 1.0 launched
"im free to do as i may" oxymoron?
Just came here to say this is an incredible game. One of the best I've ever played. Not sure if this is the right channel for that.
no you're right
its a 10/10 game
It could be 11/10
if we had more fishing content
Ahem
only way i see this game being any better is if u could fight the olympians
I honestly thought we were gonna have to fight zeus
Would that be a second game?!
Hades battles into Olympics
That just becomes God of War
Nah hades 2 will be the fishing minigame but it's fleshed out as a full game 
Hades 2 could be against Typhon or the Titans
yes, should be a rogue-lite fishing game, with some combat in between
No just a fishing game, zag takes a vacation with posiedon
Fighting fishes now?
The "cool" uncle
I actually would like to see Zag and dinoysis on vacation
That guy has some funny tone
hades 2 is just going full into dating sim
Zagreus touring the mortal world with various gods would be a fun series
if they do that they have to make aphrodite look like this https://i.redd.it/i5e2a99wh9p51.jpg
Made it to the final boss. Got wrecked.
Lets you reroll the thing inside the ball of a door, changing what the next room reward will be
Er wait
No that's the wrong thing
Not that's Fated Authority
its story progression
What do Administrative Privilege do?
the one for 2 gems?
Yes
story progression yes
Is there any condition there too?
Like. A key room can only roll into other "resource" type rooms
And God rooms to other God rooms
Or does anything roll to anything?
and it lets you look at run history finally
Epic
Ik shops can't be rerolled not sure what else
I think saving diamond is better than buying music,theres a bunch of upgrades that use diamonds
Uhhh
you need diamonds to unlock more important stuff later on
Like almost everything late-game
music is the last thing
Probs hidden aspects
||Bosses drop gems, gems give obol, darkness gives max hp, a few others||
Anyway I'll get the Privilege
Can we still progress side stories like Orpheus after we beat the game?
yes
Cool
LOL
Edit hades in there and make t say losing
Heh. I think “winning” is better on par with Hades’ sarcastic remarks
Yeah I guess winning works too
Guys which is better
The mirror upgrade for epic boons or its ||legend/duo|| alternative
I use the ||Epic boons|| one
I also use that one, but the alternative looks pretty good too
I've been using the legend/duo one for finishing prophecies
@jade crescent did you notice a difference?
I use the legend/duo when I want a specific build, which is most runs lol
Epic boons make for a better early game, but getting more legends & duos sounds like it would be good
I've been getting at least one every run
Hm okay
how much % does the legendary max out at
a recent run I got 3 duos 👀
it's so expensive 😢
that perk maxed says 10%
Epic one maxes at 20%
but I assume that's on top of the base chance, which I don't know
I got a duo once and it took me the farthest I had been up to that point. Aint seen another duo since.
Note that you can get heroic rank stuff too, but I'm not sure that chances of that
I've seen it with the passive that ups rarity of boons, but I can't recall if I've seen heroic rank boons otherwise
I believe for heroic you need a 4+ epic then swap the boon with another
or upgrade with demeter boon or eurydice
Heroics don't spawn normally outside of upgrading/exchanging
(hidden inside you)
is that the game telling me if i git gud enough i dont have to upgrade those thing?
What does the Fated Authority mirror upgrade do? Does it give me uses by default when I start a run?
Fated authority has limited charges per run and let's you reroll the icon in door orbs
gold laurel doors only reroll to other gold laurels, and same with blue laurels
Shops can't be rerolled
Begs the question of boon rarity vs gold laurel chance.
i was wondering
for Elite rooms
i notice you get 200 gold, 2 upgrades with pom of powers
when its a boon
does it increase the rarity?
i.e gurantee rare or above?
yes
im guessing centaur heart gives 50 hp too right?
tho i've actually never gotten centaur heart with elite
haven't done hypno's yet, but if its locked it implies there is
might be tied to another character close to him, sometimes doing certain things with contracters will trigger it to open too
Sometimes i don't know if I'm playing to farm or to beat the game
@thick ledge yes, heart is 50
When i decide to farm I always get my favorite buffs and i can't resist
@merry moat in a roguelike they're two and the same
Yeah, resource runs always turn into escapes.
I like that you can actively do both in this game. In Gungeon there's not really grinding since most of the big unlocks revolve around finishing the game multiple times.
the "final boss" of a game that never ends is when you put the controller down for the last time
That's the first rogue like i ever played i think
Unless I count some Nitrome flashgames
@still sand In a world of strife...
God i miss flash games
wait, can you even get boons in elite rooms?
In the 628.7 hours I've played I've never seen that
Yes
not counting trials of the gods, that is
Because it sounds like miniboss chambers in the final area are what are being talked about here, not elite chambers
I am not talking about the mini boss chambers in the final area.
Although those have increased rarity as well
Hi I found out you could switch skills from purple to green in the mirror, and then after death my game crashed(nintendo switch) Cant load the save file. it just crashes, should i start a new save file and wait for a patch?
They are aware of that bug and a patch is in the works @tepid kelp
okay! having a blast with the game not gone past the hydra but almost unlocked all the mirror skills just wanna keep on playing. died alot on the spikes and first boss in the begining
Glad you’re enjoying it! For future reference, it seems that bug happens when you change mirror skills and don’t put any darkness into them.
ye did some reddit searching, its a bummer owell
What’s the bug?
I’ve spent a key on the mirror but immediately put it all into different buffs
Why do the 4th aspects of weapons take forever to get
corruption of save data when you dont spend point on mirror? game crashes on death and then when you boot up again it crashes again
i want to get them so i can see what they're all about ||but goddamn achilles will not talk||
what do you do with the boss heart the first boss drops?
do you mean titans blood?
yes¨¨
@smoky wharf if you’re consistently escaping, it probably won’t happen until you’ve seen the credits. Plot dialogue has priority.
for that you need to unlock everyone weapon then soon after skelly will talk to you about it
oh that explains it, thanks flyinx
perhaps i should just head out and die a few runs and see if ||achilles will finally talk||
You can certainly try that if you’re eager.
i mean im also eager to reach true ending as i have been escaping consistently, but i'd like to at least start to be able to get the 4th aspects to appear
Just play the game and talk to everyone you can
If you see a special room, make sure to take it too to progress their story
I didn’t get the first hidden aspect until after the credits.
guys, is there a reason why fated persuation doesnt work on daedalus?
Same, Flyinx
yes devs didn't want players to have complete control over their entire build and felt it would be a negative to player experience in that people would always re roll for the same things in their builds @queen marsh
If a boon increase attack damage does it also include stuff like doom dmg on attack?
No
thanks @narrow hemlock
The mechanics for doom and hangover etc are determined by their boons
So for a doom build dmg buffs are useless
@queen marsh just went looking for it, here's the explanation https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/3969311271670813573/#c2789369598118446756
doom is a separate source of damage, so an attack damage increase would not affect doom
only global damage increases and damage increase specific to doom would apply
if I could reroll hammers I would always have serrated point
which is optimal as far as builds go, but eventually would get boring
yeah i understand the devs point, although i disagree with it...i feel like if you're at the point in the game where you already farmed darkness enough to have fated persuation at a high level you already experienced the game enough to make a conscious decision
plus makes speed running it a lot harder
seeded speedruns are a thing tho
yeah i guess
that's a funny sentiment bc I've seen hades speed runners do some wacky things :P
plus makes speed running it a lot harder
definitely not
the whole point is that you can get ridiculous stuff in your build and just change your plan a little so you can still effectively Go Fast™️
my point is more about going like "i want to try this next" and sometimes you're simply denied xD
I don’t run FP because I feel like I start chasing the same boons over and over.
you can make supposedly "bad" boons work super well
What's an example of a bad boon?
freezing vortex
Backstab cast duo?
parting shot is fine
Freezing Vortex + any other blade Rift boons is powerful xD
I struggle to make the backstab cast feel good to use
Also give it the "explode on 10 chill" for extra effect
Aphro cast is also pretty lackluster
is there an option to make hades not pausing when alt tab?
The backstab cast is tricky, because it requires more of a cohesive build. I recommend Artemis or Poseidon cast for it, probably
@agile sedge yes, just a moment
i guess its always about preference but i really dislike every single aphrodite boon
except maybe the call
They do so much damage tho
Aphro is crazy good
Aphro/Demeter scaling with pressure points is like a guaranteed escape.
Aphrodite has really good boons besides her cast
Her cast is great with Poseidon/Hera
The ratios are pretty up there
i did have an idea of using aphrodite/athena/demeter as a build core with hera. using cold embrace with parting shot and placing it behind an enemy's back
Actually just Hera
@agile sedge you want to set the launch option /RequireFocusToUpdate=false. Instructions on setting launch options are in #h1-tech-fixes if you need
I wouldn’t say great with hera
I have Yarn of Ariadne, Refreshing Nectar, Exclusive Access, and I'm about to open a boon from skull room. Can someone tell me what to expect?
More like it makes up for the lackluster range
@real cape an epic boon
an epic boon
Epic is the max you can go unless it's an exchange
Maybe a duo/legendary if you meet the reqs
with extra chance of getting a legendary/duo if you have the prereqs
That is disappointing
Also yarn and nectar don't stack
So if you get one, stay away from the other?
No, they still stack for a number of uses
Ah, that's a relief
you'd have 4 uses of rarity bonus
How often do you guys take support fire? I take it whenever I see it, I think it's super good
On a fast weapon, always.
i take it on very fast weapons, not much else
Got a duo, no legendary
depends on the build, like most boons
Almost always
only when I have a fast weapon like the fists. otherwise it isn't very good
But I probably didn't qualify, (can't remember what I need for poseidon)
@wild lark if you just won, #h1-victory-boasting
Otherwise, you could share an imgur link in another appropriate channel
ok appreciate it. first win so i joined the discord to find out more about the game
w/o too many spoilers. i'll look there. thanks!
20 runs. ffs i still suck at this game its gonna be another 10 before i do it again haha
Hahaha, don't stress it 
Are there mods for hades yet
Are there mods for hades yet
yes
yo who knows how to get the last aspect for the twin fists?
i just thought they hadn't implemented it yet.
where would I find them
@ocean kayak the second pinned message in the spoilers channel: https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/521035166471159828/725092980829978655
How does Curse of Longing work?
my (noob) friend bugged the game somehow and got 600 nectar 👀
how many do you need to max all the characters?
I have a question too: once you used the tooth of resurrection once, you can take out that accessory between zones, put another one and still receive the bonus it gives?
Yes
yeah, you can get the buff from any keepsake other than that
Each keepsake is separate
Elysium is so hard with the shield
Yep
you can survive redacted lasers and flamewheels and boss spins easily
Add deflect boons and you're set
plus you get toooooons of damage with the 4th aspect
Witches in aspodel get melted with deflect and dash strikes lol
With shield. So good
I think spear is probably second easiest.
At least for me
Shield and spear are easiest to clear
I have 2 questions
- How the heck does anyone get past the final area without tearing their hair out
- Why do the small chariots sound like cats?
stunlock the hell out of the satyrs
I try
1st - tearing hair out isn't worth the discomfort for most people, no matter how hard the area is
But then I'm getting sniped by laser rocks
2nd - why not?
Cause it's very confusing and distracting as I own cats
the laser rocks can mostly just be nuked right off the bat
i dont tink that area 4 is that bad
Hold up, So I can just equip the tooth once and change it on the next chamber and I'll still get to use its revive?
nope
So it still has to proc then?
if you've got the tooth, you have a bonus revive, but if you swap the item, then that bonus is gone
and the last question. Which procs first, the tooth or the death's defiance
death's defiance
word
tooth is always last iirc
I thought the tooth's defiance does?
even if you add other defiances ala Anthena/Chaos, as far as I know, that tooth is always last
the laser rocks can mostly just be nuked right off the bat
@jade crescent they absolutely can't, in my experience [I've had 3 of them in a room before, and couldn't hit more than 1 at a time...]
they're pretty squishy? you can just keep slamming them into a wall
unless they are shielded, but I think it's only the big purple one
I don't know how much damage you're doing by zone 4, but if you have 3 of them at once, you can't take them all down fast enough to avoid being damaged by at least 2 of them.
nothing feels quite so good as getting two legendaries one after the other
(Poison is more annoying than them, though, definitely)
@wind wedge the trick for them, especially in zone 4, is to use the terrain to your advantage--focus down one of them while blocking the others with walls
I’m starting to feel getting the right duos feels stronger than legendaries
just get both 
seriously, having more Duos/Legendaries than you can show on screen at a single time feels like Olympus in Hades :P
Also i asked this before, does anyone know of any those Shade guys art or some kind? They’re adorable and would make a great pfp
lol I just hit redacted for 6K in 1 shot
@low sleet pardon the ping, but do you know? (about art of shades)
Well if there are, feel free to ping or dm me. Thanks a bunch!
Re: Shade art, I'd like to know too! Specifically anything around the Wretched Broker.
(I'm a Switch player, so it's a little harder for me to get them outside of screenshots)
@rough token Heyo! What'd you all want to know about the shades?
They were wondering about getting art of the shades, I'm guessing outside of just screenshots from in-game
Are there more weapons in this game? Because I got all 6 bloods from the first boss
there are 6 weapons, yes
you'll || see something else though, once you have all 6 ||
Ah, yeah! I'd like to eventually post up more of the weapons and enemy characters I got to work on online~
there is a way to get significantly more than 6 blood though
yup
I do see the new thing
|| beat the final boss ||, Cloud
but they require a lot of blood
i know what it is, i'm just saying it exists without spoilers
yup


